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Football at Four: Updating Eagles Plan at EDGE · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Monday the twenty fourth, but that means this is my
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Speaker 1: last chance for football at four. This is my last
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Speaker 1: chance for Jeff Mosher. I'm taking a little time off
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Speaker 1: from the show as we are heading to the Babe
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Speaker 1: Ruth World Series. We're hoping to do well up there,
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Speaker 1: to watch the game on Saturday night when the Eagles
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Speaker 1: play the Ravens most So let's get into some of
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Speaker 1: the things we're watching for. And I want to start
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Speaker 1: off with Vic Fangio from yesterday talking about Jonathan Gernard.
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Speaker 1: I want to get your level of concern for Grenard.
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Speaker 1: We did you know figure that he would miss time,
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Speaker 1: but he said he's still a ways way. Probably won't
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Speaker 1: see him in training camp, he started to worry and
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Speaker 1: wonder if he will be ready for Washington in week one.
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Speaker 2: Well more so if yeah, a little bit. I mean,
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Speaker 2: obviously the peck and the shoulder. If it's that we
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Speaker 2: don't know which peck that he injured, but if it's
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Speaker 2: the same peck on the side that he had the
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Speaker 2: shoulder injury last year, that's not great. Sometimes things can
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Speaker 2: be connected.
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Speaker 3: In that way.
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Speaker 2: You know, look at Nolan Smith junior, right, He's had
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Speaker 2: the shoulder issues that he's not not major ones, but
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Speaker 2: then he's torn his triceps right, and he's kind of
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Speaker 2: had those recurring triceps injuries. So you always worry about
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Speaker 2: one thing that leads to another when the two muscle
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Speaker 2: groups are are close or connected.
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Speaker 3: And yes, as Vic Fangio was saying, he's going to basically.
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Speaker 2: Not play at all or not practice at all a
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Speaker 2: training camp, which puts.
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Speaker 3: In jeopardy what if he'll be able to play in
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Speaker 3: week one.
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Speaker 2: And how much he might be able to play week
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Speaker 2: one if he does make it back to practice before then.
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Speaker 2: So you know, it kind of looks you it makes
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Speaker 2: you back to square one as far as this time
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Speaker 2: last year when they really didn't have that third guy,
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Speaker 2: and you know they were they were using Josh Ruchi
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Speaker 2: and they're using Ocelari a little bit.
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Speaker 3: But it was really hunting Nolan Smith.
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Speaker 2: And Smith can be sporadic, and Hunt was very good
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Speaker 2: and he's having a great camp. But you really, this
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Speaker 2: thing works with your three main edge rushers, and so yeah,
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Speaker 2: I think there's some reason to be concerned about the
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Speaker 2: injuries that that Grenard has been dealing with.
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Speaker 1: For the people who don't even know Jonathan Garnard, they've
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Speaker 1: never even seen him. They made a trade for him.
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Speaker 1: They got two third They gave up two third round picks,
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Speaker 1: one this year one for next year. He is do
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Speaker 1: you think supposed to be their top edge rusher.
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Speaker 2: Of course, I mean he's you know, for two straight
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Speaker 2: before last year, he had twenty four and a half
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Speaker 2: sacks between twenty and twenty three. In twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 2: he was a two time Pro Bowl edge He was
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Speaker 2: you know, when you've talked about some of the better
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Speaker 2: pass rushers ed rushers.
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Speaker 3: In the league, his name was up there, you know.
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Speaker 2: And that's why the Eagles went out and pursued him
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Speaker 2: when they didn't bring back Jollen Phillips, because they felt
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Speaker 2: like they needed the sure thing.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: They love the growth and the development of Jaelex Hunt,
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Speaker 2: but he's still learning and growing into the position.
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Speaker 3: Right. They like Nolan Smith Junior, a good run defender, a.
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Speaker 2: Guy who flashes at times in the pass rush, but
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Speaker 2: they needed the consistent guy that they've always had, right
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Speaker 2: going back years where there was a trend Cole or
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Speaker 2: a Hassan Reddick or you know somebody whose name I'm
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Speaker 2: probably forgetting now, but they've always flourished when they've had
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Speaker 2: that number one kind of guy.
