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- 0:11Y'all know we gotta go crazy on uh spring game because we need to overreact
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- 0:37end today and we're gonna dive into the most brutally honest takes when it comes
- 0:42from the screen game, like who was good? Also who was bad?
- 0:46And what the heck do we need to do in order to move forward.
- 0:49We're also gonna talk about the latest commitment and it sounds like we got upwards
- 0:53of five of those. We'll break that down also as well, So collective
- 0:58gentlemen, Happy Sunday, thank you for pulling up Cool. What's up Chris
- 1:02PG? Go around the horn with the how's it going today? PG?
- 1:08Knock it off? Okay, I guess we're going around the horn. Startle
- 1:14find me at the PG show. A little sunburn wins the softball game today,
- 1:18so ignore my pak lips. Hey you guys some find us horns Down
- 1:23podcast a little bit, uh, you know turned after last night? It
- 1:27was a really good, nice night free games. Spring game weekends for me
- 1:32always pretty crazy. So yeah, glad to be here, hecks you,
- 1:37Glad to have you cool. Yo. Hey, all I gotta say is
- 1:44if you if you watch that weekend and you are grumpy, elf, take
- 1:52a long walk outside, get some to go, go, you know,
- 1:57eat some fiber. There's there's a lot of reasons just not there's a lot
- 2:00to be happy about today. I'll tell you. I'll tell you something that
- 2:02would really cure any grumpy people out there. Just go and look what's going
- 2:07down there down south. You know all the propaganda being put out by our
- 2:15arrivals down there. Yeah, we got to talk about that. But what's
- 2:16good everybody. Thank y'all for pulling up per the norm. We've got a
- 2:21lot of fun stuff to talk about. Let me go ahead and open it
- 2:23up with this though. I want to go ahead lead us off with the
- 2:25opening ramp. I don't know how this happened. I'm actually kind of a
- 2:31little upset. How in the hell did we lose to Oklahoma? I could
- 2:35have sworn we looked at our schedule and saw that we were gonna win this
- 2:37game. All need answers to how we lost to Oklahoma. Right, it
- 2:40didn't make any sense. Oklahoma should not have won, and we should not
- 2:46have lost to Oklahoma. It's kind of wild to me that that would actually
- 2:49happen to us at a spring game. So yeah, I'm pretty upset that
- 2:52Oklahoma won that game since we had that notated that we were gonna win this
- 2:55one. Right, this is this is something that should have happened. But
- 2:58besides that, we'll take care of some housekeeping real quick. I mentioned that
- 3:02we have sounds like upwards of five commits potentially, Kevin Sperry tweeted out at
- 3:09least four times, three of them for his current you know, class of
- 3:14twenty five, and one of them that's not. And then we got ourselves
- 3:17an offensive lineman in which everybody was, you know, wanting about that we
- 3:21needed. We got ourselves a center in Branson Hickman. So we're gonna talk
- 3:24about them on the back end of the show because I want to dedicate majority
- 3:29of the time on all of these takes that I know everybody has hot.
- 3:35We're gonna start with some offense, will break down some of that. We'll
- 3:38go through some of the position groups there. Then we'll go through defense,
- 3:40maybe interchange a little bit, but we'll try to keep it lined up offense,
- 3:45defense and give you guys some feelings. And so I'll tee us off
- 3:49here on my initial impression offensively, keeping it simple. I'm actually satisfied with
- 3:59what we got going on. The offensive line didn't piss me off like I
- 4:01thought they would. The running game gave me maybe a couple of questions here,
- 4:08but we should all be thanking Purdue right now. If you live in
- 4:11Indiana, please drive up to the campus holding a sign saying thank you from
- 4:15us. If you don't live in the area, please send them a postcard
- 4:17say thank you. We appreciate you all. You all are fantastic for giving
- 4:23us the opportunity to snatch up teon Burg. So we'll go around the horn
- 4:27per the norm PG give me your first one minute or less impression on it,
- 4:31and it we'll go position to position. Yeah, as you said,
- 4:34the offensive line I played a lot better than I thought they would based off
- 4:40what you were hearing from scrimmages and practices. I think we expected it to
- 4:44look rough around the edges, but in reality, they played a lot better
- 4:46than I think a lot of people expected. And the defensive line, I
- 4:50was actually impressed with a lot of the depth guys that they have in that
- 4:56room and how they were able to perform what they looked like. So we're
- 5:00all going into the SEC. I think this program is going to be just
- 5:02fine. Chris, what's your state your initial impressions of how things went down?
- 5:09Said it once and I'll say it again. I'll say it three times
- 5:12if I have to shout out to my guy Jason on the Hall of Fame
- 5:15Football podcast, but definitely will say this. This team has the has all
- 5:20it takes to be a ten plus win team this year. But PG,
- 5:27I'm sorry. Offensive line is gonna have to be better. They're gonna have
- 5:30to figure some things out going into the SEC. There are obviously there's some
- 5:36missing guys there, some guys that are not healthy. You just got Hickman
- 5:39today. You got some things that you're gonna have to work on. We
- 5:42all trust beating both. But I think going into the SEC is the turn
- 5:46of the next to the next page in the next chapter. We gotta be
- 5:50able to field our best unit right off the bat. We can't wait until
- 5:56Texas anymore, because we're gonna have a lot of heavy hitters. I think
- 6:00that if our old line. And obviously I'm sorry to sound like a deably
- 6:03downer, but like I said, I sayd I said it once, I'll
- 6:06say it twice, our offensive line is gonna have to figure it out.
- 6:11And I think that's the that's the unit I trust more than the special teams.
- 6:15Punting and kicking are steel terrible. Like, I don't know what to
- 6:18tell you. You're gonna lose games on special teams this year simply because I
- 6:25think you'll be a threat in a punt game when you're returning and kickoff returns.
- 6:29But when it comes to punting and kicking field goals, I think they
- 6:33are major liabilities. They have not fixed that yet. So that being said,
- 6:39I mean that's just kind of my initial thoughts right now. Outside of
- 6:43that, I think I think everything else is fine. You have the true
- 6:47allah competitive death right. You have all of the talent and in there and
- 6:53everything that you need to be a successful uh you know, have a successful
- 6:59entry year to the to the SEC. But those two things have to be
- 7:02shared up for me to really believe that we can, you know, go
- 7:06and do accomplish the things that were setting out to accomplish. Cool, give
- 7:12me your womanute or less. What's your initial reaction, and then we're going
- 7:15to start right into the offensive line. Yeah, this was a job interview.
- 7:20This was working out for pro Day. This was scripted. You know,
- 7:25there wasn't going There was no blitzes. You know, they didn't run
- 7:29any crazy, they didn't do any three three man fronts. I mean,
- 7:31they ran a pretty base. There was such a mix up of people.
- 7:35I mean, you know, Danny Stutsman almost kills a walk on receiver and
- 7:42and you know first down conversion and I was like, shit, who was
- 7:46that? And then we realized who it was and I was like, oh,
- 7:47that's okay, we can we can kill a walk on receiver. Danny's
- 7:50gonna have to back off. But here's what it is is we are bigger,
- 7:56we are stronger, we are faster, and we still have stuff to
- 8:01work on. Yeah, hundred percent. But I asked mister Bates to show
- 8:07up and be a man and take this seriously and show me what you got
- 8:11and I and I'm happy because he knew Hickman was on campus. And so
- 8:16I love the fact that there was joy in this team and there was so
- 8:22much you know, the parents. We talked to so many parents this week,
- 8:26and there's there's just an like there there's a confidence in this team that
- 8:30they're gonna go and they're going to take it to people. And so yeah,
- 8:33I mean you if you if you're not getting jacked about that kind of
- 8:37stuff. I mean there's a there's a lot to talk about still, but
- 8:41I'm very happy right now. Good, that's good. And in that same
- 8:45boat or whatnot, I'm satisfied with the offense. I know that we have
- 8:48a lot of questions that honestly got answered to tell us, Yes, we
- 8:52need help on as we're gonna begin this offensive line. We know what we
- 8:56need help there, We got help. We got a Hickman comany in Venables
- 9:00mentioned that Gary and Hatchett will be ready to go here I think right at
- 9:05the end of the school year. So that's two big additions to the line.
- 9:09Junie, Yeah, yeah, JUNI is so two big additions to the
- 9:13offensive line that we really needed. To get going and again again health wise,
- 9:18we expect that Troy Everett will be ready potentially fall camp. I've heard
- 9:24rumors around it being past the out of the out of conference schedule, but
- 9:30there's so many things there that could work so offensive line wise, interior wise,
- 9:33I don't. I didn't. I didn't really feel a problem there.
- 9:35I felt like the tackles was where we had the most questions, and mainly
- 9:41on that right side, Fabichi looked like fabii wu. He was doing a
- 9:46lot of moving on people. I don't. I don't. I'm not as
- 9:50stressed out as everybody else is on the offensive line because it's Bill Beatenbone.
- 9:54Now, granted I could be wrong easily and I will not refute that,
- 9:58but it's beaten It seems like he finds some magical way to put together a
- 10:03nice set of things out of the kitchen and give you a four course gourmet
- 10:07meal that you didn't even know all those ingredients were even in there. Right,
- 10:11he just makes something out of nothing, and we got to accept that.
- 10:15So offensive line wise, as we move across it, I'm guessing both
- 10:20Jake's aren't their sex and looks like they're playing him. Interior on the level
- 10:26guard to help Baits, but now we got Hickman. I'm kind of curious
- 10:30to how that's gonna go if they decide to move Baits over into like the
- 10:35guard next replace Oseda, so that you know, he can help Hickman learn
- 10:39everything. I'm kind of curious to what that mix could be like. But
- 10:45overall, that's where we need the most work, and we've got one of
- 10:48the best guys doing it, so I'm not too mad. We'll go reverse
- 10:50coop offensive line who jumped out to you? Like I said, I will
- 11:01say, spin down looks pretty bad. And and this is guys, this
- 11:05isn't this isn't blasting any any kids, but this, uh, he looked
- 11:11bad and and that's frustrating. Uh. You know, I've talked to a
- 11:16couple of Michigan State people and they were like, let me get ready because
- 11:20he's not he's he's a little bit of a headache. And so but you
- 11:24know, I like Jake Taylor. You know, I got to see,
- 11:26you know, a lot out of the offensive line. I came back and
- 11:30watched an abbreviated version of the game late last night, and you know,
- 11:35he was forty minutes and I took about two hours to watch it, So
- 11:39you know that looks good. I mean, Bates didn't seem like there was
- 11:41anything there. That second line is is what bothers me. So Chris,
- 11:46where I don't entirely agree that the offensive line of concern the depth is a
- 11:50concern because you know, I'm not going to sit here and dog textas to
- 11:54say, like, hey listen, one offensive line injury and you guys are
- 11:58gonna be hurting, like we're in that same boat. But Akin Kumi comes
- 12:01back, you know again towards uh, towards fall camp, you get the
- 12:07other injury guys and then hopefully, you know, maybe somebody else. But
- 12:11you know, the offensive line that that first unit looked pretty good. Like
- 12:15I said, with mixing in ones, twos, and threes throughout the whole
- 12:18time, you know that that that's it's they did pretty good for that.
- 12:24Now, there were times that the guys were just we're just one and that's
- 12:28gonna happened. But when you're playing each other, anytime you see something good
- 12:31on the defense, you know, everybody's like, what's about the offense.
- 12:35But every time see some you know, Dean Burks go down the field.
- 12:37I was like, well, what's up with the defense? We play ourselves,
- 12:39We're going to beat ourselves too, kind of the the tongue in cheek
- 12:43Jay on the opening. So, like I said, I mean, the
- 12:48offensive line still has a lot to work. You know, if we started
- 12:50the season today, I would not be as smiley. But Jay, you
- 12:54and I talked to a couple of people and the offensive line took took a
- 13:01lot of this criticism and they have it's put a chip on their shoulder and
- 13:05they're going out and spending time together. They are learning each other, they're
- 13:09learning more about each other, and so you know, let's see, you
- 13:13got a lot of smiles, you know from a lot of the parents,
- 13:18a lot of a lot of the the younger guys are going to get more
- 13:24play, more play, more play throughout the summer. So yeah, I
- 13:28mean, if there's a coach that you want to be in charge of that
- 13:30we got. We got the right line. That' to that too. The
- 13:35one thing I like to try to point out on a regular basis, Yeah,
- 13:39I'll hear we say this a lot. We're young, like right,
- 13:41like, we're very young, and the offensive line is the second lowest amount
- 13:48of snaps we returned from last year, whereas the defensive line, especially h
- 13:52the actually defensive line is the least that we've returned. Actually vice versa.
