Latest / The ExtraCooler Show / 103 | Hulk Hogan vs. The Genius - Saturday Night's Main Event - November 25, 1989
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- 0:01Welcome to Washington. This is Lord trakula and welcome
- 0:08to the extra cooler show. No teeth.
- 0:11Beefaroni on a boat man. That's the problem right there.
- 0:43Welcome to a brand new episode of the extra cooler show.
- 0:46My name is Nick otherwise known as extra cooler.
- 0:49This week we've got Matt, we've got Jim and he's fresh off of
- 0:55celebrating his birthday. Welcome back, Michael.
- 0:58Work-rate, did you have a good birthday?
- 1:01I did. Thank you very much, I
- 1:02appreciate that. Happy first.
- 1:04First one across the four. You one threshold out of thank
- 1:07you. Yeah, thank you very much for
- 1:11calling that out way to 82 Jesus.
- 1:16Okay, I'm gonna sign off now. I think, as usual, you guys can
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- 1:28Yes. Thank you.
- 1:29Thank you. A lot of fun.
- 1:31They're a lot of fun. Hell yeah.
- 1:32Tell your friends. All right.
- 1:34Gifts that. I love that.
- 1:35Adams, awesome with the gifts. Matt, you've got some
- 1:42housekeeping, I believe. So, why don't you take it away
- 1:44II, certainly do. So I'm gonna prove that I'm a
- 1:48hack last week because we talked about the third announcer on the
- 1:53NXT table and I was like, I think he was, I think he's also
- 1:56on commentary for our Ring of Honor.
- 1:58Nope, way off. So, the third commentator on the
- 2:01booth last week was Percy, Watkins, Percy Watson.
- 2:05Who was a former WWE guy but Caprice Coleman was the
- 2:11gentleman on Ring of Honor that I was thinking of totally
- 2:14screwed it up. I apologize or see Caprice.
- 2:17You can't be playing for that. But the, the real homework here,
- 2:21the real housekeeping, pardon me was no one brought up that.
- 2:24Somebody did write an NXT book. So I popped it up on the screen
- 2:29for us here. It's called the future is a
- 2:32neck. Is now an x t it is.
- 2:36Written by a gentleman named John Robinson.
- 2:38And Vincent, Kennedy McMahon himself wrote the foreword, it's
- 2:42320 Pages. It was published in 2017 and it
- 2:46has a 4 and a half out of five rating on Amazon, which I
- 2:50thought was pretty cool. The little intro for it was the
- 2:52first comprehensive book of WWE's hottest brand.
- 2:56NXT, the future is now follows the rise of WWE's popular NXT
- 3:00brand from its conception to the brink of taking over WWE with
- 3:04its own rabid. Like I thought was really cool
- 3:07interesting cover itself, looks awesome with demon Finn up there
- 3:10and some other major players including biggie.
- 3:14Seth Rollins, Sasha Banks Charlene fo ya exam.
- 3:20I know you think this is a WWE Like official book.
- 3:25It's got the logo on it. The foreword by vids.
- 3:28I did not dive that deep into it housekeeping, more housekeeping.
- 3:32That's for nothing. It's got to be.
- 3:36Yeah, and the logo is front and center on.
- 3:39Yeah, I mean I have the Scout link, I'll share it with you
- 3:43guys. Gotta be.
- 3:43If you guys are way too early for they need, we need a couple
- 3:47more years on there, I think. Yeah.
- 3:49But that's like Peak NXT. I feel like, yeah, I guess so if
- 3:53you guys haven't already, if you're listening to this episode
- 3:56and you haven't done it, go listen to last week's episode
- 3:59with Nolan AKA no Laney. Mm.
- 4:02It was, it was a fantastic time. Talking about his Martin his
- 4:06experiences, I'm bummed I missed it.
- 4:08It was a, it was a good one. Yeah, it really was.
- 4:11It was a pleasure. So, yeah, we're ready to dive
- 4:15into this week's homework. So we went back to the well with
- 4:20assigning homework and each of us are taking turns, but of
- 4:24course, there are some stipulations.
- 4:26So this week is Jim's match, and the stipulations that we
- 4:30provided him are the following. My stipulation was Was that it
- 4:36has to feature a wrestler with one name and it cannot be
- 4:40Skinner. Jim's favorite wrestler of the,
- 4:43I love that stipulation actually Mike then threw in that it
- 4:47cannot be a tag team match. That's what really kind of like
- 4:51threw me for a loop. Honestly, that way because of
- 4:54Nick stipulation because I didn't want like Acts or yeah or
- 4:58something. Yeah excellent.
- 5:00And then Matt's was that it had to be longer than seven minutes
- 5:04because really A lot of these guys are like one name guys, I
- 5:09don't know, it's, you could be hit or miss Nails.
- 5:11He's not going more than three minutes joke, right?
- 5:14Someone out and like to write right beserker so that being
- 5:18said, we also if the was sometimes included in that
- 5:25wrestlers name, we omitted that we didn't you were allowed to
- 5:30pick that guy like because he loophole was trying to hold us
- 5:33to and even like that. Well it's kind of like fringy
- 5:37because we look for example, some people refer to him as the
- 5:40Undertaker and then you go look him up on wwe.com and He's
- 5:44listed as Undertaker. So yeah.
- 5:47Not to get to, you know, in the weeds and the, you know, kind of
- 5:53I don't know, whatever of the Linguistics or whatever you want
- 5:57to put it as I'm failing and bringing.
- 5:59Yeah, I work, you know, when they do when you alphabetize
- 6:03wrestlers or like bands a classic Bands.
- 6:06Right. The, whoever The Strokes, the,
- 6:07whatever, it's always with The Strokes.
- 6:10We asked the class should be under 6, right?
- 6:12Absolutely. So drop the the and yeah.
- 6:15Here we are. Right here, we are so Jim's
- 6:18match. Of choice is from November 25th,
- 6:201989 Saturday, night's Main Event, season 5, episode 7 on
- 6:25peacock and it is the WWF Champion, Hulk Hogan versus
- 6:30none. Other than Genius.
- 6:34Hello. I always call them the genius.
- 6:36Yeah. Yeah.
- 6:39A little image behind him when he's cutting that 17 second
- 6:42promo. It says the the behind him the
- 6:45genius in his cap and gown and all its.
- 6:48So I hope some people like I should have given a light.
- 6:51Lengthy, pause to see if I could have introduced it as Hulk Hogan
- 6:55versus, and they knew the year, like, if anybody would have
- 6:58guessed and pegged genius because I that didn't and I I'm
- 7:02so excited to watch this match. Yeah.
- 7:05There's like no other reason. We probably would have been
- 7:07covering this. I actually I think I might have
- 7:09brought it up like or a genius match right after he passed
- 7:12which is not too long ago. Right?
- 7:14Right. But I don't think it was this
- 7:17match but I somehow I stumbled upon this article that what
- 7:21culture, I believe it is put out and it's like Hulk Hogan's.
- 7:24They cover. They rank, Hulk Hogan's. 26
- 7:27losses from like his Heyday up until two thousand from fish,
- 7:31you know, from least fishy. She's like losing to Warrior at
- 7:3462, most fishy, which I'm not sure what number one is but the
- 7:37genius matches on there. I was like, whoa, I had no idea
- 7:40about this match. So hold on.
- 7:42A second 2026, is the number six.
- 7:45Total losses includes DQ count-out.
- 7:49Yeah. Just twenty six losses in his
- 7:51Hulkamania and you know, WCW Roman Reigns and Cena laugh at
- 7:55that. Yeah. 26 is impressive in 8422.
- 8:022000. Is that what?
- 8:03Yeah, yes, that's wild. It was wild.
