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Knowing Your Human Design Type and Optimizing Your Life With Kylie Nel · Beyond Limits With Olivia Marie

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SPEAKER_00: Hello everyone, welcome back to another episode of the Live Well podcast.
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SPEAKER_00: I am so excited to have my friend Kylie on today to talk all about human design and really how to optimize your life by knowing your human design.
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SPEAKER_00: So don't worry if you don't know what it is.
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SPEAKER_00: We dive deep into all the different types.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I highly recommend you doing online.
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SPEAKER_00: There's like a not a quiz, but like you need to know like your birth time and your birthplace.
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SPEAKER_00: And if you just type in like free human design thing, it'll give you like the basics so you can find out which human design you are, so you know kind of like how to go about your life, etc.
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SPEAKER_00: Anyways, we will dive deeper that deeper into that in the episode.
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SPEAKER_00: But before we dive in, I wanted to remind you that Wellnourished is open for early enrollment, which means if you want an extended payment plan, now is the time to get in because it closes at the end of March if you want that option.
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SPEAKER_00: And then the live calls will start in May.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and the live calls are where we do really that deep embodiment work.
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SPEAKER_00: That's where we do all the unpacking of all the stuff that's made it difficult for you to have a healthy lifestyle, to have a healthy relationship with food up until now.
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SPEAKER_00: So you get all the content in the modules, you can start watching that now, and then bring any questions and stuff into the live calls where we do the release, the reprogramming, the anchoring, and all of that juicy stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: If I can have a puppy, run a business, and still have it be easy, you can too.
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SPEAKER_00: But yeah, if you want to get in while you can pay it off over four months instead of two, now is the time.
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SPEAKER_00: But getting back to today's episode.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, also before I do um a little intro about Kylie, I just dropped a call.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, my house manager just picked up a Kasha to drop her off at daycare.
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SPEAKER_00: And there's like a puppy birthday party going on, and they have pup cakes, and there's gonna be a photo shoot.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, guys, I can't believe like this is actually the dog mom that I wanted to be.
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SPEAKER_00: But just makes my heart like, she's I sent her off to go have fun and play and have pup cakes.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, and I saw it on their Instagram because like the the daycare has an Instagram um showing the pup cakes and like they look like actual cupcakes.
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SPEAKER_00: And like, to me, the thought of her enjoying this play date with the pup cakes like fills my heart.
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SPEAKER_00: Anyways, I had to add that in.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, share a little like personal story with you guys because it's so fun.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, so getting back to Kylie.
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SPEAKER_00: So Kylie is an intuitive business mentor and energy healer who is wildly passionate about helping women wake up to their full potential.
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SPEAKER_00: She aims to help female entrepreneurs move through the resistance they are experiencing in their business, amplify their truth and purpose, and to live in abundance, embrace their feminine energy, using that to build a visionary business online.
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SPEAKER_00: Her works include psychology and mindset work, intuitive channeling, angelic guidance, quantum human design, quantum healing, chakra activation and balancing, crystal healing, intuitive marketing, and soulful selling.
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SPEAKER_00: So much, whether you are an entrepreneur or not, or business, everything she says in this episode can be translated into like all different aspects of your life.
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SPEAKER_00: Because let's face it, who we are as our design impacts how we show up in all areas of our life.
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SPEAKER_00: So, with that being said, let us dive into the episode.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Live Well Podcast.
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SPEAKER_00: Hello, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Live Well podcast.
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SPEAKER_00: I am so excited because I have my friend Kylie on today.
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SPEAKER_00: She is a human design expert, fantastic, woo-woo, spiritual.
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SPEAKER_00: She's just added so much light to my life, but also taught me so much about me based on my human design.
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SPEAKER_00: So I know you guys are gonna love this episode.
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SPEAKER_00: Whether you've heard of human design or not, you're gonna learn so much.
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SPEAKER_00: So, Kylie, why don't you tell us a little bit about you, how you got into human design, what exactly it is you do?
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SPEAKER_02: So let's say I'm like, you pour a lot a lot of light into my life.
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SPEAKER_02: So touche, babe.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I am basically a quantum intuitive business mentor, and my focus is really on helping women build their businesses from a place of sustainability and also being able to scale successfully to fix figures.
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SPEAKER_02: So I do this through a range of things.
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SPEAKER_02: I obviously I love my business strategy and stuff, but I infuse a lot more, like you said, human design.
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SPEAKER_02: I also do like quantum healing um work to really help women heal on an energetic level.
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SPEAKER_02: Also, like past life healing so that we can actually close all the contracts we need to, and really just helping women infuse the energy and you found purpose and energy into their business in this lifetime so that they can just scale and build a really successful and very important to me sustainable business.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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SPEAKER_00: That is like I feel like that was like the perfect little explanation, and it sounds so interesting.
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SPEAKER_00: So for people who don't have those things, it's all like, yeah, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: I love what you do.
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SPEAKER_00: So for those people who don't know what human design is, can you briefly explain like what that means?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So actually, ironically enough, we can get into the types too, like even with my human design, being a manifesting generator, do not ask us for a one-liner pitch because I'm like, there are so many things that make me me.
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SPEAKER_02: So human design, I like to kind of think of it in its more simplest platform is your energetic throughprint.
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SPEAKER_02: So if you can think of a guy that literally shows you how you can not only navigate decisions in this lifetime, not only how you can navigate how you should live, communicate, express yourself, where your strengths are.