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Speaker 1: So Ebadi at Panessa are two guys that are veters
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Speaker 1: they brought in. They brought two guys in last year,
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Speaker 1: o Jalai and Ouch. Do these guys have a bigger
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Speaker 1: impact in your mind than those two guys did?
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Speaker 2: And that was a big discussion in between Adam and
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Speaker 2: I on the Inside the Birds podcast today.
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Speaker 3: That dropped is there are.
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Speaker 2: Certain things going on in camp that aren't necessarily due
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Speaker 2: to performance that may or may not impact the roster
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Speaker 2: construction and certainly the edge group for sure. First of all,
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Speaker 2: Vic may have to come out of the three man shell.
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Speaker 2: If Grenard's not really one hundred percent or even ready
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Speaker 2: to play by week one, it's gonna have to lean
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Speaker 2: on both Ebikehetty, Yeah, Ebiketty to go with the other two.
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Speaker 2: And then maybe even a fourth edge rusher if that person,
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Speaker 2: whether it's Epinessa or somebody else.
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Speaker 3: I don't know who else would be, but just you know.
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Speaker 2: Gives them good reps and good snaps and feels like
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Speaker 2: that person should get on the field, and that might
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Speaker 2: mean from you know how we always say the fifty
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Speaker 2: three man roster that at the end of camp is
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Speaker 2: so overrated because it changes the next day. You know,
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Speaker 2: there's the initial fifty three and then there's the actual
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Speaker 2: fifty three for week one, and then the Reegles play
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Speaker 2: so much roster tango with the practice and elevations that
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Speaker 2: by week four or five it's a completely different fifty
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Speaker 2: three there. And so they may keep some players on
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Speaker 2: the initial fifty three that they're only keeping because they
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Speaker 2: need to get through a few weeks. We'll have this
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Speaker 2: discussion a tight end. I'm sure that they have to
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Speaker 2: get through until certain guys are ready to play.
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Speaker 1: Interesting there. Jeff Mosher Football for Inside the Birds podcast.
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Speaker 1: You can download the new Inside of the Birds podcast
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Speaker 1: on all podcasting platforms and you know we're looking at
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Speaker 1: the edge spot because Jalx Hunt, Nolan Smith, those guys
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Speaker 1: are their third years. Now let's say Grenard how to
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Speaker 1: start the year on the pup list and wasn't ready.
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Speaker 1: Do you like what they have with Hunt and Smith?
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Speaker 1: Is that a good enough tandem to get the season
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Speaker 1: started or do you think they might have to then
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Speaker 1: think about bringing somebody else in?
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Speaker 2: No, I think well, first of all, I look at
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Speaker 2: everything from a four man rush standpoint, not just an
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Speaker 2: edge rush, right. And obviously, if Jalen Carter is playing
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Speaker 2: at his level, his best level, and so far in
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Speaker 2: camp he has been playing at a very high level.
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Speaker 2: And you have Moro Ajomo there. But with Carter and
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Speaker 2: a Jomo and Davis, Carter's going to occupy a lot
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Speaker 2: of double teams. I'm confident in guys like Jealox Hunt
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Speaker 2: and Nolan Smith Junior to be able to beat man
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Speaker 2: on man blocking against most offensive tackles. But you still
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Speaker 2: are in the same position without a guy like Grenard
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Speaker 2: that you were in last year prior to the Jalen
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Speaker 2: Phillips arrival. Now, now Jalox Hunt has had a really
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Speaker 2: nice camp. I you know me, I don't take anything
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Speaker 2: I see in camp and try to project it to
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Speaker 2: be bigger than it is.
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Speaker 3: But I do think it was.
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Speaker 2: I think he's been a year ahead since he got
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Speaker 2: into the league in twenty twenty four. He was a
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Speaker 2: development project third round pick. By the end of the years,
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Speaker 2: he's playing in the Super Bowl. Last year, he leads
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Speaker 2: the defense in interceptions in sacks, right, So he's not
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Speaker 2: a developmental prospect anymore.
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Speaker 3: He's learning and growing.
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Speaker 2: So I do expect that Jalox Hunt is going to
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Speaker 2: be a better version of himself than he even was
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Speaker 2: last year. But nonetheless, when you don't have John than
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Speaker 2: if he gets hurt, for example, or if Nolan Smith
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Speaker 2: gets hurt, then then what do you have, Right, If
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Speaker 2: Grenard's not playing one hundred percent or playing, then all
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Speaker 2: of a sudden you're down to Jillix Hunt and what
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Speaker 2: aj Panessa or Arnold Mcheny.
