Latest / Success Story with Scott Clary / Lessons - You Have 40 Visits Left With Your Parents (Scott)
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- 0:00In this lessons episode, we're talking about the math that nobody wants to do.
- 0:03How much time you actually have left with the people that you love?
- 0:06If you've been telling yourself, there's always next year to visit your parents.
- 0:09If you assume you have decades left, when you might only have a dozen visits,
- 0:13if you've let geography or busy schedules make all of your relationship decisions for you,
- 0:18this one's for you. I'll show you why you've already spent 90% of the time you will ever spend
- 0:23with your parents. But the actual numbers look like when you do the math and how to make conscious
- 0:27choices about how you spend time with your loved ones. So when you do spend time with them,
- 0:32you can be intentional, fully there, and just present.
- 0:39You want to hear something messed up. By the time you're 35,
- 0:43you're going to have experienced 90% plus of the total time that you will ever have with most
- 0:50people who actually matter to you. Let me explain how this math makes sense.
- 0:54Last week, I was interviewing a CEO for my podcast when we got onto the topic of work,
- 0:59life balance. And I mentioned something that I'd read from Tim Urban. He's a blogger.
- 1:03Once you move out of your parents house, you've already spent about 90% of the total time
- 1:09that you'll ever spend with them. And my guest, the CEO, he stopped mid-sentence. He's like,
- 1:14that can't be right. So we did the math together. His parents were 74. He was 47. He saw them every
- 1:19other month for a weekend. And after pulling out his calculator, he went pale. 48. That's the
- 1:25number. 48. He figured it out on his calculator. If he was lucky, he would have 48 more visits
- 1:32with his parents before they passed away. And we finished up the interview. He cancelled
- 1:37everything that he had on that afternoon. And he drove straight to his parents house.
- 1:41And we were texting later that evening. And he texted me a photo from his parents dining room.
- 1:45He said, I just drove three hours to see them. It was worth it. Now, let's talk about how this
- 1:49calculation actually works. So I just said 90% of your time is gone. Sounds like clickbait,
- 1:55but the math is actually surprisingly straightforward and scary. Let's say you're 35 and your parents
- 2:01are 70 years old. So for the first 18 years of your life from being born to 18 years old,
- 2:06you lived with your parents, right? So even if we conservatively estimate that you spent just
- 2:11three hours of quality time together per day, say meals, conversations, homework, help,
- 2:15driving places, that's about 1095 hours per year. Over 18 years, that's 19,700 and 10 hours.
- 2:22And to be honest, three hours is probably low. You think about weekends,
- 2:26number of vacations, family trips, the real number is probably much higher. After you move
- 2:30out, if you're like most people, this was the dramatic shift, right? So college meant seeing
- 2:35them on breaks, maybe 60 days a year at first, and then you got a job, then you met someone,
- 2:40and you had kids of your own. So now you see them what? Like once a month, if you live nearby,
- 2:44every few months, if you're across the country, and let's be generous and say it's 10 days per year
- 2:49total, holidays, birthdays, occasional visits. And during those visits, between work calls and
- 2:54managing your own kids and the general chaos of life, maybe you get six hours of real quality
- 3:00time per day. So that's 60 hours per year. And if your parents lift 85, 15 more years, that's 900
- 3:06hours remaining. So that means that your total lifetime hours are 20,610 hours with your parents.
- 3:12You've already spent 19,700 and 10 hours with them. So the percentage that you've already used
- 3:18is 95.6%. Now, these numbers are going to vary based on your situation. Maybe you call every day,
- 3:24maybe you live next door, maybe you're estranged, but for most people who've moved away from home,
- 3:29the pattern is identical. The vast majority of time with your parents happens in the first 18 years.
