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PODCAST: Episode 763 - Who Was Kicked Off the Black Sabbath and Ozzy Osbourne Farewell Show · Ghost Cult Magazine Podcast

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None. What's up everybody?
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Late night TV here with a little unexpected live stream.
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I hope everybody's good out there.
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It is almost the end of the week.
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It is late Wednesday night, almost Thursday here in
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California. I'm sure everyone else in the
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world, it is overnight or early in the morning.
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seltzer. There's a pretty good pop there
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and jam on the thing we are going to talk about.
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We've been heavily covering this back to the beginning.
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Oh, the century maybe. And I wanted to take some time
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to talk about something we got asked a lot of questions about
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is who we thought got kicked off.
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And I think we now know who was kicked off the show by Sharon
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Osbourne. We're going to talk all about
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that. This is not to necessarily
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besmirch anybody. Look, I love watching this
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thing. I got choked up seeing Ozzy get
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choked up. We are have seen things never
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imagined in rock and metal history.
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Hey, somebody's here the electric compound.
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Holy shit. Why are you up so late, mother?
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Sorry, I'm going on kind of late.
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This kind of came to me over my leftover Taco Tuesday dinner on
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Wednesday night. Thank you very much.
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I've been wrapping this shirt. I I actually literally came from
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I did the podcast earlier tonight that I recorded from my
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other podcast relation musical podcast.
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Dennis is here and Dillinger is here.
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Still can't get the Instagram to work, but thanks for showing up
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even if you can't stay. Hunter is also here.
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So yeah, man. I went from doing my Wednesday
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night podcast recording. That'll go live on Friday.
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Tomorrow is the weekly ritual. I will go usually early in the
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afternoon. Eddie Live is here.
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What up, What up? Thanks for watching.
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We've been heavily covering this back to the beginning concert.
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I did a preview of what I forecasted the show to be.
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I was mostly right, except that I didn't have.
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I felt like maybe everybody that was a guest singer would show up
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and sing with Ozzie and Black Sabbath.
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That did not happen. But otherwise, I thought it was,
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you know, not completely without hitches, but all things
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considering raising $200 million for charity, 5 million people
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around the world streaming this, and probably more than that
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sharing it with their friends. Larry, Cindy bro is here.
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And generally speaking, I think it was a marvelous, wonderful,
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amazing thing that happened for Rocky Metal.
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However, it is not without controversy, and here's why.
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I think it's very clear to see that there were some shenanigans
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planning an event like this. If you're watching on Twitch,
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thank you. For those watching on YouTube,
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thank you. Feel free to like and subscribe.
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We follow back if you've got like a public profile or a
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public account. Some people are just lurkers,
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you know what I'm saying. But it's clear that some
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shenanigans happened behind the scenes.
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Sharon is a master. Sharon Osbourne, Ozzy's wife and
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manager for the, you know, the entirety of his solo career, 45
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years. You know, she's a shrewd
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customer. She learned from the best her
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dad. It was like a gangster who, it's
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interestingly like Ozzy and Sabbath always decried how, you
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know, Don Arden and Sharon's dad robbed them of all their money
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and never paid them and this that other thing.
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And then Ozzy, you know, went on with Sharon, who had a
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completely different man. I'm going to tell you, we went
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over this in depth and we already did a video the other
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night, a live round table review, which is getting a lot
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of traction. And we talked about all this,
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whose guest appearances who was not good.
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I think Travis Barker, it's not so much that he made no sense.
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He wasn't he didn't prepare. He clearly didn't play a good
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solo. And even Chad Smith, who was
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right next to him, just was like, OK, guy like made a face
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at him on international global live stream.
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What a putz. The second dumbest person of the
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day next to Sid proposing to Kelly on her dad's big day.
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What a fucking bonehead. But also, I think Billy Corgan
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was straight up terrible. He was decent for breaking the
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law. Nice to get a Jewish priest
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cover. We're going to talk about Jewish
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priest in a minute. But fucking just Billy Corgan,
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terribly miscast vocally to do Sabbath songs.
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This guy's one of the greatest guitar players of all time.
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Why is he not playing a guitar solo and a guitar?
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Like, why is he not have a guitar on who's you know, again,
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Tom Morello, some of the questionable moves, but
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generally overall was wonderful and amazing.
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But we're going to talk about who was kicked off and who I
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think we can definitively say who was kicked off now.
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I think we can, you know, Lombardo should have been
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invited, but again, maybe awkward with Slater, you know,
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having Slater is more important than just Dave Lombardo.
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And those offences are not ever getting mended.
