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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's Monday, then that means one thing.
- 0:03Speaker 2: It's time to mollywop uncensored, unscripted and filled with the
- 0:08Speaker 2: passion that all Mariners fans can relate to, and brought
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- 0:19Speaker 2: Mariners gear. Now with the Mollywop boys, Nathan Bishop and
- 0:23Speaker 2: Chris Crawford with my Oh why here's Ian Furness.
- 0:27Speaker 1: All right, yes, here we go a whopping on a Monday, uh,
- 0:31Speaker 1: like we always do. It's all brought to by Simply
- 0:32Speaker 1: sattlesimplyattl dot com. As far as I know, we're all good.
- 0:37Speaker 1: You know what's surprising all the sales staffs here. I
- 0:38Speaker 1: follows those guys. I would have said peace out too.
- 0:40Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh no, not good. But they're working
- 0:42Speaker 1: from home. Yeah, I can work for home. These guys
- 0:44Speaker 1: are working from home right now. We love it. Chris
- 0:46Speaker 1: Crawford Nathan Bishop are with us, gentlemen. Good to see
- 0:48Speaker 1: your faces. We're on YouTube, but you're not on YouTube?
- 0:52Speaker 1: Is that how that works? That is correct? Okay, until
- 0:54Speaker 1: we get that figure. Your voices are on YouTube, which Yeah,
- 0:57Speaker 1: your voices are on YouTube, which is good, but your
- 1:00Speaker 1: faces yet to be on YouTube. So that's that technology
- 1:05Speaker 1: that's far down the road fell at least. Ye.
- 1:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:08Speaker 4: Yeah, if only there was a company that allowed you
- 1:12Speaker 4: to stream within your yard, that allowed you to do
- 1:14Speaker 4: it very easily.
- 1:15Speaker 1: If only there was I that would be unbelievable. Of course,
- 1:19Speaker 1: that would also that would also take other technology. Surf.
- 1:22Speaker 1: We're crazy today. I pulled in, I looked outside. There's
- 1:25Speaker 1: like a semi it's parked sideways by on the side
- 1:28Speaker 1: of our building. Apparently that's our generator right now, so
- 1:31Speaker 1: that's we're just happening power in the building. Yes, microwave
- 1:34Speaker 1: work could heat up some leftover is all good? Chris
- 1:36Speaker 1: Craft for Nathan Bishop. Away we go, and I'll just
- 1:39Speaker 1: say his shout out all joking aside with the fire department,
- 1:41Speaker 1: the guy asking me about the murners and and the
- 1:43Speaker 1: you know what, uh sale fire departments. Awesome. I mean
- 1:47Speaker 1: those guys didn't mess around. They I just big shout
- 1:49Speaker 1: out to those guys and anybody who's in that first
- 1:51Speaker 1: responder field man, big fan, We thank you for all
- 1:54Speaker 1: your service. All right, opening statements after a resounding three
- 2:00Speaker 1: over the weekend preceded by not such a resounding three
- 2:03Speaker 1: days before that. Let's go, Nathan Bishop, you get the
- 2:07Speaker 1: first crack out of today. Your thoughts on the week
- 2:09Speaker 1: that was, sir.
- 2:10Speaker 5: I feel like this is the same thing. This happened
- 2:13Speaker 5: a lot last year, where the team would go out
- 2:15Speaker 5: and play like garbage from Monday through Wednesday, and I'd
- 2:19Speaker 5: get to sharpen my knives and have all this fun
- 2:21Speaker 5: and like do the little cracking of my knuckles and everything,
- 2:23Speaker 5: and then the weekend would come, and man, I was
- 2:25Speaker 5: so ready because right around the time you guys were
- 2:27Speaker 5: dealing with your fire, the bat from each row's statue
- 2:31Speaker 5: was falling off in the middle of it being unveiled.
- 2:34Speaker 5: And I was just so ready to have so much
- 2:36Speaker 5: fun all this weekend. But then the stupid Houston Astros
- 2:40Speaker 5: rolled into town with their nineteen ninety six Mariner's ass
- 2:44Speaker 5: rotation and through three of the worst baseball games I've
- 2:47Speaker 5: ever seen in my life. Here is a I think
- 2:51Speaker 5: Bob Bob Wells is starting the game today. I know
- 2:53Speaker 5: it's getting ready to get caught. Yeah, because that's who
- 2:56Speaker 5: I think they got got.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Mike Schooler is gonna close if need be so he's
- 2:59Speaker 1: in the pen just in case.
- 3:00Speaker 5: So, yes, Mariner hitters walked twenty six times Friday, Saturday,
- 3:06Speaker 5: and Sunday. The San Francisco Giants have walked thirty three
- 3:09Speaker 5: times all season long, and they weren't even I mean,
- 3:13Speaker 5: the Mariners have some hitters that are are good with
- 3:16Speaker 5: play discipline. JP Crawford obviously being back, that guy's whole
- 3:19Speaker 5: deal is that he knows exactly where the strike zone is.
- 3:21Speaker 5: So many of these walks were non competitive, four pitches
- 3:26Speaker 5: nowhere near the strike zone. It was awful. And I'm
- 3:29Speaker 5: rambling about all that to say, not that the Mariner
- 3:32Speaker 5: zone deserve credit for playing well and winning all three
- 3:34Speaker 5: of these games. But if you look at the American
- 3:36Speaker 5: League right now, yes, the Mariners are seven and nine
- 3:39Speaker 5: and kind of screwing around. This is exactly the kind
- 3:42Speaker 5: of league we thought it was going to be. The
- 3:44Speaker 5: Minnesota Twins started today with the best record in the
- 3:47Speaker 5: American League at nine and seven. The Mirrors are going
- 3:50Speaker 5: to have to work so hard to not win this division.
- 3:54Speaker 5: It's breathtaking to me. The top three highest walk rates
- 3:58Speaker 5: among pitching staffs and baseball right now. Number one is Houston.
- 4:01Speaker 5: Number two is the Angels. Number three is the A's
- 4:04Speaker 5: nobody in this division outside of Seattle and Texas a
- 4:07Speaker 5: little bit can pitch. So I think it's a good
- 4:10Speaker 5: sign for the MS. Man. I just hope they keep
- 4:12Speaker 5: a running today. I've found these Houston games unwatchable, with
- 4:16Speaker 5: the exception of the fact that my god, Houston has
- 4:18Speaker 5: fallen so far.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Which is entering, which is really fun. That's actually really cool.
- 4:23Speaker 1: That's actually we kind of enjoy that part. We really
- 4:25Speaker 1: kind of truly enjoy. Yes, to be honest with you,
- 4:27Speaker 1: all right, Chris fire away, am my friend real quick.
- 4:30Speaker 4: I'm just seeing on ESPN Crawford found guilty of caroless driving. Fine,
- 4:34Speaker 4: the better click to make sure that's not me. It's
- 4:38Speaker 4: by the way, it's Terrence Crawford. Call the Mariners Illinois
- 4:44Speaker 4: football baby, because they go four and eight pretty much
- 4:46Speaker 4: every season. It is just another slow start, and like
- 4:51Speaker 4: Nathan said, thank God for this series against the Astros
- 4:55Speaker 4: and the fact that this pitching staff for Houston is
- 4:59Speaker 4: just garbage. It is ten pounds of crap in the
- 5:01Speaker 4: five pound bag got one off early. They just I mean,
- 5:05Speaker 4: that is a bad baseball team to watch right now.
- 5:08Speaker 4: Not offensively They've got a lot of guys who can
- 5:10Speaker 4: really hit. The Texas Series was concerning as early as
- 5:14Speaker 4: all of this stuff is. That Texas Series was concerning
- 5:17Speaker 4: because the offense just looked terrible. Josh Naylor still like
- 5:22Speaker 4: his timing his way off, and the bad speed is
- 5:24Speaker 4: considerably down. There were some things to be concerned about,
- 5:28Speaker 4: but it was just nice to see this team play
- 5:30Speaker 4: well over three games and taking advantage of bad pitching,
- 5:33Speaker 4: no question about it. But you got to not swing
- 5:35Speaker 4: the bad at bad pitches, and you gotta take advantage
- 5:38Speaker 4: of some stuff. Really impressed with what I've seen from
- 5:40Speaker 4: Randio Rose Arena as of late. Getting a sweep would
- 5:43Speaker 4: be cool here. And by the way, more Friday to
- 5:45Speaker 4: Monday series. We used to have him when I was
- 5:47Speaker 4: a kid, and I don't know, I'm old as dirt,
- 5:49Speaker 4: but we used to have them all the time.
- 5:51Speaker 6: I like Friday to Monday. This is kind of fun.
- 5:53Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask you about that like that.
- 5:54Speaker 1: This this kind of also feels Christoph, I'm not mistaken.
- 5:57Speaker 1: This also kind of very minor league too, right, very
- 6:00Speaker 1: very PCL back in the day, right, I think, yeah,
- 6:02Speaker 1: And I always thought that the I could be wrong
- 6:05Speaker 1: with that. I always kind of thought one of the
- 6:07Speaker 1: reasons they did that in the minors is because if
- 6:09Speaker 1: you're flying, it's a lot cheaper maybe to fly on
- 6:11Speaker 1: the Monday, and easier to fly with a team on
- 6:13Speaker 1: a Monday as opposed to a Sunday afternoon when people
- 6:15Speaker 1: are commuting. But yeah, this kind of feels very pcl
- 6:18Speaker 1: like Albuquerque's in town for the final of four here
- 6:21Speaker 1: at Cheenie Stadium is what it kind of feels like
- 6:23Speaker 1: along the way. But yeah, I'm with you. It's it's
- 6:26Speaker 1: getting healthy in a hurry along the way, Nathan Bishop,
- 6:30Speaker 1: Chris Crawford with us. It is a Molly Watt Monday,
- 6:32Speaker 1: brought to you by Simply Seattle, Simply Seattle dot com,
- 6:35Speaker 1: Duffy Waldorf. By the way, well played, sir, well played, Nathan.
- 6:39Speaker 1: We go back to what you just said a moment ago.
- 6:41Speaker 1: The the basically the base the the American League, and
- 6:47Speaker 1: we'll get to the Mariners in a second. But the
- 6:49Speaker 1: American League, it's right eight and seven, nine and seven,
- 6:51Speaker 1: nine and seven eight, and like nobody is running away
- 6:54Speaker 1: with the American League. So whatever happened last week was fine.
- 6:58Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's kind of the thing that
- 7:00Speaker 5: we thought this league was going to be coming in
- 7:03Speaker 5: and it's felt like we were moving in this direction
- 7:05Speaker 5: for a couple of years now, as you saw almost
- 7:09Speaker 5: every major transaction involving superstar level talent was taking place. Obviously,
- 7:14Speaker 5: a huge portion of it is the Dodgers, which is
- 7:16Speaker 5: triggered then an arms race in the National League between
- 7:19Speaker 5: them and now the Mets most specifically, But then there's
- 7:22Speaker 5: a trickle down. There's these guys like the Cubs and
- 7:24Speaker 5: the Padres and all of these teams that feel like
- 7:26Speaker 5: they're trying to keep up with the big, bad guys
- 7:28Speaker 5: over in the National League, but here in the American League.
- 7:31Speaker 5: Because the the Yankees have decided that their highest calling
- 7:35Speaker 5: is to be the Jerry Depoto fifty four percent aspirational
- 7:38Speaker 5: guys that they have decided they're going to be, there
- 7:41Speaker 5: is no big guy on the block to kind of
- 7:43Speaker 5: drive that pursuit of, Hey, wouldn't it be cool to
- 7:46Speaker 5: win one hundred and five one hundred and ten games
- 7:48Speaker 5: in the regular season. All that we're seeing is a
- 7:50Speaker 5: bunch of guys trying to do a bunch of math
- 7:53Speaker 5: to figure out exactly how hard they have to try
- 7:56Speaker 5: in order to still be around for the Wildcard two
- 7:58Speaker 5: or Wildcard three, and that's a trickle down of an
- 8:00Speaker 5: ever expanding playoff field. So the Mariagigs should be just
- 8:03Speaker 5: fine even with this slow start, but obviously, to Chris's point,
- 8:06Speaker 5: they do need to play better when they're not being
- 8:08Speaker 5: walked twenty six times over a weekend.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Chris just along those lines, just kind of to piggyback
- 8:13Speaker 1: on what Nate said, we always I mean, listen, there's
- 8:16Speaker 1: there's we look at a record early on and I
- 8:19Speaker 1: think you were the one last week that said it,
- 8:21Speaker 1: and I thought it was it was bang on true.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Like you missed home field advantage by four games last year.
- 8:26Speaker 1: So games in April do matter. You want to win.
- 8:28Speaker 1: But in this year, Chris, and this year is American League,
- 8:31Speaker 1: probably a good year if you want to start out
- 8:33Speaker 1: as they did at what was it four and nine?
- 8:36Speaker 1: Oh there's Chris, there's Chris. Can you hear me? Chris?
- 8:39Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 8:39Speaker 4: Sorry, guys, I've got some internet issues. I think Andrews
- 8:43Speaker 4: might be aware of my Internet issues as of late.
- 8:45Speaker 1: A little bit us you're saying that wasn't my fault,
- 8:48Speaker 1: that was your fault. Good, I'll go Yeah, sorry, guys,
- 8:52Speaker 1: no worries. Yeah, just I was going to say this
- 8:54Speaker 1: is this was this is the year in the American League,
- 8:56Speaker 1: right that you want to be four and nine although
- 8:58Speaker 1: you mentioned it last week and we talked about in
- 9:00Speaker 1: the next day and everything else, as he said, you're
- 9:01Speaker 1: a smart man and things like that, and wishes you
- 9:03Speaker 1: were here instead of me most days. But but I
- 9:06Speaker 1: think that's the key, Like this year, no one's running
- 9:08Speaker 1: away with the American League. So this is a year
- 9:10Speaker 1: ago four and nine. We'll get to the other issues
- 9:12Speaker 1: in a second, that Naylor and all that kind of stuff,
- 9:14Speaker 1: But four and nine this year really didn't hurt you.
