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The Next Round: Arch Manning’s Biggest Problem + Why Camario Taylor Is Exploding at Mississippi State | Hour 2 · The Next Round

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Speaker 1: 11 in the East, 10 in the Central.
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Speaker 2: The next round presented by Hard Rock Bets on Sporting State.
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Speaker 2: I was trying to come up with a cool intro
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Speaker 2: for Brooks Austin off of some of the Emmy Award
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Speaker 2: winners last night.
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Speaker 1: DTF St. Louis won an Emmy last night, so I
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Speaker 1: was going to go Brooks Austin, DTF, digest the film.
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Speaker 1: Look at it. Helmet to the head. That's a hard
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Speaker 1: rock bed helmet. You ready to go, man?
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Speaker 3: Hell yeah. Hard rock bed buddies. What's up, guys? How
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Speaker 3: are you? Hard rock bed buddies. Let's go.
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Speaker 1: Look at our growing partnerships.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: How are you, Brooks?
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Speaker 3: I got a helmet. Do y'all have a helmet? We don't.
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Speaker 3: I have a helmet. Do y'all have a helmet? Oh,
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Speaker 3: hang on. Hang on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: We just don't have a hard rock bed. It doesn't
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Speaker 1: say hard rock beds.
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Speaker 4: I was about to say. I mean, I got multiple
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Speaker 4: helmets in here. I was wondering if y'all got a
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Speaker 4: hard rock bed helmet.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. We're game ready, by the way, with the next
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Speaker 1: round helmet. These are game ready helmets.
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Speaker 3: Atta boy. I got a couple of helmets in here.
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Speaker 4: I got my hard rock bat helmet that gets prestige placement.
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Speaker 4: I got my college helmet, my high school helmet. Hell,
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Speaker 4: I might find my middle school helmet.
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Speaker 1: Hey, cool Alabama shirt there, man. I love that.
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Speaker 3: You like that?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was when he first popped up on
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Speaker 1: the preview screen. I was like, he's wearing a bat.
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Speaker 3: Oh, no, that's Braves.
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Speaker 1: Man, I'm dying to know.
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Speaker 2: What you have seen of Camario Taylor so far, because
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Speaker 2: I know you've, you've seen him from last year. You
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Speaker 2: talked about him all summer long, but for the, for
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Speaker 2: most of America, it's like Camario Taylor's this new present.
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Speaker 2: They got the first two weeks. So where is Camario
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Speaker 2: better than he was last year? And what do you
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Speaker 2: think of the kid?
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Speaker 3: I just more of him. I don't, I don't think
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Speaker 3: he's got it.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's gotten better obviously with, with gang, with
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Speaker 4: game reps and whatnot, but all that was on that
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Speaker 4: tape last year. If you, if you turn that old
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Speaker 4: miss game on, you would have, came away thinking the
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Speaker 4: same thing I came away with, which is this is the,
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Speaker 4: I said this this summer, this is the traitsiest human
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Speaker 4: being that has ever played in the wide choice offense.
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Speaker 4: Like he is, he is the biggest, fastest, strongest, best
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Speaker 4: thrower of the football that this offense has ever seen.
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Speaker 4: And Jeff Levy has got him playing like a fine-tuned machine.
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Speaker 4: Like there, there is no doubt this guy is extremely
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Speaker 4: physically gifted and Lance, I heard you yesterday or the
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Speaker 4: other day, I think it was, he was like, man,
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Speaker 4: I don't know if enough people are talking about this enough.
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Speaker 4: People know if they don't buy now, they're not watching
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Speaker 4: football and we shouldn't listen to their opinions.
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? If like some national voice,
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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about you.
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about somebody on game day. If they're like, wow, I'm,
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Speaker 4: I'm like new to this. Where have you been the
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Speaker 4: first two weeks of college football? It like the dude had,
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Speaker 4: I think they had 780 yards of total offense week
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Speaker 4: one as an offense. And week two, they go to
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Speaker 4: Minnesota and they're taking their foot off the gas. Like
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Speaker 4: Mississippi State out-possessioned. The wide choice, run 90 plays the game.
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Speaker 4: Mississippi State out-possessioned the I'm trying to slog this thing
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Speaker 4: out Minnesota Gophers this past weekend.
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Speaker 3: That was the biggest. What's up?
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Speaker 5: Well, I know I was just going to say, you know,
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Speaker 5: they had moments last year in year two under Labby.
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Speaker 5: I mean, they should have beaten Tennessee. They should have
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Speaker 5: beaten Texas. That was with Blake Chapin. But I wanted
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Speaker 5: to ask you, I mean, the offense, obviously they can
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Speaker 5: run the football. Defensively, Zach Arnett's units. I know it's
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Speaker 5: been La Monroe. It's been Minnesota. But what are you
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Speaker 5: seeing there? Is that a defense that is competent enough
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Speaker 5: to complement this offense?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they just got to get a couple
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Speaker 4: of stops because they're going to be able to outscore
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Speaker 4: everybody else. But what I was getting at right there
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Speaker 4: at the end was the most important thing about Mississippi
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Speaker 4: State football for me is the fact that can you
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Speaker 4: actually slow it down? Can you actually be comfortable when
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Speaker 4: you formulate a lead? like being willing to, you know,
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Speaker 4: choose some clock a little bit. Cause normally these wide
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Speaker 4: choice offenses, it's like putting them in handcuffs when you're like, Hey,
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Speaker 4: slow down. We have a 21 to three lead. Can
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Speaker 4: we actually choose some clock to protect our defense? Cause
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Speaker 4: if we keep rolling our defense out there, eventually they
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Speaker 4: will die. But I do think our net last year
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Speaker 4: in the previous years without him, they were trying to
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Speaker 4: be this chaos based defense that, Because they didn't feel
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Speaker 4: like they could hold up and play normal base defense
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Speaker 4: and get off the field.
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Speaker 3: They felt like they had.
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Speaker 4: To hunt TFLs and hunt sacks and hunt explosive plays
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Speaker 4: on defense. And what it ended up opening themselves up
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Speaker 4: to is allowing explosives, right? I feel like Arnett is
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Speaker 4: one of the best defensive coordinators I've studied at of
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Speaker 4: maintaining that chaos. while teaching it at a high enough
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Speaker 4: level to avoid giving up explosives, right? Maintaining gap integrity
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Speaker 4: while hunting, like, havoc-based defense. It's honestly what makes Brian
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Speaker 4: Haynes up in Indiana, for my money, one of the best,
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Speaker 4: if not the best, defensive coordinators in the sport, where
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Speaker 4: we can hunt all this havoc, we can do all
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Speaker 4: this crazy stuff while maintaining gap integrity and not putting
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Speaker 4: two guys in one gap and then allowing a massive
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Speaker 4: gap to open up, and then bam, we end up
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Speaker 4: getting hit with an explosive or busting the coverage. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: I do think, you know, they can cover. They've got some,
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Speaker 4: you know, dynamic playmakers in the back end. In the box, man, nowadays,
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Speaker 4: we don't necessarily need a Mount Cody or we don't
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Speaker 4: necessarily need a Jalen Carter.
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Speaker 3: If we're good.
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Speaker 4: Enough with our Havoc, if we're good enough with our
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Speaker 4: twist stunts and wraps, we don't necessarily need a super
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Speaker 4: freak up front, and I do think Arnett does a
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Speaker 4: good enough job there. But, yeah, man, this offense and
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Speaker 4: this quarterback, goofy, absolutely goofy.
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Speaker 1: going to, he's going to talk about it, but go
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Speaker 1: watch the 35 minute video. If you're a Bama fan
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Speaker 1: is the Alabama run game back on the Hills of
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Speaker 1: Alabama and Lexington. Your answer to that question is.
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Speaker 3: What, uh, it's at least diverse enough to be back.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 4: Last year, they were a primary zone football team. They
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Speaker 4: ran a lot of duo, uh, which is like a
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Speaker 4: we're going to move you against your will type of run.
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Speaker 4: And with what I just got done talking about with Arnett,
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Speaker 4: like all this chaos that defenses are creating, it's not
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Speaker 4: just him. It's every defense. Guys, Georgia's running run stunts
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Speaker 4: on first.
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Speaker 3: Down, right?
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Speaker 4: Like a team that was historically a two gap structure
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Speaker 4: where our defensive line is better than your offensive line.
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Speaker 3: So we're just going to hold the point.
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Speaker 4: Like nobody's doing that anymore because they're trying to create TFLs.
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Speaker 4: They're trying to throw off your combination blocks. So what
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Speaker 4: we have to have nowadays in a run game structure
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Speaker 4: is gap scheme.
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Speaker 3: Runs, right?