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We talked often about that and I have an interview on YouTube and
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podcasts with Dave and Paula Lombardo and I hope to talk to
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him again. He has a lot of new music coming
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along the way. But anywho, before we get into
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that, if you're feeling generous, feel free to drop us a
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Morgan Evans, a ghost cultist, also from the Metal Riot blog,
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also a a phenomenal activist and musician themselves.
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We're just talking about who was kicked off the Aussie show.
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It's been a question that has been, you know, get it gotten to
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me in DMS. It came up in our show who we
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thought wasn't invited, who was disinvited before we ever heard
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who was invited. Curious omissions, like very
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drastic, blatant omissions from this thing that just boggled the
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fucking mind. Again, this is late night and I
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appreciate people joining because, you know, maybe, just
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maybe it wasn't going to be, you know, for everybody else.
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So I made a little deck here. And just in case you you
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dilloned your comments here, their bands in the UK bound to
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the older Sambathis Cathedral. I just it was a metal elite
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event and I just feel like the Stoner doom genre, which
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obviously owes everything to Sam and everything and everything to
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Tony. Those bands are just too small.
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I think to not have a High On Fire, to not have a sleep, to
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not have cathedral, to not have Electric Wizard.
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Orange Goblin is quitting at the end of the year.
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Like they would have made perfect sense to open things up
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beside Mastodon and Rival Sons. But I just think like Sharon is
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a person like most current moguls in social media and music
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industry that they base everything on streaming.
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If you look at the lineup, how Gojira's humongous last year
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because of the Olympics had them going ahead of Alice In Chains.
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There's no Earth where where Gojira is more important than
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Alice In Chains. As much as I fucking love Gojira
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and I'm so proud of them and they kicked so much ass, but I
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just think like, yeah, it's a little weird to just not have
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any. I will tell you that if you
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watch the whole live stream, they did have little vignettes
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on underground Birmingham bands and almost all of them were punk
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or Stoner doom or psychedelic rock.
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So all these things are all disabled, a little bit of punk,
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you know, certain things that punk borrowed.
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There was a lot of interesting diversity there among those
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bands. So I think it was very a very
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nice slice of things. So I made this graphic and I'll
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take myself off the screen for a second.
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And again, thanks for everybody watching on TikTok and thanks
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for everybody on YouTube. There seemed to be quite a bunch
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of people here for late night considering I didn't plan this
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well, but let's just take a look at this thing for a second.
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So I made this graphic and who is on the graphic just to call
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it out. Obviously, Rob Alfred, we're
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going to talk about that. Matt Heaphy of Trivium in a
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weird gold jacket. Vince Neil, say no more, and
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Slipknot all on the cover. But there was a whole bunch of
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people I could have considered, you know, and I think it's super
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interesting. So you know, this, we, this is
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our review. If you're like to watch our
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recap, I invited experts from the metal world to come join me.
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Something like 100 combined years or 150 combined years of
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music experience on this podcast that we did the other day.
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This live stream, which you can now watch or listen to on our
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podcasts, where we review the entire show for two hours.
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And I brought a musician in to comment on some of the musical
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things and some very interesting top things brought up about
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maybe Ozzy singing with backing tapes and all kinds of things.
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But, and you know, again, I know I'm a hater, but Sammy Hagar
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also was fucking straight up terrible.
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How you going to not learn the song?
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How you going to come sing at this tribute concert and not
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even really learn the song? Well, you're a Dick.
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I never liked this guy. I am straight Van Halen all the
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time. David Lee Roth.
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Only not Ben Hagar. I'm not saying he Can't Sing.
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I'm not saying he's not great. I'm not saying he didn't write a
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bunch of banger songs. I'm not saying Ben Hagar doesn't
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have some good ones. But what a schmuck.
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Anyway, so we had that. I had done a preview.
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that. There's our if you want to
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You know, this thing gave us some amazing stuff.
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Well, you know, Hatfield sitting with Ozzy, was he drunk?
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I mean, it's entirely upon his whole personality is fucking
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tequila, right? Like, I know a lot of people are
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high, but like, you know, I don't think he was drunk.
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I think he was unprepared. He was talking about he like
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leaked that he was doing flying high again months ago and he
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showed up not prepared. It's the same thing with Barker.
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I don't have a problem that Travis Barker is there.
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He's friends with Kelly. He's a Uber producer.
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He brings in the youth. I get all of you, even though
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he's like 50, he brings in the youth quotient with Blink.
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But like guy was not prepared. How are you going to show up and
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just try to fake your way through something because you
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know how good you are? Whack, whack.
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Disappointing, disappointing. But we got these like special
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moments that we may never see again.
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Had field with Ozzy, you know, Ozzy gave Metallica their first
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big break in their first arena tour.