- 3:35Now, when I first speak about this math, people push back right away. And the responses are very
- 3:40predictable, right? But I talk to my mom every day or we're closer now than when I was a teenager,
- 3:45or quality matters more than quantity. All true and all missing the point. A daily phone call is
- 3:50wonderful. It maintains a connection, the emotional intimacy, the shared life, but a 10 minute call
- 3:57isn't the same as living in the same house. It's not breakfast together before school. It's not
- 4:02teaching you how to drive. It's not falling asleep on the couch watching movies. See, the
- 4:07relationship might be better now. Many people grow closer to their parents as adults, but closer
- 4:12doesn't mean more time. You can have a deeper relationship with less actual contact. In fact,
- 4:16that's what most of us have, but you still have less time with them. Now, here's something that I
- 4:22actually didn't understand until very recently. Time moves differently depending on where you are in
- 4:28life. So this is also something that is a little bit scary to think about. When you're 10, a year
- 4:33is 10% of your entire existence. So summer vacation feels endless. And the school it drags on forever
- 4:39because again, it's such a significant amount of your existence. When you're 40, a year is 2.5%
- 4:46of your life. So you blink and your kid went from crawling to kindergarten, but here's the cruel part.
- 4:51While time speeds up for you, it's racing for your parents. So your mom is 70. The next five years
- 4:58represent a huge chunk of her remaining life. Her health could change, her memory could fade,
- 5:03her energy is definitely going to decline. Now, you're 40. So the next five years, you barely
- 5:08notice them pass. Your life is busy, full demanding. You are in the thick of career and kids and
- 5:13mortgage payments. And this asymmetry creates this very painful gap. The years when your parents need
- 5:18you most, their 70s and their 80s are the exact years when you're busiest with your own life.
- 5:24And there's another problem on top of this time asymmetry. Let's talk about geography. In 1940,
- 5:2990% of Americans died in the same state where they were born. Today, that's less than 60%.
- 5:35We're more mobile than ever. And that mobility has a cost that we don't usually calculate. So if you
- 5:41live next door to your parents, which is becoming increasingly rare, you might see them multiple times
- 5:46per week. Like quick dinners, weekend coffees, they watch the kids say, call it 100 plus days per
- 5:52year of contact. Which would mean you get a lot more time than that math I just did. You live in the
- 5:56same city, 30 minutes away. That means weekly dinners become biweekly, monthly becomes every month,
- 6:01and you're down to 40, 50 days per year. If you live in a different city, maybe say a two-hour drive,
- 6:06well now it requires planning. So we can visit every month or two holidays, maybe 20 to 30 days per
- 6:12year. If you're in a different state, there's a flight required, well everything becomes an event.
- 6:16Thanksgiving, Christmas, maybe a summer vacation, and you're at 10 to 15 days per year if you're
- 6:21diligent. And if you're in a different country, you might see them once or twice a year, a week,
- 6:26each time if you're lucky. So each jump in distance roughly halves your contact. Once you need a
- 6:32plane ticket, spontaneous visits disappear entirely. And more and more people are living, again,
- 6:38not down the street from their parents. Now, once you start to understand this framework,
- 6:42you're going to see it in all your relationships. So your children, you get about 18 years of daily
- 6:48contact. That is roughly 6,570 days. And after they move out, if you see them weekly, and you won't,
- 6:55once they have their own families, that's 52 days a year. You'll spend more time with them in their
- 6:59first five years than in the 30 years after they turn 20. But that could be healthy. Your kids
- 7:05need to build their own lives. The reduction in time often correlates with their own growth
- 7:10into independence, but just know that there will be less time. Just be aware of it and savor and
- 7:14be present with your siblings, right? You share 18 years under one roof, probably annoying each other
- 7:20daily, and then everyone scatters. Holiday gatherings, weddings, maybe a shared vacation, the siblings
- 7:25you fought with every day become someone who you see 10 times a year. And then sometimes that
- 7:31distance improves the relationship. You become friends instead of forced roommates. But again,
- 7:36just be present when you have that time with them. College friends, right? Four years of basically
- 7:41living together, every meal is shared, every stupid decision made together at 2 a.m., and then
- 7:46graduation hits, and you'll scatter to different cities and different careers and different lives.