- 13:58Offensive line is the least we returned, or defensive line is second right behind
- 14:01it, so least amount of snaps. So it looks like it, right,
- 14:05it looks like these guys don't have the snaps and hens. Why you
- 14:07saw the rotations of the players we got because literally we're just getting them snaps
- 14:15now at this point at a quote unquote pace that feels like a game,
- 14:18right, Chris, offensive Line. I know that you've got super concerns,
- 14:20but who jumped out to you that you feel like it's fine? And then
- 14:24where do you think we need to really fix? I mean, obviously,
- 14:26the interior looked pretty damn good, and I mean they had those spurts or
- 14:31whatnot, and then you saw a lot of action from the from Hicks,
- 14:37from Sawchuk. You saw them be able to get loose, You saw Franklin
- 14:41be able to bother and weave and be able to move through the trash as
- 14:43well. So you saw some really good interior play. But that's kind of
- 14:48my concern, Coop. I would go back to kind of your point is
- 14:50simply this right here, For the last two or three seasons, we've came
- 14:54in with an offensive line that was strong at either tackle or in here.
- 15:00You're was supposed to be good, but it was just that unit, right
- 15:03it was. It was never like the complete offensive line all the way across
- 15:09the board. And I'm not saying that's what needs to happen, but for
- 15:11the last couple of years, it's just been frustrating seeing Andrew Rayne be your
- 15:18center and see the obvious obvious strength and and and just or lack of that,
- 15:24you know, lack of that aggression of this physicality stuff like that.
- 15:28You're thinking that, okay, saving you on Bird, this guy, that
- 15:30guy is gonna be able to step up and be Those guys just never materialize.
- 15:35And so now to go out and get some of the guys that you
- 15:37did in the portal, guys with experience, because I've said it, I
- 15:43feel like, not only do you have a lot of talent, because uh
- 15:48Edd perre Lewis Louis how you say it. Then you got Autrey, you
- 15:54got Eugene Brooks, you got guys on that line that you're really excited about
- 15:58as far as their future here with this program, but to go and get
- 16:02Tarquin, to get the hatchet, now get Hickman guys like that. I
- 16:06expect this offensive line to be a complete product by the time that we get
- 16:11to Temple, simply because I know who the coach is and I know what
- 16:15he's going to give, and I know the talent, and so I just
- 16:18feel like, this isn't the first year. This isn't twenty twenty two when
- 16:23we're trying to just be cool and we got you know, some holdovers and
- 16:26different things like that. This isn't twenty three where we're going on a redemption
- 16:30tour. It's twenty four. We got to set a tone going into the
- 16:33SEC and it's got to be physical in the trenches. And I think you're
- 16:37going to This is not me being dooing with gloom saying that we're gonna be
- 16:41bad. I think we're ten game win season, ten game win team anyway,
- 16:48simply because thanks from Jackson Arnold. That helps me feel comfortable at night.
- 16:52Meaning whenever I watch a quarterback, especially in his second year or his
- 16:56first year, right when I watch a quarterback, I'm looking for pocket presence.
- 17:00Is he running out of pocket too? Early doing the Spencer route with
- 17:03things or is he trying to bob and we get moving through the traffic himself,
- 17:07moving up in the pocket and try to find guys and doing different things
- 17:10like that. That's the stuff that I'm looking for. And I see the
- 17:14progressions that he's making in his development, so that helps me feel better.
- 17:18Then. Also, I would be a fool not to think that Seth Latreill
- 17:22is not going to be running a lot of stuff with Boer sharp and running
- 17:26heavy sets when Jake Roberts or Caden Helms or any of those guys get healthy
- 17:32as well. Where you're seeing, hopefully it'd be nice to see, oh
- 17:34you finally use twin sets that they ever could again. But at the same
- 17:38time, I think you're going to see heavy personnel out there, so there
- 17:41are things to look for. But I just feel like as the offense as
- 17:45a whole offensive line, with what you have on campus right now, there
- 17:49ain't no excuse that I can make for you what it's spring, So I'll
- 17:55say that that's fair PG. Who jumped out to you and what what concerns
- 18:00come to you as well for this offensive line? Yeah, I mean way
- 18:03wu I think is the guy that stands out the most, and he's the
- 18:07guy that you've heard a lot about. He's the guy that you expect to
- 18:10be the All American. And I want to break it down for people by
- 18:14the numbers. And here's why I don't believe this offensive line, if you
- 18:18don't get anybody else outside of Hickman, is going to be that bad because
- 18:22I texted a oh you mom yesterday and I said, your offensive line is
- 18:26probably gonna look like Hickman, Heathoseta, Way Wu, Tarquin and Section.
- 18:33That's probably what you're rolling out in the fall. Jacob Sexton last year not
- 18:41his best year, he had a fifty two point six pass block, but
- 18:44the year before that, which was his really good year, he was eighty
- 18:48four point two. So he's probably gonna be somewhere in the middle. And
- 18:51somewhere in the middle is pretty good. Way Wu last year sixty point five
- 18:55on the grade for pass block and seventy five point five in the run block.
- 18:59I gave him a seventy point four overall. And Tarquin. When this
- 19:03guy was at Florida, he was phenomenal. But even last year at USC
- 19:07he was graded out totally at sixty two point eight. So you get him
- 19:11back playing at a position that he's used to playing, Tarquin probably performs a
- 19:15little bit better for you. So I think this offensive line for Oklahoma,
- 19:21by just inserting Hickman as a replacement for your center, with those guys,
- 19:26that's a good serviceable starting five for you up on the front. And it's
- 19:30likely going to be an offensive line that's going to give Jackson Arnold lots of
- 19:36coverage because they all have pretty decent passplot grades. That's fair. That's fair,
- 19:41and it's very fair at when you look at the numbers itself and how
- 19:45and how actual solid they came out, And so I like that. Let's
- 19:49go on to the quarterback, Jackson Arnold, Michael Hawkins general Booty. Guys,
- 19:57Booty, maybe he's the second street quarterback. Hey man, look,
- 20:02I mean, that's a great hot take, but I'm gonna keep it a
- 20:03buck though. Jackson Arnold, I Christ you made mention of this, and
- 20:07I appreciate you pointing this out. He looked comfortable in the pocket for the
- 20:11most part. Right, He had his moments where that defensive line was really
- 20:15getting their pressure in, but for the most part he didn't freak out like
- 20:18I didn't see him trying to get rid of the ball instantly or panicking.
- 20:22It looked comfortable, and so he finished the game ten for twenty two thirty
- 20:25three, two touchdowns. And of course the relationship with his wide receiver seems
- 20:29to be amazing, because this literally reminds me of last season with Gabriel and
- 20:33Andre Anthony. He's just out of nowhere, you know, the transfer guy
- 20:37comes in and dominates. We'll talk about them next, but I'm gonna say
- 20:41this. I got a quick hot take on it. Hawkins didn't look all
- 20:44that great numbers wise, five for twelve, but he looked good in the
- 20:48pocket. Right, you gotta remember who he had. He had the second
- 20:51string piece milk line that he had to work with. He moved well,
- 20:53he looked down the field and was throwing it. I think we're safe with
- 21:00the second string this year. I think we don't have any reasons to be
- 21:03overly concerned like we're used to, right, we typically are. We were
- 21:06nervous last year, right for the most part, you know, because Jackson
- 21:10was a freshman before that, we were terrified, and which we showed that
- 21:14against Texas. We looked so much better with our quarterback depth, and of
- 21:22course Booty got some runs and he ran in for a touchdown, was wiggling
- 21:26everywhere, which I'm pretty impressed with. We'll go with you, Chris.
- 21:27We'll start off, man, how'd you feel about Jackson Arnold? Elaborate more
- 21:30on your statement about how you liked to weaar his pocket presence. Man,
- 21:34his poise was there at ten for twenty. I'm just gonna be honest with
- 21:37you that that's you know, a lot of people not even mentioning the fact
- 21:41that he had he had a couple of drops. There was a bunch of
- 21:42drops out there there there I say, I say bunch. There were a
- 21:45few key drops out there. Awesome place. But as far as being able
- 21:51to see the field, see his guys, see his guys open, I
- 21:53thought the timing and everything was fine. Only only only downside of ice was
- 22:00that he took a couple of covered sacks. Guys just weren't open. But
- 22:04I think that just comes with time, just figuring things out. But as
- 22:07far as timing on the passes with his receivers beaning a good connection, it
- 22:11looks like he has. Now. I know that Burke's had what was a
- 22:15focal point, but it looks like he has a really good relationship with with
- 22:19Gibson as well, which I mean, I can't say enough about Gibson.
- 22:25I mean, night and day. I mean, he doesn't he looks way
- 22:27different than what he did last year. Just I mean, and that's that's
- 22:32that's what the college game is really about, man. And take that from
- 22:36somebody who played it, went through all the mental hurdles and all the rest
- 22:40of that stuff. If you have your confidence, it doesn't matter about the
- 22:44Alamo Bowl again. So you know, with with Jackson Arnold, if you
- 22:48have your confidence, there ain't nothing you could do. You already done it.
- 22:51You've done the hard part, getting the scholarship, You've done the hard
- 22:53part. Now you're on the field. Now go ball out. But with
- 22:56Jackson Rnol, I feel like the throws everything. I mean, it's it's
- 23:00all that I could ask for. Thank you, DG for everything that you
- 23:06did. But it's time to go with something now for sure, and I'm
- 23:08talking about more than just a big twelve where SEC championship. I think that
- 23:11he Jackson Donald Jackson wal showed me everything that I need to see yesterday and
- 23:18I think that he's going to be to refer this year, and I definitely
- 23:22think that those lists where he's, you know, top twenty quarterbacks and he's
- 23:27number seventeen, I think that's crazy. Now, I'll just leave it at
- 23:30that. Losing their minds on that one PG talk Tommy Jackson, Donald Michael
- 23:36Hawkins, general booty, even a little bit of Brendan Zurbrug. He got
- 23:40a little bit of action. How are you feeling about that? Yeah,
- 23:42and Zurbrug had a pretty impressive pass on that last drive. But no,
- 23:48I mean second string quarterback. I think it's I think it's a real,
- 23:51actual quarterback battle, and it's gonna be interesting to see when Casey Thompson gets
- 23:56back, you know, does he actually cemit himself as the second string or
- 24:00is this guy gonna be more of like a quarterbacks coach that's kind of on
- 24:03the team, helping guys out. Does Hawkins take that role? That's kind
- 24:07of what I'm curious to see is when Casey Thompson comes back, what is
- 24:11the storyline changed too, Because honestly, I would like to see Hawkins get
- 24:15red shirted. I would like to not have to play him outside of maybe
- 24:18just a few games this season. Even if Jackson Arnold is out for at
- 24:22least one game, right, I would I would rather see Booty or Casey
- 24:27Thompson out there rather than having to burn a red shirt for Michael Hawkins.
- 24:32So, but I think the quarterbacks position is gonna be really well. I
- 24:34mean, Jackson ARL's gonna have a lot of weapons and we saw that in
- 24:37this game. So he just didn't put up arch Manning type numbers. Yeah,
- 24:41he wasn't just super perfect, And I don't feel like we've scripted it
- 24:45for him to do that. Coop. Yeah, I'm glad somebody else feels
- 24:48that way that maybe that was a little scripted. Hey hey if a couple
- 24:51people have pointed out that some things looked like they were done on purpose.
- 24:55But you know, I digressop quarterback. Why the first down pass of the
- 24:59game and that that look like that dB gave up really early? Right?
- 25:03Cool? QB, who are you feeling about these guys? I mean,
- 25:07you know, Casey Thompson is what we didn't have year one with DG and
- 25:12so that is somebody who knows what they need to do. And uh yeah,
- 25:18So I mean I just I just say Jackson throws the ball different.
- 25:25You know, if you have not listened to a breakdown yet. Uh.