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Was opening for Ozzy on the Ultimate Centaur and Metallica
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was on Master of Puppets. It was one of Cliff's last
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tours. You know, this amazing coverage
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in the British media and the worldwide global media to get
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the consciousness of metal in the global media yet again for
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the first time in a long time. I think it was pretty fucking
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amazing. What did these two talk about,
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Axel and James Henfield, like hey guy, I haven't seen you in
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32 years since you left Montreal after I got burned and went
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home, went to the hospital in an ambulance and you didn't come
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out on stage and cause a racket. Dude, Jake was great.
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I was kind of sad that they gave him an out of tune guitar.
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And let's be honest, Sharon doesn't want to acknowledge
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anybody that is not Ozzy and Ozzy alone.
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So I think Jake was a mercy, you know, thing because of the
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sympathy for him getting shot last year and everybody else has
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been whitewashed out of history. I don't know why Blasco wasn't
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invited on base. And granted, it's great to have
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Inez there. He just feels right.
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But you know, Mandy Castillo has passed on no acknowledgement of
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Dio, no acknowledgement of Tony Martin, despite this best
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selling box set that came out last year.
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Ian Gillan is very much alive and could have came out and sang
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Zero Hero with a superstar band, repeated songs when there's
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plenty of other songs that could have got played.
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Lord of This World is my favorite Black Sabbath song.
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Could have seen somebody do that, you know?
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But there's just in terms of numbers, there's just not enough
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big bands. And we'll talk about that in a
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second. But look at all these amazing
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things that happened, this incredible lineup, all things
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considering. I thought the live stream was
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very enjoyable. No Vinny Appa say well again, no
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Dio, no Dio, Dio whitewashed out of the band entirely, even by
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Tony, you know, just not even a mention, not a video.
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Like one of those All Star groups could have just played
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Dio stuff and everybody would have been satisfied.
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Like, it's very shameful. It's very shameful.
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But again, that's shit. I really attribute this all to
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Sharon, to be honest. And even Anthrax.
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I was pretty convinced if anybody was going to represent
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for Dio it would have been Anthrax because they are well
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known for covering Heaven and Hell Live and obviously Joey
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worships Dio. Dio is his hero.
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But anyway, so you know, we got this amazing thing, but like
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always, like, look at Ozzy's happiness, man.
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Like, you know what the I I want that to be my lasting memory of
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him or the last time I saw him and he was pretty good, you
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know, But there's this shadow over this whole thing that is
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like Sharon, Oh, this is a thing.
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Like, you know, the broadcast cut off while the lights were
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still down on Ozzy and those guys came back out and gave him
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a cake and took a proper bow. And the live stream just went to
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black. Fucking stupid.
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Maybe it was a surprise and nobody knew except the band or
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Sharon, but like, you got to tell somebody not to cut away.
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But anyway, let's get to it. Here is the rub, right?
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I mean, and this is another one. Like Tom Morello and Adam Jones
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grew up in a little town outside of Chicago in the 80s and here
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they are together in the world's biggest stage and the biggest
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metal event of all time. Ronnie would have showed up to
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this event if he was still, but 100% he would have volunteered
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to go and pay tribute to Ozzy. He I mean, like in I know he was
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a very prideful guy. If you read the Ronnie book,
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it's definitely his ego submarine him several times in
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his career. But like, yeah, he was a very
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loving and and, you know, respectful guy overall.
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I know he didn't want to go on before Sabbath before Ozzie when
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he had to. You know that story box run fast
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this year. Jeff Wallace Rio is back.
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We've seen you before here, friend.
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But anyway, so really, really, really, let's get into it now.
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So Sharon, who looks like a fucking extra reject from nip
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tuck here. She looks horrible, but OK, you
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know, it's kind of like that I the beholder episode from
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twilight zone. So she looks like to me.
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I may make that joke again tomorrow.
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Dillinger Compton, I can't not see this.
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My girlfriend sent me this from the last podcast on the left
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here. Never seen in the same room
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Sharon Osbourne and Lady Elaine Fairchild from Mr. Rogers
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neighborhood. Oh my God, right in the
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childhood, right in the fucking childhood.
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But like, you know, Sharon is, you know, I'm thrilled that she
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made Ozzy a household name and made him rich beyond belief,
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considering he made no money because of her dad.
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And he really grew up in complete abject fucking poverty.
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So even when he had thought he had some money in the 80s, he
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was living on credit and loans and borrowed shit.