- 7:51And the group chat stays active, but the actual gatherings twice a year if you're exceptional
- 7:57at planning. And then the work friends, right? You spend more waking hours with colleagues
- 8:02than family. Five days a week, eight hours a day for years. And then someone gets a new job,
- 8:08and then you never see them again for the rest of your life, right? That person who you ate lunch
- 8:11with 200 times a year becomes someone who maybe you text them on their birthday. And this isn't meant
- 8:17to be tragic. It's just meant to be something you're aware of. Some relationships are meant to be
- 8:21intense, but temporary. Others are meant to be occasional, but permanent. The problem is,
- 8:26we don't usually choose consciously. We just let geography and circumstance and time and life decide.
- 8:32And I think it's just really important to be purposeful, and to understand that when you're with
- 8:36somebody, be with them, be present, because there's a chance that that's going to be the last time
- 8:41that you're with that person, or at the very least, the last time where you spend as much time
- 8:46with that person. Now, I've shared this idea with hundreds of podcast guests, thousands of
- 8:50newsletter readers, friends, family, and the response falls into very predictable categories,
- 8:56right? So there's sort of four ways to respond to this information, because it is heavy information.
- 9:01Group one denies it, right? There are about 30% of people say, well, this is too depressing
- 9:05to think about. They change nothing. They're the same people who don't look at their credit card
- 9:09statements, and then they wonder why they're in debt. Second group of people is panic, right?
- 9:13But 15% of people panic, right? I need to quit my job, move back home, right? And they make
- 9:16these dramatic, unsustainable changes, and they last for about three months for reality sets in,
- 9:21because you can't actually pause your entire life, and your parents don't want you to. Group three,
- 9:26third group is guilt, about 40% of people feel guilty as hell. I'm a terrible son and daughter,
- 9:31and they spiral into this self-recrimination, but they don't actually change anything. They just
- 9:36feel bad every time they see their parents, which makes them want to visit less, which makes them
- 9:40feel worse. And the last group is adjustment. About 15% of people actually understand what this
- 9:45means, and they're more intentional with the time they have with the people that they love, and
- 9:49they make these small, very specific, sustainable changes. And the fourth group, this adjustment
- 9:55group, it interests me most. This is how I think most people should react to the information that
- 10:01they only have a finite amount of time with the people that they actually love left. So what does
- 10:05this group do? They schedule regular calls, and they treat them as unmovable appointments. Not just,
- 10:10oh, hopefully we jump on a call this week, and no, it is something that is set in stone. They put
- 10:15their phones away during visits, completely away, not just face down. They plan regular trips,
- 10:19instead of vague, we should get together trips. They say yes to invitations, they normally skip. They
- 10:24ask more questions, especially about the past. They show interest in people who they love. They
- 10:30record conversations, they take more photos, they save voice mails, and they move closer, not next
- 10:35door, but maybe from a plane ride to a car ride, and they include their parents in their life,
- 10:40instead of just visiting their parents' life. Small changes. But when you only have 900 hours left,
- 10:46an extra phone call per week, that's 26 hours per year, is nearly 3% of your remaining time.
- 10:52Now, if you really want to feel the weight of these numbers, go visit a nursing home. This is
- 10:56what you're going to hear. You're going to hear things like, my son lives 20 minutes away,
- 11:00I see him on Christmas, or my daughter is very busy, very important job. I understand,
- 11:04or the grandkids probably don't remember me. It's been a few years, and the saddest part is
- 11:09the adult children probably think they're doing well. They usually think they're doing well. If you ask
- 11:15these people in the nursing home, if you ask their kids, how is their relationship with their
- 11:21parents? They're going to say things like, well, I call every month, or I visit on holidays. Every
- 11:25month, holidays. To someone was maybe 20 months left. If you do the math, I broke this down for
- 11:31somebody in my grandma's nursing home, and a resident actually did the math for me. She said,
- 11:36I have maybe 500 days left. My daughter visits four times a year. That's maybe 10 more visits.
- 11:4110 more times, I'll see my only child before I die. She thinks she's doing great because she calls
- 11:47on my birthday. I'm not telling you these numbers or asking you to do this math so you can be sad and
- 11:54depressed. I'm not telling you to quit your job and move back to your hometown. I'm not saying you
- 11:58should feel guilty about living your own life. I'm not even saying you need to change anything.