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Speaker 4: We have to be able to run counter. We have
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Speaker 4: to be able to run wide zone. We have to
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Speaker 4: be able to run jets. Like we have to be
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Speaker 4: able to run quarterback counter read. Like we have to
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Speaker 4: do all this stuff to avoid giving up TFLs. And
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Speaker 4: when I turned on the ECU tape week one, I'm like, man,
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Speaker 4: where's all the diversity in the run game? Where's all
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Speaker 4: the five or six different schemes that we're going to
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Speaker 4: throw at this defense to at least create some hesitation, right?
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Speaker 4: To not allow defenders to just run their ass upfield.
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Speaker 4: And then I figured, okay, maybe this is just because
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Speaker 4: we can beat ECU 48-10 running week one install. Maybe
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Speaker 4: the bag, if you will, maybe the diversified run game
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Speaker 4: will show up in conference play. And sure as hell,
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Speaker 4: it did right there against Kentucky. So I was really,
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Speaker 4: really excited. to turn tape on and see that, okay,
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Speaker 4: this guy is actually going to throw the kitchen sink
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Speaker 4: at defenses when it comes to their run game. And
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Speaker 4: they beat that butt in the second half, 32 to nothing.
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Speaker 4: And guys, the last two scoring drives from Alabama, they
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Speaker 4: had 14 plays and ran the ball 10 times. They
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Speaker 4: couldn't do that last year. They couldn't do that the
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Speaker 4: year before. This is a mature, diversified run game, and
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Speaker 4: I was extremely happy to see that. And people will say, Well,
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Speaker 4: it's Kentucky Brooks. I mean, how many times are you
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Speaker 4: going to do that, though? How many times are you
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Speaker 4: going to tell me it's the opponent instead of giving
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Speaker 4: credit where credit is due? I was happy to see
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Speaker 4: that they have diversified the run game. I genuinely believe, guys,
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Speaker 4: if you're out here still running basic inside zone and
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Speaker 4: mid zone as an offensive coordinator and you're not installing
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Speaker 4: counter and you're not installing wide zone concepts and you're
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Speaker 4: not trying to stretch defenses to create vertical creases, you're
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Speaker 4: going to be updating your resume at the end of
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Speaker 4: the year because you're not going to be able to
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Speaker 4: run the ball.
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Speaker 3: And they aren't.
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Speaker 4: They're back into a diversified run scheme. And that's what
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Speaker 4: they were at Washington. They had to get these athletes
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Speaker 4: up front. and get away from these 375-pound tackles that
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Speaker 4: can't really do the athletic-based movements. Yeah, they might be
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Speaker 4: able to catch screen passes, but they're not counter-tackles, and
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Speaker 4: that's what they have now. I'm really impressed by the
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Speaker 4: way that they're getting to some of these run schemes too.
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Speaker 4: They're running counter different than everybody else. Most people run
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Speaker 4: guard tight end counter or guard tackle counter. The guard
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Speaker 4: pulls and kicks, and then the tackle or the tight
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Speaker 4: end pulls and wraps and inserts on the front side.
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Speaker 3: They're running HG counter.
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Speaker 4: They're kicking with the tight end and wrapping with the guard.
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Speaker 4: It's different than most ways of running counter nowadays.
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Speaker 3: I'm impressed.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easy to get drunk off the victory of Texas'
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter comeback. But for the long haul, is Arch
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Speaker 1: Manning ready to be a quarterback that leads Texas to
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Speaker 1: where they are, the number one team in the country?
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Speaker 1: What did you see from Arch in that win down
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Speaker 1: in Austin?
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Speaker 4: I mean, so I'll lead with the good news, right? Like,
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Speaker 4: good news is he was clutch as hell. He never blinked.
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Speaker 4: right his best performance was in the fourth quarter they
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Speaker 4: had three drive they ran 81 snaps on saturday guys
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Speaker 4: and 40 of them came in their final three drives
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Speaker 4: wow like they they they worked all right in the
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Speaker 4: fourth quarter and sark to his credit never avoided the
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Speaker 4: run never bailed out of it, was down 20 points
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Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter, and maintained a balanced approach, which
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Speaker 4: I think young play callers need to pay attention to
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Speaker 4: that because it can be so easy, like Oklahoma did
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Speaker 4: this past weekend. It could be so easy to just
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Speaker 4: be like, oh, hey, we got to spam the pass.
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Speaker 4: We have to pass the football, despite the fact that
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Speaker 4: our tailbacks were averaging four yards a carry at Oklahoma
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Speaker 4: this past weekend, and they only gave them 16 touches.
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Speaker 3: That's not ideal.
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Speaker 4: I'm really bullish on the fact that this kid never
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Speaker 4: blinked in the fourth quarter, but guys, it's still, to me,
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Speaker 4: it's still like two different players. Like one play, we
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Speaker 4: look awesome. And then the next play we're like, man.
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Speaker 4: We missed that. We probably should have pulled the trigger
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Speaker 4: there or we finally pulled the trigger and we dirtied
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Speaker 4: the football. Like I love Dan Orlovsky. You guys love
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Speaker 4: Dan Orlovsky. We all love Dan Orlovsky.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 4: But I find it really disingenuous that we show the
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Speaker 4: the fourth and six like shallow or the bender to
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Speaker 4: Emmett Mosley where we rip a bean with pressure in
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Speaker 4: our face and and we convert the biggest fourth down
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Speaker 4: of the football game, but we don't show the same
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Speaker 4: exact play from the second quarter where Emmitt Mosley's got
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Speaker 4: a 45-yard reception if we just hit him in stride
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Speaker 4: and he's butt naked open over the middle of the field, and.
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Speaker 3: We miss him by five yards in front of him.
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Speaker 4: Like, it's that type of hit or miss with Arch
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Speaker 4: right now, and to be frank, it really.
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Speaker 3: Always has been. It's always been, wow, ugh, whoa, ugh. Like,
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Speaker 3: it's this... It's this up.
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Speaker 4: And down right now with him. And to be honest,
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Speaker 4: from the box, I was like, man, what's Sark guy
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Speaker 4: going on? And then I watched the tape. Bro, Sark
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Speaker 4: was in his bag from snap one. Sark had open
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Speaker 4: runners all day long, all day long. And to Sark's credit,
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Speaker 4: if he missed, if the quarterback missed the dig, he'd
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Speaker 4: call it again, get in his ear and say, the
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Speaker 4: dig is open.
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Speaker 3: Will you throw it? And then the next play they
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Speaker 3: get it. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 4: So like, This type of stuff, if the kid ever
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Speaker 4: is consistently what he can be, yes, he will be
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Speaker 4: quote-unquote generational.
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Speaker 3: He will be quote-unquote first pick. He will be all
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Speaker 3: this stuff.
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Speaker 4: But we're not consistently there yet, and I'm still hopeful
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Speaker 4: that he is because I had the kid number two
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Speaker 4: on my preseason quarterback ranking. So please, for the love
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Speaker 4: of God, please be it. I want to be right.
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Speaker 4: I root to be right. I want to be right.
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Speaker 3: But we're still hit or miss right about now.
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Speaker 5: So fascinating game Saturday night that a lot of people
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Speaker 5: won't see in Jordan Hare with Florida and Auburn, two
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Speaker 5: first-year coaches, and some are all in goalage because of
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Speaker 5: LSU Ole Miss. I know you're a big fan, Buster Faulkner,
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Speaker 5: Aaron Filo. Byron Brown looks like he cleaned a lot
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Speaker 5: up from week one to week two. I know it
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Speaker 5: was Southern Miss. Right now, offensively, who's got the advantage,
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Speaker 5: Florida or Auburn?
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Speaker 4: Well, I will rarely ever give anyone an edge over
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Speaker 4: Buster Faulkner, so there you go. um the weaponry I
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Speaker 4: mean even without Eric Singleton I don't I'm not a
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Speaker 4: I'm not a names guy I'm a numbers guy uh
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Speaker 4: that number four from Florida is really freaking good like
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Speaker 4: I I said this earlier in the year before the
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Speaker 4: season even started it's going to be hard to fail
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Speaker 4: at quarterback at Florida and I I'm a big Philo
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Speaker 4: guy but when we talk about Vernell Brown when we
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Speaker 4: talk about Dallas Wilson when we talk about Jaden Ball
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Speaker 4: when we talk about number four when Eric Singleton gets
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Speaker 4: healthy like I don't know of an offense in college
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Speaker 4: football that has that wide receiver core and potentially one
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Speaker 4: of the best backs in college football, if not the
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Speaker 4: best back in college football. And for my money, a
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Speaker 4: top three coordinator in the sport. It's going to be really,
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Speaker 4: really hard to fail at quarterback. Now, this will be
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Speaker 4: the toughest test maybe all season because DJ Durkin is
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Speaker 4: a lunatic. DJ Durkin is one of the best defensive
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Speaker 4: coordinators in the sport. And if there is something that
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Speaker 4: you can't do He'll make you do it for four
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Speaker 4: quarters and he'll cause chaos on the way of doing it. Like,
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Speaker 4: and you're on the road to Jordan here at night.