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And then his solo career took off and that's what made him
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wealthy. I think there was a point where
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Ozzy said, I want to thank you all for supporting us because
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thanks for all supporting us because we live the lifestyle we
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have. Well, I hate to tell you, Ozzie,
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most of the band does not have the same lifestyle Ozzie and
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Sharon have. They have like Mill, you know,
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hundreds of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars compared
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to the rest of Sabbath. And that's including Naomi,
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who's very well off. And I'm sure Geezer and Bill are
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not poor at this point after the late run of Sabbath in heaven
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and hell, Bill's career and Geezer's career and Tommy's
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endorsements. But you know, she's been brutal
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to deal with for the music business and also as a
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celebrity, a terrible celebrity, but OK, Who got kicked out?
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I love this MO throwing out this guy from The Simpsons.
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You know, it was a rumor about Sandbar.
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It's coming up. It's coming up.
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It's not only true, it was supposed to happen.
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So we'll talk about it. So right off the bat, who was
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kicked out? I think it's Mötley Crüe.
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And I know that Nikki went on and was like thank you to Ozzy
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for giving us Ozzy and Sharon gave us our first break, Shout
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at the Devil tour, blah blah blah, snorted the ants.
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But even just recently there was like fucking drama between
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Sharon and crew. You know, the Mötley Crüe the
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Dirt promo material didn't have pictures of the cast who I
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thought did a great job, including MGK is actually should
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really pursue acting because he can't rap and he's marginal as a
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punk artist, even with Travis writing his stuff.
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And you know, she's like, why are you using the actor that
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looks like Ozzy in the promo material to promote the Dirt
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when Ozzy is a small part of the story or the film or the book?
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So I think it was crew. Now, I do know that Vince shown
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here. What, Vince No consonants, Neil,
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kick start my heart. For real.
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You know, I suffer from diabetes and I'm obese, so I'm not
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picking on an older guy getting old and not being able to be
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talented as he used to be or ever was.
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I don't think this was ever that good to begin with.
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He really should stop touring and stop performing live.
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You know that they canceled their appearance and a few shows
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and festivals that they were supposed to do this spring
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because Vince needed a procedure, hopefully some
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procedure on his voice. You think it was Danzig?
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Danzig came up in the other thing.
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I don't have Danzig on here and I'll tell you, I don't think
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Danzig really hates travelling. You have to ask why misfits
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haven't brought that reunion to Europe yet.
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As much as lucrative as it would be to do us just one go round of
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all the summer festivals, June to September, how much money
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Danzig would stand to make? Millions and millions of
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dollars. And he just hasn't done it
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because he hates travel and he hates Tori.
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He doesn't. He loves to perform.
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He says he doesn't like everything else that comes with
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it. So I don't have Ozzie in this.
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I don't want Danzig in here but like I know Danzig is a huge
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Sabbath on Aussie fan and he's done very good Sabbath covers
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before. We know about Wolfgang Van
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Halen, we know about Mammoth and we know Wolfgang.
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He's dropped the WBH now said that the Creed tour began the
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next day. Technically, it did not begin
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until today, but Wolfie said he just didn't want to have to go
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and do this thing. And then, you know, to the Creed
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tour is very important and they're releasing a new album
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soon. And he says that he took himself
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out of it. I don't think he was kicked out.
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I really don't. I think he legitimately stepped
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back from trying to do it. And then again, you know, it's
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always the pressure to be put on the stage to have to, you know,
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listen, the guy is brilliantly talented.
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Doesn't matter what he does, he's always going to get
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compared to his dad. That's why his music doesn't
20:53
sound like Van Halen. That's why he's forging his own
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path to do music that doesn't sound.
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You know, there's always like a little Van Halen in him because
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he's a Van Halen. And he learned from his dad how
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to shred and write and jam and be in a band.
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He was the musical director of, you know, the whole 2010's Van
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Halen tours with him on bass. And but he's just staunchly, you
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know, and it's always the pressure.
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He went to the Taylor Hawkins thing and he killed it.
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But like, you know, what kind of pressure he's on to to just be
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his dad. And if he fucks up, everybody's
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going to talk. Here's Wolfgang Van Halen
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fucking up eruption. He's never fucked up eruption.
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He's done eruption on the base on his Instagram, by the way,
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which is also like no for no insane with the harmonics and
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the tapping and everything. But it's tough.
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It's probably tough being in. So Judas Priest, You know that
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the day before this thing Judas Priest released, or two days
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before this, they released their own cover of War Pigs recorded
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in the studio. It's in their intro music every
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night they've been playing it live.
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Yeah, Maiden's coming up, bro. They were.
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We'll talk about them in a second.
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I agree. Maiden seemed like a no brainer.
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So Priest, you know, I don't know if fans know this.
