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Drake drops shots at Lebron - don’t forget to put your feet on the grass! · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: George.
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Speaker 2: I'm a homegrown that knows a little bit about everything
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Speaker 2: and everybody, you know, if.
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Speaker 1: You don't lie about that, right Lauren, Hey.
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Speaker 2: Y'all, it's Lauren Lorosa and this is the latest with
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Speaker 2: Lauren Loroza. First episode back after the holiday weekend. And y'all, okay,
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Speaker 2: before we get on into the things, cause y'all know
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Speaker 2: all of the conversations that shake the room. But guys,
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Speaker 2: I had such an amazing Fourth of July holiday with
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Speaker 2: my family. If we're checking in behind the scenes of
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Speaker 2: the grind, Yes.
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Speaker 1: My holiday was great.
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Speaker 2: It's always just a very like you know, people tell
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Speaker 2: you like you gotta go put your feet on the ground,
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Speaker 2: feet on is it feet on the ground? Boots on
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Speaker 2: the ground. See, my family kept doing the boots on
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Speaker 2: the groundline dance. So now my mind is all everything's
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Speaker 2: boots on the ground and fans and where the fans that.
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Speaker 2: But the the line that you hear often from people
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Speaker 2: is every now and then, you gotta go put your
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Speaker 2: feet on the grass, and just you know, it's like
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Speaker 2: a don't forget where you come from, connect back with
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Speaker 2: you know, the land, the people, the earth, all the things.
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Speaker 2: It's like a centering conversation that people have. So I
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Speaker 2: was really looking forward leading up to this break to
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Speaker 2: number one, just have the vacation that we had. I
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Speaker 2: did take fourth of July off, even here at the podcast,
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Speaker 2: and y'all know I don't do that, but I really
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Speaker 2: wanted to take the time to just like breathe in,
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Speaker 2: breathe out, let it go. After the close of Diddy's trial,
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Speaker 2: there is still more to come in that and we'll
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Speaker 2: get into that, but I did need the mental digest,
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Speaker 2: like the mental release, you know.
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Speaker 1: And it's always different when you're around.
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Speaker 2: People that love you, that you love, family, who don't
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Speaker 2: care anything about any of this stuff. Yes, everybody had
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Speaker 2: Diddy questions, but they don't care about any of this stuff.
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Speaker 1: So yes, it's just like a centering thing.
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Speaker 2: So if I'm checking it out, how I'm feeling today
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Speaker 2: behind the scenes of the grind, I'm feeling very centered.
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Speaker 2: I'm ready to get back to work, get back into
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Speaker 2: the action, back into the things, to the point where
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Speaker 2: I actually got up this morning and went to the
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Speaker 2: breakfast club at five thirty am, thinking that we were
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Speaker 2: back live on air today and we do not return
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Speaker 2: until tomorrow. So that's how anxious I was. And it's
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Speaker 2: the most amazing sleep that you get after you realize
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Speaker 2: you woke up too early or you didn't even have
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Speaker 2: to wake up early at all, and then you could
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Speaker 2: go back to sleep. So it's been great Chef's Kiss,
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Speaker 2: Chef's Kiss. But let's get on into the latest, because
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Speaker 2: there has been things that have went down since the
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Speaker 2: last time I've been here breaking things down with you guys.
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Speaker 2: Over the holiday weekend, there was some new music that dropped.
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Speaker 2: Drake dropped a new song. The song is called What
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Speaker 2: Did I Miss? He also premiered a song. It wasn't
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Speaker 2: like a full premiere though. It's just like a clip
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Speaker 2: of a song called super Max where he's like talking
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Speaker 2: to or talking about a conversation he had with a friend.
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Speaker 2: It later came out Taylor Rook's confirmed that the friend
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Speaker 2: was her. Where he's talked, where he's being talked to
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Speaker 2: about people around him not being able to handle pressure
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Speaker 2: and fame and you know that whole thing.
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Speaker 1: But back to what did I Miss? Because What did
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Speaker 1: I Miss?
