Latest / Best of Business / Stephen Hoadley: international relations expert on whether Iran will close the Strait of Hormuz
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- 0:18Speaker 2: After America's attack on Iran over the weekend, the big
- 0:21Speaker 2: question now is whether Iran will close the Strait of Homos.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Now twenty percent of the words world's oil is shipped
- 0:26Speaker 2: through this narrow straight it runs between the coasts of
- 0:28Speaker 2: Iran and Orman. Stephen Hoadley is a retired professor of
- 0:32Speaker 2: international relations and with us right now. Hey, Stephen, good evening, Heather, Stephen,
- 0:37Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. This is not going to happen,
- 0:39Speaker 2: is it now?
- 0:40Speaker 3: Well, it may happen. It's all option, and even just
- 0:43Speaker 3: the threat of closing it would be enough to send
- 0:47Speaker 3: insurance rates higher to prevent other ships from entering. Apparently,
- 0:52Speaker 3: the number of ships in the Gulf has declined from
- 0:56Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty to seven hundred and continuing to fall.
- 1:00Speaker 3: There is a lot of ships, A lot of companies
- 1:02Speaker 3: are simply not putting their ships into danger because they
- 1:06Speaker 3: anticipate the possibility of the closure of the strait.
- 1:10Speaker 2: How would they actually close it.
- 1:13Speaker 3: With military action? They put mines in the water. The
- 1:17Speaker 3: channels are only six kilometers wide, three kilometers one way
- 1:21Speaker 3: and three kilometers coming the other way. They've got fast
- 1:25Speaker 3: patrol boats armed with rough propelled grenades. They've got short
- 1:30Speaker 3: range artillery, they've short range missiles. There a variety of
- 1:35Speaker 3: things that could harass. Remember, an oil tanker is very vulnerable.
- 1:40Speaker 3: They're not armored, they're not armed. They could not withstand
- 1:44Speaker 3: even a small piece of artillery and they might burst
- 1:47Speaker 3: into flames. So those ships, skippers are going to stand back,
- 1:52Speaker 3: They're going to anchor out, they're going to stay away
- 1:54Speaker 3: from harm's way. That will be enough to send up
- 1:58Speaker 3: the price of oil.
- 2:00Speaker 2: I see that Marco Rubio has gone on Fox today
- 2:03Speaker 2: and called on China to intervene here and have a
- 2:05Speaker 2: chat to Iran and stop this from happening. Would that work?
- 2:08Speaker 3: Use society that are well, China's oil does come out
- 2:13Speaker 3: of the Strait from Iran. It's smuggled. Iran is under
- 2:17Speaker 3: strict sanction from the West, but of course they ignore
- 2:20Speaker 3: those sanctions. China does too, and gets oil from Russia
- 2:24Speaker 3: in the same way. But yeah, it would be interesting
- 2:28Speaker 3: to strange bedfellows the United States and China ganging up
- 2:34Speaker 3: on Iran to say don't close the straits or moose
- 2:37Speaker 3: the Chinese. I think do have a strong point. I
- 2:40Speaker 3: think they may prevail, and it could be that the
- 2:43Speaker 3: Iranians will be very selective in their targeting. If they do,
- 2:47Speaker 3: in fact target any ships, they can identify them one
- 2:51Speaker 3: by one. They can target them if they're related to
- 2:53Speaker 3: the United States or to Israel, and let the Chinese
- 2:57Speaker 3: ships get a free pass through the straits.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Stephen, You've been doing this for a very long time,
- 3:02Speaker 2: so I want you to take on it. Did the Americans
- 3:04Speaker 2: make a mistake bombing those sites?
- 3:07Speaker 3: Well, look, we're divided, The Prime minister is divided, the
- 3:11Speaker 3: foreign ministers divided. Everyone is trying to be very kind
- 3:14Speaker 3: to Donald Trump. We don't want nuclear weapons, so we
- 3:17Speaker 3: approved in that respect. We don't want to invade other
- 3:20Speaker 3: people's countries, so we disapproved in that respect. I think
- 3:24Speaker 3: the world, I think New Zealanders are pretty divided on
- 3:27Speaker 3: the whole question. So it's not an easy call. If
- 3:31Speaker 3: it turns to custard the way the Iraq invasion did
- 3:34Speaker 3: in two thousand and three and the Afghan invasion did,
- 3:38Speaker 3: we will look back and say it was a terrible mistake. If, however,
- 3:42Speaker 3: there is a regime change and the government, like Syrian
- 3:45Speaker 3: government next door, suddenly becomes pro West and moderate will say, well,
- 3:51Speaker 3: it wasn't a mistake. It was jolly good to put
- 3:54Speaker 3: down the Iranians and relieve this dark shadow that's wafted
- 4:00Speaker 3: over the Middle East since nineteen seventy nine, and you know,
- 4:05Speaker 3: give Israel a break.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Stephen, thank you very much on everything. I really appreciate
- 4:09Speaker 2: your expertise that Stephen Hoadley, retired Professor.
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