- 9:18Speaker 6: No, thankfully it didn't.
- 9:19Speaker 4: The only thing you can say is, hey, what if
- 9:22Speaker 4: you'd gone seven and six and eight and five and had.
- 9:24Speaker 6: A little bit of a bigger lead.
- 9:25Speaker 4: You know, you could always look at the glass half
- 9:27Speaker 4: empty if you really want to look at that glass
- 9:30Speaker 4: half empty. But no, this and the other thing is man,
- 9:32Speaker 4: just you know, as a guy who covers a lot
- 9:34Speaker 4: of baseball, watching a lot of these teams right now.
- 9:37Speaker 6: They do not pass the eye test either.
- 9:39Speaker 4: It is not just a case of like taking a
- 9:42Speaker 4: look and seeing some bad one run lock or taking
- 9:44Speaker 4: a look at some teams beating up on each other.
- 9:47Speaker 4: Some of these teams just look awful to begin the year,
- 9:50Speaker 4: and that's going to change. And unfortunately Seattle prior to
- 9:53Speaker 4: the last three was one of those teams that looked
- 9:56Speaker 4: like one of those garbage baseball teams. But yeah, it's
- 9:59Speaker 4: it's so fortunate that nobody took advantage of this, and
- 10:02Speaker 4: especially it's so fortunate that the Aos just does not
- 10:06Speaker 4: look like a strong division in twenty twenty six.
- 10:09Speaker 1: The Chris me I want to ask just to We'll
- 10:12Speaker 1: get to the hitters in a second, but Mark brought
- 10:16Speaker 1: this up. MJ brought this up to me in the crosstalk,
- 10:19Speaker 1: and he said, Hey, were you surprised they let Castille
- 10:21Speaker 1: stay in for so long on Sunday or Saturday? And
- 10:23Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I I was kind
- 10:26Speaker 1: of almost two things jumped out one. They were down
- 10:28Speaker 1: seven to two. It almost felt like, okay, we'll move
- 10:31Speaker 1: on to we're a worry about Sunday, right, and you're just
- 10:34Speaker 1: gonna wear this right, you just you'll just go ahead
- 10:36Speaker 1: and wear this game. But were you surprised that they
- 10:39Speaker 1: left him in.
- 10:40Speaker 6: A little bit?
- 10:41Speaker 4: Now I have to admit I didn't watch that game live,
- 10:44Speaker 4: but like watching it unfold, I saw some actually okay
- 10:49Speaker 4: stuff from Castillo and I looked at it generated thirteen
- 10:53Speaker 4: swings and misses in that outing. It's just got a
- 10:55Speaker 4: little too much of the plate there, and you do
- 10:58Speaker 4: have to build up arm strength here, like there is
- 11:00Speaker 4: a little bit of we need to make sure that
- 11:04Speaker 4: you get you ready to have those eighty to ninety
- 11:06Speaker 4: pitch outings because it's going to be really important for them.
- 11:11Speaker 4: I will say though, Castillo since that brilliant start against
- 11:14Speaker 4: the Yankees, has not looked good over these last couple
- 11:18Speaker 4: not terrible, but the results are the results. In the
- 11:20Speaker 4: fact that he hasn't gotten out of the fourth inning
- 11:23Speaker 4: and either of those is a little bit concerning. But
- 11:25Speaker 4: I was a little surprised, and it also just kind
- 11:27Speaker 4: of speaks to the fact that this bullpen right now,
- 11:30Speaker 4: Dan Wilson is going to play it the way he's
- 11:35Speaker 4: played it, and Dan Wilson doesn't appear to feel comfortable
- 11:39Speaker 4: doing the Scott service of bringing in a leverage arm
- 11:43Speaker 4: to put out a fire type of thing.
- 11:44Speaker 6: That just hasn't been something that they've done so far.
- 11:48Speaker 6: But overall, I'll just say this, I'm not concerned about
- 11:51Speaker 6: Luis Castillo. I was a midge and surprised he stayed
- 11:54Speaker 6: in the game as long as he.
- 11:55Speaker 1: Nathan. Probably what we go back to, we just talking
- 11:58Speaker 1: about how where this team is where the rest of
- 12:00Speaker 1: the American League probably safe to say, and I like
- 12:02Speaker 1: what Chris said, the eye test isn't being passed. We
- 12:05Speaker 1: still know what the what the four to five six
- 12:08Speaker 1: guys are going to start games for Seattle that probably
- 12:10Speaker 1: passes an eye test. That puts you in a different category, right,
- 12:13Speaker 1: Nathan than people the rest of the American League. Oh?
- 12:16Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think that the depth of this rotation, like
- 12:18Speaker 5: we've talked about Atndium, speaking of which I'm breaking news here,
- 12:21Speaker 5: we're talking about eye tests. I just watched Brandon Donovan
- 12:23Speaker 5: throw a ball all the way from third base to
- 12:25Speaker 5: first on the fly where it was caught by the
- 12:28Speaker 5: guy he was trying to throw it to. So that's
- 12:30Speaker 5: pretty cool. But yeah, this rotation is absolutely the thing
- 12:33Speaker 5: that I felt coming into the season, because I think
- 12:35Speaker 5: the whole thing with the Mariners coming into twenty twenty
- 12:38Speaker 5: six was I didn't think it was likely that the
- 12:41Speaker 5: positional group as a whole was going to play much
- 12:44Speaker 5: better than it did in twenty twenty five. I saw
- 12:46Speaker 5: a regression overall coming from the offensive side of things,
- 12:50Speaker 5: and so what you were going to need to see
- 12:51Speaker 5: is that rotation get back to more of what it
- 12:53Speaker 5: was in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four and so far,
- 12:56Speaker 5: even with you know, the occasional struggles from a guy
- 12:59Speaker 5: like Castillo and Emerson, Hancock didn't look like an ACE
- 13:03Speaker 5: for the first time all year his last time through,
- 13:04Speaker 5: although he was still fine. This is still the deepest
- 13:07Speaker 5: and most talented rotation in the American League. I don't
- 13:10Speaker 5: think it's particularly close, although I did like what I
- 13:12Speaker 5: saw from the Yankees in those three games that they
- 13:14Speaker 5: played against the Yankees. But I'd still take Seattle's every day.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris, that's that's still the strength of this team.
- 13:19Speaker 1: We'll get to hitting in the next segment. Strength this
- 13:21Speaker 1: team is still those five guys five slash six. When
- 13:23Speaker 1: Miller comes back and it sounds like he had a
- 13:25Speaker 1: good bullpen yesterday down in Arizona.
- 13:27Speaker 6: So absolutely the strength.
- 13:29Speaker 4: And you know what, I'm going to add a seventh
- 13:31Speaker 4: the reports I am getting on Katie Anderson.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna see you up for that. Tell
- 13:35Speaker 1: people you were you were sent us a text on
- 13:37Speaker 1: Saturday or something saying this was like the highlight of
- 13:39Speaker 1: my weekend, which that's a whole different story. But yes,
- 13:43Speaker 1: yea a little different story forward.
- 13:45Speaker 4: Sure, but he looks phenomenal for those who missed it.
- 13:49Speaker 4: Five no hit innings over his last start, eleven strikeouts.
- 13:53Speaker 4: He struck out seventeen guys in nine innings so far
- 13:56Speaker 4: at the Double A level. He's special. He's got a
- 14:00Speaker 4: chance to be really good. And he's also I have
- 14:02Speaker 4: to admit, like I'm not a huge old school baseball guy.
- 14:06Speaker 4: It's kind of fun watching somebody miss bats that. It's
- 14:08Speaker 4: not one hundred and two. It's not just an elite fastball.
- 14:12Speaker 4: He misses bats because he commands the heck out of
- 14:15Speaker 4: everything he throws, and he generates so much movement with
- 14:18Speaker 4: the pitches as well. He's got a chance to be
- 14:21Speaker 4: a really special arm and give the Mariners a really
- 14:25Speaker 4: good problem over the summer if this keeps up.
- 14:28Speaker 1: Chris Crawford, does he have to pitch in to calm
- 14:32Speaker 1: up before he comes up here? Do you think?
- 14:34Speaker 6: No?
- 14:34Speaker 4: No, I would be surprised if he didn't, because I
- 14:37Speaker 4: can't well, they kind of didn't. Like I don't believe
- 14:40Speaker 4: that Logan Gilbert made a start at Triple A, and
- 14:43Speaker 4: I think George Kirby made like one before he called
- 14:45Speaker 4: me up. Nathan, you can correct me on that if
- 14:47Speaker 4: I got that wrong. But they certainly didn't spend a
- 14:50Speaker 4: lot of time in Tacoma. So either way, I don't
- 14:54Speaker 4: think it's a necessity. I think it is something that
- 14:56Speaker 4: if they feel that his stuff is ready to roll,
- 14:58Speaker 4: they're going to give him a chance to get MLB innings.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Is it help me out here with the abs challenge,
- 15:04Speaker 1: you still just get too right unless you get them right,
- 15:06Speaker 1: that is correct. Is it weird to take one on
- 15:09Speaker 1: the third pitch of the game.
- 15:12Speaker 5: Well, it depends. Was it obviously a strike and it
- 15:14Speaker 5: was really dumb to challenge them? Yes?
- 15:16Speaker 1: The answers yes and yes. Oh, well, because.
- 15:21Speaker 6: I think they're learning, buddy with it's you know.
- 15:24Speaker 1: I think did the same thing. I think the Astros
- 15:26Speaker 1: did the same thing on Saturday. They were out and
- 15:28Speaker 1: they kind of got hooped in the ninth inning.
- 15:30Speaker 4: Well, and I think one of the things that you're
- 15:32Speaker 4: going to have to learn, I think it were as players,
- 15:35Speaker 4: is you've got to take the emotions of a call
- 15:38Speaker 4: that was probably right out of it with some of
- 15:41Speaker 4: this stuff. And I have seen that so often that
- 15:44Speaker 4: somebody is pissed off that they stick out. Okay, let's
- 15:48Speaker 4: challenge this because I couldn't have done something wrong. It's
- 15:51Speaker 4: got to be somebody else's fault. But this early, and
- 15:54Speaker 4: it wasn't a case of by the way, we're not
- 15:56Speaker 4: even supposed to acknowledge this is happening.
- 16:00Speaker 6: In a little bit.
- 16:01Speaker 1: It is about Olivia Miles. Yes, no, do you like that?
- 16:03Speaker 6: I mean I want, I want fued, but I don't.
- 16:07Speaker 1: I don't know if Dallas, I don't know if Dallas
- 16:09Speaker 1: can get away with not drafting fud Page is still
- 16:12Speaker 1: in Dallas last tight check. And I don't know if
- 16:15Speaker 1: you know this, she's got a semi strong personality. I
- 16:17Speaker 1: don't know how that would fly. I don't know. I'm
- 16:20Speaker 1: just it's just a guess. So yeah, that's fair. I
- 16:24Speaker 1: think they already bought a house there together, So we're
- 16:26Speaker 1: all good, all right, We'll take a break, will come back.
- 16:29Speaker 1: I've been avoiding Josh Naylor's offense. Well, he's been avoiding
- 16:33Speaker 1: his offense, which is all good, right, that works We'll
- 16:36Speaker 1: talk about that with Chris and Nate Malliwa Monday. Next
- 16:43Speaker 1: from the R.
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- 16:59Speaker 1: Monday. He continues, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Simply
- 17:02Speaker 1: Seattle dot com. Is we're in the commercial break. I'm
- 17:05Speaker 1: going through the minor league report the Mariners send out
- 17:07Speaker 1: every day, Chris, Michael Arroyo has been good. It looks
- 17:11Speaker 1: like so far, we said, nice weekend, Las Montes, Right, Montes, yep,
- 17:17Speaker 1: had a nice weekend as well. We liked that those
- 17:19Speaker 1: are part of the future. Correct, all those guys, And
- 17:22Speaker 1: I look up and right then and there I see
- 17:24Speaker 1: Josh Naylor hit a three run home run. What did
- 17:28Speaker 1: you say, Anders, What did you say? You spoken into existence?
- 17:30Speaker 7: I did?
- 17:31Speaker 3: I did?
- 17:31Speaker 1: He is now he is now seven for sixty on
- 17:35Speaker 1: the season. As his first home run and he's up
- 17:39Speaker 1: to five RBI as well. Today's home run aside, Chris,
- 17:43Speaker 1: what do you see from Josh Naylor?
- 17:45Speaker 8: Uh?
- 17:46Speaker 4: Not a lot of batspeed? And you know, that is
- 17:49Speaker 4: a little bit more concerning than being off on pitches
- 17:54Speaker 4: or you know, not finding the strikes on as much
- 17:58Speaker 4: when it's an actual athleticism thing. And let's just be honest,
- 18:02Speaker 4: Josh Naylor is not exactly known for his athleticism either.
- 18:06Speaker 6: Now he's had some bad luck.
- 18:08Speaker 4: There have been some line drives that have just found
- 18:11Speaker 4: the gloves of first basement or right fielders so many
- 18:14Speaker 4: times this year, but there have been a lot of
- 18:18Speaker 4: just weak contact, more swing and mists than we're usually
- 18:22Speaker 4: seeing from Josh Naylor as well. That was nice to see.
- 18:26Speaker 4: That was nice to see that laser. Who I gotta
- 18:28Speaker 4: be honest, I was wondering how is this gonna go
- 18:31Speaker 4: wrong just because it's been that kind of start to
- 18:33Speaker 4: the season for Naylor. But I am concerned about the
- 18:36Speaker 4: lack of bat speed. Not a huge thing that is
- 18:39Speaker 4: impossible to overcome as he feels more comfortable as he
- 18:42Speaker 4: loosens up, but it is a little bit concerning that
- 18:46Speaker 4: it is an athletic thing more than a process thing
- 18:48Speaker 4: with Naylor.