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Speaker 2: Is a direct response or effect or consequence or whatever
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Speaker 2: of the Not Like Us era. I cannot believe that
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Speaker 2: we are still here when it comes to like I
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Speaker 2: know in conversation, we're still going to be here. But
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Speaker 2: when it comes to Drake and Kendrick actually making music,
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Speaker 2: I can't believe that Drake is still dropping songs referencing
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Speaker 2: things that happened to him around the Not Like Us time.
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Speaker 1: So a few things that stood out during this song.
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Speaker 2: You know, Drake talks a lot about you know, just
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Speaker 2: people switching sides, and you know, some of the things
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Speaker 2: that we've heard heard him talk about leading up to
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Speaker 2: this point. This is not his first time having this conversation.
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Speaker 2: More specifically, he talks about Lebron in this song. Here's
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Speaker 2: the line I saw bro.
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Speaker 1: Windo pop out with them and did Ryan.
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Speaker 3: Gains his hand lines?
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Speaker 2: Now, Look, I have no issue with music artists talking
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Speaker 2: through their real life and their music. I think that
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Speaker 2: your real life is what inspires your art. I think
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Speaker 2: that when you know artists, whether you're a music artist
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Speaker 2: or whatever you do, when you're gifted enough to be
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Speaker 2: able to take your real life and bring it into
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Speaker 2: your talent and into your art and portray in a
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Speaker 2: way that then becomes something that people can, you know,
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Speaker 2: debate about or have conversation about.
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Speaker 1: I think that that is genius.
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Speaker 2: But the reason why I'm not a big fan of
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Speaker 2: What Did I Miss and Drake rapping throughout, you know,
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Speaker 2: rapping through his problems on this song is because I
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Speaker 2: feel like the substance of the song is just it's
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Speaker 2: a waste of Drake's time. If I'm being honest with you,
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Speaker 2: I feel like Drake wasted his time with this song.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's Drake, so of course people are gonna
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Speaker 2: love it. Of course it's gonna do what it does
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Speaker 2: because he's Drake. He's one of the biggest artists in
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Speaker 2: the world. But I do think substance matters for him,
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Speaker 2: especially right now when everybody is still having these back
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Speaker 2: and forth conversations about Drake and Kendrick Lamar. I just
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Speaker 2: think it's important now. When I was thinking about this,
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Speaker 2: as I was listening to the song and I was
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Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out why I really didn't
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Speaker 2: care for this song much. I was trying to figure
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Speaker 2: out where does Drake even go from here?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 1: Because what did I miss? Like sonically it's.
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Speaker 2: Cool, like it's you know, the beat is cool, Drake's rapping,
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Speaker 2: and I actually enjoy Drake rapper Drake.
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Speaker 1: I like melody Drake as well.
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Speaker 2: And I know that that has been a conversation especially
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Speaker 2: since the not like a stuff of people feeling like
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Speaker 2: Drake needs to stick to being melodic and singing and
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Speaker 2: you know, or I guess it's what you call what
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Speaker 2: Drake does, you call sing it. But y'all know what
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Speaker 2: I mean when when Drake getting his melody back is
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Speaker 2: very different than rapper Drake.
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Speaker 1: But I'm one of the you know, the the Drake.
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Speaker 2: Fans and listeners that I appreciate both like I like
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Speaker 2: Drake as a rapper, but I also love Drake on
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Speaker 2: the melodies when he talking to the girls and you know,
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Speaker 2: or it's just like a party anthem something like that.
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Speaker 2: But I just feel like here right, like, my issue
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Speaker 2: isn't that Drake is rapping. That has been a lot
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Speaker 2: of the conversation around this song. Though people are just
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Speaker 2: upset that he's rapping. They don't want him to do that.
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Speaker 2: My issue, though, is I think at this point we
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Speaker 2: have gotten to a point with this wrap back and
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Speaker 2: forth between Kendrick Lamar and Drake where the artists themselves
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Speaker 2: should be moved on, like we know who. We know
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Speaker 2: clearly who won the battle. We saw effort from both sides.
