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One Piece, 341 & 342 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  This is an unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me, covering One Piece
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  episodes three forty one and three forty two. Nami in Big Trouble, the
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  Zombie Mansion, and the Invisible Man, and Hold On a second, guys,
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  hold On, Give It to Me, Mystery of the Zombies, Hogbacks,
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  Nightmarish Research Laboratory. In these episodes, we get some really fun,
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  classic running around a haunted house kind of antics that I truly love and it's
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  just exactly my vibe, and unfortunately it's punctuated with something truly awful that is
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  the exact opposite of my vibe that I hated with all my parts. Welcome
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  to spoil Me. Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank
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  you very much to the One Piece crew for commissioning this episode. What's up,
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  One Piece crew? How you doing out there? I am starting this
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  super late because of tech problems, So if there are tech problems in this
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  recording, please forgive me. I don't know what my garage band is going
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  to do today, but who knows? This whole like a couple of episodes.
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  I can't remember who it was last week, but somebody called Thriller Bark
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  Scooby Doo Island, and yeah, this is a super Scooby dooish episode.
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  And I mean that in like the best way. I really love, so
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  love this haunted house aesthetic. How classically everything like it's all, you know,
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  a one piece version of a thing. It's all oh to take on
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  whatever trope you've got going on, but it's all falls within that. Like
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  we've literally got naombie wandering up and down dark halways holding a candelabra. The
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  only thing that would have been more hilarious is if she wound up wearing some
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  like long filmy white gauzy dress and you know, was somehow there was like
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  maybe a thunderstorm something to add a little exterior ambiance. But otherwise, we
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  have got ghosts, we have got zombies. We have got paintings that come
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  alive. We have got hunted Jack in the boxes. We have got fireplaces
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  with secret entrances that spin around. We have got once again, hands coming
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  up out of graves. We have it all and I really really enjoyed this.
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  So I am going to just get this out of the way. I'm
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  sure nobody will be surprised at all. But it's interesting because episode three forty
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  one on the one Piece wiki, which I occasionally will go to to just
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  see the title, it says Nami in Big Trouble, whereas in on Funimation
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  the title is Namies in a Major Pinch, And I feel like the Namies
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  in a Major Pinch title feels like a little bit more pointed and euphemistic,
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  and I wish that it just said big Trouble on mine as well. But
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  you guys, we start things off in episode three forty one with Nami taking
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  a shower, which is already a super weird thing. She's taking a shower
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  because she feels like she smells like zombies and doesn't want to anymore, which
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  I understand in theory, but I just feel like that would be so low
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  priority for me in the current circumstances that I cannot emphasize enough how unwilling to
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  get naked I would be in a place like this. But she, of
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  course has to be the one taking the shower. She of course has to
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  be naked for what happens next, and that is getting assaulted by an invisible
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  man who threatens her and tells her how good fear looks on her and how
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  much he likes that while he is holding her pinned to the wall with his
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  hand over her mouth while her friends are outside, and when she asks for
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  help and they come in, the only thing USAP can do is ogle her
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  being naked, and then and then to really put the cherry on top of
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  this rapy Sunday, we have Usop telling her later that he doesn't believe her.
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  I really want that all to sink in, you guys, I really
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  want to back up here, and I want you all to take a second
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  and think about that whole collection of things happening together the way that they do.
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  She just doesn't need to be naked for this whole thing to be creepy
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  and scary. We don't need the fear looks good on you and him like
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  clearly groping her, even though it's not explicitly shown, it's very clearly happening.
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  And to then have it be that usup is like in denial about the
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  creepy stuff that's happening, and so he decides to play it off that it
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  didn't happen and she was imagining things. What are you doing? Like,
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  genuinely, what are you doing? This is so awful from top to bottom,
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  And I am so grossed out at the fact that it keeps being a
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  thing. And I know it's never gonna stop, because that is apparently the
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  nature of this particular beast. But Yo Nami, being hyper sexualized at every
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  opportunity is getting so old, and I am going to need like some sort
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  of button to press every time it happens to just have me saying the same
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  shit that I said last time, because it's never gonna be new. I'm
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  never going to have a new exciting take. It's always going to be this
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  is gross and unnecessary? Why are you doing it every time? And I
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  like this? This whole thing too that kills me is how like And I'm
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  not positive that this is a direct reference, but for those who there have
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  been a few different episodes of various podcasts I've covered where I've talked about like
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  some of the worst movies I've ever seen and movies that I almost like just
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  walked out of in the theater didn't make it to the end. I've never
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  actually walked out of a movie that I can remember, but the one that
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  got me the closest to walking out was Hollow Man with Kevin Bacon, which
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  is an invisible man movie and it has a similarly gratuitous rape scene, and
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  you don't actually, like it's not confirmed that he raped her, but it's
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  implied. And the whole scene is him, of course invisible in a woman's
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  bedroom who is young and gorgeous and of course topless, and he grabs her
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  and like pins her to the bed, and then the camera just cuts away
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  to a different scene. And I think it's very clear what they're saying happened.
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  And so that scene even way back when when I saw that movie,
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  and I must have been like sixteen years old, if that even back then,
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  I was like, oh my god, really come on, so to
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  see this kind of thing again, and in a show like this where everything
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  is lighthearted and goofy and fun, and then you have to fuck it up
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  with this and for what what kind of payoff is there? Even you know,
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  like it's just again, I do not think that there would be anything
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  lost by her being clothed and her friends be leaving her. I really don't.