- 25:29I hate, I hate, I hate, hate, hate, hate hate
- 25:32Gabe for stealing my thunder on this one. But I I think I looked
- 25:36at Jay when he overthrew Burks, and I thought that might be the first
- 25:41time that Burke has ever been overthrown, because there's no more moonshots on deep
- 25:45balls, you know, to where you're like, geez, I'm glad we're
- 25:48not at Cowboy Stadium because that would have hit the you know, hit the
- 25:52jumbo tron. But Jackson just throws a dart, and you know, with
- 25:56that, he has the opportunity to, uh to really you know, wait
- 26:00a little bit longer to make sure that he's got it. He's got a
- 26:03good look. But Dede Westbrook, I mean, Dion Burks looks like an
- 26:10absolute star, and I mean, I can't even I can't even begin to
- 26:14think how that's going to help Jackson, especially with you know, when everybody
- 26:18else comes back. But yeah, so ten for twenty and so Jackson did
- 26:23notice a couple of times to where he went through his reads, and I
- 26:27know two of the times where he threw the ball in the ground, you
- 26:30know, kind of like when a you know, a penalty gets called,
- 26:33the quarterback just tosses it at the ground. He did three of those,
- 26:37and and I like that because he looked around. Instead of forcing something,
- 26:41he just lived to fight another day. And you know it, it was
- 26:45tough. He looked, He looked very He looked a lot bigger like as
- 26:49far as it's just physical stature, and he also he also looks pretty quick.
- 26:55I mean when he was running around, it was terrific. Hawkins.
- 26:59You know, I would say this is yeah, you you want him to
- 27:00go, You take a seat, get his full games in. You know,
- 27:04the family understands how things are going. Michael, you know, grew
- 27:08up in an NFL locker room, so he knows all those things. So
- 27:14we are in that spot is is Yeah, Jackson needs to continue to go
- 27:18up. He's going to have to make quicker decisions on you know when they
- 27:21do have an r P O piece. But I don't know when I felt
- 27:26better going into a season than than I do now at quarterback. And you
- 27:33know, we've got lots of talent behind him too, So I mean,
- 27:36if anything does happen, hopefully you know, we get the opportunity to see
- 27:41Casey Thomas, Tom Thompson. How how's Casey Thompson going to look with with
- 27:47this receiving corps and the tight end and the running back like is you know,
- 27:49I don't hope not. I hope our offensive line could hold up if
- 27:52he ever came in. But you know it looks good across the board.
- 27:56Yeah, go ahead. I was just gonna say two things real quick,
- 28:02just to piggyback off of what Coop was saying. I was sitting there next
- 28:07to my uncle and when he was, you know, throwing those touchdowns to
- 28:10Berks, I kept screaming, in stride, in stride, oh my god,
- 28:14you have But second point is the second thing I want to say is,
- 28:21first off, shout out to Casey Thompson because coming back from an acl
- 28:26especially playing you know, quarterback, even going through a lot of these nun
- 28:30contact drills because I mean, we know the Bridgewaters of the world and stuff
- 28:33like that. Shout out to him even being out there on the field.
- 28:36You know, Uh yeah, I mean, I think Casey Thompson is going
- 28:42to be great for us in whichever role. But Coop, I'm not gonna
- 28:47lie. When I was looking at Hawkins, I was thinking myself, I
- 28:49was like, man, we we may not red shirt him simply because he
- 28:56may give us an option in the in the red zone. That's true,
- 29:00pends if our office of live is it great, I guess, But because
- 29:07I'm thinking maybe you want to do like some speed option or something like that,
- 29:11you know, some design runs for him. I mean, I think
- 29:15he utilize his speed if you can't, but I think a jet sweep.
- 29:19Could we do a jet sweep with Michael Hawkins. I'm I'm gonna go ahead
- 29:23kick you off the panel for that. It was the second play on the
- 29:32second team Jay and I said it right before it was it was it's funny.
- 29:34I was like, wouldn't it just be funny just to throw shade at
- 29:38Levy to uh just run jets sweep first play of the game. And we
- 29:42didn't do it, And then the second team offense came out and they did,
- 29:45and I was like, I just just want you to know ou fans
- 29:49will be ready to call for latrelle In Finley's head if they do that in
- 29:55the season. If they do that this season, they will their heads will
- 29:59be called for because though you fans ain't having it, I really hope that
- 30:02we just go ahead and troll and do that the first play. I mean,
- 30:03why not man as well? Sound like fun to me? Right yep?
- 30:07Oh no, I mean, I mean I just say it. But
- 30:10anyway from there, love that talk on the quarterback stuff. Hey, y'all,
- 30:14hop in the comments. Let us know your thoughts. We appreciate y'all.
- 30:15We see the interactions going fantastic stuff. We'll pull y'all in as we
- 30:19see fit. I want to go ahead and just jump right to that wide
- 30:22receiver room because I've been playing this video just because I just love it so
- 30:26much, and as I watch it every single time, it just you know,
- 30:30puts this massive like smile on my face. As I watched this.
- 30:33Dude, Dion Burks is that dude. I'm just gonna have to say that
- 30:37Dion Burks is the dude right Like, nothing about him tells me that he
- 30:42ain't. As we going to wide receivers, y'all, it's funny that this
- 30:48is our second transferred dude to be able to walk in there and just be
- 30:51like, yeah, this is what I want. But we also didn't have
- 30:53Nick six. He didn't play. Jake Gibson was catching some tough passes.
- 31:00He was doing his part and then you saw ginormous I even carry on.
- 31:04I don't know if y'all noticed him down there at the bot dos huge.
- 31:08I didn't realize he was that big, Like he looks solid. So yeah,
- 31:15make sure y'all send postcards, send letters, thank perdue for their contribution
- 31:19to the future of a sooner a civilization with the Dion Burks peaks. Because
- 31:25get Coop even mentioned this, I'm gonna let him say his statement in a
- 31:27bit he was talking about at the game. But man, Burk's is gonna
- 31:32change the gay for us, so we'll go with you, Coop. How'd
- 31:36you feel about these wide receivers? I mean, Burk's him. And if
- 31:41anybody was wondering how stupid I was for saying I think BUR's is a first
- 31:45round draft pick wide receiver. Uh now, let's let'm gon back it back
- 31:51a little bit. Burke's he is that good, He is that fast.
- 31:56Now, Jade Hardy took an absolute god awful angle. I think they were
- 32:02in to cover three and he took a bad, bad angle, and the
- 32:07other one can it dropped the wrong way. So obviously, if you don't
- 32:10have a player where you're supposed to have a player during Cover three, Chris,
- 32:14it ain't gonna work too well and so but Burke's Burke's is most impressive.
- 32:19Were not the deep balls. There were there were some you know,
- 32:22there were some overs that uh uh that the two of his catches, you
- 32:27know, Jackson Arnold hit him, hit him, and Dad comes stride and
- 32:30it was beautiful. Listen, I'm not gonna he's good. Yeah, ive
- 32:37and carry on. If we invited him into the chat or into the screen,
- 32:40you know, Ivan's body would be like, hey, guys, thanks
- 32:44for inviting me to the podcast. I really appreciate it. I mean,
- 32:49and he looks like when you had the the college football Games of old and
- 32:53you try to create your own player and you made your wife. He looks
- 32:58like that, and especially in that twenty four jersey, I mean, it
- 33:00just looks like somebody recreated Marcus Major at six foot six. But he uh
- 33:07and you know, we saw him come up. He came up right in
- 33:09front of us when right before women down on the field, and and he's
- 33:15it's just he's just enormous. And so I would say that, I would
- 33:20say, you know, you got Kearney. We got to talk to his
- 33:22parents for a little bit too, and you know he had a he had
- 33:27a pretty bad drop, but you know he looks great out there. Jaden
- 33:31Gibson, Jayden Gibson and Dion Burks are going to get U are going to
- 33:37create some personal fouls because it is absolutely, absolutely, absolutely crazy just to
- 33:46think that, like those guys were jawing at everybody. Gibson was Gibson was
- 33:52bouncing. He was one of the captains for the offense, and he's bouncing
- 33:53and he's talking trash. For the coin flip it was, it was beautiful.
- 33:59Burks is talking trash, I think was it Burk's and can II Walker
- 34:04got in it several times and the official actually pushed them apart, and you
- 34:08know, I'm like, damn, Like it reminded me of Kobe Bryant just
- 34:10dunking on peal gasol. So this wide receiver room, I mean, Jay,
- 34:17have you ever considered maybe getting Emma Jones raise, because I mean,
- 34:23you know, I've been thinking about it. I felt like it's probably some
- 34:29good conversation that we should do that, you know, we should totally talk
- 34:34about him getting a raise, Chris. When you see the wide receiver room
- 34:36and what they were doing, man what's good man, I hate look.
- 34:38I first let me begin with this right here. The look, the caliber
- 34:47and the quality of the player, but especially the look. Man, you
- 34:51gotta give it to Smitty Man because he Smitty is doing his damn thing.
- 34:54Bron like, year three is crazy, but I want to touch on carry
- 35:00on first man. Coming into the season, I thought, I was like,
- 35:02oh, yeah, he's just gonna be a guy, project guy.
- 35:05Probably end up moving the tight end. No, no, no, no,
- 35:07no, no no no. He he runs fluid, he's he's smooth
- 35:12when he runs. To be honest with you, Uh, he may not
- 35:15be as fast as he is, but he runs better. His run style
- 35:17is better than Gibson. I was like, no, he's he's a wide
- 35:21receiver. He's a complete wide receiver. Uh, he's only going to get
- 35:23better. I was like, that's gonna be crazy. I'm over here screaming,
- 35:28and in my mind I'm screaming. I'm like, Seth Treil Joe John.
- 35:30Please when we get to the when we get down there in the red
- 35:34zone, please let's not do this whole thing of Burk's on the outside and
- 35:37andrel Anthony on the other outside and try to speed these guys. No,
- 35:40put Gibson, Put Gibson Anderson and carry on on the field. Put Bower
- 35:45sharp in over there in the spot. So let's get it, like,
- 35:50what are we doing? We don't have to do all of that. Do
- 35:52fades, you could throw him to those guys. But outside of that,
- 35:57man, I would just say I thought the wide receiver group as a whole,
- 36:00they look good even with what we saw yesterday, the younger, good
- 36:04mix of the younger guys or whatnot. I know what I would get for
- 36:07Faruk. I know. I feel like I know what I'm going to get
- 36:09from from Anthony when those guys are back, and I know what I'm gonna
- 36:14get from Nick Anderson as well. So my whole thing is is that I'm
- 36:17like, Okay, this is great because you you're gonna put a lot of
- 36:21dudes on islands. And I think what people are going to try to do
- 36:25to Jackson Oral this year. They're gonna try to run a lot of zone
- 36:29or try to disguise it and have his own concepts in there because they're gonna
- 36:31say, well, it worked in the Alamobo, I can't even work now.
- 36:36I don't think you do that simply because this is not a levy offense
- 36:40to wear your third downs and some of your second downs are slants. Those
- 36:45are not gonna be your go to routes. It's gonna be dudes running all
- 36:49open down the field, and he has the orange stretch to burn you.
- 36:52And he has the orange stretch to get situated very quick. And last thing
- 36:58not but he he's not gonna have those freshman mistakes or that Alamo Bowl game
- 37:04mistake. Excuse me, I don't know why I can't talk today, But
- 37:06still, wide receiver room look really good. They look athletic. That's that's
- 37:09the thing. They look really athletic. So I'm excited about it. Yeah,
- 37:15I think the best is yet to come. Yeah, And you know,
- 37:19I understand why you couldn't get the words going. Man, just dumb
- 37:22out of how elite this wide receiver room looks. Right. It's probably it
- 37:24is definitely our strongest room right now, and we just got to see what
- 37:29I think. I say it's our second strongest. Honestly, I think the
- 37:30secondary is the strongest at this point when I really look back on it.
- 37:34But we'll talk about them in just a minute. PG wide receivers, man,
- 37:39Man, I'm really excited to see what this wide receiver room is gonna
- 37:43look like when you get d On Bricks and Andre Anthony out there, can
- 37:47Nick or can we just do Andre Anthony, Dean Burks and Brendan Thompson all
- 37:54together, just let him streak down the field and see who's gonna stop them,
- 37:58because I guarantee you to help Mary's situation. You aren't. You aren'tnna
- 38:01be bild to cover all three of them. No, I think you're right,
- 38:05And I actually have three lines, three lineups that I'm really excited to
- 38:07see. Like one, we did have a JJ Hester sighting, So you
- 38:10got six y four Hester, puts six four Nick Anderson, sixty five Gibson,
- 38:15and then sixty six carry On all out there at the same time trying
- 38:17to figure out who's gonna stop a jump ball there right, Who's gonna have
- 38:22somebody who's gonna handle that portion? Plus we all know three of them are
- 38:27fast. We guys, just see what carry On can do as far as
- 38:29like a straight line. That's the interesting thing there. And then as you
- 38:32mentioned that lineup, you've got Burk's ped away put in Brenda Thompson and andreel
- 38:37Anthony. If he's back to you know, at least ninety five percent of
- 38:39himself, four more burners out there. That's just you know, outrun everybody.
