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- 0:44One of my favourite rounds has been all about strawberries.
- 0:46Here's a question about strawberries.
- 0:48In which country was the garden of strawberry first spread in the 1750s?
- 0:54Hello and welcome to the Sheppartonian.
- 0:56The answer to that question, by the way, will come at the end of this episode.
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- 1:45Now.
- 1:46Water Splash Road, Shepperton.
- 1:48A Thursday afternoon and the Barley Mow is doing what pubs do on a Thursday afternoon.
- 1:54By 8 o' clock, there'll be 70 people in here and not a spare chair in the building.
- 1:59I went to meet Martin Pither, who's run the quiz here for five years.
- 2:03I didn't expect it to last, so part of our ritual, some close friends of ours, we used to come every Thursday and sadly the previous quiz master, Brian, was unwell and he had a bad back so he couldn't
- 2:15continue.
- 2:16And we mentioned it to John how much we missed the quiz.
- 2:20And because I was involved with reviews of work to do with quizzes in my technical job as a British Airways trainer, I said, I'll take it on and he was really grateful and it all went from there.
- 2:33And that was five years ago.
- 2:35The scene is we have the regulars in before they had their evening meal and people start to arrive.
- 2:41The pub has a no booking policy, so it's very inclusive, first come, first served.
- 2:46So we have a capacity around about 70 people.
- 2:50So people come from places like Egham and Sumbro and meet family and friends.
- 2:56And I'm actually checking the questions.
- 2:59There's a number of challenges with certain questions.
- 3:02So at 7 o' clock, I'm in the next road, Squires Bridge Road.
- 3:06Check in to make sure future quizzes are okay.
- 3:09I've never done a quiz without at least two or three people checking.
- 3:13I have my father in law in Devon who's retired chemistry graduate and he thoroughly enjoys it and he's very direct with his feedback.
- 3:22I provide references through AI, but you've got to be careful with AI.
- 3:26So as many references I can.
- 3:28I have another school teacher who lives in Leyland, so I meet with her monthly and she gives me some feedback about making it short and snappy, not too complicated.
- 3:40Then I have two tax inspectors who live locally who have revised every single question and they're not really into music as such and they're quite brilliant, brutal with the feedback, if it's not good quality.
- 3:52So the atmosphere builds and then I come in at 8 o' clock and it all starts from there.
- 3:58Basically.
- 3:59The door goes and goes again.
- 4:01Coats over the backs of chairs, sheets down on tables, and at the top of every sheet a name that somebody thought was funny in the car on the way over.
- 4:09I've been very clear, I will not have rude names.
- 4:12And I check with people, are you okay?
- 4:14And if I've ever mentioned one, they ask me not to say it.
- 4:17So we, we have things like Mangel Wurzels, we have people that are called like the Brain Foggers, Wallace and Gromit, the Joneses over a favorite TV program.
- 4:29But yeah, 71 teams all with different names.
- 4:32Last year I kept stats and I couldn't believe we had over 440 people attend.
- 4:39Can you imagine if they all tended up for one night and that was nearly 70 teams.
- 4:44Some people would be here one week, wouldn't see them again or they were doing the Thames Path and just come in occasionally.
- 4:52We have a very open door policy, so we've got a few people.
- 4:55We've got a guy who won 125,000 millionaire.
- 4:58He was on his own, but he found a team very quickly.
- 5:02As you can imagine, there's other people that attend other nights like Jazz night or the music rounds are looking for an evening.
- 5:11I try and get people to go to other teams if at all possible.
- 5:15Don't anyone to feel lonely.
- 5:17I always say hello, I always ask, everyone's here, are you attending the quiz?
- 5:21No pressure.
- 5:22If not, there's a few teams that are very welcome for new players, which is lovely.
- 5:26Eight o', clock, pens down the table, phones face down and out of sight.
- 5:30And a room full of people who came here to be told they are cleverer than the table next to them.
- 5:36I do different rounds.
- 5:37I'm not a branded corporate, so they are different rounds which I create myself based on interest.
- 5:44So we've got 14 rounds we choose from and they're all different and that spreads over the months.
- 5:49We'll pick a country like tonight we do Armenia or we do a county or we do A true or false, there's variations, it's never the same and I quite enjoy producing those because it makes us a little bit
- 6:02unique.
- 6:03We've made a change where we have three separate prizes.
- 6:05Now we do the picture round, which gets 1500 hits on the Barneymo website.
- 6:10We do that separately as a prize.