- 8:07That really is in 16 years, that's averaging and it over
- 8:11under to a year over two companies Dooms on there right
- 8:20now. That's probably the most fishy.
- 8:23Yeah. Oh no, he wins.
- 8:24Sorry buddy, Marco. So this this Saturday night's
- 8:30main event is jam-packed. Um, there's some other things on
- 8:35the card that we kind of have to at least touch on correct that
- 8:39the episode starts by punching you in the face with the
- 8:42Ultimate Warrior. And he's out here screaming and
- 8:45Andre the Giant and Manny's talk about Jack and the Beanstalk.
- 8:49Those are the only four words I made out.
- 8:52Yeah. Yeah, good figured out.
- 8:55This is Intercontinental title. Yes, Ultimate Warrior.
- 8:58Like right we're like six months before WrestleMania 6.
- 9:01So just Give that timeline. It's the beautiful way to like
- 9:05kick off Saturday night's main event.
- 9:06To, they've got the green screen in the background with the
- 9:10Ultimate Warrior and all of his logos around him.
- 9:12He's looking vascular. And he's looking absolutely
- 9:15insane. And he's screaming into the
- 9:17microphone about. How should I just try to do the
- 9:21whole thing? I wrote?
- 9:22Yeah, he see if I can Channel my inner World.
- 9:26Here we go. You better remember.
- 9:30Checking the Beanstalk for tonight.
- 9:32I am going to chop you down here.
- 9:37I need to learn chop you down to size is little his nipple
- 9:44Whitehead sir. Quivering top off those things.
- 9:48Look like they belong on a Ren and Stimpy episode, like zoom in
- 9:53really close with that was really gross but it drives it
- 10:01jumps right into To Bobby Heenan and Andre the Giant directly
- 10:06after cutting a promo on him and this promo not knowing the words
- 10:11that he's. Yeah, this promo has to be what?
- 10:15Dan Soder like bases. His impersonation off of I much
- 10:20I felt I win. That was awful on.
- 10:24Yeah, totally. I will ya.
- 10:33Man, Dan Soder is the best like the best Macho, the best Andre
- 10:37he's coming around to Poughkeepsie New York very soon.
- 10:39And I know Mike brought it up to us.
- 10:42We have to go. We have to go.
- 10:43He's so good. Just where, Andre, the Giant
- 10:46t-shirts in the front row, and just, just, we're like his semi.
- 10:50We want to reach out to ask him for some tickets.
- 10:54There's odor. I wouldn't say no.
- 10:57Anyway, that should be in a kid though, and you're like you
- 11:00catch the beginning of this, you're all in.
- 11:02In 04 your seat and you got, you got an Intercontinental title
- 11:06match and a WF Champion which is the first half-hour.
- 11:09Yeah, exactly. Within the first half hour, like
- 11:12this Williams car stop. Yep.
- 11:19Almost wish. I was like, at least a teenager
- 11:21or an adult back then because I think I would have been a huge
- 11:25Heenan Family Guy. I like I would have gotten so
- 11:28much into Andre and miss, you know, I'm obviously missed a
- 11:31perfect guy. Fairy tales grow up Warrior.
- 11:36Yeah, so good. It really is.
- 11:40We ready to talk about this? This big match before we do
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- 13:35So it looks like corn for his porn.
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- 13:50taste the 8.2%. So it's, it's alright, you're
- 13:53gonna be spitting poetry in a bit just like the genius
- 13:57hulkster down. Jim.
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- 14:04So I'm like, going through all my fridge beers, like, digging
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- 14:32nobody out but on the the can hear there's like zombies
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- 14:41at school again. Yeah.
- 14:42No. It's actually really it's still
- 14:44really tasty like it's it's held up in the eight months that it's
- 14:48been in the fridge? I dig it.
- 14:50I've got a my guess you could say.
- 14:52It's my, I'm like Miller Lite of tequila.
- 14:54It's not as spallone. It's my go-to.
- 14:58It's nice and it's Affordable and I just bought myself a big
- 15:02handle of it. That will probably be gone
- 15:03before summer. Wait, what?
- 15:06What rhymes with tequila. So, you can do a poem, like the
- 15:09genius. Yeah, you're talking to the
- 15:11wrong guy. I don't think there's anything
- 15:13that. Yeah, the trick question, my son
- 15:17is currently big on, like rhyming and everything is
- 15:19completely off. I look at him every time that
- 15:23does not rhyme. That's fun, though.
- 15:26Yeah. Alright, so here we are our Um
- 15:29work of the week is Jim's match Saturday night's main event.
- 15:32From 1989. It's season 5 episode 7 and
- 15:37we've got at 16 minutes and 40 seconds.
- 15:40The start of Hulk Hogan versus The Genius.
- 15:43Things kick off with Jesse Ventura backstage with the
- 15:46genius as he is smiling and blinking.
- 15:49Uncontrollable, I mean like this is an understatement.
- 15:54This guy is blinking like once every half second.
- 15:57If you think he, I think he is. Ling the place.
- 16:00And I think it's a weird thing, he's doing.
- 16:03Yeah, the way I describe it is not the, he definitely has full
- 16:06control of his feelings, like a cartoon, like cat flirting, like
- 16:10or something. Yeah, that's a good way of
- 16:13putting it. He's like batting his eyes.
- 16:14Yes. Padding his eyes?
- 16:16Yes. I instantly thought as he as
- 16:18soon as he starts talking he's so animated.
- 16:21I instantly thought Jesus Christ.
- 16:23I hate this guy, already. What's the point though, right?
- 16:27Exactly. He does a great job.
- 16:30I immediately think of Mark, marrows character, Johnny be
- 16:35bad, has to have been influenced by The Genius, the really good
- 16:38call. Just just a lot of similarities
- 16:41between the two, especially on the mic in my leave him.
- 16:45What about Damien Sandow? That's true too.
- 16:48Yeah, but that's later on like like, well, you need to do that
- 16:51is just a few years after in WCW.
- 16:54I mean a mix of the genius and yeah and Little Richard.
- 16:58Yeah. I love it.
- 17:01How Vince says that the genius poses a threat to Hogan's reign
- 17:06as champion. And we talked about this off are
- 17:09like what a strange time in WWF right now that the genius gets a
- 17:15title match. Yeah, so this is 89, right?
- 17:19So Vermont Hogan is what at 89 is he is it a him and Beefcake
- 17:25against Zeus and Macho. Is that was that?
- 17:29Are you sure? Sure.
- 17:30No, it's Survivor series is coming up.
- 17:32He's kind of in between right because then he's going to the
- 17:34win, the rumble soon. This is November.
- 17:37And then of course he's going to drop the title to Warrior.
- 17:40So like Nick like he said, this is a strange time I guess.
- 17:44They don't really know what they're doing with them almost
- 17:46right. Right?
- 17:46No they can't. They they're trying to figure it
- 17:48out there, trying to find a foil for him.
- 17:51And we're going to talk about that later.
- 17:53Yeah. Because there is a point thingy
- 17:54comes up, Royal Rumble. 90, you know, who has his first and only
- 17:59Pay-per-view match. The genius that is only
- 18:05pay-per-view match. Jesus got a rocket strapped to
- 18:07his back here. Maybe, yeah, it's like well,
- 18:09your brother can do it. And so, let's see what you got?
- 18:11Pal. And Manny Lenny Lenny.
- 18:15He was going to get fired. I think, you know with the
- 18:20leaping Lanny poffo gimmick. Oh yeah, came up with the genius
- 18:23serious. Okay firing.
- 18:25Yeah, this whole throwing frisbees into the audience and
- 18:29yeah, I don't know how that's going to go over.
