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- 0:01Speaker 1: Jeffuarris, Did you don't Jack, Jack Morris? Did you go?
- 0:05Speaker 1: Jaguarris Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps that, John Oh says
- 0:10Speaker 1: it Ashley Jaguarris Drive Time starts right now. Good morning,
- 0:17Speaker 1: Happy Friday to you up in Adam Jags Drive Time,
- 0:21Speaker 1: Ryan Ashland. John Big smiles. I hope you've had a
- 0:25Speaker 1: busy week. If we've got a good week, we're bringing
- 0:28Speaker 1: head coach Doug Moreau right out of the gate with
- 0:30Speaker 1: coffee with the coach. Good morning, How are you? Good morning?
- 0:32Speaker 1: Doing well? Been a good week for you? Uh, it's
- 0:35Speaker 1: been a week. Yeah, We've been working hard and it's
- 0:38Speaker 1: been a week. I mean, you know it's just you think,
- 0:40Speaker 1: you know now that you're at the end of just
- 0:41Speaker 1: you know, there there is a little reflection I'm not
- 0:43Speaker 1: gonna deny that. You try to focus on the daily
- 0:46Speaker 1: you know, stuff of going on, and you know, but
- 0:49Speaker 1: you know, you're kind of kicking yourself in the butt,
- 0:51Speaker 1: you know, for you know, the type of season that
- 0:53Speaker 1: we've had, so it kind of weighs on you. But
- 0:55Speaker 1: you gotta do a good job. You know, you gotta
- 0:57Speaker 1: lead the team and still you know, a ton to
- 0:59Speaker 1: play for or for us um, even though people on
- 1:02Speaker 1: the outside may not write that or say that, Um,
- 1:05Speaker 1: but you know this team has a lot of pride
- 1:07Speaker 1: and you know, we know we're going into a tough situation,
- 1:09Speaker 1: a playoff type atmosphere, a team that you know had
- 1:12Speaker 1: a lot on the line, and you know that that
- 1:14Speaker 1: needs to bring our game up and we need to
- 1:15Speaker 1: go out there and play well. That was a moment
- 1:18Speaker 1: of pure candor there because I came in this morning
- 1:21Speaker 1: complimenting are going to compliment you about Wednesday when guys
- 1:24Speaker 1: were trying to get you to focus and reflect, uh,
- 1:27Speaker 1: and you were completely focused on just the game. Yeah.
- 1:31Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, how hard is that to
- 1:33Speaker 1: do at the end of the year. It's it's earlier
- 1:35Speaker 1: in the week. It's I mean, you you want to
- 1:38Speaker 1: be that way the whole time. I mean, you want
- 1:40Speaker 1: to be with like that every day and you have
- 1:41Speaker 1: to be you know, when you know you're up there
- 1:43Speaker 1: in front of the team and you're up there in
- 1:45Speaker 1: front of the coaches, and then you know in the
- 1:47Speaker 1: beginning of the week, it's it's it's obviously easier because
- 1:50Speaker 1: there's so much on your plate that you have to
- 1:51Speaker 1: get done. You know, from a schedule standpoint, so you
- 1:54Speaker 1: really can't afford to do anything like that. And then
- 1:58Speaker 1: you know, you know last night, you know, just on
- 2:01Speaker 1: on the on the way home, I you know, just
- 2:03Speaker 1: started you know, kind of rehashing a little bit, and um,
- 2:07Speaker 1: you know, just put you in that that same thing.
- 2:09Speaker 1: It's just like taking that just like you know, it's
- 2:11Speaker 1: a gut wrenching type feeling, you know, of of disappointment.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Not not only you know that you did a poor
- 2:17Speaker 1: job and I'm only talking about myself, is that you know,
- 2:20Speaker 1: the people that you've let down, you know, the people
- 2:22Speaker 1: that came into the season that excited the fans, the
- 2:24Speaker 1: people have supported the you know, the expectations and things
- 2:27Speaker 1: that that nature and you know and that that that
- 2:30Speaker 1: weighs on you for a long period of time. And um,
- 2:33Speaker 1: you know, but you just you know, for me, you know,
- 2:35Speaker 1: once I walked through those gates and I come in
- 2:38Speaker 1: you know in the morning, and you know, you flipped
- 2:40Speaker 1: the switch and you go. I think fans sometimes don't
- 2:44Speaker 1: realize the reality what you just said that there's just
- 2:48Speaker 1: not time on a Thursday in week fourteen to reflect
- 2:54Speaker 1: on the big picture of the season. Fans and observers
- 2:57Speaker 1: do it all the time because they have time to
- 2:58Speaker 1: do it. But in your schedule, there's really not time
- 3:00Speaker 1: to look back until the seasons. Everywhere is yeah, there's
- 3:03Speaker 1: really not. I mean, it's just a constant wave of
- 3:07Speaker 1: you know what you have to get get done. I
- 3:09Speaker 1: used to tell people all the time, and a lot
- 3:10Speaker 1: of people think, you know, I think most people realize
- 3:13Speaker 1: it's not a nine to five type situation. And but
- 3:16Speaker 1: what's interesting is, you know, when these schedules get put out,
- 3:20Speaker 1: you know, and let's say you're sitting there in March
- 3:22Speaker 1: and someone says, hey, listen, November seventeenth, what are you
- 3:25Speaker 1: doing at two o'clock, you know, you can honestly tell
- 3:27Speaker 1: them you know what you're gonna be doing. And you know,
- 3:30Speaker 1: because you have uh set times of where everything has
- 3:33Speaker 1: to be done and deadlines that have to be met,
- 3:35Speaker 1: you know, as far as the game planning, and one
- 3:38Speaker 1: has to be done and one has to be drawn up.
- 3:39Speaker 1: So it's it's it's a pretty tough schedule, uh to
- 3:43Speaker 1: go through. I remember early in my career, you know,
- 3:46Speaker 1: I was you know, staying up you know, one night,
- 3:49Speaker 1: like truly within twenty four hours because I was a
- 3:51Speaker 1: young coach, and I had a game plan, I had
- 3:53Speaker 1: a draw and I had to do all that stuff.
- 3:55Speaker 1: And you know, some day, some night, most Tuesdays, I
- 3:59Speaker 1: didn't sleep, you know, and then went into Wednesday and
- 4:02Speaker 1: then try to catch up on the weekend. And you know,
- 4:04Speaker 1: it was my first year in the league and UM
- 4:06Speaker 1: an older and older coach, a veteran coach by the
- 4:09Speaker 1: name of Jimmy Ray Jr. Whose coached a long time
- 4:13Speaker 1: in the league. I remember he told me, He's like,
- 4:15Speaker 1: you're not gonna make it in this league. You know,
- 4:16Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to to do what you're
- 4:18Speaker 1: doing and and be successful because you know, you've got
- 4:23Speaker 1: to get yourself on a schedule. And I learned early
- 4:26Speaker 1: in this league that if you can get yourself on
- 4:28Speaker 1: a schedule of you know, what time you wake up,
- 4:31Speaker 1: you know, try to have a time where you want
- 4:32Speaker 1: to go to sleep, when you eat, you know, everything
- 4:35Speaker 1: that you eat during the week, stay on the same schedule,
- 4:38Speaker 1: and that that helps you get through UM a season
- 4:41Speaker 1: because these seasons are obviously, you know, they're quite long.
- 4:44Speaker 1: I had an opportunity wants to interview Bill Walsh about
- 4:46Speaker 1: the same subject is after he retired for the forty niners,
- 4:50Speaker 1: and he was at Stanford and he said the one
- 4:54Speaker 1: thing that he had all week was on the Saturday
- 4:58Speaker 1: night if it was a road game, his version of
- 5:00Speaker 1: Tyler Wolf would bring up an alcoholic drink of some kind,
- 5:05Speaker 1: but you know, just one drink all week. And he said,
- 5:09Speaker 1: I was sitting down in the press room when I
- 5:11Speaker 1: interviewed him on the phone, and he said, nine times
- 5:13Speaker 1: out of ten, I woke up and there was one
- 5:15Speaker 1: sip gone front, you know. And that's just the pace
- 5:19Speaker 1: of the schedule that head coach, somebody in that responsibility
- 5:22Speaker 1: that chair takes. There's not much time for relaxation. No,
- 5:26Speaker 1: you're you're never relaxed because you're always you're always thinking,
- 5:29Speaker 1: you know, you're always playing, you know, through and it's like,
- 5:32Speaker 1: you know, normally the you know what happens, you know Friday, uh,
- 5:37Speaker 1: you know Friday night, you know, you you try to,
- 5:39Speaker 1: you know, see your family one time that you you
- 5:42Speaker 1: know during the week that you're actually have an opportunity.