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Speaker 3: That's that's not enough, all right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because uh, you know, Epenesy even know that he
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Speaker 1: could stay healthy, he's got that's another problem with him, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean he's yeah, right. I mean that's another thing too,
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Speaker 1: because they do have a lot of depth at tackle.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned, you know, it's it's more than just the
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Speaker 1: edge guys, because you have Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Borrow,
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Speaker 1: o Jomo. I guess Byron Young you throw him in there,
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Speaker 1: do you like him as a guy that will make
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Speaker 1: an impact.
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Speaker 2: I like Byron Young as a guy who's going to
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Speaker 2: be the fourth defensive tackle play when needed, supply, really good, steady.
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Speaker 3: Play when he's in there.
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Speaker 2: I don't look at him some kind of fearsome pass
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Speaker 2: rusher who's gonna somehow get into the four man rush,
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Speaker 2: but he's gonna play some snaps on the inside when needed,
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Speaker 2: and he you'd be most teams would be pretty fortunate
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Speaker 2: to have a fourth defensive tackle that can play at
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Speaker 2: Byron Young's level.
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Speaker 1: All right, yesterday, I know it's meaningless the depth chart,
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Speaker 1: but they had Cooper de Jene listed as the starter
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Speaker 1: at two different visions, but the backup Michael Carter was
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Speaker 1: one of the backups at the one spot, which was
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Speaker 1: the safety spot, and then at the backup nickel spot.
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Speaker 1: You saw it was kind of like a tandem of guys.
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Speaker 1: Michael Carter was also the backup there with Mac McWilliams.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know, does that say that they don't
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable yet with the nickel and the safety spot.
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Speaker 2: No. I think that they're trying to, in their acute way,
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Speaker 2: give you both bass and nickel, and what it might
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Speaker 2: look like. You know, the gene we know is going
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Speaker 2: to be a base defense safety alongside mccouba, and then
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Speaker 2: when they're in nickel, he's gonna slide to nickel, and
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Speaker 2: then it's.
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Speaker 3: Gonna either be Epps.
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Speaker 2: I think Epps was the name that was also on
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Speaker 2: the list with with Carter on that depth chart, So
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be either Epps or Michael Carter, and then
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Speaker 2: there's gonna be some dime where you're gonna have all
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Speaker 2: three of those guys on the field.
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Speaker 3: And that's what you know.
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Speaker 2: We spoke a while back because I think during the
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Speaker 2: OTAs a couple of guys on defense during their press
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Speaker 2: conferences said VIC was getting so comfortable with his personnel
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Speaker 2: because so many people are back, they're starting to do
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Speaker 2: different things.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's one of those things is that.
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Speaker 2: Vic is prepared to have a base, a nickel, a
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Speaker 2: dime and where in the past they didn't have enough
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Speaker 2: depth in the secondary to be able to be confident
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Speaker 2: throwing a dime out there. Now they are a big nickel,
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Speaker 2: for example, you know, with three safeties, so they've got
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of optionality to them.
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Speaker 3: They're deeper, there's still they still have questions.
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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to act like these guys are all
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Speaker 2: proven veterans, but Michael Carter's playing pretty good. It sounds like,
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Speaker 2: you know, Vick Convince, he's he's gonna play.
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Speaker 3: Some kind of role.
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Speaker 2: They we know Vic likes Marcus Epp. We know what
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Speaker 2: he wants to do using the gene as.
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Speaker 3: A multiple piece.
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Speaker 2: And now that they have Greek Wolland, who they they
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Speaker 2: believe they don't have to take off the field like
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Speaker 2: they did with the Dori Jackson. They can allow those
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Speaker 2: interior corners and interior defensive backs to play those roles.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Wolland's gonna be interesting because we're talking about this
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Speaker 1: in the three o'clock hour, how he could potentially be
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Speaker 1: like everybody's favorite guy, because it seemed that a Dori
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Speaker 1: Jackson was everybody's least favorite guy. So it's like, oh, Wollan,
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Speaker 1: It's like, is he going to be what everybody expects
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Speaker 1: him to be or hopes that he could be.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll be the favorite guy, and then the season
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Speaker 2: will start, and then they're gonna play what the commander
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Speaker 2: the Bears and the Rams week three or week four,
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Speaker 2: and you know, and as soon as he as soon
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Speaker 2: as he adds one of those games, everybody's.