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SPEAKER_02: And I kind of I don't even like to think of them as weaknesses, but kind of where your little potholes are.
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SPEAKER_02: Your human design gives you an entire energy looper to know how to navigate life.
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SPEAKER_02: So human design was founded about, I mean, almost now 30 years ago, it's still a very, I would like to say, young practice.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, it's gained a lot of popularity in in the online space.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, every everyone is like almost doing human design now.
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SPEAKER_02: But I think what's really important for me for like everyone to know is that if you're interested in going into human design, make sure that you find someone that's in integrity with a practice.
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SPEAKER_02: I think that's a huge thing you and I were speaking about as well.
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SPEAKER_02: Like there's a lot of people that aren't really familiar with Ra, who is the founding teacher, like really familiar with how he set in store what the principles of human design are.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, and that's just something I I always tell people is make sure you find someone who's actually being trained by Ra's teachers.
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SPEAKER_02: But essentially, human design is like an intersection of astrology, it brings in physics, it brings in a lot of actually also ancient um just Chinese modalities as well.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's it's this beautiful mix, I feel of your entire soul's blueprints.
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SPEAKER_02: I think is the best way for me to put it.
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SPEAKER_02: It's really like your essence.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because even those the human design charts, if you guys have ever seen them, they have so many, it looks scientific, right?
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SPEAKER_00: With all like the open and closed, the arrows of this, it looks like physics.
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SPEAKER_00: So, like that makes sense that it's actually tied in that.
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SPEAKER_00: And when I found out that I was a projector, I was like, oh my god, yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Like this just resonates so much.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, yes, okay, I'm a Sagittarius and that resonate, but like this was like, oh my, this was like on a deeper level than just like I find what astrology is.
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SPEAKER_00: This was like more integrated.
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SPEAKER_00: I was like, oh, you just explained how I am, why I am, everything with business, life, relationships, everything was explained by me being a projector.
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SPEAKER_00: And also explained why I can't like do things how other people do things.
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SPEAKER_00: And so I think even in comparisonitis, you can't compare because like you are an MG, I'm a like projector.
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SPEAKER_00: I can't operate like how you operate because I will be on the floor.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And so people I think need to realize that they are different.
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SPEAKER_00: I think this can give them insight into their life about how they can really optimize their life or their business, everything, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: And you know, like even if I if I think of the bosses, I'm not sure, imagining like uh a human design charts in my mind's i right now, is I come from a very strong psychology background.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, studied honors, masters, all these things.
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SPEAKER_02: So personality tests never really vibe with them, but like psychomatrics was a huge part of what I did.
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SPEAKER_02: And this, even a lot of people have the Enneagram and stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, it goes deeper.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, your if you think of even a personality test, for example, because you know, the human design brings across so much of your personality, too.
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SPEAKER_02: Your personality tests change every single second of every single day.
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SPEAKER_02: Because depending on whatever, like I would like to say, energy you're in, you could be in a completely reactive state, take a test, it tells you that you're maybe this aggressive person.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know, and then you take the test on a day where you're so calm and you've got a completely different profile where your human design literally captures your soul essence within that moment in time that you were literally born in terms of how the planets align, it looks at you eaching.
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SPEAKER_02: It's literally a snapshot of your soul's essence, and it cannot really change at all.
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SPEAKER_02: It doesn't change throughout your lifetime.
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SPEAKER_02: So now you can imagine the power of knowing like your entire soul's personality, your energy, and it's fixed.
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SPEAKER_02: There is no maybe if I retake it, I'm gonna get different results.
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SPEAKER_02: It's actually such a reliable form of information.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's based on your date of birth and your time of birth, or is there something else that it's based on?
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SPEAKER_02: Also, your location.
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SPEAKER_02: So date of birth, location, and then time is super important.
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SPEAKER_02: So you want to make sure that you can get the exact time as possible.
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SPEAKER_02: There have been a few ladies that have come to me that don't always know there are time, and then we kind of need to intuitively channel it, and then I need to give them that pre-face to say, look, kind of take this.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't want to say with a pinch of salt, but if you don't have your exact time, the results may vary because I've literally seen it was actually hilarious.
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SPEAKER_02: I typed in a chart once and I'm like, I had a conversation with this woman, and she told me she was a sword in time.
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SPEAKER_02: And I typed in the minute raw, and her entire profile changed.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's really important to know you know what your exact time is, and there's so many ways to find that out.
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SPEAKER_02: And if you can't at least work with someone that's intuitive to help you narrow down more or less, and then just know that this is really a very rough guideline.
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SPEAKER_00: So there's five main human design types, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Can you briefly explain like each one in like a sentence or two?
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SPEAKER_02: So we essentially have four.
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SPEAKER_02: Um we yeah, we have the first one is the generators, and then many gins fall under a two.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, generators are like your worker bees.
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SPEAKER_02: We have, I like to kind of say that we are here to ruffle society's feathers.
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SPEAKER_02: We are the workhorses, um, and we just like to like throw the pot a little bit.
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SPEAKER_02: Like we're here to, I mean, if you think of Rach as well, Rach is also a many gin, if I remember correctly.
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SPEAKER_02: So we're here to ruffle feathers, new ways of being.
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SPEAKER_02: Then you get your manifestors, which are really your innovators of society.
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SPEAKER_02: So they will innovate, bring new things across.