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  And it's just always one of those things where like you try and put
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  a male character in this situation, like have it be usup who's being assaulted,
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  and all of a sudden, well that's too dark. That's really weird.
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  Yeah, isn't it? Isn't it? Like, come on anyway,
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  Sarah from says, I need to start setting alarms for this. I see
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  we are at that part. Brian says there are a couple more questionable scenes
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  in the future, but it never gets this bad again. I want to
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  believe you. I feel like somebody said that before about the scene where everybody
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  gets nosebleeds peeking at her in the bath, and here we are now,
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  but I want to believe you, so you know, I just I have
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  to. I have to. It's such a long part of this episode that
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  if it weren't so incredibly there even could have been a way to do this
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  where it's genuinely scary. But it's done in such a gratuitous way. It's
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  so clearly meant to be titillating, and that's the part that I find really
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  offensive. This is a sort of thing with Game of Thrones as well,
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  where people were just like, well, but rape was a fact of life,
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  and if you don't show it, then you're shying away from things.
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  And I'm like, yeah, but we don't need to see a woman been
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  over with her titties bouncing and crying, like I can understand that a rape
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  took place without you putting a whole thing on screen, And that is the
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  way it feels here where Nami is like when USAP comes in for refreshing people's
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  memories, if you don't recall or if you haven't watched this recently, when
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  Usa comes in because she's crying out for help, the camera does that thing
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  where there's like a gong and it jumps from one like frame to another dome
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  dome, dome, and the frames are her tits, her bare stomach,
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  and her crotch literally zoomed in filling the screen. It's just it's by far
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  the worst this show has been. And I can't believe. I just I
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  really can't get over the fact that this sort of thing just used to be
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  part of our collective accepted storytelling device and we just didn't see a problem with
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  it. Like it's just stop and thinking about it, Like how fucked up
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  is that that there was probably a time where almost nobody was bothered by this,
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  And I like, and I'm sure if I had watched this back when,
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  I probably would have been like, I don't like this, but I
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  can't put my finger on why like it wouldn't I wouldn't have had the words
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  to really explain, and probably a lot of people would be like, you're
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  being too sensitive. It's just a cartoon, it's just funny whatever. And
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  I just think about that all the time, that there were probably some folks
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  all along that were just like, you know, this is super uncool right
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  about so many things, and we're just told letting up. Oh my god,
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  you just want to ruin everything. Everything is to be pc for you,
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  and like people are doing that these days, but there's so much more
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  of a groundswell against that kind of voice now that those people are the ones
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  that I mock. And I'm not too proud to tell you all, I'm
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  not sure that I wouldn't have been one of the people telling somebody to lighten
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  up way back when. So anyway, y'all know, I had to.
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  I had to talk about this. It is just and I'm realizing Florian said
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  last week that there was something that or no. When I did the Live,
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  the Live, they're all lives they want to be I think Florian,
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  you said something about how you want me to just be myself and go for
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  it, and I think that probably were frying and considering that this invisible man
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  is, as our resident like wacky mad scientist doctor put it, is a
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  skirt chaser and has mentioned Robin. Also, I'm going to assume this shit
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  isn't over, you know, that there's probably some other and I'm going to
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  assume hopefully that his introduction was the most over the top part. And after
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  this, it's not going to ever be this like explicit again. But clearly
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  him like wanting to make Nami his bride somehow is gonna be an ongoing subplot,
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  which I am not excited about it at all. So and it's also
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  like the fact that he was spying on her comes as absolutely no surprise to
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  Hogback, who basically predicts that's what happened because he hears I think us up
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  like uses one of his gunpowder balls to get rid of the dude, and
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  Hogback is down in the dining room and hears it, and it's like,
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  oh, man, is he did he do it? Again? Like,
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  clearly knows that this being is around, and he has a history of doing
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  this sort of thing, which I want to be like grossed out by.
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  But frankly, Hogback is obviously such a fucking maniac that I'm not surprised he
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  just lets the sexual assaulter continue sexually assaulting. What are you gonna do?
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  Am I right, Sarah? Him says the animes need to draw things out
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  really does not help either. This whole scene was just two pages in the
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  manga and framed a lot less fan fan service. Eh, that's too bad.
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  It's too bad, you guys. I don't I don't like being in
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  this being in this headspace because otherwise he's episodes, there's so much fun,
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  you know. I just it's such a shame that that's cast a pall over
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  everything. But okay, we're gonna get past it. But you know,
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  she doesn't get out of the shower and like feel safe for I think it's
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  about a full, like six or seven minute scene, so it's not I
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  mean, in an episode that's a total of like eighteen minutes long. That's
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  a lot of the episode. So okay, we're gonna go. Now back
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  to the sunny and Zoro is like looking around at their situation and the fact
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  that they got caught up in this weird web, as did the mini Mary,
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  and he's just thinking about how obvious as it is that this is a
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  trap and that they are being like maneuvered in such a way that there is
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  only one way that they can get in, and that is via this like
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  front gate. So in his opinion, the very fact that somebody is trying
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  to get them to go a certain direction is in itself a real bad sign,
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  and we should just err on the side of not doing whatever this anonymous
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  person wants us to do, because I Am not thinking they're doing it for
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  our benefit. But he looks down and sees that Lufy is already like about
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  to walk through the gates. I really do enjoy when Zoro's like figuring all
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  this out, talking about this, you know, this the trap, and
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  how obvious it is. He is sort of talking to himself. So then
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  when the camera moves, Lufy says something like, what are you doing?