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Speaker 3: Gonna be like, ah, you know, and start complaining. But
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Speaker 3: I think Greek Woland will be fine, all right.
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Speaker 1: Wollan obviously upgrade or new on that side. Everything else
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Speaker 1: on defense, like you said, Fanju has a lot of
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Speaker 1: the same toys to play with here, so that automatically
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Speaker 1: should make the defense better. That these guys are now
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Speaker 1: another year. Saint erbis. The only guy who's not is Grenard.
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Speaker 1: He's the only one and unfortunately he is hurt. Right now,
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Speaker 1: let's look at the offense where everything is the same
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Speaker 1: except for one guy, and that is Manion. Everybody else
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Speaker 1: is pretty much Now. You have some new wide receivers
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Speaker 1: obviously with aj Sder, but the offensive line is saying,
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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks seeing the tight ends the same, the running
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Speaker 1: backs the same. So Sean Mannion, give me your thoughts
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Speaker 1: so far on where this offense kind of looks like
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Speaker 1: it could go into Game number one, because I would
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Speaker 1: imagine they're not gonna show a whole heck of a lot,
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Speaker 1: and no one's gonna play well.
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they're not gonna show a whole heck
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Speaker 2: of a lot in terms of maybe some of the
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Speaker 2: creative things that Sean Manion might have in mind. But
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Speaker 2: they're not gonna hide the fact that they've been working
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Speaker 2: under center and wide zone running. That's just like staples
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Speaker 2: of the offense now that are gonna be a part,
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Speaker 2: a big part of the offense.
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Speaker 3: And that's not necessarily like something that they're not going
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Speaker 3: to just be like one hundred.
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Speaker 2: Percent shotgun and inside zone like they were in the past,
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Speaker 2: just because they're trying to conceal the fact that they're
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Speaker 2: you know, they're installing this new Shanahan McVeigh style of offense.
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Speaker 2: So you'll see elements of under center, you'll see elements
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Speaker 2: of the wide zone.
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Speaker 3: They need to practice it.
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Speaker 2: They need to they need to practice it and execute it,
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Speaker 2: in particular against a team that they haven't been you know,
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Speaker 2: a new defense, a team that they haven't been on
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Speaker 2: the field against all the time. So for people who
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Speaker 2: have wanted to see that, who haven't been able to
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Speaker 2: come to training camp, like you used to. I think
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Speaker 2: it'll be pretty interesting against the Ravens. You'll actually get
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Speaker 2: to see some of these concepts that we've been talking
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Speaker 2: about on the radio here for.
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Speaker 1: A while, which is a lot more under center. But
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Speaker 1: but I mean, you would imagine they're still going to infiltrate,
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Speaker 1: and they've kind of hinted at this that they will
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Speaker 1: still infiltrate some of the things that worked under Nick
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Speaker 1: in all the previous incarnations of this offense.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, very few coaches, coordinators, played
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Speaker 2: callers just do one thing right. In fact, like the
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Speaker 2: Rams are known for being under center a lot, you
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Speaker 2: know lately with the last few years. Right, they do
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Speaker 2: run shotgun, though it's not like there are one hundred
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Speaker 2: percent under center.
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Speaker 3: Same thing with.
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Speaker 2: You know, other teams that do it, like the forty
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Speaker 2: nine Ers. The Packers, to me are a really good
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Speaker 2: study for what the Eagles are going to try to
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Speaker 2: look like because the Packers, more.
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Speaker 3: So than the Rams and the Niners and other Shanahan.
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Speaker 2: Style teams, they they still go shotgun a decent amount,
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Speaker 2: almost like maybe fifty I don't know if how the
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Speaker 2: numbers are, but they'll still gravitate between eleven personnel and
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Speaker 2: twelve personnel maybe a little bit more than the Rams
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Speaker 2: do or the Niners, and these.