- 18:49Speaker 1: To me, one to thank Nathan, where's your concern level
- 18:51Speaker 1: for Naylor today? Aside?
- 18:54Speaker 5: Ah like a six where it's it's still soar and
- 19:00Speaker 5: I just really have a hard time caring about almost
- 19:02Speaker 5: any stats until May. I will echo what Chris is
- 19:06Speaker 5: talking about as far as process. Naylor is such an
- 19:08Speaker 5: interesting player because he plays first base. He's a bigger guy,
- 19:13Speaker 5: so you think that he's going to be this like
- 19:14Speaker 5: prototypical thirty five home run slugger who hits like two forty.
- 19:19Speaker 5: But you know, his skill set has always been higher
- 19:21Speaker 5: contact with a little less power that he can absolutely
- 19:24Speaker 5: crush a baseball. He can hit it plenty far, but
- 19:26Speaker 5: he's never been a huge home run guy. So what
- 19:29Speaker 5: I want to see is just get that batting average
- 19:31Speaker 5: up there. And part of that's going to be just
- 19:33Speaker 5: the babbit regression when you see more balls find some grass.
- 19:36Speaker 5: But he just needs to start putting a lot better,
- 19:38Speaker 5: a lot more good swings on the ball. And if
- 19:41Speaker 5: that bat speed doesn't come back this year, like if
- 19:44Speaker 5: that's a permanent thing this year, that contract is going
- 19:48Speaker 5: to start looking not great a lot earlier than we
- 19:51Speaker 5: thought it was going to. So that's that's the real reason.
- 19:54Speaker 5: That's probably adding two to my concern is less is
- 19:57Speaker 5: josh Nay Naylor going to be fine this year? I
- 19:59Speaker 5: think he probably will be. But if he's at all
- 20:02Speaker 5: a reduced version of himself now in year one of
- 20:05Speaker 5: a five year contract, that that contract's going to start
- 20:08Speaker 5: looking interesting going into twenty twenty seven and beyond.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Chris as a guy that does kind of study everything
- 20:13Speaker 1: around the league and you're watching this, I think last
- 20:16Speaker 1: week it was like you know, said to us two
- 20:19Speaker 1: weeks ago, I guess there's a few guys around the
- 20:21Speaker 1: league that have batspeed down, but specifically with the three
- 20:24Speaker 1: guys in Seattle, was you know the BA velocity was
- 20:28Speaker 1: way down compared to last year. Is this a norm though?
- 20:31Speaker 1: Are you seeing that from others around the league or
- 20:33Speaker 1: is nail Or an outlier? And what do we see
- 20:35Speaker 1: him from Cal and Julio in that regard.
- 20:37Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit more of an outlier now.
- 20:40Speaker 4: Like I said, there are guys who are struggling right now,
- 20:42Speaker 4: but it hasn't really been.
- 20:43Speaker 6: With bat speed.
- 20:44Speaker 4: The good news is Seattle, Julio and Cal have bounced back.
- 20:48Speaker 4: Like Cal, I was just looking, Julio ranks now in
- 20:50Speaker 4: the ninety six percent dial in bat speed, and I
- 20:53Speaker 4: think Big Dumper was something like eighty five eighty six
- 20:55Speaker 4: percent dial.
- 20:57Speaker 6: But no, it was. And here's the thing.
- 20:59Speaker 4: What you us only happens with bat speed guys who
- 21:02Speaker 4: struggle early, it's because they're not comfortable swinging fully, like
- 21:05Speaker 4: they're not picking up the baseball well enough to completely
- 21:07Speaker 4: give it that entire rip. With Josh Naylor, I think
- 21:11Speaker 4: it is something where he's just not ripping it, like
- 21:14Speaker 4: he's giving it his full swing and he's just not
- 21:17Speaker 4: getting there. You've seen some in betweens from Julio and
- 21:20Speaker 4: Cal earlier that kind of affect that number, but they're
- 21:23Speaker 4: back on their way up with Naylor. Outside of I'll
- 21:27Speaker 4: have to take a look at what the bat speed
- 21:29Speaker 4: was on this home run. Outside of that, Joss Naylor
- 21:32Speaker 4: just hasn't swung a very fast bat, and that is concerning.
- 21:35Speaker 1: How about Julio? But mister clutch five rbiyes this season
- 21:38Speaker 1: and let's see, two are game tying and then the
- 21:41Speaker 1: other one was a two run home in the ninth
- 21:43Speaker 1: inning and the other one was a game time home
- 21:45Speaker 1: run I think in the eighth inning. Like, right, I
- 21:47Speaker 1: guess you just clutch up. I mean, who else, like,
- 21:49Speaker 1: let me know when it matters. He's almost the ondress
- 21:51Speaker 1: Munos of hitters now, right, just just tap me when
- 21:54Speaker 1: you need me. Otherwise I'm going to take a few
- 21:56Speaker 1: innings off.
- 21:58Speaker 4: It's so fun to watch, and you know, he's he's
- 22:01Speaker 4: It's fun to watch for a lot of reasons.
- 22:03Speaker 6: One of them is there.
- 22:05Speaker 4: Is a portion of a fan base that doesn't still
- 22:09Speaker 4: fall in love with Julio Rodriguez. Let's just be honest.
- 22:13Speaker 4: I see it every day. I to hear it every
- 22:15Speaker 4: day via either text or via comments on YouTube or whatever.
- 22:20Speaker 4: There are still people who have not loved watching Julio.
- 22:24Speaker 4: But you can't question the clutch gene anymore. Man Like
- 22:28Speaker 4: that is as clutch as it gets. To tie games
- 22:31Speaker 4: with two outs in the ninth inning, that's huge. And
- 22:35Speaker 4: you know, you take a look at the Savant page
- 22:37Speaker 4: here everything really but Chase is totally fine, totally fine,
- 22:42Speaker 4: and his defense remains elite.
- 22:44Speaker 1: I have no I'm not happy with the numbers Julios
- 22:48Speaker 1: put up.
- 22:49Speaker 4: Everything in process with Julio Rodriguez for this first tenth
- 22:52Speaker 4: of the season suggests that he's going to be just fine.
- 22:56Speaker 5: And can Yeah. And in isolation too, that swing he
- 22:59Speaker 5: put on the ball for the home run on Saturday,
- 23:01Speaker 5: I know that Randy hit an absolute tank. This weekend.
- 23:04Speaker 5: But for my money, that ball that Julio hit on
- 23:06Speaker 5: Saturday was my favorite swing of any Mariner this year.
- 23:10Speaker 5: And I think he's the only guy on the team
- 23:12Speaker 5: that really hits that kind of a bomb, that way
- 23:14Speaker 5: out slightly slightly at a right center but almost dead center,
- 23:19Speaker 5: bomb that almost hits the batter's eye in the back there.
- 23:22Speaker 5: And it was such easy power, such an easy swing
- 23:25Speaker 5: to be getting that kind of To have a center
- 23:28Speaker 5: fielder do that kind of thing, I can't believe that
- 23:30Speaker 5: we've actually seen that before here, but we have. But
- 23:33Speaker 5: that is such a rare thing to have that kind
- 23:36Speaker 5: of a player play that position, be able to put
- 23:38Speaker 5: that kind of a swing on the ball, regardless of
- 23:40Speaker 5: game state. Everything Chris said about the clutch part is
- 23:42Speaker 5: true too. But just in isolation, what a beautiful home
- 23:45Speaker 5: run that was, and what an incredibly talented baseball player
- 23:49Speaker 5: he used to watch. I cal was the story of
- 23:51Speaker 5: the season last year. But when you watch Julio Rodriguez
- 23:54Speaker 5: play baseball, I mean, what a special thing. The guy's
- 23:56Speaker 5: just one of the most talented baseball players I've ever
- 23:59Speaker 5: seen in my life.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Great, So wait a second, you guys are both telling
- 24:02Speaker 1: me that that Julio Rodriguez is a good player and
- 24:05Speaker 1: we should be excited to watch him play every day
- 24:07Speaker 1: here in Seattle and enjoy what we have. Are you
- 24:09Speaker 1: telling me that you too? Is that what I'm hearing?
- 24:12Speaker 6: Yeah, Tacoma Dodg's text line, I don't know what to
- 24:14Speaker 6: tell you, but.
- 24:17Speaker 4: I don't get it, but like, hey, you do you
- 24:20Speaker 4: and uh hold on to your Jim Presley memory.
- 24:22Speaker 1: Trying I'm trying to think, have we ever had a
- 24:25Speaker 1: player of in any sport in Seattle of his ability
- 24:30Speaker 1: that drew as much criticism as he does? Maybe Russell Wilson,
- 24:38Speaker 1: Like I guess Sean Alexander. Maybe is it Seawan Alexander?
- 24:41Speaker 4: Oh, Seawan Alexander is a good one. Because everybody loves
- 24:45Speaker 4: to tell me that it was just because of Hutchinson
- 24:48Speaker 4: and Jones that he was a good player, including many
- 24:50Speaker 4: of my friends who are no longer my friends because
- 24:52Speaker 4: they said stupid crap like that great comp It's a
- 24:59Speaker 4: it's a different thing, but I think that is the guy.
- 25:04Speaker 4: He's the only guy I can think of who was
- 25:06Speaker 4: literally an MVP. Yes, that many fans just didn't love.
- 25:10Speaker 1: I think when I hope he wins the at some
- 25:14Speaker 1: point we get a Julio MVP for no other reason
- 25:16Speaker 1: because I want to hear the next year the criticism
- 25:19Speaker 1: of Julio, like, you know, like that's well, you know,
- 25:23Speaker 1: it's almost like the guy this weekend of the Masters
- 25:25Speaker 1: that asked Scotty after he shot six under well, what
- 25:27Speaker 1: could he have done better? What would you leave? I
- 25:29Speaker 1: shot six hunder Man?
- 25:30Speaker 6: Like yeah, you know.
- 25:32Speaker 5: What's funny about that? Alexander komm too that that I
- 25:34Speaker 5: just thought of. He and Julio are guilty of the
- 25:37Speaker 5: thing that I think irritates a weird subset of fans.
- 25:41Speaker 5: They're really happy guys. They play and exist with a
- 25:45Speaker 5: lot of joy. I always mind defining memory of Sean
- 25:48Speaker 5: Alexander without his helmet on, is that huge already smile.
- 25:52Speaker 5: Julio plays the game with so much joy. And I
- 25:54Speaker 5: think there's a part of the fan base or just
- 25:56Speaker 5: a part of our society that thinks you're never supposed
- 25:59Speaker 5: to emotion if you're a man, and it's exhausting. And
- 26:03Speaker 5: I hope that that's not if you're listening, that's not you.
- 26:05Speaker 5: If it is, maybe think about why that is and
- 26:09Speaker 5: start learning to appreciate people who show their emotions and
- 26:12Speaker 5: let themselves feel while they're getting paid millions of dollars
- 26:14Speaker 5: to play a game.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Exactly well said, all right, Nathan goes sell some houses.
- 26:18Speaker 1: People want to need house. Nathan Bishops over there, he's
- 26:20Speaker 1: in the gold circle of sales. I saw. Congratulations, You're
- 26:24Speaker 1: kind of a big deal in the real estate world.
- 26:26Speaker 5: We are trying, sir, We're going to try to get
- 26:28Speaker 5: to the platinum this year. That's the idea.
- 26:30Speaker 1: Well done, and mile Y, I believe it's still on
- 26:32Speaker 1: YouTube if I'm not mistaken and Rotal World, is that right, Chris?
- 26:36Speaker 6: That is correct.
- 26:36Speaker 4: By the way, Speaking of golf, I'm disappointed you didn't
- 26:39Speaker 4: acknowledge my name today in the zoom change.
- 26:41Speaker 2: I did.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Duff Duffy Waldorf is the zoom chat. I just wanted
- 26:44Speaker 1: to go back. I'm like, did I miss something that
- 26:45Speaker 1: Duffy actually win a Master's. No, his highest finish and
- 26:48Speaker 1: the Master's tied for fifth and ninety six. I missed
- 26:52Speaker 1: the cut a couple of times his highest your guy, Duffy,
- 26:55Speaker 1: that that you're doing today the highest finish in a
- 26:59Speaker 1: major was indeed that the tide for fifth. He had
- 27:04Speaker 1: a top ten at the PGA.
- 27:06Speaker 9: I believe one of these times, when Chris comes in
- 27:09Speaker 9: with his name, I'll actually get the joke.
- 27:12Speaker 5: It's never gonna be anyone that was alive. Yeah, yeah,
- 27:16Speaker 5: it was famous when you were alive. Also, Chris, he
- 27:19Speaker 5: did mention it. I gotta, I gotta defend Ian's honor.
- 27:21Speaker 5: He did mention it. Your internet was on auxiliary.
- 27:24Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I did, actually earlier because I had it
- 27:28Speaker 1: called up to say, God, what did I miss with
- 27:30Speaker 1: Duffy the Masters, and he'd do something, but he like,
- 27:33Speaker 1: you know what the bet or something at something T
- 27:35Speaker 1: five and ninety six misscut T thirty one teeth well
- 27:39Speaker 1: fish same place the kid lead did yesterday who had
- 27:41Speaker 1: a tent on a hole. So that's good time for
- 27:43Speaker 1: thirty ninth. I can relate, Nathan, we can relate to that.
- 27:47Speaker 7: Huh.
- 27:48Speaker 5: I didn't shoot a nine yesterday. I played golf. I
- 27:50Speaker 5: didn't get anything over an eight. So I'm ready. I'm ready,
- 27:52Speaker 5: Augusta call me.
- 27:54Speaker 4: Shout out to the Master's food menu, by the way,
- 27:56Speaker 4: still charging a buck fifty for ice cream sandwiches and
- 27:59Speaker 4: stuff like that.
