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Full Show Podcast: 19 May 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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Speaker 1: early edition with Spark for business technology that keeps business moving,
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Speaker 1: news talks.
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Speaker 2: They'd be good morning.
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Speaker 3: It is Tuesday six out for five. Great to have
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Speaker 3: your company, the back to basics, money and the budget.
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Speaker 3: We'll look at that before six. Leslie is an Australia
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Speaker 3: for us. If you're a South and farmer, you don't
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Speaker 3: have to worry about your water plans for a while yet.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Hogart is live for us.
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Speaker 3: If you've been trying to see a specialist but you
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Speaker 3: keep getting the decline, we have.
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Speaker 2: New numbers for you this morning.
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Speaker 3: The agenda Tuesday ninethe the may starting in the UK.
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Speaker 3: Star is still fighting on.
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Speaker 4: I do want to fight the next election obviously, I
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Speaker 4: recognize that after the local election results elections in Wales
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Speaker 4: and Scotland as well. The first task is obviously turning
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Speaker 4: things around. I've said I don't know how many times
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Speaker 4: that I'm not going to walk away. I feel very
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Speaker 4: strongly that I must serve for people who got to
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Speaker 4: be into office.
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Speaker 3: Now your two main contenders with streaming health Sicretary he
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Speaker 3: has put Brickst.
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Speaker 2: On the agenda. Burnham he's taking it.
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Speaker 5: On I am not proposing that the UK considers rejoining
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Speaker 5: the EU. I respect the decision that was made at
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Speaker 5: the referendum, and it's going to undermine everything said I've
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Speaker 5: said about strengthening democracy if we don't respect that vote.
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Speaker 5: My view is that Brexit has been damaging. But I
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Speaker 5: also believe the last thing we should do right now
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Speaker 5: is rerun those arguments. Britain will be stuck in a
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Speaker 5: permanent rut if we're just constantly arguing.
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Speaker 3: Now, I'll tell you why he's saying this, And just
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Speaker 3: a second, let's go to the Middle East first. Trump's
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Speaker 3: turning out the heat again on Iron, saying time is ticking.
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Speaker 3: Reports he's been on the blower to nit Yahoo preparing
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Speaker 3: to renew a tack.
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Speaker 6: I think we had a wall on deal making. I
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Speaker 6: would encourage the president look at reducing RAN's military capability
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Speaker 6: even further. They've been dramatically weakened, but they're still targets
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Speaker 6: that could weaken them more militarily.
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Speaker 2: Iran saying that the Americans are all very confused.
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Speaker 3: Does contradictory statements truly indicate the depth of America's confusion
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Speaker 3: regarding their objectives in this war? President of Taiwan says
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Speaker 3: they will defend sovereignty but not provoke a war with China.
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Speaker 3: How you can do those to think two things simultaneously,
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Speaker 3: I don't know. But Trump has left his mark after
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Speaker 3: his summit was huging pain.
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Speaker 7: They have somebody there now that wants to go independent. Well,
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Speaker 7: it's a risky thing when you go independent. You know,
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Speaker 7: they're going independent because they want to get into a
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Speaker 7: war and they want to They figure they have United
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Speaker 7: States behind him. I'd like to see it stay the
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Speaker 7: way it is. And I'm not looking to have somebody
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Speaker 7: go independent. And you know, we're supposed to travel nine thousand,
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Speaker 7: five hundred miles to fight a war.
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Speaker 2: I'm not looking for that. Sounds like you're on your own.
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Speaker 3: Finally this morning, yeahs don't line, and apparently neither does Shakira.
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Speaker 3: A Spanish court has ordered tax authorities to pay this
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Speaker 3: singer back more than one hundred million New Zealand dollars
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Speaker 3: after ruling the money was wrongfully collected in a tax broadcase.
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Speaker 3: Court found officials couldn't prove she spent enough time in
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Speaker 3: Spain in twenty eleven to qualify as a tax resident.
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Speaker 1: Here at the first Ryan Bridge on early edition with
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Speaker 1: Spark for Business Technology that keeps business moving.
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Speaker 3: News Talk said, be because how much must Shakira be
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Speaker 3: earning to have a tax refund of fifty fifty five.
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Speaker 2: Million euros one hundred million New Zealand dollars? My word?
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Speaker 3: I mean she's great, don't get me wrong. Colombian singer.