- 5:45Speaker 1: You know, it was good when the kids were young,
- 5:46Speaker 1: you know, because they were home. Now it's like, you know,
- 5:48Speaker 1: by the time I get home, they're out and by
- 5:50Speaker 1: the time they come back. I'm sleeping, you know, you know,
- 5:53Speaker 1: trying to get asleep. But then you know, on on
- 5:55Speaker 1: a Saturday, it's it's it's always difficult tonight before because
- 5:58Speaker 1: you're you're playing the game in your mind. I visually
- 6:01Speaker 1: play the game, go through all the game plans, have
- 6:04Speaker 1: them out, looked through them, talk through them, and try to,
- 6:07Speaker 1: you know, visualize how this game is going to be
- 6:09Speaker 1: played out and the calls that are gonna be made
- 6:11Speaker 1: during the course of the game. So you know, it's tough.
- 6:14Speaker 1: And then you know you're you're exhausted and you wake
- 6:17Speaker 1: up and then you obviously your your anxiety and you're
- 6:20Speaker 1: fired up to get to the stadium. That's the worst
- 6:22Speaker 1: part when you wake up, from the time you wake
- 6:24Speaker 1: up on Sunday to the time that you actually UH
- 6:28Speaker 1: kick off. That's why coaches can't stand night games for
- 6:30Speaker 1: the most sitting around the hotel all the UH night games.
- 6:34Speaker 1: You know you want to wake you know, most coaches
- 6:36Speaker 1: just want to wake up and go play. So when
- 6:38Speaker 1: will you allow yourself time to reflect. Are you gonna
- 6:40Speaker 1: go somewhere with your family and say I want to
- 6:43Speaker 1: think about it, or is it just when it happens
- 6:45Speaker 1: it happens. No, I think that. I think I think
- 6:47Speaker 1: that you know, you have to you know, early on
- 6:50Speaker 1: while things are still freshen your mind. You know, there's
- 6:53Speaker 1: certain things that you want to get done. Uh, and
- 6:56Speaker 1: then you want to be able to pull yourself away
- 6:58Speaker 1: a little bit so then you can look at things
- 7:00Speaker 1: you don't want to be um evaluations and things of
- 7:04Speaker 1: that nature. You want to take the emotion out of it,
- 7:07Speaker 1: you know, and you know there's a lot of emotions.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, you know, with players,
- 7:11Speaker 1: and you're going through it, but you want to make
- 7:13Speaker 1: sure that you can you know, you don't want to
- 7:15Speaker 1: make any mistakes on you know, your evaluations of of
- 7:18Speaker 1: where you are and you know, and the first thing
- 7:20Speaker 1: I start with a self evaluation. So obviously that's gonna
- 7:23Speaker 1: be a long list and of things that I should
- 7:26Speaker 1: have done better this year. So you know, that's where
- 7:28Speaker 1: I'll start with. And you know, you're truthful with yourself,
- 7:31Speaker 1: you know where you could have done a better job,
- 7:33Speaker 1: things of that nature, and you know I'll start with that.
- 7:36Speaker 1: And and obviously, um, I've always been someone that's been
- 7:39Speaker 1: extremely hard on myself and taking accountability. Are you a
- 7:42Speaker 1: list guy. Yes, okay, I'd like to scratch those things
- 7:45Speaker 1: off and just go down them. Yeah. It's annoying because
- 7:47Speaker 1: in the summer when I'm on vacation, I always yeah,
- 7:49Speaker 1: I said, I said, I said, goals for myself of
- 7:51Speaker 1: what I want to do, and it drives my family crazy.
- 7:55Speaker 1: I want to rearrange the kitchen. I want to you know,
- 7:57Speaker 1: I want to put the nies. Whether Nie should be
- 7:59Speaker 1: with the forks of crazy stuff. I got issues, Yeah,
- 8:02Speaker 1: you should. You should meet Pat Kavanaugh. He's got a
- 8:04Speaker 1: list major issues. Yeah. So have you made the list
- 8:09Speaker 1: or will you do that on Sunday night on the
- 8:10Speaker 1: plane ride home or Monday of what you want to
- 8:15Speaker 1: to get done and how soon you want to get
- 8:17Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, that's it's already done. That's already done.
- 8:21Speaker 1: I have one player question. Not class came, but we
- 8:23Speaker 1: haven't talked to you since the game he had the
- 8:26Speaker 1: other day. Um, he had such a big year last year,
- 8:31Speaker 1: but it strikes me on some level that the year
- 8:33Speaker 1: he's had this year is just as impressive. Um, I
- 8:37Speaker 1: guess just talk about his consistency and his ability to
- 8:40Speaker 1: play at his level. Uh, no matter what's going on
- 8:43Speaker 1: around him. Yeah, you know, like I said, and I've
- 8:46Speaker 1: had a couple of questions during a week, you really
- 8:48Speaker 1: can't say enough about him. Um, you know the player,
- 8:51Speaker 1: you know, I think I think you're correct in what
- 8:52Speaker 1: you said. I mean, this year is just as impressive
- 8:55Speaker 1: as it was last year. The only issue is a
- 8:57Speaker 1: lot of times in this league, it's it's about the
- 9:00Speaker 1: number of sacks. You know, Um, you can get you know,
- 9:04Speaker 1: a ton of sacks or you know, double digit sacks,
- 9:07Speaker 1: and you know, at the end of the day, you
- 9:08Speaker 1: don't play the run, you'll still get a probably more
- 9:10Speaker 1: publicity of being his pass rusher and more notoriety because
- 9:15Speaker 1: you know, that's that's that's a number that people are
- 9:17Speaker 1: gonna focus on. But you know, I think for Calais
- 9:20Speaker 1: this year, what's been impressive is just the tackles for loss.
- 9:23Speaker 1: He still has the quarterback hits, the force fumbles. I mean,
- 9:27Speaker 1: you know, he's been a dominating force in a run
- 9:29Speaker 1: game this year. He said he might be his good
- 9:31Speaker 1: a Nay leagueinst run this year. I would say, I mean,
- 9:34Speaker 1: you know, with his numbers and the way he's played,
- 9:37Speaker 1: I would I would agree with that. I mean, I
- 9:38Speaker 1: don't know everyone else's numbers you know, but um, he's
- 9:42Speaker 1: done an outstanding job. And you're talking about someone that's
- 9:45Speaker 1: that's been a consistent football player in this league for
- 9:48Speaker 1: a long period of time, a guy that really goes
- 9:50Speaker 1: about the game, who's a true pro. Um, he's a
- 9:54Speaker 1: guy that you know, we all need to pick each
- 9:57Speaker 1: other up, but he's one player that you know, he's constant.
- 10:00Speaker 1: He's consistent in his his approach to the game. I
- 10:04Speaker 1: mean when you come in and you know, if I'm
- 10:06Speaker 1: in a team meaning and I'm saying something and you
- 10:08Speaker 1: look over at him, he's not in his head, Hey
- 10:09Speaker 1: let's go, let's get ready. I mean, you know, you
- 10:12Speaker 1: he's he's he's He's a great example of what approach
- 10:16Speaker 1: should be. I have a player, Todd Westbrook. We talked
- 10:19Speaker 1: about him when training camp began and we weren't sure
- 10:22Speaker 1: what his role was or how he was going to
- 10:25Speaker 1: grow in the offense. But watching him in Miami last week, Um,
- 10:28Speaker 1: the way that he fought for every yard, the way
- 10:31Speaker 1: that he ran through the middle of the field after
- 10:33Speaker 1: a catch, the way that he set up the punt
- 10:36Speaker 1: return and got to the outside with his feet. Uh.