- 28:01Speaker 1: Listen, the markup on food for stadiums and arenas and
- 28:04Speaker 1: places is stupid, obscene that they now they make their
- 28:08Speaker 1: money elsewhere to the masters. Mister they need mister CBS
- 28:12Speaker 1: wrote a nice check for the rights feed, as did
- 28:14Speaker 1: Prime Video this year. All right, that's Nathan, that's Chris.
- 28:17Speaker 1: It's in the books. We'll check in with you next
- 28:18Speaker 1: week after Oh, what what they do this week? They'll
- 28:20Speaker 1: get a win today? No, no, no, they have three against
- 28:23Speaker 1: the Padres. And then who's here on sathath weekend? Is
- 28:25Speaker 1: it the Texans Rangers? What do you want to see?
- 28:28Speaker 5: What? Give me?
- 28:29Speaker 1: Give me numbers this week?
- 28:30Speaker 4: Born two four and two, four and two. They got
- 28:32Speaker 4: to have their first one in week all right, Nathan, I.
- 28:34Speaker 5: Want to see him. I want to see him beat
- 28:35Speaker 5: the Rangers in that series.
- 28:37Speaker 1: I like it too. All right, that's it. Ralph David
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- 29:33Speaker 1: This is Todd li Wiki. He joined us the other
- 29:35Speaker 1: day on the Krack and Hockey Network and we've all
- 29:38Speaker 1: kind of heard various thoughts from Todd this is where
- 29:40Speaker 1: the franchise is headed next, and his thoughts on Ron
- 29:44Speaker 1: France is departing the organization.
- 29:46Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, first, let me just start by saying,
- 29:49Speaker 10: you know, the journey this got went on with us
- 29:51Speaker 10: was really incredible. This didn't exist, well, it did, but
- 29:56Speaker 10: it was in prior form. We didn't have a name,
- 30:00Speaker 10: we didn't have a training center. He designed our locker
- 30:03Speaker 10: room here, he designed the locker room in north Gate.
- 30:06Speaker 7: He did a lot of stuff.
- 30:07Speaker 10: He helped create the name, the brand, the feeling, and
- 30:10Speaker 10: he was our founding general manager and for that we're
- 30:13Speaker 10: going to be just forever grateful. But I think we
- 30:17Speaker 10: hit a point of inflection. I think he felt it
- 30:19Speaker 10: as well, and it was a sort of a mutual
- 30:21Speaker 10: feeling that it was a good time for him to
- 30:23Speaker 10: step beside. Jason was brought in as our associate general manager.
- 30:27Speaker 10: He had been incredibly well trained you know, his whole life. Really,
- 30:31Speaker 10: his grandmother was an Olympian, his mother was an Olympian.
- 30:35Speaker 10: His sister is highly decorated. Jason was the only guy
- 30:39Speaker 10: in junior hockey in Canada to win three gold medals.
- 30:43Speaker 10: One off first round draft pick, played for a while
- 30:45Speaker 10: in the league, got concussed, one, got a master's degree,
- 30:48Speaker 10: one to the NHL, applied his trade, had an incredible
- 30:51Speaker 10: run at Pittsburgh, and then was general manager in Buffalo
- 30:55Speaker 10: and learned a lot.
- 30:56Speaker 7: So he came here.
- 30:58Speaker 10: Really is Ron's number two, and we always know that
- 31:02Speaker 10: someday would come that he would sit in that number
- 31:04Speaker 10: one share and we're that.
- 31:05Speaker 7: Day, Todd.
- 31:06Speaker 11: Let's talk about what comes next now, as you shared
- 31:09Speaker 11: with some of us this morning, and no one is
- 31:11Speaker 11: satisfied with what's happened on the ice, and you shared
- 31:13Speaker 11: some next steps.
- 31:14Speaker 1: And I don't know if maybe you and.
- 31:16Speaker 11: I are fortunate or unfortunate to have been around a
- 31:18Speaker 11: lot of consultants, but you shared that there's going to
- 31:20Speaker 11: be an audit. Can you talk about specifically what's going
- 31:23Speaker 11: on there, because this isn't Jason Botral doing his own audit.
- 31:27Speaker 7: Tell us what's happening.
- 31:28Speaker 10: Yeah, so we are going to look, we're gonna lay
- 31:30Speaker 10: eyes on everything we're doing, and we're gonna ask, you know,
- 31:34Speaker 10: hard questions. How are we structured right, how are we
- 31:38Speaker 10: training players in the off season? What more can we
- 31:40Speaker 10: do to get players to want to come here from
- 31:42Speaker 10: other teams? And it's really helpful to ask outsiders, and
- 31:47Speaker 10: ultimately I and all of this reported to our owner,
- 31:51Speaker 10: Samantha Holloway, who is a phenomenal owner. She is there
- 31:56Speaker 10: is and we've draft and done so many things, not
- 31:58Speaker 10: just with a hockey team, but so many other things.
- 32:01Speaker 10: And I believe she's going to help lead the way
- 32:03Speaker 10: for another team that it's going to play in this
- 32:05Speaker 10: building at some point in time.
- 32:06Speaker 7: So it's a.
- 32:07Speaker 10: Super healthy thing, obviously, and we're working on exactly how
- 32:11Speaker 10: that's going to work, and obviously they will work with
- 32:13Speaker 10: Jason and his team, But this is all going to
- 32:16Speaker 10: report into the owner, Make no mistake about it.
- 32:19Speaker 12: One of the big messages I took from this morning
- 32:22Speaker 12: was that you don't think it's been good enough for
- 32:24Speaker 12: the fans and that you want to do right by them.
- 32:26Speaker 12: So can you kind of explain what that fan base
- 32:30Speaker 12: means to this organization?
- 32:31Speaker 10: Well, it's everything it's our oxygen. And this is for me.
- 32:36Speaker 10: This is my second time working for the fans, maybe
- 32:39Speaker 10: the third. I helped start the Sounders, but you know,
- 32:42Speaker 10: these are incredible fans and they bought into this before
- 32:45Speaker 10: there was a name, and they took this incredible leap
- 32:48Speaker 10: of faith with us. And you know, quite honestly, we
- 32:51Speaker 10: got to do better and we're going to. And I
- 32:54Speaker 10: say that with confidence because when you look at the
- 32:57Speaker 10: body of work of what we've done and what we've
- 32:59Speaker 10: put our mind to and the excellence that this organization's created.
- 33:05Speaker 7: We got to get this done.
- 33:06Speaker 10: But I'm really confident we will because we've taken on
- 33:09Speaker 10: things and we've gotten them done. This Arena is an example,
- 33:12Speaker 10: Our training center is an example. Are Broadcast is another example.
- 33:16Speaker 10: There's just so much good that this organization's done. But
- 33:20Speaker 10: at the heart of it is the team. And we've
- 33:22Speaker 10: got to inspire this team to do better. And yes,
- 33:25Speaker 10: we're going to have outsiders. Look, but the word inspire
- 33:28Speaker 10: is so important. We've got to push our players, inspire
- 33:32Speaker 10: our players, inspire our coaches, inspire our leadership.
- 33:36Speaker 7: And that's something I've done in my career.
- 33:39Speaker 10: And you know, you don't really push people by threats,
- 33:43Speaker 10: you inspire people to do greater.
- 33:46Speaker 7: And that's really what we're going to try and do here.
- 33:48Speaker 10: We are going to have an active offseason, but we're
- 33:51Speaker 10: going to take a fresh look at everything and we're
- 33:52Speaker 10: going to we're going to assess every aspect of this organization.
- 33:56Speaker 10: You know why, because that's exactly what the fans would
- 33:58Speaker 10: want us to do. And we I work for saman
- 34:02Speaker 10: Paalo Bay, where we all work.
- 34:03Speaker 7: For the fans.
- 34:04Speaker 1: Todd, one of the things that you know obviously happens
- 34:06Speaker 1: in pro sports is you need to have great players
- 34:09Speaker 1: like you need to have good players. I think there's
- 34:11Speaker 1: a thought something we'll just wave a magic wand and
- 34:13Speaker 1: bring in a guy like Sydney crossby Connor McDavid Nathan
- 34:17Speaker 1: McKinnon and do that. It's impossible to do. You know that,
- 34:20Speaker 1: we all know that. At same time, though you mentioned
- 34:22Speaker 1: a couple of times just now with bretton also this morning,
- 34:24Speaker 1: how this offseason needs to be aggressive. What do you
- 34:27Speaker 1: want to see? What is the edict to Jason bott
- 34:30Speaker 1: Roll for this offseason?
- 34:31Speaker 10: Well, you know it's it's less of an adict than saying, hey,
- 34:36Speaker 10: what are the ways and means on which We're going
- 34:38Speaker 10: to continue.
- 34:38Speaker 1: To prove this team. It's not just this offseason.
- 34:41Speaker 10: We want to build long term, competitive, competitive team and
- 34:44Speaker 10: there's lots of examples of it across sports and certainly
- 34:47Speaker 10: in the NHL. We do have four first round picks.
- 34:51Speaker 10: You don't like it or not, and uh, but you
- 34:53Speaker 10: know we're going to have a low pick here, and
- 34:55Speaker 10: we're going to have a very low pick. And there's
- 34:58Speaker 10: some excellent players this year's draft. Our Firebirds are an
- 35:02Speaker 10: excellent indicator of what's about to come. And they're playing
- 35:06Speaker 10: very well. They've made the playoffs again. Their first two years,
- 35:08Speaker 10: they went all the way to the Calder Cup finals.
- 35:10Speaker 10: That's an incredibly well run farm team for us. And
- 35:14Speaker 10: then there are some young players here that are going
- 35:17Speaker 10: to mature and are going to be the stars coming.
- 35:20Speaker 10: How do we buttress that we went into the Olympic
- 35:22Speaker 10: Break in a playoff spot, we came out of it
- 35:26Speaker 10: and we've struggled, and that adversity actually creates opportunity for
- 35:31Speaker 10: us to ask questions and say we've got to do better.
- 35:34Speaker 10: And this is an ownership that doesn't rest on her laurels,
- 35:37Speaker 10: and we have investors, but Samantha Holloway is our leader.
- 35:41Speaker 10: She's our boss, and she wants this to be an
- 35:43Speaker 10: organization that wins in all aspects. And we've done a
- 35:47Speaker 10: lot of winning. We've won with this building. It's filled
- 35:50Speaker 10: every night, storm games, Torrent games, concerts. We've won in
- 35:54Speaker 10: the community. But we've got to win on the ice,
- 35:57Speaker 10: and that's her charter.
- 35:59Speaker 11: Todd, you mentioned excellence, and that's a theme you shared
- 36:01Speaker 11: again this morning, of the pursuit of excellence. Talk about
- 36:04Speaker 11: how that is part of the identity of what has
- 36:07Speaker 11: been built and now what needs to be built fully
- 36:10Speaker 11: across all parts of the organization.
- 36:11Speaker 7: Well, we've worked. I've worked hard.
- 36:13Speaker 10: I've been at this for eight years, and many people
- 36:17Speaker 10: thought this was highly improbable, bringing a hockey team here,
- 36:20Speaker 10: creating what I think is the most beautiful arena in
- 36:22Speaker 10: the world. I'll put this arena up against any building,
- 36:25Speaker 10: a training center. The way we have, building out the
- 36:28Speaker 10: brand the way we have, It's been hard work. This
- 36:30Speaker 10: is the next step, this is the final step. We've
- 36:33Speaker 10: got to get this team to a better place, and
- 36:35Speaker 10: I'm confident we will.
- 36:37Speaker 12: Well, I've been in locker rooms when these type of
- 36:40Speaker 12: moves have been made, and guys like you have come
- 36:42Speaker 12: and talked and we heard you went and talked to
- 36:44Speaker 12: the players before the press conference this morning, and to
- 36:47Speaker 12: be honest, it can be a shameful time as a
- 36:49Speaker 12: player because you feel kind of partly responsible for that.
- 36:53Speaker 12: So is there anything you can share with us what
- 36:55Speaker 12: the message to those players was, or what you wanted
- 36:57Speaker 12: to be and even possibly future free agent what that
- 37:01Speaker 12: message is to them.
- 37:01Speaker 10: Yeah, I think when you really look at it, and
- 37:04Speaker 10: I remember my days at the Seahawks and we were
- 37:06Speaker 10: having a little trouble getting players to come pay visits
- 37:09Speaker 10: out here, but we turn that around and the rest
- 37:12Speaker 10: is history. And so you know, there are challenges in
- 37:16Speaker 10: front of us, but none of them are insurmountable. I
- 37:19Speaker 10: think players generally love playing here, but we're even going
- 37:22Speaker 10: to work on that part of it. How can we
- 37:23Speaker 10: create a better experience for our players their families And
- 37:27Speaker 10: you know the reputation is that it rains out here,
- 37:29Speaker 10: Well it's cloudy.
- 37:31Speaker 7: I will say this.
- 37:32Speaker 10: The magazine kind of nast Day our Travel and Leisure
- 37:35Speaker 10: rather last edition in March rated Seattle is the best
- 37:39Speaker 10: city to live in in the United States and one
- 37:42Speaker 10: of the ten best cities to live in the world.
- 37:44Speaker 10: We've got to tell that story. And you know, left
- 37:48Speaker 10: to left to social media and all Seattle it rains
- 37:51Speaker 10: all the time. This is an incredible city with that
- 37:54Speaker 10: fights above its weight class and has so much to offer,
- 37:57Speaker 10: and that's in part why these other teams have and
- 38:00Speaker 10: I'm confident we're going to do the same.
- 38:02Speaker 7: Todd.