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Speaker 2: But at this point, there's nothing that Drake can say
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Speaker 2: about that situation or that time that is going to
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Speaker 2: make people have the empathy for him that I think
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Speaker 2: that he's looking for. And the only reason why I
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Speaker 2: said I think that he's looking for because every single
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Speaker 2: time since not like us in the conversation of Drake
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Speaker 2: lost the battle and people switch insides. The only conversation
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Speaker 2: we've heard from Drake through his music and you know,
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Speaker 2: little subliminals on stage and you know him popping up
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Speaker 2: at the basketball games and throwing side eyes at you know,
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Speaker 2: the Martin rose In and things like that. Right, the
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Speaker 2: only thing that we've heard from him directly has been
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Speaker 2: it's very much been woe is Me? And I don't
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Speaker 2: feel that for him. And it's not because he lost
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Speaker 2: the battle. Drake is still Drake. He's still great at
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Speaker 2: what he does. I still love the music. But it's like, Bro,
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Speaker 2: you threw your ring in a hat and it didn't
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Speaker 2: work out. It didn't work out in your favor, and
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Speaker 2: I don't know why we are like if I'm Drake.
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Speaker 2: I'm not spending more time on that. I'm great as
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Speaker 2: an artist. I'm great at what I do. I'm figuring
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Speaker 2: out what my new subject matter should be and I'm
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Speaker 2: going there. And maybe that's the real conversation of like
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Speaker 2: you know, because because there's always been to talk after
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Speaker 2: the not like Us moment of did Kendrick Lamar pull
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Speaker 2: back the curtain on the fact that there is no
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Speaker 2: real substance to Drake and have we as fans and
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Speaker 2: as listeners just been so okay with that because the
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Speaker 2: music is great and there's nothing wrong with that either.
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Speaker 2: I don't agree with that rhetoric. I think that Drake
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Speaker 2: has substance of his own. I just don't know what
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Speaker 2: that looks like at where he is in life today,
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Speaker 2: as you know, as the father he is, as the
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Speaker 2: super rich, successful artist, he is, as the demand he
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Speaker 2: is right because when when Drizzy Drake, you know what
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Speaker 2: I mean, When when when I'm talking like old like
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Speaker 2: mixtape era, Drake was rapping, it was hunger, it was
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get on and so y'all got to
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Speaker 2: hear me. It's you know, I'm representing Canada and I
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Speaker 2: want you all to know about us and know who
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Speaker 2: we are, you know what our style is like Now
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Speaker 2: I don't know what his substance. I don't know what
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Speaker 2: his subject matter is. And that's the issue here. I
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Speaker 2: think what did I miss was not a hit. It
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Speaker 2: was a miss because of the substance matter. It was
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Speaker 2: lack thereof. It's like, what are we even talking about?
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Speaker 2: And why Like, why are you spending so much time
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Speaker 2: telling Lebron why your feelings are hurt? We know your
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Speaker 2: feelings were hurt. We heard you say that already, you
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Speaker 2: got it out.
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Speaker 1: Let's move on.
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Speaker 2: And I know people are gonna argue, well, they've had
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Speaker 2: the relationship that they've had, and you know, Drake was
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Speaker 2: doing things with uninterrupted in Canada and Lebron was popping
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Speaker 2: out and supporting him at his shows and all of
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Speaker 2: these things that they've been friends for a very long time.
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Speaker 2: People also talk about that Drake tattoo, that Drake Lebron tattoo,
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Speaker 2: and you know he was showing him so much respect,
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Speaker 2: and you know, all of that is fine and dandy,
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Speaker 2: and the fans and the conversations are entitled to it.
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Speaker 2: But at this point, right now, if I'm Drake, I
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Speaker 2: really would be trying to figure out what is it
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Speaker 2: that I'm saying and why if I'm just having a
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Speaker 2: good time. Take No Kya for instance, Right the minute
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Speaker 2: I heard some Sexy Songs for You, which is him
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Speaker 2: and Party next Door's collab album, I knew Nokia was
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Speaker 2: a hit.
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Speaker 1: That was the first thing I.
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Speaker 2: Said about this album the very next day that it dropped,
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Speaker 2: and people thought I was crazy. They were like, the
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Speaker 2: song is not even like that, Like he not really
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Speaker 2: talking about much on this album.
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Speaker 1: It's like because people.
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Speaker 2: Want to hear Drake talk about the whole Kendrick Lamart thing,
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Speaker 2: but then it's like they don't want to hear it.