- 38:44Hey, it's that's how has to sell playing time in this room,
- 38:47right, Like, Hey, some games you might not get as much,
- 38:51but other games you're gonna get a lot. It's gonna be all depending on
- 38:53matchups. Baby, and oh, it's gonna be a lot of fun this
- 38:55year. It's gonna be a lot of fun. I agree with that one
- 38:59and and and modern day Cavan makes his great point here the Seth the Trail
- 39:02threw him on a on a reverse last jet sweep and had everybody a little
- 39:07bit on the perturbed side. Totally agree. Thinks Seth Trail did do a
- 39:09little bit better thing on that. But let's move on running back room and
- 39:15tight ends. We'll put them together to wrap up the offense. Real talk,
- 39:19keeping it a buck, keeping it uh, keeping it h keeping it
- 39:22funky. Caleb Hicks might be something man like. Okay, I know that
- 39:28we didn't see Javonte Barnes. The there was a statement out there about Barnes
- 39:36was, uh, they didn't play him because of opportunities or something. I've
- 39:39seen some reports go around it seem weird, But I'll say this man,
- 39:45Caleb Hicks might be solidifying himself as the dude next to Saltchuk. The thing.
- 39:49Saltchuk is gonna be RB one just because of what he did last season.
- 39:53And you know he finished the seat, finished season five straight one hundred
- 39:58yard games. You know, he he got himself back to where we thought
- 40:00he was gonna be at the beginning of the year. We look healthier now.
- 40:05The question is with Barnes and how bad things were with his foot.
- 40:07Kind of curious on it. But at the same time, the rumors are
- 40:09flowing around that he's probably gonna hit the portal. I don't know if he
- 40:14does. Totally understood, because I think Hicks man might be somebody that's gonna
- 40:19be a problem. Chris will start with you this running back room and also
- 40:22tight ends Bower. Sharp's a big dude. And I saw that one play
- 40:28where I think Ethan Downs got him on the edge. Totally saw that.
- 40:30I also saw him beat Ethan Downs on a block on the edge like a
- 40:35play in or whatnot. Shout out to Barry Wise over there at Barry and
- 40:37Mac. He posted a video of that and I was like, oh,
- 40:39it was a good battle between the Edges and bower Sharp the entire game,
- 40:44So I can't be mad. I kind of wish we would have thrown into
- 40:46them. But I do think one thing, and I'm gonna pass this to
- 40:50you, Chris. I think we didn't use the tight ends for a reason
- 40:55for the most part, because why show your hand if he ain't got to
- 40:59right. We got all these wide receivers. Show people what they are going
- 41:01to be excited about. Run a ball with Caleb Hicks, Sam Franklin as
- 41:07well as all the wide receivers. You to let you know, battle shopping
- 41:10them show out later. How'd you feel about the running backs as well as
- 41:14those tight ends. Okay, so first off, running backs, I thought
- 41:17they hey, look, I thought it looked really good. I thought,
- 41:22Sawchuck, I know what Sawchuck is going to give me. I'm kind of
- 41:24obviously. I think we're all let me start with this, Let me start
- 41:28with this. I think all four of us are waiting for Taylor, Taylor
- 41:30Taytan to get on the Let's let's just be real. We're waiting. We're
- 41:36waiting for him to see if the hype is real and see if he can
- 41:37really insert himself into the lineup, into this rotation. But with what we
- 41:43saw yesterday, I would say this, I think saw Chuck is solid.
- 41:45I think saw Chuck is gonna be saw Chuck. I think Caleb Hicks Jay.
- 41:51You know, I've been a big Caleb Hicks fan since he got to
- 41:53campus. I thought everybody was screaming for Hollywood last year. I thought it
- 42:00was him. I said, hey, man, he came in here working
- 42:02like mentality, head down, was ready to work. And you saw some
- 42:06of the moves last year early on. I know it was Arkansas State,
- 42:08but that was still a hell of a move for a freshman. One of
- 42:12his first reps in the game, right got a touchdown. But seeing him
- 42:15this year, no, he yeah, he's he has a chance to really
- 42:20burst on the scene. He would be my early pick for breakout player of
- 42:23the year. I mean breakout player for this team simply because just I mean,
- 42:28I just think I think the world of the kid, and I think
- 42:30that he's going to be really really big for us, and I think he's
- 42:34going to be kind of that tweiner as far as being a kind of a
- 42:37power back as well when you need it. Sam Franklin solid, extremely solid.
- 42:42I think he's a guy that will still still snaps be out there.
- 42:46I think you're gonna see a lot of him as well. I feel really
- 42:50comfortable with the three running backs that we that we have that we saw really
- 42:53play the majority of the first half. I think Meg Way he looks he
- 42:58looks great, and I think that the talent is still there. Hopefully the
- 43:02knee and everything is healed up. So I mean, it gives you another
- 43:06solid edition. Once you get Taylor Tatum on the on on campus. That
- 43:10gives you what about four or five running backs that you feel like you can
- 43:15really depend on. Bourns, I don't know what that situation is about heading
- 43:20over to the tight ends. I would say this right here watching a breakdown.
- 43:22I'm sure that Cooper's gonna talk about it as well. Look, I
- 43:28definitely don't think that you had to show your hand yesterday because the tight ends
- 43:32are going to be a huge part of this offense. Okay, those little
- 43:37split buff zones and those split zones, different things like that, those looks
- 43:40that that he's wanted to give you, Latreill, He's gonna put two tight
- 43:45ends on uh out there, and you don't know what they're gonna be doing.
- 43:50Hell, it's gonna be it's gonna feel like playing against uh, somebody
- 43:52who really knows what they're doing at Madden. Right, You're gonna have those
- 43:55why those uh those tight ends running those seam routes, a little skinny post,
- 44:00different things like that. You're gonna see a lot of the tight end
- 44:05be featured in this offense this year in a variety of ways. I can't
- 44:07wait for people to see that splip buff zone when Jackson Normal, Michael Hawkins,
- 44:14somebody is running down the sideline for a forty yard touchdown, simple because
- 44:19everybody picked up their blocking and executed their assignment. So yeah, no,
- 44:23I mean, I think that the tight end room is gonna be really good.
- 44:25I can't wait for He still looks raw out there, simply because it
- 44:30feels like he's still getting acclimated to this offense learning and everybody's pace is different.
- 44:36But gosh, devon Mitchell man, he is going to be a beast
- 44:40man the kid. The kid is is, And the thing about it is
- 44:47is that it's kind of inconsistent how he runs because he looks so light on
- 44:53his feet, but he's so heavy Man, I'm like, man, I
- 44:57don't I don't know. I was like, he he's kind of I'm gonna
- 45:00be in that category of like a like an Ethan Downs trying to really find
- 45:04his playing way as far as what he wants to play at. But once
- 45:07he gets hold of that situated, man, that kid is going to be
- 45:10special. Dude, I can see that. I'm with you on that one,
- 45:14and Chuck totally, I get you underneath the gameplay, that's not an
- 45:17argument. I think you're right on that portion of it. I one hundred
- 45:21percent agree. But some of the videos and stuff we've seen of what those
- 45:24tight Ends have done in practice kind of makes me say, I feel like
- 45:29they were holding back. It just feels like it now. At the same
- 45:32time, you're right. The good thing is we have three out of conference
- 45:36games at the beginning of the year, and it looks like Houston's gut it
- 45:37again. And I don't think tu Lane's gonna be a problem yet because they're
- 45:42quote unquote rebuilding for the most part. In Temple, we should be able
- 45:44to walk who should be able to sleepwalk through that game. So we'll get
- 45:47that at that point, especially in fall camp. You know, it's gotta
- 45:51make you stay healthy. PG over to you, running backs and tight ends?
- 45:54What just made you be like pow or or rebuttal to somebody else?
- 46:01What you got? Yeah? I mean I didn't expect to see a ton
- 46:05of the tight ends because I mean, we've heard so much about our sharp
- 46:07but I didn't really feel like the staff would want to put anything on film
- 46:10for your opposing teams to see in the fall. So I don't know if
- 46:15I really expected to see a ton of tight ends. Now. I thought
- 46:17maybe we would see Cayden Helmes dressed up, but he was just in his
- 46:22jersey, so I guess he's still not able to play full contact. So
- 46:27I guess maybe I was just off on that one. But running backs,
- 46:30what have I been trying to tell you all about? Kala vicks Man?
- 46:31I love this kid, and the one thing I love about his game is
- 46:36he's patient, like he will wait for the hole to develop and then he's
- 46:39gonna burst through. He almost gives me kind of like that Kennedy Brooks vibe.
- 46:43If you guys remember, like Kennedy Brooks would almost wait too long for
- 46:45the hole to develop and then he would run right through it. And that's
- 46:49what I think you're gonna get with Caleb Hicks, but Caleb Picks has got
- 46:52I'm not gonna say track speed, but it's pretty close to it. And
- 46:55then yeah, you got Gavin Sawchuk. We saw what he was able to
- 46:59do last year. And then I'm on board with George Stoya. Uh BB's
- 47:04answer with Barnes was absolute bs, like, something's going on. You don't
- 47:08know what you have in Sawchuk too, and yeah, so yeah, you
- 47:13would want to see more out of Barnes because you didn't get a chance to
- 47:15see Barnes healthy last year, right, So I mean like you'd want to
- 47:19see Barnes, not Sawchuck. And so I don't know something's going on there.
- 47:23And you know, I think Eddie said it. He goes, maybe
- 47:27Barnes doesn't transferred and this is like the greatest thing we've ever seen at running
- 47:30back and they're just gonna throw them out there in the fall. I just
- 47:34don't think that's gonna happen. I think Barnes is probably out at this point,
- 47:37which I mean they got to get down in scholarship, so it I
- 47:42mean, you're gonna lose somebody somewhere, and running back is one of those
- 47:45rooms where we have a lot of guys like you have a lot of depth
- 47:47and like you guys said Taylor Tatum's coming in. I'm not sold on Taylor
- 47:52Tatum being a guy that's gonna get a ton of snaps this year. I
- 47:55think they'll let him kind of focus on baseball and kind of just be there
- 48:00what he's needed, because, I mean, you've got so much talent there
- 48:02this year. You don't absolutely have to throw him into the fire for you
- 48:07know, ten snaps a game. I mean, if Tatum is as good
- 48:09as advertised, you do. And then we did see Xavier Robinson and it
- 48:13looked like it was really hard for people to tackle him as well. Right,
- 48:15that's one player that I felt like was a little underrated in and a
- 48:19couple of snaps I saw him get. I'm just like, oh, yeah,
- 48:22you're not gonna fall are you? Like you literally do not want to
- 48:23hit the ground. And he had eight carries for twenty seven yard. It's
- 48:27only averaging three point eight, but it was really hard for them to tackle
- 48:30him. And I think that that gets better as the line gets better,
- 48:32and so coop on the backs tight ends how you feel in any rebuttals what
- 48:37you're thinking, Caleb Hicks is that guy. And if you go back and
- 48:44watch you you go back to that game. There was one point where they
- 48:51did an RPO and it was a little bit of a fumble and he had
- 48:55a blitzer screaming right at him and he stepped up up and he's stonewalled and
- 49:01I didn't see who it was, but it was it was, I mean,
- 49:06a hell of a pass coverage. I'm pass block like. That's what
- 49:09I was kind of worried about. Was you know, typically when you see
- 49:13a younger kid who can't make it on the field, you hear these great
- 49:15running the ball, it's the pass protection. But it looked terrific and he
- 49:19did a such a great job. And so there's that I think that.