- 38:02Speaker 1: I look back. You mentioned the Seahawks a couple of times,
- 38:04Speaker 1: and for fans don't remember, Todd was the CEO of
- 38:06Speaker 1: the president of the Seahawks. When you made a move
- 38:08Speaker 1: after one year with Jim Mora and you brought in
- 38:11Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Pete Carroll worked out okay,
- 38:13Speaker 1: and John Schnodder and John my buddy worked out very
- 38:15Speaker 1: well for everybody involved. But these news moves are never
- 38:19Speaker 1: easy for you. How difficult was this conversation with Ron?
- 38:22Speaker 1: As you mentioned, the reason we're all sitting here and
- 38:24Speaker 1: this organization was built was Ron Francis. How difficult was that?
- 38:28Speaker 7: Well?
- 38:28Speaker 10: I have great respect for Ron seventeen over seventeen hundred
- 38:32Speaker 10: games in the league, you know, chairman of the Hockey
- 38:35Speaker 10: Hall of Fame, which he was a member. I mean,
- 38:37Speaker 10: really quite amazing, and so he knows how I feel.
- 38:41Speaker 10: About him, and he knows how we feel about him,
- 38:43Speaker 10: and you know, I think on his behalf, we want
- 38:45Speaker 10: to get this to a whole other level because he
- 38:50Speaker 10: worked already, He spilled blood to build this, and we
- 38:54Speaker 10: own that, we owe the fans that that's what we're
- 38:56Speaker 10: going to do.
- 38:56Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming up here today.
- 38:58Speaker 7: No what pleasure.
- 38:59Speaker 1: Not the most pleasant circus substances, but we appreciate. I
- 39:01Speaker 1: think the fans really appreciate hearing the message as well
- 39:03Speaker 1: about getting this thing back on track.
- 39:06Speaker 10: Okay, and let me just say, as the season ends,
- 39:08Speaker 10: you have all done terrific work. We're so proud of
- 39:10Speaker 10: our broadcasts. We're proud of many things, but we're definitely
- 39:13Speaker 10: proud of our broadcast.
- 39:14Speaker 1: So thank you. He was looking actually at Bretton Allison,
- 39:17Speaker 1: not me when he said that. All right, that's Todd Lightwicky.
- 39:20Speaker 1: Good stuff from him. We'll come back. Let's talk a
- 39:22Speaker 1: little bit NFL Draft with Greg Cosel coming up next
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- 40:58Speaker 1: All right, here we go, two o'clock hour, Great Cosella,
- 41:00Speaker 1: just a second talking about cornerbacks in the draft as
- 41:04Speaker 1: we get ready, by the way, a week from Thursday,
- 41:07Speaker 1: day one of the twenty twenty six NFL Draft. Huh
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- 41:18Speaker 1: your comments, your questions, your concerns about all of us
- 41:22Speaker 1: as we dodged what we had to dodge the other day,
- 41:24Speaker 1: of course, out of would be the fire of the
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- 41:30Speaker 1: you weren't here, right, you were gone. I take a
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- 41:34Speaker 1: it wasn't us. It was a chemical guys or the
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- 41:41Speaker 1: second floor guys. You know whatever, weird things they're doing
- 41:45Speaker 1: down there. Yeah, yeah, good job fell us, good job,
- 41:49Speaker 1: well done, well done. Anyway, we're on backup power, but
- 41:53Speaker 1: we're plugging away here on this Monday afternoon, so we'll
- 41:56Speaker 1: get your comments, your thoughts four nine, four to five one,
- 41:58Speaker 1: whatever's on your mind. Coming up at two thirty today,
- 42:00Speaker 1: Softy at two forty five CUC with NFL Draft, our
- 42:04Speaker 1: guy Greg Cosell. Talk to him every week. Our last
- 42:08Speaker 1: installment with him in amongst the fire Alarms everything else.
- 42:11Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of revisit that talking about the
- 42:13Speaker 1: cornerbacks in the draft, and of course that starts with
- 42:16Speaker 1: when they pick a cornerback at number thirty two with
- 42:19Speaker 1: only four picks in the draft.
- 42:21Speaker 8: You and I knowing John Schneider, you know him better
- 42:23Speaker 8: than I obviously, we know that that's going to change.
- 42:27Speaker 8: They're not going to draft four plus.
- 42:29Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent going to change. There's no doubt
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- 43:37Speaker 1: as well. All right, Greg, let's talk edge rushers today.
- 43:40Speaker 1: General thought, Real quick edge rushers this year, and actually,
- 43:43Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw this at you because we have to
- 43:46Speaker 1: go through this. Every team looks at edge rushers differently.
- 43:50Speaker 1: You talk to coaches all the time, you know, we
- 43:52Speaker 1: used to kind of think of edge rushers as the
- 43:54Speaker 1: defensive end in a four to three alignment on a defense.
- 43:57Speaker 1: That's not the case anymore. Like the Seahawks call them
- 43:59Speaker 1: out side linebackers or rush edges or whatever they call them.
- 44:02Speaker 1: Every team has a different look. What is today's in
- 44:06Speaker 1: general terms NFL edge rusher? What does he look like?
- 44:11Speaker 8: Well, I think that's team and scheme specific, and this
- 44:15Speaker 8: draft reflects that. Is that there are guys who are
- 44:17Speaker 8: true pass rushers off the edge. They have pass rush traits.
- 44:21Speaker 8: That's what they do. That's how they'll make their money
- 44:23Speaker 8: in the NFL if they're going to be good NFL
- 44:25Speaker 8: players because they can rush the quarterback. And then there
- 44:28Speaker 8: are other players who are age players, but they're not
- 44:32Speaker 8: necessarily strong pass rushers. They're powerful, they're strong, they're strong
- 44:36Speaker 8: against the run, they play with violence, they play off
- 44:39Speaker 8: contact really well. Yes they can get some sacks, but
- 44:42Speaker 8: they're not necessarily guys you would call great edge rushers.
- 44:47Speaker 8: And then there's other guys who are multi positional, and
- 44:50Speaker 8: we'll get to one of those as well in this draft,
- 44:52Speaker 8: one who can certainly line up on the edge, but
- 44:54Speaker 8: could well end up playing inside more depending upon team
- 44:58Speaker 8: and scheme. So there's different categories the in of edge rusher,
- 45:02Speaker 8: you know it, And I think Seattle is a good
- 45:05Speaker 8: example of that with someone like Derek Hall. You know,
- 45:08Speaker 8: Derek Hall. And again, I'm not gonna sit here and say,
- 45:10Speaker 8: because obviously I watched every snap, but that was a
- 45:12Speaker 8: while ago, and so I can't remember every single thing,
- 45:15Speaker 8: believe it or not. But I mean I'm not gonna
- 45:16Speaker 8: sit here and say Derek Hall never played one snap inside.
- 45:20Speaker 8: But you're not drafting Derek Hall to play inside, you know,
- 45:24Speaker 8: as a pass rusher you're playing. You're drafting him to
- 45:26Speaker 8: play outside as an edge rusher, and he obviously did
- 45:29Speaker 8: very well down the stretch.
- 45:30Speaker 1: Greg, I'll just I've got a list of guys in
- 45:32Speaker 1: front of me, but you tease me, who's the guy
- 45:34Speaker 1: you just referenced inside outside guy.
- 45:37Speaker 8: Keldrick Falk from Auburn. Keldric Fawk is a mountain of
- 45:42Speaker 8: a young man. I mean, these guys are young. I
- 45:44Speaker 8: mean I think he's twenty years old, and we forget
- 45:46Speaker 8: that sometimes. I mean, it's like watching the nca basketball tournament.
- 45:49Speaker 8: You see these eighteen year old freshmen. I mean, I'm
- 45:51Speaker 8: just blown away by the talent that they have. But anyway, fuck,
- 45:54Speaker 8: I think it's twenty. He's six six to seventy six ian.
- 45:57Speaker 8: His arm length is thirty four and three eight. He's
- 46:00Speaker 8: got a wingspan that's over eighty two. He's powerful, he's
- 46:04Speaker 8: strong in Auburn's defense, and I've watched him for two years.
- 46:07Speaker 8: He played anywhere from zero technique, which means he lines
- 46:10Speaker 8: up head up on the offensive center, to wide nine,
- 46:13Speaker 8: which means he lines up outside in offensive tackle. So
- 46:16Speaker 8: but he's not a pure pass rusher. He's a power player.
- 46:20Speaker 8: So sure he has some speed to power element to
- 46:22Speaker 8: his rush, but he's not a sudden, twitchy guy that's
- 46:26Speaker 8: going to beat you off the edge with his quickness.
- 46:29Speaker 8: So you know, he's an example of a guy that
- 46:31Speaker 8: if you draft him, you probably have you well, you
- 46:34Speaker 8: don't have to understand, you will understand if you draft him,
- 46:37Speaker 8: you will definitely know what he is. And they could
- 46:39Speaker 8: play probably anywhere along your defensive front, you know, depending
- 46:45Speaker 8: on on how you want to line up, I'll give
- 46:47Speaker 8: you an example. He's a much better prospect than Mike Morris. Okay,
- 46:50Speaker 8: Morris is the big kid out of Michigan who lined
- 46:53Speaker 8: up at defensive end in Michigan. But it's played a
- 46:56Speaker 8: lot of snaps inside for Seattle because he's he he's
- 47:00Speaker 8: so big, and he's got some physical power to him,
- 47:02Speaker 8: you know, but he's not an age rusher, so you know,
- 47:05Speaker 8: you try to find ways to use them.
- 47:07Speaker 1: Is Falk more explosive though than Morris, because I mean
- 47:09Speaker 1: Morris doesn't have much of a burst.
- 47:11Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a way better prospect. Yes, I mean Maris
- 47:14Speaker 8: was a really nice college player. And if I'm not mistaken,
- 47:16Speaker 8: it wasn't he like a fourth or fifth round pick.
- 47:18Speaker 8: I mean he was not a high high pick.
- 47:20Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 47:20Speaker 8: I was just trying to use that as a comparison
- 47:22Speaker 8: because they're both tall, they're both long, neither one is
- 47:25Speaker 8: a pure age rusher.
- 47:27Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just like looking at his numbers, it
- 47:28Speaker 1: kind of felt body type looked a lot similar to
- 47:31Speaker 1: what Morris. And Morris is a serviceable guy for Seattle,
- 47:34Speaker 1: a depth guy and and all that. Folka young guys,
- 47:36Speaker 1: you know, small town Alabama, guy went to Auburn, hasn't
- 47:39Speaker 1: left the state. Young kid, We'll see what he's got
- 47:41Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, I'm gonna jump around a little bit
- 47:44Speaker 1: when I.
- 47:44Speaker 8: Watch Folk, just to give you an example. And I
- 47:46Speaker 8: know we want to move on and get to a
- 47:47Speaker 8: bunch of guns. When I walked Falk, I thought of
- 47:49Speaker 8: Bill Belichick and how he deploys a lot of defensive linemen.
- 47:52Speaker 8: And obviously he's not coaching in the NFL, and certainly
- 47:54Speaker 8: Fulk's not Richard Seymour. But if you remember the way
- 47:57Speaker 8: Richard Seymour would line up at d n detail, he
- 47:59Speaker 8: didn up anywhere along the defensive line, and Fox not
- 48:03Speaker 8: Richard Seymour. I don't want people to think I'm making
- 48:05Speaker 8: an apples to apples comparison, but I thought of that's
- 48:09Speaker 8: that's the kind of way in which you'll be deployed
- 48:10Speaker 8: if you draft.
- 48:11Speaker 1: That makes sense. I'm gonna skip by Listen, rvel Reeve,
- 48:14Speaker 1: David Bailey, both guys ranked relyhire. I'm gonna skip by
- 48:16Speaker 1: those because Seattle's not going to get those guys or not.
- 48:18Speaker 8: That's not they're not going to be trading up to
- 48:20Speaker 8: the top five.
- 48:21Speaker 1: No, no, no, I am and a then other guy's
- 48:23Speaker 1: gonna go probably very early. But I'm just curious to
- 48:25Speaker 1: get your thoughts on him, because we all know him
- 48:27Speaker 1: and remember from the from the title or the run
- 48:29Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I would love to get your thoughts
- 48:31Speaker 1: on what you've seen from Ruben Bain Junior. We've heard
- 48:33Speaker 1: a lot. I've heard a lot about him after the combine,
- 48:36Speaker 1: the short arms, all that kind of stuff. What do
- 48:38Speaker 1: you see from Ruben ban He's not going to be
- 48:39Speaker 1: a seahawk, But what do you see from Ruben Bain?
- 48:42Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I don't have and I'm being honest,
- 48:44Speaker 8: I don't have an answer about the arm length. And
- 48:45Speaker 8: I'll tell you why. I'm going to give you a
- 48:47Speaker 8: very quick analogy which two people way smarter than I am,
- 48:50Speaker 8: and why I don't have an answer. It involves Will Campbell,
- 48:53Speaker 8: the offensive tackle for the Patriots. I heard Joe Thomas,
- 48:56Speaker 8: who obviously knows more about offensive tackle play than I do,
- 48:59Speaker 8: saying that his problems down the stretch had nothing to
- 49:02Speaker 8: do with arm length. Then I spoke to a good
- 49:04Speaker 8: friend of mine who's been an offensive line coach in
- 49:06Speaker 8: the league for thirty plus years, who said absolutely it
- 49:09Speaker 8: had everything to do with the short arms. So when
- 49:11Speaker 8: you hear two people who are really smart say that
- 49:14Speaker 8: I can't tell you what his arm length means, I
- 49:16Speaker 8: can tell you what he looks like on film.
- 49:18Speaker 5: And he's a.
- 49:19Speaker 8: Sought off, hyper competitive, hyper physical power player. He's a
- 49:25Speaker 8: fun guy to watch because he plays so hard. He
- 49:28Speaker 8: knows how to use his hands and whatever arm length
- 49:30Speaker 8: you want to give him, you know, and he's very
- 49:32Speaker 8: good at playing off contact, and there's just a sheer
- 49:35Speaker 8: physicality and toughness and competitiveness to his game. But he's
- 49:40Speaker 8: more than likely just a defensive end.