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Speaker 3: They will they will run RPOs.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just Matt Laflores has been a little
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Speaker 2: bit more adaptable than what Shanahan and McVeigh do. And
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Speaker 2: that's where Manion came from, which is why I'm saying, like,
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Speaker 2: you know, when you watch practice the Eagles practice right now,
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Speaker 2: it's not like seventy percent of their snaps are under
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Speaker 2: it's not like seventy five percent of their runs are
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Speaker 2: wide zone runs.
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Speaker 3: They're still doing things that they did in the.
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Speaker 2: Past that were successful, because why would you not, you know,
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Speaker 2: like tush push and other things. The other day at
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Speaker 2: training camp, I saw a play that you've seen a
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Speaker 2: million times. He goes around where Sekwon Barkley motions out
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Speaker 2: of the backfield, the linebacker follows him. Now they're in
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Speaker 2: spread five out, and then Hertz takes a snap and
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Speaker 2: runs up the middle because there's really only one block
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Speaker 2: linebacker left the block and then the guard center kicks
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Speaker 2: out the block him right. And we saw that in
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Speaker 2: training camp. So those are the kind of things that
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Speaker 2: you're still going to continue to see.
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Speaker 1: Uh, Jeff, you mentioned Barkley, he doesn't. It almost seems
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Speaker 1: like he's a forgotten guy. I mean, one year he's
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Speaker 1: the guy, in the next year he's I don't even
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Speaker 1: know what you want to call what he was last year.
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Speaker 1: So what what kind of role does he have? Do
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Speaker 1: you see for him this year?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, I've been struggling with where I'm you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm getting ready for my fantasy football drafts, my rankings
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Speaker 2: over at Philly Voice, and me and Evan Macey are
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Speaker 2: doing a little ADP debates, you know, whether we think
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Speaker 2: we're ahead of market, behind Mark or at market on
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Speaker 2: certain guys based on their ADP. And I've struggled a
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Speaker 2: little bit with Saquan. I do believe he'll have a
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Speaker 2: better year than last year. I don't know if it'll
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Speaker 2: look like it what did two years ago. I expect
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Speaker 2: Tank Bigsby to have a little bit more of a
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Speaker 2: role than he did in the year's past, but that
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Speaker 2: shouldn't stop Saquon from having a good year. But I
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Speaker 2: also am and we have talked about this. You cannot
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Speaker 2: dismiss the amount of work that this man, this running
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Speaker 2: back has had the last year's over seven hundred and
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Speaker 2: fifty touches. I believe between you know, carrying the ball,
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Speaker 2: catching the ball, playoffs in regular season, and he ain't
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Speaker 2: a spring chicken. So I definitely think Saquon can bounce
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Speaker 2: back from last year. I definitely in camp have seen
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Speaker 2: that he still has explosive moves. I do think elements
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Speaker 2: of the new offense will help him. But the guy's
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Speaker 2: got a lot of toll. You go look at running
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Speaker 2: backs who have carried or touched the ball as much
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Speaker 2: as he has over the last two years, and you
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Speaker 2: start to see sharp decline.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, obviously Bigsby the backup running back.
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Speaker 1: A lot of times people are like, why not more him?
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Speaker 1: You started to hear that last year, and I wonder
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Speaker 1: if this offense has a bigger role for him.
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Speaker 2: I wonder too, I imagine it will. I think it should.
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Speaker 2: Otherwise it's a waste of talent. I mean, you give
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Speaker 2: up two draft picks. I know they weren't like third
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Speaker 2: and fourth round picks, but you did give up two
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Speaker 2: draft picks.
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Speaker 3: For the guy.
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Speaker 2: And it's not like he's, you know, just because he can.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't just because he can also return kicks. I
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Speaker 2: mean he's a good running back. His numbers, Like.
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Speaker 1: Every time the Eagles at a guy who has returned
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Speaker 1: a kicker a punt in their life, that's like the
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Speaker 1: new guy. It hasn't they haven't used that guy in
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Speaker 1: that role in forever.
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Speaker 2: You know, we don't make fun of the Eagles enough
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Speaker 2: because it's it's fun to do. But I'm sure fans
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Speaker 2: don't want to beat him up too much. But we
17:05
Speaker 2: don't make fun of them enough for that whole Avery
17:07
Speaker 2: Williams thing from last year. Like if you remember the
17:10
Speaker 2: first Nick Sirianni press conference after the free agent period,
17:15
Speaker 2: that's the first guy he mentioned.