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SPEAKER_02: They'll take kind of, I would like to say, the data that like the man, like the many genes and the generators have created from just ruffling all the feathers in society, breaking the norms, generate new ideas, and they're very much your your top-down leaders.
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SPEAKER_02: So they're the people that someone will come to and be like, Tony shit, I look up to you so much.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, I just want to be in your energy.
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SPEAKER_02: I want to be like you.
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SPEAKER_02: If you I kind of like to think of a manifesto as that monk type of vibe where someone really looks up to them like, oh my god, I need to you need to help you reach a new level of enlightenment, then you'll get your projectors, like you are where you're very much more about horizontal leadership, you're here to really walk with people, but projectors also have very finite energy sources.
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SPEAKER_02: So I like to kind of say you guys are very potent, very powerful.
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SPEAKER_01: Very potent and very powerful, but you also have a very concentrated energy source.
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SPEAKER_01: So for you, it's really about you guys are are the perfect embodiment of work three hour days.
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SPEAKER_01: That is you, babes.
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SPEAKER_01: You guys can do that.
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SPEAKER_01: But as a generator, as a managing, like there are days we can work six hours those days where we can literally like work three if we want.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and then you get your reflectors, which literally, as the name says, they're just here to kind of be the mirrors in society.
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SPEAKER_01: So they'll always be the person in the room.
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SPEAKER_01: I kind of like to think of it like explain it in this way your reflector is like the child in the house that keeps throwing time trims because the parents are fighting, or there is like energy in the house.
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SPEAKER_01: So reflectors will always kind of really project what's happening, and from there and projecting in society what's happening to be like, look, we need to fix this.
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SPEAKER_01: The energy here isn't right, or yes, this is working.
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SPEAKER_01: They will just always kind of like navigate the ship in that sense.
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SPEAKER_00: That makes sense.
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SPEAKER_00: And the projectors and reflectors were like less in society, right?
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SPEAKER_00: In terms of like the percent of people who are these things, it's like really small for reflectors, a little bit bigger for projectors, but then most people are usually generators, manifestors, or manifesting generators, right?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: It's so funny because I feel like I have the ambition of a generator or like the I want to get stuff done like a generator, but my energetic capacity is nothing.
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SPEAKER_00: And so when you told me that, I'm like, that makes so much sense why I see some people who can just generate and go, go, go, and I get so exhausted so easily.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: And I think you know what's amazing is for me, whenever I view someone's chart, I'm like, I don't want them to tell me you've taught me something new about them about myself or anything of such.
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SPEAKER_02: I literally want them to tell me you've helped me come back formed myself.
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SPEAKER_02: Because I feel like human design gives you this permission slip that you finally understand why you operate like you do.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, for example, in human design, we have like our nine different centers, and I think it is nine.
14:44
SPEAKER_02: Let's see here.
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SPEAKER_02: So head center, agile center, solar plexus, sacral, emotional, fruits, spleen.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we've got seven.
14:54
SPEAKER_02: There we go, seven centers.
14:56
SPEAKER_02: It's been a long week.
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SPEAKER_02: When I said nine, my body was like, uh-uh, we've got seven.
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SPEAKER_02: And I think what's the beauty is like I've got an open head center, and for me, I've always struggled with my thoughts just over-escalating all the time.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, I had perpetual thoughts very bad anxiety.
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SPEAKER_02: And the moment I actually read about an open head center, I'm like, this is kind of the norm.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, even my agile center is open, so I always get downloads, I always have so many thoughts firing.
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SPEAKER_02: I was kind of like, oh, I actually don't have anxiety.
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SPEAKER_02: I've just got an open head and an open agile center.
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SPEAKER_02: I can just know what's worth attaching to, know what I can ignore, and that's it.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I believe I'm an open sacral, or my the bottom half of my chart is open.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, so your your roots enter your sacral, and I think also your your spinal sort of excess.
15:42
SPEAKER_02: I can't remember.
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SPEAKER_00: I feel like all I know is like this down was like all open, and I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense.
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SPEAKER_00: So what other examples of like insights do you find that the human design can give as to like, oh, you should then do that this this way?
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SPEAKER_02: So I would say definitely your authority.
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SPEAKER_02: So your authority shows you how, like, where is your decision-making powerhouse within your system?
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SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, there's a number of authorities.
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SPEAKER_02: I think the most common ones that we find is either your sacral authority, um, your emotional authority, or a lot of times for projectors, it's self-projected.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, and really the moment you lean into that, you understand how your authority works, and we can maybe speak about your and my authority so people can see the contrast.
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SPEAKER_02: It kind of helps you make decisions with more confidence and understand why we all have different decision-making capacities too.
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SPEAKER_02: So, for example, with a sacral authority, I'm sacral.
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SPEAKER_02: So, I'll get a full-body yes if I want to do something, like it'll literally feel like this juicy, like how yes, I have to do this.
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SPEAKER_02: Or I literally get like this how no, and something just I would like to say repulses me.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, I just step away.
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SPEAKER_02: And from the outside, if you've got a sacral authority, people usually think we're very impulsive because we make decisions instantaneously and we operate really quickly.
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SPEAKER_02: And what's interesting is like when I knew that, I was like, this explains why even my business has always had immense shifts all the time.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm never sitting still, and many gans, we tend to like experience overwhelm very quickly because we operate very quickly as we're always pivoting and always shifting.
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SPEAKER_02: Where, for example, what was your authority?
