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From Shutouts to Records: November is Here - The OHL in 60 Podcast · The Armchair GM's Sports Network

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to the Armchair GM Sports Network.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome into another edition of the OHL in 60 podcast
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  Speaker 3: I'm your host, Colin Ward, joined for this week by
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  Speaker 3: searching the Armchair GM Sports Network. Joel, this is going
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  Speaker 3: to be a blast tonight, buddy. Thanks for being the
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  Speaker 3: guest co-host. Long time in the making. Let's have a
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  Speaker 3: blast tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited to be here, yeah. It's going to be
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  Speaker 2: one fun show and a lot to talk about when
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  Speaker 2: you sent in the topics for tonight. It's been a
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  Speaker 2: wild week in the OHL and across the hockey world,
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  Speaker 2: so I guess it's a good time to have me on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what? It's going to be a fun one.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot that happened in the OHL. There's a
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  Speaker 3: lot that happened at the junior landscape. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 3: been a lot that's happened in the junior landscape for
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  Speaker 3: what the last two seasons have been like two years
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  Speaker 3: in one with all the stuff that goes on behind
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  Speaker 3: the scenes. And we'll get right to it. The big fish.
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  Speaker 3: Nikita Klepov getting sent back from the Anaheim Ducks. He
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  Speaker 3: has zero points in four games with the Ducks this season.
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  Speaker 3: Big return for Saginaw, Joel. What do you think? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's huge.
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  Speaker 2: I think the rich get richer. Steve Majilkin, Brady Wasslin.
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  Speaker 2: Now you've got Klepov. Watch out from an offensive standpoint
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  Speaker 2: with that hockey club. And like you mentioned, Klepov, the
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  Speaker 2: limited action he got in the NHL, well-limited. it's going
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  Speaker 2: to pay dividends. Being in those rooms, being in those practices,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to come back to Saginaw with a new perspective.
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  Speaker 2: And as dominant as he was last year, he's going
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  Speaker 2: to be even more this year.
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  Speaker 3: And Joel, we'll touch on it right away. You spent
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  Speaker 3: time with the Belleville Senators, now with the Trenton Golden Hawks.
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  Speaker 3: And you know all about the professional landscape. And every
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  Speaker 3: scout that I talk to around the arena in Brantford
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  Speaker 3: or wherever the Bulldogs are, for me personally, it feels
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  Speaker 3: like whenever I have a conversation with somebody, it's the
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  Speaker 3: difference between pros and junior is huge. You got guys
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  Speaker 3: playing for keeps. You spent time with Belleville. And I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the AHL, for example, you see some of the new
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  Speaker 3: rule there with these guys playing eligible for the AHL.
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  Speaker 3: You got guys playing for keeps. They're playing check to
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  Speaker 3: check just to survive. And it's not like here in
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  Speaker 3: the OHL where, hey, it's for the future. It's for
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  Speaker 3: the development side of things. So for that point, I
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  Speaker 3: know there's been a few people that said to me, well,
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  Speaker 3: why can't he just go to the AHL? It's hard
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  Speaker 3: to do. Why do you think this is the best
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  Speaker 3: for his development coming back to the OHL?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's going to allow him to play true
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  Speaker 2: top six minutes in every situation. It's going to let
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  Speaker 2: him get his confidence up. It's going to allow him
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  Speaker 2: to score at a clip that he's expected to score at.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard when you come down and, you know, you're
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  Speaker 2: always the guy that's called on to, you know, jump
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  Speaker 2: over the boards for the power play.
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  Speaker 3: You need a goal.
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  Speaker 2: Last minute, you're out there. In the AHL, as an
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  Speaker 2: 18-year-old kid, that's not the reality of it most nights.
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  Speaker 2: And I think to let him go back to Saginaw,
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  Speaker 2: play in a system he's comfortable in, let him get
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  Speaker 2: that confidence with the offensive side of the game, I
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  Speaker 2: think it pays dividends down the road. And I was
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  Speaker 2: so fortunate to see Drake Bathurst and Josh Norris play
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  Speaker 2: for Troy Mann in Belleville. And those guys are special
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  Speaker 2: hockey players. but they weren't 18 years old when they
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  Speaker 2: jumped into the American hockey league. And it's a different game.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like you mentioned, the amount of pressure, the
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  Speaker 2: amount of space and time that gets taken away at, at,
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  Speaker 2: at that, at that level is just.
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  Speaker 4: It's just impressive to see how tightly contested those hockey
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  Speaker 4: games are not to say in the OHL, they aren't,
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  Speaker 4: but a guy like Klepov can, you can have that
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  Speaker 4: little bit extra time, that little bit of extra, okay,
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  Speaker 4: make that dipsy do play.
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  Speaker 2: And in the long run, it's not a bad thing
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  Speaker 2: to take some time with a player so highly sought
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  Speaker 2: after and let him really develop his game.
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  Speaker 3: And Joel, we saw this with Beckett Seneca. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the Ducks and that organization should know all about that, right? Like,
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  Speaker 3: they should know all about, like, with Beckett's development and
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  Speaker 3: how much of a factor, I mean, that postseason run,
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  Speaker 3: that series against Edmonton, how good Beckett Seneca was.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: we know, we know all about these guys, these kids
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  Speaker 3: coming in and it's not a bad thing. And it'll
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  Speaker 3: be interesting to see with, uh, Nikita, how he comes back,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the maturity level. Sometimes you see guys come
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  Speaker 3: back and they take penalties, you know, they're at the
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  Speaker 3: pro level and all of a sudden they're back in
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  Speaker 3: the small pond, right? And they're the big fish and
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  Speaker 3: you expect things to go a little easier for you
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  Speaker 3: and it doesn't go. It'll be interesting to see what
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  Speaker 3: it ha what happens when he comes back. It's expected
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  Speaker 3: that he will play this weekend for the spirit. Um,
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  Speaker 3: And like I said, you hope that they have that
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  Speaker 3: experience factor with Beckett Seneca going back to Oshawa and
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  Speaker 3: how much value that proved for him. And another thing is, too,
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  Speaker 3: the AHL at 18 years old is a tough league.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you look at Brady Martin with his development
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  Speaker 3: path right now with Nashville's farm team, right? It's kind
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  Speaker 3: of like controlled schedule. He's not playing regularly. It's just
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  Speaker 3: going to be a controlled schedule. And if you're not, like,
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  Speaker 3: the way, what really bugs me is, too, and you
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  Speaker 3: get these comments around the arena about guys in the AHL,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, they're in the AHL, and people kind
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  Speaker 3: of look down on it, but you know what's interesting
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  Speaker 3: to me is when you get these quote-unquote superstars, and
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, okay, we're going to send them
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  Speaker 3: down to the AHL, they're going to play on the
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  Speaker 3: third or fourth line, Joel, and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: they got to kill penalties. Well, they haven't killed a
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  Speaker 3: penalty in three years since Minor Midget, or U16 year, right, like,
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  Speaker 3: some guys will some guys will but like you know
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  Speaker 3: like it's not their game and you can only have
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  Speaker 3: so many top six players and i think for i
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  Speaker 3: think for saginaw for anaheim this is a huge move
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  Speaker 3: uh i i mean you look at that top line
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  Speaker 3: in saginaw right you're gonna have waslin who has 25
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  Speaker 3: points in 16 games you're gonna have dima zhilkin who
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  Speaker 3: i think is going to be the top player taken
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  Speaker 3: out of the ohl this year's nhl draft 25 points
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  Speaker 3: in 16 games for those two and then you add
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  Speaker 3: the last year's top score into the mix I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's got to be fun. They also they have secondary scoring, too, Joel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. And I think that's the thing. And
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  Speaker 2: it's the old adage, right? It's the superstar effect. It
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  Speaker 2: just makes everyone so much better, so much deeper. And
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  Speaker 2: like you mentioned with Dimas Jokin, he's got to be
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  Speaker 2: the happiest guy in the world as he continues his
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  Speaker 2: draft year here. Like you said, he's going to be,
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  Speaker 2: if not the first, one of the top three guys
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  Speaker 2: taken out of the OHL this year. And he just
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  Speaker 2: got his running mate back. Brady Wasslin, that move is
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  Speaker 2: looking like a steal at this point. And now you
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  Speaker 2: add in Klepov to that. So it's, at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day, they're much better layered now too. Like
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  Speaker 2: with the depth. You look, Jacob Cloutier, Levi Harper on
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  Speaker 2: the back end. They've got players that are putting up
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  Speaker 2: points at nearly or at over a point a game,
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  Speaker 2: and now you add Klepov, who last year ran away
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of the offensive stats in the league.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they're sitting pretty sagging on it, that's
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  Speaker 3: for sure. Other news this week in the OHL, Chris Millett,
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  Speaker 3: the head coach of the Erie Otters, and it's hard
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  Speaker 3: to believe it's been almost three seasons already he's been
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  Speaker 3: the head coach of the Erie Otters, which is mind-blowing,
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  Speaker 3: because I remember when he was hired, it felt like
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  Speaker 3: it was last season. um signed a two-year extension with
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  Speaker 3: the otters um stability and the coaching staff is huge
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  Speaker 3: in the ohl especially this day and age there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot more opportunities coming with the ncaa factor um pro
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  Speaker 3: gigs we saw a few coaches that have earned the
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  Speaker 3: right to move up to the ahl this past this
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  Speaker 3: past season chris mullett two-year extension for the erie otters
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  Speaker 3: to get that stability huge for dave brown and staff
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  Speaker 3: as a general manager But also for the players. You
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  Speaker 3: get guys that come into your system. You draft guys
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  Speaker 3: and they're 16 years old. By the time they're 18,
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  Speaker 3: they have a new system to learn. So those younger
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  Speaker 3: players on the area... in kind of a transition year
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  Speaker 3: for the Otters, that's huge to have some stability there
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  Speaker 3: behind the bench.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly right. And at the end of the day, it's
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  Speaker 2: about building that culture. And it's about keeping a guy
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  Speaker 2: that has a ton of major junior hockey experience with Kelowna.