- 49:43Speaker 6: Now.
- 49:44Speaker 8: Having said that, I thought there were some similarities to
- 49:46Speaker 8: Brandon Graham when he came out of Michigan and Graham
- 49:49Speaker 8: later in his career started playing inside for Philly, but
- 49:52Speaker 8: he didn't do that early in his career. So, you know,
- 49:55Speaker 8: Bain is not an outside backer. You know, he's not
- 49:58Speaker 8: a stand up guy. He's going to drop into cover.
- 50:00Speaker 8: You know, that's not who he is. You're not drafting
- 50:02Speaker 8: him to do that. But he's a really good football player.
- 50:06Speaker 8: And there's people who believe that the arm length won't
- 50:08Speaker 8: matter because of the way in which he plays, And
- 50:10Speaker 8: I guarantee in draft meetings. There'll be others who say,
- 50:13Speaker 8: uh uh, history shows that no one with that arm
- 50:15Speaker 8: length makes it as a defensive end, which, by the way,
- 50:18Speaker 8: history shows so you're gonna have competing thoughts and competing
- 50:23Speaker 8: draft processes right there. Like I said, I love watching
- 50:27Speaker 8: him play. I don't have an answer to it. I'm
- 50:29Speaker 8: just being honest.
- 50:29Speaker 1: Greg Cozell joining his courtesy of the Hall Group. Don't
- 50:32Speaker 1: forget swinging on by the Occidental Hall before or after
- 50:35Speaker 1: baseball games this season. Five dollars smash Burger's post game.
- 50:38Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Let's stay with Miami and
- 50:40Speaker 1: talk about his teammate because he might be around if
- 50:43Speaker 1: Seattle's drafting into the first round or maybe even the
- 50:45Speaker 1: second round. Who knows. That's a key messador.
- 50:48Speaker 8: Yeah, and he's an older player. You know which teams
- 50:51Speaker 8: will have different views on that. I think will be
- 50:52Speaker 8: twenty five. He's a much juicier, more explosive off the
- 50:56Speaker 8: ball athlete than ruben Bain. He's got sudden quickness off
- 50:59Speaker 8: the ball, he can generate velocity at the top of
- 51:01Speaker 8: his past rush arc. He's violent as well. I mean,
- 51:05Speaker 8: he's the there's physicality, there's strong hands, he's got short
- 51:08Speaker 8: stroke power. He showed some speed to power. He's built differently.
- 51:13Speaker 8: Even though he's not significantly taller, he looks longer on film.
- 51:18Speaker 8: You know, he's got really good body control and balance.
- 51:21Speaker 8: He's a really interesting guy. You know, look, who knows
- 51:25Speaker 8: how this draft's going to play out, because with the
- 51:27Speaker 8: lack of quarterbacks in it, you just don't know how.
- 51:30Speaker 8: You know, players will start to come off the board
- 51:32Speaker 8: and sometimes that changes how teams do things. But Messidor
- 51:35Speaker 8: is a very interesting guy. He's he's more of a
- 51:37Speaker 8: true edge player when you think of a guy that
- 51:40Speaker 8: has true pass rush traits.
- 51:43Speaker 1: Last week we talked with our buddy Rob rang about
- 51:46Speaker 1: Zion Young and it sounds like Young from Missouri is
- 51:49Speaker 1: a guy that is I'm gonna use the word kind
- 51:51Speaker 1: of polarizing in the sense of you just said it
- 51:54Speaker 1: a moment ago. Every team looks and listen, every team
- 51:56Speaker 1: looks at every player differentely right, whether it's age, arm, length,
- 51:59Speaker 1: all these things. Zion Young kind of feels like one
- 52:02Speaker 1: of those guys is can be much debated during the
- 52:04Speaker 1: draft from Missouri. What do you see from him on tape?
- 52:07Speaker 6: Yeah, because I think.
- 52:08Speaker 8: He falls more into that category I mentioned when you
- 52:10Speaker 8: asked me initially about you know, edge players. I think
- 52:13Speaker 8: he's more of a prototypical four to three D N
- 52:16Speaker 8: in a foundational four man D line front. His staple
- 52:19Speaker 8: strengths are power and physicality and working his hands. He's
- 52:23Speaker 8: not a twitchy, sudden guy. Doesn't mean he can never
- 52:26Speaker 8: sack the quarterback, but he doesn't have that higher level
- 52:28Speaker 8: bend in flexibility, so he wins kind of as a
- 52:31Speaker 8: pass rusher with methodical power and hand placement. But he's
- 52:35Speaker 8: six six two sixty two. You know, he's a big man.
- 52:38Speaker 8: He looks big on tape. He's very good at block reconstruction.
- 52:42Speaker 8: In the run game, he can set the edge. But
- 52:44Speaker 8: you know, to me, you don't draft him and say
- 52:48Speaker 8: he's now my age rusher. This is the guy we're
- 52:50Speaker 8: going to count on that other teams are going to
- 52:53Speaker 8: account for when they play us. He's not that guy.
- 52:56Speaker 8: But he's a good football player. He's just you know,
- 52:58Speaker 8: I'm a big believer Ian and you'll appreciate. To me,
- 53:01Speaker 8: you've got to understand what a guy is. It's like
- 53:03Speaker 8: in baseball, okay, with free agency, when a guy is
- 53:06Speaker 8: in a lineup and batting seventy hits thirty home runs,
- 53:09Speaker 8: and then some team signs hup to big money and
- 53:11Speaker 8: wants to bat him third, thinking he's going to do
- 53:14Speaker 8: exactly the same thing. You know, it doesn't always work
- 53:17Speaker 8: like that, you know it you sort of to me,
- 53:20Speaker 8: you have to have a sense of what a guy is.
- 53:22Speaker 1: Well. The thing with young that's interesting about him is
- 53:26Speaker 1: again probably what scheme specific in a sense as well,
- 53:30Speaker 1: and as we're talking about, yeah, as we're talking about
- 53:33Speaker 1: edge rushers and you know, which is as Greg articulated
- 53:36Speaker 1: and kind of defined at the start of the segment,
- 53:39Speaker 1: it's it's wide ranging and what looks like, see, I
- 53:41Speaker 1: don't have the best defense statistically in the NFL last year, Greg,
- 53:44Speaker 1: as you well know, their top sack guys were in
- 53:47Speaker 1: the two guys in the interior both with seven sacks. Yep, Like,
- 53:51Speaker 1: this is not a team Mike McDonald, I don't know
- 53:53Speaker 1: if he's looking for, like that that speed edge rusher
- 53:57Speaker 1: that we've come to know and talk about over the years.
- 54:00Speaker 8: It may not be the priority. I mean, I'm sure
- 54:02Speaker 8: if there was one that he you know, was there,
- 54:04Speaker 8: Like you know, depending on what they choose to do
- 54:06Speaker 8: with their draft picks, you have someone like Malachi Lawrence
- 54:09Speaker 8: from UCF. I have no idea how how John Schneider
- 54:12Speaker 8: or Mike McDonald feels about Malachi Lawrence. But he's not
- 54:15Speaker 8: likely to be a first round pick. And if you
- 54:17Speaker 8: really like him, you know he's that he's that kind
- 54:21Speaker 8: of guy. He's got some length to him. He's a
- 54:23Speaker 8: good rusher, plays the run pretty well. He's like a
- 54:26Speaker 8: he's a solid edge rushing prospect. But you know, Zion Young,
- 54:30Speaker 8: just to give you an example, because you know we're
- 54:32Speaker 8: both a little older, and we go back to football
- 54:33Speaker 8: from a few years ago, back in the day when
- 54:35Speaker 8: we used to look at a four to three d
- 54:37Speaker 8: N and say he's a strong side d N. He plays,
- 54:40Speaker 8: you know, over the tight end.
- 54:41Speaker 12: Man.
- 54:41Speaker 8: We used to say that about guys that to me
- 54:43Speaker 8: is Ion Young. Okay, who's Iion Young is to me?
- 54:46Speaker 1: Well, and that's and I when I bring up just
- 54:47Speaker 1: kind of how they look at it, like it feels
- 54:50Speaker 1: like they they do everything kind of by committee up
- 54:52Speaker 1: front a little bit too. And Zion Young might fit that.
- 54:54Speaker 1: But let's talk about malt Let's go back to Malachi
- 54:56Speaker 1: Lawrence from UCF and what you see from him.
- 54:59Speaker 8: Yeah, he would. I didn't know much about him at all.
- 55:01Speaker 8: In fact, a very good friend of mine at the
- 55:02Speaker 8: combine told me about him. Obviously, UCF's not necessarily on
- 55:06Speaker 8: you know, TV all the time I did, so I
- 55:08Speaker 8: didn't see much of him at all, didn't know a
- 55:09Speaker 8: lot about him.
- 55:12Speaker 5: I liked him.
- 55:12Speaker 8: I thought he showed some knock back power in his hands,
- 55:14Speaker 8: in his arms, which is very good in the run game.
- 55:17Speaker 8: I thought he could stop and redirect. He's a plus athlete.
- 55:20Speaker 8: He's over sixty four, he's over two fifty, he's got
- 55:23Speaker 8: good arm length.
- 55:25Speaker 6: You know.
- 55:25Speaker 8: I think that he's he showed some tools in his
- 55:28Speaker 8: toolbox where he has to work on some things, and
- 55:31Speaker 8: they all do, by the way, so it's never a
- 55:32Speaker 8: knock on a player on a prospect, their prospects to
- 55:36Speaker 8: say they have things to work on. He's got to
- 55:39Speaker 8: work on playing off contact, reworking his hands, which is
- 55:42Speaker 8: very common, by the way, for college pass rushers, because
- 55:45Speaker 8: they don't do that a lot in college. He reminded
- 55:49Speaker 8: me a little bit of and I'm sure we talked
- 55:51Speaker 8: about this guy last year. He was a rookie this
- 55:53Speaker 8: year in Carolina named Nick Scourton who actually played a
- 55:56Speaker 8: lot in Carolina and played well toward the end of
- 55:59Speaker 8: the season. He reminded me of Nick Goarurton quite a bit.
- 56:01Speaker 8: But I like Malachi Lawrence.
- 56:04Speaker 1: How about Cassius Howell from Texas A and M.
- 56:06Speaker 8: Now there's another guy that has an arm lenge, major concern,
- 56:10Speaker 8: but he is super juicy. I mean, this guy is.
- 56:14Speaker 8: He may be, along with David Bally, the two most
- 56:19Speaker 8: explosive edge players in this draft in terms of just
- 56:22Speaker 8: exploding off the edge. I mean, this guy is, that's
- 56:26Speaker 8: just who he is. I mean, he is super quick,
- 56:30Speaker 8: He's got explosive get off, he's got first step twitch.
- 56:34Speaker 8: I mean, this guy challenges the high side of offensive tackles,
- 56:37Speaker 8: meeting the outside shoulder as quickly as you can can
- 56:40Speaker 8: do it. And he's he can do some things off
- 56:44Speaker 8: of that. He's got that one arm stead. He plays
- 56:47Speaker 8: as if his arms are longer. That's the odd thing
- 56:50Speaker 8: he plays because there's times when he uses his arms really,
- 56:53Speaker 8: really well. Now you could also say he's always had
- 56:56Speaker 8: short arms, So you know, that's the thing. You know,
- 56:59Speaker 8: guys know what they are, right and you know know
- 57:01Speaker 8: what they are. When you play sports long enough, you
- 57:04Speaker 8: know what you can do. And what you can't do.
- 57:06Speaker 8: But this guy is I think he can play in
- 57:08Speaker 8: a five to two base as an outside backer. His
- 57:11Speaker 8: coverage ability is very, very good. But this guy is
- 57:15Speaker 8: he's explosive and he's terrific as a looper in stunts
- 57:19Speaker 8: because he's got that short area of burst. He's got flexibility,
- 57:23Speaker 8: and man does he have closing speed.
- 57:25Speaker 1: We got a couple more guys we get in time
- 57:27Speaker 1: to hit on as well. How about ar Mason Thomas
- 57:28Speaker 1: out of Oklahoma.
- 57:30Speaker 8: Yeah, he's he falls a little more into the catcher's
- 57:34Speaker 8: hell category, although he doesn't weigh as much and that
- 57:36Speaker 8: shows up. But he's another guy that has some juice
- 57:39Speaker 8: to him. I don't think it's at the same level
- 57:40Speaker 8: of Howel And he weighs a good ten twelve pounds less,
- 57:44Speaker 8: and sometimes that shows up on film when you know,
- 57:46Speaker 8: because don't forget you weigh two forty As an edge rusher,
- 57:50Speaker 8: you're giving up, you know, seventy pounds to pretty much
- 57:53Speaker 8: every offensive tackle you're going against right now. They know that,
- 57:56Speaker 8: of course, so you know there's you know there's and
- 58:00Speaker 8: these guys know that and they know how to deal
- 58:02Speaker 8: with it. I like our Mason Thomas but I don't
- 58:04Speaker 8: think he's at the level of prospect is as let's say,
- 58:07Speaker 8: Akeshus Howell, even though he'd fit into the same box.
- 58:10Speaker 1: Is it Gabe Jackis from Illinois? Is it Jackus? Yeah?
- 58:14Speaker 8: I think he's more like Zion Young personally. I know
- 58:17Speaker 8: there's a lot of different shatter about him, you know,
- 58:21Speaker 8: and some people really really like him because he's just
- 58:23Speaker 8: you know, he's one of those guys you come away
- 58:25Speaker 8: and go he's a good football player. But I think
- 58:27Speaker 8: he's his game's built on power and physicality more than
- 58:30Speaker 8: higher level athleticism. He's nowhere near as long as Ion Young,
- 58:34Speaker 8: which you know that's a concern. But he's not an
- 58:36Speaker 8: explosive guy. He's kind of more measured and methodical. He's got,
- 58:40Speaker 8: you know, what I call a rugger, rugged and forceful demeanor.