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Speaker 2: I'm wanted the people that I felt I wanted to
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Speaker 2: hear it at first we heard it.
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Speaker 1: I just want you to move on.
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Speaker 2: But Nokia was a bop and now Nokia is It's
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Speaker 2: such it what No Kia's Drake is Drake again, So
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Speaker 2: his music is always going to do well. But Nokia
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Speaker 2: everywhere song of the Summer easily, and he didn't talk
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Speaker 2: about anything beef wise in that song.
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Speaker 1: He's just having a good time. So there's nothing wrong.
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Speaker 2: If Drake is at the point of his career where
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Speaker 2: He's like, I just want to have a good time.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to make music where you got a
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Speaker 2: d code, you gotta this and you gotta that. I
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Speaker 2: think that it is a disservice to like his core
10:55
Speaker 2: fans who know him as this witty you gotta listen
10:59
Speaker 2: to it a few times all of his songs become
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Speaker 2: the caption of all over it, Like y'all remember when
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Speaker 2: Drake used to drop for real for real and his
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Speaker 2: captions literally every lyric, every bar, every hook became Instagram
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Speaker 2: captions and social media captions for like the next six months.
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Speaker 1: Like there was a point in time where Drake's lyrics.
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Speaker 2: Ran social media, how people posted, how they captioned like everything.
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Speaker 2: Right now, we're at this point where his music is
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Speaker 2: coming and going. And it's not because I don't think
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Speaker 2: he's talented. I think a lot of us are looking
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Speaker 2: to rediscover his substance. And I think that one thing
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Speaker 2: that the Kendrick Lamar Drake did in his favor was
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Speaker 2: make us want to do that. Some people are looking
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Speaker 2: at this as like, oh my god, he lost the battle.
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Speaker 2: He's not Drake anymore. This is such a hit to
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Speaker 2: his career. No, Drake is still crazy. Famous music is
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Speaker 2: still good. This is a time for him to really
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Speaker 2: figure out what that direction is, whether it's partying or
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Speaker 2: it is a substance or it's both. And take us
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Speaker 2: there like we're waiting to see what is next? And
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Speaker 2: then what did I misdrop? And I'm like, first of all,
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Speaker 2: you didn't miss nothing. You was right there along with
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Speaker 2: all of us on the EDGAC because you responded to everything.
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Speaker 2: Your feelings were hurt by things. You're still talking about
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Speaker 2: Lebron and you know what you didn't like about seeing
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Speaker 2: Lebron at the PopOut show. I just I just think
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Speaker 2: it's a waste of Drake's time and I think it's
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Speaker 2: always its talent. And it's crazy because I actually had
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Speaker 2: a conversation I need to sit down interview with Elliott Wilson,
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Speaker 2: and the interview was great. Make sure you guys gonna
12:33
Speaker 2: check it out. It's on the Hip Hop DX YouTube channel.
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Speaker 2: If you go to YouTube and search Elliott Wilson, Laura
12:38
Speaker 2: and La Rosa, you'll see it there.
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Speaker 1: But check out the full interview.
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Speaker 2: We talked about a lot of different things, but Drake
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Speaker 2: and Kendrick Lamar came up and here's the conversation we
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Speaker 2: had take a listen.
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Speaker 1: To sit down with Drake and Kendrick. What would it
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Speaker 1: be the first thing you would say to them them
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Speaker 1: two together, Yeah, like sway with Jay and Dodds. Let's
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Speaker 1: say you got your only Laura La Wilson, get Drake
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Speaker 1: and Kendrick in the room. How do you thout the
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Speaker 1: conversation with these fools?
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Speaker 2: That's the first question, is like, I got y'all in
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Speaker 2: the same room, But can this ever really be resolved?
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Speaker 2: And we just go from there because I don't think
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Speaker 2: that it can. I think what we're watching and the
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Speaker 2: reason why people.
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Speaker 1: Are us not even because in real life.
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Speaker 2: You have one person that really just doesn't respect the
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Speaker 2: character of another person in real life and then you're
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Speaker 2: he's telling us through the music, right, I think that
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Speaker 2: with and you know you you were outside during this time.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't. But from my perspective of what jay.