- 12:02Some people genuinely need distance from their families, and some relationships are toxic. Some
- 12:07parents were absent. Some parents were abusive. Some families function better with space. If that's
- 12:11you, the math doesn't apply the same way, and that's okay. But if you have parents who you love,
- 12:17and who love you, and you're operating under the assumption that there's always next year,
- 12:21well, maybe there is, but not as many years as you think. So the question shouldn't be,
- 12:26how do I maximize every relationship? Question is, am I making conscious choices about how I spend
- 12:32my time, or am I letting life make those choices for me? So if you're listening to this, and this is
- 12:38concerning to you, here's a few practical things that actually work. After years of conversations about
- 12:43this topic, these are some changes you can make in your life that people actually stick with. So
- 12:48the Sunday call, pick a time every week, same time. Don't negotiate with yourself, don't skip it
- 12:52when you're busy, especially don't skip it when you're busy. Monthly visit, if you live within
- 12:55driving distance, again, kind of like the call, pick a day, first Saturday, last Sunday, whatever,
- 13:00make it recurring, the regularity matters more than the frequency. The grandkids face time,
- 13:05if you have kids and distant parents, set up a weekly video call, same time every week, even if it's
- 13:09just 10 minutes, your parents don't care if the kids are crankier if the house is a mess. Also,
- 13:13you can do a question project. So every time you visit, ask about something specific from the past,
- 13:18record the answer, you can say things like, tell me about your first job, how did you meet your best
- 13:22friend? What was your dad like? These stories disappear when people die, and also shared activity,
- 13:28find something to do together, watch the same TV show and discuss it, read the same book, follow
- 13:32the same sports team, share something beyond just updates about your life, and the preemptive yes,
- 13:38when they invite you to something, default to yes instead of no. You can always cancel if you
- 13:43really need to, but starting with yes, changes the dynamic. So after listening to this, I want you
- 13:49to try something. I want you to pick one relationship that really matters to you and be specific.
- 13:53You could be your parent, your sister, your brother doesn't matter. How old are they right now?
- 13:56And how often do you see them? And be honest, how many hours do you visit when you actually connect?
- 14:01And then based on average life expectancy, how many years do they have left? And then multiply
- 14:06visits per year times remaining years. And that's your number. Write it down. The actual number,
- 14:11not the lots of time left, but write down approximately 73 more visits if that's your number.
- 14:16And then ask yourself, am I okay with this? If yes, good. Now you know you've made a conscious
- 14:21choice. If no, then what specifically are you going to do to change? It's not spend more time
- 14:26together, but it could be visit monthly instead of quarterly, or it could be call weekly instead of
- 14:32monthly, or it could be move to the same city by next year. The vague intentions don't change
- 14:36anything, but knowing you have 73 visits instead of decades, that might change something.
- 14:41So this leads us to the truth that really nobody wants to talk about. Your parents also probably
- 14:46think about this more than you do. They're doing their own math. They know their friends are dying.
- 14:50They feel that their bodies are changing. They see their time horizon, but they won't tell you.
- 14:53They don't want to guilt you. They don't want to be a burden. They're proud of your busy life.
- 14:57Your important job, your beautiful family. So they wait for your calls and they cherish your visits,
- 15:02and they pretend they're not disappointed when you cancel. But you know what? Your mom's counting,
- 15:06your dad's counting, your grandma and grandpa. They're still alive. They're counting. They're all
- 15:10counting. Look, time is going to pass either way. The math is going to work out however it works out.
- 15:15You can know the numbers or not know them, but they're still there and they take away in the
- 15:19background. The difference is consciousness. Knowing that this might be one of only 40 more
- 15:24Christmases changes how you experience Christmas. Knowing this might be one of only 100 more phone calls
- 15:30changes how you handle the call. It doesn't mean every interaction has to be profound. It doesn't mean
- 15:35you need to cry every time you say goodbye. It just means you're awake to what's happening. Because
- 15:40one day, and this is the only guarantee in life, one day it will be the last time, the last visit,
- 15:47the last call, the last I love you. And when that day comes, you're either going to think I'm so
- 15:52grateful for the time we had or you're going to think I wish I'd known how little time there was.
- 15:58The math doesn't care which one you choose, but you will. The clock's ticking either way. At least
- 16:03now you know how fast.