- 18:31Yeah. And wearing like, the graduation
- 18:34cap and gown, I don't know interesting.
- 18:38But that that promo back stages is an odd one.
- 18:42I think everybody that knows. The genius, knows he's known for
- 18:46his poetry and Lanny poffo himself, is known for that too.
- 18:51You know, I find you boring. I find it yet.
- 18:53Oh yeah, his Hall of Fame speech is just or not how his Hall of
- 18:57Fame speech, but like when he gave his brothers Hall of Fame
- 19:00speech, It's more of that and it's nauseating to me a setup.
- 19:11Yeah. Just real quick.
- 19:12Only because you mentioned the cap and gown.
- 19:14Do you find it interesting that he wears the cap and gown,
- 19:17right? Of course and his brother the
- 19:19other poffo and the wrestling business.
- 19:22I'm using the same Eric comes out to the pop insert their e.
- 19:24Interesting. What's with these brothers and
- 19:26their obsession with graduation stuff, you know, like it's very
- 19:31true. Hurry, because the point, the
- 19:32mom go around giving commencement speeches.
- 19:34I don't know like what? Yeah, you gotta graduate.
- 19:37Yeah yeah boys you guys are graduate maybe that's what it
- 19:40was. Those two sickos in your house
- 19:42and right. You like, oh God yeah it's
- 19:44blinking at me. Do we have anything on genius
- 20:07for getting promo? We I have.
- 20:10I pulled the like 17. S little spurt out the
- 20:14beginning. So yes please you gotta.
- 20:15We gotta hear it. Let's play it.
- 20:18Pay attention to me. I'm the genius, a poet, a
- 20:20wrestler and more. I'm the wisest man since the
- 20:23world began aglow with credentials Galore, kunai time
- 20:26alone, with Hulk Hogan, he's quite a bit larger than you but
- 20:30that doesn't matter. His head is much better.
- 20:32His belt will look Splendid on me, just listening to the way he
- 20:37speaks pisses me off. It's like a, it's like you sick
- 20:40and the background. That's the serenade.
- 20:42Yeah. Event stuff.
- 20:44Oh right. Right.
- 20:45It's Angela Hogan won. Its intensity to the A tree
- 20:48though. It really does.
- 20:49He had his copy girth? Me, it's like a Hallmark type
- 20:52rhyming though, right? Yes, you wouldn't called poetry,
- 20:56and it's just like classic fourth grade pose.
- 20:59Yeah, I was just going to say it's like in elementary school
- 21:01when you first taught, what poetry is and I was like, I
- 21:04think poetry is ionic pentameter.
- 21:06Is that what it's called? I'm like having flashbacks to
- 21:081989 in elementary school. Go write a sonnet you, you
- 21:15sumbitch. So, Right.
- 21:17After they played that one, they go right into the Hogan one
- 21:21which is equally as good. So I'm going to hit play on this
- 21:23one too. You know, genius tonight, we're
- 21:26gonna find out. So you really are when you try
- 21:29to solve the problem that Einstein Socrates, and Plato
- 21:33couldn't saw what you're gonna do.
- 21:35When Hulkamania runs wild on you, Socrates where we where we
- 21:45getting Einstein with Socrates and Plato to like these are like
- 21:50two of them are like I took philosophy 101.
- 21:52Okay. I got a D in it but whatever.
- 21:54I learn something that means. But in a nice like it's totally
- 21:58different guys, what are you talking about?
- 21:59Hoagie? They're equally Geniuses know.
- 22:02So yeah, okay. Are there in the same
- 22:04Stratosphere as the leaping Lanny?
- 22:07The genius. Is that where we're going?
- 22:09It's good. Hogan.
- 22:10I'm stretching here. I'll tell ya contortionist God.
- 22:15So Hogan tells does some math, right?
- 22:19Tells him that he doesn't have a chance as well, like Steiner
- 22:23myth. Yeah.
- 22:24Jeez pains me, pains me. Genius is so.
- 22:29Okay, so we can we get to the action, right?
- 22:32This Hogan have anything interesting when he comes down
- 22:34the aisle. No, right.
- 22:35You just standard Hogan coming down the aisle.
- 22:37His hair looks very dry. Like Use the little too much
- 22:41conditioner. It's dry.
- 22:42And there's more than like, you should.
- 22:46Yeah. There's more than usual because
- 22:47we're in 1989, like, it's like we're headed to a little bit
- 22:50further down the path here. That hair is going away.
- 22:53It feels the what's the word form.
- 22:57It's very full volume. It's yeah.
- 22:59Volumes not is still the word as usual.
- 23:03No Hogan difference. Yeah, he's got a round head to,
- 23:07I don't know. This is like Prime, like Steroid
- 23:11puffy face home. Yeah.
- 23:12I feel like he's going skinny head soon.
- 23:14Yeah. Oh, very soon.
- 23:15Um, so. All right.
- 23:17So they get in the ring. I'm sorry.
- 23:19I thought you guys were talking about the Geniuses hair because
- 23:22he's got like the bangs like a. Yeah, another weirdo.
- 23:26Like when a woman goes with the bangs cut, you know, once in a
- 23:29while, you know, not actually like it just like yeah.
- 23:31She's got a distinct look to it. Yeah yeah.
- 23:34Never a good idea. So When sorry, I'm losing my
- 23:43place because I'm talking about this.
- 23:45We got Geniuses in there and he's starting off with a
- 23:48left-handed handshake. It's bizarre and you're a lefty
- 23:52neck and yeah, you know, that's just, that's just something
- 23:55that's. Yeah disrespectful, right?
- 23:57Like, did he do that on purpose and then Hogan goes to do?
- 24:01It's very strange. Like they do like a dance in the
- 24:05middle of the field. This musical handshake.
- 24:10And Lefty, and then puts his hand out righty.
- 24:12As Hogan, goes to put out his left hand and then they're
- 24:15dancing back and forth. Yeah, it's just the beginning of
- 24:19the genius starting to mock Hogan, which is his, like, his
- 24:24whole tactic for this match. So after that, he goes, heads
- 24:27over to the corner and he does some light stretching in the
- 24:31corner. I never noticed the genius with
- 24:34his high IQ boots and there is a pretty cool actually, I think,
- 24:37yes, H it says like hike you Yeah.
- 24:40Right like yes and then I never realized it because I don't
- 24:44think I've ever really watched a genius match before.
- 24:46Like our Inception with the genius was when he was with mr.
- 24:51Perfect, which is you know, shortly after, but it's very
- 24:56strange match. It's a computer genius.
- 24:59Just not to correct you. But back in the day, I believe
- 25:01there was a genius to match on. One of those tapes that we used
- 25:04to make you wash it, endlessly. Yes, four matches.
- 25:08I think one was a Yeah demolition against the powers of
- 25:12pain. Yes.
- 25:12A good like 20 minutes and you have to understand brother work.
- 25:15So yeah it's almost or another another minute.
- 25:16Next thing. I like 20 minutes later than
- 25:18that, just still going on. But genius was somewhere in
- 25:21there. So you might have blocked it out
- 25:23of your minds. Sorry, go ahead.
- 25:29He I want to know, I really, as I was watching this, I thought
- 25:33and I know we've talked to, and we joked about this, right?
- 25:36But Lanny poffo is a really interesting, dude, and I want to
- 25:39know How much of what he's doing in the ring is character versus
- 25:44real life. It's really strange right?
- 25:48Home and throws genius out of the ring above the bottom rope,
- 25:52if that makes sense, right? It's very interesting the way he
- 25:55does it but then Hogan applauds the Geniuses athletic ability
- 25:59right after that, the way he gets back in the ring.