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Most tours and especially festivals are booked over a year
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in advance. So especially when you see these
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tours getting cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances or
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whatever, we didn't get our pieces.
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Tours are booked a year ahead. Festivals are booked sometimes
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two years ahead. So a year and a half ago, over a
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year and a half ago, Judas Priest was approached to
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Headliner Festival where Scorpions was playing their 60th
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anniversary concert as a band in their hometown of Berlin.
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And they said, hey, Rob and Priest, would you come and be
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the support act right before Scorpions and maybe come out and
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do some songs with them? So they knew they couldn't get
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out of this thing. And it's probably like a Germany
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exclusive for all of Europe for for Priests on the tour.
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So then Sharon comes along a year ago after they already
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committed to this other thing and says, I know you were
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committed to this thing. You already announced it, but
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could you cancel that and come do our thing?
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And he they said, no, you know, there's there's penalties.
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You don't want to break relationships.
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So they recorded that song. They've recorded a video message
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during the stream. Ozzy, we love you.
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You know, we're from Birmingham. We love you.
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We're sorry we can't be there. Please, you know, I hope you
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enjoy our cover. We was in tribute to you guys
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and thank you. But like, you know, and then I
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think they were like, well, since we can't have priests, we
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can add KK and have KK do what we wanted priests to do, which
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was a set. And you know, where would priest
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be in that line up anyway? You wouldn't put them ahead of
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Metallica. I certainly wouldn't, you know,
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don't think they could go ahead of Slayer.
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Maybe a head of tool and before Slayer.
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I don't know, I don't know. And here's Maiden Dillinger
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compound. You know, the the rift with
23:57
Maiden still exists with Sharon and Steve and Bruce.
24:02
I was at the show Asfest 2005 where they egged Iron Maiden.
24:07
Now in fairness, I was aghast that Bruce was out here talking
24:10
shit on the Osbournes. Me and my friends were like what
24:13
the fuck is happening? He is dogging Ozzy and Sharon
24:17
from the stage during their set. Now I'm going to tell you, Iron
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Maiden came out with a legitimately Iron Maiden show at
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a traveling festival. They're set and they're fucking.
24:29
I mean, at one point Bruce, Bruce was like jumping off the
24:32
back top stage over the drum riser like 10 feet in the air.
24:37
They just looked incredible. They sounded incredible.
24:40
My friend, some of my friends who were not made in fans
24:43
strangely were like, this is insane.
24:45
I never knew this band was this good.
24:47
I was like, look how good they are.
24:48
And then Black Sabbath came out and to be honest, old ass Black
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Sabbath with just a red curtain and some fire standing perfectly
24:56
still look weak next to next to maiden.
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But maiden is a little younger than those guys a bit younger
25:03
actually, like 10 years younger than some cases or more.
25:05
And you know, like they had a lot more pep in their step.
25:09
But you know, Sharon, the infamous egging Sharon, Zach and
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other people egged Maiden cut the power on them.
25:16
Fuck with them. I I know it was beef.
25:19
It has remained beef. You know maiden has had beef
25:22
with Metallica. I assume there's a lot of love
25:24
there also, but you know, Maiden has called out Metallica many
25:28
times in the press saying that made this just a factually
25:32
better band. And as much as I love Iron
25:35
Maiden to the depth as you can see the Iron Maiden flag behind
25:37
me on the wall, and I hung up a few more of my flags behind me.
25:42
Ramones is prominently seen over my head there.
25:46
You know, I'm still going to take Metallica over Maiden in
25:48
most cases, even the mistakes that Metallica's made.
25:52
But yeah, Maiden should have been there.
25:53
And Maiden would have been absolutely before Slay, after
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Slayer and before Metallica, right?
25:59
Like, there's no way Maiden is going on in front of Metallica
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before Black Sabbath. Although the home field
26:05
advantage of England is a thing. And now I get into some other
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people. Jonathan Davis was announced.
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He was on the first poster, Jonathan Davis of Corn to be a
26:15
guest singer. Corn has opened for Ozzy.
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You know, they're, you know, Korn and huge reverent fans of
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metal. They love Metallica, they love
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Ozzy, they love Black Zim, they love classic rock bands.
26:32
And then Jonathan gave a video message where he was like,
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sorry, I can't be with you today, but thank you so much for
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everything. Gave Korn one of our first big
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breaks. This that the other thing.
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But very strange that Korn wasn't there or Jonathan Davis
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wasn't there. I think along the same lines, I
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know the System of a Down has a huge summer on tap with these
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handful of stadium shows, and they just did South America to
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these unbelievable crowds. And Surge tanky and lives in
27:02
Australia now and the rest of the band is in California in LA.
27:06
So maybe that's logistically not a thing like they need.