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Speaker 4: So this will be the test. If they get out
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Speaker 4: of this one alive with a lot of points on
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Speaker 4: the board, man, look out for Florida. Like I put
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Speaker 4: the floor this year for Florida at eight and four.
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Speaker 4: Like I thought that was the floor. I expected them
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Speaker 4: to go eight and four or better. And people looked
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Speaker 4: at me like I was crazy. And we'll find out
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Speaker 4: if I'm a stupid person this weekend. That's what we'll
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Speaker 4: find out.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned Georgia earlier, and they have been under the
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Speaker 1: radar because they are playing lesser competition right now. They
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Speaker 1: haven't played one of these big games. However, I remember
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Speaker 1: going into week one, I was talking about the fact
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Speaker 1: that Kirby Smart, when he's a favorite of 35 or more,
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Speaker 1: has never covered. And it's like Kirby got pissed off
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Speaker 1: about that because now he's scoring 70 points in a game.
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Speaker 1: That's right. Covered both of them. He's covered both of
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Speaker 1: them by a mile. And it's somewhat uncharacteristic. What has
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Speaker 1: been the change? Is this offense just that good that
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Speaker 1: he can't throttle it back?
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Speaker 4: I think the execution rates are that high. Guys, they
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Speaker 4: had six scoring drives last weekend of three plays or less.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uncommon.
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Speaker 3: It's hard to do that on air.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean, six scoring drives of three plays or less.
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Speaker 4: They had two forced fumbles, two picks, and a kickoff
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Speaker 4: return for a touchdown. I've never seen that. I've covered
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Speaker 4: Georgia since 2019. I have never seen them do that.
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Speaker 4: We could talk about lesser than competition, but they played
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Speaker 4: with their food last year against Marshall. They played with
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Speaker 4: their food last year against Austin Peay. They were way
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Speaker 4: better than that Georgia Tech football team last year. They
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Speaker 4: were in a fourth quarter dogfight. You go back two
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Speaker 4: years ago, They're getting their face ran through by UMass
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Speaker 4: at home. This is a total different level of execution
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Speaker 4: from a Georgia football team that I haven't seen in
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Speaker 4: a long, long time. I think he tries to call
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Speaker 4: the dogs off, but can't seemingly do it.
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Speaker 3: We can go out there.
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Speaker 4: The backup quarterbacks, I think, had seven total pass attempts
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Speaker 4: on Saturday. It's not like It's not like they went
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Speaker 4: out there and was like, all right, Ryan Puglisi, go
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Speaker 4: run the full offense.
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Speaker 3: Not really. Not really.
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Speaker 4: They just couldn't stop scoring. And Kirby, to his typical
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Speaker 4: Kirby smart. went up to the press conference and talked
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Speaker 4: like they lost that damn game. That guy's a crazy person,
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Speaker 4: as all the great ones are. All the great ones
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Speaker 4: are never satisfied, never happy. The Florida guy and the
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Speaker 4: Auburn guy are the same way, by the way.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Y'all have probably noticed this by now. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And people are calling it performative. Yeah, it is. It is.
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Speaker 3: It's performative.
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Speaker 4: No different than when Nick Saban used to do it.
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Speaker 4: No different than when Kirby Smart does it. You have
17:10
Speaker 4: to go up there. and talk like your team sucks
17:13
Speaker 4: like that. Cause they're, they're listening. They're listening to that.
17:16
Speaker 4: We can love them up in the locker room after
17:18
Speaker 4: the game. Hey, great job, but not good enough. It's
17:21
Speaker 4: always the, it's always the message. The message has to
17:24
Speaker 4: always be not good enough. We have to get better
17:27
Speaker 4: because we constantly have to.
17:29
Speaker 2: I would hate to have you on and not ask
17:31
Speaker 2: you about the game. You're going to this weekend, LSU
17:33
Speaker 2: and Ole Miss.
17:35
Speaker 1: My concern is.
17:37
Speaker 3: My safety?
17:40
Speaker 1: Is Ole Miss what I saw in that Louisville game defensively?
17:45
Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with Ole Miss' defense in this game
17:48
Speaker 1: against LSU? What's your just overall feel on this one?
17:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, typically when Lane was there and Pete was the D.C.,
17:56
Speaker 4: all of the new faces were on offense. And he
17:58
Speaker 4: kind of made Pete like piecemeal the defense with returning
18:01
Speaker 4: players and try to find decent enough, you know, pieces
18:06
Speaker 4: to keep the other team under 28 while we score 42.
18:11
Speaker 4: And now all the new faces and high end purchase
18:13
Speaker 4: values are on the defensive side of the football at
18:17
Speaker 4: the defensive.
18:17
Speaker 3: Line and in the back end.
18:20
Speaker 4: And when you have new faces in that Pete Golding position,
18:23
Speaker 4: defense it's gonna lead to some explosives allowed and busted
18:27
Speaker 4: coverages because y'all remember that clip of Pete Golding talking
18:30
Speaker 4: to Greg McElroy about all their defensive adjustments and like
18:34
Speaker 4: all the the fancy terminology that he used you probably
18:38
Speaker 4: remember if you don't look it up it's Pete Golding
18:40
Speaker 4: talking about like all the different ways they're preparing for
18:44
Speaker 4: Miami and And he's going through this 90-second soliloquy about
18:48
Speaker 4: all this matching coverages that we're doing. And what he's
18:53
Speaker 4: describing is what we call picture matching on our channel,
18:55
Speaker 4: where if the offense lines up in this, we're going
18:58
Speaker 4: to play this on this side of the football. If
19:00
Speaker 4: they do this on this side, we're going to line
19:02
Speaker 4: up here and play this. And when we have all
19:04
Speaker 4: this picture matching defense, what it can create is explosives
19:07
Speaker 4: and busted coverages because not everybody in the back ends
19:11
Speaker 4: on the same page, especially when we have new faces.
19:14
Speaker 4: So I don't expect that to be the standard of
19:16
Speaker 4: Ole Miss defense, to answer your question. I expect a
19:19
Speaker 4: lot of this to get solidified as the year progresses.
19:24
Speaker 4: That being said, it's week three. It's not week nine.
19:27
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? So we're still relatively new
19:30
Speaker 4: with the defense that we have going in. So I
19:33
Speaker 4: would imagine, and this is a totally new LSU offense.
19:37
Speaker 4: It's not what they did at Ole Miss. It's totally new.
19:41
Speaker 4: They have revamped that. There's a lot more pre-snap motion.
19:44
Speaker 4: There's a lot more different formations. The run schemes are
19:48
Speaker 4: totally different. They've revamped that offense to a tune of
19:53
Speaker 4: something relatively impressive. I wasn't surprised to look up and
19:58
Speaker 4: find out that Sam Levitt had thrown three interceptions this
20:00
Speaker 4: past weekend, though. When I talked to LSU before the
20:04
Speaker 4: game on Friday, they were like, hey, we respect this
20:07
Speaker 4: Louisiana Tech defensive coordinator. We think this guy's got one
20:10
Speaker 4: of the best check systems that we've played against. And
20:13
Speaker 4: if you're going to play LSU, and if you're going
20:14
Speaker 4: to play Lane Kiffin, if you're going to play Charlie Weiss,
20:17
Speaker 4: you better be good at checking your defense because they're
20:19
Speaker 4: going to check their offense into what you're playing. And
20:23
Speaker 4: Louisiana Tech had great checks in the first half defensively,
20:26
Speaker 4: and they created a lot of looks that were advantageous
20:30
Speaker 4: to what LSU was checking into.
20:32
Speaker 3: And that's going to lead to turnovers.
20:34
Speaker 4: And Going into the season, I look kind of stupid
20:37
Speaker 4: week one, but I said this Sam Levitt guy is
20:40
Speaker 4: going to get some GM fired because somebody's going to
20:42
Speaker 4: watch him this year with all the answers in his
20:44
Speaker 4: headset from Lane Kiffin and Charlie Weiss and go, that's
20:48
Speaker 4: Bo Nix.
20:49
Speaker 3: I got to draft this.
20:51
Speaker 4: Not realizing that, uh-oh, this guy's a little bit turnover prone.
20:54
Speaker 4: He puts the ball at risk and we're through two
20:57
Speaker 4: weeks and we have four interceptions and three in the
20:59
Speaker 4: first half of one football game. That's the Sam Levitt experience.