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SPEAKER_02: I think it was an emotional authority.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, I don't know.
17:33
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I need to look it up.
17:34
SPEAKER_00: I don't remember all of them.
17:36
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
17:39
SPEAKER_00: That's my chart.
17:40
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I am sorry, I do not remember, but I also don't remember.
17:44
SPEAKER_02: It was like last year, December.
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SPEAKER_02: But like, for example, if you're an emotional authority, it's you should never make decisions in the moment and never make decisions based on your emotions.
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SPEAKER_02: So, with an emotional authority, because you'll always have emotions that are waving up and down, it's so important for you.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, let's say, for example, like if you were an emotional authority and we can see what you are now when you pull it up.
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SPEAKER_02: If you, if I came to you and I was like, cool, let's like collab on this.
18:15
SPEAKER_02: Literally tell your tell this person, I'll give you two to three days and get back to you.
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SPEAKER_02: Because you never want to make a decision in the moment or in your emotions, because your emotions are continuously fluctuating, and you need to learn to ride that wave in your emotions.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'm just looking it up.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm a self-projected authority.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so that's actually the one I wanted to speak about too.
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SPEAKER_02: So self-projected, it makes you even so much so powerful, and this like suits you suits you live.
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SPEAKER_02: It's because your self-projected authority is just you've just got this inner, innate knowing.
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SPEAKER_02: It is so powerful.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like you just know.
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SPEAKER_02: There's it's not really rooted in logic, it's not like a feeling within your body, like our circular centers will usually feel it roundabouts.
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SPEAKER_02: I always get these butterflies in my tummy when it's like this full yeah, it's like even now on the podcast, my circle center is like tingling.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like, yeah, you're supposed to be here.
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SPEAKER_02: But for a self-projected, like you just have this innate knowing.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, no one, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's always the truth.
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SPEAKER_00: I've always made like, no, I just know, like, this is yes, like, yeah, I I 100% agree.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: That makes sense.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I think that's the beauty of like authorities is you finally realize how to navigate and make decisions.
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SPEAKER_00: And then there's also like the numbers that come in.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, I see even on Instagram, like fives, ones, profiles, this, that.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm like a profile five over one, I don't, or five and one, whatever that means.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: So, what does what does a profile mean?
19:44
SPEAKER_00: And then I guess use mine as an example of five over one of what that means.
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SPEAKER_02: So your profile is essentially like your life's costume.
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SPEAKER_02: So you'll see that your profile also goes in line with your incarnation cost.
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SPEAKER_02: And I kind of like to think of your profile as like this is really just your your costume of life, like where you're meant to be going, how you're meant to be like showing up in your lifetime.
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SPEAKER_02: And then in terms of like a five-one.
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SPEAKER_02: So, as a one, you're an investigator, so you are naturally curious by nature.
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SPEAKER_02: I actually want to pull up your incarnation cross here, and you can actually go through it here on the floor.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, you are naturally very like curious by nature, which means that like for you, research is everything.
20:33
SPEAKER_02: And I don't know if you resonate with that now as well, but a lot of times when I tell people about their profiles, they're like, Yep.
20:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I agree.
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SPEAKER_02: And then with a line five, so I'm actually like pulling up your profile here because I want to show you how this ties into your scrolling down here.
21:01
SPEAKER_02: So with a line five as well, with like your heretic profile, what I actually love about the heretic profiles is it's very much about you can imagine like heretic is about that hero asset, like you're very much here to help and provide a contribution to society.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: So I find that when people know their profiles, especially like a line three, line threes have a very experimental energy.
21:23
SPEAKER_02: So their means to really experiment in society.
21:27
SPEAKER_02: I find that every time, whenever someone comes to me with a line three line three profile, they're like, Oh my god, Kylie, I feel like my life has always been like an amount of fuck-ups, for lack of better words.
21:38
SPEAKER_02: They're like, I always feel like I've been trying something, doesn't work out.
21:41
SPEAKER_02: I try something again, it doesn't work out.
21:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, it's because you're a line three.
21:45
SPEAKER_02: For you, it's about experimenting, it's never about the end destination.
21:48
SPEAKER_02: It's literally you experimenting, you learn.
21:51
SPEAKER_02: So you can show society how to do things differently.
21:54
SPEAKER_02: So your profile even just shows you like really what is your purpose.
21:58
SPEAKER_02: And if we look at your incarnation, Cross, like you have the like the left angle cross of education.
22:04
SPEAKER_02: So knowing that you're here to be for society, you're here to really like provide research, you're really have this very strong energy of guidance.
22:15
SPEAKER_02: Knowing your left angle of education, you're here for to lift society up at the same time.
22:20
SPEAKER_02: It's not really to fulfill your comic mission anymore, but more so you're here to enlighten society with like new ways of being and new thinking.
22:27
SPEAKER_02: So I kind of feel like it really brings it in form, especially if you're in the online space and you're an online entrepreneur, you're like, oh my god, this makes sense why I wanted to push my business in this direction.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: I feel like I'm learning so much.
22:40
SPEAKER_00: See, there's so much people can get from a reading.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: I feel like people would benefit from knowing their human design for everything in their life.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: Because it's not only like business, yeah, like I learned a lot about how I should operate my business, but also my life in general.
22:55
SPEAKER_00: I learned a lot.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: And then I've also learned why my always specific manifest, because now I know that there's non-specific manifestors and specific ones and why some it might people might think, oh, I'm not manifesting, but maybe it's because you're trying to be specific when you're non-specific, or maybe vice versa, you're being non-specific when you have to be specific.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: But for me, I know when I'm specific about my manifestations, they have always come through exactly that.