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Speaker 3: If you don't know her song, then you should. Now
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you why Andy Burnham is talking about, well
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Speaker 3: not talking about Brexit because we're streating. Has kind of
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Speaker 3: put it on the table and said, oh, you know,
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Speaker 3: Brexit was a bad idea and let's revisit this whole thing.
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Speaker 3: Burnham has come out and said no, let's not revisit Brexit.
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Speaker 3: And the reason for that is quite simple. Make a
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Speaker 3: Field is the seat that he needs to win in
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Speaker 3: order to get into Parliament in order to go and
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Speaker 3: take Starmer's job, and sixty five percent of voters in
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Speaker 3: that seat backed Brexit. They did not want to be
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Speaker 3: part of the EU. So Burnham cannot turn around and
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Speaker 3: say let's rejoin and expect to be voted back. And
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Speaker 3: plus let's not forget that the majority of seats on
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Speaker 3: the local borough council in that area were taken out
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Speaker 3: by reform. So reform is not exactly pro EU either,
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Speaker 3: are they. So that's why that is happening this morning. Now,
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Speaker 3: I wanted to play this audio for you because it's
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Speaker 3: quite good. This is the former Google CEO Eric Schmidt.
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Speaker 3: Now he's been bowed, did a speech to some students
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Speaker 3: at the University of Arizona. You know, the capping ceremony.
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Speaker 3: Everybody's graduating. Everybody's supposed to be happy because they'll go
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Speaker 3: and flood into jobs and too entry level jobs across America.
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Speaker 2: Except that ain't going to happen. Why AI? This was
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Speaker 2: the reaction.
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Speaker 8: There is a fear in your generation yet that the
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Speaker 8: future has already been written, that the machines are coming,
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Speaker 8: that the jobs are evaporating. The question is not whether
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Speaker 8: AI will shape the world will The question is whether
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Speaker 8: you will help cheap artificial intelligence.
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Speaker 9: We do not know, We.
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Speaker 8: Do not know the precise contours of what this transformation.
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Speaker 2: Will look like. You can't blame them for being you
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Speaker 2: can't blame them for being a.
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Speaker 3: Bit upset with AI. Like you just get to finally
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Speaker 3: get to the end of your studies. You've cawed your
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Speaker 3: way to the finish line. Set all your exams, past
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Speaker 3: all your exams, and along comes some robot to take
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Speaker 3: the job in the entry level job you were about
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Speaker 3: to go into. So apparently students, if you haven't started
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Speaker 3: using students are starting to think about, well, what do
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Speaker 3: I actually need to study in order to get a job,
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Speaker 3: not just go to UNI, but get a job at
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Speaker 3: the end of it.
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Speaker 2: So moving away from.
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Speaker 3: Entry level tech statistical analysis, focusing more apparently on critical thinking,
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Speaker 3: on communication, and on human centric fields.
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Speaker 2: The other thing you can do is something with your hands.
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Speaker 3: I mean, even as I say that, like a surgeon
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of robotic assisted surgery at.
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Speaker 2: The moment, I mean, what what jobs left?
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Speaker 3: What's left that AI will not do or robots will
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Speaker 3: not do? One day, nine two nine two it is
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Speaker 3: twelve after five year old. News talk said, be next,
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Speaker 3: we'll look at the GP referrals.
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Speaker 2: Before the news breaks.
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Speaker 1: Here at first Ryan Bridge on early edition with sparks
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Speaker 1: for business technology the keeps business moving news Talk said.
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Speaker 3: Be forty minutes after five services sector, this is three
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Speaker 3: quarters of our economy is still going backwards. Anything a
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Speaker 3: number under fifty goes backwards. So the number for April
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Speaker 3: was actually up two point seven points to forty eight
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Speaker 3: point nine. In March it was forty six point two,
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Speaker 3: so the services sector actually improved in April. That is
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Speaker 3: a good news story. The bad news is that it's
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Speaker 3: below fifty therefore still in contraction.
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Speaker 2: Time is caught a past righton bridge Bread.
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Speaker 3: One in five GP referrals being turned down at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Figures come from the Association of Salaried Medical Specialists. They
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Speaker 3: look at seven health districts around the country. Health New
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Speaker 3: Zealand doesn't keep any centralized data on this, despite the
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Speaker 3: fact Health New Zealand was meant to be the centralized
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Speaker 3: system that would solve all these problems.