27:09
Surge needs time off in between these things that he doesn't
27:12
necessarily love doing. Also, similar to Danzig, Surge
27:16
doesn't want to be in stages forever.
27:18
But the money is just too much to turn down.
27:22
And then so here's Soundgarden. Here's a picture of Soundgarden.
27:25
Obviously, Chris Cornell is alive, not alive anymore.
27:29
Sharon Osbourne sat in an interview in June that they
27:34
added Soundgarden. The members of Soundgarden are
27:36
going to show up and play a set. She said it on one of these
27:41
British talk shows, maybe Piers Morgan, I don't remember.
27:50
And I think it's very interesting that Soundgarden has
27:52
squashed their beef with Cornell's second wife and that
27:56
Vicky and that hopefully the final Soundgarden album will get
28:02
completed and see the light of day the way Chris wanted.
28:06
There's also supposed to be a full Chris Cornell solo album,
28:09
plus of unreleased material that could be fashioned into an album
28:12
at some point. And I want to see these things
28:15
now that they got in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and then
28:18
no. And nothing they didn't show up
28:20
can fail. No would have been very
28:23
interesting with that collection of singers including Lizzie Hale
28:26
and and so many others that maybe could have did Soundgarden
28:29
justice. Rival Sons, Mastodon, Gojira,
28:34
Tool, all fans, William Duvall, all fans of Soundgarden and
28:39
friends of Soundgarden. And this would have been super
28:42
nice to have Soundgarden clearly a huge, the 2 bands that
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Soundgarden used to constantly talk about was Black Sabbath and
28:51
Black Play. So you know, those are the two
28:54
poles that that sound Gordon kind of lived between to them
28:58
and a little bit of beetles, which also Ozzy loves.
29:00
So you know, just strange. And then very coincidentally,
29:03
Matt Cameron retires from Pearl Jam on Monday, so or Sunday,
29:08
like, wow, you know, legitimately shocking.
29:13
I wonder if they'll call up Josh Freeze.
29:15
He's kind of too much of A drummer for Pearl Jam stuff.
29:17
But maybe this frees Matt up to do Soundgarden stuff in the
29:21
future if they were to reunite with a new singer.
29:23
Hey, STP did it, Alice In Chains did it.
29:27
Why not sound? I would like to see a very
29:29
competent, great singer come on and do it.
29:32
But you know, I know just like everything else, just like
29:35
Linkin Park, just like Alice In Chains, it's also tough.
29:39
This is maybe the biggest head scratcher of them all.
29:41
Slipknot is the biggest metal band in the world.
29:44
I don't understand why they are not here for this thing.
29:47
Like why is Corey in particular Slipknot?
29:50
I know Eloy was there, right? He played with Gojira for a
29:54
minute. There was like a little drum off
29:55
there, I think. And at least Corey could have
30:01
shown up, right? Like this is a thing that he
30:04
would have his name all over. Like he's covered both Ozzy and
30:08
Dio and Black Sabbath at different times.
30:13
And I don't understand, like, why is he not there now?
30:16
The only thing I can think of, I know that Slipknot has had a
30:18
very rigorous touring schedule for the last year and they have
30:22
more to come. And I know that Corey had the
30:25
personal stuff with his wife and some chick who was trying to
30:28
catfish him or whatever and sneer him in her vagina, going
30:34
so far as to put her phone number in his kids iPad.
30:37
Jesus Christ, what are you doing?
30:41
So maybe he's just circling the wagons and staying close to home
30:44
with his family when he's not on tour, you know, so she A, can
30:48
keep an eye on him and B, can show that he's being, you know,
30:51
a faithful person. I don't there's no evidence that
30:53
he was unfaithful. But you know, I can see how it
30:55
is. If your marriage is in a tough
30:57
spot, you don't want to be away from home as you know as as
31:00
little as possible. You want to be away.
31:01
So but just baffling that Corey at least or Slipknot, you know,
31:05
I know probably logistically would have been hard for
31:07
Slipknot to come out and just play 3 songs.
31:09
Their whole thing is a whole thing, but bizarre to me.
31:15
Like I just couldn't even like where is Corey Taylor?
31:17
Not only what does Corey Taylor think?
31:19
What where is Corey? Where is Slipknot?
31:21
Like where why were they not here?
31:24
And so, Megan, this has been kind of put down.
31:30
I don't know how an authority, how much of an authority Kelly
31:33
Osbourne is about this, but she said it wasn't.
31:37
She said it wasn't. Megan FI don't know that she
31:41
would know more than Sharon or Jack Gigi Fan 99999 is here.
31:45
What's up? What's up?