- 26:01Like it's almost like he's skins the cat, but pulls himself up
- 26:05every single time. You we mentioned this.
- 26:08You've got Vince and Ventura on commentary.
- 26:13I'm trying to paint a picture. You got Peak Hogan right?
- 26:16He's Peak skin of a hot dog, like picture a hot dog and
- 26:20that's Hulk Hogan is at this sign.
- 26:22Um, at one point, genius tries to get in some offense, he can't
- 26:28do it. So he heads out of the ring and
- 26:29grabs his like scroll and it starts, it's essentially a
- 26:33glorified clipboard running, right shaped like a scroll.
- 26:36It's actually actually pretty funny.
- 26:38Yeah, whoo yes. Math on there, right?
- 26:41Yes, starts doing math which is I got the equation.
- 26:44If you do a complete rebuttal from when Hogan in his promo,
- 26:49leading up to this match, pulls out his own, mathematical
- 26:51equation. Yes, which is hilarious to me
- 26:54the three demand minutes of training demand mints.
- 26:57It like sounds like Commandments.
- 26:59It is exactly what he says the Reid Amendment the prayers and
- 27:03the vitamins. Plus the 24-inch pythons times
- 27:05the all those those Hoka Maniacs equals Victory.
- 27:08So genius. - sounds like Mikey were crates.
- 27:11Got his his mathematical equation.
- 27:13Yeah. So he writes down 310 pounds
- 27:18over 6 feet, 8 inches and there's like a less than sign
- 27:24and it says 313 and like square root of 36.
- 27:29Yeah over 40. What is that like the quality of
- 27:32that quadratic equation on one? Yeah yeah and then below that he
- 27:37writes Hulk down So let's let's get down to brass tacks here.
- 27:43Mikey you were in advanced math back in the day, right?
- 27:46Right. You like you skipped a math
- 27:48grade or whatever was so does the through the numbers?
- 27:52Add up? What do you think?
- 27:54I made it down this equation, makes no sense.
- 27:58I mean, Hulk does go down at one point because yeah, he T takes a
- 28:02legit back bumper. Yeah, it's it's foreign to watch
- 28:06Hogan legitimately like out of training school back bump style
- 28:11like oh yeah full out. Yeah, it's strange to this guy
- 28:15of all guys, they get in and once again he pulls himself back
- 28:19into the ring with the skin, the cat and Hogan kind of like lets
- 28:22him have The moment he throws his hands out every time the
- 28:29genius gets in any bit of offense.
- 28:31He celebrates any by celebrating.
- 28:34I mean he prances around the ring, I wrote down frolicking
- 28:38but yeah printing works too. I just I can't help but think
- 28:42and every single time I see the genius prancing around the ring
- 28:46frolicking around the ring. I can't help but hear the safety
- 28:50dance in my head and perhaps For anyone that has seen that music
- 28:55video there, like a line of people prancing through out the
- 29:00body field. It's a, it's tremendous and you
- 29:05can come down. He comes down to no music, he
- 29:07should come down to this. Like I look down to the ring.
- 29:09You can they were the genius. They were inspired by Lani?
- 29:13Yeah, they were definitely. He slaps the shit out of Hogan
- 29:17you know. And like what I was like oh my
- 29:20God. And that food?
- 29:22Yes, eating down. Down.
- 29:24Hey, hey. Hey hey.
- 29:26Yeah, he prances away. Earl hebner like gets in between
- 29:30them and then Hogan, kind of like, gives the genius, the
- 29:32ring, and he lets him do this routine.
- 29:35It's like what Mart were was just doing at gymnastics
- 29:38tonight, but like, he would have only scored like a for honest.
- 29:42She was there, we just went to the New York state championships
- 29:45in Long Island this past weekend.
- 29:48She placed 10th overall. We were very happy to provide
- 29:51credible. Yeah, pretty awesome.
- 29:52But yeah, My lap the judge or anything like she didn't but at
- 29:56this point in the match Hogan is like he's visibly frustrated and
- 30:00that is the genius is tactics. Hogan is playing right into it.
- 30:04Jesse Ventura is telling us all about how this is.
- 30:07This is playing right into the Geniuses handgun.
- 30:10Victoria one point goes, God is walking computer.
- 30:15So Hogan is now like leaning up against the top.
- 30:18Turnbuckle just leaning against it and waving his hands like
- 30:22yeah, go ahead go. Have some fun prints around and
- 30:25then I'm fairly certain. It's a back.
- 30:28Walkover, is what? I'm glad we hung a handed it to
- 30:31you because I would want anybody followed by a cartwheel, a very
- 30:35good cartwheel. I must say I've seen eight
- 30:38million of them in my life over the last five years.
- 30:41Can you do one? I don't know.
- 30:44I have not. Attempted a very long time.
- 30:46It can't be more more housekeeping or housekeeping
- 30:50concept which it is test. Memorial Day Weekend.
- 30:53Hogan Hogan has had enough at this point.
- 30:55He takes genius corner to corner and it's like at this moment
- 31:00where Hogan's getting his offense in.
- 31:02But genius, I'm thinking, genius is ahead of his time in a way.
- 31:06He's with the Prancing and follicle.
- 31:09Yeah, the Prancing, the frolicking, he's extremely
- 31:12flamboyant in the ring, that's like that.
- 31:15Best way I could describe him. He's old-school do that.
- 31:18Yes. We saves ahead of his time, but
- 31:19he's doing the, you know, reach shoemakers book, right?
- 31:22Like, it, goes back to the Gorgeous George stuff, right?
- 31:25Like it's Nature Boy. What's named, Buddy, Rogers,
- 31:29right? Yes, it's going to that like,
- 31:31he, it's so he knows exactly. Especially these older crowds
- 31:35like it's different today where everyone's like fragmented and
- 31:38run things different things. But back then like the crowd is
- 31:41Unified. And yes, hatred like yeah.
- 31:44Nobody's really Good job today but yet.
- 31:46No. Really and they hate his guts
- 31:48every little thing. He does every little thing he
- 31:50does. It's perfect.
- 31:52So speaking of perfect. Mr. Perfect comes down the ring
- 31:56at this time. And this is like how they align
- 32:00themselves with each other. I'm assuming perfect goes right.
- 32:04For the winged Eagle tells us Hogan is not a perfect champion,
- 32:07and at this belt is not a perfect belt until it's around
- 32:10his waist. He takes his gum out and sticks
- 32:12it right in the middle of the most beautiful belt.
- 32:15Defamation. It really is.
- 32:17It gets worse. Well, we just passed over when
- 32:25Hulk Hogan. You know, he what does he do?
- 32:29He oh yeah, you're right. We the oh yes, I'm sorry about
- 32:34the mix. The mix.
- 32:37We're talking about here. Yes, it's a reverse double and
- 32:41the straight up. No, no.
- 32:42It's a straight, I don't know. You're correct, you're correct.
- 32:47Belly belly to belly to back. So, yes, it is a problem on his
- 32:50butt drop some on his ass and don't see that anymore, the sell
- 32:54job that the genius does is like, think of like the wacky
- 32:59inflatable Tube Man. They like going back and forth
- 33:02but just one arm up in the air, not to just one arm up in the
- 33:05air and way. Yeah, I had that were that see,
- 33:08like most, like, really thing you've ever standing, was really
- 33:11an analogy you've ever made ready.
- 33:14I was like, how are you Describe this and then you just nailed it
- 33:17and then the best part is right after Hogan does the same thing.
- 33:20Mimics mm! Somebody needs to make a gif of
- 33:22this because it would be absolutely tremendous.
- 33:25It would go viral in a heartbeat of just hosing percent.