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  Just muttering up there? And I like whenever there's a moment in a TV
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  show where it seems as if something is happening, like maybe inside somebody's head,
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  or one of my favorite ones is when the music seems like it's being
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  played over the scene by the sound designers, but then the camera pulls back
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  and there's like an actual guitarist sitting next to our main character playing it.
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  Those kinds of moments are always fun. And so this moment with Zoro talking
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  to himself, I really thought he was talking to his friends. So when
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  the camera pulls out and we see how far they are from him, and
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  he has been talking to himself the whole time. And it's not the way
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  this joke has been done, where you think you're talking to your friends because
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  you've turned your back and haven't noticed that they've all walked away. It's just
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  how it's not like that. It's how Zoro operates that he does sort of
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  just talk to himself. He's very insular, you know. So when he
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  says to Lufy, are you seriously just going to walk into this extremely obvious
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  trap, Lufy, in a moment of real beauty, says, yeah,
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  pretty much, y'all. I really thought we were gonna get a trap.
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  What do you mean? No, nope, it's just a yeah, what
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  do you? Of course? I am is I'm not really seeing the problem.
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  Can you elaborate what you think the problem is here? I fucking cracked
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  up. I am not gonna lie, and then follows up with we haven't
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  got anything better to do that for me? That was a real winner.
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  Just I mean, you know, I can't find fault with that argument.
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  That's pretty solid. So this bit just was so good and he basically throws
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  his hat and it was just like, yeah, all right, I guess.
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  So they wind up coming across the fucking cerberus, which Lufy immediately is
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  like I would like to eat it, which is a really weird reaction.
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  Like I am willing to accept him feeling this way about sea creatures, because
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  anything that isn't a mammal always feels a little bit more like I'm really willing
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  to immediately see it as food. And even some mammals a giant pig for
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  instance, or something, I can still be like, well, yeah,
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  okay, roast that bitch up. I get it. But these are two
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  wolves and a fox, and it just doesn't feel like the thing you jump
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  to, even if you are a huge like meat eater, it just doesn't
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  feel like the kind of creature you look at and think, I bet that
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  would be good, and I bet they aren't good. From what I understand,
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  eating predator animals is a very different like experience than eating animals that are
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  omnivores or herbivores, and I am not feel like there was some study.
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  I remember this one of those little sort of memes that's gone around where it's
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  a couple of paragraphs that were cut together, and it was somebody talking about
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  how a person asked some scientists what a t rex would taste like, and
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  they did some analysis of what a predator that size, what their body composition
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  would be like, and they figured out that a t rex would be the
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  kind of animal that consumes so much prey and is sort of has like such
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  a what's the word I want, not even sophisticated, but just an efficient
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  digestive system and liver to filter that it would be able to handle extreme amounts
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  of protein and probably certain like carbons and heavy metals that would have been in
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  the atmosphere and the soil at the time that likely a t rex's flesh would
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  have been essentially poisonous to eat. That if a person did indeed kill a
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  t rex and try and eat it, if they had anything close to our
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  present day physiology, it would kill them. And that is just immediately what
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  I'm thinking of with these wolves is just like, dude, you don't want
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  to eat those? I feel like that's going to be really bad for you.
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  I mean, obviously you don't want to eat them, because these bitches
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  were dead at one point, Like I fully believe that they were brought back
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  to life, and so probably you don't want to eat them for that reason
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  also, but even if they were just regular ass normal wolves. So anyway,
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  he like kind of gets these creatures off guard by asking whether or not
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  that he can eat them, and they stand there staring at him in this
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  dejected kind of manner, and their tail droops, and Lufy kind of comes
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  at them and does this like little bark and they back away from him,
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  and eventually it gets to the point where he's like, well, obviously this
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  thing is going to be our pet, and I am going to tame it.
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  And he goes up to them and tries to do, Oh, who's
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  all go, boys? And I love this? He just says a good
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  boy, but then ends it plural, who's a good boys? They chomp
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  different parts of his body at the same time, to which he has no
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  reaction because as a rubber man, I guess it just doesn't do anything.
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  And he gets them to let him go very easy, very soft, very
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  gentle, and then he says, now sit and he Basically, it seems
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  as if he punches them or body slams them and they go down, and
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  that for him at least is mission accomplished. It is now tame, which
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  is don't you just wish training a dog was that easy? But that is
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  not how it works. But yeah, this Cerberus winds up becoming Lufy's horse
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  basically, and we see them all like walking into that big graveyard and he
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  is just riding on its back and it looks so sad. You guys,
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  I would be all about this if the Cerberus seemed as if he were like
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  kind of interested and excited, but he just seems really downtrodden and discouraged,
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  and I really felt bad for him. So they're walking through the fog and
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  I love this. Robin says something about how they're you know, they may
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  as well be going in circles because of this fog, who knows, and
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  fucking Sanji says something like if we hadn't brought moss Head, maybe we'd be
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  fine, as if to indicate that the very presence of Zoro means it's more
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  likely you're gonna get lost, like he's a bad luck charm, which I
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  kind of enjoy that interpretation, it's it makes it a little bit more legendary
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  that Zoro is so easy to get lost that he misinterprets directions or forgets them
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  that quickly. The idea that it's just like maybe there was like a cursed
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  laid on him at some point. So now not only is he always lost
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  but and and has like no sense of direction, but also anybody around him
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  also gets lost. I don't know, I just found that really funny.