21:03
Speaker 4: You're going to have this ups and downs with regards
21:06
Speaker 4: to the turnover margin. So to answer your question, no,
21:09
Speaker 4: I don't expect Ole Miss to be bludgeoned to death
21:12
Speaker 4: by explosives and busted coverages, but I do expect some
21:16
Speaker 4: of that stuff to take some time.
21:17
Speaker 1: You are a bit younger than us. I'm curious if
21:19
Speaker 1: you like this show, and I wonder if you guys
21:21
Speaker 1: ever watched it. It came on Sunday mornings. I'd watch
21:23
Speaker 1: it before I went to church as a kid. and
21:25
Speaker 1: as a teenager, and as a young adult. It was
21:27
Speaker 1: called NFL Matchup, and it was Sal Palantonio.
21:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brian Baldinger.
21:30
Speaker 3: No, no, no.
21:31
Speaker 1: This was ESPN. It was Sal Palantonio, Merrill Hodge, and
21:34
Speaker 1: Ron Jaworski. And they would have, y'all remember that show?
21:37
Speaker 1: And they'd have a game and they're like, Steelers are
21:39
Speaker 1: at the Ravens today. Merrill, what did the Steelers do
21:41
Speaker 1: that's going to be trouble? And then Merrill would break
21:43
Speaker 1: down the high. NFL Network has a. They got one
21:46
Speaker 1: like that now? Yeah. So you watch the NFL Network version.
21:49
Speaker 1: I love that ESPN version. All they would do is
21:52
Speaker 1: break down film and it'd be like the end zone,
21:53
Speaker 1: the high 22 end zone you never see. you know,
21:56
Speaker 1: and they would, and Merrill would tell you why the
21:58
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh plays work. And then Jaws will tell you why
22:00
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense can stop it. That's all that Brooks does.
22:04
Speaker 3: I know.
22:05
Speaker 1: That's what I think. I did.
22:07
Speaker 3: I did love that.
22:08
Speaker 4: And I do love that content, obviously as a film
22:10
Speaker 4: connoisseur and a film guy, I do understand why TV
22:14
Speaker 4: executives moved away from it because, and I'm not trying
22:18
Speaker 4: to hype myself up here, but a lot of football
22:21
Speaker 4: people get in front of the board and they talk
22:23
Speaker 4: over their audience and, And we lose the entertainment value
22:27
Speaker 4: because we lose the audience and we're talking over the
22:30
Speaker 4: head of them trying to sound really, really smart. That's
22:33
Speaker 4: not what we do. That's not what I try to do.
22:35
Speaker 4: I try to, you know, I always say on the channel,
22:38
Speaker 4: I try to take somebody who knows football at a
22:39
Speaker 4: calculus level and entertain them. And I try to take
22:42
Speaker 4: someone who knows football at a kindergarten level and educate them.
22:45
Speaker 3: And that's what we're trying to meet.
22:47
Speaker 4: And sometimes when you do film analysis, you get way
22:51
Speaker 4: too deep in the weeds and you talk way over
22:53
Speaker 4: the head of your audience and you lose them. And
22:56
Speaker 4: that's not the goal. The goal is not to have
22:59
Speaker 4: someone leave a film study session going, my God, that
23:02
Speaker 4: fat headed guy sure does know football. That's not what
23:05
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do. I'm trying to entertain while educating.
23:09
Speaker 4: And sometimes we can lose the audience and that's not
23:12
Speaker 4: the goal. So I do understand why TV executives have
23:15
Speaker 4: moved away from a lot of this stuff, but I
23:20
Speaker 4: hope that every time we do it, we meet that
23:23
Speaker 4: fine line in the middle of education and entertainment.
23:25
Speaker 1: You do well, and that's why we encourage people to
23:28
Speaker 1: go support your work, the Film Guy Network on YouTube,
23:31
Speaker 1: and follow him on social media at BrooksAustinBA. Have fun
23:35
Speaker 1: at Ole Miss LSU. That should be an entertaining night. Hey,
23:38
Speaker 1: wear your helmet.
23:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, man.
23:39
Speaker 1: Take your helmet.
23:40
Speaker 3: I'm going to.
23:41
Speaker 4: I'm on the field all day in the entire game.
23:44
Speaker 4: I have a field pass, and I don't think I've
23:47
Speaker 4: ever been so nervous for going to a college football game.
23:53
Speaker 4: That place, Pete Golding had a quote yesterday where he
23:56
Speaker 4: was like, this is one of the most welcoming places
24:00
Speaker 4: even to opposing fans. I'm like, sir, huh? No, that
24:04
Speaker 4: is not the case. I would say Kyle Field is
24:07
Speaker 4: that way. Texas A & M people are really, really nice.
24:10
Speaker 4: Your people are mean. Your people do not make the
24:15
Speaker 4: opposing fans feel welcome. And look, that's the way it
24:18
Speaker 4: ought to be. I don't want to go to a
24:21
Speaker 4: place as an opposing team and feel comfortable. That's not
24:26
Speaker 4: what I want my home field advantage to feel like.
24:29
Speaker 4: I want my home field advantage to feel like Ole Miss,
24:31
Speaker 4: to feel like Knoxville, Tennessee. Those people feel like they're
24:34
Speaker 4: going to reach out and grab you at any moment,
24:37
Speaker 4: and that's the way it ought to be, especially when
24:40
Speaker 4: the ex-girlfriend's coming to town.
24:42
Speaker 1: Brooks, thanks, man. Enjoy it.
24:45
Speaker 3: See you, boys.
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Speaker 1: We'll do upset alert next.
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Speaker 1: the rules every week for our upset alert involve negative
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Speaker 1: four and a half. You got to at least be
27:16
Speaker 1: a four and a half point underdog to be played here.
27:21
Speaker 1: If you get a cover, you get five points. Five
27:24
Speaker 1: points plus the spread for an outright winner. We've had
27:28
Speaker 1: one winner and one cover so far this year. Our
27:31
Speaker 1: updated standings after two weeks. Tepid was the word I
27:35
Speaker 1: used earlier. It is not a great, fantastic start. I
27:39
Speaker 1: won week one, so I've got a big lead.
27:41
Speaker 2: Brown got a cover last week, and we've really not
27:45
Speaker 2: blown it out of the water yet. So just one
27:47
Speaker 2: cover last week, one outright winner week one. Let's get
27:50
Speaker 2: some winners. Let's get some winners this week, some outright winners.
27:54
Speaker 2: LT's going retro on his graphic, I was told.
28:00
Speaker 1: That's what you said earlier. So give me your upset alert.
28:03
Speaker 5: I feel like my first two upset alerts have been
28:06
Speaker 5: very competitive. Like Arkansas State was able to move the
28:09
Speaker 5: ball on Memphis, just not enough. Arizona, again, that fourth
28:12
Speaker 5: and four late in the game. They had an opportunity
28:15
Speaker 5: to take the lead there. They take the lead there.
28:17
Speaker 5: Good chance they win the game. With all that said,
28:20
Speaker 5: I'm going back to the MAAC for a winner. A
28:22
Speaker 5: little Miami of Ohio University plus 14.5 against Cincinnati, against
28:28
Speaker 5: the Bearcats.
28:29
Speaker 1: So an old school logo. Tell us about that first.
28:32
Speaker 1: What is the logo? Is it a bucking bronco?
28:36
Speaker 5: That's an Indian chief.
28:37
Speaker 1: Oh, they're the Warhawks. That's right. Yeah. We got politically
28:40
Speaker 1: correct in 97 or whatever. What did they become? What
28:42
Speaker 1: are they now?
28:42
Speaker 5: They became the Redhawks.
28:43
Speaker 1: The Redhawks. That's right.
28:44
Speaker 5: But this was one of their really good logos.
28:48
Speaker 3: Yeah.
28:48
Speaker 5: That is their logo from 1956 to 1973.
28:50
Speaker 3: Yeah.
28:50
Speaker 1: Pull it up on the screen real quick.
28:53
Speaker 5: And I agree with Scott. It looks like Donnie Darko
28:56
Speaker 5: a little bit with the bunny mask.
28:58
Speaker 4: Okay.
28:58
Speaker 3: Okay.
28:59
Speaker 5: That's a feather, but you know. But pull it up
29:02
Speaker 5: to show these guys. So apparently I didn't do a
29:05
Speaker 5: good job.
29:05
Speaker 1: No, no, no. I can see it now. I couldn't
29:08
Speaker 1: figure out.
29:09
Speaker 3: He's leaned over.
29:09
Speaker 1: I didn't realize he was leaned over. And I've never
29:11
Speaker 1: seen the logo before.
29:12
Speaker 5: He probably just took a gunshot to the back.
29:15
Speaker 1: Could have. Or maybe the gut. Like he's leaning over.
29:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, there it is.