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  Speaker 2: You look at some of the guys he coached there,
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  Speaker 2: Colton Dock, Andrew Christelle, Now in Erie, he's done a
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  Speaker 2: nice job of building back that program. And if you're
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  Speaker 2: Dave Brown, that's the things you got to look at is, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you can't keep flipping over coaches every year. You got
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  Speaker 2: to have the stability. You got to have that culture setter,
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  Speaker 2: that trend setter, the guy that goes into those meetings.
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  Speaker 2: And like you mentioned, you can't have a new system
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  Speaker 2: every one, two years. There's got to be a standard set.
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  Speaker 2: And I think they did that with the extension of
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  Speaker 2: Chris Monette.
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  Speaker 3: 100%. I mean, you get the guy, right? Like, there's
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  Speaker 3: nothing worse. And we know all about this. When you
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  Speaker 3: have a coaching change and it happens all the time,
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  Speaker 3: when a coaching change happens all the time, it just
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  Speaker 3: feels like that trickle-down effect. And we see it around
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  Speaker 3: the league every year. And I'll probably rant about it
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  Speaker 3: a few times, but it's frustrating, right, for a player
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  Speaker 3: every year when you come into a new system. Big
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  Speaker 3: NHL debut, Joel. It's a guy that you've gotten to
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  Speaker 3: see with Kingston before. Martin Kromiak. Saturday evening against Buffalo Sabres.
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  Speaker 3: Makes his NHL debut for the LA Kings.
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  Speaker 2: Incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Incredible for Martin Kromiak to make his opportunity after 200.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm just waiting for it to load. 200 and
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  Speaker 3: here we go. 76 regular season NHL games. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: credit when credit is due. Pay your dues.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations to Martin Kromiak.
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  Speaker 3: He was on those loaded Kingston teams, Joel, and I
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  Speaker 3: know you got to see him close when you spent
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  Speaker 3: time with the Niagara Ice Dogs. They were loaded, and
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't believe it's been 276 games in
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  Speaker 3: the AHL, Joel. It felt like it was last year
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  Speaker 3: you were watching them in Niagara. Well, and that's what
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  Speaker 3: you talked about with Klepov, right? You talked about the AHL.
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  Speaker 2: Here's a guy that's been in there, played his dues,
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  Speaker 2: and that's who you're going up. That's the guy you
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  Speaker 2: got to take top six minutes away from. That's the
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  Speaker 2: guy in practice, right? Those types of players, and Like
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned, he was outstanding in the Ontario Hockey League.
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  Speaker 2: Played with Shane Wright, Lucas Edmonds, Paul Ludwinski. Xavier Wisdom
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  Speaker 2: was on those teams and went through the COVID stuff,
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  Speaker 2: the cancellations, and had to go back to Slovakia, play
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  Speaker 2: in his native country there. But just he's a feel-good story. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he is. He's the kind of thing that, hey, the
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  Speaker 2: stick to it in this. Not, hey, I'm going to.
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  Speaker 2: He stayed with the Ontario Reign, stayed with the LA
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  Speaker 2: Kings through all this, was a fifth-round pick, and naturally gifted,
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  Speaker 2: and having a hell of a season, six goals in
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  Speaker 2: nine games to start in the American Hockey League. So,
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  Speaker 2: like you mentioned, it's just nice to see that hard
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  Speaker 2: work pay off for a guy that I remember us
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  Speaker 2: watching him in the press box in Niagara and saying, wow,
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  Speaker 2: this guy's got all the talent in the world and
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  Speaker 2: a natural goal scorer, and played with Shane Wright, so
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  Speaker 2: all the stuff that you want to see and eventually
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  Speaker 2: get to the NHL level, which we thought he could. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: He played 17-23 on Saturday evening in his NHL debut,
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  Speaker 3: recorded one shot on net in the contest. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: congratulations to Martin again. And I've got to ask you, Joel,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know they're bench-bossing Kingston better than anybody
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  Speaker 3: in the Ontario Hockey League and Troy Mann. I know
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  Speaker 3: you guys have a good relationship. What would Troy Mann
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  Speaker 3: do with having Shane Wright with Paul Ludwinski, Martin Kromiak,
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  Speaker 3: Jade Wisdom. What would, what would Troy Mann do with
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  Speaker 3: those guys? I mean, you see it this year with
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  Speaker 3: the scoring, we'll touch on Kingston in a few minutes,
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  Speaker 3: but the spark notes, the preview version for when we
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  Speaker 3: talk about Kingston, how much fun would Troy Mann have
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  Speaker 3: playing with coaching those guys?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he'd have a lot of fun. It would be
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  Speaker 2: a matchup nightmare if he had Shane Wright. Um, he
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  Speaker 2: would use them in all creative ways. Um, it, As
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's so dialed in, he's so detailed, he's
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  Speaker 2: so structured oriented, and he would win. He always finds
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  Speaker 2: a way to get in the playoffs. He's never had
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  Speaker 2: a losing record in all his years coaching AHL, ECHL,
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  Speaker 2: so OHL as well. So I think he's a hockey,
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  Speaker 2: he lives in Breeze hockey. He thinks about what he
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  Speaker 2: can do with players. He thinks about what's always the
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  Speaker 2: best to help the player develop and I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: saw it firsthand with Bathurst and Norris, Nick Paul, some
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  Speaker 2: of the guys he had in Belleville, some of the
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  Speaker 2: goalies he had as well are in the NHL now,
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  Speaker 2: Philip Gustafson. So I think he's proven that now. And
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  Speaker 2: as you see, we'll talk about with Kingston, 8-2 in October.
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  Speaker 2: So he's really finding his groove now with Kingston, which
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  Speaker 2: is really nice to see.
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  Speaker 3: And they should get that.
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  Speaker 2: Stability, right?
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  Speaker 3: Him and Corey Cooper get that extension. That's nice to
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  Speaker 3: see in Kingston. There were some trades that happened this
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  Speaker 3: week in the OHL. And we'll touch on it. We
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  Speaker 3: were talking about Erie. We were talking about Kingston. Tyler Cooper.
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  Speaker 3: And obviously Kingston is the next deal with Brody Cook.
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  Speaker 3: But Tyler Cooper to the Brampton Steelheads from the Erie
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  Speaker 3: Otters for a 2028 Kitchener second round pick. In a
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  Speaker 3: 2029 Barry fifth round pick, the forward Tyler Cooper, 16
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  Speaker 3: years old. He's got three points in 12 games this
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  Speaker 3: season with the Otters. No points in his debut weekend
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  Speaker 3: with the Branson Steelheads in those two games. But man,
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  Speaker 3: oh man, I love the deal for James Richmond and staff.
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  Speaker 3: You go out and you get 15 picks for Tanner Adams.
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  Speaker 3: And I've been saying this on the podcast since that
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  Speaker 3: deal happened, Joel. You've got to acquire young 2010-2009 born
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  Speaker 3: players and build a core for the future with those picks.
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  Speaker 3: If you're James Richman, you have an excellent opportunity. 15
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  Speaker 3: draft picks that you receive plus the extra two compensations,
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  Speaker 3: so 17 picks. If you're Brampton, you keep acquiring these 16-year-olds,
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  Speaker 3: these 17-year-olds, and you build for the next couple seasons
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  Speaker 3: here in a younger OHL, by the way, so maybe
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  Speaker 3: next season is your pop year. You've got to love
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  Speaker 3: this deal for Branton.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, and I think it's a potential play like
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned, Colin. You look at his stats with the
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  Speaker 2: Chicago Reapers in his 15-U year, 124 points in 74 games.
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  Speaker 2: It was the second-round pick by Erie. If you're James Richmond, right,
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  Speaker 2: you have all this extra draft capital. Get a guy
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  Speaker 2: that you've known, that you've seen compete in the OHL.
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  Speaker 2: Right next year, when you're ready to go, He's going
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  Speaker 2: to be in a younger league. He's going to be
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  Speaker 2: able to know the rigors of what's going on, to
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  Speaker 2: play for you and get a year under James Richmond's system.