- 49:25I mean, again, Brent Vinible is not going to come out and be
- 49:28like, hey, Javonte Barnes is transferring out right, because there's no need
- 49:31for that. So he did. I mean, I think he did cover
- 49:35and you know you're gonna find out. So it's we didn't need to Brent
- 49:38Vinables to tell us like Javonte didn't want to play, and you know he's
- 49:43he's making his way out because maybe it's not Oh it wasn't mackenzie. So
- 49:46I mean, I if he's if he stepped up and he's stonewalled, Mackenzie,
- 49:52that's Mackenzie's freaking humongous angus. He's he is the second most surprised.
- 49:59I was on that second most surprise that, you know, to see what
- 50:05they physically looked like. You know, Xavier got out there. Xavier didn't
- 50:09look terrific, but he was with a mixed match second and third string offensive
- 50:15line, and guys, he was getting hit immediately. McKenzie should I mean
- 50:22not McKenzie, but he should be at his high school still. So let's
- 50:27let's just you know, let's just calm down. You know, Xavier Robinson
- 50:30is a freshman. He is going to He's going to get bigger. I
- 50:37saw some people maybe dropping some crap about Devon Mitchell maybe looking slow again.
- 50:44That kid should be a senior in high school right now. Uh, you
- 50:46know, he reclassified. He has a good body movement. And I will
- 50:52say this last thing about the tide ends. Yeah, guys, if there
- 50:57was any pumped the brakes on the tight end stuff and whatnot, all it
- 51:02took was for the hit on sharp from bogo to them. You know,
- 51:07maybe we should open it up a little bit. Then then sharp gets drilled
- 51:12and there maybe we shouldn't open it up a little bit. And so we
- 51:16saw also Jay Kate McIntyre. He's another guy that just is a is a
- 51:22freaking nature too. And I think here we go. We have the opportunity
- 51:28with tight ends. We've got a lot of different guys with a lot of
- 51:30different skill sets. And you, I mean out how long until we have
- 51:34to count carry on in there too? So running if you're freaking out,
- 51:40Yeah, I just he's humongous and you know, again we just if he
- 51:45beefs up anymore, it might might have to happen. Then that'd be really
- 51:50weird looking at So what he'll be a flex tight end, Like if you
- 51:53want to run an extra receiver, he could run him as a flex tight
- 51:57end. Possibly. The question is wes his ability to walk on the inside
- 52:02right. I think it's where you have those questions around putting carry on at
- 52:06that. I don't I haven't seen him blocking as a tight end and tight
- 52:09end type schemes. That's where I would have a concern. Now I can
- 52:13see him going as a wide receiver going in motion and then rubbing or blocking
- 52:16somebody that way, you know, with a little bit of speed for you
- 52:19know, fool speed ahead on as he goes. But at the same time,
- 52:22I don't It doesn't sound smart to me at this point, but you
- 52:25never know, it could be, could be something. Man, we spent
- 52:30like fifty minutes talking offense. Now it's time to get to the fun part,
- 52:32but one that everybody wants to lose their minds on. Outside offensive line,
- 52:36it's gonna be defense, right, So make sure y'all hit that like
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- 52:45as usual, stalk defense. Coop him a pass to you first, I'm
- 52:50gonna let you choose what position we're gonna start off with. You give us
- 52:53your your quote unquote safety, all right, go for it, lead the
- 52:58way well, talk the line. We talked about safety being a strength of
- 53:05this team, and I mean it, it almost makes my eyes water.
- 53:09It almost makes my eyes water. So funny story. So Jay and I
- 53:15are under the tunnel and we're talking to Isaiah tr Dan's dad and uh powers
- 53:21and then Bogo's dad comes down and and Jay and Bogo's dad are talking and
- 53:27I'm watching the TV screen and and I was like, oh, oh,
- 53:30oh, your boy just crushed somebody. And then he looks me straight in
- 53:35the eye and goes, yeah, but did you see the mistackle he made?
- 53:37He had? And I was like, oh, and he was the
- 53:40one where they Jackson got touched and then he kind of just flicked it out.
- 53:45And Bogo just you know, crushes somebody and then he has them.
- 53:47So Bogo is like, he is just another one of these freaks of nature
- 53:55that makes Brandon Hall, I mean, without Emmett Jones, I think we
- 54:00would be talking a lot more about Brandon Hall, because I mean, Brandon
- 54:05Halls, Brandon Hall and these rays. You didn't even have your All American
- 54:09safety out there. Peyton Bowen is just out there roaming around doing Peyton Bowen
- 54:15things. But you know that the younger guys like Hardy and and Boganowski,
- 54:22even Eli Bowen running back out there that safety room is just absolutely exciting to
- 54:27watch. And and you know, and I'm here for it, and we
- 54:31are now recruiting guys who want to hit folks. And so it is when
- 54:36you see Bogo when you're like, bro, you remember that these are your
- 54:40teammates, right like it just it fires me up. I love him,
- 54:45I love him. I love him. I love him. And meeting his
- 54:49dad, we see where he gets it from, right. He wants,
- 54:52he wants to he wants to arrive with violence. And we were talking to
- 54:57a couple I think it was his father when we were talking about it,
- 55:00and he said, you know what we've got. You know, this whole
- 55:04group wants to hit you. And Jay brought up and said, yeah,
- 55:07I mean exactly. You You know, you were making business decisions quite often
- 55:13when you catch the football over the middle. So if you're were wondering what's
- 55:16this going to look like when Billy Bowman leaves, I'm pretty sure that we
- 55:22can sit back on the safety room. Yeah, that's the room that of
- 55:25course excites me because of the return of the production. Robert Spiars Jennings was
- 55:30out there. He was getting his hits in, which excited me as well.
- 55:32So you get Spirits Jennings back and as that experience and that ability to
- 55:37hit there, you see Boganowski, little Boga out there just leveling folks,
- 55:42and it's funny because you said that when I was when we was on the
- 55:45field, I saw him. I was like, hey man, you know,
- 55:47talking to him and his dad, and I'm like, hey man,
- 55:49can you like stop like kind of killing your teammates. I mean, I
- 55:52want you to hit, but you don't kind of kill your teammates. He
- 55:54smiled, He's like, I got you, man, I got you.
- 55:57I got you because we all know, we all know what was gonna happen,
- 56:00because that was great. We think it was Baits that ran up on
- 56:01him. When I think he hit hit Caleb Hicks a little lad play and
- 56:06Baits ran up on him and got this grill, which one I love that
- 56:09they're holding each other accountable for that. He also hit Bowers sharp? Was
- 56:14that him hit Bower sharp? It seems like Bogo was everywhere everywhere you look.
- 56:20If there was somebody getting leveled, it was him. I did not
- 56:22realize he hit like that, because of course I knew Reggie Powers was gonna
- 56:25do that. RP three was definitely gonna be that did to level people,
- 56:30because he has a whole mixtape of him just leveling people, which is you
- 56:36know, we all love that. I did not realize that Boga was also
- 56:42a big time hitter. So now that we have both, I'm just all
- 56:45right. And then Robert Spears Jennings is known for hitting, which is why
- 56:47he kind of had some injury issues back in the day. Love the fact
- 56:51that now he's really good on that. And like you said, Bowman is
- 56:58what I will say, he's got he We probably want see him too a
- 57:01fall camp, which is fine. We don't need him at this point.
- 57:07There's always a question is what it's like, what it's gonna look like.
- 57:09If they want to try to preserve Bowman for or more so the SEC games.
- 57:14Of course they'll get him out there, get him in the game shape
- 57:15he needs to be and whatnot. But if they're gonna try to preserve him,
- 57:19which that I'll even lead me to the linebackers in a minute. But
- 57:22yeah, Man, safety room. But Hardy actually looked pretty solid to again,
- 57:27Yes, I feel like we've got the experience we need. Chris,
- 57:30talk to me, man, safety room, and if you want to go
- 57:35into it, talk to me. I mean, you know, you know
- 57:37how I feel about the DVS. Man. I think the DB's look really
- 57:39good out there. I think they look solid. Eli Bowing. I'm really
- 57:44impressed with Eli bowing Man, like Eli Bone is gonna it's gonna be really
- 57:47really good. Kind of like my unk said when we were all talking out
- 57:51there, I think I'll probably push him back towards, uh the safety role,
- 57:55more of the safety role. Just the kind of his ballhawk skills and
- 57:59everything. I think that dangerous having the Bowen brothers potentially be your safeties back
- 58:05there eventually. Just those instincts alone could be crazy. And that's simply because
- 58:09I kind of like my taller uh more athlet you know, I wouldn't say
- 58:14more athletic with my taller like DB's to be out there, you know,
- 58:17as far as my corners, I really like Vickers man. I think Vickers
- 58:21is solid. I think Vickers is really I think Vickers is learning what it
- 58:24takes to play like that. You know, you guys are giving a b
- 58:28Hall a lot of credit and deservedly so. But that whole mentality of DB's
- 58:32hitting people, that's the lie all day and so has when out there and
- 58:37recruited those type of guys. Dans Malone. We got to see a couple
- 58:40of looks from him. We got to be kind of both looked like vets
- 58:49out there. I'm not gonna lie can is another guy. Like I said,
- 58:52you know, yesterday when we were talking about this, Jason and I
- 58:54said this about Canni Walker. I said, Hey, only only problem that
- 58:59I have CANi last year was that down the stretch, especially when we needed
- 59:02him and he was out there in the Kansas game, is that towards at
- 59:07some point his technique gets a little bit sloppy and he tries to just really
- 59:13go out there and out talent you, and that's not gonna work all the
- 59:15time. So I want to know if those things have been fixed, because
- 59:19the kid is a hell of a talent. Dolby all those guys, I
- 59:22feel like you have a really really good DV room, and I think that
- 59:27it's only gonna make things better. Where I would kind of tend to what
- 59:32I want to put some focus on is the D line and just say,
- 59:35hey, the D line is better than what it has been advertised to be,
- 59:39okay, because I think what a lot of people need to understand is
- 59:43that, yeah, we may not have the six six six' five guys
- 59:46right there in the middle, but we have guys that everybody on this panel
- 59:51and everybody in this chat was excited about getting At some point, I think
- 59:55that yes, a double Williams and we'll get to D line against a minute,
- 1:00:00we're gonna smoking, seriously, I said, safeties and corners. We're
- 1:00:02gonna close with D line because that's the one everybody wants to talk about.
- 1:00:07But yes, all right, yeah say that one real quick, stick ass
- 1:00:10cat. Hey man, appreciate the twenty dollars and yeah, please hit that
- 1:00:15like button if you need the chance subscribe, show us some love to the
- 1:00:17legends, shout out to you. Yeah, yep, both his name alone,
- 1:00:22it sounds like greatness. Man, Thanks for the five. That's exactly
- 1:00:24what it feels like, right PG Safety's corners. One thing I wanted to
- 1:00:29add to that saw Jayden Roll on the field. We had a Jadon Rose
- 1:00:31siting. Yes, he's huge. I didn't realize he was that big of
- 1:00:35a human being. I walked up to him like dog man, like how
- 1:00:38you so big? And he started laughing and I realized one of his fam
- 1:00:44in the stands of somebody who from high school, and I'm just like,
- 1:00:45oh wait, y'all were The crazy part is Jayden Rose ginormous human but he's
- 1:00:51big, like he's wide he's taught. Like you said, Chris, I
- 1:00:57like to have my big corners out there on the outside with I need that.
- 1:01:00He said, his shoulders good, he's healthy, his knee is good,
- 1:01:04he said, he's he's he's as healthy as he's being. I just
- 1:01:07want to see him going to feel with that. He looks like a giant
- 1:01:13triangle. That really is I mean, is humongous up top. I mean
- 1:01:19he's not small. I mean he's got a good lower body too. So
- 1:01:23yeah, Roe is just dirty, Yeah, ginormous PG. Let's just move
- 1:01:30to the linebackers and defensive lineman. I don't have anything else to say on
- 1:01:32the dbs, like they just look good and there's a lot of depth there,
- 1:01:36So lead us on the linebackers. Then let's go. I'm really I'm
- 1:01:40really excited about the depth here at linebackers. I think Kobe McKenzie looks really
- 1:01:44good. I'm excited to see him this season. I think he, I
- 1:01:47mean, what probably gonna be the backup to Danny Stutsman, and then you've
- 1:01:52got uh Desam mccolaugh and I would assume Kip Lewis will probably fight for a
- 1:01:57spot there, and then you're gonna have Jaron Canna, Samuel Mesigo, Lewis
- 1:02:01Carter all there in the mix, which I would assume Sam, he's probably
- 1:02:05more of a cheetah than playing the mic in the will. But I don't
- 1:02:09know. This linebacker room, this is what OU fans have dreamed of.
