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Paul Spain: Gorilla Technology CEO on Australia establishing Government AI office · Best of Business

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  Speaker 2: So the Aussie government has outlined a world first AI policy.
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  Speaker 2: They want to fast track new data centers, give ossie
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  Speaker 2: artists greater protection over their work and protect them from
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  Speaker 2: AI scraping. Paul Spain is the CEO and a futurist
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  Speaker 2: at Guerrilla Technology and with us Hi Paul Hi, Hannah,
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  Speaker 2: what are they predominantly worried about here? What do you
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  Speaker 2: get from albanezy speech? Is it loss of jobs or
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  Speaker 2: loss of copyright?
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  Speaker 3: Look, I think the copyright side they're really they're really
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  Speaker 3: leaning into and this is partly because it has has
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  Speaker 3: a financial impact and yeah, that ultimately puts Dobbs at risk.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so how do you actually stop this from happening? Like,
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  Speaker 2: what are the regulations they can come up with?
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean they haven't really given a lot
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  Speaker 3: of detail at the stage, so it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: interesting to see how it plays out. But I think
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  Speaker 3: the wanting to have more control over the big global
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  Speaker 3: AI players as it comes to Australian created content, and
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  Speaker 3: they're going to really, you know, put their foot down
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  Speaker 3: on on that basis, And you know, I guess we
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  Speaker 3: think of all sorts of things are generated by AI.
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  Speaker 3: But if you know, for instance, look at music, what
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  Speaker 3: they're not going to probably not going to tolerate is
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  Speaker 3: music that is is too obvious as a ripoff of
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  Speaker 3: Australian music. And we would see that across in a
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  Speaker 3: whole range of areas when it comes to when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to AI, Paul.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say, let's say AI makes a song and it
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  Speaker 2: sounds a hell of a lot like do the locomotion?
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  Speaker 2: What's Albaneze going to do about it?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, when it comes down to individual cases,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know how that will actually play out.
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  Speaker 3: Can you actually do that?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Is it even possible?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly? Is this not the same thing as the B
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  Speaker 2: S A and News even trying to police the internet
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to the Internet. It's so bloody heart
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  Speaker 2: to do this stuff. And Albanesi is probably just virtue signaling.
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  Speaker 3: Well that that could be the case. I guess, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it'll come down to what they actually come up with,
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  Speaker 3: because we've really got the you know, the political announcement
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  Speaker 3: today without really seeing the full detail of how this
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  Speaker 3: will play out.
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  Speaker 2: What do you make though of the data centers. That's fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: So they want to fast track the data centers, but
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  Speaker 2: they want to restrict the water use. What's going on there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think that this is one of the
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  Speaker 3: concerns that people that are having. You know, we've seen
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  Speaker 3: a lot of pushback in the US against data centers,
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  Speaker 3: you know, AI data centers appearing in different regions because
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  Speaker 3: it uses up a lot of water and power, and
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  Speaker 3: so as there's that requirement on the companies that are
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  Speaker 3: establishing the data centers to actually sort the power, sort
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  Speaker 3: the water so it doesn't push up local prices and
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  Speaker 3: have an impact. You know, that's something I think then
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  Speaker 3: becomes a net positive to have these data centers coming
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  Speaker 3: into the country.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Paul, thanks very much. Always appreciate your expertise.
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  Speaker 2: Paul Spain, Guerrilla Technology CEO and Futurist.
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