31:46
What's up? Mark Anderson is here.
31:47
Hello. Hello.
31:48
Good to see you again. Say hi and drop a comment.
31:51
Tell us if you watched the Black Sabbath thing, who you think was
31:54
kicked off. Dillinger thinks it's Danzig.
31:57
I don't have Danzig on this deck, but you know.
32:01
So Megan at this in the studio with Nashville making their
32:03
brand new album, first new album with team new Montessori a
32:07
winner son as lead guitarist. Dave is not loyal to people.
32:12
Scott James Lomenzo. I know Ellefson was added to
32:15
this Black Sabbath concert because Megadeth could not,
32:19
would not be there if David was. I don't think they would both
32:21
get invited as much as David. Ellefson is super well liked and
32:25
is very fond of me and I'm very fond of him and I appreciate
32:28
him. And you know, if I think the
32:32
only thing I can think of here is a the studio is booked and
32:35
that's the time for the record. And I think Megadeth is writing
32:40
a lot in the studio. You know, their new thing is to
32:42
sort of write most of a record and then go in and finish it
32:45
including like tweaks and things like that.
32:47
As Dave the producer. The last few albums is like in
32:50
the studio, some things take a different shape.
32:52
We have a long lengthy interview with Dirk Verburen with Omar.
32:57
My co-owner goes called Omar Cordy and he talked a lot about
33:00
how songs kind of change between the demo stage and the final
33:03
stage. But also like, you know, maybe
33:06
then the big 4 is there and that big four thing over does that
33:10
over Shadow Sabbath and Ozzy. Is Megadeth going to come out?
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What 3 songs would Megadeth play?
33:15
You know, what cover would they play?
33:19
I don't know. You know, I I like to think that
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Dave just turned it down because that's when the studio was
33:26
booked for and they are on a schedule to put a record out in
33:28
late 25 or early 26 probably. And that would have Kibosh that
33:34
you know, and he's not a young chicken anymore, young spring
33:38
chicken where he can fly around the world and just be OK.
33:40
We've seen him. He's a little, you know, he
33:42
still plays great. He's, you know, pretty good on
33:45
the vocals comparatively to his whole career.
33:47
But like, I'm sure it just takes a lot more energy out of me once
33:51
you've had debilitating disease like cancer, which he is cancer
33:54
free, but still fucked up. Trivium.
33:58
So this is 1 no one has been talking about that is bothering
34:01
me besides Slipknot and Corey that no one has been talking
34:04
about. If you look at the bands on the
34:07
first half of the bill, let's take out Rival Sons, who are a
34:10
little more popular in the UK than they are in the States or
34:13
anywhere else in the world, Europe.
34:15
In the UK, Rival Sun's a much bigger band, but OK, great band
34:17
and they did great. They were fucking a surprise to
34:20
a lot of people and I think they would great.
34:22
Manstadon, Gojira, Lamb of God, even Hailstorm, Trivium is more
34:28
popular than all of these bands in the USA.
34:33
They are a little more commercial and softer than Lamb
34:35
of God. They play just as technical and
34:37
heavy and thrashy and nothing. No Trivium.
34:42
They just finished a big tour. They're writing a record on
34:46
their own timetable in their own studio and the hangar.
34:48
They own the Airplane studio, whatever that is in Florida.
34:52
No Trivium, no Mac Heefy guys Beloved and Shred can vocalize,
34:57
you know Vocalist and Shred would have been an an inspired
35:00
choice. And why is this band not here?
35:03
I'm so shocked they weren't considered.
35:05
They were an early Oz Fest band. Their first big tour was Oz Fest
35:10
2005 again the Iron Maiden Oz Fest.
35:13
They have opened for Ozzy, they have played with every band on
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this bill. They've opened for Metallica,
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they've opened for all these bands.
35:21
Co headlined with Gojira and Mastodon and Lamba God all
35:25
recently. So just strange to me that
35:28
Trivium has never talked about as one of these bands that
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absolutely kind of should have been at this thing.
35:32
But OK, can't invite everybody. As my Co host on the roundtable
35:37
review, Gayle Worley of Worley Gig said Hey Breed is another
35:42
band. I think they are maybe just not
35:43
as big in the rest of the world, but like they just came off of a
35:48
huge European Tour. They were in Europe right before
35:51
the 4th of July. Why not them?
35:54
Hate Breed is fun. They do covers all the whole
35:57
covers album just has got great energy.
36:01
The crowd loves him. He is a monster on tour, on
36:04
stage and I just was like, why not Hate Breed?
36:08
They're so loved. You know, they were a Nas fest
36:11
band, they were a Mayhem fest band.
36:13
They go very well over in Europe in a European festivals.