23:21
SPEAKER_00: Whereas other people like are from Engage or KLM, they they can't be specific.
23:26
SPEAKER_00: But I'm like, no, I want this many clients, I want, you know, this much, like very down to the detail.
23:32
SPEAKER_00: Even when I was thinking about this apartment, I was like, I want floor to ceiling windows, I want a corner unit, I want it to face, you know, southeast, like very, very specific.
23:41
SPEAKER_00: So can you touch even on manifesting and how human design can help you be a more powerful manifestor?
23:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, yeah.
23:48
SPEAKER_02: So I'm a non-specific manifestor.
23:50
SPEAKER_02: So it's actually amazing that we're having this conversation.
23:53
SPEAKER_02: So with even your human design, we can see what type of awareness you have, like if you have strategic awareness or um more of a passive awareness, and then that feeds into like what your design is as or your manifestation style is as well.
24:08
SPEAKER_02: So, like you said, as a specific manifestor, it's really important for you to work on details.
24:14
SPEAKER_02: Like you guys work very well with like vision boards, and really I'd like to say the old school way of manifesting, where like I want five clients by the 5th of May 2021 at this time, it works really well because then you're able to channel your energy towards that.
24:29
SPEAKER_02: Whereas a non-specific manifestor, I'm a non-specific manifestor, I'm very much, we are really more about the embodiment.
24:37
SPEAKER_02: So it's really about manifesting from a place or this or something more.
24:42
SPEAKER_02: It's if you have to tell us, like, look, for example, a specific manifestor would easily say, I want to have a 20k month, and then they channel their energy specifically to that number.
24:52
SPEAKER_02: Whereas a non-specific, immediate, yeah, you live is like, yeah, that's me.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: Where I literally get actions.
24:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, for me, I just like to put out a number to be like, okay, let's play around with 20k, but it's like it's 20 or more.
25:06
SPEAKER_02: We're just playing with the number.
25:07
SPEAKER_02: And then I all that my job to do is then actually reach that embodiment and that frequency to be like, okay, if I was a woman who was playing around with a 20k plus cash month, what would my energy be?
25:19
SPEAKER_02: What would my frequency be?
25:20
SPEAKER_02: And instead of focusing really on doing visualizations or having a specific timeline set or dates, I'm like, cool, for me, it's just about the floor, it's just the embodiment.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's so true.
25:33
SPEAKER_00: Because even when I was remaking my vision board for 2021, I take so many things off of it from 2020 because they just happened because I was a specific, like, and I find so often, I'm like, wow, this is exactly what I envisioned, exactly the number, exactly the everything.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: So it's so interesting.
25:49
SPEAKER_00: And also, what I think would help a lot of people who feel like, oh, manifesting doesn't work for me.
25:54
SPEAKER_00: And like, no, manifesting works for everybody.
25:56
SPEAKER_00: There's just different strategies for different people based on your human design.
26:01
SPEAKER_02: Exactly, exactly.
26:02
SPEAKER_02: And then you can always go deeper, knowing your authority, how you're supposed to be like working in your like design, for example, as you're a projector, you really don't need to be putting in all the work.
26:13
SPEAKER_02: I mean, even our profiles can tell us how to design.
26:15
SPEAKER_02: Um, if you're like a generator or managing, you know that, yeah, putting in the work is actually good for you.
26:21
SPEAKER_02: Like it doesn't mean that you're not detaching from the process, like work when you feel inclined to.
26:27
SPEAKER_02: And a big thing is, even as generators or many gene, we actually experience plateaus.
26:32
SPEAKER_02: Like because we are very strong in our energy, and we're really those worker bees of society, we experience energetic plateaus.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: So I find that this happens so often with me, and I'm sure if anyone's like a generator or many gen listening to this, they can maybe be like, Yeah, I felt this too.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: Where we'll be on this high and everything's working out, and then all of a sudden we experience this lull, and we're just like, What is happening?
26:58
SPEAKER_02: Like everything feels so off.
26:59
SPEAKER_02: But we need to experience those plateaus because it forces us to race so that when we have our next uphill, we have all that energy.
27:07
SPEAKER_02: Where I find projectors just they tend to just go over the floor if you're living in your design, because you just know.
27:13
SPEAKER_00: Yes, that makes sense.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: And then I know there are also gates.
27:18
SPEAKER_00: What do gates mean?
27:21
SPEAKER_02: So we have our different centers, and I kind of like to explain it in the sense of if you had to think of a gate as like a room, your or your center is like a room, your gate is like a light bulb within that room.
27:35
SPEAKER_02: So even though we could let's say if we were all singing a room and we all had activated throat centers or defined throat centers, only we would none of us would have the same expression.
27:46
SPEAKER_02: We wouldn't all have the same light bulbs switched on.
27:50
SPEAKER_02: And essentially, it just shows you how does that center the most strongly express itself.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: God, there's so much detail.
27:58
SPEAKER_00: See, this is why everyone needs a reading with you.
28:01
SPEAKER_00: There's so much information that you get from this little chart about me, but like I'm like, there's an 11-page document, guys.
28:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, that's how much detail is in your human design that I'm looking at from her.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: Like, that's um, yeah, that's so insane.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: So I know I also want to touch on crystal gridding because you mentioned that before we started recording, and I really want to have one done.