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Speaker 2: Z and Nas is like they had their differences, but
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Speaker 2: like they both were yeah right respect and yeah, what
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Speaker 2: we're seeing right now is like there is a lack
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Speaker 2: of respect.
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Speaker 1: And that's my thing.
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Speaker 2: Like when I tell you, guys, people are so locked
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Speaker 2: into the Drake and Kendrick Lamar, because in real life
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Speaker 2: you can feel that there is a man I don't
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Speaker 2: really like you. And now in real life we're trying
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Speaker 2: to decide, well, who is Drake? We love his music,
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Speaker 2: but who is he? What do we really know about him?
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Speaker 2: And what he stands on it, what he stands for
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Speaker 2: and like all those things. And I think that's a
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Speaker 2: natural thing to do as a fan for any artist
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Speaker 2: as they grow. I just think that this Beef has
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Speaker 2: put a spotlight on it, Like now, you really want
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Speaker 2: to make sure you understand so that when you go
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Speaker 2: to defend Drake or defend his music, you know what
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Speaker 2: you're standing on. That's why substance matter. That's why substance matters.
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Speaker 2: But where does Drake go now? Because as I mentioned, right, y'all,
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Speaker 2: Not Like Us happened. Then we fast forward, Nokia drops
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Speaker 2: some sexy songs for you, drop some bangers on there,
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Speaker 2: and they do well. But everybody is still talking about
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Speaker 2: the beef. Everything Drake does, even if he doesn't do
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Speaker 2: it to like this song, he's actually referencing things that
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Speaker 2: were a direct effect of Not Like Us. But even
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Speaker 2: when he drops songs that has nothing to do with it,
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Speaker 2: nothing right, the fans still take it there. The hip
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Speaker 2: hop journalists still take you back there. Can Drake ever
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Speaker 2: escape the not Like Us effect? Is that a real thing?
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Speaker 1: Like Ken?
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Speaker 2: And I'm being so serious. I would love low Riders
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Speaker 2: every time. I tell y'all would love to hear from y'all.
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Speaker 2: Y'all blow me up with the conversations, and I love that.
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Speaker 2: I would really love to hear from you guys on
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Speaker 2: if you think Drake can escape the not Like Us error?
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Speaker 2: Where if he makes it, is it a good song?
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Speaker 2: Because Nokia was a good song. Whether you want to
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Speaker 2: argue if substance was there or not, did he take
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Speaker 2: you on a journey of a story or not? You
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Speaker 2: can argue that, but it was a great song for
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Speaker 2: all the critics and I'm one of them, and I
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Speaker 2: can't answer the question yet.
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Speaker 1: I've been I've been trying to figure it out.
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Speaker 2: Where does Drake go from here direction wise with his
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Speaker 2: music and can that get him out.
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Speaker 1: Of the not Like Us choke hold?
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Speaker 2: Because baby, the choke hold is choking okay now, Also
15:58
Speaker 2: in the latest, because y'all know, people are still wondering,
16:02
Speaker 2: Like the the Diddy verdict dropped, we found out that
16:05
Speaker 2: he was found not guilty on three of the five charges.
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Speaker 2: He's only looking to face the consequences for their prostitution charge.
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Speaker 1: But people want to.
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Speaker 2: Know what's about to happen. There was a report that
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Speaker 2: came out. It was a AP News that a report
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Speaker 2: They spoke to Diddy's attorneys about what it was like
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Speaker 2: for him to return to prison after the verdict dropped,
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Speaker 2: and Diddy's attorney Mark Agnifilio told the AP that Diddy
16:29
Speaker 2: was welcomed with cheers and claps and celebration when he
16:33
Speaker 2: walked back into prison, because the prisoners were saying thanks
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Speaker 2: to him, like we've never seen someone beat the Feds
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Speaker 2: and beat the government like that, and that I'm not
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Speaker 2: surprised by that response, especially not by you know, other
16:47
Speaker 2: inmates who are currently going through their own ins and
16:50
Speaker 2: outs with the government and you know, all those things.
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Speaker 2: But that is the feeling and the conversation, Like over
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Speaker 2: the holiday weekend, all of my family, whether they think
17:01
Speaker 2: that Diddy is a horrible person now because of all
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Speaker 2: these things they've heard or not.