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  Speaker 2: And I think this is not the first time you're
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  Speaker 2: going to see this this year from Brampton where they
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  Speaker 2: go out and they kind of identify younger guys that
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  Speaker 2: aren't getting the playing time or the minutes in other
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  Speaker 2: clubs and make those potential plays. And I really like it.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what? For Erie, you get the extra
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  Speaker 3: draft picks. you have a strong month here we'll touch
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  Speaker 3: on this too how important november is because teams know
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  Speaker 3: what they are by december 1st because you're going to
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  Speaker 3: know what direction you go in we'll touch on this
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  Speaker 3: after we get through these trades but for eerie you
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  Speaker 3: have an opportunity if you have a successful month you
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: can acquire a player i hope they don't i hope
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: they acquire more draft picks and build for the future
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: i think you got to know when to hold them
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: when to fold them it's a tough It's a tough
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Western Conference this year. Obviously, with Saginaw, you see Flint start.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: You see Sioux start. Obviously, Guelph at the Men's Cup.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: And what London is, London's got to get some stability there,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: more consistency in their game. But they had a decent
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: weekend this weekend for London. So, for Erie, I mean,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Matt Bass, you're looking at seventh in the conference, right? So,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I think you kind of know what you are. But
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: for Brampton, like you say, I mean, to get this
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: player to take the opportunity is huge for Brampton. I mean...
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: You might miss, you might miss, but at least you're
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: going down swinging if you're Brampton. And you got to
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: think about the appeal, right? Of maybe getting a NCAA commitment, right?
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: For the future.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Like you have so many opportunities, not even just to
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: spend the picks, right? It's not even that we can
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: spend the picks. You can sign free agents. I know
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Brampton has had a rough go with the NCAA market,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: but if you create a core and you create a
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: vision and you, it's an easy selling future feature. I mean,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: we see it all the time around the league. Facilities, facilities,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: facilities are huge. They have a pro facility there in Brampton.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: They do. With the ECHL being there, they have a
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: pro facility. You've got to take the opportunity. You've got
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: to swing the bat to hit the ball. And I
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: think for Brampton, I love this deal, getting Tyler Cooper
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: a forward, and it gives you every opportunity to build
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: a core. And that's what I've been saying since the trade.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think if you look from the Erie standpoint,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: they sent out some picks this offseason with Igorov and
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Liam Beamish.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Jack Torr.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: So you get some picks back. I mean, as the
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: season goes on, Colin Kennedy's going to eat more and
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: more ice time up the middle. And I think it's
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: a good hockey trade. And I think those are the
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: type of thing where you put the player first, right?
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: And you say, hey, this is the situation. And, I mean,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: he's going to a GM and coach in James Richmond
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: that obviously believes in him to trade out a second
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: round pick.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Absolutely and we speak about hockey trades and opportunity for
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: players in this next trade joel it's an opportunity for
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: a player to get an opportunity i mean we thought
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: the opportunity was going to come in kingston with the
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: trade from one of the nights a few months ago
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: obviously they make the kolesarowski trade numbers game brody cook
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: going to the Owen Sound Attack for a 2027 fifth-round
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: pick from the Kings and Frontenacs. He gets an opportunity
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: now to be a regular. Night one, he's on a
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: line with Pierce Bowie. So you know that's going to
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: be a line driving. You know that's going to be
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: an offensive line. That's not going to be a line
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: that's going to be defending a whole lot when you're
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: on a line with Pierce Bowie, one of the best players,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: the captain of the Owen Sound Attack. You know you're
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: getting the opportunity, and like you mentioned, you love an
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: opportunity trade. Brody Cook, he's an Owen Sound Attack.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: And I think that's just Corey Cooper being honest with
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the player, right? Cole Zyrowski comes over. That's a trade
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: that Kingston has to make.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Reagan's on the wall.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been excellent playing for Troy Mann. And, you know,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I thought Brody Cook was good in Kingston too. I
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: thought he played well since coming over from the London Knights.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: But a numbers game, and you want to give the
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: player an opportunity. It's almost like a little bit of
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: an extension of the other trade.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's, I think it's a really good
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: hockey trade for both clubs. And, um, at the end
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: of the day, it's what's doing best by the player.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: And I thought Corey Cooper really did that in that deal.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Five points and 11 games to the front next this
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: year for Brody Cook. Um, one game, obviously with the attack,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: no points in the game, University of Massachusetts, um, commit.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: So you got, you got some experience there for Owens town.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I think for a team that I don't know what
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: direction they're going in. Experience never hurts anything. Um, at
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: that matter, when you get a guy that has experience.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: So for them, we'll see what happens in Owen Sound.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: But the next trade, Joel, is a guy that you
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: will know very well covering the Trenton Golden Hawks. The
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Brantford Bulldogs make another trade. It's defenseman Caden Rawling from
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: the Windsor Spitfires for a fourth-round pick and a seventh-round
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: pick to Windsor. Rawling going back to Brantford. It's not
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: a full-time... trade for this season this is a futures
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: trade for the branford bulldogs um who will be on
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: their ap list for the season for the remainder of
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: this season he spent time with collingwood he bogart uh
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: bulldog full-timer now congratulations to heath got the opportunity he
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: spent some time with caden he's in 09 the bulldogs
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: want to boost their 09 core he's a defensive defenseman
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: six foot 198 right-handed shot joel caden rolling a future
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: branford bulldog.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Who knows the OJHL better than the Heimans?
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Perkins had a good year.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They scaled that league. They know the ins and
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: outs of that league. Obviously, Collingwood off to another excellent
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: start to the season, 20-2. And Caden Rawling, a player
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: that's a young player but has been a part of that.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And I think when you're looking at the upside for Brantford,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: that's what this is about. It's a guy that's playing
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: for a very good Junior A franchise. He's going to
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: be brought up in a system, in a structure that
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: the Heimans are watching, that they know he's going to
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: be developed the right way. And I think it's an
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: excellent trade. You can never have enough bodies around. You
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: can never have enough guys that have potential upside around,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: especially in the evolving hockey world where you never know
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: who's going to commit, who's going to do this, who's
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: going to do that. Injuries happen as well. So having
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: strong APs is a natural step. You look at it
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: with Semensov in the Titans. and it's something we talked
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: about and we did an article on the site about
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: it it's kind of the Hyman's template a little bit
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: now is to hey let's look at this junior A
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: level let's look at hey who's around who's got potential
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: upside that we can get into this get into Gary
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Roberts get into these different avenues and help them develop
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and I think it's smart they know that league they
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: know the players and I give them kudos because at
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, we talk about it all
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the time. It's about giving players opportunities, about helping them
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: to succeed. It's about allowing them to succeed. And I
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: really like it. I really like the move because we've
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: seen it. Ryan Chamberlain was a guy who was an
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: AP last year. Brantford's done an amazing job of collecting
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: these young and guys that are, are good high-end junior
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: A players and having them around. So, And I think
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: it's good for the players overall. 100%.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, sixth-round pick in 2025, 113th overall by the
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Windsor Spitfires was rolling. And, you know, it'll be interesting
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: because Collingwood has really built something up. And, Joel, you
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: know the OJ better than me. You see last year
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Max and Korovic in Collingwood. Heath Bogart goes to Collingwood.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: The Bulldogs got a thing for Collingwood. They got something there.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: And what is that program? I mean, how much is
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: that program– It always feels like they're in contention. I
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: know you get to see them a little bit when
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: they play Trenton. What's that program been like? It feels
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: like they're starting to become a factory here for OHL
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: talent and not just NCAA.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they are a championship caliber team year in and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: year out in Collingwood. They're built to win. They play
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: a very, very structured game. I mean, they've played 22
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: games this year. They've let in 42 goals. they've scored
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: 128 um it's it's solid yeah um they're an excellent
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: they have an excellent blueprint for what they want to
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: do how they want to um build out their teams
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: who they want to bring in who they want to
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: recruit and um they're a team that that should have
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: eyes on them they should have guys moving up to
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the ohl and um they're a very impressive team they're
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: They're kind of the gold standard of the OJHL, and
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: they've been a team that has really put the blueprint
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: of what the OJHL should be. They've copied that and
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: made it what it should be. Absolutely.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's cool to see these teams. Like, how
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: important the GO, the OJ is. Now, honestly, you could
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: say the P as well in Junior C. How important
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: it is for development. I mean, Mason Ray going down
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: to the P. a couple days ago, right, with that
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: announcement of Harmer Owens' own attack at Niagara Ice Dog
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: and Brantford Bulldog. So you can see their relationships now
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: in the landscape, how much it's changed, right? The avenues
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: are endless nowadays in the OHL. This weekend, my pet
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: peeve game's happened, Joel. Now, you got to make sure
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I don't rant. You got to make sure I don't rant.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: And maybe some fans like it. Some fans probably say,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: shut up, Colin. But I got a mute button. OHL
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: versus the Q Games. the outer league games i hate
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: it i i cannot stand it we talked about this
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: before about you know all these different games last week
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: brandon and i with mike farwell were talking about the
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: memorial cup changes and i don't like that either maybe
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: i'm just getting pissy in my old age but i
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: i cannot stand these qohl games the last couple seasons
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: um valedora north bay Obviously, 4-2, Valadora beats North Bay
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: on Sunday. And then we ran a 4-3 over the
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Sudbury Wolves on Sunday. I only like these games if
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: every team, if it's balanced with other teams. Last year,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I thought the Ottawa 67 stole points from the worst
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: team in the queue in Gatineau. I understand why the
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: game's there. It's their closest matchup. I understand that. I
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: don't like it, but I understand it. I wish they'd
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: play the Kingston Frontenacs a couple more times instead. Play
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: them 10 times, for all I care. Let's have a
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: double rivalry weekend. But these Q games, Joel, they bug me.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Thoughts on them?