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  So this is when our friends turn a corner and they come across that weird
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  sort of mummified unicorn pouring. I am guessing sake for a tree with a
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  man's face and arms attached, and also legs, but his legs are much
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  less human looking. I guess the feet are really the least human looking part.
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  And all of these people stop dead, and I love lufy a tree
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  with a geezer's face is totally getting drunk with a beat up unicorn. I'm
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  I appreciate that summary because it's so weird a tableau, and hearing it said
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  out loud, it's no less weird. There's something very like validating about you
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  say it out loud. No, that sounds fucking crazy. Out loud also,
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  So yeah, these two are just like sitting there, and all of
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  a sudden we cut to Frankie chasing the unicorn, saying that he's going to
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  make a wish on it, whether it likes it or not, and Lufy
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  is trying to chase down the tree and he has his net aloft, so
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  I am assuming that this was to make him a pet. But eventually he
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  does corner them and try and convince them to become members of the crew,
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  which of course his present members are much much less enthusiastic about. I do
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  really like the voice of the tree. He's just like, no, leave
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  me alone. What are you doing? Kid? Like he's genuinely I just
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  wanted to have a drink with my friend go home. And the fact that
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  Lufy asks these guys to also join the crew, he is very He just
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  needs to have a little more discernment about throwing this invitation out there. I'm
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  just saying, So, let's see, we have the conversation between Hogback and
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  Absalom. Is that his name, the Invisible Man Absalom? I can't remember
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  how it's pronounced. The conversation between the two of them is sort of weird
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  because like Absalom, you see his silhouette, so it's like he is invisible,
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  but is like it seems like he can control when he's invisible, in
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  other words, and we find out here something kind of interesting. Absalom mom
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  is saying that he wants to take Nami and make her his wife or whatever,
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  and Hogback is like, I understand that this is your normal emo,
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  but you can't do that with this one because she is worth way too much.
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  And he's like, what do you mean? And Hogback says their bounties
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  add up to something like six hundred million berries, which it honestly just never
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  even entered my mind for a moment that we would have to be worried about
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  this guy, in particular handing them over. I just thought a man like
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  this is going to in the tradition of like a cartoon mad doctor would be
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  wanting new victims to experiment on, and the fact that he just needs the
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  money or wants the money, but I'm gonna put it with needs because he
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  seems like the kind of guy that uses real rare ingredients and equipment for things
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  that need a lot of upkeep and replacing, So probably he's working on a
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  budget that's like very high, and he needs to have some income source to
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  supplement all of his research and experimentation, So it makes a lot of sense
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  that he would be after money. It just did not occur to me that
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  was I didn't think that this even seemed like the sort of place where you
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  would find out that there were bounties out there. Does he get like a
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  paper delivered like what we have seen a paper delivery system an alabasta in that
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  arc? Right? Is that? Was that the one where it's like a
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  stork and an otter deliver it. There's a real weird sequence there that I
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  kind of have remember, But I just feel like that sort of delivery system,
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  I don't see them coming in this island, not even necessarily because it's
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  so far out, but it's just not their vibe. And this is the
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  kind of island where you toss that paper off your ship deck and keep going.
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  You don't stop and pull up to the front door. So yeah,
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  he tells Absalom stay the fuck away from Nami because we are going to need
• 33:25
  her, and then we have the whole thing in the hallway where she's talking
• 33:34
  to usop about how obviously shit like he saw her being lifted off the ground.