29:18
Speaker 1: Look. Oh, yeah, you did a nice job. Yeah, it's
29:21
Speaker 1: spot on.
29:21
Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
29:22
Speaker 1: Now, I will say I'm kind of with him. The
29:24
Speaker 1: feather looks like rabbit ears.
29:25
Speaker 6: Now you did do a good job because that also
29:27
Speaker 6: looks like Donnie Darko.
29:29
Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. How about that?
29:31
Speaker 5: So before the season, like Western Michigan was the trendy
29:34
Speaker 5: pick in the Mac and then Chuck Martin and miami
29:36
Speaker 5: of ohio actually became the the shortest odds to win
29:40
Speaker 5: the mac before the season started and then they went
29:42
Speaker 5: out and got absolutely walloped by pittsburgh but uh david
29:46
Speaker 5: mccomb uh bounced back big game against this cincinnati defense
29:51
Speaker 5: i've just got a sneaky feeling they're gonna win the game.
29:53
Speaker 2: All right catching 14 and a half here I liked
29:56
Speaker 2: that one a lot. I saw you drawing it yesterday.
29:58
Speaker 5: Um, did you know what I was drawing?
29:59
Speaker 1: Uh, it did not, but I, that was on my
30:03
Speaker 1: list to pick was Miami of Ohio. I did not
30:06
Speaker 1: pick them. It missed the cut. It missed the cut.
30:08
Speaker 1: There's Donnie Darko. I see that now.
30:10
Speaker 3: Yeah.
30:10
Speaker 2: Donnie Darko was, uh, let's go to Brooks next Brooks.
30:14
Speaker 2: Give me your upset alert.
30:17
Speaker 7: Uh, Jim, I think I've successfully gone for the first
30:20
Speaker 7: time a game that's not even on your sheet. So
30:22
Speaker 7: I'm going to go 5 p.m. ESPN +. I'm going
30:27
Speaker 7: to take the FIU Golden Panthers plus 7.5 over FAU.
30:33
Speaker 1: It's a weird number. That's the Shula Bowl. It is.
30:36
Speaker 5: It is the Shula Bowl.
30:38
Speaker 1: FAU coming off a big win over Navy, a little
30:40
Speaker 1: bit of an upset there.
30:42
Speaker 7: FAU has not looked good on defense to this point
30:46
Speaker 7: in the season, though FAU had almost 600 yards of
30:48
Speaker 7: total offense last week in their win over Buffalo. I
30:51
Speaker 7: like their chance to maybe move the ball in this
30:54
Speaker 7: game and keep it close and hopefully get an outright win.
30:58
Speaker 2: Why do I always feel like– In those two, in
31:01
Speaker 2: the Shula Bowl, there's a have and a have not.
31:03
Speaker 2: And I always feel like FIU is the have not.
31:07
Speaker 5: I mean, it feels that way.
31:08
Speaker 1: The only success they really had was Crystal Bowl, right?
31:11
Speaker 1: And they fired him. They made a bowl last year. Oh, okay. Yeah.
31:14
Speaker 3: T.Y.
31:14
Speaker 1: Hilton way back in the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:16
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, FIU made national news when they had hired Lane Kiffin.
31:21
Speaker 1: Won a conference.
31:21
Speaker 2: Won a conference championship. And then they beat Navy last week,
31:24
Speaker 2: which I thought was a pretty good win. Somebody on
31:27
Speaker 2: the show, I don't know if it was Lance or
31:28
Speaker 2: one of our Furman, somebody called FAU beating Navy.
31:31
Speaker 1: That was Furman. He said he had two Moneyline plays,
31:34
Speaker 1: Air Force.
31:35
Speaker 6: Yeah.
31:36
Speaker 5: We had a big play on FAU, too.
31:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, FAU.
31:39
Speaker 5: Ended up being our biggest play of the day Saturday.
31:41
Speaker 1: Nice. Let's go next to Forrester.
31:43
Speaker 2: Forrester looking to jump into an AI victory this week.
31:48
Speaker 1: How are you doing, Forrester? I'm good.
31:50
Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm going to get one because
31:52
Speaker 6: I just didn't see anything that I loved.
31:53
Speaker 3: Oh, no. Once again.
31:54
Speaker 1: Scanned the board, didn't like it.
31:55
Speaker 2: There were a lot of twos and threes that I liked,
31:58
Speaker 2: but there were only three, three and a half couldn't play.
32:00
Speaker 1: I've got to get to four and a half. So
32:02
Speaker 1: what do you have? All right.
32:03
Speaker 6: So we're going to Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte.
32:07
Speaker 6: We got the Virginia Cavaliers taking on Rich Rod and
32:10
Speaker 6: the Mountaineers. We got a little mascot fight going on here.
32:14
Speaker 4: Wow.
32:14
Speaker 6: I couldn't shoot the Cavaliers. So, you know, we're just
32:17
Speaker 6: going to kill him.
32:18
Speaker 1: Just want to beat it. They wouldn't allow you to
32:20
Speaker 1: get him with his mouth. Yeah. Does AI not allow it?
32:22
Speaker 1: Burn the couch. Take a swig. Yeah.
32:27
Speaker 6: The Mountaineers plus nine and a half.
32:29
Speaker 1: Mountain bourbon there. Yeah. Yeah. Don't don't waste it all.
32:33
Speaker 3: Right. Rich Rod.
32:34
Speaker 1: This should be.
32:35
Speaker 5: A fun game.
32:36
Speaker 1: You think so?
32:37
Speaker 4: Yeah.
32:38
Speaker 1: I mean, I look, I think Virginia is a better team,
32:39
Speaker 1: but West Virginia is.
32:40
Speaker 3: I mean, 2-0.
32:42
Speaker 1: And they look more like.
32:43
Speaker 5: Rich Rod circa 2007.
32:44
Speaker 1: Fun atmosphere.
32:44
Speaker 5: It's in Charlotte.
32:50
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
32:51
Speaker 6: Especially if Rich Rod's burning couch.
32:52
Speaker 1: No, Charlotte's selling games out now. Or, I mean, Virginia's
32:55
Speaker 1: selling games out now.
32:56
Speaker 3: So hopefully.
32:57
Speaker 1: It's in actual Charlotte, North Carolina. I know, but Virginia's
32:59
Speaker 1: selling games out now. If you'll let me finish the sentence.
33:01
Speaker 1: So hopefully they'll travel to this. You know West Virginia
33:04
Speaker 1: fans will travel. They played Tennessee and Charlotte a couple
33:07
Speaker 1: years ago. Took the stadium over. I really do wish
33:09
Speaker 1: it was a home field for one of those.
33:11
Speaker 3: No, I agree.
33:11
Speaker 1: I agree completely. I wish it was in Morgantown. That
33:13
Speaker 1: would be the most fun atmosphere.
33:15
Speaker 7: Virginia have two neutral site games originally scheduled this year,
33:18
Speaker 7: or was this one?
33:19
Speaker 1: Brazil and Charlotte, yeah.
33:21
Speaker 5: I don't know if you know this, Brooks, but it
33:23
Speaker 5: got hyped up when they hosted NC State. That was
33:25
Speaker 5: their first sellout in 20 years.
33:28
Speaker 1: I was just noting that it's kind of strange that
33:30
Speaker 1: they originally had two neutral sites. Lance's point, why play
33:33
Speaker 1: at home if nobody comes?
33:34
Speaker 2: I'll go next so we can get the bandit in
33:37
Speaker 2: here to replace Brownie. I'm going to go to the
33:40
Speaker 2: Thursday night game. Steve and Jelly threw three interceptions last
33:44
Speaker 2: week I think he bounces back this week, and I'm
33:48
Speaker 2: going to take Syracuse plus the 10.5 on Thursday night
33:52
Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh. On the road, Syracuse is. Pitt struggled to
33:57
Speaker 2: score against UCF. They only get 12 points in the
34:01
Speaker 2: 12-7 win. So you've got a Pitt team that arguably
34:07
Speaker 2: is right now an ACC championship game contender. I think
34:11
Speaker 2: they hit a bump in the road. Steve Angelli, Syracuse.
34:15
Speaker 2: I like Brown, the coach. And if they can get
34:19
Speaker 2: a little running game from Tyleek Hill, something they could
34:22
Speaker 2: not do last week, I think Syracuse can pull the upset.
34:26
Speaker 2: I'm with Forrester. I didn't love a lot on the board.
34:28
Speaker 2: I looked a little at West Virginia, a little at
34:30
Speaker 2: Miami of Ohio. But in the end, I looked a
34:34
Speaker 2: little at Colorado State, which was my second choice. It
34:36
Speaker 2: was down to Syracuse or Colorado State. I couldn't really
34:39
Speaker 2: nail the Colorado State logo, so I went with a
34:42
Speaker 2: block S. I'll take Syracuse. plus the 10.5, I think
34:46
Speaker 2: they bounce back this week and beat Pittsburgh on Thursday night.