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: What do we got to do? What do we have
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: to do to fix the OHL right now on the
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: OHL at 60 podcast, Joel? I think there's kind of
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: two schools of thought, right? There's people that are going
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: to love it, and then there's people that are going
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: to hate it. Yep. And I hate it.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: And I can see both. I can see why as
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: a traditionalist, which you are, you don't like the cross-league games.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I can see why from a marketing standpoint, from the
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: new age, kind of the digital age, why it makes sense.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: And it's kind of cool too from a scouting standpoint
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: to kind of see them against other guys and this
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: and that. But I mean, I do think from your standpoint,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: from the integrity of the standings, I think that's kind
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: of where, where you come from a little bit.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Too, right? You look back at the end of the season,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: you see a team you're tied with in the standings
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: and you got, and I know, I think I can
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: speak for fans on this one because like you're tied
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: with a team late in the year and they played
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: against Gatineau twice last season and no offense to Gatineau
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: this season, but last year they were one of the
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: worst teams in the queue. You play them, there's, there's
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: four points. you look back at it, well, one team
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: had to play, I don't know, an extra game against
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Oshawa or Kingston, right? And, you know, you're playing Gatineau.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: So that's why I look at it and I have
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: a hard time with that at the seeding.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I think you almost, if you want to do it
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: in maybe a fair way to keep, so to speak,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: integrity to the standings, if that's the the viewpoint is
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: you do it in, in the preseason.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: And that's how you do it.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Have your Victoria trips in BC. Yeah. I love that
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: for team bonding, man. I'd love that. If anyone wants
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: to take us, I'll go on the trip.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: And I think that's, I think that's kind of how
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: you do it or you do, kind of like they
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: do in the nhl with the prospect tournaments and you say.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Hey bingo hub hub tournaments yeah.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: We're going to colonna colonna's hosting it this year branford's
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: there niagara's there and two teams from the whr there
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: pen picked in and colonna yeah or something like that
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: and you do that and it creates some some more
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: energy some more cool social media stuff you can do
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: some more videos and you do it in the preseason
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: it's light-hearted um It gives.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: You a valuable preseason game to watch.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also then you're not, if you're going by
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: geographical location, you don't have Brantford playing Niagara twice in
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the preseason and then a bunch in the regular season
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: or whatever it may be, right? So it saves kind
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: of some of that, which might be nice as well.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: But there's all different schools of thoughts, and I do
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: get why the league does it, and I do understand that. So,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think you're always going to have people
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: disagree about everything.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: You can say it. You know what? I'm going to
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: be pissy about it, and there's no beating around that bush.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: It's like the Broncos in the first three quarters of
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: a football game before the fourth quarter. It's the end
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: of the world, and all of a sudden the fourth
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: quarter happens, and it's all good.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: You know what? I think it's just cross-collaboration, right? It's
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: just the three leagues coming together, and you know what?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: It's another... it's another event where it's another thing that
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: they can do together and keep it under the umbrella.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, people like it.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I think the kids really enjoy it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: And I think that's.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: What kind of matters at the end of the day is,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: you know what, if.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: If it's enjoyable and people and the teams and, and
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: the leagues are getting something out of it, then, then
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: I think it's a win-win.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: You know, what's interesting to me, Joel, and this is
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: an idea I get, And it's not likely to happen
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: because how do you manage this, the cost, the time
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: and the season? It would be so cool to have
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: an all-OHL team, an all-Q team, an all-dub team, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: have a little round-robin all-star tournament. That would be so
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: cool to see. It would be hard to do because
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: when is the schedule? It would be easy to say, okay,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: let's take that five days after the Christmas break. Well,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: five days after the Christmas break– World Juniors are on.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: So the best players aren't going to be in the
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: game because of the World Juniors. It would just be
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: cool to have a matchup like that, right? We see
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: the CHL, National Team Development Program game, and that's cool
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: to watch coming up next month in December. We'll touch
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: on that in a little bit. But those games are
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: cool to watch. It would be so neat if somehow,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: obviously it's not likely going to happen because it's just
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: hard with the cost, the timing of the season, the schedule.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: But that would be really cool to see.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be. And then we kind of got
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: it a little bit in the sense of we got the,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the top, the top teams back in the subway series
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: days against team Russia.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, those are the best. And we got to get
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: the subway series back. We need that back. And you
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: know what? Hey, with the world junior announcement, we won't
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: touch on it, Joel. We won't touch on it, but
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: for the players sake, I will say this, not politically. Um,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: we're a hockey podcast. Um, And I feel like that they,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: for the players to have that opportunity to play in
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: the world juniors for me to honestly, to consume the
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: world juniors, man, we're talking about it all the time, Joel,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: every tournament we're saying, Oh, I wish Russia was here.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I wish Russia was here. Every time we text every day.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: And every time they're in the world juniors, we're talking
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: in our groups about where are they, you know, like,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: it would be cool to see, but like, The opportunity,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: and you mentioned the Subway Series, maybe with that returning,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: it can slowly be an avenue. But, man, I miss that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: And 100% I miss that.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: And just from a sports perspective, they're an outstanding hockey country.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: The amount of players they produce.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Athletes.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Like, it's incredible, right? And it's, you know, we were
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: talking about it the other day, and it's Mishkov played.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Two games in the World Juniors. Demi Dov didn't play
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: in the World Juniors. So from that standpoint, it would
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: have been nice to see those young players play and
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: those guys that would have been superstars of the tournament.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: And I'm glad that for the athletes and the kids
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: that they're going to be able to play again and
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: showcase what they worked on their whole lives and succeeded at. So,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: and like we said, those Subway Series games, there was
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: a lot on the line. There was a lot of pride.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: There was A month before the World Juniors?
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: If you look back on those rosters, the amount of
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: NHL stars that played in those games for both sides.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: For Team Russia, you're playing to make the World Junior team.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: It's essentially a World Junior training camp for Team Russia.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: You're playing to make it. And for them, it's almost
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: like our U-17s, right? We had that U-17. I don't
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: like the timing of the U-17 being this week. Shout
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: out to BC who can't make it tonight because he's
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: covering that and that'll be a great experience for him
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: covering Hockey Canada and the U-17s. But I would like
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: to see the opportunity to see that Russian team again
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: in the Subway Series because those were beauties. And you're
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: essentially seeing these guys come over. Honestly, they can play
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: in the KHL. They can play in the Russian Junior Leagues.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden they're playing North America again.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: against junior age kids and not men. And I mean,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: it was great hockey to watch and it wasn't, it didn't,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: it never felt like an exhibition game. And I honestly,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: it would be, it would be fascinating to see if
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: that comes back one day. If I could put that
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: on the bucket list for one thing to cover for
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: one thing to come back now and hopefully everything gets
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: sorted out here.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I hope that's the thing. I hope that's the thing. Um,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: You know, hey, they can make trade deals, not to
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: get politically, but they can make trade deals, so it
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: would be cool to see them make a– it would
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: be really cool to see the Subway Series come back.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: That would be a blast. You imagine year one, year one,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: you put them in Kitchener and put them in London.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Just pack Barnes. Just pack the Barnes. Just go to
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: the biggest markets. Go to the junior race. Go to
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: the Meccas. You know, sell out the Saddle Dome in Calgary.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: um those would be a blast i mean you go
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: to the queue i mean i remember i remember the
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: mem cup and she went again when they had the
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: horns and stuff going like put them in the market
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: put them in halifax or moncton like those uh big
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: arenas like put them in the markets and let's let's
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: let's sell it out i mean let's grow the game
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: and i i missed those days those were the best
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: um the uh subway series uh for sure um kingston
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: front next joel Kingston Frontenac's, and we got to touch
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: on it, October, they love their Thanksgiving, they love their Halloween,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: and November's off to a 1-0 start for them as well,
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: with their 5-0 win over the Brantford Bulldogs on Sunday afternoon,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: where the Bulldogs just simply did not show up for
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: the game, but 8-2, 8-2 October, a franchise best for
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: the Kingston Frontenac's, To have a good start's huge. Obviously,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: you know Troy Mann well. I'm sure that's a big emphasis,
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: to have a good start. I mean, you've covered a
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: couple games this season in Kingston already, Joel. They're flying.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: They are, and they look really good. And they're playing
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: to the structure, which they need to. And they're playing
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: to what Troy Mann wants them to do. And I
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: think the thing that you kind of look at, too,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: is Royden Smith has been excellent in that. And he's
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: been kind of a revelation. What a story. You look
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: at Gavin Betts, high pick, has been out. Minchuk drafted
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: to the Las Vegas Knights, and it's Royden Smith who
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: has kind of carried the load and been outstanding in that. Offensively,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: they've gotten production throughout the lineup. Alex Kuhlman's really taken
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: a big step.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: What a year to have one, too.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's a guy that at the end of
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: last year, Troy Mann was, him and Nolan Schneider, he
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: was really starting to trust as 16-year-olds and starting to
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: pour the minutes a little bit more. And they made
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: it into the playoffs and it was a tougher second
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: half for them. But they developed and he let those
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: guys play through it and he let those guys develop
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: and now they're paying the dividends of it. Misiak's been
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: a great pickup from Erie. He's really found his stride
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: and the three Slovaks have been have been a nice trio.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: So they've built this team the right way. You talked
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: about the stability with Corey Cooper, Troy Mangan, the extensions
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: and letting them do it, letting them have some time,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: letting them put their stamp on the hockey club. I
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: think it's important that you, you, you let those guys
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: work on it, work through some things, you know, it
