Latest / The Money and Banking Law Podcast with Joe Silvia / New Administration, New Regulations
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the Dwayne Morris Money
- 0:03and Banking Law Podcast with Joe Silvia, brought
- 0:05to you by the global law firm of Dwayne Morris.
- 0:07I'm your host, Joe Silvia. I'm a former Federal
- 0:10Reserve lawyer who represents banks, fintechs,
- 0:13and other clients on M &A, payments, and regulatory
- 0:15matters at Dwayne Morris. I'm also a core member
- 0:18of our banking, fintech, and digital assets and
- 0:22blockchain practices. The goal of the Dwayne
- 0:24Morris Money and Banking Law podcast is to inform
- 0:27and educate our clients and friends on both the
- 0:29fundamental concepts and structure of the banking
- 0:31ecosystem, as well as critical developments in
- 0:35the law and regulation of money and banking.
- 0:37On this episode, we're talking about a few of
- 0:40the most significant changes in bank regulation
- 0:42in 2025. We want to talk and focus today on a
- 0:47few of the regulatory changes that we've seen
- 0:48since the second Trump administration took office
- 0:51in 2025. We'll touch on regulatory and policy
- 0:55changes related to cryptocurrency, digital assets,
- 0:58bank innovation, bank M &A, and some more related
- 1:03issues with respect to examination, enforcement,
- 1:07and regulation in the consumer finance space.
- 1:11First and foremost, we've got to discuss the
- 1:14significant focus and amount of policy and regulatory
- 1:16action we've seen with respect to crypto and
- 1:19digital assets. It's clear that the president
- 1:22wants the U .S. to be the quote -unquote crypto
- 1:25capital of the world. But it's also clear that
- 1:27in implementing a policy focus on expanding access
- 1:31and use of certain cryptocurrencies and digital
- 1:34assets, the administration is heavily supportive
- 1:37of integrating the digital assets, the digital
- 1:41asset ecosystem, cryptocurrencies generally,
- 1:44payment cryptocurrencies like stablecoins and
- 1:47such into the traditional banking structure and
- 1:52banking ecosystem in the United States. Now,
- 1:55we already talked about updates to kind of crypto
- 1:57policy in light of the Genius Act and focus on
- 2:00stable coins in our first episode. So here, I
- 2:03just want to touch briefly on some of what we've
- 2:05seen from the banking agencies in this space.
- 2:07More specifically, I want to touch very briefly
- 2:10on what we've seen from the OCC over the last
- 2:12few years in the form of interpretive letters.
- 2:16In the previous administration, the OCC issued
- 2:19interpretive letters 1170, 1172, 1174, and 1179.
- 2:25Each of these interpretive letters addressed
- 2:28different sub -segments within the cryptocurrency
- 2:31ecosystem. For example, interpretive letter 1170
- 2:35addressed the ability and authority for a national
- 2:38bank to provide certain cryptocurrency custody
- 2:41services for its customers. OCC Interpretive
- 2:45Letter No. 1172 was an OCC Chief Counsel's interpretation
- 2:49on the authority for national banks and federal
- 2:53savings associations to hold stablecoin reserves,
- 2:56the funding or the money that supports the stablecoin.
- 3:01OCC interpretive letter 1174, again, an OCC chief
- 3:05counsel's interpretation, this time focused on
- 3:08the authority of national banks and federal savings
- 3:10associations to use independent node verification
- 3:13networks and stable coins for payment activities.
- 3:17Finally, OCC interpretive letter number 1179,
- 3:21chief counsel's interpretation, this one clarifies
- 3:25the authority of a bank, a national bank, to
- 3:28engage in certain cryptocurrency activities,
- 3:30and then secondly, the authority of the OCC to
- 3:33charter a national trust bank. In addition to
- 3:38these interpretive letters, in 2021, we saw a
- 3:42joint statement on crypto asset policy sprint
- 3:45initiatives and next steps. The goal was to provide
- 3:50greater clarity, quote unquote, on whether certain
- 3:53activities related to crypto assets conducted
- 3:56by banking organizations were legally permissible.