- 10:40Speaker 1: He in a year in which the offense has not
- 10:42Speaker 1: been very good. He has gotten better and better, it seems. Yeah,
- 10:45Speaker 1: I would I would agree with that. I think you know,
- 10:48Speaker 1: you know, last year you can see the talent, you know,
- 10:50Speaker 1: but you didn't know, you know where it was going
- 10:53Speaker 1: to take it, because, like I said, there's a lot
- 10:55Speaker 1: of people with talents that are in the building and
- 10:57Speaker 1: a lot of people with talent in every neighborhood that
- 10:59Speaker 1: you know you walk through, but you know are they're
- 11:02Speaker 1: going to have the ability and a discipline to do it.
- 11:04Speaker 1: And I think that you know, d D started earlier
- 11:06Speaker 1: this year in training camp, he was doing a couple
- 11:09Speaker 1: of nice things, and you know, I think as you
- 11:11Speaker 1: perform in this league, I think then you know obviously
- 11:14Speaker 1: your your productivity. As that rises, then you're looking to
- 11:18Speaker 1: see how you can get more. And I think the
- 11:20Speaker 1: one thing uh with d D is that he's shown
- 11:23Speaker 1: that and that he has the ability not just on
- 11:26Speaker 1: you know, not just as a receiver, but I mean
- 11:28Speaker 1: he's one of the top punt returners in the league
- 11:31Speaker 1: right now, and I think everyone knows when they look
- 11:33Speaker 1: out there and he's back there, the other chance at
- 11:35Speaker 1: that ball can can go to the house, which is
- 11:37Speaker 1: which is great and I think, you know, there's other
- 11:39Speaker 1: things that he's he's done extremely well and whether it
- 11:42Speaker 1: sweeps reverses. You know, you saw us the other day.
- 11:45Speaker 1: You know, he can throw the football, so you know,
- 11:47Speaker 1: we tried to get him to throw a touchdown. So
- 11:50Speaker 1: you know we're we're trying to get him the football
- 11:52Speaker 1: and he's been a UM. I don't want to say
- 11:54Speaker 1: a surprise because I think when you do that, you
- 11:56Speaker 1: kind of, you know, look back and you're not saying,
- 11:59Speaker 1: you know, we respected him, you know, to be a
- 12:01Speaker 1: good football player. I think the one thing that that
- 12:03Speaker 1: people don't realize is, you know, he's not a very
- 12:06Speaker 1: big guy in in in stature. Obviously he can run,
- 12:09Speaker 1: but I'll tell you he is a tough guy, you know,
- 12:11Speaker 1: and I think that's what you're talking about, a fighting
- 12:13Speaker 1: for yards, doing the things you have to do. You know,
- 12:16Speaker 1: he'll make the tough catch of traffic, He'll he'll do
- 12:19Speaker 1: all those things. And you know, I have a lot
- 12:21Speaker 1: of respect for players that that can play the game
- 12:23Speaker 1: that way, no matter what their size and height and
- 12:27Speaker 1: all weight and all that stuff is. And you know
- 12:29Speaker 1: he's done a good job of that. And he loves competition.
- 12:33Speaker 1: I mean he likes going out there and compete. And
- 12:35Speaker 1: then I think one of the best things and and um,
- 12:38Speaker 1: I think my wife told me this is that she
- 12:40Speaker 1: was watching the game and you know, he caught a
- 12:42Speaker 1: pass and or he was on the run and the
- 12:44Speaker 1: guy hit him really hard and then the guy with
- 12:47Speaker 1: to pick him up and he's knocked his hand away,
- 12:49Speaker 1: you know. And I mean that's what I think that
- 12:51Speaker 1: that's a great example of what type of you know, competitor.
- 12:54Speaker 1: He's like, wait, you're not gonna knock the crap out
- 12:55Speaker 1: of me and think you're gonna help me up. I'm
- 12:57Speaker 1: gonna get up on my own. So you know, he's
- 13:00Speaker 1: he's done a nice job. Anything else, I'm good. I
- 13:02Speaker 1: have one more than we have kind of this working
- 13:04Speaker 1: I'm here for you. Just one more. We gotta this
- 13:07Speaker 1: working philosophy on the show. Uh, And that is the
- 13:10Speaker 1: teams in December that are playing for something as a
- 13:12Speaker 1: rule generally beat those teams that don't. And you beat
- 13:14Speaker 1: that last week, you beat that odd by beating the Dolphins.
- 13:17Speaker 1: So how do you have your team? It does it?
- 13:20Speaker 1: Does it say something about the character of this team
- 13:23Speaker 1: that you're going into Houston and they're talking about winning
- 13:26Speaker 1: that they're talking about beating that team for pride. Yeah,
- 13:28Speaker 1: I think so, because I think whenever, whenever, you know,
- 13:32Speaker 1: during the season, what's what's what's what's difficult, And it's
- 13:35Speaker 1: not that it's not known that this is gonna occur.
- 13:39Speaker 1: You know, when when you're not winning football games, there's
- 13:42Speaker 1: gonna be a point where people are going to question,
- 13:44Speaker 1: you know, your mindset and your effort and you know, whatever,
- 13:49Speaker 1: whatever it may be, everything's gonna be questioned. And you know,
- 13:52Speaker 1: as someone in this league or some former player, you
- 13:55Speaker 1: know that that's played. You know, what's hard for people
- 13:58Speaker 1: on the outside is that if you don't go out
- 14:00Speaker 1: there and play hard, you're pretty much obviously you can
- 14:03Speaker 1: get injured, but your that's your resume, what you put
- 14:07Speaker 1: out there on the field. So you know they're they're
- 14:10Speaker 1: gonna play hard, they're gonna get you know, give the effort.
- 14:13Speaker 1: So the character of the team from that standpoint, you
- 14:16Speaker 1: know they've they've fought, you know, and obviously we haven't
- 14:19Speaker 1: been consistent, but at least you know, I don't think
- 14:23Speaker 1: that from the way we play games. And again, you know,
- 14:26Speaker 1: the the effort part hasn't been in question. I mean
- 14:29Speaker 1: I think it happened during that losing streak. You know,
- 14:31Speaker 1: people were asking about that, but I think, you know,
- 14:33Speaker 1: it's shown that they have come back and played hard,
- 14:36Speaker 1: even in games where you know we were out of it,
- 14:38Speaker 1: making a goal line stand at the end or trying
- 14:40Speaker 1: to score you know, offensively. So you know, now we're
- 14:43Speaker 1: going into this last game and we need to, you know,
- 14:46Speaker 1: play at a very high level. Head coach, Dug Morell.
- 14:49Speaker 1: Coffee with the coach. Thank you for coming in every Friday.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Thank you guys as well. All right, we'll take a
- 14:54Speaker 1: break when we come back. Big things, but still ahead.
- 14:56Speaker 1: He will he won't. He might pick one game and
- 14:58Speaker 1: pick it in Fantasy football back after this. On Jags
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- 16:47Speaker 1: will have Monday's show for you, and then the three
- 16:50Speaker 1: of us will be back next Wednesday and we'll call
- 16:52Speaker 1: it season and then going forward, we'll have a show
- 16:56Speaker 1: on Tuesday's not exactly certain at the time. We're still
- 16:59Speaker 1: working on that, but two more shows on the two
- 17:02Speaker 1: thousand eighteen calendar, even though one of them will be
- 17:06Speaker 1: in two thousands. All right, thanks head coach Doug moronk Um.
- 17:11Speaker 1: You know, he does his radio show on Thursday nights,
- 17:15Speaker 1: and there aren't a lot of coaches that would pop
- 17:17Speaker 1: back in and give you time on a Friday morning,
- 17:19Speaker 1: you know. I mean, even though Friday is sort of
- 17:21Speaker 1: fun day around the NFL, they're cleaning things up. Uh,
- 17:24Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of coaches that would necessarily decided
- 17:27Speaker 1: to come and spend it. He doesn't say, you've got
- 17:29Speaker 1: five minutes with me, you know, I mean, if we
- 17:31Speaker 1: if we were still on with him, he would be okay. Um, So,
- 17:35Speaker 1: just a genuine appreciation for the fact that he makes
- 17:37Speaker 1: the time and tries to come in here and give
- 17:40Speaker 1: all of our viewers something that they can take away
- 17:43Speaker 1: from Sunday's game. Well, he's talked a lot since he's
- 17:46Speaker 1: been the coach here um about feeling an obligation to
- 17:50Speaker 1: the fans, and I get that every coach is going
- 17:54Speaker 1: to say that at a seven degree um. With him,
- 17:58Speaker 1: I think the fact that he's still a big Keys fan,
- 18:00Speaker 1: grew up a huge fan. He gets the fan connection. Um.