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: can't be like, Hey, one year, two year. And you gotta,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: you gotta be in the conference finals. You gotta be
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: doing this. Let these guys, Corey Cooper's been all, around
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: a long time. Troy man's been an excellent American hockey
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: league coach. Look at his resume. Look at the guys
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: he's made into NHL so far, NHL stars. So I
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: think Kington Kingston's got the blueprint now and they're letting
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: those guys work, work through it. And, um, They're going
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: to pay dividends for it if they can continue on
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: this trajectory. And I think it's been, for the fans
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: in Kingston, it's what they've needed. It's what they've wanted.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: And I think it's outstanding. 100%.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, another thing that's been good. You tell me
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: if this is good, Joel. Michael Newlove, the goaltender for
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: the Windsor Spitfires. Back to back to back shutouts. Is
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: that good? You tell me. I mean, incredible weekend. Incredible week.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: For Michael Newlove, just 25 minutes and 43 seconds away
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: from breaking the franchise record for the Windsor Spitfires. The
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: best goalie pads in the league. You went from the
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: red blob to the airstrip to where you can land
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: your helicopter. It's, I mean, the Newlove language as a
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Josh Sweetland, OHL PR guy posted on Twitter. I mean, 100%.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's got to be feeling good right now
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: going to the rink.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Well, he's, he is, a success story of the under
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: 18 priority selection. First overall pick out of Halton Hurricanes.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it's perfection. Good. I guess so. Um, he's, yeah, he's,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: he's been a revelation in that. And, you know, it's
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: amazing to see the composure too, as, as, as it continues, like,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: as you get closer and closer to that record and,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: you know, just to stay so calm, so composed. And, um,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: it's amazing to watch guys chase history and we've seen
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: it throughout sports and in our lives lifetime. And each
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: time it's just, it's just amazing to watch and you
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: root so hard for the guys. And yeah, it's, it's,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: it's a special story and he's a special success story
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: of that under 18 priority selection.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: And it gets harder and harder because as this shutout
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: streak becomes more public and other teams start to see
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: it and you know and that's what makes it more
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: impressive i mean back-to-back shutouts okay the third all right
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: like teams know what we're at now we're throwing everything
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: even the kitchen sink at you we're throwing the whole
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: front yard at you in the backyard at you um
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: we're coming but uh it's been impressive i mean it
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: has been impressive for michael new love um currently the
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: sixth highest streak um long or longest streak 183 minutes
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: and 41 seconds The shutout streak has been 25-43 from
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: breaking the Spitz record. He's 54-13 from breaking an OHL
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: regular season record and 79-25 from an OHL record, period. Incredible.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Adam Monroe, the current record holder, 263, Erie Honors goaltender.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: What a name. Forgot about that. 2001, Joel. JP Anderson's
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: on this list. I mean, that guy. Talk about an
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: OHL veteran. I mean, that guy was in the league forever, J.P.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Anderson.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: What a name. Another name on here that you know well, Joel.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Mark Byzantine, third on the list, 237-53. Regular season record,
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: that is, for Mark. and Jordan Bennington on the list
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: as well. And to round it out with Michael Newlove
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: is Michael DiPietro. So some big names on that list.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: You got some really good pros on that list. And
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: obviously Jordan Bennington, Michael DiPietro, two big names as well
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: to round out that list. So that's quite the company.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: And I mean, I think this is one too for Michael.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: He got the opportunity to develop and you mentioned the
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: U18 draft. And then last year, you know, he wasn't
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: forced into a role because Joey Costanzo and the veteran
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: team And you get to learn from Joey. And I
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: think that probably helped him a little bit as well.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: And it's about patience with the.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Goaltender, right? You're going to have down games. You're going
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: to have good games. Where do you keep the middle ground?
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: I think with him, with Michael, it's always been a
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: steady line. And watching his progress throughout the U18 year,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: like you mentioned in the draft, it's been impressive to watch.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: So that's incredible for Michael Newlove. Back-to-back-to-back shutouts for the
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Windsor Spitfires goalkeeper. Record watch, record watch. That should be
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: the free game. That should be the Friday free game.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: If that's on the line, but it is not. It
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: is Erie and Flint that we have to send BCAP
• 44:11
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• 44:15
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• 44:18
  Speaker 3: got to send them our thoughts on who's going to
• 44:21
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• 44:22
  Speaker 2: We'll get to that to round out the show this week.
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  Speaker 7: The Armchair GM Sports Network. Joel, but we still got.
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: A few more topics here.
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: OHL remix jerseys, Joel.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: And we talked about this This afternoon, before we recorded,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: the NHL, obviously, every year they have to come out
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: with the nice jerseys. They've got to make a couple pennies.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: How are they going to do it? Well, we'll release jerseys.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: And it's an easy thing to do. There were some duds.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: There were some sweet ones. My take is on the
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: jersey remix, and we'll get to this, Joel, what would
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: be the best. Our top two, we'll give top two
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: OHL jersey remix ideas. That would be kind of neat
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: to get through, but I always like the ones that
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: everyone on social media says are duds are the ones
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: I like. I like the simple hockey jerseys. And, you know,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: like I see people cutting up Edmontons. I love Edmontons
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: with the black. Like I said, in Hamilton, being with
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: the Bulldogs, I miss the stealth days. I love the stealth.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Our child jerseys are stealth, for goodness sake.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Like, we had fun with those.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Like, you know, like, I– I like the NHL's vision. Like,
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know. What do you think in the OHL?
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: It's likely not going to happen, but remix jerseys is
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: a pretty cool idea.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: I think they're, I think they're a great idea. I
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: think if you're looking for, for a fun kind of
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: third Jersey or, or to do something, I think, um,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I think Kingston kind of a little bit did it
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: right with the, the count Frontenac. And I think that
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I would say would be a great remix.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Kitchener with, uh, the pistol Pete, I guess. I don't
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: know the character.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Um, that would be a nice one.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: I want Windsor to go with the border. Use the
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Gordie Howe with the new Gordie Howe. Like, it's like
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: as a wings fan, how they went with the, like,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: it's essentially a normal red wing Jersey. We just have
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: hockey town over top of it. I love it.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Like, I think it's cool, but a lot of people don't,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: but that's okay. Opinions are opinions, but I think it'd
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: be cool. Like, so like how the red wings at
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: hockey town, it'd be cool to have the Gordie Howe bridge, uh,
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Going across the Spitfires logo.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: With like Windsor across it. Like WSR or something like that.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Like the border crossing. Something like that. Play to the city.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Like a remix. Like that would be kind of cool.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Similar like what the Blue Jays did in their City
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Connect jersey. With the skyline in the back. That would
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: be sweet in Windsor. Peterborough too with the Pete's.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: With the lip locks. Yeah.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: That would be cool.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Trent River. Yeah. That would be nice. Oshawa could do
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: a ton with PM.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: And talking with... Talking with Jack Moore about that a
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: couple weeks ago, those black jerseys that Oshawa has, you
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: can be like the GM, you can be like for
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: the generals with the GM um partnership there you have
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: a lot of opportunities there in oshawa if they did
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: that um there's so many opportunities like i'd love to
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: see sudbury you know with the nickel yeah work the
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: nickel in there like i ottawa obviously the nation's capital
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: like there's some good ones I mean, like if Branton
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: wanted to go into the GTA a little bit, I mean,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: that could be a selling feature for some people in
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: the Toronto area. Toronto's not really a hockey city. It's
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: a Leafs city. But that would be kind of a
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: cool pitch to the fans, I think, that could kind of,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: you know, like grow the market a little bit. Like, oh, hey,
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: that's a cool design. And we know all about graphic design, Joel.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: It's huge to grow the game. You know, like you
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: see a cool graphic, all of a sudden, hey, there's
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: a follow. All of a sudden, hey, I might go
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: to a game. They got cool graphics. Nowadays, in this
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: day and age, that sells. So, something like that would
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: be neat, but it'd just be really cool. I mean,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Niagara Falls, like, with the ice dogs.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, into the Niagara.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: It'd be cool. A lot of good ideas, like Erie.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, with Pennsylvania, I essentially, I mean, for those
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: over 19 and 21, you gotta go yingling with the beer.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: But you gotta go with the yingling there, so... that
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: would be a good only 19 plus or 21 plus
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: so no one no one can wear the jersey fans
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: would love it though above 21 in the erie um
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: i know there's a lot of equipment managers around the
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: league they're listening to this right now saying yeah oh
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: yeah a lot of people in the league love the
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: erie trip for the yingling um but no it's just
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: cool You know what? It'd be neat for the Flint
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Saginaw Series to kind of play off it, too, for
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Rivalry Weekend. If you had special jerseys for Rivalry Weekend,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: that takes it up a notch. Yeah.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: I think, too, you can do so much with jerseys
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: to create that environment, that extra around the game. It's, yeah,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: how many times do you see it where you're saying, oh, hey,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: there's a special jersey tonight. And you're so excited to
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: see what the design is going to be or what
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: the auctions too with the jerseys and stuff like that.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: There's so much fan engagement. So it's definitely something that
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: the league has used well to market and the individual
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: teams as well. So I think it's– the league is
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: always looking for extra ways to promote and jerseys is
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: a great way to do that.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Absolutely it is. I love it. Hey, we've grown the
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: league tonight in this episode, without a doubt, with a
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: lot of things that we've discussed, Joel. It's been a blast.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Six 08 cellers named to the CHL, to Team CHL,
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: for the CHL NTVB game. That's the National Team Development Program.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: So six 08 cellers to the game, and it's kind
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: of your six big ones. Cooper McCaslin from the London Knights.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, that kid... We see this every year in London.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: If it's not Jackson Clover, it's Easton Cowan. If it's
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: not Easton Cowan, it's Denver Barkey. If it's not Denver Barkey,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: you know, it's Mitch Marner. Every year, Cooper McAslin comes up,
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: gets this opportunity to represent Team CHL.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: That's huge.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Jako Wysik from Guelph. Kind of the consensus number one
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: pick in the NHL draft coming out of the OHL
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: starting the season. Maybe we can touch on this when
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: we get to the players, Joel. But, you know, the
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: opportunity on a deep team in Guelph, this could be
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: a big stage for him to get that opportunity to
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: be a regular top six in this game in front
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: of all the scouts. This was Matthew Schaefer's pop game
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: in his draft year prior to the injury at the
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: World Juniors that unfortunately happened to Matthew, right? This was
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: his pop game showcase opportunity for him. So is it
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: the same for Yakko?