- 3:59So in this publication from the agencies, we
- 4:02saw crypto assets, safekeeping, custody services,
- 4:05facilitating payments and purchases of crypto
- 4:08assets, loans that are collateralized by crypto
- 4:12assets like Bitcoin and other crypto assets.
- 4:17issuance and distribution of stable coins, and
- 4:20then some additional activities involving actually
- 4:23holding crypto assets on a bank's balance sheet.
- 4:27Since President Trump retook office, the second
- 4:30administration has been on a crypto sprint to
- 4:33try and make sure that the U .S. is the crypto
- 4:35capital of the world, and they're trying to do
- 4:37it in a number of ways. He's issued executive
- 4:40orders. He's appointed and nominated individuals
- 4:43to lead banking agencies. the SEC, potentially
- 4:49the CFTC, and others with a focus on encouraging
- 4:55additional activity with respect to the crypto
- 4:58asset market and digital assets more broadly.
- 5:00One of the kind of culminating features of this
- 5:04approach that we saw just recently with respect
- 5:07to the expanded crypto policy and a more flexible,
- 5:11I guess, approach to cryptocurrency payments
- 5:13and the banking system was a White House release
- 5:16that's titled Strengthening American Leadership
- 5:18in Digital Financial Technology. In this paper,
- 5:21the White House outlines a number of areas where
- 5:23the U .S. should be leading in financial technology.
- 5:26The paper discusses and outlines the digital
- 5:30asset ecosystem, market structure, the banking
- 5:33ecosystem and digital assets, stable coins, payments,
- 5:37taxation. And it also has a discussion about
- 5:41what is really understood to be one of the highest
- 5:45risks associated with cryptocurrencies, and that's
- 5:49the risk of money laundering and how we counter
- 5:53the risk of illicit finance in the cryptocurrency
- 5:57space. So suffice to say, there's a lot more
- 6:00work to be done in the area, and we expect...
- 6:02a number of more policy updates, white papers
- 6:05and the like from the administration, from the
- 6:08banking and the financial markets industry going
- 6:12forward and from those regulators as well. Given
- 6:15the fact that we're in the early years of the
- 6:18second Trump administration, I would also expect
- 6:21some focus to develop on expanding opportunities
- 6:25for investments in and access to the broader
- 6:29digital asset ecosystem. Perhaps that's a focus
- 6:32for another episode, as this area is continuing
- 6:35to evolve day to day. A second critical area
- 6:38that we've seen some significant change to recently
- 6:41has come within the federal banking agencies
- 6:43with respect to fintech innovation, novel activities
- 6:47beyond just the cryptocurrencies and digital
- 6:50assets focus. Anyone in the practice will know
- 6:54that's familiar with banking and fintechs. There's
- 6:57a lot of discussion and background with respect
- 7:00to banks and fintech partnerships, engaging in
- 7:04a number of different products, services, and
- 7:06activities together, and other kinds of innovative
- 7:09and novel activities. So the focus in this area
- 7:12shouldn't be surprising. But it's especially
- 7:15the case now that we've seen, for example, the
- 7:18Federal Reserve just recently issued a withdrawal
- 7:20of its previous supervisory program that was
- 7:24going to be focused only on novel activities.
- 7:27So it was called the Novel Activity Supervision
- 7:29Program. It was released in August of 2023 and
- 7:32covered activities related to crypto assets,
- 7:35distributed ledger technology, complex fintech
- 7:38and bank partnerships, and also traditional products
- 7:41and services that are provided to crypto or fintech
- 7:44companies. The goal of the supervision program
- 7:47was as it was outlined, was to foster the benefits
- 7:51of financial innovation while recognizing and
- 7:53appropriately addressing risks to ensure the
- 7:56safety and soundness of the banking system with
- 7:58a risk -focused supervision and as a complement
- 8:02to the existing supervisory processes at the
- 8:05Federal Reserve. However, Federal Reserve recently
- 8:08announced that it will sunset this novel activities
- 8:10supervision program. And so what does that mean?
- 8:14Well, in terms from the Federal Reserve, it means
- 8:16that they'll simply return to monitoring and
- 8:19examining their banks. their bank's specifically
- 8:23novel activities through the normal supervisory
- 8:25process. They indicated that since they'd started
- 8:28their program in August of 2023 to supervise
- 8:31and review certain crypto and fintech activities,
- 8:34they've since strengthened the understanding
- 8:36of those activities, the related risks, and the
- 8:39bank risk management practices. So they're simply
- 8:42integrating that knowledge into this existing.