• 33:42
  How could he not believe her? He thinks that, like he has
• 33:45
  to pretend that he didn't see anything, because what she's concerned with is the
• 33:50
  fact that he saw her naked, So he has got to lie in order
• 33:54
  to help her save face. It's a really weird, like convoluted thing that
• 34:00
  he's got going on. But anyway, what this boils down to is them
• 34:07
  both kind of saying to Chopper, this place is fucked up, and you
• 34:10
  have to know that Hogback is behind all of this. And Chopper not only
• 34:19
  is completely failing to use any of his intelligence, but says to Nami,
• 34:25
  well, why don't we just go ask doctor Hogback about it? How does
• 34:30
  that sound? And stalks off and there's a pause, and then us Up
• 34:35
  says that sounds like a really really bad idea, And I was like,
• 34:38
  thank you. You don't go up to the person you think is guilty of
• 34:45
  a thing when they own the house. No, the grounds have all the
• 34:52
  weapons on their side and tell them you suspect them of a giant hay his
• 35:00
  crime and ask their perspective on it. Like that's for me, Chopper,
• 35:12
  what are you doing, babe? He's just in such hero worship mode at
• 35:14
  the moment, and it's so weird because he's like, how could you think
• 35:17
  that? And I'm like, this man literally told you at dinner that he
• 35:22
  is working on bringing the dead back to life. Sir, he said it,
• 35:29
  and you told him with your mouth that you supported those efforts and that
• 35:36
  research, and now you're acting like them, suggesting that he might have something
• 35:42
  to do with the zombification of what looks to be every living thing on this
• 35:45
  island. You're acting all offended over it. What are you? What are
• 35:50
  you talking about? Bra, Like, get it together. So this this
• 35:58
  basically lead to them finding their way back to the main room where they had
• 36:02
  had dinner, only now everything is in darkness. There is no indication that
• 36:09
  this room has been used recently at all, and they can't find their host
• 36:14
  and everything is just feeling real weird. And then all of a sudden,
• 36:20
  one of the candelabras flares to life and there is Hildone and he is just
• 36:27
  chilling like a bat the way he does. I am going to say once
• 36:31
  again that Hildon looks like a Cereal mascot. And also, guys, I
• 36:37
  really love him, Like I think Hildon might be one of my favorite character
• 36:45
  designs of the show. He there's certain there's certain characters that are like have
• 36:50
  interesting elements, but the elements are put together in a way that I'm like,
• 36:53
  this feels like it doesn't make any visual sense. And then there's Hildon,
• 36:59
  who all of him just seems to go together. He's got that perfectly
• 37:06
  spherical body head with like a nose that feels extremely round and eyes that are
• 37:13
  extremely round. Then that's all sort of like offset by the real spiky hair
• 37:21
  coming up from the top of his head and the real spiky teeth coming down
• 37:25
  from the inside of his mouth, so those like really balance each other.
• 37:30
  And then he's got the giant bat wings with his like little hands at the
• 37:34
  ends of them, so that he has to stand with his arms crossed in
• 37:37
  front of himself like he's a bat. And those things look really good together
• 37:42
  wrapped around his like mummified body. So he's got an odd like combo of
• 37:50
  elements of a mummy and a dracula going on. And then the fact that
• 37:55
  he's got that big bottle on his back just adds a little bit of intrigue,
• 38:00
  you know, Like this guy isn't as simple as just being a weird
• 38:07
  Dracula man. He also has some kind of agenda with this bottle of god
• 38:13
  knows what. I really if they made like a little figure of him,
• 38:20
  I wouldn't be mad at having it as like a Halloween decoration. I know
• 38:23
  that there'd be plenty of people out there who would use it as a year
• 38:25
  round decoration. I don't get down like that. I appreciate those who do,
• 38:30
  but it's not for me. But it would make a pretty good stuffedye,
• 38:35
  you know, like one of those little squishmallows of him, I think
• 38:38
  would look really good. So anyway, he is trying to convince them that
• 38:46
  everything is fine, and won't they just follow him to their guest rooms,
• 38:52
  to which, understandably, our friends are like, you cannot be fucking serious.
• 38:58
  Are you really thinking that after everything, we're just gonna fucking go laid
• 39:04
  down and go to sleep under your roof? Is that likely? What are
• 39:07
  you thinking? And he starts to get genuinely sad, like you can see
• 39:13
  his eyes are He's just downcast. He starts to sweat. There's a whole
• 39:19
  sensation of him trying to fix whatever, like misunderstanding as he puts it his
• 39:25
  happen to cause them to turn on him, which I am not entirely sure
• 39:31
  what the motive was. He says something about when they accuse him of leaving
• 39:37
  them in that cemetery. First he tries to say that he just had to
• 39:42
  pee really bad and so he forgot and left them there. It's just I'm
• 39:46
  not really sure why he left them there, because part of me was like,
• 39:51
  well, maybe you just hoped they would die, But if you want
• 39:57
  them to be dead, you could probably have killed them any number of ways.
• 40:01
  By now, what was it the zombies would do that you couldn't do
• 40:06
  yourself. I'm not really sure what the point was of that, but maybe
• 40:10
  we'll see. And then we hear a woman's voice chiming in as he's like,
• 40:16
  well, let me see what I can get the doctor to say about
• 40:22
  it. She says, you've bungled it and now I have to take care
• 40:25
  of it. And he starts to sweat even more and insisting to this disembodied
• 40:34
  voice, no, no, no, I got it, I got it.
• 40:36
  I'll just take them up to their rooms. It'll be fine. And
• 40:39
  then the camera pulls out and there is a weird painting of a woman whose
• 40:46
  faces stitch together, and she says, I think it's a little late for
• 40:52
  that. And I'm over here, you know, watching this episode, like,
• 40:57
  oh sweet, we have live paintings. I'm all about it. And
• 41:00
  that was like off the bat, But then when everybody starts to be like,
• 41:08
  oh my god, talking painting, what the fuck? Very rightfully,
• 41:13
  so she then stretches her neck so that her head is out of the frame
• 41:22
  on the end of a very long neck, and then turns to look at
• 41:28
  them. You guys, this is by far the creepiest thing this show has
• 41:31
  ever done. Her just stretching her neck is so unnerving. I mean,
• 41:39
  you know, like, and it didn't really I didn't stop to think about
• 41:44
  it because I had said about what a classic trope it is to have paintings
• 41:49
  that are like watching you from the walls that move, But I've never really
• 41:53
  thought about what the payoff is supposed to be in the end of paintings that
• 42:00
  are alive. And I guess the idea was, oh, what if you
• 42:07
  like wound up inside the painting, like trapped in there? Like what if
• 42:14
  those people weren't even just painted, but they were somehow imprisoned in there?