- 33:29I'm usually not a Hogan guy at all, but he makes me laugh in
- 33:33this match. Oh yes, he's not even like he
- 33:36doesn't hate the genius. He's just so annoyed by like,
- 33:38this whole like, is this really happening like?
- 33:41Yeah, it's like yeah, it's probably Hogan's.
- 33:44Worst match ever feel like you pretended wrestling was real
- 33:47like this was like his head was not in the game you know he's
- 33:50just like no feeding it to this nonsense from this little man
- 33:53Hogan's wrestling you know Savage and Bundy and the Andre
- 33:57the Giant like in his past years now he's like dealing with this
- 34:00bullshit. Like then definitely like he's
- 34:02like all right you're gonna this is what you're going to give me.
- 34:05All right? This is town.
- 34:06I'm gonna handle it. Kind of leave it without just
- 34:11like a Shawn Michaels Hogan things.
- 34:14Yes, later when he liked over cells, the shit out of
- 34:16everything, it's kind of in the same vein of like ho goes out
- 34:20here and and like I said, Ventura is talking about how he
- 34:24Hogan is used to going up against these super heavyweights
- 34:27and you know, how is he going to deal with the athleticism of of,
- 34:31of the genius? And like this is it, he's just a
- 34:34annoyed by it and he's just mocking him throughout the
- 34:37entire match. Great, that's great.
- 34:39So Michaels ghost has come up inside like yeah, right.
- 34:42Thank you. Hogan gets distracted by mr.
- 34:46Perfect. Like we were talking about and
- 34:48this is when the genius, finally get some offense in.
- 34:51And at one point genius does like a, I can't even call it a
- 34:54moonsault because it's more of a like a backflip off the top
- 34:57rope. Yeah, Vince gives us over here.
- 35:04It's so he jumps up both feet on the middle rope.
- 35:08He doesn't get much air. He he drops.
- 35:12All right, so he drops both. Feet onto the middle, rope puts
- 35:15his left foot on the top, and then flips, backwards and lands
- 35:20the moonsault essentially onto Hogan.
- 35:23And it's the most awkward camera angle of a penis.
- 35:25I think I've ever seen because it's just like the straight shot
- 35:29into the Geniuses ask where you have the tanning lines, where
- 35:35you've watched too many. Ahmed Johnson.
- 35:39Don't essentially his moonsault. Alright, like think about it
- 35:42like this. If you The poop on your
- 35:46basketball hoop and you dunk on an 8-foot thing, right?
- 35:48Like you barely get your fingers over.
- 35:49Yeah. And the NBA guys, in the
- 35:52All-Star, in the, you know, Slam Dunk Contest.
- 35:54Do some crazy Wind Mill. Talk you both dunk that the
- 35:57other day, right? This is true.
- 35:59Yeah, moonsault, someone salt, yeah, okay, scared away from,
- 36:02don't take away from Lanny. All right, then so at this point
- 36:08Hogan, of course, has the Hulk Up Genius cells.
- 36:11The hulka like a bizarre scared. A child like I can't even read
- 36:16well described it. He does like the very dramatic
- 36:21over his mouth. He gets the first guy to die in
- 36:25a horror movie. That's how he's saying yes.
- 36:26Yes yes. He gives the big boot but the
- 36:31genius gets up and rakes the back of Hogan and Hogan Hogan
- 36:35and repays, the favor and does it to poffo and Lanny poffo.
- 36:39Prances, once again around the ring flailing his arms Arms
- 36:44around like a little Jezebel. I don't know how else to
- 36:50describe it. It's like looks like it's in
- 36:52slow motion. It's so animated the way he's
- 36:54just flailing his arms around wacky inflatable Tube Man.
- 36:58Right, I love that Ventura playing.
- 37:02The heel commentator is like Geniuses stooping to Hogan's
- 37:05level. It's like that.
- 37:06I love that. Yeah, it's totally something.
- 37:09I would say about Bret Hart, get about 20 back rakes in this
- 37:14Alright lot of back-breaking Hogan Scoops up the genius dump
- 37:17some over-the-top and he throws him like a lawn dart.
- 37:21Yeah mr. Perfect helps genius up.
- 37:25But at this point Hogan comes out and and gets knocked out by
- 37:28the wing Eagle. Hogan gets counted out and the
- 37:34best is perfect, goes, grabs the robe, grabs the belt and the
- 37:37scroll and runs in the ring, throws the robe.
- 37:41The graduation gown on the genius.
- 37:44You the brown Scurry out? Yeah, very James Brown esque
- 37:47and, and then it's like over Sarah.
- 37:49Mine made a man has had enough. They don't want to watch that.
- 37:53Vince is like, that's enough TV time for these guys.
- 37:55Yeah. And it's done, this has to be
- 37:57the fastest count out in the world.
- 37:59Yes, like easily. It was a blame Greece and then
- 38:01then the bell rings and I was like, okay, did did perfect just
- 38:04get dq'd? Like, is that what happened
- 38:06here? And then they, they announced
- 38:08the winner is the genius and it's by count-out.
- 38:12I was like, what, what, how, how did this?
- 38:14Happen. I was like tempted to like hit
- 38:16the 10-second rewind button, just to see if it was actually
- 38:1810 seconds. But I didn't care that.
- 38:19I wonder where this ranks on those.
- 38:21Twenty second, twenty six losses for Hogan in terms of like
- 38:27chronological order because it's got to be one of the earliest
- 38:30losses in home chronological. Yeah, that's that's an
- 38:34interesting point. Probably has got to be very
- 38:36early like top five. Don't see me taking my notes.
- 38:40Yeah. So anyway cheat so Then fast
- 38:44forward. If you guys are ready and
- 38:46anything you want to touch on, we're going to fast forward all
- 38:48the way to the end of Saturday, night's main event, and the
- 38:52episode ends with mr. Perfect shattering, the winged
- 38:56eagle with a hammer as the genius print Paces.
- 39:02Sorry, I've been talking about dancing quite a bit.
- 39:04He Paces back and forth. And then genius, the genius is
- 39:08is giddy giddy over his victory and watching his Is mr.
- 39:14Perfect desecrates. Hulkamania, as he, he's
- 39:19demanding a title shot. As he destroys that that belt.
- 39:23It's gonna destroy every single belt that comes after two.
- 39:26If he doesn't get a shot, it's it's quite the moment.
- 39:31And one of us we were talking about it after we watched it and
- 39:35I sent you guys this information, like make sure you
- 39:38watch the end because the the hardcore Championship, the
- 39:43original one. Its Inception was originally
- 39:46rumored to have been a replica of the wing, the eagle.
- 39:50And it was this one that was smashed in several places and
- 39:53then reassembled with two pieces of duct tape, I don't think this
- 39:57was the actual one is my guess but it wouldn't shock me.
- 40:01If this was part of it, Mick Foley, then later on went on and
- 40:04said in an interview that he couldn't confirm that it acts as
- 40:08a but Mick. This is why I picked this
- 40:10episode 2 of this is shows how good of a teacher I am.
- 40:14Serving you guys up a little homework with a side of history
- 40:17there. Yeah, I like it, I like it.
- 40:19So, after perfect demands title shot, Hogan replies backstage as
- 40:24Mean, Gene is holding this shattered belt and hope doesn't
- 40:28draw out these yet but he doesn't care.
- 40:31So I have, I have to point out something from perf, the first,
- 40:35the perfect, and the genius promo mean, jeans says, I can
- 40:40be. I can't believe ladies and
- 40:42gentlemen. What?