28:21
SPEAKER_00: Mention what crystal gridding is with your human design because I know everyone well likes crystals.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: I love crystals, people are asking me lots of crystal questions lately.
28:31
SPEAKER_00: So, how do you incorporate crystals with human design?
28:34
SPEAKER_02: So, this is actually something I haven't seen in like the online space yet, but I've kind of just felt pulled to do because same, I love crystals and it's such a like large part of my work.
28:44
SPEAKER_02: So, a huge thing I think I need to really preface is that your centers, even though they have the same mean, the same naming as your chakras, it's not, they're not the same thing.
28:54
SPEAKER_02: Because essentially, where your head center is at, and let's look at your head, your like your crown chakra is essentially the top of your head, but and your ajana is like your third eye, but your arjana center represents your entire like conscious thinking, it's your entire, like if I like almost like your brain area, where your head centered in human design is like this catalyst that floats on top of like your head, that literally floats on top of your physical head, and is like I'd like to say your catalyst between you and source.
29:27
SPEAKER_02: So it's really important that people know that before I go into like a crystal gridding, how it differs.
29:32
SPEAKER_02: But essentially, what I do is I look at your entire chart as I've written it up and your centers and what they look like, and then I like literally intuitively feel into it to be like, okay, what do like what does Liv need to do if she has an open root center?
29:48
SPEAKER_02: What is going to be the best like stone to make sure that her root chakra is always grounded?
29:54
SPEAKER_02: So it's like an intuitive process that I've now started to develop in terms of your charts, uniquely how it expresses itself, but also your energy.
30:03
SPEAKER_02: And then I literally map out for all your centers and give you a guideline on what are the crystals that vibrate the best with what's actually happening in your design.
30:13
SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah, we definitely, I'm gonna get you to do this for me because I need to get done.
30:16
SPEAKER_00: I want to know what specific crystals I need for because I know I probably need some grounding.
30:22
SPEAKER_00: Also, because I tend to gravitate away from like the root ones, like what or the citrine, the red jasper.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know, I'm always like wanting the more pretty, like higher, like apophylate, amethyst, rose cords, and I always avoid the like lower ones.
30:39
SPEAKER_02: That's like all your defined centers, and it's most likely because the thing is we also attract.
30:45
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we haven't even gone into what defined and undefined centers of people, probably like, oh sorry.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, like your defined centers are essentially your trusted energy sources, and then your undefined centers, you'll see they usually aren't colored in in your chart.
30:59
SPEAKER_02: They just they're not really a stable, consistent energy source.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: So it's not really it's not wise for you to operate from that place.
31:06
SPEAKER_02: So I find a lot of people's open head centers tend to operate purely from a head center where they make decisions from their head and not from like they're really from their heart or their authority.
31:15
SPEAKER_02: So it just gives you a good guideline to be like, okay, check-in points.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: Am I really living by my design?
31:21
SPEAKER_02: So interesting for you, the fact is we actually get triggered very easily from our open centers, but we also attract from our open centers.
31:30
SPEAKER_02: So you almost likely attract people into your space if you've got an open root center that have defined root centers because that energy just merges and it kind of just brings a synchronicity.
31:39
SPEAKER_02: So it's interesting that you're even like a little bit drawn away from a separate pulse, and that's a very strong word, but you're not really drawn to any root like crystals where you've got that defined upper end of your spectrum, which explains why you love your lighter crystals like apophyllite.
31:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm also addicted, like Hercomer diamonds.
31:59
SPEAKER_02: I love a Hercimer diamond, so yeah, it's it's beautiful to see how it actually correlates with your target.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: And I know that human design can also impact like your health and the way you eat, and it can also like because everyone is different, and like depending on if you're open or defined, you should have more grounding things or etc.
32:20
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
32:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so like I haven't gone very deep into the eating, only for myself.
32:27
SPEAKER_02: So I know for example, with um with manifesting generators and generators are the same, we don't like rules.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: So, which is interesting because if I think back of it now, like I come from a bodybuilding background, so I mean consistency rules, routines for my life, but we don't operate from that.
32:46
SPEAKER_02: That's not our authentic expression.
32:48
SPEAKER_02: So for us, like diets, strict eating times doesn't actually facilitate and actually complement our energy the best.
32:56
SPEAKER_02: We need to intuitively eat when we need to.
32:58
SPEAKER_02: Some days we won't eat at all because our energy is operating fine, other days we need to eat more.
33:03
SPEAKER_02: So, like, I do know that there are very good resources, and I can always give you links if people are interested.
33:09
SPEAKER_02: But it's just it's interesting to see how your human design even goes into the way like you eat and the way you expend your energy and what exercises you should be doing.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: Now, being like open is open, isn't inherently bad, correct?
33:24
SPEAKER_00: No, no, yeah, because I feel like I always think, oh, because my lower leg sink is open, it's like open to problems.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: Is that like somewhat true?
33:34
SPEAKER_02: No, no, it just doesn't have like a consistent flow of energy.
33:39
SPEAKER_02: And I always say, like, what is the gift you can learn from this?
33:42
SPEAKER_02: So, for example, with your open root center, I've got an open root center too.
33:46
SPEAKER_02: Like, one of the things is we don't know when enough is enough, and we also feel restless really quickly.
33:51
SPEAKER_02: So, for us, it's just like, cool, I just know that like my routines, my grounding is really important for me.