- 18:05Speaker 1: But it's one thing to say it, and it's another
- 18:07Speaker 1: thing too. You sort of walk the walk, if you will,
- 18:11Speaker 1: and U in in a twenty four years of doing
- 18:15Speaker 1: this in some college I've dealt with coaches on a
- 18:17Speaker 1: lot of different levels. I think a lot of coaches
- 18:20Speaker 1: would come in here and do this. I don't know
- 18:22Speaker 1: if as many coach if there's that many, who would
- 18:25Speaker 1: truly be engaged and work as hard as he does
- 18:30Speaker 1: to really be good at it and to and to
- 18:33Speaker 1: try to inform and show a little bit of himself. So, uh,
- 18:38Speaker 1: it's cool. It's been U. It's been very interesting two
- 18:41Speaker 1: years on that front with him doing this. I appreciate
- 18:44Speaker 1: it when you asked him a question and he doesn't
- 18:46Speaker 1: feel comfortable answering it, or he can't answer it. He
- 18:48Speaker 1: gives you reason on why he can't answer. He doesn't
- 18:51Speaker 1: just say no, I'm not answering that question. There's always
- 18:53Speaker 1: a reason behind it, which I think is appreciative because
- 18:55Speaker 1: a lot of coaches don't do that well. So a
- 18:57Speaker 1: reporter asked him on Wednesday, so how much old do
- 19:00Speaker 1: you have when it comes to put it together to
- 19:02Speaker 1: the to do list? I mean remember it? And he said, look,
- 19:04Speaker 1: I'm not I'm thinking of Texans. I'm not thinking about this.
- 19:08Speaker 1: And so when he sat down this morning and said,
- 19:11Speaker 1: you know, I'm starting to reflect him because I wasn't
- 19:13Speaker 1: expecting that because he has been so singular in focus
- 19:17Speaker 1: and and again in a genuine way it's all about
- 19:20Speaker 1: winning this week. Well, he made the point he let
- 19:22Speaker 1: other people worry about that stuff, right, And I think
- 19:25Speaker 1: it crept into his mind as he was driving home
- 19:28Speaker 1: last night. Uh after Yeah, the Hayes in the barn,
- 19:33Speaker 1: so to speak for all that, so there is time
- 19:37Speaker 1: to sort of you know, he he probably wasn't thinking, Okay, all,
- 19:41Speaker 1: what are we gonna do on third and eight from
- 19:43Speaker 1: the you know, Texans fourteen as he was on on Tuesday,
- 19:49Speaker 1: but yeah, he uh, there's the time to reflect. But
- 19:53Speaker 1: as you said, I think a lot of coaches would
- 19:55Speaker 1: have No, I'm not thinking about that yet. I'm not
- 19:57Speaker 1: gonna you know. But again he's willing to admit what's
- 20:00Speaker 1: going on, which is cool. How about a couple of
- 20:02Speaker 1: thoughts on big things and uh much more show ahead.
- 20:05Speaker 1: All right, Big thing one is significance. What is the
- 20:08Speaker 1: significant significance of Sunday's game? Yeah, tough word, man, words
- 20:13Speaker 1: are hard. But where the words or your work? Right?
- 20:17Speaker 1: When you work with words? Okay, that's how that words
- 20:20Speaker 1: or your work? Alright, there you go, John, significance of
- 20:23Speaker 1: Sunday's game. Locker room this week, no mercy. They want
- 20:26Speaker 1: to go in and play spoiler, just like they did
- 20:28Speaker 1: against the Miami Dolphins. It's been an interesting week because
- 20:32Speaker 1: everyone has still talked about winning on Sunday. There's but
- 20:35Speaker 1: no talk about the off season yet. It's all about
- 20:37Speaker 1: Sunday this week. Well, and the significance is Doug touched on.
- 20:40Speaker 1: He's obviously that these guys have pride in the you know,
- 20:42Speaker 1: this is your resume things. But you can get to
- 20:44Speaker 1: the end of a season like this and you have
- 20:47Speaker 1: a powerful team that's playing for, uh maybe the number
- 20:50Speaker 1: two seed at least the division title. Right. If that's
- 20:53Speaker 1: not enough motivation to host a home playoff game, um,
- 20:57Speaker 1: not playing on the road on wild Card week and
- 21:00Speaker 1: is certainly motivation as well. I mean, this can feel
- 21:02Speaker 1: like an ambush. You can get a team that just
- 21:04Speaker 1: gets down and this thing can get out of hand quickly. Um.
- 21:08Speaker 1: And I see the mismatch with the Jaguars offensive line
- 21:10Speaker 1: against you know, Jadavian Clowney and Whitney Merciless and J. J. Watt.
- 21:14Speaker 1: I just don't get the sense that this one's gonna
- 21:16Speaker 1: be a clubbing. I don't get the sense that they're
- 21:18Speaker 1: gonna be laying there getting killed. No, but up I
- 21:21Speaker 1: mean I'm not talking about upset win. I'm just jag
- 21:23Speaker 1: Wars win would be a upset. I mean, it wouldn't
- 21:28Speaker 1: go down in the annals because they're out of it,
- 21:29Speaker 1: but it would be an unbelievable upset. Right. But you know,
- 21:33Speaker 1: on the road against this team with this pass rush,
- 21:36Speaker 1: it's the pass rush that will tilt this heavily in
- 21:39Speaker 1: their direction. I'm not talking about upset or winning. I'm
- 21:41Speaker 1: talking about the Jaguars defense being able to keep it
- 21:44Speaker 1: from being at seven blowout, right, I'm talking about them
- 21:48Speaker 1: making a game of it for the second half, because
- 21:51Speaker 1: you've covered enough of these at the end of the
- 21:53Speaker 1: season where you know on both sides of it, where
- 21:56Speaker 1: one team just owns it and it's over quickly. Yeah,
- 21:58Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen players give up seven sacks in
- 22:01Speaker 1: a game situation um which I expected to be one sided. Frankly,
- 22:08Speaker 1: you know, I think the home field pursuit, the divisional
- 22:13Speaker 1: playoff carrot, plus the fact that there's so many offensive
- 22:17Speaker 1: lineman down the Jaguars, I think it's gonna tilted heavily
- 22:19Speaker 1: in the Texans favor. Um. What you hope people will
- 22:25Speaker 1: look at is the overall last five games this season,
- 22:30Speaker 1: once the season was basically done. This team had a
- 22:33Speaker 1: shutout victory. They had a very good defense formance against
- 22:37Speaker 1: the Redskins. They beat the Dolphins, which they really shouldn't
- 22:41Speaker 1: have done if you looked on paper, you know what
- 22:43Speaker 1: with our theory that you don't. So they beat two
- 22:45Speaker 1: contending playoff teams out of the last five. The effort
- 22:50Speaker 1: overall has been there. I since it may look on
- 22:55Speaker 1: Sunday like it wasn't because of the huge mismatch on
- 22:59Speaker 1: that defensive line. Right, We'll see where it goes. They
- 23:01Speaker 1: they won twenty seven when they were here, and they
- 23:04Speaker 1: had one real strong offensive drive. The rest of it
- 23:07Speaker 1: was more misc used and inetness on the Jaguars offensive side.
- 23:11Speaker 1: Yeah that was Blake's f Yeah. I think that this
- 23:13Speaker 1: looks more to me like four team kind of game.