- 40:43Am I witnessing in all my years of covering the World Wrestling
- 40:47Federation, then fast forward to the Hogan promo and Mean Gene is
- 40:51holding the title. And he goes I've never I
- 40:54witnessed something like this so I take, I can take my notes in
- 40:58Google Docs, right? So in the Google Doc, they give
- 41:02you like the little grammar underline and it highlighted,
- 41:05the never I witnessed it is like, gives you the suggestion
- 41:09of never witnessed like where did where did Mean Gene come up
- 41:12with this? Itness thing I don't understand
- 41:16where it's coming from and it's definitely not the correct
- 41:19usage. And I like the only thing that
- 41:20my brain goes to is that Vince was like, no pal.
- 41:24It's I've never I witnessed that.
- 41:27That's the only thing I can think of.
- 41:28And well, do you know I think I'm you know what it is.
- 41:31They're in the same region that we grew up in is, whatever the
- 41:34news was called Eyewitness News. I write, I bet you.
- 41:37It's like that's like bleeding into his brain there.
- 41:39I Channel 7, ABC Eyewitness News.
- 41:42Yeah, yeah, maybe No, but just like name, just like Vince named
- 41:46the contestant on The Dating Game or The Mating Game.
- 41:49What was that made in gaining a dating game?
- 41:51Yolanda course, where do you think he heard that?
- 41:53Yeah, he heard it for the lotto. Yolanda Vega.
- 41:55Yep, but going back to Hogan. The word I wrote down to
- 41:58describe him was somber. He just hangs out.
- 42:01He's talking in his normal, Hulk, Hogan, Terry Bollea voice,
- 42:04like there's no, there's no Hogan about it and then all of a
- 42:08sudden he fires up, you cut me to the Bone man.
- 42:12Burning my soul. So alive.
- 42:15I thought my impersonations were over.
- 42:16Hogan is another bad one that I do.
- 42:18I need to step my shit up. The three chameleons are still
- 42:21intact. Dude.
- 42:23It's treating it. Like you like your favorite NFL
- 42:26team. Just loss to the Colts and, you
- 42:28know, they gotta watch someone down.
- 42:29The drain, ha ha shots fired at Mike Vinny.
- 42:33So as his head as, I don't know if you guys continue to watch
- 42:38but the episode plays out and it's Ventura and Vince on the
- 42:42yeah, crowded. Screen.
- 42:44And I'm like ah yes now I remember that.
- 42:48This is like dubbed over like the match and with the
- 42:51commentary and I don't know to me.
- 42:53That's yeah it just it it's a little like sprinkled on thing
- 42:57that I find. Interesting.
- 42:59Do you like that? At some point in the episode?
- 43:02I'm just going to call one of the great Jesse isms, he calls.
- 43:04Vincent, this is you that IV, lead ivy league, birdwatcher a
- 43:11great line. He takes a couple of shots at
- 43:13Vince, being an Ivy League. I and yeah, I couldn't remember
- 43:17the first one that you're that. He thought he had their butt,
- 43:21man. Ivy league bird.
- 43:22Watcher is an interesting one. Yeah for sure.
- 43:26Alright, so as usual, we've got to give this cans in the cooler.
- 43:29So I think we should let the man who picked this match.
- 43:32Go first. Jim boy, I've watched this many
- 43:35times since I've picked it because I just like got obsessed
- 43:39with this Saturday night's Main Event because it is super
- 43:41interesting to me is Andre stuff.
- 43:43Turn it on. You look, I've got to watch this
- 43:46but removing all that in the match itself.
- 43:49It's an interesting match. I don't know if it's like a
- 43:52great match. It's it's certainly interesting.
- 43:54I'm going to give it a three point two five, that's why I
- 43:59never get. I never lead off.
- 44:01I I know you never do. That's why I put you on the
- 44:03spot. Yeah.
- 44:04Mike, what do you got? You know, I was definitely
- 44:10entertained. I will say it was a very
- 44:13entertaining. Ting match.
- 44:14I was lives laughed. I cried, I can't France.
- 44:19You France. Yeah, I forgot were all.
- 44:22I did all of the above. You blink a lot.
- 44:24I did math. Yeah, I believe this guy's got
- 44:27his he probably had his calculator out is TI-83 or two
- 44:32pounds of feet 9 inches. Yeah, so yeah I give it I was
- 44:38gonna give it a three and a half so just because you know it was
- 44:43worth watching and Watch it again.
- 44:45Yeah. Why that's why I would totally
- 44:47watch it again to. I think the three-and-a-half was
- 44:49where I was headed. I do such a bad job at never
- 44:53writing down what my grade would be.
- 44:54And then I have to, like, think back in the moment and be like,
- 44:57ah, shit, what am I gonna give this?
- 44:59But three and a half is where I'm headed and specifically
- 45:01because it was a Hogan match that didn't feel like a Hogan
- 45:05man. Yeah.
- 45:05It was, it was interesting and different it for the time.
- 45:09And especially for that Hogan, it felt like just foreign and
- 45:13Current and I enjoyed watching it and was genuinely entertained
- 45:17by the Prancing and the frolicking and the Hogan being
- 45:21so frustrated through it too. Was just like a whole different
- 45:25Hogan that I actually really enjoyed watching so three and a
- 45:28half. And yeah I could potentially go
- 45:31even higher but the the work rate and all of the other Gaga
- 45:34around it is 32 unique. It's super yes unique is the
- 45:38word. Yeah Wilson.
- 45:39You almost have to write your grade now.
- 45:41No II have to put down my cans cooler ahead of time because if
- 45:47I don't, then I think of us talking about it in the moment
- 45:50and it like freezes my writing automatically because I just I
- 45:54laugh at all the ridiculous shyness, but I give it three and
- 45:58a half also and, and, and honestly, I know I harp on this
- 46:04a lot, but I love when I can turn something on and watch
- 46:0715-20 minutes of it and just like it's a quick hitter and
- 46:11it's ridiculous if you want some laughs And you want to watch
- 46:14something that you probably have never seen.
- 46:17I recommend turning on peacock typing in Saturday, night's Main
- 46:20Event. Season 5, episode 7, 16-minute,
- 46:24Mark and you're good and you'll probably end up watching more
- 46:27and none of us mentally this. Yeah, exactly.
- 46:29That's the thing. That's what's great about.
- 46:30The senate mean offense, like, I love throwing those on.
- 46:33Yeah, but none of us mentioned also mr.
- 46:35Perfect, like it's really funny. So yes, him in there and you're
- 46:38kind of wonder where that could have gone if they didn't go
- 46:41Hogan Warrior, right? Because clearly there's ends up
- 46:43Up there and it just doesn't happen.
- 46:46Yeah. I I need to know.
- 46:47I need to know more about what happened and what went wrong
- 46:51with Hogan and perfect was a perfect size.
- 46:54Was it? I don't know because it gets to
- 46:55me freight. Train of warrior, coming here
- 46:58has to be, has to be, they had to like jump ship on perfect
- 47:01which is such a man named him and Warrior confrontation
- 47:04happened at that Rumble, right? Yes, it did just real quick,
- 47:08maybe something we cover in the future, you never know.
- 47:10There's a if you want to see Hogan and perfect.
- 47:13There's a Battle Royal from, I believe it's a Saturday night's
- 47:15main event or some other thing that's on peacock, East beyond
- 47:18the Network Battle Royal that ends up basically perfect in
- 47:22Hogan or in the final four and perfect ends up winning.
- 47:25And it's really interesting. It's kind of almost like a
- 47:28blow-off to this Feud and why a man perfect and battle Royals.
- 47:31That's like no - I'm saying, bro, this may be a top 10 match
- 47:35for my key work, right? Yeah.
- 47:36Throw throw draft in there and you're good to go.
- 47:39He covered it. They covered it in WF magazine
- 47:42back in the day that's how I RIT yeah anything.