• 42:21
  But I never really took it to the next step where it's like, what
• 42:24
  if somebody from the painting comes out of it and grabs you and starts to
• 42:30
  pull you into it. And so I don't even want to call what happens
• 42:36
  next a trope exactly, because I'm not sure if it falls under that category.
• 42:42
  But she grabs Chopper and starts to drag him toward her, and I
• 42:51
  genuinely was like freaking out a little bit because I was thinking, are we
• 42:54
  going to get like a two D Chopper in the show? You know that's
• 43:00
  like been flattened out because he's in the painting? What are we So Nami
• 43:04
  goes after Chopper and she manages to get there before this woman fully pulls him
• 43:10
  in. If that was what she was intending to do, it's again unclear,
• 43:15
  And she's struggling with the woman in the painting to get Chopper back as
• 43:21
  Usup looks over his shoulder and there's a pig's head on the wall with a
• 43:25
  couple of swords balanced over its head in a kind of decoration, and it
• 43:32
  chucks a sword at him, and as he's saying this that there's like,
• 43:39
  you know, threatening taxidermy back here, Nami. He looks down and there
• 43:45
  is an eye opening on the bear skin rug that one of the swords landed
• 43:52
  in, which this bear apparently takes exception to, and he stands up and
• 43:58
  is like, who the hell put a damn sword in my back? So
• 44:01
  it's a pretty fun sequence where basically everything with a face in the room,
• 44:09
  from statue type things to this you know rug, to the paintings all come
• 44:20
  alive, and we've got us up. Who manages to get away from the
• 44:27
  bear and he's clinging to the candelabra. He grabs a candle off of it
• 44:31
  and chucks it at the bear and it lights him on fire, and then
• 44:37
  all of the other paintings really go nuts and start to talk about how he
• 44:43
  has. One of them says, oh the rug manity. I was like,
• 44:49
  really, guys, the carpet itself is doing a real Austin Powers sort
• 44:57
  of reference. I can't believe this. You threw a candle at me?
• 45:01
  Who does that? And I was thinking, man, I really wonder about
• 45:07
  the released day of this episode and the released day of Austin Powers. I'm
• 45:12
  just asking questions. But this moment is when things really just basically hit the
• 45:22
  fan, and we go into the next episode with everybody being chased in various
• 45:29
  parts of the island. We've got these three being chased down the hallway.
• 45:35
  They eventually wind up with the fireplace that turns them into a different room,
• 45:39
  and they are able to hide from these creatures there because they hold it shut,
• 45:45
  but there's already a zombie on the other side, so it's not as
• 45:50
  safe as one could wish. And then they wind up in this weird bedroom
• 45:57
  and it's got all of these pictures on the wall of this girl that they
• 46:06
  saw earlier with the Her name is Victoria something, but she is the one
• 46:13
  that has the grudge against dishes and dishwear. And at first, fair like,
• 46:21
  is this her room? That doesn't really make sense because you don't just
• 46:27
  have a million pictures of yourself in your own room. So Nami picks up
• 46:35
  a photo album or a scrap book. It's a scrap book, and there
• 46:38
  are all of these different articles in there about Victoria Chindrey. Okay, Chindrey
• 46:46
  is her last name, and she was like this really well known actress.
• 46:52
  And then she reaches an article where there was an accident and apparently she died,
• 47:00
  but they all saw her walking around and talking, and you know,
• 47:07
  it takes them a really long time to think through the fact that she had
• 47:12
  a very different personality and that she had like big obvious stitches on her face.
• 47:19
  So once they figure this out and they start to put two and two
• 47:22
  together about the fact that these are like all reanimated dead creatures on this island,
• 47:30
  they're like, well, we really need to get something like get out
• 47:34
  of here, and fucking Nami. In the midst of all this, spots
• 47:38
  what looks like a treasure chest behind us up and she can't let it go.
• 47:45
  She can't just be like, I have better shit to think about right
• 47:47
  now, because in her opinion, she doesn't, and if it's treasure,
• 47:51
  it trumps literally everything else. So she insists that they open it, which
• 47:57
  results in this giant, terrifying jack in the box popping out. And even
• 48:02
  then, even after a giant terrifying jack in the box pops out and scares
• 48:07
  the living daylights out of them, even then, when they're running away,
• 48:13
  Namia is thinking to herself, Wow, he said there's no treasure in this
• 48:19
  room. Interesting wording. That sounds like there is treasure in another room.
• 48:25
  And I'm like, girl, that's not what that sounds like. I am
• 48:29
  sure because it's being brought up that's going to be what it turns out to
• 48:32
  mean because for the show, sure, but I would not have interpreted it
• 48:38
  that way at all. And it just feels like, girl, this is
• 48:42
  not the time, all right. You're running for your life for like the
• 48:45
  third time today. Just stop worrying about the treasure. That's not your priority
• 48:50
  right now. And as they flee down the hall, we have a couple
• 48:54
  of the guys in different paintings coming out to try and scare them and grab
• 49:00
  them, and they get interrupted by this dude Rhyuma I think is the name,
• 49:08
  and he is wearing those like wooden platform sandals that I think are like
• 49:15
  called like rice patty sandals something like that, and he is very skeleton like.