- 58:43Speaker 8: He you know, he plays the way you want a
- 58:44Speaker 8: guy to play, and as a pass rusher, his foundation
- 58:48Speaker 8: would be speed to power, but he really doesn't have
- 58:50Speaker 8: a deep arsenal of moves and counter moves, so you
- 58:53Speaker 8: can teach that. But I see him a little more
- 58:56Speaker 8: as kind of that strong defensive end type, although he
- 58:59Speaker 8: did play a lot of five too at Illinois. So
- 59:02Speaker 8: it's very possible that teams that whose base is a
- 59:05Speaker 8: five to two will see him as a five to
- 59:07Speaker 8: two outside backer.
- 59:09Speaker 1: Is that basically a Seattle Is I always the Seattle
- 59:11Speaker 1: five to two?
- 59:13Speaker 6: No?
- 59:14Speaker 1: Okay, okay, it feels like they have I mean, they
- 59:17Speaker 1: got the two linebackers.
- 59:18Speaker 8: You know, they look they do a lot of things obviously,
- 59:20Speaker 8: you know, yeah, all.
- 59:22Speaker 6: Right, they do a lot of things.
- 59:24Speaker 1: Derek Moore out of Michigan. We saw a lot of
- 59:26Speaker 1: Michigan football the last few years. Hell, we still saw
- 59:28Speaker 1: a lot of Michigan basketball, if I'm not mistaken Greg,
- 59:30Speaker 1: the last few days. Michigan. We live in Michigan's world.
- 59:33Speaker 1: We're in Michigan's world. We're just living in it right now,
- 59:35Speaker 1: I think is what it is. But I do remember
- 59:38Speaker 1: what this is a guy I think with every college
- 59:39Speaker 1: football fan, every football fan knows the name Derek Moore
- 59:42Speaker 1: out of Michigan. He's he's ranked a little lower by most.
- 59:44Speaker 1: I think he probably is a second or third round
- 59:46Speaker 1: pick maybe, so definitely a Day two guy. But what
- 59:49Speaker 1: do you see from Derek Moore?
- 59:50Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 59:51Speaker 8: I liked him, and I saw him last summer too.
- 59:53Speaker 8: He's a strong age defender, His game is primarily strength
- 59:56Speaker 8: in power. Now he knows how to use his hands well,
- 59:59Speaker 8: and he's got long arms. I mean he's six four,
- 1:00:02Speaker 8: two fifty five. His arm length is over thirty three inches.
- 1:00:05Speaker 8: He knows how to use it in both the run
- 1:00:07Speaker 8: game and as a pass rusher. He really knows how
- 1:00:10Speaker 8: to place his hands, you know, without going into the
- 1:00:12Speaker 8: weeds on that they teach you when you use your
- 1:00:16Speaker 8: first hand strike as a pass rusher, where to put
- 1:00:18Speaker 8: it on the offensive tackle. And he knows exactly where
- 1:00:22Speaker 8: to do that, and he can drive guys back into
- 1:00:24Speaker 8: the pocket. You know, I think he's a four to
- 1:00:28Speaker 8: three guy, but I think he could be another five
- 1:00:30Speaker 8: to two guy, if you know, if you see him
- 1:00:32Speaker 8: that way. But I liked his tape. I mean, I
- 1:00:35Speaker 8: think I think he's You're right, he's just a good player.
- 1:00:38Speaker 8: He won't go in round one, but he could be
- 1:00:40Speaker 8: one of those guys that ends up, you know, in
- 1:00:42Speaker 8: two years, three years, we're talking about Derek Moore being
- 1:00:44Speaker 8: a starter somewhere.
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this because we just got a couple
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: of minutes left. Analyst choice, Who do I need to
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: Who does Seahawk fans need to know? Is it I'm
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: just trying. I'm going through here.
- 1:00:56Speaker 8: Is it Krafft further down the road?
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: Crawford from Auburn? Is it? Height from Texas Tech.
- 1:01:02Speaker 8: He he fascinates me because he has not played.
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: Guy which one? Which one is that?
- 1:01:07Speaker 8: And he he's a guy that to me will be
- 1:01:09Speaker 8: an as sending player because he now, you know, obviously
- 1:01:12Speaker 8: he played you know, off in opposite folk sometimes they
- 1:01:15Speaker 8: end up on the same side. But this kid, you're
- 1:01:18Speaker 8: talking about a kid, now that's juicy. I mean, this
- 1:01:20Speaker 8: kid's an athlete.
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: Which kid is that? We give you two names? I'm sorry, Greg,
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: which which kid is that? Key run Cross from Auburn? Okay?
- 1:01:27Speaker 7: Perfect?
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead.
- 1:01:28Speaker 8: Yeah, he's he's a sudden, twitchy athlete. He's got explosive
- 1:01:31Speaker 8: get off. He can instantly challenge the high side. I
- 1:01:34Speaker 8: mean I think he needs, you know, he needs work
- 1:01:37Speaker 8: because he didn't play football until his senior season in
- 1:01:39Speaker 8: high school and then started his career at Arkansas State.
- 1:01:42Speaker 8: So I mean he's, you know, obviously hasn't played as
- 1:01:45Speaker 8: much football as most guys when they get to this level.
- 1:01:47Speaker 8: But I think there's a lot there to develop. And
- 1:01:51Speaker 8: again I don't get to know these players. So I
- 1:01:53Speaker 8: can't tell you how much he picks up or doesn't
- 1:01:56Speaker 8: pick up. But you know, if all signs in that
- 1:01:59Speaker 8: regard are really strong, it would not surprise me if
- 1:02:03Speaker 8: this guy in two years, three years, we are really
- 1:02:05Speaker 8: talking about it. Because he is a juicy guy.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: I like. I like the term juicy by the way,
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: that sounds good.
- 1:02:10Speaker 6: I like that.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: I'm getting thirsty actually thinking about that right now. You know,
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: we got another we got another think we got another
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: sponsor called No Brewing. They have a big and juicy beer.
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: I'm thinking about that right now. What about Dennis Sutton
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: from Penn State? Do you like him?
- 1:02:24Speaker 8: I think he's more like Zion Young, you know. I
- 1:02:26Speaker 8: think he's a good, really good player.
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:02:29Speaker 8: I think he's gotten a little better as a pass
- 1:02:31Speaker 8: rusher as he's progressed at Penn State, and he played
- 1:02:34Speaker 8: that extra year. He could have come out last year.
- 1:02:36Speaker 8: But I think, but all said and done, he's not
- 1:02:38Speaker 8: a true pass rusher. So I think he's another one
- 1:02:42Speaker 8: of those sort of solid defensive ends, like if you
- 1:02:45Speaker 8: had a big time stud on the other side, and
- 1:02:48Speaker 8: you know who could rush the quarterback and he played
- 1:02:50Speaker 8: on the other side. You know, he'll defend the run,
- 1:02:52Speaker 8: he'll set the edge, he'll do all those things that
- 1:02:54Speaker 8: are obviously critical. But no one gets excited about your
- 1:02:57Speaker 8: fans I'm talking about. But you know he's a good
- 1:02:59Speaker 8: football player.
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: That is great. Co Sal talking about edge rushers. Here,
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- 1:03:42Speaker 1: Let's go here, we go to tank for Juju next
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: year talking w NBA draft. Okay, oh, she's she set
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: out the entire year, right, she did. Yeah with the
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: knee injury because she got hurt in the final four
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: last year. Correct. Yeah, he's a stead Yeah. It doesn't
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: say something about a league in a sport and the
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: third overall pick in the draft to describe as being
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: just Okay, I described Olivia Miles is just okay, I
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: mean she's I don't know. I will watched enough. It's
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: probably unfair of me. I just watched the UDUB game,
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: the UB tournament game when they played the TCU. Okay,
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: like Becker's juju jumped off the jumped off the screen
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: when you watched him play in college, Right, just jumped
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: off the screen in college. Angel kind of the same
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: way in a sense. Right, I mean that's absolutely right.
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: So anyway, we'll see, we'll probably like I said, I'm
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: gona try to get somebody on tomorrow. Oh, let's see.
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. What do we got here? Apparently MJ
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: said the other day Friday, I believe that if forget
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: the Sonics back, we should forgive them, that we should
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: forgive the thunder. Softy shared his thoughts, what about y'all.
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: My thoughts are very ernest Jones, Like, if you think
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: I'll forgive you or forget twenty years no Sonics basketball,
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: blank you, I'd go along those sentiments. Yeah, yeah, I.
- 1:05:07Speaker 6: Don't.
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: I thought I had a conversation with Mark on air
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: about in cross talk about the Thunder, but I don't.
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: I don't think the term forgive was ever used. Yeah,
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: I think he said, well, you just kind of ignore
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: move on. I go, well, I think it's an automatic rival,
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: which I love. I honestly love that. Yeah, I said,
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I've kind of left them. I
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: just haven't really cared about them the last few years.
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: The first year they went to the finals, I'll be
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: honest with you, I was stressed. Yeah, I was rooting
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: so hard against because that was literally like the team
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: the Sonics could have been in a few years. That's
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: why yes, four years after Yes, last year, that's what
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: it's a totally different tea. You don't even care. Yeah,
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: I just I mean, I'd rather them never win. I
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: wish they would go to eighty two every year. But
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: I long long since forgot about that. Not forgave anybody, No,
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: I don't forgive anybody for that. I mean, we went
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: twenty years. We're gonna go We're gonna go a minimum
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: of twenty years without the NBA.
- 1:06:10Speaker 9: I went my entire sports youth slash formative years without
- 1:06:17Speaker 9: an NBA team, Right, do.
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: You think that will affect you how when the NBA
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: comes Sack.
- 1:06:22Speaker 9: I would have been a massive fan and still would
- 1:06:23Speaker 9: have been and now I just don't really you've.
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: Got other interests, yeah, like because like just for for
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: people like Andrews is a big Premier League guy.
- 1:06:31Speaker 9: Right, yep, I got soccer. I've been getting into NHL lately.
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: You I'll give you credit. You not only have you
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: been getting into it, you've you've developed a pretty good
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: knowledge of it, Thank you, and a lot of strong
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: opinions about it. Oh yes, someone which drive me nuts.
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: But but no, it's but you know what, like you've
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: you've got other stuff and you're a huge baseball guy.
- 1:06:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: So I think it is an interesting thing because the
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: NBA when it does come back, what well the you know,
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: how how will it relate to the younger fans? And
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: I say it from this standpoint, God, I gotta find this.
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: There was a thing Dwight James texted yesterday, my buddy
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: Dwight down in Portland, and it was talking about one
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: of the one of the games last night. I mean
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: it was embarrassment. What was on the floor, like just
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: an absolute embarrassment. And I bring that up for this reason.
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: In what way, like nobody was playing okay, like nobody
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: was playing. And I think because the first few years
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: the team's going to be bad. Like, understand that the
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: first few years the NBA team is not going to
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: be good, Like they're not going to be a Vegas
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: gold Knights to make the playoffs every year. They're not
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: even going to be the sadle cracking and make the
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: playoffs in the second year probably, Like it's probably going
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: to take a while. But I wonder how that's going
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: to play here with a younger fan base, because the
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: younger fan base would be enthralled with and I think
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: a lot of people would be would be like, hey, man,
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: like I can't wait to watch X play or why play?
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: Or this guy play? Well if those guys are sitting
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: out games all the time, especially, think about this, this
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: is really doomsday thought, Hey, we're coming to Seattle. They're
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: four and twenty five this year. We don't have to
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: play our dues tonight, right, Yeah.
- 1:08:24Speaker 9: Because the first couple of years, it'll definitely more be
- 1:08:26Speaker 9: about who they're playing against. I get to see some
- 1:08:28Speaker 9: of these NBA stars.
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: And what if you spend a zillion dollars on ticket
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: and those guys aren't playing? Yeah? Right.
- 1:08:34Speaker 9: I do like what they did this year though, and
- 1:08:36Speaker 9: made it a sixty five game minimum to be.
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: Eligible for awards.
- 1:08:39Speaker 9: Yeah, and that kind of has made the oh I'm
- 1:08:44Speaker 9: gonna sit off because of a sora amstring kind of
- 1:08:46Speaker 9: stuff go away, because especially like the guys that really
- 1:08:50Speaker 9: want to be eligible for like MVP, Comeback Player of
- 1:08:52Speaker 9: the Year, all that stuff, you gotta play.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the way it goes. I'm just like,
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: I can't find it.
- 1:08:57Speaker 7: But it was.
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: It was yesterday. It was like in the last year,
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: see the last day of the Regulus season.
- 1:09:01Speaker 9: I get it right, right, and we'll see I mean,
- 1:09:02Speaker 9: I'll see that in hockey now too, if you look
- 1:09:04Speaker 9: at some of their lineups that they're putting out because
- 1:09:06Speaker 9: of teams that are either eliminated or already in the playoffs.
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: Right yeah, I mean, and but you see it for
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: the final game or two, right, like you see this
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: throughout the year in the NBA. Now, I was pointing
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: out something from yesterday. Sure, but yeah, man, I don't know,
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
- 1:09:20Speaker 7: It just.
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: It's an interesting thing you said there, though I hadn't
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: thought of it. In most regards to all the people
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: that are your age that grew up without it around here,
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: are they just going to roll in and all of
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: a sudden be huge fans now and here's what so
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: my son is and he still follows the NBA now right, Yes,
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: but I think that's because that was his sport. Like
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: he played it. You weren't a basketball kid now, and
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: like he played it a lot high school, au the
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: whole nine yards. I think maybe he was more in
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: tune with it. Yeah, and I but I think, but
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: not everybody is that. Like if you grew up and
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: you're a soccer guy, or you're a baseball guy, or
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: you're just you know whatever guy, you may not be
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: an entralled with.