34:50
Speaker 5: Pitt is one of those, and you look at their
34:52
Speaker 5: offense the first couple of weeks, you tease Pitt down
34:57
Speaker 5: to a pick and maybe throw in a little Virginia
35:00
Speaker 5: to pick against West Virginia, not going against you guys.
35:03
Speaker 5: And then what was the final one? Oh, Duke in
35:07
Speaker 5: a pick against Stanford at home. Not great teams, but
35:10
Speaker 5: it looks pretty appealing.
35:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, so just get three picks there and tease those
35:14
Speaker 1: three teams down.
35:15
Speaker 5: That would be a better play than your 15-team outright winners.
35:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.
35:20
Speaker 2: The Bandits here with us in second place, 13.5 points
35:24
Speaker 2: behind the leader.
35:24
Speaker 1: Second place week two. Yeah, it's not second place at
35:27
Speaker 1: the end of the season. I'd like to point that out.
35:29
Speaker 1: And I was the only one that got a win
35:31
Speaker 1: last week, right? Cover, a cover, not really a win. No,
35:33
Speaker 1: we call it a win. We call it a win
35:34
Speaker 1: in the bandit household. Although I do look for the
35:36
Speaker 1: outright winners. I like to tell you when I've got
35:38
Speaker 1: an outright winner, and I do this weekend. I have
35:40
Speaker 1: got an outright winner this weekend. I am going to
35:42
Speaker 1: go to a team that has been a feel-good story
35:46
Speaker 1: in American tackle football this year. LSU? A feel-good story
35:50
Speaker 1: in American tackle football this year. And everybody was a
35:53
Speaker 1: fan of this team after week one. And everybody felt
35:56
Speaker 1: sorry for this team after week one. So I started
35:58
Speaker 1: to study this team a little bit. And they didn't
36:01
Speaker 1: play anybody last week. So I was like, next time
36:03
Speaker 1: I get a chance to go against this team, I'm
36:05
Speaker 1: going to go against this team. You know why? You
36:07
Speaker 1: know why I'm going against this team? Why? Because I
36:08
Speaker 1: looked it up. They're coached by Lance Taylor. And I'm like,
36:11
Speaker 1: that guy can't coach football. Lance Taylor. I watch him
36:14
Speaker 1: every day.
36:16
Speaker 3: Rice!
36:17
Speaker 1: Give me the rice, fried or white. I don't care.
36:20
Speaker 5: Give me the owls.
36:22
Speaker 1: Plus nine and a half as they host Western Michigan.
36:26
Speaker 1: You know who Western Michigan plays next week?
36:28
Speaker 4: Who?
36:29
Speaker 1: Boise State. You know what they're looking at? Boise State.
36:33
Speaker 1: They got to go to Houston. Tens of people will
36:36
Speaker 1: be at this game making all kinds of noise. And
36:39
Speaker 1: rice plus the nine and a half. Woo! That's an owl.
36:44
Speaker 1: What do you hear there, Jimmy D? That's an owl.
36:47
Speaker 5: I tried to look ahead on Boise a couple of
36:49
Speaker 5: weeks ago with Arkansas State.
36:50
Speaker 1: How'd that go for you? Did not work out for me.
36:52
Speaker 1: Hopefully it works out for you. It's going to work.
36:54
Speaker 1: It's going to work this week. Rice plus nine. I
36:56
Speaker 1: know everybody loves Western Michigan. I'm not here to make friends.
36:58
Speaker 1: I'm here to make money. Tyler Johns, plus nine and
37:02
Speaker 1: a half points in this game. We don't need them!
37:05
Speaker 1: We don't need them! You know what that sounds like? Muddy.
37:10
Speaker 1: Sounds like I'm getting off work.
37:11
Speaker 5: I hope Rice can fill the team after body bag
37:14
Speaker 5: they got against Notre Dame last week.
37:16
Speaker 1: Bounce back game, Lance.
37:17
Speaker 3: Bounce back.
37:18
Speaker 1: Give me the English R Rice Owls plus nine to that.
37:21
Speaker 2: It did feel like the start of your English R
37:24
Speaker 2: and the middle, the heart of your English R got
37:26
Speaker 2: a little big of a gap there. Is that the
37:28
Speaker 2: correct gap spacing there?
37:29
Speaker 1: That's where I put all the money. That's right in
37:32
Speaker 1: the gap. He doesn't need the points and he doesn't
37:34
Speaker 1: need the space. That's right. I don't need the space
37:36
Speaker 1: or the points.
37:36
Speaker 5: Do you have more money buried in your backyard or
37:38
Speaker 5: safety deposit?
37:40
Speaker 1: Backyard, but you don't know.
37:41
Speaker 3: Where I live.
37:42
Speaker 6: If we want to beat up on logos, I mean, Jim,
37:45
Speaker 6: your ass is looking a little chunky.
37:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, your ass is pregnant. Where's that small ass due?
37:51
Speaker 1: It's Dan Lanning.
37:52
Speaker 3: Yeah.
37:53
Speaker 1: That ass is Mike Elko. That's why I'm stuffing all
37:56
Speaker 1: my money in that belly. No, it is.
37:58
Speaker 5: It's a pregnant ass.
38:00
Speaker 1: That thing's going to get birthed for the game. Once
38:03
Speaker 1: you start drawing pre-show, sometimes you're just like, I'm just
38:06
Speaker 1: going to roll with that. Just color it in. It'll
38:08
Speaker 1: be fine. Going to color it in. I took it
38:10
Speaker 1: home last night to draw it there last night since
38:12
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to up their draw game, Lance.
38:15
Speaker 3: And what?
38:17
Speaker 5: I did mine in 10 minutes yesterday.
38:19
Speaker 3: Yeah.
38:20
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't take yours home again because it
38:22
Speaker 1: didn't work out for me. No, I took it home
38:23
Speaker 1: and didn't draw it. I brought it back just as
38:25
Speaker 1: blank as I took it home. The betting favorite in
38:28
Speaker 1: the back is that I was going to take the
38:29
Speaker 1: board home and forget it at home. That would have
38:33
Speaker 1: been perfect. That was going to be the betting favorite.
38:36
Speaker 1: All right. That's our upset alert. So around the board,
38:39
Speaker 1: we got FIU. We've got West Virginia. We've got Rice.
38:43
Speaker 2: We've got Miami of Ohio, and we've got Syracuse. Play
38:47
Speaker 2: at your own risk, but have a little fun there
38:50
Speaker 2: with our friends at Hard Rock Bets. This is the
38:53
Speaker 2: next round right here on Sport and State. Forrester will
38:56
Speaker 2: not give me money to help out his Chicago White.
38:59
Speaker 5: Sox, by the way.
39:00
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
39:01
Speaker 2: I put a little wager last night on the Guardians
39:04
Speaker 2: for him.
39:04
Speaker 3: Oh, man.
39:07
Speaker 1: And the White Sox won.
39:09
Speaker 2: And I said, hey, I think you should give me
39:10
Speaker 2: a little cash so I can put some more money
39:12
Speaker 2: on the Guardians tonight.
39:13
Speaker 6: Hey, don't change anything, you know? I'm still wearing the jersey.
39:19
Speaker 1: That's right.
39:20
Speaker 3: You know?
39:21
Speaker 2: Anybody notice that, that he's wearing the same clothes as
39:23
Speaker 2: he wore yesterday?
39:25
Speaker 6: I've got four of them.
39:26
Speaker 1: I would not normally notice it, but that is a
39:28
Speaker 1: very bold jersey. Yeah.
39:29
Speaker 4: Yeah.
39:30
Speaker 1: Stand up real quick. Stand up real quick. I would
39:32
Speaker 1: assume that you're superstitious. Yeah.
39:35
Speaker 6: I am.
39:36
Speaker 1: I am very superstitious. I am too.
39:38
Speaker 3: Okay. Well, good for you.
39:39
Speaker 2: I hope it keeps working. Braves and Cubs play again tonight.
39:42
Speaker 2: Cubs a winner last night. Before we do our NFL
39:45
Speaker 2: overreactions to wrap up, Our time here on Sporting State,
39:48
Speaker 2: remember Brock Huard will join us on the next round
39:51
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Speaker 1: All right, let's do overreactions. We'll just take one and
41:03
Speaker 1: we'll pass it along to the next guy. I will
41:06
Speaker 1: go first. I will say I'll go Sean Payton should
41:10
Speaker 1: take back over play calling at Denver after what I
41:12
Speaker 1: saw last night. Overreaction there for me. What do you think?