- 1:02:14I'm sorry, Yeah, it's what we've dreamed of for the past ten years.
- 1:02:19You're right, and seeing Stutsman, he got a few snaps. It
- 1:02:22feels like I wonder if they're gonna try to preserve him too right, preserve
- 1:02:24him for right, right for the for the SEC matchup, and then really
- 1:02:30unleash him and like Bowman or whatnot. But yeah, linebacker wise, I
- 1:02:34think we're good. We've got The good thing about the spring game is it
- 1:02:37gives you that visibility of the players and things you need to hone in on
- 1:02:43before you move into the fall camp, right, things to work on,
- 1:02:45technique, all of that stuff summertime going right into fall camp and hopefully by
- 1:02:50fall camp most of that's fixed. We see that with I side of Omaseigo.
- 1:02:53He missed on a couple plays, but he looks like he's ready to
- 1:02:59go in which I think that's kind of one reason why we unfortunately lost our
- 1:03:01boy Harrington. It feels like the depth chart is getting big. Kobe mckinzie's
- 1:03:07huge, and he showed his hugeness and with Coop pointing out how Caleb Hicks
- 1:03:13was able to stuff him on a block to I was wautch to Kobe go
- 1:03:16through folks, I jumped out to me, I'm like, all right,
- 1:03:20this dude might be ready for that rotation. Kip of course being Kip,
- 1:03:23you know what I'm saying, being everywhere you need him to be. It's
- 1:03:27gonna be The rotations of linebacks is gonna be interesting to me because even adding
- 1:03:30to sign mccullor from quote unquote Cheetah slash playing like the wheel area, It's
- 1:03:36funny. They weren't even disguising blitzes. He just literally walked up to the
- 1:03:38line and said I'm coming. I want you to stop me, right And
- 1:03:42it was funny because Coup points this out to me. McCullough went in for
- 1:03:45a sack. It's very I'm sorry. Jackson Old throws it past and as
- 1:03:52McCullough's walking away, BV yells at him to come to him, and he
- 1:03:55points out him like get your arms out, looked at him and said,
- 1:04:00okay, play or so later he goes out there and he immediately throws his
- 1:04:04arms up to Flekes a pass and Bbe looks at him and goes, I'm
- 1:04:09like, all right, well, I guess they're fixing the problems on the
- 1:04:13fly, something you didn't get much of, and shout out to Jerian cainnick
- 1:04:16man, I feel bad for it. Man, he he, he has
- 1:04:18every bit of town. He did that wrong. Yeah, I ain't wanna
- 1:04:23talk about Dusty. We gonna need that where that is. I don't even
- 1:04:26want to get into that because that hot mike situation is always offul It never
- 1:04:30works out good for the person with the hot mic or the person that's receiving
- 1:04:32it. Can't yell it out loud. Bro, isn't it funny? Isn't
- 1:04:36it funny? Like Thunder about to head into the playoffs and it reminded me
- 1:04:41of can't play Cancer like I can't blame him and yo, uh you know
- 1:04:46obviously people were sending us that stuff and they were lighting it up. So
- 1:04:51I do want to say, and to your point about Stutsman, I think
- 1:04:56we're gonna get that with Woody Bowman Stutsman and maybe even Terry where like the
- 1:05:00first four games of the season, they will probably play the first quarter and
- 1:05:04that's it. Like you're probably gonna see a lot of young guys and them
- 1:05:09really trying to figure out who's going to take second string and will be your
- 1:05:14you know, favorite into the next season because those four games, you don't
- 1:05:17need those guys. You shouldn't need those dudes in the first four games.
- 1:05:20And then you bring them in and they all and you know, all four
- 1:05:25are at different positions, should be healthy, fully ready to go, not
- 1:05:30gassed, and at that point Oklahoma should be rolling. So again, I
- 1:05:34really like the depth at the linebacker position, and I think it's gonna be
- 1:05:38even better when we get to the defensive line. Here in a minute,
- 1:05:41I agree. I agree with you there, and Creage'm gonna pass it to
- 1:05:43you. But uh A frightening asked his question. The homie he's a Texas
- 1:05:46fan, but he you know, he pulls up and he's reasonable. Love
- 1:05:49him to death, but no, he mentioned asked us about is Canic's issues
- 1:05:54kind of like four was for them, where like Gabe mentioned how he hoped
- 1:05:57for was on the field, but when he looked because he looked low,
- 1:06:00but then Ford did well for that game and the rest of the season.
- 1:06:02When she's talking about red River. To be honest, truth, I do
- 1:06:05feel like that's that's a possibility. But the issue you got with it is
- 1:06:09that he's been in the system for two years, right, this is going
- 1:06:13on year three. If it clicks, dude's gonna be beastly, which I'm
- 1:06:16gonna be honest. Stutsman had a similar problem. Remember, Stutsman kind of
- 1:06:20was looking kind of lost the first year in the BB's system, but then
- 1:06:24it was like the Iowa State game happened and he clicked and realized, oh,
- 1:06:28they're baiting me, and then he got that pick six and ever since
- 1:06:32then, it's like a whole new human being. It's like this, it's
- 1:06:34like he figured it out. So for you, to be honest, honestly,
- 1:06:40I'll say this the way that Brent Vinibles mentioned how zach ally calls the
- 1:06:45defense different than him and he kind of simplifies it to help guys figure it
- 1:06:48out. I think that that's gonna help Canic long term. But at the
- 1:06:54same time, it feels like Canick works best with Stutsman, and if he's
- 1:06:58not with Stutsman, the kind of go a little different. I hope,
- 1:07:02hopefully it's not the crust. I think Kanni's gonna get that thing about.
- 1:07:05He's a freakishly athletic dude. He when he does great stuff, it's great,
- 1:07:10and then he just gets goes to his mistakes really fast on the next
- 1:07:14time. So you're but Chris, he's thinking too much. I mean,
- 1:07:17the whole thing is that I'm saying, we we Jay. You know I've
- 1:07:21said this plenty of times. Got to give another shout out to my uncle.
- 1:07:26Definitely said the point. He made the point. He's like, hey,
- 1:07:29Kennick is a speed d guy that he Kennick would have been perfect in
- 1:07:31speed era because you're just telling him go hit somebody. You're not true to
- 1:07:35think, not telling him to think on the five, keep your head on
- 1:07:39the squivel, all the rest of these things. You're not telling him to
- 1:07:42do ten things before he has to go do the one thing that he's good
- 1:07:45at. Right. So the whole thing is that you've seen flashes out there
- 1:07:48allah the Cincinnati game. You saw some freakish plays from him to be able
- 1:07:54to stop the quarterback coming from this angle, that angle where you're like,
- 1:07:58yo, like you can't really teach that. That's just really all instinct,
- 1:08:02right, But the problem is just it's just been inconsistent. But as far
- 1:08:09as the linebacker room or whatnot, I mean, hey, look, I
- 1:08:11thought you saw really good tackling from them out there. I think still we
- 1:08:15have some issues with some zone concepts, the zone concepts that you did see.
- 1:08:20But how about that four to three look that you got to see yesterday,
- 1:08:25A little bit of a couple of snaps that you saw and you were
- 1:08:28like, wait a minute, WHOA And you saw Lewis Carter McCullough and then
- 1:08:32you also saw Danny Stutsman out there together. I think you have a good
- 1:08:36rotation of guys, and I think that you feel like there's not going to
- 1:08:40be a letdown or a drop off. I think that if we're in a
- 1:08:45OSU position again. And as far as Stutsman's out, so now who's starting,
- 1:08:51I think Kobe McKenzie and then Kip Lewis, and then obviously you're putting
- 1:08:59McCullough back there as well. I think that's gonna help. And I think
- 1:09:02they're gonna be ready for the challenge this year. And I've always said I
- 1:09:05think Kobe McKenzie is the understudy for Danny Stussman. If not, then it
- 1:09:12would be Kip Lewis. But at the same time, I think those guys
- 1:09:14are gonna be dynamic. Samyo is going to be fine. He's still it
- 1:09:18takes time to learn that cheeking position, but it takes time learning two positions
- 1:09:23as well, because they're gonna have him all over the field. So I
- 1:09:27mean, I think one of the biggest things is it's just for them just
- 1:09:30to get those reps or whatnot. And I don't know, I don't know.
- 1:09:34I really don't want to come in too much on Kenny got a whole
- 1:09:38ass video about that. But I think the big thing for me was was
- 1:09:41that I felt good about my linebackers yesterday and what I saw. I don't
- 1:09:45really need to see Stutsman. I didn't think we were gonna see Sussment out
- 1:09:47there anyways. I want him to heal up. He's had some nagging injuries
- 1:09:51anyways from these past two seasons, so I mean, I just want him
- 1:09:56to be held up and ready for the season. I don't want him to
- 1:09:59necessary set out three quarters or this or that, only play a half or
- 1:10:03whatever. I want him to go out there and nail people and hit people.
- 1:10:05Again, his rep said, because once we play Tennessee and once we
- 1:10:09play Auburn, we at SCC like it's it's you know, no days off
- 1:10:14Flo. That's hilarious. But no, and Tyler, you're right, I
- 1:10:18did see Lewis Carter. That touchdown was on him, right, And it's
- 1:10:24funny because the play that everybody was yelling at, if I'm correct, it
- 1:10:27was either I think it was Taylor Heim and maybe Lewis Carter are the ones
- 1:10:30that that gave that up shout out to a guy stats by Popo. He
- 1:10:34had pointed that out as like, that's not that wasn't on Cannon, the
- 1:10:38one that everybody's freaking out on him. That was. I don't think that
- 1:10:41was his assignment. And so, yeah, Can is getting a bad rap.
- 1:10:44I mean, Louis Carter, he was out there making some moves and
- 1:10:46stuff. But at the same time, linebacker, I think by the end
- 1:10:51of the season they will become our strongest part of our defense. And that
- 1:10:57is not saying that those secondary will be bad. I'm just saying I think
- 1:11:00that all linebackers are gonna be stupid good as they progress with it. With
- 1:11:05zach Alli teaching them how to be a linebacker in a Brent Vinable's defense,
- 1:11:11where your linebackers is your most important position. Right well, and saw McCulla
- 1:11:15moving over to the whill is gonna exponentially make that linebacker room so much better.
- 1:11:19Like, I think people are going to probably undersell the value of that
- 1:11:23move. I can totally see that. Chris, you over here shaking your
- 1:11:26head like you're not thinking the linebacker room is gonna step up and become the
- 1:11:29best. No, no, no, they're they're gonna be the I think
- 1:11:33that they have the chance to. You could argue and say that they're most
- 1:11:38consistent. I think the best. You're you're looking at either the D line
- 1:11:43or you're looking at the dB room simply because the guys that we have back
- 1:11:46there, man, I mean, when you think about uh, Bowman,
- 1:11:51Bowen and R. S J. Come on, man, the most aathetic,
- 1:11:57strongest secondary that we've had in quite a while. There's not I don't
- 1:12:02think there's gonna be too many bumps going over those guys head. How do
- 1:12:06we define that this room is not the best, because I would like to
- 1:12:10place a bet on this. How do you find that you guys are looking
- 1:12:13at talent opposed to what the production is really going to be, because yeah,
- 1:12:18production is the one guy. I mean, if we really think talking
- 1:12:23about it, I mean like obviously, yeah, Kip lewis, but most
- 1:12:26of the production was coming from Stutsman last year. I think that when you
- 1:12:30look at the D line this year, with the parts they have and the
- 1:12:33pressure that you're going to be able to get and especially with teams wanting to
- 1:12:36play you straight up in the SCC opposed to seeing what you saw last year
- 1:12:41with guys trying to play the quick game, I think that you have a
- 1:12:44chance for some of your D for your edge guys to really get loose this
- 1:12:47year. That's for a point. Cool car linebackers are good. That's my
- 1:12:54analysis. You know Stutsman is you see Kip continue. I mean, Kip
- 1:13:01is just a playmaker. He's one of those guys that you can't keep off
- 1:13:04the field. But yeah, Dysaun mccollaugh doing the will and when you have
- 1:13:15so we're watching the game one time the song comes in and I was like,
- 1:13:17the song's coming in the will and I was like, the son's not
- 1:13:20disguising that he's coming. He's he's talking to the quarterback in the offense like
- 1:13:26he's like, I'm coming, and he wasn't trying to hide it at all.
