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Ep. 4164 UK Breakup Fears SURGE as Leaders Push for INDEPENDENCE REFERENDUM!!! · Turley Talks

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  [SPEAKER_00]: The liberal globalist order is on its brink and awakening a new conservative age.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Dr. Steve Turley, join me every day as we discover answers to today's toughest challenges and explore the re-bondalization of conservative civilization.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not just Canada, now the United Kingdom appears to be coming apart, literally.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Something extraordinary just happened in the Welsh capital of Cardiff, something that could ultimately redraw the map of Britain forever.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: three nationalist leaders join forces, West Ministers being put on notice and fears of a historic break up or suddenly searching.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But there's a twist in all this that virtually no one saw coming because the one political leader who could save the United Kingdom may also be the very man who ends up tearing it apart.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So is Britain truly approaching its final days?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly what we're about to find out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yesterday, the leaders of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland met in Cardiff and signed what's already being called the Cardiff Agreement.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I memorandum asserting the right of their nations to determine their own future.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The three leaders from all from their respective
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Nationalist parties, John Swinney of the Scottish National Party, reenapped your worth of the Welsh Party, plied, cumary, and Michelle O'Neill of Shinfane of Northern Ireland.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They all met together to affirm their individual national sovereignty and their right to self-determination, and they called on the British government to prepare for plan and facilitate constitutional change in each jurisdiction.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: In other words, these leaders are telling Westminster,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You are not under any circumstances to block or get involved in future votes on Scotland leaving the UK or Wales leaving the UK or Northern Ireland joining up with the Republic of Ireland and you better begin planning how those votes in any resulting transitions would work.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So as you can see, this was no ordinary meeting between regional politicians.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is a very big deal.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But to be clear, this was a party agreement not a legally binding treaty between the governments of the three subnations as it were.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It does not itself schedule a single referendum.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But politically, it creates something Britain has never faced before.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: a coordinated Celtic front, stretching from Edinburgh to Cardiff to Belfast, all demanding the Democratic right to decide whether the union survives.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now if you're not familiar with how the UK works politically.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Since 1999, Britain is operated with what's called a devolved parliamentary system, which means that the UK Parliament in Westminster has transferred certain governing powers to elected institutions in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So these governments can make decisions on matters such as health and education and
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  [SPEAKER_00]: housing and transport while Westminster retains authority over reserve matters such as defense and foreign affairs and much of constitutional policy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, devolution, as it's called, is self-government within the United Kingdom, where Westminster remains legally sovereign.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: However, since devolution began,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the first time all three devolved nations are led by thoroughly nationalist parties that ultimately want out of the UK and Scotland is unquestionably the most immediate flash point.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you'll remember the referendum back in 2014 when Scottish voters voted on independence
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and that's the key here.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That vote happened before 2016 Brexit referendum in Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain inside the European Union only to be pulled out because England's much larger electorate voted overwhelmingly to leave.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That gave the SNP, it's a Scottish
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  [SPEAKER_00]: ever since.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Scotland was promised stability inside Britain and Britain then removed Scotland from Europe against its will.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Today, the polling is effectively deadlocked with support for yes and no generally hovering around 50% once undecided voters removed.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: John Swinney insists momentum is shifting and that Scotland must be allowed to choose independence again.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But can
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's precisely where Westminster still holds the cards.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You see in 2022, the UK Supreme Court ruled unanimously that the Scottish Parliament cannot organize an independence referendum without the consent of the British government, because the union itself is a matter reserved to Westminster.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So unless London grants the necessary authority or changes the law, the Scottish Parliament cannot lawfully hold another referendum on its own.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So the UK's current Prime Minister, they've had a lot of them over the last decade, but Andy Burnham.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: their current PM, uh, he's saying there will be no second referendum without a clear majority support, which Scottish Nationalists see is creating an impossible trap, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So Westminster demands proof support while denying Scotland the very vote that would prove it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: that's the way they see it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So the card of pact that was just signed the other day, that's designed to make that refusal politically harder to sustain, especially when it involves all three of the devolved parliaments.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But in many respects, it's not Scotland that all eyes are on.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Wales, maybe the real political earthquake that cracks the UK at its very foundations.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But if you think about it, all of this is not about what kind of future we're going to have.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: For generations, Welsh politics was dominated by labor, while Welsh independence remained a minority cause, not anymore.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: In May, the leftist nationalist party, applied cumary, 143 seats and became the largest party in the Welsh parliament, known as the Senate.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: in effectively ended a century of labor dominance.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, on the other side of the aisle, Nigel Farage's reform UK searched into second place with 34 seats.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So together, applied from the nationalist left and reform from the populist right, controls 77.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: of the Senate's 96 seats.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was absolutely stunning political earthquake.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That rock, the UK, because it put a bona fide Welsh nationalist party into power for the very first time in the century.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, they're leader, renapped your worth.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's not promising in immediate
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  [SPEAKER_00]: that support for independence, it remains, you know, well below Scotland's level.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's more or less akin to what we're seeing with the Alberta Independence Movement Canada.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's getting around 30, 32 percent support.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But, and this is key, support is dramatically higher among younger Welsh voters, which means independence may be weak as an election day
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then there's Northern Ireland, where the rules are completely different, under the nationalist plan, Northern Ireland would leave the UK and they would join up with the Republic, creating United Ireland.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And unlike Scotland or Wales, the legal route already exists for that, under the Northern Ireland Act and the Good Friday Agreement.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The British Secretary of State must call border poll if it appears likely that a majority would vote to leave the UK and join Ireland.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So if Northern Ireland votes for re-unification, Britain must bring forward proposals to give a fact to that choice with consent also required inside the Republic of Ireland as well.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: polling varies considerably, according to the wording of the question, a May survey conducted earlier this year found that about 36% would vote for a United Ireland compared with 50% opposed the remainder undecided and neutral.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a majority, but it's no fringe fantasy either.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, the great wild cart in all of this is none other than Nigel Farage and Reform UK.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They're topping all the national polls, of course.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The UK polls, most by double digits, its Farage looks like it will easily become the next prime minister with the Reform UK government.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That in and of itself is a political earthquake.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We haven't seen anything like that in the century.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It would be either conservatives or labor.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Reformers, of course, explicitly unionists.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's Scottish manifesto rejected independence.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They argued that there was no appetite for another referendum any time soon and they pledged policies intended to make Scotland more economically successful inside the UK.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So here's where we're seeing the clash.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And the clash ironically is over two, not one, but two, nationalist populist visions.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: One that is more civic nationalist and pro-union, while the other is more ethno-nationalist and pro-sassession.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So one sees nationalism as a case for union, where the other sees nationalism as a case for separation.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But the key here is like we've been arguing for 10 years straight on this channel, either way, nationalism wins.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The world is becoming more and more nationalists and in some cases that involves a clash between unionists and separatists, both appealing to nationalist populist sentiment.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the real significance of this card of agreements just signed the other day.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't break up the United Kingdom today.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: but it makes it absolutely clear that the national's populace impulses that are winning the day in the UK actually work in two opposite directions.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The labor conservative order that held Britain together for generations is collapse, but no one knows exactly what will replace it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: A renewed populace united kingdom or four nations go in their separate ways.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: has only, just, be gone.
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