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Levi Harper, defenseman from the Saginaw Spirit. Brandon's top pick
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: going into the NHL drought. His defenseman of the year
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: pick for BC. Vilmer Salen Forsberg, the Viking. The best
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: name in the OHL. Vilmer Gustav Viking Salen Forsberg, the
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: goaltender at Brantford. He's the goaltender. He's been great. He's
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: getting hotter and hotter. The guy you've talked about, Joel
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Alex Kuhlman from the Kings and Frontenacs. Scoring a ton now.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: He's scoring a ton. And Ryerson Edgar. Other than Edgar
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Ice Dogs being that number one center for the The
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: Niagara Ice Dogs, good opportunity for him. What do you
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: think about these six names being the first to be
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: named to the team CHL for the game?
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I think, like you mentioned, right, it's kind of the
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: six you expected. You look at Ed Vilmore, he's a
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: big goalie. He's the kind of.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: The prototypical.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Style, the size that scouts want to see. Alex Kuhlman's
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: been excellent in Kingston. Like you mentioned, he's been a
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: driver in their 8-2 record in the month.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: I think it's a great opportunity for Yakov Lysik, too,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: especially after how good he was at the Hellenic Agretsky
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: to keep that momentum going.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: And he has a good stepping stone here in this game.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Then he goes on a good Memorial Cup run.
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: He's going to be looking up and scouts are going
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: to be like, hey, Yakov Lysik's a name that we've
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: seen in these high-pressure moments, these high-pressure games, continuously strive through.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: So, And then like you mentioned with Levi Harper, he's
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: a guy that Brandon's so high on, right?
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: And there's a.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Reason for that.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: So I definitely really agree with the six going. And
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: I think they are the six that we all kind
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: of expected would get the early nomination. Absolutely. I mean,
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: I love the game. I love the little series they do.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: I think that's cool. Last year with the overtime there
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: to win it, that's more dramatic. Hopefully it's getting here
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: for the program. And, you know, you can argue it.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: You can say, well, the program, if it's not a
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: strong year for them and the CHL has Matthew Schaefer,
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Porter Martone going at them, you know, it's a tough one.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: But on the flip side, the U.S. team has been
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: together for a full season, right? So there's kind of
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: back and forth. We'll get to the players of the month.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Players of the month this week, or this month of October.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: in the Ontario hockey league player of the month. We'll
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: start with Ryan Robrick of the Guelph storm, 22 points
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: in 13 games, Joel, 14 goals in 13 games, plus
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: 10 average, um, over a goal, a game, great opportunity.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: It's nice to see him go to Guelph, get that opportunity,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: be on a competitive team that, you know, it's going
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: to be competitive for a full season. You don't have
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: to worry about a 10 game losing streak after the
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Christmas break. Um, like there has been, um, I think
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: it's great for him and Ethan's out of the being
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Guelph and for Ryan Robrick player of the month in
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: the OHL. What a, what a month he's had.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Big time goal score 30 last year and 49 games
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: the year before that 41 and 64.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: And now, like you mentioned over a goal game. And
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: I think it's an excellent opportunity for him to, to
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: really showcase the type of player he is, the type
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: of player that.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: That everyone expected when he came out into the OHL
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: draft and, He was excellent in Niagara. The team just
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: couldn't get over that hump, right?
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: It happens. And I think, you know, you look at.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: The size, 6'3, upwards of 220, big kid. Chicago drafts
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: well out of the OHL, as you know, in Brantford.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: So they're scouting him a lot, and they're very high
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: on him, and I think this is a really big
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: stepping stone for him and taking on that leadership, taking
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: on the pressure of the Mem Cup. And he's been
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: nothing short of excellent with all that on his shoulders
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: and well-deserved. Obviously, the stats back up the eye test there. Absolutely.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Defensive of the Month, sticking with the Guelph Storm, Vlade.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Vlade Mandrzejewski. 20 points in 13 games, 4 goals, 16 assists,
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: plus 12 for the 5th round pick by the New
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: York Islanders this past draft. You want to talk about
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: a steal for the Islanders. The fact that Vladimir Drevetsky
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: was there in the 5th round. I mean, we already
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: know some of these guys went undrafted. The J.C. Lemus,
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Lane Gallagher. You know, there's a lot of good players
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: that went undrafted.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Brady Wasslin.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: But for Vladimir Drevetsky to go in the 5th round
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: in the training camp he had with the Islanders, Joel. Like,
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: player of the month, defenseman of the month. For the OHL,
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: what a first month for him coming back from Islanders camp.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Already signed, too, by the Islanders as a fifth rounder.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: He's a great player.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: You saw him all last year in Brantford, and he's
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: going to have another good World Juniors for Team Czechia.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: He's a guy that they went after early in the offseason, Guelph.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: They targeted him.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: To be one of their mainstays on the back end,
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: and it's no secret why they did that, and the
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: offense is coming. He's got 20 points in 13 games.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: He had 28 all of last year, so.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: He's really coming into his own, and like you mentioned,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: after that strong camp with the Islanders, it gave him
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: all the world of confidence, signing the contract, being known
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: that he was one of the guys they targeted right away,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: it's It's all great for his confidence and well-deserved honor
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: for Dreweski there.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: 100%. It's funny. We talked about NHL prospects, and now
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: we get to the beauty of the NCAA agreement with
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: the CHL. Goaltender of the month, Paolo Frasca, the Sudbury Wolves,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: 9-1 this month, 1.98 goals against Juul, 939 save percentage,
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: one shutout, 306 saves over the over the 10 starts
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: for him this month palo frasca goaltending the month of
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: the sudbury wolves it's the beauty of the agreement with
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: the ncaa right and i mean sudbury if they're going
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: to be a competitive team which i expect them to
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: be your goaltending god take you.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: There yeah and like you mentioned right playing in the
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: bch help putting up great numbers 9.39 save percentage with
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: the Victoria Grizzlies before he moves on to the Ontario Hockey.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: League, and he's got a 9.33 save percentage this year, Colin.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: He's 9-2. And hey, look at the NHL. Look at
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: the NHL thing where people are saying 8-9 is a
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: great save percentage now in the NHL.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You look at that subreddit team, J.C. Lemieux, but
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: then it's It's cash, and it's Tanner Adams, and I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: know he's been out to Adams, but they've got some
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: young hockey players on that team, and that backbone of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Frasca is so valuable to them. And it allows those
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: guys to have that, okay, we can make a mistake, and,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: you know, and.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Proveroff, Gonchar, they've got all the skill in the world.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: There's a reason they lead the Central Division.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: You can play free with those guys, right? When you
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: have a goaltender, you can play free and take chances.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: And it's, yeah, and it's, it's, it's been impressive, and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: he's a guy that, that played junior A, developed, and
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: came over, and it's like we talked about with the
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: beauty of, of Brantford with these APs, is.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Having those guys that you see that are playing tier,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: tier two junior A, and, and looking at them, and saying, hey,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: there is something here, and, and making sure that you
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: get the most out of these guys, and yeah, I'm
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: really happy to see, see him succeed in Sudbury, and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: and get his chance.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Zach Jovanovsky of the Gulf Storm was also considered for
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: Goal Tender of the Month this month for the OHL.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: He went 7-0 this month, Joel, 1.99 goals against, and
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: a 9.26 save percentage with two shutouts over seven appearances
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: for Zach Jovanovsky. What a competition this October was for
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: the Ontario Hockey League. Rookie of the Month, Bogdan Jakubzewski.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: I think I nailed that name, I hope. You know, hey, 17-year-old,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: 19 points in 15 games, 10 goals, 9 assists, plus 9.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Maybe we'll see him on the World Junior roster and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: see him there. Because what a month for him. Rookie
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: of the month, Bogdan Yakoshevsky of the Windsor Spitfires. Rookie
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: of the month in the OHL. Great opportunity in your
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: way from home, right? It's got to be tough.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely does. And you look at him, and
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: he's got 10 goals in 16 games. I mean, you
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: look at the closest competitor in rookie scoring, it's Aiden
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Kelly with 16 and 14.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: It's a good year for rookies in the Ontario hockey league, Colin.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: It's stacked. And it's Tyler Hind in Oshawa. You look
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: down the list, Trevor Daly Jr., Bogdan. Like, it's so
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: exciting to see these guys come in and succeed right away,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: put up the points. And, yeah, a well-deserved honor for him.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: with the stats he's putting up on a good Windsor team. Absolutely.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, you'll love to see it. Players of the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Week in the Ontario High. Here we get to Players
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: of the Week. That was your Players of the Month.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: Players of the Week. We'll start with Prospect of the
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: Week from the Caledonia Corvairs. We're off to a great
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: start in the GEO. Nolan Garrow of the Corvairs, a
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: Peterborough Peaks draft pick. He has four points in two games.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: I'll get to now the Rookie of the Week. Joel,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: a guy you know well. Royden Smith, goaltender of the