- 1:13:30And that's the one where Jay brought up where he he blitzed in and
- 1:13:33if he puts an arm out, he you know, he bats that ball
- 1:13:36down. It's it's it's beautiful. I mean, it is just absolutely beautiful.
- 1:13:44I got nothing. I mean, Cannick, listen, Cannick. The
- 1:13:47problem with Caanic is the fact that you can't have somebody out there where that
- 1:13:53you know is just going to be good for two busts a game, and
- 1:13:57like you just can't do it, especially with know the potential you know,
- 1:14:01yeah, the potential the season that you have in front. I mean,
- 1:14:06you just can't. You've got too much talent. So if he can't get
- 1:14:10it mentally, he's that's it's just the mental piece, because you know,
- 1:14:15if you had him rushing all the time, you're worried about him just running
- 1:14:18right past who he's supposed to tackle. I don't think that Kanick is a
- 1:14:23bad linebacker. Kanick is the guy who's probably our best linebacker, you know,
- 1:14:27three or four years ago, Like like you said, with speed D
- 1:14:30and I hate it, So I hate it for him. That's a fair
- 1:14:34point too, that he probably would have been great in that speed d It's
- 1:14:38so I guess, I guess the big thing with him is Canick, you
- 1:14:41got this. We all have faith that you're going to figure this out and
- 1:14:43make it, make it happen and be one of the elites out there.
- 1:14:45So I'm not that concerned. I'm just gonna just gonna say, you figure
- 1:14:47it out. We have an announcement real quick, we got and we're just
- 1:14:53breaking news, breaking news too. Then hopefully that doesn't get me trademark copyright
- 1:15:02fringe. But twenty twenty seven, defensive lineman Zane Rowe has picked committed to
- 1:15:09Oklahoma. He picks the Sooners over Texas and Jauja, which Jauja, which
- 1:15:18tells me everything I need to know about you know what. What's going on
- 1:15:23with this commitment is that you know, this young man decided to pick us
- 1:15:27over Georgia and he loved what happened in the spring game. He said that
- 1:15:30he's ready to do that. Shout out to him. I'm pretty excited the
- 1:15:33fact that we've got ourselves at twenty twenty seven, that committed right here,
- 1:15:38during the show, hopefully we get something on somebody else that everybody is of
- 1:15:42course talking about in the comments now and excited about. So we're gonna go
- 1:15:45right into defensive line. Now, I'm gonna wrap this bad boy up to
- 1:15:48the bowl and it with the defensive line, and then we'll talk special teams
- 1:15:50and kick y'all out of here. As you know, kicking is one of
- 1:15:54the problems that we actually kind of have, it seems like, so first
- 1:16:00if it's a line. Look, I'm gonna say this, this has kind
- 1:16:03of been my thought about the entire time, Edges. We've got a great
- 1:16:10rotation. I'm just ready to see who pops off and becomes a dude.
- 1:16:14I think one that may. I don't think he's gonna be a surprise for
- 1:16:16anybody, because it seems like he's just been He made all kinds of plays
- 1:16:19in there. It's gonna be a Woollekdan Woollard. I gosh, like I
- 1:16:27saw him. I saw him everywhere when he got his chance on the field.
- 1:16:32I am very happy that we got him out of Miami, Ohio.
- 1:16:35And when we were chopping up with his dad, his dad was telling us
- 1:16:38how he was using his natural ability at Miami, and then when he got
- 1:16:42here, it's like you can see that there's more of a technique piece that
- 1:16:44was going in. You're like, dang, that's good. Gotta love that,
- 1:16:48right, that's a big plus. Oll Koye is gonna be scary.
- 1:16:53He's already like two fifty five Ish said, he's gonna play between that and
- 1:16:58two sixty is his goal, and that's gonna be his manageable weight. I
- 1:17:01stood next to this dude, and I'm just like, that is not fair
- 1:17:04for you to be that huge of a human being. I sense there's gonna
- 1:17:09be a find. They gotta find a way to get him on the field.
- 1:17:10Sometimes PJ was doing his things, so was R. Mason Thomas.
- 1:17:14It's it's crazy. I'm curious to see what the rotations either Ethan Downs.
- 1:17:16I want to see what the rotation is gonna look like on the edges.
- 1:17:18That's what I'm curious about. How they do it, because just about all
- 1:17:23of them is gonna find a way to make some stuff happen when you go
- 1:17:26in the middle. So BV said this after the game and his presser.
- 1:17:30David Stone and Jay and Jackson are both over three hundred pounds. They weighed
- 1:17:33in before the game over three hundred. Yes, if you look at the
- 1:17:36roster that was put out, it doesn't say that because that's the weight from
- 1:17:40March fifth. They are both over three hundred pounds. So you got three
- 1:17:45dudes over three hundred pounds minimum. I think Sears may be right there.
- 1:17:49He's two ninety minimum and he's considered the MVP or the most improved player for
- 1:17:56them throughout camp. G Baby was out up there looking like he's ready to
- 1:18:00make the next step. All we need now is another day, Jon Terry.
- 1:18:05We need another three fifteen to three twenty five dude to really eat up
- 1:18:11space and cause problems. Coop mentioned this, he was talking. We were
- 1:18:15talking to one of the parents how Jay and Jackson, and it's just something
- 1:18:18with all the defensive players, right, they all have done a really good
- 1:18:23job of fixing their problems immediately. And I'll let Coop tell the story about
- 1:18:27the play that Jane Jackson did and how he went one way, got caught
- 1:18:30up, and then he fixed it on the next play. They're learning fast
- 1:18:33and that's the good thing, right, G Babies got it. I'm curious
- 1:18:39to see where Champ Sanders as well as Marcus Strong ends up. They were
- 1:18:44starting to I saw some force push out of them too. But it's all
- 1:18:48about the competition across the field from him, Let's put it that way.
- 1:18:54I think that though, I think that defensive line we add another big body,
- 1:19:00maybe to another day John Terry. Basically, we'll be just fine there,
- 1:19:04just fine. Cool pass to you, b l our D. Line
- 1:19:11is gonna be good. That's all I have. No, it's yeah,
- 1:19:16Cayden Willard is going to be going to be a guy. Ethan Downs continues
- 1:19:21to get better and better and better. And James I, I can't remember
- 1:19:26what I said about Downs last year, but no, I didn't believe in
- 1:19:29Downs. I thought he was a joke that he was. I thought it
- 1:19:30was it was just yeah, the Guebu thing the year before. I thought
- 1:19:34it was gonna be the exact same. And but Ethan Downs, he doesn't
- 1:19:40make stat sheet plays, but he makes plays a lot. He's learning stuff.
- 1:19:46So uh yeah, Jayden, Jayden has Jaden likes running him a stunt.
- 1:19:51And if you see Jayden Jackson during the game, go watch, go
- 1:19:56watch watch what he's doing. So there's a one one point where he tries
- 1:19:59to swim move and he and he just he goes right into a double team
- 1:20:02and he just gets held up right. And so a couple of plays later,
- 1:20:06he sees that double team coming again and he spins out and he's just
- 1:20:11right there in front of the quarterback and he just taps him and he's down.
- 1:20:15So adjustments, if the players can make adjustments, Yeah, if the
- 1:20:24players can make adjustments on the fly, it's it's something that you don't I
- 1:20:29mean, we don't. We haven't seen in a long time. You know,
- 1:20:32we got to see okoye uh. Nigel Smith was out there running around.
- 1:20:35G baby looks like he's finally ready to take that step. Mar Mason
- 1:20:40looks extremely healthy. So you know, Chris, you said that you think
- 1:20:49this is a ten win team. I mean outside of stuff that you can't
- 1:20:54predict happening. I see it. I see it. I mean it looks
- 1:20:58good because I say, going into last year, you know, we're going
- 1:21:01to be facing a lot of you know, first year quarterbacks this year and
- 1:21:05we will and I promise you if if that, I don't give a damn.
- 1:21:11If it's our defense, who on our defense is our best unit?
- 1:21:14Like, let's just hit let's work. You know, the first thing.
- 1:21:17First things first is every game by game. But this team wants to show
- 1:21:23up to the SEC and take over with defense, to just absolutely take over
- 1:21:28with defense. Uh. PJ looks like you know we've said in the chat
- 1:21:31here, PJ has an absolute Uh. He's taking steps little by little by
- 1:21:38little, And if I was him, I would be in yoga all summer
- 1:21:42long to work on his flexibility. He needs to learn how to He just
- 1:21:46needs to learn how to use every weapon available to him. So, guys,
- 1:21:53it's I mean, I think right now, we run it. We
- 1:21:56run. We don't want Stone and Jackson really playing four hundred staffs this year,
- 1:22:01like you want them playing one hundred and fifty to two hundred and rotating
- 1:22:04in Because in the SEC, you have to have I mean, you're gonna
- 1:22:09have to have six defensive linemen that you can fully I mean defensive like tackles
- 1:22:16you need several, You need several. You need guys who can come in
- 1:22:20and just take a block every once in a while. So if we can
- 1:22:24have six dudes on the inside that are ready to contribute and four or five
- 1:22:29guys on the outside, six guys on the outside, like that's what you
- 1:22:32want to see, and you want to see guys dominate and this year get
- 1:22:35to the quarterback. Yeah, Chris d Line, looking at that, how
- 1:22:41are you feeling about them? And the continuity. That's why pointed out here
- 1:22:45very well, we didn't really play everybody together, right, there's a lot
- 1:22:48of youth on that line, and we do, like you mentioned this a
- 1:22:53few times, we do need an additional three hundred. If we got three
- 1:22:57three hundred pounders, which is solid, I think Georgia has like six,
- 1:23:00so does Bama. We need to get closer the five big guys. So
- 1:23:03if we can land these transfers that we're trying to woo right now, that's
- 1:23:08a big deal. But talk to me about that. Look, first off,
- 1:23:11I'm want to say this right here, Grayson Alton, after that first
- 1:23:14drive coming towards kind of like the middle of the middle of the game,
- 1:23:17I do it was night and day like that. That that dude has to
- 1:23:21be on the field this year. He is. He is and I want
- 1:23:28to say this respectfully, but he's an upgraded version of Jacob Lacy. I
- 1:23:31mean, I'm just just gonna be honest with you. He's he can make
- 1:23:34some noise. This year. We already know what we're gonna get from Terry,
- 1:23:40but you got to go out there and just add depth to that room.
- 1:23:43I think that one of the things I'm looking for with with with Stony.
- 1:23:48I need Stony to really kind of one continue to improve his body,
- 1:23:54which obviously he's gained a way, but now it's timing really kind of like,
- 1:23:57let's let's fill this out. Let's figure out how we want to chills
- 1:24:00of this out. But two, I need Stony just to keep working on
- 1:24:03the technique and all the rest of that stuff. He has the talent,
- 1:24:06he has all the rest of those things that he should be able to field
- 1:24:09this year. Him and Jay and Jackson loved seeing the stunt game different things
- 1:24:12like that. What I will say is is that I like Champ senders out
- 1:24:17there too. I thought, d Line, did you look pretty good?
- 1:24:20Those guys are Those guys are fighting. Those guys are fighting in an interior.
- 1:24:25Is where the battles were really at during the game yesterday. If we're
- 1:24:30gonna stretch it out outside, this is one thing I will say, people,
- 1:24:33please do not sleep on the fact that you have a healthy trace for
- 1:24:36this year, not a trace. Ford is taking mental reps, not really
- 1:24:41fitting into to the whole script, not knowing the plays, all the rest
- 1:24:45of that stuff. Now you have a trace Ford this year. I think
- 1:24:47trace Ford is trace Ford is going to be exactly what they wanted Stripling to
- 1:24:51be last year. But Stripling was obviously injured, different things that came up.
- 1:24:57Trace Ford is going to be that guy that's kind of like the odd
- 1:24:59Men and in the rotation that comes out there and you're like, wait,
- 1:25:01man, who's Oh that's forward and he's gonna make noise. You saw a
- 1:25:06glimpse of it early on in that UCF game when he just I mean he
- 1:25:10could they could not stop him. I saw it again this week. I
- 1:25:15mean, the good dude is really good with his hands, he's savvy,
- 1:25:17he's a vet. I think this is a year where you can see some
- 1:25:20really good production from him. And I'm not talking about starting production. I'm
- 1:25:25just talking about guys to where getting us to the point to where it's not
- 1:25:30a huge fall off when an R. Mason Thomas or those guys are not
- 1:25:34out there. Right. I saw R. Mason Thomas, he made some
- 1:25:39plays, A lot of people really pleased with him. Stay healthy, please,
- 1:25:44p J yeah out there, man, it's just getting the ben.