33:56
SPEAKER_02: But at the same time, people usually come to me when they want to feel more capacity or expansion because I've got that open center.
34:04
SPEAKER_02: So it's not bad, like at all.
34:07
SPEAKER_00: Okay, that makes sense.
34:09
SPEAKER_00: I cannot wait for the crystal grid.
34:11
SPEAKER_00: Once she does it for me, guys, I will post what it and that's like which one I would need for each, right?
34:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what you need, and it's usually sometimes even more than one comes through to me, and then I like I pop in all of them for you.
34:24
SPEAKER_00: And then so once you have the grid, what would I hypothetically like do with this grid?
34:28
SPEAKER_00: This means I need to like hold them, like work with them.
34:31
SPEAKER_00: Is that what it is?
34:33
SPEAKER_02: It's really like almost like a tumblestone like pack that you can then carry with you.
34:37
SPEAKER_02: And then I also tell you, according to your authority, like what is your prime crystal?
34:42
SPEAKER_02: And then I'm like, this is actually something you always want to carry with you.
34:45
SPEAKER_02: So you can either meditate with these crystals if you're just like, oh my god, yes, I need this.
34:51
SPEAKER_02: I need it.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: Um, and even like in terms of if you're feeling restless, I'd be like, Oh, this is your crystal for like your roots, or for a sphenic center, if you've got a lot of like fears that are all of a sudden just popping up, like these are already prime crystals for you.
35:03
SPEAKER_02: So it's it's very unique because the click I had is I realized that, like you said, I was also gravitating towards certain crystals.
35:11
SPEAKER_02: And then the moment I looked at my design, I'm like, but wait, I see a coronation.
35:15
SPEAKER_02: And everyone that I've done it for so far were like the moment I put in those crystals in the grid, they're like, these are all the crystals I almost like 90% already have because I've just always gravitated towards them.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is so interesting.
35:29
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: What else about human design do you feel like people should know or would be interesting, or anything like cool that you've experienced because of human design or changes you've noticed because people have implemented their human design, etc.
35:44
SPEAKER_02: I would say one thing is like when you do go into human design, see it as an experiment.
35:49
SPEAKER_02: Like don't think that it's something to box you in.
35:53
SPEAKER_02: Um Ra even said this in his teachings, he's like, human design is purely an experiment.
35:58
SPEAKER_02: Like it is literally just a way for you to actually have a life with more ease because we're not made to be living living and suffering.
36:05
SPEAKER_02: And I think that human design really gives us the permission so to operate in a better way.
36:09
SPEAKER_02: And if I think that even just the changes I've seen with people, it's been really phenomenal.
36:15
SPEAKER_02: Like I don't even know where to start.
36:17
SPEAKER_02: I think the biggest thing that really is beautiful thing with human design is in terms of business, people start showing up more authentically in their business.
36:24
SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, I realized and I I've had a conversation with a few people as well that are many jeans, where we hate a quarterly planner.
36:34
SPEAKER_02: Like, do not tell me to plan my quarters, do not tell me to what do you want to make in this month?
36:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, how many clients does that equal?
36:40
SPEAKER_02: How many spots?
36:41
SPEAKER_02: It like it just sucks up my juju.
36:44
SPEAKER_02: Like, to be quite honest.
36:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I don't want to look at that.
36:47
SPEAKER_02: Where every mentor I've worked with, because it's not wrong, but every mentor I've worked with has been like, Heidi, we need to plan your quarters.
36:53
SPEAKER_02: Where I was just stubborn and I never did it.
36:54
SPEAKER_02: So I think the beauty of it is like everyone is like, oh my God, I finally understand how to run my business.
37:00
SPEAKER_02: I finally, I mean, you can go so far as to I can do a chart of you and your partner, and I literally merge the two and I can tell you about compatibility.
37:09
SPEAKER_02: Like, where do you guys trigger each other?
37:11
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, can you just like briefly go more into that?
37:14
SPEAKER_00: Because I feel like everyone listening is gonna be like, oh my god, I need that with like my partner or my boyfriend or whatever.
37:20
SPEAKER_00: So does that mean like if I have an open center and like I'm more compatible with someone who probably has a closed center, closed lower, yes, something like that?
37:32
SPEAKER_02: So essentially I could merge the two charts.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we could even do it with like if you have your children to see how your energies work, and then it literally just fares how your energies synchronize with each other.
37:43
SPEAKER_02: It's like a combined reading, and I literally tell you as a unit, how do you operate?
37:48
SPEAKER_02: Like, what are your strengths as a unit?
37:50
SPEAKER_02: So it's so beautiful to see like the depths you can go with human design.
37:54
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I've been training in it since about November.
37:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm currently currently in like a quantum human design certification.
38:01
SPEAKER_02: And we're gonna go even further into like gene keys, reading iTunes, like it goes so in depth that I can truthfully say I don't think even in this lifetime I'll ever master the practice of human design because it is just like there is so much to it.
38:16
SPEAKER_02: It's it's all so.
38:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure then you could also tell that, like, if a relationship was a rocky, you're having trouble.
38:23
SPEAKER_00: Oh, maybe that's because this is open and your thingy is whatever, and that why that's why it clashes.
38:29
SPEAKER_00: So you need to do X, Y, or at least acknowledge that because this person has this whatever, and this person this way.
38:36
SPEAKER_00: Now you understand.