- 47:46All right Matt you've got some extra credit to do so I'm going
- 47:50to hand it over next week. We've got my match which I'll
- 47:53mention at the end so take it over.
- 47:56Hop god let's do it. The extra cooler.
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- 49:01For some honorable mention the house of black defended under
- 49:06open house, rules for the very first time and my goodness.
- 49:09I loved this match. Not only did I love the match
- 49:13but I Loved the stipulations. I loved how the whole the whole
- 49:19Arena went dark. And essentially there was just
- 49:22the spotlight on the ring, even the ringside area was blacked
- 49:26out. They had the stipulations wears
- 49:29a 20 count, no disqualification which includes no rope breaks
- 49:33and then they had a dealer's choice.
- 49:35They faced off against the best friends, so it was a silly
- 49:37witches or banned from ringside as their their own stipulation
- 49:41that they brought to the table but I Hope and pray that each
- 49:45and every week, the house of black has a defense under house,
- 49:49open house rules. I loved it.
- 49:51I thought it was unique and different and Kudos kudos to the
- 49:55house of black and Malachi black.
- 49:56I am all here for this one. Let's stick in a ew.
- 50:01We're probably going to do a lot of that today.
- 50:03Story number three, is Tiny, Tony comes out and announces an
- 50:06announcement for this week, which is now, or for next week,
- 50:10which is now this week say that again.
- 50:14Tony comes out and announces an announcement for this week and
- 50:20this is why people can't stand. So, not you man, you know, well,
- 50:25me too apparently, but this sounds like it's going to be the
- 50:29announce the final announcement of collision, which is the
- 50:32highly rumored Saturday show. There's also rumors of a
- 50:36full-out, new TV deal which includes Discovery Warner
- 50:42Brothers. And a Dreaming platform, which
- 50:46would be what is going to be called Max.
- 50:49So, essentially HBO Max would be carrying all aw content,
- 50:54including streaming rights for pay-per-views.
- 50:57So that would be amazing if that's actually what comes to
- 51:00fruition here. Even though Tony Kahn.
- 51:03And you know, we're going to go talk the the Discord for a
- 51:06second, adhemar know. This Andrew is his actual name.
- 51:10That's that's the that's the joke here.
- 51:13Every week where we mentioned Adam.
- 51:16And then we all laugh at one another, it's his name is Andrew
- 51:18and he gets heated about it. So Edith, but he also does have
- 51:21a pair of. Marty jannetty has drawers and
- 51:24his collection, that is very true, very true, but he kind of
- 51:28took us to task and me in particular, as I missed the boat
- 51:32on his question after I responded like six days later,
- 51:35so I apologize. It's but um, you know, he's
- 51:38saying that we lace into tiny Tony all the time and we let
- 51:41things slide like we did with trip.
- 51:43Each announcing the new heavyweight title and we didn't
- 51:46really Cowboy him. Like we typically do Tony.
- 51:49But my defense here is like this, dude.
- 51:52And I know everybody calls him, cringe and cringe isn't the
- 51:55exact word. He's just uncomfortable on our
- 51:58screen. And, you know, Triple H is of
- 52:00course, it's an unfair assessment to compare the two
- 52:04because there's so much Equity built up in Triple H.
- 52:06There's so much familiar ality with this dude, being on our
- 52:11screen and so many different capacities for so long.
- 52:13Long. But if it was a
- 52:15well-put-together promote promo and this was a pre-tape which
- 52:20gives you the opportunity to make it even better, but for him
- 52:23to come out and awkwardly announced, an announcement is
- 52:26immediately setting me off to be like this is a joke like it is
- 52:30good. A job.
- 52:31Could just flash something on the screen and said, like next
- 52:34week, maybe it is though. It's like this for my haters on
- 52:36the extra cooler. Yeah, I think that's part of the
- 52:39stick. Now we're having thing.
- 52:41The hugging thing was the same thing, man.
- 52:44Him coming out and continuing to hug guys.
- 52:46Like I think it's in that subsided still but like, there's
- 52:50just this tone set with Tony coming out and like what he's
- 52:55doing is tremendous. And if the rumors are true, this
- 52:58TV deal is upwards of 1 billion. What with Abby 1 billion
- 53:03dollars, which is a five-year deal.
- 53:05So it makes sense when you break it all down, but seeing the be
- 53:09on the billion is a huge coup. A huge get for This
- 53:14three-year-old four year old company so I'm thinkable less
- 53:17than, you know, you know a hand of years, you know, I mean
- 53:22easily. Yeah.
- 53:23And so for me to speak to Andrew directly, I am impressed with
- 53:29what he is doing and what he has been able to grow this small
- 53:33brand into this true second, second option, for wrestling
- 53:40fans and it's made everything and anything in the world.
- 53:43Old of wrestling better and it's push WWE and even though we dig
- 53:48at him and we lace into him because of just how awkward it
- 53:52is on our screens and I'm interested to see how he
- 53:54actually comes out and delivers. This huge potentially
- 53:59earth-shattering announcement this upcoming week including
- 54:03being at the upfronts and there's rumors of CM Punk's
- 54:06return and all of these things. So like what he's doing is
- 54:10awesome and it's awesome for the business and it's awesome for
- 54:12WWE. Fans.
- 54:13It's awesome for a UW fans and it's awesome for Indie fans.
- 54:16We talked about Matt Cardona last week and if you're not up
- 54:19on Cardona it should have. He should have also been an
- 54:22honorable mention for him attacking Craig Carton which I
- 54:25am fully fully backing. That let's move to Story.
- 54:29Number two, will go to WWE the Night of Champions.
- 54:33In Saudi Arabia, is quickly taking shape.
- 54:36We now have four full matches, there was a Battle Royal this
- 54:39past week, which now puts Mustafa Ali as Gunther's.
- 54:44Opponent, Mike, did you enjoy your battle?
- 54:46Royal I can't get enough. That's not the real story.
- 54:52Of course, we've talked, we've talked to Cody and Brock which
- 54:56I'm sure we'll get some stipulations, but we have
- 54:58finally Set the World Heavyweight Championship.
- 55:01Seth Rollins will go up against AJ Styles.
- 55:05Is there a chance that this actually gets put on AJ?
- 55:09There is a chance. Definitely, a chance.
- 55:12Yes, yes, I do. Oh, man.
- 55:14I'm going to wait till next week.
- 55:15Like what's the bet what's 3 times?
- 55:17A place to put a number on it. Put a number on.
- 55:19It % JJ. Yeah sixth of right now 6040.
- 55:2260/40 AJ? Yes, because they want you to
- 55:25think, like Seth just seems like the obvious pick, man, but it's
- 55:30less. It is on Smackdown.
- 55:31Like, how could you have two titles there?
- 55:33Yeah. Well, Here's how we could do it
- 55:35pal. You've write our own shit.
- 55:41I do have to admit, though, throughout all of this Edge and
- 55:45his Instagram promo dating. Oh man, it got me so good.
- 55:49I was bought in. I think I told you to me, he
- 55:52sent it to me, like, it was like a carrot at the end of us of a
- 55:55stick, you know. Like they like dangle it in
- 55:57front of the cartoons and I'm the one with racing to go get
- 56:00this carrot. At the end of the stick, Mick
- 56:02played me perfectly and I completely W into edges going to
- 56:06win, man. Edges, get a win and he's going
- 56:08to go down this path of like I've now have gotten the title
- 56:10back that I never lost and, you know, I'm going to retire once I
- 56:14lose it and it's the end and I was like, oh shit, this is
- 56:16amazing. This is gonna happen and then
- 56:18nope, no way man. Edges too much of a Storyteller
- 56:22to let that happen. That means, thank you guys for
- 56:24being nice and not totally shitting on my prediction of Rey
- 56:27Mysterio's. I'm Booyaka.