- 1:25:47I think Taylor Taylor Wye is another guy that I liked yesterday. Only thing
- 1:25:54I would say about him is that, hey, you just have to continue
- 1:25:58learning how to play with that on you now, because when you were in
- 1:26:01high school it was easy to ben and do different things like that because you're
- 1:26:04six six, you know, kind of slender, kind of you know,
- 1:26:09a little bit smaller build. But now that you have that weight on you,
- 1:26:13just continue to learn how to apply that technique and you're gonna be fine.
- 1:26:17I think the line is gonna be fine. Man. I literally I
- 1:26:20left there saying, man, it was a lot of doomer and gloomers.
- 1:26:25It wasn't no boomer showers out there. It was like, it felt really
- 1:26:28good yesterday. It felt really good because I was like, hey, man,
- 1:26:31our defensive line for what it. We don't have a you know,
- 1:26:38Gerald McCoy out there, but we got a bunch of lunch pill guys,
- 1:26:41and I'm good. Damn. I'm definitely okay with that. I'm definitely okay
- 1:26:45with that. PG. Yeah, Edge guys not really worried about that.
- 1:26:51Going into the spring game. I really looked at the Edge room, and
- 1:26:55I said, you know, Oklahoma's gonna get what they get, Like we
- 1:26:58got five star outa by Warrior there. I think we were gonna see him
- 1:27:00a little bit more. And actually he impressed me a little bit in the
- 1:27:03spring game because we didn't get to see a whole lot of him last year.
- 1:27:06But I was really looking and I was focused on some of these interior
- 1:27:10guys, specifically guys that we did not see last year, like a Devon
- 1:27:15Sears. This was a guy that came in from Texas State, and I
- 1:27:17think some of us had hopes that, hey, like if this guy gets
- 1:27:20up to the right way, maybe I think our expectations are at least my
- 1:27:24expectations last year for Sears were a little bit preemptive, and I think this
- 1:27:30year he's going to be a really solid rotational piece. And you saw it
- 1:27:34yesterday like he was getting into the backfield. He was I think he had
- 1:27:40one or two QB hurries, but he had a couple tackles in there as
- 1:27:43well, and I believe shared or even got his own sacks. So I
- 1:27:46believe Devon Sears is going to be a good, key rotational piece on that
- 1:27:50defensive line. And then just seeing David Stone and Jade Jackson out there,
- 1:27:56right, We've heard so much in the scrimmages and the practices like they look
- 1:28:00really good. But to actually be able to see it with my own eyes
- 1:28:04and to be able to see those two and how physically ready that those two
- 1:28:08dudes look like, I think that was probably one of the bigger takeaways was
- 1:28:12seeing those two true freshmen on the defensive line look ready to go out and
- 1:28:17play with some of the big boys in the SEC. So yeah, I
- 1:28:20think the defensive line is a crucial piece not only to just the defense being
- 1:28:26successful this year, but also on the recruiting trail because we know there's still
- 1:28:30some depth issues there and you would hope you're gonna get that fixed to the
- 1:28:33transfer portal. But if David Stone and Jaydon Jackson go out there and show
- 1:28:36out, I mean obviously they look the part, I think that helps.
- 1:28:41But if they go out there and show out this season, that's going to
- 1:28:45it's gonna expedite your recruiting efforts. So I was really impressed with the interior
- 1:28:51defensive line. I think it looked a lot better than I expected it to.
- 1:28:56And yeah, I mean I was telling you at the softball game.
- 1:29:00I said, if Oklahoma lands Williams and low Lay, you probably lose one
- 1:29:05dude in that room, and it's probably going to be a Strong or a
- 1:29:10Sanders. But even if you lose one of those two and you get both
- 1:29:14of those guys, this defensive line will be elite. Guysicians are key,
- 1:29:18go ahead. I we saw a ton of Marcus Strong early and that surprised
- 1:29:26me. And what did it was? When it was it? Heim is
- 1:29:30number forty four. I mean, he looks. Jay said who's the number
- 1:29:35forty four? And I said Clint Ingram and he was like, You're so
- 1:29:39stupid, and I was like, no, that's time, and it just
- 1:29:42he looked good. But I think we've we've covered this. I just want
- 1:29:46to give a shout out for our boy Worzy for hitting the same amount of
- 1:29:51field goals as dou football kickers. So, guys, I apologize if you
- 1:29:58have listen these barely athletic heathens. As I posted in the chat, I
- 1:30:04cannot control these guys. You know they say that, they say that it
- 1:30:10you know, it was one of the biggest biggest frustrations besides Hawkins not having
- 1:30:15a great day Statistically, the kickers have had a great year. I mean,
- 1:30:19both Keltner and the other guy. I'm just gonna leave leave it there,
- 1:30:24and Liam, they've all been doing good. So you know it's it's
- 1:30:28I think that our punning is going to be fine. You know, they
- 1:30:30were rotating the logan in there with with Elzinga. El Zinga, you know,
- 1:30:35when he really dove in, he keecked the crap out of the ball.
- 1:30:38So we'll see. I mean, maybe if we just score touchdowns every
- 1:30:43time, we don't need a kicker. Yeah, So Zach Schmidt hit one
- 1:30:46of his field goal, his one for one twenty nine yards, but Tyler
- 1:30:49missed his. He was oh for one. Liam made his two point after
- 1:30:56his Pats actually were six for six on the Pats, by the way,
- 1:31:00but Liam didn't actually kick any field goals, so it's kind of only that
- 1:31:02that bothered me a little bit. I want to see him kick a field
- 1:31:04goals so we can see what we got, because that's the one that everybody's
- 1:31:08been hyping up. Right, more kid, the one that's got a boot.
- 1:31:11As we go in here and we start slandering the kicking game, there's
- 1:31:15the problem with everything, right, We've sinked them. Make these fifties and
- 1:31:20fifty five yarders in practice. Until you get to an actual game situation,
- 1:31:26we have no clue what it's gonna look like. And it sucks. They're
- 1:31:30actually making them in practice. It's not like they're missing them in practice.
- 1:31:32That's the problem. If they were missing in practice, I would totally be
- 1:31:36on the doom with everybody else. But they're making them and then they're not
- 1:31:40making them now. So what it appears is we just gotta get them out
- 1:31:43there kicking some field goals. Hopefully we don't kick any field goals against Temple
- 1:31:47or Houston or Tulane. They may not get an opportunity problem. Yeah,
- 1:31:55when that first kiss kick was missed, did anybody notice anything? Did y'all
- 1:32:00notice that the crowd sounded like an eighty sitcom? Whenever they was like,
- 1:32:03oh, you're like, hey, look it's I put my hand in my
- 1:32:13I put my head in my hands. Aside, I don't know, I
- 1:32:15don't know. Maybe we should my and my uncle he reached over to me,
- 1:32:18grabbed me. He said, we need to get into portal now,
- 1:32:21except we need to kick us. I don't know, I don't know.
- 1:32:25I mean we've got like six somebody, we've got something's gotta be figured out
- 1:32:30here, right, and we just have to see what. I don't think
- 1:32:32it's fair to slander all of it because we don't know yet. It's still
- 1:32:40in we we yeah, we're still waiting, right, We're still waiting for
- 1:32:46We gotta wait until, yeah, we gotta wait until I gotta say this
- 1:32:50right here. All I say is this, I need a kicker, okay,
- 1:32:54because the first thing that pops into my mind is twenty eight and then
- 1:32:57I'm gonna leave it there. If you know, I know, I know,
- 1:33:00I know, I know, I know, I yeah, yeah,
- 1:33:03yeah, well well yeah, listen, listen anyway, listen. We missed
- 1:33:10a goddamn field goal. One field goal in an exhibition game. I'm sorry
- 1:33:15for the language, but if you are losing your ship and saying our special
- 1:33:18teams are gonna be doll crap because we missed one field goal and expectation on
- 1:33:23a in a stadium that it was like fifty degrees and the wind was blowing
- 1:33:28like like, oh my gosh, that is typical, Like I mean,
- 1:33:32that's the definition of a I don't want to hear that. I don't want
- 1:33:35to hear that what's coming there? Last year with your stomach feeling uneasy,
- 1:33:43your uncle Cally you saying, man, it's well, keep out the miss.
- 1:33:45Oh my god, it's no. I need to feel confident. I
- 1:33:49need to break away from the screen every time a kicker comes out there on
- 1:33:54the field for oh you, it's bad. Listen, No, no,
- 1:33:57no, listen, this is a good thing. Our kicking is so bad
- 1:34:00then all of a sudden we go for it on fourth down every time.
- 1:34:04Listen. I'm just sad because I actually wasn't paying attention during the missfield goal
- 1:34:10kick, so I didn't get to post my chicken little meme where he's up
- 1:34:13in the tower ringing the bell, yelling the sky is falling, because that's
- 1:34:16literally what happened to ou Twitter when the field goal was missed. The sky
- 1:34:20is falling. It's over, guys, we're done. We're gonna shut down
- 1:34:24the program now because we missed the field goal. But I'll say this though,
- 1:34:28keep it and you know, being all seriousness, I do think we
- 1:34:30still have work there. The good thing is is that we've got like six
- 1:34:35We still got what the high schooler coming in also, so if they're making
- 1:34:43them in practice. That's with pressure. That is kind of the thing they're
- 1:34:46making and we've got we've we just got to see it in the game.
- 1:34:49I think we will. I think we will. I just but we got
- 1:34:55a lot of duses to rotate through. That's the thing. We got a
- 1:34:57lot of dues to rotates through. And if we go into portal and bring
- 1:35:00another one in, then that tells you right there that we are working on
- 1:35:04it. But we still got a high schooler coming that is I don't think
- 1:35:08he early. He wasn't early and Roly so yeah, hey, we had
- 1:35:13a five star kicker on campus for the big recruit. So just so everybody's
- 1:35:16aware, we're still recruiting kickers, even though we got a five star kicker,
- 1:35:19We're still recruiting them because I just I just think I think this.
- 1:35:28I think that every time a kicker misses, they got to run Oklahoma drill
- 1:35:31with uh with Kobe, McKenzie, Jade and Jackson and Boganowski or they or
- 1:35:40Boganowski just happy Gilmore's every single time that kicked that, he just runs off
- 1:35:44the sideline. We just need to bring back old Schmidty and they just need
- 1:35:48to run the stairs. You know what, I get it. We don't
- 1:35:51want the zone anymore, but they can run all the other stairs. Just
- 1:35:56just start making the run the stairs again. They'll learn really quickly because I've
- 1:35:59heard those are terrible. That is, we don't we don't have to.
- 1:36:03We don't have to panic about the kicker, guys, I I we just
- 1:36:06don't have to pay. Like if we're three games in and the like,
- 1:36:12then we can do that. But we missed one field goal. I mean,
- 1:36:15it's it's it's yeah, we love if they would hit it. Would
- 1:36:17you rather than miss it and worry about it? And then we turn out
- 1:36:19to be good or we'd rather him make that, and then we feel good
- 1:36:23about it and they suck again. You know what's really gonna make Sooner Nation
- 1:36:27panic because when we roll out Zach Schmidt for the first field goal this season,
- 1:36:30everybody's gonna lose their mind. And on that note, we run this
- 1:36:34bad boy up. Hey, we're done. We've got an hour and a
- 1:36:38half. I knew it's gonna be a long because everybody had great opinions and
- 1:36:41great thoughts on this one. No reason for the sky to fall. The
- 1:36:44good thing is is that a couple of tweaks here and there. Fall Camp's
- 1:36:48gonna be fun. Just know that fall camp is when everything's gonna go down.
- 1:36:53The thunderplay tonight, Gonna go watch the game with PG. Chris coming
- 1:36:57up to the chalk. You ain't got nothing else to do with your life,
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- 1:37:10PG show. Show him the same love, do the same thing for the
- 1:37:14Horns Down Podcast. We've always keeping the horns down around here, even for
- 1:37:17my Texas fans. We love y'all. But yeah, with that, we
- 1:37:20will chop it up with every single one of y'all and videos over the next
- 1:37:25week, very soon, Under Up, Under Up, Under Up Pigs