- 23:17Speaker 1: It may feel like they're in control completely. I don't
- 23:20Speaker 1: see the clubbing. I don't I don't see it. I
- 23:24Speaker 1: don't see that. I didn't say see him winning though, No,
- 23:27Speaker 1: none of that big thing too. Momentum. Can they carry
- 23:31Speaker 1: any over from last week's win in Miami? I think yes,
- 23:34Speaker 1: especially with the defensive performance they show that they cared
- 23:38Speaker 1: last week. I think if they would have lost Miami
- 23:40Speaker 1: would have tough motivation this week. But with the win
- 23:43Speaker 1: in Miami, especially the defensive efforts, I think momentum keeps
- 23:46Speaker 1: going this week well. And then the larger question, Ashlyn
- 23:49Speaker 1: is you know, did they have anything if they play
- 23:53Speaker 1: well right, if they show well of themselves in Houston,
- 23:57Speaker 1: you know, is there anything that this team can carry
- 24:00Speaker 1: warward into the off season? And truthfully, the answer to
- 24:02Speaker 1: me is noel Um, you you want to get this
- 24:06Speaker 1: out of the way. You want to get the bad
- 24:08Speaker 1: taste of this season. You don't want anything without it.
- 24:12Speaker 1: There are so many big questions. Whether it's quarterback, I
- 24:14Speaker 1: think you're running back. It's a massive question because the
- 24:17Speaker 1: number four overall pick in his second season was a
- 24:20Speaker 1: non factor almost the entire way. Um, the injuries up front,
- 24:27Speaker 1: and with that we include the tight end and the
- 24:29Speaker 1: wide receiver, the the lack of of a cohesive, competent offense. UM.
- 24:36Speaker 1: No you you you break this thing down. And and
- 24:39Speaker 1: one of the reasons why momentum doesn't really factor. You
- 24:41Speaker 1: get a new offensive coordinator, UM to some degree, not
- 24:45Speaker 1: sure what you're going to have, a different quarterback room, Um,
- 24:49Speaker 1: you're goet have different guys on defense. So I'm not
- 24:51Speaker 1: sure momentum factors much into the bigger picture. There won't
- 24:54Speaker 1: be a momentum from this game per se, because that
- 24:58Speaker 1: really doesn't exist. But I do think they're I don't
- 25:02Speaker 1: know if the word is momentum or carry over. I
- 25:06Speaker 1: do think the defense has shown in the last five
- 25:09Speaker 1: or six games that it can be something that carries over.
- 25:16Speaker 1: It can carry over a good defense in the next year.
- 25:20Speaker 1: For that seven game losing streak. It was easy to
- 25:23Speaker 1: say you weren't sure. Um but I don't think Malik
- 25:27Speaker 1: is going to be back. I don't think. I mean,
- 25:28Speaker 1: obviously Bury Church isn't gonna be back, but um so,
- 25:32Speaker 1: the parts that are playing defense right now, most of
- 25:36Speaker 1: those parts will be back. Uh, You're gonna lose, you know,
- 25:40Speaker 1: I'm Lee Jackson is not really except in passing situation
- 25:44Speaker 1: isn't starting. You might lose to Sean Gibson, or you
- 25:47Speaker 1: might lose one of the defensive lineman. But for the
- 25:50Speaker 1: most part, this group is gonna be back. Um So,
- 25:54Speaker 1: I think there's a confidence that that dynamic can carry forward,
- 25:57Speaker 1: whether that's momentum or not. I think the last five
- 26:00Speaker 1: game momentum can carry it a little bit over to
- 26:04Speaker 1: show this front office that this defense is still good.
- 26:07Speaker 1: A big thing. Three is finale, the last game of
- 26:10Speaker 1: the two eighteen regular season. This is it Monday. They
- 26:13Speaker 1: clean out the lockers and they go home. I meant
- 26:15Speaker 1: to ask done Rown this question, but it's an emotional
- 26:18Speaker 1: for coaches. I wonder because some players mentioned it in
- 26:21Speaker 1: the locker room that they want to take advantage of
- 26:22Speaker 1: this being the last time that this team goes out
- 26:24Speaker 1: on the field together. There's no questions emotional for coaches.
- 26:27Speaker 1: He may not admitted emotion, he might out he would
- 26:29Speaker 1: have shed real tears during the answer, but there is
- 26:32Speaker 1: an emotion with it. Um. Yeah, it's there's always the element,
- 26:39Speaker 1: no matter how good or bad you are, that you're
- 26:41Speaker 1: playing with this group of guys for the last time.
- 26:43Speaker 1: And it's not just one or two like in the
- 26:46Speaker 1: old days in the seventies used to have a turnover
- 26:48Speaker 1: three or four people on a team. Now it's realistically
- 26:52Speaker 1: you're changing at least fifteen guys, even if you're a
- 26:54Speaker 1: good time to the team. Yeah, and uh, for this team,
- 26:58Speaker 1: there will be key pieces. You know, Lee Jackson on
- 27:02Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour and we basically we were staying goodbye
- 27:06Speaker 1: to him, you know, And there's that element because he's
- 27:08Speaker 1: not gonna be back. Uh. So there's certainly that element
- 27:11Speaker 1: of those guys. Uh. As as oddly as this season
- 27:15Speaker 1: turned out, Um, there are guys who won't be here,
- 27:19Speaker 1: who have put memories together and had some of the
- 27:23Speaker 1: best days of their NFL lives together. So there will
- 27:27Speaker 1: be emotion for these guys. And from the time these
- 27:29Speaker 1: guys show up and they are you know, cloistered in
- 27:32Speaker 1: a hotel at training camp through the end of the season.
- 27:34Speaker 1: They spend more time together than they do with their families.
- 27:38Speaker 1: You know, they are here early in the morning, they
- 27:40Speaker 1: are here late at night. There here on holidays. Uh,
- 27:44Speaker 1: they traveled together. You spend so much time you can't
- 27:47Speaker 1: help even when it's bad, forming bonds between players coaches.
- 27:51Speaker 1: You know, we have relationships, all of us do with
- 27:53Speaker 1: guys on both sides of this hallway. Um, so yeah,
- 27:56Speaker 1: it is okay. So two thousand eighteen comes to a
- 27:58Speaker 1: close and you're from how you'll look back aten and say, well,
- 28:01Speaker 1: what a disappointment, and but you look at the people,
- 28:04Speaker 1: the relationships, and you think, yeah, there's some good people there.
- 28:07Speaker 1: So yeah, there's some emotion that that comes into apply
- 28:10Speaker 1: that question for sure. All right, oh, we're done with
- 28:13Speaker 1: big things. When we come back. Will do he will?
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- 29:58Speaker 1: A all right. Welcome back. Final Friday of the two
- 30:08Speaker 1: thousand eighteen season for the Jags. Final Friday broadcast for
- 30:12Speaker 1: US Brian Ashlyn, John mad Max in the other room
- 30:15Speaker 1: and sadly no song from Joe. But he's got a
- 30:18Speaker 1: big smile on his face. He's enjoying the conversation. He'd
- 30:21Speaker 1: sing along right now if we started that. This isn't
- 30:23Speaker 1: Joe's song day? Back off, Jack? Why is it in
- 30:27Speaker 1: the day he does sing? Why should I back off?
- 30:30Speaker 1: Because leave the man alone? When do you ever back off?
- 30:34Speaker 1: If you not hi Joe? Or we like to say,
- 30:40Speaker 1: hey Joe, do you have the music handy? You're gonna
- 30:44Speaker 1: make him sing right now? He's not gonna make him
- 30:46Speaker 1: play his music. Joe should be our, it should be
- 30:53Speaker 1: my He will he won't. He might, Guy, go for it,
- 30:58Speaker 1: Joe smiling talk on camera if you turn it on?
- 31:01Speaker 1: Uh right, I mean if you turn the camera on,
- 31:05Speaker 1: he will engage with you in the audience, because that's
- 31:09Speaker 1: what he does. He might take you right now. Yeah,
- 31:13Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't say that like it can happen.
- 31:17Speaker 1: Joe won't. What won't Joe do? Not much? Joe won't
- 31:25Speaker 1: be here past two o'clock. Oh oh, that's a Sean
- 31:30Speaker 1: paying attention. Joe might be having chicken for dinner this evening.
- 31:34Speaker 1: Chicken's good. I like chicken. Joe eats chicken on Friday
- 31:38Speaker 1: all the time. Friday's Chicken Chicken guy. Joe might have
- 31:43Speaker 1: text Max on Saturday night in Houston. We should start
- 31:47Speaker 1: calling him chicken jet there. This is what we call
- 31:53Speaker 1: five and ten. Joe might turn off the microphone and
- 31:58Speaker 1: just ignore us. All right, Joe, do you have it?