• 49:24
  I don't know that he's really just a skeleton because he looks like he's
• 49:28
  got some skin clinging to him still, but he is definitely like in the
• 49:34
  kind of shape where he should not be alive anymore. And he is saying
• 49:39
  I will take care of this. Guys from the paintings, don't worry about
• 49:44
  it, go back to bed. I'm on it, and is really confident
• 49:49
  with it, so clearly he has done this ship before. And I am
• 49:53
  not excited about this for them, because I mean, our friends are like
• 49:57
  real cute and everything, but they're not up for it. So we wind
• 50:06
  up. We go back first to the straw Hats that are with Lufy as
• 50:12
  they're exploring this forest and they're arguing about who gets to be invited to the
• 50:20
  crew, and Sanjie calls Frankie a robot, and Frankie says, I'm not
• 50:30
  a robot, I'm a cyborg. How many times do I have to tell
• 50:35
  you, to which Sanjie says to Frankie, I don't care what you call
• 50:42
  yourself, You're still a pervert, to which Frankie grins and says, oh,
• 50:49
  so you do understand me after all. And it was such a puzzling
• 50:53
  exchange because I haven't seen Frankie seemed like a pervert really, And Sanjie,
• 51:00
  you are the biggest pervert. Who are you callin pervert? Sir Sanji?
• 51:07
  That's you? What are you talking about? I was just really no self
• 51:15
  awareness from that young man, none at all. So this is when Robin
• 51:21
  starts to point out that like all of the creatures, they've been running into
• 51:24
  have these weird stitches or they have bandages, and they definitely all have numbers
• 51:30
  written on their side. And there she's assuming this means that they are all
• 51:36
  working for the same guy. And as they're talking about this, all of
• 51:42
  a sudden, these ghosts appear. This is such a weird little sequence,
• 51:46
  y'all, because I don't know what they sound like in the original. I
• 51:52
  am thinking that I'm gonna try and go over and hear it. But somebody
• 51:59
  finally he says, they're saying negative. I think it's Robin. In the
• 52:06
  dub. It sounds for all the world like they're saying nicotine. It is
• 52:10
  so weird. It is not the kind of pronunciation of negative that feels like
• 52:15
  it was written or said by people who speak English is their native language.
• 52:21
  So I don't know if that's like the actual same sound that they used in
• 52:25
  the original, or if it was dubbed and they say something different in the
• 52:30
  original, But it's nicotine, NiCoT nicotive like that. There's not unpronouncing the
• 52:37
  V too much. It's like barely even there. I did not know what
• 52:42
  the fuck they were saying until Robin points it out, and what happens with
• 52:47
  these guys is they basically they fly through you and cause this deep depression.
• 52:55
  Like a depression isn't even an adequate word. It's like a total despair,
• 53:02
  and it's coupled with a self loathing, which, honestly, do any of
• 53:08
  us need more of this in our lives? Like I feel like we're good,
• 53:12
  we can we can all just imagine thanks, how this goes no,
• 53:19
  no, no more necessary. And it happens first to Frankie, then it
• 53:27
  happens to Lufy. Both Sanji and Zoro are watching this and like rolling their
• 53:34
  eyes a little bit, and Zoro says something about how if they were just
• 53:39
  more disciplined, they would be able to like get past this and not let
• 53:46
  it affect them so much, and then one of them goes through him and
• 53:53
  he winds up completely crumpling as well. And I really really did appreciate that,
• 54:00
  because y'all, again, how many of us have been told as people
• 54:08
  who struggle maybe with depression, maybe with you know, highs and lows of
• 54:14
  like mania, that it's just our lack of discipline, and if we tried
• 54:22
  hard enough and we're simply better people, that we would be able to counteract
• 54:28
  it and not experience this at all. It's a really common you know.
• 54:35
  It's the sort of thing that like Owen has struggled with this his whole life.
• 54:39
  And he saw his mother share some meme that was like, these are
• 54:46
  antidepressants, and it was a photo of a pair of sneakers and a forest
• 54:52
  and then a photo of pills and it said this is shit, which is
• 54:57
  just you're so ignorant. Oh my god. Anybody's sharing that is just an
• 55:01
  ignoramus. That's all there is to it. Depression is a very real thing.
• 55:07
  Medications are very real things, and the whole leg well, everybody's on
• 55:12
  medication these days. We can't all be depressed, Yes we can, because
• 55:15
  we live in a capitalist healthscape. Yes, I can't la depressed to you
• 55:21
  guys, because human beings wearm and not meant to live like this. It
• 55:28
  was never supposed to be like this. We have done this to ourselves.
• 55:32
  Certainly. Does that make it any less real? No, it does not.
• 55:38
  It sure doesn't. So Anyway, I appreciated that Zoro falls prey to
• 55:45
  these things just as readily as his friends, and he has no armor against
• 55:51
  it whatsoever. It does seem to wear off fairly quickly because we cut to
• 55:57
  them renewed and yell at the ghosts. Basically all of them are like enraged
• 56:04
  at how the ghosts made them feel, and they have a vendetta. Now.