- 8:45supervisory program. There's no need for a separate
- 8:47program now. We're putting it into the existing
- 8:51supervisory program. This does seem like an encouraging
- 8:54bit of news, especially for the banks that were
- 8:57focused on potentially additional challenges
- 8:59of having another separate supervision program
- 9:02that was focused on these novel activities with
- 9:05crypto and fintech partners, as opposed to having
- 9:07it built within the existing supervisory program.
- 9:11Another critical development we've seen since
- 9:13the second Trump administration took office is
- 9:16an increased flexibility or an apparent flexibility
- 9:19with respect to bank mergers and acquisitions,
- 9:21especially with respect to competition issues
- 9:23and monopoly issues. In the bank merger and acquisition
- 9:27space, We've seen at least one approval come
- 9:31through with respect to a large transaction that
- 9:33had a number of potentially complicated factors
- 9:37associated with it. And we do expect more large
- 9:43bank transactions in the future. We've seen a
- 9:46few announcements come out. We've seen more at
- 9:49the regional and community bank level. But with
- 9:52the additional what I'll call flexibility with
- 9:56respect to the regulatory approach to reviewing
- 9:59M &A transactions, we do expect this area to
- 10:02pick up a little bit, even despite higher interest
- 10:06rates and economic uncertainty. We do expect
- 10:09some additional activity in this area going forward,
- 10:12especially in this year and into 2026, for a
- 10:16number of reasons, not the least of which is
- 10:18this increased flexibility. We've had speeches
- 10:21from folks at the banking agencies, the federal
- 10:25banking agencies, that have indicated that they
- 10:27are looking forward to accepting applications
- 10:32for M &A and hoping to alleviate some of the
- 10:36concerns over the timeline, some of which have
- 10:38been particularly extensive for approving those
- 10:42mergers and acquisition transactions. Now, that's
- 10:47at the federal level. So we'll see how that works
- 10:49out at the state level for state chartered banking
- 10:51institutions that will have to go through the
- 10:52regulatory approval process at the state level.
- 10:55But generally, we believe going forward, there's
- 10:58what's perceived as a more favorable environment
- 11:01for bank mergers and acquisitions, especially,
- 11:03I think, in the regional and community bank system.
- 11:06The final critical development that I want to
- 11:09mention today relates to consumer finance regulation.
- 11:12And it's the CFPB, as we all know, right? The
- 11:15CFPB under the second administration has been
- 11:17quiet and in fact has very few remaining employees.
- 11:22But while the CFPB may be ignored for the time
- 11:26being, what can be ignored is that we're seeing
- 11:29a pickup in activity at the state level, especially
- 11:32with respect to state AGs and state consumer
- 11:37watchdogs, right? There's an increased activity
- 11:41level with respect to consumer finance regulatory
- 11:43enforcement issues. State agencies have been
- 11:47increasing their activity since the CFPB has
- 11:49taken a backseat. We expect the activity to continue
- 11:53at the state level in the near term because at
- 11:55the end of the day, while the CFPB may be quiet,
- 11:58state and federal consumer finance laws have
- 12:00not been thrown out and still exist and can still
- 12:04be enforced against banks and other financial
- 12:06institutions. So we really do expect the state
- 12:09-level activity to be particularly robust with
- 12:12respect to enforcement related to things like
- 12:14fair lending and anti -discrimination statutes,
- 12:17privacy of consumer financial information and
- 12:20other privacy statutes, especially at the state
- 12:22level, and data security of financial institutions.
- 12:26Those are just a few of the areas that we're
- 12:28seeing some pickup in state -level activity in
- 12:32the enforcement space, but do expect more. So
- 12:35yet another development to be aware of and to
- 12:37consider in strategic planning at your bank or
- 12:42other financial institution. I know it was a
- 12:45brief episode today and we kind of covered off
- 12:47on a few different issues pretty quickly, but
- 12:50I really appreciate you guys listening. Again,
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- 13:01please reach out to me as always. Joe Silvia,
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