- 1:10:05Speaker 9: Well, in full disclosure, durined like the twenty tens, that
- 1:10:07Speaker 9: Steph Curry, you know, Kevin Durant, Lebron James, you know peak.
- 1:10:11Speaker 9: I was a pretty big basketball fan. I was watching
- 1:10:14Speaker 9: the finals every year. I was like all in on that,
- 1:10:16Speaker 9: the Warriors dynasty, the Scroers when they were like, I
- 1:10:19Speaker 9: just have lost the last like five or six years
- 1:10:21Speaker 9: I've lost.
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be interesting. Playoffs start this week. I
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: love this time of the year. Yeah, when we got
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: the NBA and the NHL playoffs starting next weekend. I
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: think the NBA has a playing game the next couple
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: days too. But yep, yeah, when that gets going, would you, hey,
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: would you be in favor of playing for the NHL
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: or not? No? Yeah, I think I don't. I would
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I think a bigger picture, but I
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: think and I don't want to be a hypocrite because
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: I said the same thing today. I you finish, if
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: you finish eighth, you shouldn't have to play a tenth
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: place team as a playing game. You finished eighth. That's
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: I think the bigger question in the NHL was would
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: you go back to one one versus eight? I think
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: that as opposed to having like two teams that have
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: well over one hundred points playing Minnesota Dallas, those are
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: probably two of the three best teams in the league. Yeah,
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: and they're playing each other in the first round, right,
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: That is crazy to me. I mean, I guess the
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: only thing and it usually works out most of the
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: time where the top eight teams usually get in.
- 1:11:21Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: Now the East could have a little bit different this
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: year the Eastern Conference NHL may that might not be
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: the case with the division.
- 1:11:26Speaker 9: Yeah, because there's a couple of really good East teams
- 1:11:28Speaker 9: that right west, they would have been in like all
- 1:11:30Speaker 9: that stuff.
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: But if you went yeah, because you just mentioned it,
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: it's it's kind of an interesting thing. If if you
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: went with the one versus eight, you'd have Colorado versus
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: La Dallas versus Anaheim, Minnesota versus Edmonton, which makes a
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: ton of sense in Vegas in Utah. Although Vegas winning
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: the division, they might be the NFL like thing, and
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: they might be the two seeds. So I don't know that. Yeah,
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: it's weird. Yeah, it's weird. The the NBA is interesting. Forgive,
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think when I talked to Mark,
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: he didn't use that word. Okay, so I will give
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: because I would say, no, forgive. I'm a petty You
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: have a very petty individual when it comes to the
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: NBA and the sonics. Forgive is not in the vocabulary,
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: not the repertoire. No, all right, let's take a preak.
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll check in with Softy next. Already that,
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, here he is.
- 1:12:38Speaker 7: Softy Moller.
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: The last time we were supposed to do this, it
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: was canceled because there was a fire alarm going up.
- 1:12:45Speaker 13: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that would be very annoying.
- 1:12:49Speaker 8: Man.
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: It's like the movie Dumb and Dumber, right, Oh yeah,
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: the most annoying. Well, and that's and that's why we
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: were looking forward to doing cross talk because it would
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: have just sent you nuts.
- 1:13:03Speaker 13: Well, we should do a contest here on the radio station. Okay,
- 1:13:05Speaker 13: have the alarm go off and have somebody sit here
- 1:13:07Speaker 13: in the office and see how long they can take
- 1:13:09Speaker 13: it before their ear start.
- 1:13:11Speaker 9: I thought you were going to go, how'd the alarm
- 1:13:13Speaker 9: go off for five minutes? Have softy talk for five minutes.
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: And then just what's right out there? You go, Well,
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: we were on there for eight minutes with an alarm
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: run off.
- 1:13:21Speaker 13: But I've always said, and you know this, being the
- 1:13:23Speaker 13: radio veteran that you are basically means you're old as
- 1:13:27Speaker 13: you are. Some of the greatest ratings in radio are
- 1:13:29Speaker 13: when your station's off your ear yes, and people tune
- 1:13:32Speaker 13: in and they hear dead air and they want to
- 1:13:34Speaker 13: know when you're coming back. It's unbelievable. I did that
- 1:13:37Speaker 13: driving home. Oh go what, because I bet you are numbers. Friday,
- 1:13:40Speaker 13: We're through the roof, I'm listening. I'm listening to some
- 1:13:42Speaker 13: god awful show on Fox. Oh come on, And I
- 1:13:46Speaker 13: mean it's really bad and whatever whatever would be playing
- 1:13:48Speaker 13: if you weren't on.
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: So I'm listened to that thing. I mean it was bad, dude,
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: I'm just telling you anyway, I'm listening to this and like,
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: when's Softy coming on? And how is he going to
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: handle this? Because You're right, I wasn't going to I
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: had to stop on the way home. I wasn't gonna
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: get out of the car. I want to hear what
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: happened when you came on and things weren't working.
- 1:14:05Speaker 13: Yes, well, and then I was waiting to hear if
- 1:14:08Speaker 13: it was some kind of a human uh uh forced
- 1:14:12Speaker 13: malfunction like a Curtis crabtree, a scenario when Curtis spilled
- 1:14:17Speaker 13: a seven up on the old studio board die Coke,
- 1:14:20Speaker 13: die Coke wor Donalds, a big one like the jumbo
- 1:14:24Speaker 13: size one.
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: H right, like the old Were you here when that happened? Enters?
- 1:14:27Speaker 7: Yes?
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: I literally that was like the second week that I
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: was here.
- 1:14:30Speaker 13: And that cost the radio station like fifteen thousand dollars whatever,
- 1:14:34Speaker 13: a lot of money.
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: Terry Ryan, God, what did you do here?
- 1:14:39Speaker 11: Man?
- 1:14:40Speaker 5: Come on?
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: So the did the talk backed button here was stuck?
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: That was stuck.
- 1:14:44Speaker 13: Apparently something got stuck inside there. That was Thursday cross time.
- 1:14:47Speaker 13: Now that was Thursday, so Thursday cross off. That was
- 1:14:51Speaker 13: back in the day we used to be able to
- 1:14:52Speaker 13: blame food from New York Vinny's beard. Yeah, getting caught
- 1:14:55Speaker 13: in the microphone and the old windscreen. Uh the old windscreen,
- 1:14:59Speaker 13: Uh not like the one we have no one. Yeah,
- 1:15:01Speaker 13: the foam one discussed that would cover the entire microphone.
- 1:15:04Speaker 13: I would come on at seven o'clock at night, and
- 1:15:07Speaker 13: I kid you not, the thing was moist, moist, disgusting,
- 1:15:11Speaker 13: all right. I mean just think of the guys that
- 1:15:14Speaker 13: were breathing into that all day long. My guest, you know,
- 1:15:18Speaker 13: Dave Grosby, New York, Vinnie, Michael Knight mitching the midday
- 1:15:22Speaker 13: back in the day, Michael Night was Brian Wheeler, was it?
- 1:15:25Speaker 13: I mean, dude, you could have a whole dinner plan
- 1:15:27Speaker 13: just based on what was inside that microphone.
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: Was that that was Night and Vinnie in the morning
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: or what it was?
- 1:15:33Speaker 13: Oh my gosh, Mikey Night, Mikey uh, Michael Knight, New York,
- 1:15:37Speaker 13: Vinie Richichi uh doing morning shows doing remotes from McDonald's.
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: So that was fun back in all. Wow, that's awesome.
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: Is unbelievable would roll in.
- 1:15:47Speaker 13: I would roll in for a noon show at eleven
- 1:15:49Speaker 13: fifty nine and go out the door at three oh one, which.
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: Is kind of what I do now. Yeah, I mean
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: I can't believe.
- 1:15:55Speaker 13: Hey, way, No, I'm glad to hear that nothing blew up.
- 1:15:57Speaker 13: You know that's good. I think we're all good. Big
- 1:15:59Speaker 13: Jen Raider truck outside the office.
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: Well, I'm sitting in here and we're waiting to go on,
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: and like everyone's leaving right, And we've had this happen before.
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: We had it happen on the other side, the same
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: building on the side either this is right before COVID
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: and I remember we walked in and Puck and I
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: would do the show. And Rich is like, he's like, oh,
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: you guys are fine. No, it actually wasn't talking. Is
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: me and Shocky and me and Shaky's in the other rooms,
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: him and I and things going off? Do we need
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: to leave? And Rich goes, no, you guys are fine.
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: Purpose she it's like, you guys are fine. Shocky looks
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: at me, I'm okay, we're fine. We're hanging out here.
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: And then about ten minutes later, like like literally, a
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: fireman came upstairs, he goes, you guys need to leave.
- 1:16:40Speaker 13: Well, you remember this building is cursed. Man, it's not
- 1:16:43Speaker 13: the first time it's happened. You guys probably watched the
- 1:16:46Speaker 13: Cheronoble series on HBO. Did you watch that, by the way, Yes,
- 1:16:49Speaker 13: phenomenal series, fantastic. Right, So there's a there's a part
- 1:16:52Speaker 13: you're thinking there's a nuclear meltdown here. There's a part
- 1:16:55Speaker 13: of the series. And I don't know if this is
- 1:16:56Speaker 13: accurate or not. I assume there's a chance that it is.
- 1:16:59Speaker 13: Where the Russian government, I guess, asked two people to
- 1:17:04Speaker 13: basically sacrifice their lives to go underneath the reactor and
- 1:17:08Speaker 13: dig a trench. And they knew that whoever those two
- 1:17:11Speaker 13: dues were was they were never going to make it out,
- 1:17:14Speaker 13: and if they did make it out, they were going
- 1:17:16Speaker 13: to be, you know, basically done right within days.
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: That's what you and Shocky were. That's what we were.
- 1:17:22Speaker 13: We got to have two people stayed before we're going
- 1:17:24Speaker 13: to be here, all right, the end the place.
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: And that's what I told, Okay, that's why I told
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: Jim's sacrifice for it has some job. That's that's what
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: I was telling Jess. Jeff was like just like, we
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: gotta leave right now. I go, No, we're fine, We're
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: all good. She goes, They told us to go to
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: the north end of the building. This is the north end.
- 1:17:40Speaker 13: When you hear about an electrical fire or whatever it was,
- 1:17:43Speaker 13: I mean, there is a concern that the building is
- 1:17:45Speaker 13: going to blow, you know, like you hear about houses
- 1:17:47Speaker 13: having gas leaks.
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: I found out. I found out today from.
- 1:17:50Speaker 13: The fact that you guys were actually hanging outside the
- 1:17:52Speaker 13: building as close as you were. Shock the hell out
- 1:17:55Speaker 13: of me, except I'm an Jimmy's I was more than
- 1:17:59Speaker 13: I The one guy who's got the car left, he
- 1:18:01Speaker 13: took off, took off for you. But the team player,
- 1:18:05Speaker 13: I think we're there. You guys are fine. Well, the
- 1:18:07Speaker 13: funny thing is I coming today in purple, she says.
- 1:18:09Speaker 13: I said, we're just starting. He goes, Well, you know
- 1:18:11Speaker 13: there's this who was on the second floor. They deal
- 1:18:14Speaker 13: with chemicals. That's right, that's right.
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: So that sherre noble part that you just mentioned two
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: floors below us that actually could he I saw something
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: crawling up the.
- 1:18:22Speaker 13: Wall last week that may be coming from the second floor. Man,
- 1:18:25Speaker 13: who knows? So anyway, what do you do today? Last
- 1:18:28Speaker 13: day of no Dick. We get Dick back tomorrow. Okay, yeah,
- 1:18:31Speaker 13: so hum Ellon's in today. We're gonna talk to Watson
- 1:18:35Speaker 13: from the Golf Channel and the Masters obviously recap the
- 1:18:37Speaker 13: Masters talk about how terrible CBS's camera coverage was yesterday.
- 1:18:42Speaker 1: Can't find it.
- 1:18:44Speaker 13: We'll talk to Bill Krueger at five when the Mariner
- 1:18:46Speaker 13: game is over against the Astros. We'll do a little
- 1:18:49Speaker 13: fun with audio, little textimonials and uh one.
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: Of three final cracking games?
- 1:18:55Speaker 6: Is that?
- 1:18:55Speaker 11: Right?
- 1:18:55Speaker 6: Three?
- 1:18:55Speaker 7: Left?
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: Last?
- 1:18:57Speaker 3: All?
- 1:18:57Speaker 6: Right?
- 1:18:57Speaker 13: Tonight Wednesday, Thursday? Why is tonight's game at six thirty?
- 1:19:01Speaker 13: Its on ESPN Plus or they can't do seven o'clock.
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: It's you know, you talk about it for you. I
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: like being on it. Okay, O, good, you're very happy
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: about that. No TV, no local TV. So it's a
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: good night all the way.
- 1:19:16Speaker 13: Is that why you're here doing a makeup?
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: Put your foundation on it? You have a makeup person,
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: by the way, Well she sets us up at the
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: start of the year, really, and you're gonna wear it
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: the whole year? Well no, no, she gets us. Here's
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: here's what we have, like with a kit, Yeah, she says,
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: here's what you have here's what you gotta put on
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: your face. Here's how you do it. They got to
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: match the colors. You gotta match your tone, your skin tone.
- 1:19:42Speaker 13: I'm not surprised that you need hours, by the way,
- 1:19:44Speaker 13: to cover that face.
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: I think I did put makeup on you once. Do
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: you know that? No, I don't, I do, I don't.
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: It's for the promo and Fox thirteen.
- 1:19:50Speaker 7: That never ran. That story was never.
- 1:19:53Speaker 5: Supposed to come out.
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: That was a weekend in face, all right. Didn't take
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: as long to put it on you as it again,
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: Curtis see for
- 1:19:59Speaker 13: The mild and marginally objectionable e in fornous this paddle day,
- 1:20:04Speaker 13: saying so long everyone,