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Speaker 1: The one thing you heard.
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Speaker 2: Echoed was yeah, but at the end of the day,
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Speaker 2: he beat the government. And I said this, I was
17:16
Speaker 2: I did NBC New York, NBC for New York shout
17:19
Speaker 2: out to them. We did a weekly breakdown called The
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Speaker 2: Case where we talked about Ditty's Case Sean Dittycomb's case
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Speaker 2: every week. It lasted for several weeks, so there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of content there for you guys to go and
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Speaker 2: watch if you choose to. And the date at the
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Speaker 2: verdict dropped right after we heard the decision of the
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Speaker 2: judge not to give Diddy bond and I talk to
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Speaker 2: you guys about this in my last episode before we
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Speaker 2: took our holiday break. We talked a little bit about
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Speaker 2: what it would have been like if Diddy were to
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Speaker 2: walk out of the courthouse the day that his verdict
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Speaker 2: had dropped.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to what I said.
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Speaker 3: Joining us from outside court, Laura lroe So who's not
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Speaker 3: only been joining us here on the case, but she's
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Speaker 3: been reporting on the Breakfast Club on Power one oh five.
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Speaker 3: And Lauren, you've been at the intersection of social media,
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Speaker 3: pop culture and justice, which is really what it's about.
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Speaker 3: We may have seen it before, but not quite like this.
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Speaker 3: So let me start with you talk us through.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if he were able to walk out
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Speaker 2: of court today, the image.
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Speaker 1: Of Diddy, Sean Didy Combs walking out in a crowd
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Speaker 1: full of people. Today, there were people out here like
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Speaker 1: I've never seen before, screaming free Puff.
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Speaker 2: And there was so much joy and excitement when he
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Speaker 2: was found out guilty on three out of the five charges,
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Speaker 2: after his legal team says this was a black man
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Speaker 2: who was very wealthy that was targeted by the government.
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Speaker 1: They would have leaned it on that image, and I
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Speaker 1: think he.
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Speaker 2: Would have been able to almost gain sympathy from the
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Speaker 2: people who've kind of thrown him away, especially since that
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Speaker 2: Cassie video.
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Speaker 1: But it's different now.
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Speaker 2: And that is what I know it knew his team
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Speaker 2: would lean into. Right, you have this image. If he
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Speaker 2: had walked out of the courtroom, it would have been stronger.
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Speaker 2: But right now, it's not the image of him like
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Speaker 2: a physical photo or video of Sean Combs walking out
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Speaker 2: of the courtroom after beating a rico charge. Right, But
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Speaker 2: you have the narrative in the conversation because when you
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Speaker 2: think about it, he was looking at life. What he's
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Speaker 2: going to be looking at now is not nearly anything
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Speaker 2: compared to what he was going to be looking at before.
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Speaker 2: So you do have the conversation of this black man
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Speaker 2: whose attorneys are alleging he was targeted by the government
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Speaker 2: winning to some extent. Now, whether that winning makes it
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Speaker 2: where he can actually be able to come back into
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Speaker 2: the world after he does whatever time or whatever consequence
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Speaker 2: he'll be looking at for that prostitution conviction, right, whether
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Speaker 2: he can come back into the world and be the
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Speaker 2: superstar that he was, which I don't think is fully possible.
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Speaker 2: I do think that you know, celebrity has celebrity is celebrity, right,
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Speaker 2: And there were a lot of people who were upset
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Speaker 2: about the way that people were, you know, celebrating Sean
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Speaker 2: Combs's ditties win on that verdict day that there was
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Speaker 2: a lot of conversation around the fact that, you know,
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Speaker 2: did he at the end of the day, whether he
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Speaker 2: did not was not found guilty of that racketeering, conspiracy
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Speaker 2: and the sex trafficking. We had seen videos and photos
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Speaker 2: of him brutally beating Cassie, and there are a lot
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Speaker 2: of people who are upset that he's being celebrated on
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Speaker 2: one hand for beating that rico charge, when on the
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Speaker 2: other hand, there's the domestic violence that we all saw,
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Speaker 2: even though he was not on trial for it. We
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Speaker 2: saw it and it happened, and people want to make
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Speaker 2: sure that we remember that.