- 32:01Speaker 1: You haven't. We haven't included you in this segment. Do
- 32:03Speaker 1: you have a He will? He won't, he might? I
- 32:06Speaker 1: do Okay, what is it? Why he will? He won't?
- 32:09Speaker 1: He might? Is you? Oh no? It turned the microphone off? Goodbye,
- 32:14Speaker 1: see you later. Yeah, he knew I'd go there. Joe
- 32:17Speaker 1: might be really smart. All right, we'll start down all
- 32:20Speaker 1: right with John and he took Jalen Ramsey as his
- 32:24Speaker 1: guy this week. Well, he will have bruises here, here,
- 32:30Speaker 1: and here on Sundays. He's gonna get pushed off a lot,
- 32:34Speaker 1: as DeAndre Hopkins m O Jenner. Hopkins is a great receiver,
- 32:38Speaker 1: but he gets away with more pushing on the top
- 32:40Speaker 1: of his route than anybody I've seen since Michael Irvan.
- 32:43Speaker 1: So Jalen has to deal with that. It's it's a
- 32:47Speaker 1: well planned strategy bound by Deander Hopkins. Who called for
- 32:51Speaker 1: it a couple of times. He'll do it almost every
- 32:54Speaker 1: time he does it and not get called on a lot. Uh.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Jalen won't let it bother him. Uh. He matches is
- 33:00Speaker 1: up exceedingly well against Hopkins because of his side, because
- 33:03Speaker 1: of his length. We all saw the game two years ago.
- 33:06Speaker 1: It was really Jalen's coming out party. Um and Uh,
- 33:12Speaker 1: I guess, just to sort of hammer on a theme,
- 33:14Speaker 1: he might be the most impressive optimistic story on this
- 33:18Speaker 1: team in the last month. And I know we've harped
- 33:21Speaker 1: on it a lot. People who have watched this show
- 33:22Speaker 1: are tired of hearing about it. He has changed dramatically
- 33:26Speaker 1: since mid season and you're one of the first people
- 33:28Speaker 1: to realize it. Um. I think people who are watching
- 33:33Speaker 1: closely are starting to see what we're talking about. That
- 33:37Speaker 1: he's not uh two point oh from this summer if
- 33:42Speaker 1: you follow me from the game in India right. So Uh,
- 33:47Speaker 1: he's gotta keep it up. Uh. It matters to him.
- 33:51Speaker 1: He is working very hard to be the complete player,
- 33:56Speaker 1: team leader on off the field. Guy doesn't come easy
- 33:59Speaker 1: to him. He's still young, but a remarkable turnaround. And Uh, again,
- 34:04Speaker 1: for people who don't think that he's the cornerstone dead wrong. Um.
- 34:08Speaker 1: I don't know what the story from him will be
- 34:11Speaker 1: next summer. This summer was obviously the g Q story
- 34:13Speaker 1: and the brashness. Um. I suspect it will be something
- 34:16Speaker 1: about how many guys went to Tennessee to work out
- 34:19Speaker 1: with him and his dad, or something to do with
- 34:22Speaker 1: Jalen the family man, because yesterday we talked. We asked
- 34:25Speaker 1: him about Christmas and and he talked about his daughter
- 34:28Speaker 1: and Brie, and I mean it was just I'm telling you,
- 34:31Speaker 1: I was right on on this one, um, And I'm
- 34:34Speaker 1: glad that I don't. I don't, but he carried through
- 34:39Speaker 1: the rest of the season. So I'm proud of him
- 34:41Speaker 1: for the way that he evolved into that leader in
- 34:45Speaker 1: the locker room. Because the leader isn't just the guy
- 34:47Speaker 1: that says something to everyone else. He's the guy that
- 34:50Speaker 1: stands up and represents the team and part of it
- 34:52Speaker 1: in a very strong fashion. Post Indeed, part of the
- 34:56Speaker 1: story has to include Max Hackman, because Jalen is Jalen
- 35:00Speaker 1: without Max. I think we all know that I was
- 35:03Speaker 1: walking out that might be a little I was walking
- 35:07Speaker 1: out the stadium yesterday and Jaleen was out there and
- 35:09Speaker 1: he looked at me and goes, I saw the video
- 35:10Speaker 1: with Max, I love it. I was like, yeah, you know,
- 35:13Speaker 1: Max pretended like he didn't like it, but he retweeted
- 35:15Speaker 1: and favored it and loved it. There is no I
- 35:18Speaker 1: would say this because I was holding the microphone that
- 35:21Speaker 1: Jalen was was commenting about, and the smile on his face. Now,
- 35:26Speaker 1: there are guys back there that don't like it at all,
- 35:29Speaker 1: or me. No one's following you around with the microphone,
- 35:33Speaker 1: but he was. He genuinely was enjoying the interaction with Max. Max.
- 35:37Speaker 1: Do you have that handic? Max is yelling in my ear.
- 35:39Speaker 1: Please stop, stop the attention. Can you call it up, Max,
- 35:43Speaker 1: because we might just sit here quietly until you do.
- 35:45Speaker 1: Max says no, he can't bring it up, all right?
- 35:47Speaker 1: Will you find it and get a wire? One more
- 35:52Speaker 1: thing on on on the Jalen and you talked about
- 35:54Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. I thought about this yesterday when Andre Johnson
- 35:58Speaker 1: retired and he is the alt I'm great Texans wide
- 36:02Speaker 1: receiver and he used to torch the jack bars. I thought,
- 36:06Speaker 1: thank goodness, the Hopkins kid can't be as good as
- 36:09Speaker 1: dere as Andre Johnson is. Oh yeah, yeah, he is.
- 36:13Speaker 1: I would say better. H John is a great player,
- 36:16Speaker 1: but he's equal, and we turn it over to you.
- 36:21Speaker 1: He will, he won't. He might is Leonard for next
- 36:24Speaker 1: He will be a disappointment in two thousand eighteen. No
- 36:26Speaker 1: matter the performance on Sunday, if he plays, he can't
- 36:29Speaker 1: change the narrative of this season with the hamstring and
- 36:32Speaker 1: the off the field issues. When we get asked about
- 36:34Speaker 1: the disappointments of two thou eighteen, Leonard for Nett's name
- 36:37Speaker 1: is right up there. He won't change the narrative this week.
- 36:40Speaker 1: Despite if he goes out and scores four touchdowns, he
- 36:43Speaker 1: can't overcome the issues that we're in two thousand eighteen
- 36:46Speaker 1: with this week. He might change. Someone might get to
- 36:49Speaker 1: him in the offseason and say to be the pro
- 36:52Speaker 1: that he wishes he could be, and don't waste the
- 36:54Speaker 1: talents that he has. A right so you're saying there's hope.
- 36:58Speaker 1: I'm an optimistic so too. Okay, So I'll go with
- 37:02Speaker 1: Blake Boardles because I don't know whether I can go
- 37:04Speaker 1: with him in twenty nineteen or not, So I say
- 37:09Speaker 1: that he will if this is his final game in
- 37:11Speaker 1: a Jaguars uniform, he will acquit of himself. Well, he'll
- 37:15Speaker 1: go out there and play like the Blake Boarders. Now
- 37:17Speaker 1: he's gonna have to he's gonna have to run all
- 37:18Speaker 1: over the place because this offensive line, is we have
- 37:21Speaker 1: chronicled for you all week, is just it's a shambles.
- 37:23Speaker 1: It's it's not an NFL offensive line, and it's going
- 37:27Speaker 1: against maybe the most powerful defensive line in football. But
- 37:30Speaker 1: you saw him last week. First drive in thirteen yards,
- 37:33Speaker 1: scramble fourteen yards, scramble nineteen yards, strike on second and eighteen.