41:17
Speaker 5: I mean, it looked terrible last night. I mean, again,
41:21
Speaker 5: we've talked about this when your forte is calling plays
41:25
Speaker 5: and dissecting as well as anybody's done it the last
41:28
Speaker 5: 25 years. Why you give it to 31-year-old Davis Webb
41:32
Speaker 5: doesn't make a lot of sense, but We'll see if
41:35
Speaker 5: it gets better. I don't necessarily think that's an overreaction, though.
41:38
Speaker 5: Their offense looked.
41:38
Speaker 3: Terrible last night.
41:39
Speaker 1: It looked awful. Give me one. Give me an overreaction
41:41
Speaker 1: from week one.
41:42
Speaker 5: Overreaction from week one. The Chargers and this Mike McDaniel
41:48
Speaker 5: offense won't work. When Justin Herbert threw his first touchdown,
41:52
Speaker 5: I forgot who was on the broadcast. But he was like,
41:56
Speaker 5: you know what, this might be Daniels really going to
41:58
Speaker 5: open things up for Justin Herbert. I mean, in game.
42:02
Speaker 5: I think it was, you know, the crazy thing, if
42:04
Speaker 5: you would have switched uniforms, if the Rams were the
42:07
Speaker 5: Cardinals and they had that, people would be like, oh,
42:09
Speaker 5: my God, look what they did to the Chargers. But
42:11
Speaker 5: because it's the Cardinals, it's like the Chargers are done.
42:14
Speaker 5: I think there is something with this Cardinals team. If
42:17
Speaker 5: Brissette can play mistake free. They've got a couple of
42:20
Speaker 5: playmakers led by Trey McBride. Jeremiah Love's going to be really,
42:23
Speaker 5: really good. But I think the overreaction right now is
42:25
Speaker 5: the Chargers aren't good.
42:27
Speaker 3: Give me one.
42:28
Speaker 1: The Bears are going to be the highest scoring offense
42:30
Speaker 1: in NFL history.
42:32
Speaker 3: I agree.
42:33
Speaker 5: That will not happen.
42:33
Speaker 1: I think there's just a chance the Panthers don't have
42:36
Speaker 1: a very good defense. But, I mean, I do think
42:39
Speaker 1: the Bears have a dynamic offense. Don't get me wrong.
42:41
Speaker 1: I think this offense could be really, really good, and
42:43
Speaker 1: they're a handful. But let's see it a couple weeks
42:46
Speaker 1: before we start talking about the 1,000-point threshold that Ben
42:50
Speaker 1: Johnson wants to reach um I will go off of
42:54
Speaker 1: that I'll say the Texas defense is going to suck
42:57
Speaker 1: this year you think oh you're saying that's the overreaction
43:00
Speaker 1: that the Texas defense is going to suck this year I.
43:02
Speaker 5: Don't judge anything that has to do with Josh Allen
43:06
Speaker 5: Josh Allen makes all defenses look pedestrian I.
43:08
Speaker 1: Think our boy Orlovsky said it was the best he
43:11
Speaker 1: had ever seen him play oh Josh Allen the best
43:14
Speaker 1: Josh wow best Josh Allen he had seen I mean,
43:17
Speaker 1: he backed it up with his, that.
43:19
Speaker 5: Is a, an elite defense and to go on the
43:23
Speaker 5: road and to do what Josh Allen did. I mean,
43:25
Speaker 5: it didn't surprise me.
43:28
Speaker 1: Give me another one. If you have one, um, I will.
43:31
Speaker 5: Go with the New York jets. I mean, look, I
43:36
Speaker 5: know it's, it is an upgrade with Gino Smith, a quarterback,
43:41
Speaker 5: Breece Hall. I'm a big fan. Garrett Wilson, I'm a
43:43
Speaker 5: big fan, but I just don't think Aaron Glenn and,
43:46
Speaker 5: The Geno Smith combination is going to win a lot
43:48
Speaker 5: of games. So it was a nice week one win
43:51
Speaker 5: on the road, but it was also against the Titans.
43:53
Speaker 5: I think the Jets are still going to be a
43:55
Speaker 5: 6-11 type team, 5-12.
43:59
Speaker 1: Uh cowboys are done pack it in on the cowboys
44:02
Speaker 1: same old cowboys i'm not quite ready to do that
44:04
Speaker 1: i think the giants are a really good football team
44:06
Speaker 1: and the defense showed some it did it did but
44:09
Speaker 1: i mean issues you know the giants i think jackson
44:12
Speaker 1: tart's playing really good football scataboo is kind of a
44:15
Speaker 1: unicorn in this league malik neighbor is back i mean
44:18
Speaker 1: that's i think that's actually a really good.
44:19
Speaker 5: Giant no it's a really good team and you know
44:21
Speaker 5: unfortunately the rams host them on monday night where everybody's
44:24
Speaker 5: like a hornet's nest for the giants i I don't
44:26
Speaker 5: think those guys care. I don't think the moment's too big. Now,
44:29
Speaker 5: are they good enough to go on the road to
44:31
Speaker 5: SoFi and do what they did against Dallas?
44:33
Speaker 3: I don't know.
44:34
Speaker 5: They're seven and a half point underdogs, but I would
44:36
Speaker 5: think the world is, well, the world would probably be
44:38
Speaker 5: on the Giants actually.
44:40
Speaker 1: Probably so. Probably so. Which you won't, right?
44:42
Speaker 4: Yeah.
44:43
Speaker 2: I will tell you this, um, with my team and
44:46
Speaker 2: I don't believe this, but I saw a lot of
44:48
Speaker 2: this in my social media because I'm a Buccaneers fan. Um,
44:53
Speaker 2: A lot of people were overreacting instantly after the loss
44:56
Speaker 2: at Cincinnati that we shouldn't have extended Baker Mayfield.
45:00
Speaker 3: Yeah.
45:00
Speaker 1: And, I mean, the guy played his heart out. He
45:03
Speaker 1: fumbled a couple of times.
45:04
Speaker 5: He fumbled three times.
45:05
Speaker 1: While he was trying to make plays. I think his
45:07
Speaker 1: best days are behind him, in my opinion. I mean,
45:09
Speaker 1: I saw that kind of– So you wouldn't call that
45:11
Speaker 1: an overreaction then? I would not call that an overreaction.
45:13
Speaker 1: You know the film I saw today that is– It's
45:16
Speaker 1: not a big concern yet, but the Reuben Bain film
45:19
Speaker 1: is not great. Some of the film study guys are
45:23
Speaker 1: being really critical. They're like, in Miami, the guy was
45:26
Speaker 1: fast enough to run past the tackle. You don't do
45:29
Speaker 1: that in the NFL. The tackles are good in the NFL.
45:31
Speaker 1: And they're showing video of him not using any moves,
45:35
Speaker 1: no swim moves, nothing like that. He's just trying to
45:37
Speaker 1: run past the tackle. And every time, the tackle's either
45:40
Speaker 1: stoning him or just pushing him out of the play.
45:42
Speaker 1: And they're like, Reuben Bain's a little undersized. That was
45:45
Speaker 1: always the knock on him. Yeah, and he's got the
45:46
Speaker 1: short arms. And if he thinks he's just going to
45:48
Speaker 1: line up and run past NFL tackles, he's not going
45:50
Speaker 1: to do that in the NFL.
45:51
Speaker 5: Well, another overreaction would be Green Bay and the complete
45:54
Speaker 5: fourth quarter meltdown. You know, it's not going to get
45:57
Speaker 5: the same kind of play that Texas, Ohio State probably
46:01
Speaker 5: because that was a much bigger stage. but Green Bay,
46:05
Speaker 5: I think they're going to be okay. They haven't won
46:07
Speaker 5: without Micah Parsons. They've lost seven straight games now, but
46:11
Speaker 5: they can win without Micah Parsons. They do need to
46:13
Speaker 5: go on the road and beat the Jets this week
46:15
Speaker 5: as four-point favorites, but I think we are overreacting a
46:19
Speaker 5: little bit. I mean, that was a terrible meltdown, terrible penalties,
46:22
Speaker 5: some bad calls from the officials, and really a bad
46:26
Speaker 5: call from Matt LaFleur going forward on that fourth and one,
46:28
Speaker 5: not taking the points off the boards.
46:30
Speaker 1: Do you have any more? I'm overreacted. I've reacted.
46:32
Speaker 3: Okay.
46:33
Speaker 1: Everybody's got their overreactions out there.
46:35
Speaker 2: We do an NFL power ranking, five best, five worst
46:41
Speaker 2: every week. I would imagine at some point the five
46:43
Speaker 2: best and the five worst will settle into a rut
46:47
Speaker 2: in the NFL, but so far, not yet. Brought to
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46:52
Speaker 2: at our weekly power ranking in the National Football League.
46:56
Speaker 1: Oh, we got them individually.