- 6:13If we do music clips, which we do twice a month, we do that as a separate prize and then we have a separate prize for general knowledge.
- 6:19And now what we're finding a lot more people have a chance of winning.
- 6:24There's people like Big Dave, as we call him, and Nikki and Sam, they're tremendous on the music.
- 6:30They really enjoyed having diverse rounds.
- 6:33So you can't please everyone, but I try and tap into what people are interested in.
- 6:38Halfway the sheets come in, the numbers go up and the room does the arithmetic.
- 6:43It's been quietly doing all night.
- 6:45Somewhere in here, a table is two points down and has decided that it's somebody's fault.
- 6:50But you have got people from 18 to 84 here with all different interests.
- 6:56And I find that with music, we one team, they're all heavy metal people that never watch tv.
- 7:01So if I do a TV question, they're totally against me straight away and they.
- 7:07When I say a music round, they say, when's the music round?
- 7:10After I've done it, because they're expecting heavy rock.
- 7:13Obviously, the pub puts a quiz on.
- 7:16So the prices has worked really well because I can give out the cash prizes quite early.
- 7:20And obviously we're hoping that people will celebrate their win with a drink behind the bar.
- 7:25You know, it is a commercial organization.
- 7:27Some people forget that.
- 7:28So I do have the customer to worry about in the pub, so.
- 7:31So we try and do some drink prizes as well.
- 7:34And by spreading the prizes, people have got some cash and then hopefully celebrate their success.
- 8:26Every quiz has one.
- 8:27The answer the room will not have.
- 8:30It doesn't matter how carefully you wrote it or how many people checked it before you read it out, there's always one.
- 8:36And there is only ever one person standing at the front.
- 8:39There's been some terrible nights, all recorded in the book.
- 8:43The worst one I had.
- 8:44I thought I was being close.
- 8:46Clever.
- 8:46I did a theme round on the TV quiz show Bullseye that had 20 million people.
- 8:52But in the pub, only a few people had ever seen it.
- 8:55And some people said you downgraded the quiz, focusing on darts.
- 8:58How dare you.
- 9:00And the feedback on Facebook was brutal.
- 9:02And it was a very lonely night that, because I thoroughly enjoyed.
- 9:05It's one of my favorite programs.
- 9:06I thoroughly enjoyed producing it, but went down like a lead balloon.
- 9:11Absolutely shocking.
- 9:13People don't really like change and I have introduced a lot of changes and they're very vocal if they don't like the changes.
- 9:20And I've just got to take it on the chin.
- 9:22But I've got to remember they're the customers and they're the ones that we need to keep coming back.
- 9:27There's been some terrible questions.
- 9:29I'll never forget Labrador and Retriever.
- 9:31Is there a difference?
- 9:34Someone thought they knew the answer.
- 9:36We haven't seen the 80 since because I went against her answer and she was very upset.
- 9:42And there's been other ones.
- 9:43Picture rounds on the Internet are wrong, particularly motorbikes tend to be a bit dodgy on the Internet and we've got a guy who sells them for a living and he's been very vocal about me getting that wrong.
- 9:55Everyone's got their own speciality.
- 9:56I don't know everything in good faith, I try and take things so once it's all agreed, I'm quite happy.
- 10:05And I always come with references.
- 10:07And the guys down here get a bit frustrated because I said I've got a screenshot with the answer.
- 10:11But unless David Attenborough says it's true, everyone has a different opinion.
- 10:17Because what people say, they don't want to be embarrassed, they want to come up with an answer and they're embarrassed in front of their family and friends and that can happen.
- 10:25And I'm normally the bad guy.
- 10:26And if you read the book, you see, I don't always get it right.
- 10:29I'm human like the rest of them.
- 10:31But what's amazing is people go away.
- 10:33And especially a few years ago I used to get emails.
- 10:36Three in the morning, someone's put up an answer, they've got it wrong, they come second or they came third and they've gone away.
- 10:44And my ex father in law set questions on Mastermind and his brief was because he was a saxophone and clarinet paper player.
- 10:52People will check to their dying days that they were right.
- 10:55So you had to provide so many different references.
- 10:58And that's what I try and do.
- 10:59I try and have a reference in.
- 11:01In good faith.
- 11:01Yeah.
- 11:02And when I go around and collect the scores, I just show them what my reference is.
- 11:06Final round and whatever else is going on in this room, the man reading the questions is doing it on his own.
- 11:1370 people, one microphone, nowhere to look.
- 11:17When they do a bad round.
- 11:18And in the book I've got all the scores of the team.