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Speaker 1: But what is the.
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Speaker 2: Craziest underlying truth? And this is not my personal opinion,
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Speaker 2: this is just the truth. There is always something to
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Speaker 2: celebrity that will allow for anything, any wrongdoing of any
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Speaker 2: person to be somewhat ignored. When you think about r
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Speaker 2: Kelly and all that think Kelly's he didn't win anything.
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Speaker 2: R Kelly is sitting in behind bars right now and
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Speaker 2: will be probably for the rest of his life. And
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Speaker 2: there are still people out here arguing that he was
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Speaker 2: set up, that he was you know, all of these
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Speaker 2: things that literally were proven not correct in court, right,
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Speaker 2: But because of his celebrity and because of the fact
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Speaker 2: that people grew up listening to him in there, and
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Speaker 2: you know, the fandom of it all, there are people
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Speaker 2: that will still argue for him and will turn their
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Speaker 2: head completely to everything that we've heard be done to
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Speaker 2: other people because of this man's power. Now, I don't
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Speaker 2: want to compare the two, because I do think that
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Speaker 2: the Diddy conversation r Kelly conversation are different, which is
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Speaker 2: why Diddy was not convicted on sex trafficking in the
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Speaker 2: Rico charge, and I don't.
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Speaker 1: Even think it's not even that. I think it's not
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Speaker 1: about what I.
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Speaker 2: Think if we're looking at what was actually Diddy was
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Speaker 2: actually convicted of in a courtroom versus what R Kelly
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Speaker 2: was convicted of in the courtroom, there are there's difference
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Speaker 2: there based on just solely based on tongue in cheek,
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Speaker 2: just solely based on the charges and what was actually
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Speaker 2: convicted in one in court is what I'm talking about here, right.
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Speaker 2: But you think about other celebrities, right like you think
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Speaker 2: about a Kanye West, who people have strong feeling about
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Speaker 2: because of some of the political comments that he's made,
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Speaker 2: in the racial comments he's made, and just various things.
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Speaker 1: But I was there at.
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Speaker 2: The courtroom when Kanye West came to the courtroom. I
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Speaker 2: saw the way people acted like they had never seen
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Speaker 2: a celebrity in their life, like literally running from floor
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Speaker 2: to floors and buildings trying to find him the mayhem
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Speaker 2: it calls outside of the courtroom. There is always going
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Speaker 2: to be something to celebrity. So I don't know what
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Speaker 2: that looks like for Diddy when he, you know, returns
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Speaker 2: home from all this at whatever time that is after
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Speaker 2: Howard Amount of time, but there is something to it.
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Speaker 2: And my question and what my thought is is what
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Speaker 2: does that look like for him? I know a lot
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Speaker 2: of brands will not touch him. It's too messy now,
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Speaker 2: it's too tainted. We've seen that Cassie video. You cannot
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Speaker 2: get that image out of your head. But does he
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Speaker 2: live off of that core base of people who were
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Speaker 2: so caught up on a celebrity that they're willing to
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Speaker 2: turn their head to the side on everything else. Now,
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Speaker 2: there's a conversation that will happen this week on Diddy's
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Speaker 2: sentencing and when that will be. As of right now,
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Speaker 2: the sentencing is October third, But his lawyers did ask
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Speaker 2: in court and the government did not object to this
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Speaker 2: for the sentencing to be moved up, to be expedited,
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Speaker 2: because they wanted it to happen while everything was still
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Speaker 2: fresh in the court's mind, of everything that happened to
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Speaker 2: trial and everything that we've heard and you know, all
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Speaker 2: the things. And the government didn't object to this. So
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Speaker 2: they're going to have a conversation. It'll be virtual via zoom.
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Speaker 2: I think God reminded you guys did this in my
23:55
Speaker 2: last episode. But just to put a button on this
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Speaker 2: so they'll talk virtually via zoom about what that sentencing
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Speaker 2: timeline looks like when it will happen, and then the
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Speaker 2: sentencing will happen and we'll we'll find out, you know.
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Speaker 1: How long Sean Colmbs will be you.
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Speaker 2: Know, behind bars or whatever will happen following the verdict
24:16
Speaker 2: that we watched go down about a week ago at
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