17:17
Speaker 3: Oh, Avery Williams. This guy has been a running.
17:19
Speaker 2: Back, a cornerback, a punt returner, a specialist. He's a
17:23
Speaker 2: gadget weapon. The guy doesn't even make the freaking team.
17:29
Speaker 1: Who was the Ohio State running back? They got a
17:31
Speaker 1: little love and then never made it.
17:35
Speaker 2: Trey Shermon, listen, man, we're both old enough to remember
17:39
Speaker 2: when Braxton Miller came to the Eagles.
17:41
Speaker 3: I think there are even be what the Chip Kelly
17:42
Speaker 3: are speaking of it.
17:44
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of which, who's returning kicks and
17:46
Speaker 1: put on this team?
17:49
Speaker 2: Uh? You still well, you have Shipley and you have
17:52
Speaker 2: you have Shipley and who my friend Bigsby there as
17:55
Speaker 2: potential kick returners.
17:57
Speaker 3: Punt returners should be interesting.
17:59
Speaker 2: I mean, Marquise Brown can do it, Cooper to Jan
18:02
Speaker 2: can do it, but I think Vick would app I
18:04
Speaker 2: think Vick would probably strangle Nick Sirianni if he put
18:07
Speaker 2: him in there. We have to see who makes the
18:11
Speaker 2: team because we know, I know he hasn't done a
18:15
Speaker 2: whole lot of it, but I believe we've seen Elijah
18:19
Speaker 2: Moore return a few punts, so I don't know how
18:22
Speaker 2: they feel about it, but yeah, it's Britain Covey's been hurt.
18:25
Speaker 2: You can certainly have Britain Covey on the practice squad
18:28
Speaker 2: and elevate him for the first few weeks and.
18:30
Speaker 3: You know, as you look for somebody else to return punts.
18:33
Speaker 2: I would venture to say, mkay lemon, but he actually
18:36
Speaker 2: has to get out on the field first before he
18:38
Speaker 2: can return kick some punts.
18:40
Speaker 3: So it's a fair question.
18:42
Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's something to watch Saturday night to see
18:45
Speaker 1: if they start to put some breadcrumbs out there for
18:48
Speaker 1: that for special teams stuff. And obviously that's a key
18:52
Speaker 1: on who makes the team at the back end, right.
18:55
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got a receiver who doesn't do
18:56
Speaker 1: any of that stuff for a guy who does do
18:58
Speaker 1: some of that stuff, that plays a factor and very
19:01
Speaker 1: interesting to see how the tight end thing. You kind
19:03
Speaker 1: of hinted at that earlier tight end e J. Stowers,
19:07
Speaker 1: is he going to have a role on this team.
19:09
Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about that on Monday show.
19:10
Speaker 1: Grant Calcina was just finally be his last season here
19:16
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. It all starts on Saturday night in Baltimore
19:20
Speaker 1: against the Ravens where the Birds preseason game number one.
19:25
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to some real football back and it's
19:27
Speaker 1: like that first snap, that first drive, and then you're like, Okay,
19:30
Speaker 1: I'm ready for the real thing.
19:31
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, it's around the corner. But hey,
19:34
Speaker 2: you got bigger fish to fry. Good luck with your babe,
19:37
Speaker 2: Ruth baseball team. We wish you the best from inside
19:41
Speaker 2: the Birds and when you get back, maybe if you
19:45
Speaker 2: if you got nothing going on like the Phillies, I
19:47
Speaker 2: feel like they could.
19:48
Speaker 3: Use a little bit new blood again at manager.
19:51
Speaker 2: And you know, your all your success mic that you've
19:53
Speaker 2: had throughout the years, eh, might want to throw your
19:56
Speaker 2: hat in the ring.
19:57
Speaker 1: This team looks tired.
19:58
Speaker 3: Man.
19:58
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could give him a spot,
20:00
Speaker 1: but who this is a rough watch right now. Seven
20:03
Speaker 1: to one, uh, six to one in the seventh.
20:05
Speaker 3: I should say they've been a rough watch since coming
20:07
Speaker 3: out of the All Star.
20:09
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, brother, Well, we'll catch up with you
20:12
Speaker 1: when we get back.
20:12
Speaker 3: Thank you, have a great one man. Take care