38:38
SPEAKER_00: Because, like you said, human design doesn't change.
38:41
SPEAKER_00: Like you're born this way, those those things are gonna be fixed, and understanding that in a relationship is gonna be huge, probably.
38:48
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
38:48
SPEAKER_02: Like your human design doesn't change, your expression of your energy, like you're saying hers, changes every single second because obviously the planets are continuously moving, so you might find that one day your authority expression is like incredibly strong, the next day it's not as much.
39:04
SPEAKER_02: It's not to say that there's something inherently wrong with you or you're doing something wrong, just know that your expressions within your chart may sometimes shift just because the planets change and like they're always changing in alignment, but the entirety of your expression of human design remains fixed.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: Okay, the next time I get into a relationship, I'm asking for their birth.
39:23
SPEAKER_00: Well, I was gonna also gonna ask for the rising and moon sign, but definitely also for their human design because like that to me is so interesting.
39:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah, and anything more that you want to share before I get you to let people know where they can find you.
39:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, I don't even I feel like I know we can talk about hours, but all the different things are thinking about all the things with human design.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: I know it's really dense, and this is probably a lot of information for anyone to absorb in general because we talked about like all the different types, this open that.
39:53
SPEAKER_00: So I feel like we did give people a lot to kind of like probably digest and probably have to listen to this more than once.
39:59
SPEAKER_02: Um I feel like I even have to like cut off myself to be like, okay, just stop there because if you carry on talking, it's gonna be confusing.
40:05
SPEAKER_02: But I think the biggest like nugget I can leave people with with human design, if you're just getting started, is focus on your type and your authority.
40:15
SPEAKER_02: And even like I would say your like not self and then your self-theme.
40:20
SPEAKER_02: So, like your not self-theme is how you know if you're not operating in alignment.
40:24
SPEAKER_02: Like for you, I know it's bitterness, like you'll feel bitter about something.
40:26
SPEAKER_02: I feel frustrated as fuck.
40:28
SPEAKER_02: Um, as a managing, if you're in alignment, I know that, like, for example, managing feel a bunch, like we feel very satisfied with the work that we're doing, and that's how you know like you're in alignment.
40:41
SPEAKER_02: So focus purely on those those aspects.
40:45
SPEAKER_02: Once you feel you've mastered that, you understand how your authority works, you understand what it feels like to operate in your true self and like not in your not-self, then go into your profile incarnation cross, and I'd say then dive into your centers and take everyone's each psych center step by step because it goes so deep, it can be very overwhelming.
41:06
SPEAKER_02: Um, and very much so I find like we can even go like into gene keys, which I mean that is a podcast we can do on its own because that is I've literally got the gene key of entrepreneurship in me.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: And I hate all of it.
41:17
SPEAKER_02: I've never been in the 90s back and nine to five, I've always feared it, and it's in my gene keys to be an entrepreneur.
41:22
SPEAKER_02: So that is like a podcast we could even do like on its own.
41:28
SPEAKER_02: But I'd say before you dip into those things, understand your tie first.
41:32
SPEAKER_02: Because I find that the moment people know, like even when I did your chart, and we can even do an updated version of your chart if you want.
41:38
SPEAKER_02: When I did your chart, I purely just gave you a defined centers.
41:41
SPEAKER_02: And the reason why I'm like, when you're starting with human design and you know about like, oh shit, these are all my undefined centers, what we then tend to do is we try to avoid it because we don't understand fully what the capacity of like our undefined centers are, and then we start operating more in our undefined centers.
41:57
SPEAKER_02: So take it like step by step, knowing that this is like your life, you have your entire life to live by your design, and it's just an experiment.
42:04
SPEAKER_02: It's just for you to know how to live life more by ease and in their suffering.
42:09
SPEAKER_00: Okay, that makes sense.
42:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was even a lot for me to digest of these 11 pages.
42:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, this is a lot of specific information.
42:16
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so people, I'm sure there are people feeling called to work with you or reach out.
42:20
SPEAKER_00: How do you work with people?
42:22
SPEAKER_00: Um, what do you offer them?
42:23
SPEAKER_00: Kind of like pimp yourself out.
42:25
SPEAKER_00: Where can they find you?
42:27
SPEAKER_02: So Instagram would be the best.
42:29
SPEAKER_02: It's at Kylie double underscore Nell.
42:32
SPEAKER_02: Um, and if you want to have a reading done with me, I don't offer these openly anymore, just by referrals.
42:38
SPEAKER_02: So you can just literally pop me a DM, tell me you listened to Lib's podcast um and you'd like to have a reading done.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, and I will gladly do it for you because it's not something I do openly anymore.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, and then yeah, they can find me there and then ask me any questions they have.
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SPEAKER_02: And then obviously we go into specifics.
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SPEAKER_02: Like I also make sure that if you've got any questions in life per se, I do general like readings as well as for business that I also tailor your design reading to answer those questions for you to make sure that you just make those one degree shifts to bring you closer into alignment.
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SPEAKER_00: Perfect.
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SPEAKER_00: And you have a podcast that is launching, yes, launch.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, we are finally launching it like this month, like oh my god.
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SPEAKER_02: But that's gonna be the Moon Alchemy podcast.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm excited, you're also gonna be there for that.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I will link all of that and her podcast down below where you can follow her website, all of that.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for being on.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm sure people learned a lot.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, and it was so great to have you.
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SPEAKER_02: I love being here.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Ben.