- 37:37Speaker 1: Uh So, I say that he will leave a pleasant
- 37:42Speaker 1: taste in the mouths of Jaguars fans, maybe not with
- 37:45Speaker 1: a win, but with the way that he plays, and
- 37:48Speaker 1: there will be an appreciation for the kind of player
- 37:50Speaker 1: and person that he is. Um On Sunday after the
- 37:55Speaker 1: Houston game, win loser, draw, I think that he will
- 37:59Speaker 1: make people smile. Okay, just leave it at that. He
- 38:03Speaker 1: won't have much time. The offensive mine is not going
- 38:06Speaker 1: to do it for him. He did J. J. Watt.
- 38:08Speaker 1: I was watching him against a good Eagles offensive line
- 38:11Speaker 1: and he was crushing it. And then you've got Clowney,
- 38:13Speaker 1: who's his length, whose height, whose instincts the way that
- 38:17Speaker 1: they use him. I mean, he's going to find the
- 38:19Speaker 1: weak spot and he's going to exploit it. Um, so
- 38:22Speaker 1: he will be you know, he won't be able to
- 38:25Speaker 1: be comfortable. Um, he might keep this game in a
- 38:28Speaker 1: position he might be able to answer here and there
- 38:31Speaker 1: and and have this be in the third quarter a game, right,
- 38:35Speaker 1: and they might not be able to make it feel
- 38:38Speaker 1: as if they're really ever going to get there, but
- 38:40Speaker 1: they won't feel like they're being clubbed over the head
- 38:42Speaker 1: laying there just waiting for their season to end. Um.
- 38:45Speaker 1: But of all of those, I think he will. I'll
- 38:49Speaker 1: miss the kind of person he for sure. Um, if
- 38:53Speaker 1: he's not here, even as the bridge quarterback in twenty
- 38:56Speaker 1: nine agreed there all right, time for pick one and
- 39:00Speaker 1: pick it and John, you've got a big one. Yeah
- 39:05Speaker 1: you don't remember what it is? Okay, Yeah, you've got
- 39:08Speaker 1: the who thought we'd be talking about Browns and Ravens
- 39:12Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Well, and um I
- 39:15Speaker 1: did a reason for picking this, and either I didn't
- 39:17Speaker 1: remember that I picked it. It's uh, this is everybody's
- 39:21Speaker 1: sort of like last Monday. Uh. My brother in law
- 39:27Speaker 1: is a big Steelers fan, and we're sitting around Christmas
- 39:29Speaker 1: Eve our out of it. It's it's over. Don't be
- 39:33Speaker 1: so sure, not so fast, man, um. The Ravens are
- 39:40Speaker 1: not really a team that gets away from you. The
- 39:43Speaker 1: Browns are one of those teams. I think there's seven
- 39:45Speaker 1: seven and one or they're right, you know, seven and one,
- 39:48Speaker 1: which would be an unbelievable game for them or believe
- 39:52Speaker 1: believable season for them. Uh, they're just good enough. And
- 39:57Speaker 1: they're not one of these teams that's playing as if
- 40:00Speaker 1: they're out of it. They're a team's playing with the future.
- 40:02Speaker 1: They have Pep in their steph. The Steelers aren't done.
- 40:07Speaker 1: The Steelers need this game to go the Brown's way.
- 40:11Speaker 1: I don't think it will. But in the battle of
- 40:14Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks much would you take this guy or Lamar
- 40:16Speaker 1: Jack much Weirder things have happened in the NFL than
- 40:20Speaker 1: the Browns winning this game. This guy has he has
- 40:23Speaker 1: grabbed ahold of offensive rookie of the Year now s
- 40:26Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley has the other side of that football. But
- 40:29Speaker 1: he's got a real good grip on it right now.
- 40:31Speaker 1: And who knows, you know when you wouldn't be shocked
- 40:33Speaker 1: at the Browns. I would not I would not. You've
- 40:36Speaker 1: got one. Also do a good one. Colts and titened
- 40:40Speaker 1: Sunday Night football, lose and go home. Winner goes to
- 40:42Speaker 1: the playoffs, Loser goes home. Darius Land are going to
- 40:45Speaker 1: have to try to stop Derrick Henry seven rushing touchdowns
- 40:48Speaker 1: the past three games. He's on fire. Marks Mariota questionable
- 40:52Speaker 1: big factor in that. But I think the Colts are
- 40:54Speaker 1: the more complete team. I think the Colts get it done.
- 40:56Speaker 1: You realize that the Colts have never beaten Andrew left
- 41:00Speaker 1: when he's the starting quarterback. I'm sorry, the Titans have
- 41:02Speaker 1: never beat the Colts when Andrew starting QUARTERBA. Yeah, and
- 41:04Speaker 1: I think that's the overwhelming stat in this. Plus, you
- 41:08Speaker 1: know Blayne Garrett played well last week, but in that situation,
- 41:13Speaker 1: not having a starting quarterback against a team with their
- 41:16Speaker 1: starting quarterback cults of one eight of nine, the only
- 41:19Speaker 1: loss was out here. Yeah. So I'll go with the
- 41:23Speaker 1: Bears at the Vikings. And here's the interesting part. The
- 41:25Speaker 1: Vikings are eight seven and one. Um, if the Bears
- 41:30Speaker 1: beat them and keep them from making the playoffs, they
- 41:33Speaker 1: will have invested four million dollars in Kirk Cousins, the
- 41:37Speaker 1: marquee free agent signing to go significantly backwards. Yeah, yeah,
- 41:40Speaker 1: I mean he had Adam Feelan who was off to
- 41:42Speaker 1: a historic start, and Stefan Diggs and Kyle Rudolph and
- 41:46Speaker 1: a dominant defense with him, and he didn't get it done.
- 41:51Speaker 1: So before you start going to the quarterback card, but
- 41:55Speaker 1: you started. They can go and spend whatever it takes
- 41:57Speaker 1: to get Matthew Stafford from the Lions, Nick Foles from
- 42:00Speaker 1: the Eagles, or Joe Flacco from the Ravens. Understand, Kirk
- 42:04Speaker 1: Cousins is younger and has a strong arm and was
- 42:07Speaker 1: thought to be that guy and went with all those
- 42:09Speaker 1: weapons and that defense and didn't get it done. There's
- 42:12Speaker 1: a chance that they don't. Now there's a chance they
- 42:14Speaker 1: win and get into the playoffs and then you know,
- 42:15Speaker 1: who knows. But even if there, yeah, they were what
- 42:19Speaker 1: they thought they were going to be, right, it did
- 42:21Speaker 1: not have the impact that they believed that. Again, we
- 42:24Speaker 1: always make it always about the quarter come. Sure there
- 42:26Speaker 1: are other factors in that too, but he had a
- 42:29Speaker 1: good year numerically speaking. Numerically speaking, but there are certain
- 42:34Speaker 1: things that were the knock on him going in that
- 42:39Speaker 1: are still the knock on him in terms of winning
- 42:41Speaker 1: in big moments. That was the concern. If they don't
- 42:44Speaker 1: make the playoffs after spending that money on that quarterback,
- 42:46Speaker 1: with everything that was there, that is a really really
- 42:51Speaker 1: unpleasant taste in amounts of Vikings fans. All right, there
- 42:54Speaker 1: you have it. When we come back, we'll take our lumps,
- 42:57Speaker 1: and I'll take my lumps in fantasy football. Yeah, I
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- 44:56Speaker 1: why I love traffic traffics great, h Um, he will,
- 45:00Speaker 1: he won't? He might? For the final time. Sure, this
- 45:03Speaker 1: is hard. I was listening to all you guys. You
- 45:06Speaker 1: had some pretty good ones. Um, I'll go with Keelan Cole.
- 45:10Speaker 1: How about that, I'll say, he will. I'll ultimately go
- 45:13Speaker 1: down like Leonard four nett As one of the more
- 45:16Speaker 1: disappointing players of the season. I think based on what
- 45:19Speaker 1: everyone with the organization was telling you, the step they
- 45:22Speaker 1: expected him to take forward this year that he clearly didn't. Uh.
- 45:26Speaker 1: He will go down as that he won't be guaranteed
- 45:30Speaker 1: a roster spot, despite the fact that he's an undrafted
- 45:33Speaker 1: rookie free agent last year that is on a very
- 45:36Speaker 1: affordable contract. You gotta be able to catch the football, obviously,
- 45:40Speaker 1: that's a big part. He'll have a chance, I think,
- 45:42Speaker 1: and he might have multiple more chances because his speed
- 45:46Speaker 1: is something that's covered in the NFL. You gotta catch
- 45:48Speaker 1: a football ultimately to be a good receiver. But speed.