- 11:20It's always My fault.
- 11:21So I always say, sorry, it's my fault.
- 11:23Yeah, maybe next time.
- 11:25And then I was fascinated by the behavior, people arguing, people walking out, the emails I used to receive.
- 11:31I've upset absolutely everyone, I can assure you, because I've got at least one question wrong that they believe to be right.
- 11:40And it was quite lonely and I felt people need to know all the effort that goes into it.
- 11:45It can be quite lonely when you get it wrong.
- 11:47There's 60, 70 people against you and you've got nowhere to go.
- 11:51And this is even my wife, who's probably on the worst bit People.
- 11:54And I get a lecture from her when I get home.
- 11:56Half 11 chairs go up on the tables, the last coats come off the back of the chairs, and by the morning, this is a pub again.
- 12:03It really hit home to me when I stopped doing the picture rounds.
- 12:06On the Facebook page, where we have 2,100 followers, I had emails from Ireland, Australia, France, and we do them, expats do them, and I don't know how.
- 12:18And then people put feedback saying, this is what our families do together.
- 12:24There's a lot of brothers and sisters that come along, there's mothers and sons, there's fathers and daughters as well.
- 12:31It's a real family feel and it really does bind the community.
- 12:35And I thought, there's a story here to be told.
- 12:39It's a year in life of a pub quiz and I recorded everything and I spoke to everyone and I decided to take a picture of the teams as well.
- 12:48I got their permission.
- 12:49There was a couple of people said it wasn't really appropriate to have our pick to take them for whatever reason, but I wanted to capture the community spirit, the love of winning and how it was so diverse, people
- 13:02together just enjoying their Thursday nights.
- 13:05So the book contains over 60 pictures of all the participants and that's something I'm really proud about.
- 13:13And the feedback so far on Amazon, people really enjoyed that part because it makes it come alive.
- 13:18These are real people.
- 13:20I was insistent the answers were at the bottom.
- 13:22So if you're doing it in a family, if you're doing on a campsite, which people have been doing, doing at Christmas, the person who's posing questions has the answers underneath.
- 13:33Only one person was 84 and I played tendency to have a problem with that.
- 13:37The rest of the people have appreciated it.
- 13:40Where you have the answers in front of you don't have to search upside down on the next page or two pages on or halfway through the book or the back.
- 13:49That's one thing that really irritates me with quiz books and crosswords, trying to find the answer.
- 13:55Locally, it's available at Shepperton Post Office and thank you if you bought it because we sold seven there, which is lovely.
- 14:00It's down at the Ferry Caf in Shepparton.
- 14:05It's also hopefully going to be in knock cuts in the next couple of weeks in Lelham.
- 14:10Just checking.
- 14:11Today it's available in about 50 countries through social media, places like Taiwan and Romania, and that's quite fascinating to see how that works.
- 14:22But really the power of community is quite incredible.
- 14:25And one.
- 14:26One lady said to me, Hassan doesn't really like to go out, but he's really good at quizzes.
- 14:32This is one place he does go and they go quite quickly.
- 14:36He doesn't really like crowds, apparently, but they're really good and they can be in the top three if they work really hard.
- 14:42And people say to me, it's a great night.
- 14:44And when I've seen people say, I really look forward to that Thursday for the loyalty to have on average 40, 50 people coming for the last couple of years for other people, pubs have struggled to attract customers.
- 14:55I'm very grateful and I think it's the whole ambience of the pub that helps, though it is a very traditional pub, a very friendly pub.
- 15:03That was Martin Pither, quiz master at the Bali Mow on Watersplash Road where the quiz runs every Thursday at 8 o'.
- 15:10Clock.
- 15:10There's no booking, first come, first serve and the room holds about 70.
- 15:14His book is A Year in the Life of a Pub Quiz.
- 15:18Locally, you'll find it at Shepparton Park Post Office and the Ferry Coffee Shop.
- 15:21And it's online too.
- 15:2371 teams and 440 people through one door in a year.
- 15:28The thing about a weekly fixture is that nobody counts it until it stops.
- 15:33Shepperton has one and it's on this Thursday.
- 15:36Thanks again to the businesses supporting the Sheppartonian through the business Club.
- 15:40Their support keeps this podcast rooted in the community.
- 15:44I'm Gareth.
- 15:45This has been the Sheppartonian.
- 15:47Until next time.
- 15:48I'll see you around.
- 15:49Oh, and the garden.
- 15:51Strawberry.
- 15:52It was Brittany in France, right?
- 15:55Oh,.