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: Kingston Frontenacs, 2-0,. 50 goals against, 977 save percentage, one shutout,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: 42 saves in two games, Joel. Goaltender, Rookie of the Week,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: Royden Smith of the Kingston Frontenacs. He's been outstanding.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: He's, for a guy that I think a lot of
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: people thought would be in Wellington, I mean, the Gavin
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Betts with the injury and all that, but.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: To have him show what he's shown early, he's put
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: himself on draft lists with his start.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: And it's been amazing. And to have that backbone, Minchuk, Smith,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: they have Betts too. They have great goaltending in Kingston.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: And it's really great to see him take that year
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: in Wellington last year and really come into his own
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: now in Kingston and fight for the net with two
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: very good goaltenders in there already.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: And you know what he's going to do? He's going
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: to move somebody out. You've got to think Kingston's going
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: to make a moving net with the way Royden's playing.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're not going to take the net away
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: from him, right? And if you're Troy Mann and staff,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: you've got to be loyal to the guys, to the
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: hot hand. And right now there's no doubt who the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: hot hand is in Kingston. Yeah, I totally agree with that.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: Bully of the week. And, I mean, it's tough for
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Royden Smith to win goaltender of the week because Michael
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Newlove of the Windsor Spitfires, 3-0, perfect save percentage. Perfect
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: goals against, three shutouts, 81 saves. No doubt, goaltender of
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: the week. This might be the easiest one for the
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: OHL and company for goaltender of the week for this week,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: for the first weekend of November.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Can't beat perfect. And if you look at Royden Smith,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: he came pretty darn close to being.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Almost at that level with a 977 save percentage. so
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: in your in your in your rookie yeah at least
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: he's a rookie because it's a hard snub yeah i
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: mean michael new love perfect i mean that's it's a
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: no doubt easy one this week i mean the goaltending
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: competition it's funny a national hockey league all we're hearing
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: is a good eight percentage is 8.9 8.8 the ohl
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: saying hey We don't have a goaltending problem. Do we
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: have a problem scoring goals? I don't think so. The
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: Ottawa 67 player of the week doesn't say it's a
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: hard time scoring goals because player of the week, Andre Rumel,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: three games played, six points, three goals, three assists, plus
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: two for the avalanche pick. Andre Rumel, Ottawa 67, OHL,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: player of the week this week. Yeah, and he's been
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: outstanding to start the season. And you can see Ottawa
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: starting to get going too.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Here a little bit um they're gonna play kinks and
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be a big game wednesday at 10 30 a.m
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: school day school day games and uh yeah that's gonna
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: be i mean they played they played they played a
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: few times this year and they've been really good games
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: and um yeah rommel's hot voyden smith's hot they're gonna
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: meet 10 30 a.m on.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Wednesday hey i can tell you right now i don't
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: like the games now being a crusty adult but when
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: i was a kid i would have loved this Growing
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: up a Knights fan, if they had a school day game,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: not that that would ever happen, but if they had
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: a school day game, I'd be all over my teachers.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: We gotta go, we gotta go. I'd be all over that.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: Or I'd probably play hooky and go to the game
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: anyway and call it a day. The only reason why
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: I wish this wasn't a school day game, because I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: want it to be the primetime game, you know, a
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Wednesday night. There's not a lot of games on Sarnia
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: when Sound are on as well. That's a huge game
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: for the directions of those hockey clubs, but I really
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: wish this was a prime time, you know, the only
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: game on at that day. And everyone in the OHL universe,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: DHL universe is watching the game because what a treat
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: that's going to be in that rivalry.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Kingston 4-0 in their last four, 8-2 in their
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: last 10. Ottawa starting to get going, 6-3 in their
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: last nine.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: It's prime time hockey. And it's two teams that don't
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: really like each other as well. And two very good
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: hockey coaches in Troy Mann and Dave Cameron.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be a treat to watch. And
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: those kids are going to be.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: In for some good hockey.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Bring the Tylenol if you're calling the game.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: Or the Advil. Bring the headache reliefs. It's a loud
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: environment for school day games. We'll get to stick taps
• 1:07:27
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• 1:07:29
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• 1:08:08
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• 1:08:09
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• 1:08:13
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• 1:08:16
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• 1:08:23
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• 1:08:28
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• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: Stick Tap of the Week, Joel. Who you got?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go with the Kingston Frontenacs beating the
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Brantford Bulldogs 5-0. And the way I'm going to go
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: with this is the Kingston Frontenacs have struggled with Brantford
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: over the course of the last three years. And for
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: them to come out and have that game and the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: way they were prepared for that hockey game, it shows
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: me that they are tapering. that next step which is
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: what they have to do in this maturation process my
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: man's been there a few years now and they've made
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: the playoffs and they've had winning records but now it
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: kind of feels like it's you need that it's time
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: to take that next step royden smith's been excellent they
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: made the move early adding zarowski Kuhlman Schneider in their
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: draft years have been, have been outstanding. You have, you
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: had the Euros come over.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: It feels like now is kind of the time to, Hey, it's, it's,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: it's coming. What we've been working on is coming.
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  Speaker 2: Um, so I think, I think that game was, was
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a statement and I know, um,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: from the Brantford side, yeah, they didn't come in as
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: prepared as they should. Um, just talking to some of
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: the media members in Bramford. But it was, it's encouraging
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: to see that because earlier in the season, it was
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: the flip of that, right?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was. You know, I said it.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: And I, and I believe in, I think you're on
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: the same wavelength as me here. Looking up in January,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: those teams are going to be at the top of
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: the Eastern division. those teams, if, if Brantford can continue and,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: and Stu Hyman is, is going to, he's, they're going
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: to make the moves. They're, they're going to stay competitive.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: It's what they do.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: And one game doesn't define that. And I think those
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: two teams are on a path to keep this thing going.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: And it's going to be really interesting when you, when
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: you look up in January and say, Hey, Ottawa, Kingston,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Brantford are all going to be really good hockey teams. And, um, Yeah,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: I think it was an encouraging game from them because
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: of their past struggles against that hockey club.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: That 10-2 game for Kingston was so beneficial for that
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: season series. For the head-to-head confidence, I mean, that was
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: huge for Kingston. I know to lose 10-2, you're thinking, Colin,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: you're crazy. But no, that, to lose 10-2, either get buy-in,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: you know what you got if you're Troy Mann and staff, right?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: When you lose a game like that, you know, hey,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: when you go back to the drawing board, You know
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: what type of desperation you have in your hockey club.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: You know what you got. Love the pick, Joel. The
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: Kings of Groton, actually. You're sick of tapping the weak
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: percent of my butt ends. I'm going to go with
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: Edveni Dobrotsev of the North Bay Battalion. The most underrated
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: player right now in the OHL. He's got 14 goals
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: in 17 games, and he's not talked about. He's not
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: talked about. And I didn't even talk about re-entries in
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: the National Hockey League draft. I mentioned all these undrafted players.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: If any, Debra, it's a 14 goals and 17 games
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: of the North Bay battalion. And nobody's talking about them.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: And I think that's why I got to go get
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: my stick tap of the week. Good. Benny Debra. Seth, um,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: of the North Bay battalion. I mean, 14 in 17, uh,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: have a start. And, uh, you gotta love that, uh,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: for the opportunity in the Ontario hockey league. Two more
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: things before we run out the show on this week's episode, Joel,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: appreciate you being the guest co-host this week. Um, BC's gone.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: We haven't even fixed the NFL. We haven't even fixed
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: our NFL team for the trade deadline. We haven't did
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: any of that, Joel. I can't believe it. The power rankings.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: Power rankings, the biggest hot topic of the week on
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: social media in the OHL universe because everyone cares about them,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: but they mean nothing. But everyone loves them. We'll start
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: with number 16. The Oshawa Generals move up into the top,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: into the Sweet 16 this week.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: They're at 16.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: The Sarnia Sting dropped four spots to 15. The Saginaw
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: Spirit dropped four spots, but I expect them to go
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: up to 14th. The Peterborough Peets go up one spot
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: to 13. They're starting to score goals in that division, Joel.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: That was a big win for them on Thursday over Brantford.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: Big win in overtime against the Ice Dogs on Sunday,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: the weekend for the Peterborough Peets. North Bay goes up 1-12.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: Erie goes up 1-11. Windsor goes up 7. Michael Newlove,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: the former red blob to the helicopter landing pad this year,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: goes up to 10th. Sioux, they stay the same. The
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: Greyhounds stay at 9. Ottawa 67s drop 2-8. The Brantford
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Bulldogs drop 2-7. How about them defending Memorial Cup champions?