46:57
Speaker 5: I thought it was a vote here.
46:59
Speaker 2: For me, I'm going Seahawks. You've got to beat the
47:02
Speaker 2: champions to beat the champs. I have no problem with
47:05
Speaker 2: the Rams yet. I've got the Rams 2, Bills 3,
47:08
Speaker 2: 49ers 4. That's three teams in one division, yes. And
47:12
Speaker 2: I throw the Chiefs in there at 5, reacting to
47:14
Speaker 2: last night. My five worst teams, the Commanders, the Jets,
47:18
Speaker 2: the Titans, the Browns, and I'm going to put the
47:20
Speaker 2: Dolphins dead last. Lance, give me your top five.
47:24
Speaker 5: Well, we got my bottom five in the wrong direction.
47:26
Speaker 5: That was probably on me. But my top five, San Francisco.
47:29
Speaker 1: I was about to say, you're higher on my dolphins
47:31
Speaker 1: than most. I thought San Francisco looked fantastic.
47:34
Speaker 5: Again, Seattle with Sam Darnold being a little nicked up.
47:38
Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to be as good, but
47:40
Speaker 5: I've still got to put them up top. The Bills,
47:42
Speaker 5: what Josh Allen's able to do. I was very impressed
47:45
Speaker 5: with the Ravens offense. And then the Bears.
47:49
Speaker 1: I got them at number five, but mine should be
47:51
Speaker 1: flipped around.
47:52
Speaker 5: Should be the Falcons at 28, Commanders at 29, Browns 30,
47:57
Speaker 5: Titans 31, and Dolphins 30.
48:01
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that, Lance. You did list them one
48:03
Speaker 1: through five, Miami, Titans, Browns, Commanders, Falcons.
48:06
Speaker 3: Yeah.
48:07
Speaker 2: That's the way I was going to do mine first,
48:09
Speaker 2: and then I was like, well, so I think I
48:11
Speaker 2: ended up going 28, 29, 30, 31, 32.
48:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the way I'll put it next. Because I
48:16
Speaker 1: got confused, too. At first, I was like, I had
48:18
Speaker 1: the Dolphins one, and I was like, well, if he
48:21
Speaker 1: puts it in that order, then. So I flipped it around.
48:23
Speaker 1: I was confused.
48:25
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people overreact. Nobody overreacts as
48:27
Speaker 5: Moore's Brown, though.
48:28
Speaker 1: Can I just tell you?
48:30
Speaker 5: I mean, you had LSU number one last week.
48:32
Speaker 1: They won.
48:32
Speaker 5: Bears won big.
48:34
Speaker 1: Can I tip my cap to Lance first?
48:36
Speaker 3: What?
48:37
Speaker 2: Because this was Lance's idea to do an NFL power
48:40
Speaker 2: ranking every week. And I told the guys in the
48:43
Speaker 2: back yesterday, before the Monday night game, I said, I
48:46
Speaker 2: think Lance came up with this idea because he's going
48:48
Speaker 2: to put all four of the NFC South teams in
48:51
Speaker 2: his bottom five. So I thought your bottom five would
48:55
Speaker 2: be Bucs, Falcons, Panthers, and Saints, and the Dolphins.
49:01
Speaker 5: I do think Carolina's defense is not that bad. They
49:04
Speaker 5: did get exposed, but I thought Bryce Young looked really,
49:09
Speaker 5: really good. I thought Tyler Shuck in the second half looked.
49:13
Speaker 1: Really, really good. I was prepared, though. Brooks and Forster
49:15
Speaker 1: will tell you, I was back there. I was like,
49:18
Speaker 1: I was throwing mine together, and I was like, Lance
49:20
Speaker 1: is going to have all the NFC South and the Dolphins.
49:23
Speaker 1: That's going to be his bottom five. Okay, give me yours, Brown.
49:26
Speaker 1: I did go with the Bears at the top. I mean,
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Speaker 1: how do you not? Guys, they were dominant. A dominant
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Speaker 1: win at Carolina. Scored all those points. Could LSU beat
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Speaker 1: the Bears?
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: LSU beat Bears would be a fun game. 49ers, I
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Speaker 1: was very impressed with what they did to the Rams
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Speaker 1: down in Australia. Kind of gets forgotten because it feels
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Speaker 1: like a month ago they played, honestly. uh bills look
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Speaker 1: man that's what they do they win close games and
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Speaker 1: they did it on the road against a tough defense
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Speaker 1: and a place that they had not won in a
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Speaker 1: very long time seahawks uh the champs still the champs
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Speaker 1: and i like what the ravens did in week one
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Speaker 1: my bottom five i know the raiders won the game
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Speaker 1: but just i probably watched more of that than anybody
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Speaker 1: because they were playing my dolphins um i just don't
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Speaker 1: know that long-term kirk cousins is going to have you
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Speaker 1: that good he was picking on a I'm not ready
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Speaker 1: to buy into this Raiders team just yet. Damn, you
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Speaker 1: got the Cardinals 29? They're still not great. I know
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Speaker 1: they wanted the Chargers, but this Cardinals team is still
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Speaker 1: not good. The Browns, Titans, and Dolphins are the easiest ones.
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Speaker 1: Are they 29 bad? Yes.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Wait until you see the rest of the season. I
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Speaker 1: think we'll.
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Speaker 5: Have a little fluctuation on our top and bottom five
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Speaker 5: next week.
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Speaker 1: Brown, as much as you overreact on winners, you've got
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Speaker 1: two 1-0 teams in your bottom five. Yeah, wait to
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Speaker 1: see if I'm right, though. Can I not be right
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Speaker 1: at the end of the year? Larry Zaka, God rest
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Speaker 1: his soul, can't pop a champagne bottle on the Cardinals
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Speaker 1: and Raiders yet.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's amazing. We've all three got different teams at
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Speaker 5: the top, but we all three agree the Dolphins are
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Speaker 5: the worst.
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Speaker 1: I mean, how could you not?
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Speaker 2: of here is an NFL thought. And this came, I believe,
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Speaker 2: from Yahoo Sports that showed this to me. Two different
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Speaker 2: things from Yahoo. One of them, first time ever, I think,
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Speaker 2: they said that the 16 outcomes in the opening week
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Speaker 2: of the NFL were were all decided by 16 different
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Speaker 2: point margins.
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Speaker 1: There was a one-point victory, a two-point victory. Rams were
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Speaker 1: a 20-point victory, but there was no duplication. There were
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Speaker 1: 16 different. There weren't two threes or sevens? That is crazy.
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Speaker 1: That's impossible. 16 different point margins of victory.
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Speaker 5: The first one was a three-point margin last Wednesday night
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Speaker 5: with the Seahawks over the Patriots.
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Speaker 3: Rams 26-1-13.
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Speaker 5: You're right, 18.
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Speaker 1: I think it was Yahoo. Eagles-Commanders was a one-point game.
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Speaker 1: And so was Minnesota and New Orleans. I can't be right.
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Speaker 1: Weren't they both one-point games? Lions and Saints 31-30. Two-point
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Speaker 1: were Eagles and Commanders. Three-point Seahawks and Patriots. Five was
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Speaker 1: the Bills and the Texans. Six was Bengals-Bucks. Seven, Steelers-Falcons. Eight, Giants-Cowboys.
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Speaker 2: Twelve, Cardinals-Chargers. Thirteen, Jets and Titans. 14 Raiders and Dolphins,
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Speaker 2: 17 Vikings and Packers, 18 Ravens and Colts, 20 49ers
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Speaker 2: and Rams, 21 Chiefs and Broncos, 22 Bears and Panthers,
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Speaker 2: and 24 Jaguars and Browns.
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Speaker 1: That is really impossible. Yeah, that's crazy.
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Speaker 5: But you've got to.
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Speaker 1: Have somebody looking at that going, you know what?
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Speaker 5: All those scores were different.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you come up with those. Stat
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Speaker 1: guru Lee Sharpe. is the first person to notice that.
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Speaker 1: Good job. Right after the Monday Night Football. It's just
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Speaker 1: hard to believe you don't have a bunch of threes
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Speaker 1: and sevens. It's such a common score, you know. And
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Speaker 1: also from Yahoo, Jalen Hurts is unbeaten in season openers
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Speaker 1: when he is the starter. 2017 at Alabama, 24-7 over
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Speaker 1: Florida State. 2019 at Oklahoma, 49-31 over Houston.
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Speaker 2: And in six years as the starting quarterback for Philadelphia,
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Speaker 2: they are 6-0.
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Speaker 1: Wow. In opening games. I mean, if he had started
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Speaker 1: against that USC team, he would have done the same
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Speaker 1: exact thing.
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Speaker 5: He would have.
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Speaker 2: So, crazy stat from Jalen Hurts there from Yahoo Sports.
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