• 56:08
  Sangi is yelling at Zoro about how he's gonna call him dog food for
• 56:16
  now on and then says, wait, wait, sorry, you said you
• 56:21
  weren't even good enough to be dog food, and then start cracking up,
• 56:24
  and Zoro is very annoyed. I can't lie, though, Zoro is such
• 56:30
  a like cool customer all the time that I really do appreciate them having something
• 56:35
  to laugh at about him, you know. So we go back to our
• 56:44
  friends in the cast. Oh my god, no, wait, hold on.
• 56:46
  Before we go back, we come across this weird graveyard and Lufy sees
• 56:53
  a zombie climbing up out of the graveyard. And you guys, what does
• 57:01
  this man do? He walks over to the zombie with a kind of like
• 57:15
  expression on his face, like when if you were to go somewhere and see
• 57:21
  a picture frame crooked on the wall. There's no fear, there's no real
• 57:27
  sense of wonder about it. It's more just a kind of like, huh,
• 57:34
  let me just fix that real quick. And he walks up to this
• 57:37
  zombie and just begins to shove him back into his grave, which is truly
• 57:47
  the number one, bar none, best reaction to seeing a zombie I have
• 57:54
  ever heard of in my life. I can't stress to you guys enough how
• 58:02
  my mind was blown by this reaction. If you had given me a little
• 58:08
  like a pad and paper and said, write down ten reactions, you could
• 58:15
  imagine Lufy having to a zombie. This wouldn't have been on there at all.
• 58:20
  It would not have entered my mind as a possibility. It simply wouldn't
• 58:24
  be anywhere in my radar. I am so delighted by this. I really
• 58:31
  want it to be like a gift, him seeing it and walking over and
• 58:37
  trying to shove it back into its grave. I will never not love this.
• 58:42
  This is just the best moment. It is just perfect. It's so
• 58:46
  good. So then the zombie yells at him not to put him back in
• 58:52
  the ground, jackass. Which is I think the first time that we've heard
• 58:57
  the zombies talk. No, no we didn't, because they they talked about
• 59:00
  how the fire was really like dangerous and irresponsible. So yeah, we've heard
• 59:04
  them talk before. I forgot, So he leaps up, and when he
• 59:07
  leaps up, it results in like a bunch of other zombies coming up out
• 59:12
  of their graves in these sort of superhero poses. They're flying through the air,
• 59:16
  they're doing kicks and these leaps and everything, and Sangi says, like
• 59:22
  our zombies normally this like active, and they start coming for our crew,
• 59:31
  which, of course, the reaction that Nami and us Up and Chopper head
• 59:37
  is very different to the reaction that our friends here are having. They are
• 59:43
  up for it. They are very excited to fight these zombies and they make
• 59:49
  pretty quick work of them. It's not a problem, and just relish this
• 59:53
  fight all about it. So okay, that fight is happening. And then
• 1:00:04
  we go back to the castle and Nami, Usup and Chopper have stumbled across
• 1:00:10
  the doorway to the mysterious laboratory and they see doctor Hogback and he is down
• 1:00:20
  there by a table and he is talking about creating a marionette. And it's
• 1:00:27
  this dude that's like laying on the table that he's like stitching together. He's
• 1:00:30
  doing something with him, obviously, like trying to bring him to life.
• 1:00:34
  But I don't know how this is different from the many other things that he's
• 1:00:37
  brought to life. And Victoria is there saying, I hope the stupid thing
• 1:00:45
  blows up and burns your face off with no change of expression. She says
• 1:00:49
  that she brought him some food, and then she dumps this bag it's like
• 1:00:55
  a ziploc baggie of spaghetti soup like onto the table, which later in the
• 1:01:01
  background, when our friends are talking in the foreground, you can hear Hogback
• 1:01:07
  telling her not to worry. He'll just slurp it off the table as long
• 1:01:14
  as it's not on the floor. It's fair game basically, which was truly
• 1:01:19
  an inspired little bit of business to be happening in the background. But yeah,
• 1:01:23
  so our friends are watching this and they're trying to figure out like what
• 1:01:27
  the deal is with this woman Victoria having been brought back, and what it
• 1:01:32
  is that he is attempting to do. And as they're watching, thinking like,
• 1:01:39
  well, maybe we can find our way out of here from here,
• 1:01:45
  they hear footsteps behind them and they turn around and there is that weird skeleton
• 1:01:54
  ish sort of figure and he makes the same sort of laugh that Brooke made.
• 1:02:05
  It's very, very similar, and of course he has in some ways
• 1:02:08
  the same appearance that Brooke had, but Chopper is the one who's like,
• 1:02:14
  well, that's definitely not Brooke though, right, And this dude is clearly
• 1:02:21
  here, as he puts it to like shepherd them back to where they're supposed
• 1:02:24
  to be. But there's something about his like real stillness and his lack of
• 1:02:31
  rush that's very intimidating. I have a feeling this is going to be a
• 1:02:36
  difficult customer to handle. But he has hair and he's got a little bit
• 1:02:45
  of skin, I think, so he's not entirely a skeleton. And that's
• 1:02:52
  the end of the episode. Camera pulls out. We get to see the
• 1:02:54
  exterior of this big, weird castle, and that is it. So I'm
• 1:03:01
  going to wrap up, but thank you guys so much for hanging out with
• 1:03:05
  me. Appreciate you all a lot. Appreciate you also bearing with me being
• 1:03:08
  late. And until next time to the Loom. Motherfucker's That was an Unspoiled
• 1:03:45
  Network podcast.