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: The reigning champs, Kitchener Rangers.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Go up two to number six. The London Knights go
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: up two to number five. The Sudbury Wolves remain the
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: same at number three. The Flint Firebirds drop two spots
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: to number three. The Kings and Frontenacs go up one
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: spot to number two. And the Guelph Storm go up
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: one spot to number one. The Guelph Storm, number one
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: on this week's Power Ranking. Joel, any complaints about the
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: Power Rankings this week? Or what's your thoughts on the
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: rankings this week in the Ontario Hockey League Power Rankings?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: I think it's a pretty good list. I mean, everyone's
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: going to have their thoughts, right?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: This team's too low.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: This team's too high. It's clickbait.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's semantics, right? It's, I like this guy. This
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: guy's on a hot streak, right? But I think at
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, I like that the OHL
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: does it because I like that it creates talking points
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: around the league. It creates, you know, every Monday you're
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: looking for, right? you're looking, Hey, where's my team going
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: to be? They had a good week. Right.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: And it's, I think it's fun.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's, it's something that, um, I know people
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: have their, their certain thoughts on it, but at the
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: end of the day, I, I, I think it's a
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: pretty good ranking. I mean, I think there wasn't too
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: much Windsor jump seven.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Um, I mean, they're cool. Statement winning all in sound. Yeah.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, I think outside of that, most teams
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: stayed around where they were, right?
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: It's two spots up, two spots down.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: Sioux stayed where they were. So, I think it's a
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: pretty solid ranking.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: And I think when you get the big swings, it's
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: what kind of creates the eye candy.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: We all like those. Yeah. You know what? I agree.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's, I have all my thoughts
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: on the power rankings and I read into it. I
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: don't read into it, but every time it's on, every
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: time it's posted, I look, I think a lot of
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: fancy that as well. A Friday face up before we
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: wrap things up for this week's episode of the OHL
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: and 60 podcast. Appreciate everyone who's stayed tuned to this
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: week's episode. It's the Erie honors at the Flint firebirds,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: all American matchup, Pennsylvania versus Michigan. Otters eight and eight,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: six and two Flint firebirds, 11, three and one to
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: start the season. Joel, who, who we advising beat cap
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: for his picks this week, who we advising for the
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: advisors for his picks.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: That's tough.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: So I have some in-depth stats for those fans who
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: haven't done this yet. The score app has been incredible
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: for OHL consumers. Um, It's cool. The average age of teams,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: the average weight of teams, all the in-depth for stat nerds.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: It's the best. Goals per game for the Flint Firebirds, 3.73. Joel,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: they're 7th in the OHL. Erie Otters, 2.94 goals a game.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: They're 17th. Shots on goal, 30.9 a game for Flint. 32.3
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: for Erie. So it's going to be a high-octane game.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: Power plays are ranked 10th for Erie, 14th for Flint.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: Shooting percentage, 7th for Flint. So they score a lot
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: of goals. Goals allowed, though. And I know you like
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: defensive hockey, Joel. Goals allowed, Flint. They're the tops in
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: the OHL for the least amount of goals a game,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: and that speaks to their record with 11 wins already. 2.6
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: goals allowed per game is their average. I mean, I'm
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: kind of leaning to the Firebirds. But they got to
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: stay out of the box in the game. They take
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: the second most penalties in the league. They got to
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: stay out of the box. Flint is where I'm leaning
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Lombardi's 20 points and 14. He's off to a
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: tremendous start. I mean, you look at their goaltending. You
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: talked about it. They got two guys they can roll
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: Trenton Bennett's got a 936 save percentage. What's up with
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: goalies in the NHL not being like the OHL? It's
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: a goalie. I love it. And you look at Trent Bennett, 6'8. Yeah.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: Mason Corville's 7'2. He's a veteran goaltender now in the league.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a legit backup behind him in Bennett.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: You can roll him out. You can keep him healthy,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: keep him rested. They're pushing each other every day, too. Yeah.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Lombardi can score. Cooper Williams can score. He's got 13
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: in 15 games. He's got 10 assists in 15 games.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: They've got a good hockey team. Charlie Mertner is a
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: good young player.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: But then on the Erie side, Igorov is a guy
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: that can easily steal you a game. You've watched him
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: for a long time in Brantford. He's been a guy
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: that's in depth there, Erie.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: They're 8-6. Liam Beamish was a nice pickup from Sarnia.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Ty Henry's finally healthy on the back.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: End.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think it's going to be an interesting
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: hockey game. I would give... If Brandon asked for my advice,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: I would lean Flint. Me too. But it's a hesitant.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Just because of the defensive kind of thing there and.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: And the goaltending. Yep.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, you just talk about goaltending. Igorov's also
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: a very solid customer.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's going to be a good game.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: I think, like you mentioned, that's what you want for
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: the Friday night primetime.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: You want eyes on the game, and they picked a
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: good one. Absolutely, they did. I mean, I couldn't have
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: said it any better.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: I'm going to lean Flynn as well.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: Flip a coin. flip a coin for the results, uh,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: and branding lean with that. But I, I agree with
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: Flynn as well. Um, but the exact same reasons, but, uh,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: that's going to do it for this edition of the podcast. Joel,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: appreciate you joining.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Me this week.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think we have anything more to add. We
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: fixed the league. Um, we didn't fix football, but we
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: do that off air. Um, it's a hockey podcast. We
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: can go on for hours. If we got into college,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: the NFL, we can go on for hours on that. But, uh,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you taking the time, Joel. Can't wait to have
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: you on again. I mean, this was a blast through
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: me and I hope you, hope you enjoyed as well. Yeah,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: it was a lot of fun.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: I always enjoyed talking to hockey with you and we've
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: been doing this a long time and it's, it's always,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: it's always nice to get your insights and I really
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: enjoy just, you know, when you're at the games, getting
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: the text about what's going on and the rants.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, yeah, let's be honest. They're, they're rants.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: So, but no, you, I'll say this. You, you care
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: about this league. You care about junior hockey. You put
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: a lot of time and work into what you're doing.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: And, um, it's, it's, it's nice to have, it's nice
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: to listen to tune in and see, see.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: That and, and know how much you care about, about
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: the league and, and, and all that.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: So it's, it's, it's tremendous.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: And, uh, yeah, I appreciate you just having me on
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: and spending an hour with you, but it's, it's great.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: So, Getting you on the podcast is kind of like
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: when I got to do an article with you where
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: it is yap, yap, yap. It's like, Colin, we got
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: nothing done here. Yeah, it's like, oh. Put it on
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: the paper. Yeah. Bonus. Yeah. But no, I appreciate you, Joel,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: for taking the time. I know a lot of our
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: listeners enjoy your articles on the website and the editing
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: side there. It's been a busy year on the armchair. um,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: with all the edits and all the, uh, articles. I mean,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: it's been a blast on the OHL portion. I know
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: the Savers as well with Brandon, what he's got going here. Um,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: it's been incredible. It's nice that we get to play
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: a part of it.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's, it's Brandon's doing a great job, uh, and,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: and a great, it's great to be given the opportunity to,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: to do this.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: So I'm really thankful for him. And, uh, yeah, it's,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: it's been a busy year. It's, I can't believe it.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: It's already November 2nd. So it's been a lot more
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: to come with, with the U 17, uh, Team Canada stuff.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: So keep an eye out for that on the website.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: Working through that now with Brandon.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: So we'll have articles throughout the week and into next
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: week probably as well with that. So, yeah, I just
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: did one up on Tanner Adams, the star forward from
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: the Sudbury Wolves.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: So it's great. We'll touch on that next week. That'll
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: be a blast. That's going to wrap up for another
• 1:22:16
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• 1:23:02
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• 1:23:05
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