- 45:51Speaker 1: We saw Alvis wood aget how many years of opportunities
- 45:54Speaker 1: at year after year after year. They'll find a way
- 45:55Speaker 1: to utilize your speed. Uh, and some coach will think
- 45:59Speaker 1: they can teachmatch football. He's got to earn his way
- 46:02Speaker 1: back around here. You're exactly right. Yeah, it's hin. He'll
- 46:05Speaker 1: get a shot here. I think so. I think so too,
- 46:07Speaker 1: But he's not guaranteed to be on the team. I
- 46:09Speaker 1: don't think he's gotta you know, impress next song. It
- 46:13Speaker 1: was the Texans game where his demise began, where he
- 46:16Speaker 1: dropped those two third down conversion opportunities on the first
- 46:19Speaker 1: two drives when the game was still very much there
- 46:22Speaker 1: for him, and then the Texans ran away with it.
- 46:24Speaker 1: And then of course the next weekend in London at
- 46:26Speaker 1: the end of the first half with that drop on
- 46:28Speaker 1: third down that we also had to fumble against Dallas late.
- 46:32Speaker 1: It wasn't it was a close three game stretch the game,
- 46:35Speaker 1: but uh yeah, the game started looking too big for
- 46:38Speaker 1: him at that point, which bumble against Philly, you know,
- 46:41Speaker 1: and the way that the way that his two thousand
- 46:43Speaker 1: seventeen ended, there was no reason and and the way
- 46:46Speaker 1: he worked in the off season, there was no reason
- 46:47Speaker 1: to believe that he wasn't going to take that step,
- 46:50Speaker 1: and yet he didn't. Um, okay, so you win, thanks
- 46:54Speaker 1: for joining us. How close did John come? He did
- 46:58Speaker 1: very well. I mean, had had we had a few
- 47:01Speaker 1: more weeks in the season or you know, we sound
- 47:02Speaker 1: like a little league coach. He did pretty close. I think.
- 47:08Speaker 1: You know, we've had weeks where probably one of us
- 47:12Speaker 1: has outscored another by forty points, so I mean, it
- 47:15Speaker 1: wasn't that far apart. John dug himself a hole early
- 47:18Speaker 1: in the season, and then he got. It was fun because,
- 47:21Speaker 1: much like Jeff Logman has over the last few years,
- 47:24Speaker 1: Sehn actually started to care and try and he's like, hey,
- 47:28Speaker 1: this is kind of fun, and so he would grind
- 47:30Speaker 1: on it a little bit more. So he had fun
- 47:32Speaker 1: with that. And Ashland, you'll be happy to know. I
- 47:35Speaker 1: know you already do know this, but you held off
- 47:37Speaker 1: Brian Sexton. That's my only goal. The whole Melvin Gordon
- 47:41Speaker 1: debacle will be memorialized. Picking him in back to back
- 47:46Speaker 1: weeks and it costs about twenty points. And Ashland ended
- 47:50Speaker 1: up beating you. Okay, so that cost me third place.
- 47:56Speaker 1: But I think that the bigger problem for me was
- 47:58Speaker 1: that I saved Drew brees Is all season long, you know,
- 48:02Speaker 1: thinking I'm gonna pull him out against a division rival
- 48:05Speaker 1: on Monday Night football and he throws from yards. I
- 48:08Speaker 1: mean the week I choose Breeze, he doesn't know that
- 48:11Speaker 1: that's format. Barkley had been a big performer the week
- 48:15Speaker 1: I save him. Yeah, Barkley, Cincodell Beckham has been hurt,
- 48:19Speaker 1: has been shut down by a couple of teams. But
- 48:21Speaker 1: it is fun and it's you know, you can have
- 48:24Speaker 1: everything nailed and if your guy just doesn't perform that
- 48:27Speaker 1: one week, that's it. You know, you pick Christoph McCaffrey
- 48:29Speaker 1: in the wrong week, you're you're sad because he was
- 48:31Speaker 1: great pretty much all season long. I have a fantasy
- 48:34Speaker 1: question for the fantasy group. Is this Uh? I wasn't
- 48:38Speaker 1: worried you were asking me? Is this format? Um? Do
- 48:43Speaker 1: you like it better than like your career leagues where
- 48:47Speaker 1: you lock onto a guy for thirteen years? I like
- 48:49Speaker 1: them all. It's honestly, they're like your children, you know,
- 48:52Speaker 1: when you're this obsessed with it, like I am. I
- 48:55Speaker 1: play in four of these type leagues. Uh. You know,
- 48:58Speaker 1: every week, which is fun because drafting is one of
- 49:00Speaker 1: the big most exciting things about fantasy football and gives
- 49:03Speaker 1: you an opportunity to do that every single week. And uh, I,
- 49:06Speaker 1: so I enjoy that. I enjoy the ones that the
- 49:09Speaker 1: dynasty leagues where you keep all your players year after year,
- 49:12Speaker 1: and all the other ones in between. So like them all.
- 49:15Speaker 1: Which one is your absolute the one you want to
- 49:18Speaker 1: win more than because you do keep those players for
- 49:22Speaker 1: literally for years, and you develop a team and you
- 49:25Speaker 1: trade rookie draft picks, and it really feels more like
- 49:28Speaker 1: got you, you know, being a general Managerie Well, as
- 49:30Speaker 1: Bobby Lane used to say, I didn't lose, I just
- 49:33Speaker 1: ran out of tune. That's that's story of all over
- 49:36Speaker 1: a lot. Do you want you won this little league?
- 49:39Speaker 1: How many leagues do you play in? And how many
- 49:40Speaker 1: will you win? Uh? In in terms of like head
- 49:43Speaker 1: to head leagues, like I consider us a head to
- 49:45Speaker 1: head league because we go against each other every single week. Um,
- 49:48Speaker 1: I was in twenty of those four of this style,
- 49:52Speaker 1: so it's only starting. You're in many more than that. Well, yeah, yeah,
- 49:55Speaker 1: I've won five of those with another one still pending,
- 49:58Speaker 1: a six to one pending. I'm on the or dog
- 50:00Speaker 1: going into last week. But then I'm in about a
- 50:02Speaker 1: hundred forty five leagues where you just draft them and
- 50:06Speaker 1: you never have to mess with them again. You draft,
- 50:08Speaker 1: we draft. I drafted back as far as back is
- 50:12Speaker 1: pretty much have every player in some league or another.
- 50:15Speaker 1: Not everyone, but close enough. Yeah. My my wife always
- 50:18Speaker 1: asked me who do you want to win? And I
- 50:19Speaker 1: always just look at her and say me, you know,
- 50:21Speaker 1: I really other than the Jags don't care, but you're
- 50:25Speaker 1: bit as I recall, we do another show together. Um,
- 50:29Speaker 1: your big Jaguars pick this year didn't work out right,
- 50:33Speaker 1: the Dante. But the in that format what it was
- 50:38Speaker 1: in those leagues where you draft a team and then
- 50:40Speaker 1: you don't touch it the whole season. You automatically get
- 50:43Speaker 1: your best players every single week. And I was taking
- 50:45Speaker 1: Dante montcreave th as in. You know, so in the
- 50:51Speaker 1: a format like that, you automatically get the best performances.
- 50:54Speaker 1: You don't have to pick one to start him. He
- 50:55Speaker 1: actually did probably return his value. You know, if you
- 50:58Speaker 1: get in your lineup four or five times over the
- 51:01Speaker 1: course of the season, it pays off, all right, more
- 51:04Speaker 1: than you wanted to enjoyed it. Thanks you, I appreciate
- 51:07Speaker 1: thanks for doing this. Thank you. All right, We're done
- 51:09Speaker 1: on a Friday with Jags Drive Time. We'll be back Monday,
- 51:12Speaker 1: John and Ashlyn will be and then the three of
- 51:14Speaker 1: us will be here next Wednesday to wrap up our
- 51:16Speaker 1: broadcast season. Thanks so much for enjoying the morning with us.
- 51:21Speaker 1: See you next week.