36:16
Maybe some of their fest, maybe some of their tour slots were
36:19
exclusives. And so there's showing up in the
36:22
UK again, would be verboten for them against a contract.
36:25
But like, Jamie's one of the most solid people in all of
36:28
music history in terms of being just a good righteous, no
36:32
trouble dude. I love this photo.
36:34
This is from I think the Not Fest Iowa last year.
36:38
This is shot by Wayne Edwards of Shardock Media from those cult
36:43
guys, Monster photographer and writer.
36:46
Also also five Finger Death Punch.
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Not my favorite band, but again, another band, a massive band in
36:52
terms of like American, you know, they would headline over
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trivia man Lamba God in some cases.
36:57
They obviously headlined in both America and Europe over Megadeth
37:00
even just recently and nothing from them.
37:04
Again, I know Ivan Moody has had his issues and he's, you know,
37:07
very focused on his sobriety and not being on the road as much
37:10
and away from his kids. But like No 5 finger death punch
37:14
just weird and I think that's it from my list.
37:19
If you're watching this now, you can drop a comment and tell me
37:22
who you think got kicked off. I still think it was true.
37:26
I'm scratching my head about these other ones that were not
37:29
invited or asked, you know, feel free to drop us a tip if you'd
37:34
like to I'll be back for here's a little programming note.
37:38
I'll be back tomorrow. Here's the thumbnail sneak
37:40
preview of the thumbnail for tomorrow afternoon show.
37:44
And you know, that's what we do. I, I normally don't show the
37:49
thumbnail before I do the show, but here we go.
37:52
Tell me, tell me who you think got kicked off by Sharon.
37:59
Hopefully she's going to tell us.
38:00
She's very good at manipulating the media.
38:02
I do hope and believe this will be some kind of DVD Blu-ray
38:06
video on demand concert with a live album.
38:09
I think to get all the band's record labels to collaborate and
38:12
cooperate might be hard outside of Metallica, who owns
38:16
everything of themselves. But everybody else is beholden
38:19
to different companies. Land of God and Gochura and
38:22
Master are on the same label. Hailstorms on Atlantic.
38:26
It's tough, but maybe the Sabbath covers at least can be,
38:31
you know, extended to the music performances in the live album.
38:36
And then, you know, you can do that for charity also, which
38:39
would be a nice. If you make it be for charity
38:41
and it's not-for-profit, then everybody is kind of more apt.
38:45
Record labels are a little more apt to cooperate.
38:48
And that is this live stream. It is a comfortable under 40
38:53
minutes. Not too bad from this chatterbox
38:55
made here. I'll be back 1214 hours, 15
39:00
hours from now with the weekly ritual Coast cults rocky metal
39:04
news show every week recapping the week the was and we're going
39:07
to talk more about this also. And just the last licks here.
39:13
Dillinger being up late 3 in the morning where you are, pal.
39:16
My Dying Bride would have made more sense than five finger put.
39:19
I think hailstorm was good. There's a there was shockingly
39:22
no women beside Lizzie Hale. Just shocking to me a little bit
39:27
shocking. Yeah, I hear what you're saying.
39:31
I think Orange Goblin is probably the omission in terms
39:34
of British bands. Of all those Stoner doom bands,
39:37
The band that's hanging it up at the end of this year is the band
39:40
to put on this thing. All the other bands are just too
39:44
small. Again, like looking at
39:46
streaming, looking at who's a you know, OPEC, who I love and
39:52
are legends are too small a band to be on this thing, even though
39:56
I love OPEC and they would have did a bang up fucking job.
40:01
And I do love My Dying Bride and I think there is Aaron, like not
40:05
in My Dying Bride right now. So they have their own problems.
40:08
Like I wouldn't, I don't necessarily know if I want to
40:11
see the band without him. And could you imagine My Dying
40:17
Bride showing up to play this thing and not having Aaron the
40:23
singer? He had the backup singer, which
40:26
is fine. He got a great guy, but I don't
40:29
know, I don't know, possessed this year.
40:34
What up, possessed what up? Gigi fan thanks everybody who
40:36
watched this unexpected late live stream about who Sharon
40:40
kicked off the Back to the Beginning show.
40:43
I watched it and I loved almost all of it.
40:47
And it was a it's wonderful to say I lived in the time where
40:50
this could happen. And I don't know if something
40:52
like this will happen again. Maybe from Talaco when they call
40:54
it a day, but we'll see. Thanks everybody for watching.
40:58
I'll be back in about 15 hours with the weekly ritual.
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I'm Kefi from ghostcalledmag.com.
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Thanks for being here and peace and goodnight to everybody.