- 56:32So let's, let's go to the real news of this.
- 56:34Week on Smackdown, Roman Reigns and solo sekolah will face Sami
- 56:40Zayn and Kevin Owens for the Undisputed Tag Team
- 56:43Championships. All right, let's let's get
- 56:46another percentage here. Nick on Steve ourselves enough
- 56:49is ringing a percentage breakdown Will they put the
- 56:54titles the tag titles on Roman and solo.
- 56:56I'm on 50/50 right now. I know that's like a cop-out.
- 57:00I sound like a weatherman these days.
- 57:01Sorry. No but that's that's giving
- 57:03seriously credit but because like I think I think KO and
- 57:07Sammy have kind of fell flat. Like this is what always
- 57:09happens. Like the chase is the best part
- 57:12and it's it is what it is man. It's kind of boring right now if
- 57:16she would tag team belts. Yes.
- 57:19Like they need to move them read to move away from this bloodline
- 57:22stuff for To be successful as a tag team either but that doesn't
- 57:26scan on its alone. Yeah, there's gonna be
- 57:28miscommunication with the Usos leading.
- 57:31Yes to Kevin and Sammy winning solo taking the pin.
- 57:35There's no way Roman eats it. Oh no, no chance there is
- 57:38absolutely. I feel I can still.
- 57:40It can end in Schmid's though. It came up was 100%.
- 57:43All right, 100. Yeah, I'm leaning.
- 57:47I think Sammy nko, still walk out Champions 65/35.
- 57:52That's a me and kail walk out as Champions.
- 57:54But like could you imagine if they actually did it, if they
- 57:57actually pulled the trigger and now Romans walk around with four
- 58:00titles and so, and like, that disrespect, like the obviously
- 58:04Roman really dug into and I didn't go into the details of
- 58:06the promo and I'll save us from doing that.
- 58:09But like, could you imagine that this respect of, like Here solo
- 58:13are here. Jimmy and Jey hold onto my tag
- 58:15team titles for Uh, yeah, like it was like really the only
- 58:20story and reason why they do that, it'd be out of this world,
- 58:23but let's move to back to W. Excuse me, back to aew for
- 58:28Story. Number one, and let's talk about
- 58:30a story. I did not see coming, Don
- 58:33callous turns on, Kenny Omega after an incredible, incredible
- 58:39steel cage match between Kenny Omega and Jon.
- 58:43Moxley man, this had I In the last few months, I've really
- 58:49been able to hone in on the fact that I love chaos in my matches.
- 58:53I love just absolute chaos, and something that makes you stare
- 58:57at the screen and be captured and captivated by it.
- 59:00And this match had exactly that there was the hot start outside.
- 59:04The ring had the Bucks involvement the black wool
- 59:06combat Club, involvement barbed wire chairs, mocks takes off the
- 59:10top turnbuckle. Did you guys see him fishhook
- 59:12Kenny omegas mouth with the turnbuckle like insane to see
- 59:17This shards of glass finally, Kenny hits mocks with a
- 59:21v-trigger which breaks the cage, Kenny's leg gets trapped in
- 59:25between the ring and the cage like I legitimately bought this
- 59:28as a legit injury. I was like that, that should not
- 59:31have happened, which is probably true.
- 59:33The docks coming over and checking on them.
- 59:35I'm Liz like fully bought in at this point.
- 59:38Marking out for this entire match.
- 59:40Box comes in with the trusty old screwdriver and Don.
- 59:43Carlos pulls it out of his hand. At this point, I don't think
- 59:46anybody Meet fan at. This point, was expecting to see
- 59:49what they saw where Don Carlos Nails.
- 59:52Kenny Omega with the screwdriver, bust him open box
- 59:55gets the one, two, three. And then man, I mean Mel Coleman
- 1:00:00art, I think captured it perfectly on Instagram if you
- 1:00:03haven't seen it. Is that is that an oil painting?
- 1:00:05Nick. No.
- 1:00:07Digitally may be digitally it everything.
- 1:00:10Most of the stuff that I've seen that she does is All Digital.
- 1:00:13So Mel Komen art at Malcolm and art on Yes, sir.
- 1:00:17Graham followed out, this tremendous piece of artwork.
- 1:00:21It looks like an oil on canvas, and that's it is awesome.
- 1:00:26Don Calais holding, Kenny Omega in his arms and kissing his
- 1:00:30forehead, which is, which is what he did, and it's
- 1:00:35tremendous. So definitely go and check it
- 1:00:37out. Seek that image out.
- 1:00:39It's amazing. Don Carlos is actually using it
- 1:00:41for his Twitter profile picture. Now it's that good.
- 1:00:45So definitely go check it out. It's It's called Don the
- 1:00:48terrible, but Don Carlos gets up and he's yelling at the crowd
- 1:00:52and pointing out the scar on his forehead.
- 1:00:54And I'm assuming that's the reason for Kenya for him.
- 1:00:57Turning on Kenny. But it was so well done.
- 1:01:01It was so tremendous the match the like, I couldn't see it
- 1:01:05happening. I just couldn't see it
- 1:01:06happening. And now I still don't see him
- 1:01:08joining the book, the Black Bull combat Club.
- 1:01:10So I don't know where it's going.
- 1:01:12And all of this is tremendous, all of this is amazing.
- 1:01:15And a He was firing on all cylinders man.
- 1:01:18They captured honorable mention number three and number one of
- 1:01:22this week in a week, that WWE had a lot of shit going on to.
- 1:01:26So kudos to Tony. That's not just because Andrew
- 1:01:30called me out, but I trust trying to sell it went bleep.
- 1:01:35We gotta sell that out. Yeah, exactly man.
- 1:01:36And it's and it's level up its gonna huddle royal battle royal
- 1:01:41approval, over the top Nick, take us home, brother.
- 1:01:44Oh man, if as Matt said, Said, if you're not already following
- 1:01:49Mel Coleman art, she's on Instagram and Twitter under the
- 1:01:53same name I believe. Definitely, I'll post that in
- 1:01:56the Discord and I've been posting her work to my story,
- 1:02:01but that being said next week is my match and I'm bringing are
- 1:02:06the oldest match out of the four of us to the group.
- 1:02:09It's a Terry Funk I Quit match versus Ric Flair.
- 1:02:14It's a lot of fun. I hope you guys Dive into that
- 1:02:18as much as I did. But as usual you can find us on
- 1:02:21Instagram at extra cooler and you can hop in our Discord
- 1:02:25Channel you know, where to find the link by.
- 1:02:27Now I hope please speak. Speaking of Discord, I just want
- 1:02:32to thank Noah who has joined us recently.
- 1:02:34Yes, and this dude is going back all the way to the beginning and
- 1:02:38he has caught up to our review of WrestleMania 38.
- 1:02:41So he still has a whole nother year to go, but this dude has
- 1:02:44been an awesome addition to Our disk or Channel.
- 1:02:47I appreciate you brother for what you're doing and going back
- 1:02:50and listening to beginning. He pointed out about how poorly
- 1:02:53some of our like takes on current product go.
- 1:02:57So I'm fully expecting that. A lot of my takes from this
- 1:03:00week, will do the exact same and by listening to this dynamites
- 1:03:05already happened and I'm sure that anything I've said about aw
- 1:03:09is not come true and I look like a fool again.
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- 1:03:26What if the Geniuses athletic achievements are as good as his
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- 1:03:37The holsters are wrestler genius.
- 1:03:40What are you? Nobody eats Beefaroni on a boat
- 1:03:45man. That's a problem.
- 1:03:47Right, so I wasn't cooler. Great.