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Speaker 2: Dr Luke Bradford, Royal New.
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Speaker 3: Zealand College of GP's medical director with me this morning, look.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning Ryan.
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Speaker 10: How are you doing.
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Speaker 2: I'm very well and I'm told it your birthday, Happy birthday.
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Speaker 9: Thanks me.
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Speaker 2: Why people being declined for specialist appointments?
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Speaker 10: Let people get graded when they get referred from sort
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Speaker 10: of priority one, which is immediate threat to life through
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Speaker 10: to not particularly severe down out four and then what
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Speaker 10: happens is Health New Zealand sets thresholds for which one
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Speaker 10: of those numbers will be seen. So the idea is
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Speaker 10: that ones will always be seen, twos will usually be seen.
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Speaker 10: Three is you'd hope would be seen, but it gets
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Speaker 10: shifted according to availability and resource.
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Speaker 3: So it's not just a purely medical determination here. It's
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Speaker 3: not saying you need to see one, therefore you will
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Speaker 3: see one's if there's none enough people, you'll be booted
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Speaker 3: off the list.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, so everyone gets graded clinically first, so
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Speaker 10: the doctor will grade them and give them a number,
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Speaker 10: and that the thresholds are set either locally or nationally
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Speaker 10: according to resource. I mean, ones do always get seen, right,
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Speaker 10: But would.
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Speaker 2: What would a three be?
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Speaker 10: Then?
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Speaker 2: If I was on a three, what would my ailment be?
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Speaker 10: Say you had a nasty shoulder arthritis, so it was
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Speaker 10: causing you a lot of discomfort, You weren't able to
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Speaker 10: use your arm properly as well as you'd like, kept
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Speaker 10: you awake at nights, so that would be decided to
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Speaker 10: find as not limb threatening, not life threatening, but having
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Speaker 10: impact on life. And so they sort of sit in
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Speaker 10: the gray zone as to whether or not you get seen.
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Speaker 3: Do we know how many are in the gray zone
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Speaker 3: and how many of those in the gray zone get rejected?
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Speaker 10: No, I've got no idea. There's two reasons for that. Firstly, there's,
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Speaker 10: like you said, Hew, New Zealand don't record rejection data.
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Speaker 10: They don't particularly easily make it clear what level each
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Speaker 10: service's threshold is at at any given time or when
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Speaker 10: that changes. And finally, we know that because that there
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Speaker 10: is and because gps get used to the sort of
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Speaker 10: some of the twos, threes and most of the fours
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Speaker 10: never getting seen. A lot of stuff doesn't get referred
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Speaker 10: into the public system, even if the patient may actually
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Speaker 10: need some help.
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Speaker 3: Goodness me, look, appreciate your time this morning, doctor Luke Bradford,
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Speaker 3: who is Royal New Zealand College of GP's medical director.
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Speaker 3: At time is seventeen minutes.
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Speaker 2: After five, Ryan Bridge, Right, lots of.
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Speaker 3: Texts coming in on AI Ryan. Over the last forty
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Speaker 3: years or so, hundreds of thousands of people and the
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Speaker 3: workforce have been replaced by others. Ryan, Ao won't help
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Speaker 3: me with the horse work that I do. I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 3: there's areas where even mechanics, you know, but then I
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Speaker 3: can imagine a lot of robots doing work that mechanics do.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I probably never fully replace you, but what
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Speaker 3: are some jobs like shore fire jobs that you can do,
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Speaker 3: police officers, you know, nurses, although then robots can probably
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Speaker 3: get involved there. Nineteen nine two is the number to text.
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Speaker 3: By the way, Cuba. Everyone's going to be talking about
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Speaker 3: Cuba in the next couple of weeks. Axios in the
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Speaker 3: US is reporting that they have, citing some classified intelligence data,
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Speaker 3: that Cuba has just gone out and bought three hundred
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Speaker 3: military drones and there was talk that they were going
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Speaker 3: to use them to attack Guntanamo Bay, the US naval base,
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Speaker 3: which would obviously kick things off, wouldn't it something to watch?
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Speaker 2: Eighteen after five.
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Speaker 1: News and Views you trust to start your day. It's
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Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Sparks for Business Technology
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Speaker 1: that keeps business moving, News talks'b it is.
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Speaker 3: Five twenty chiropractor, Ryan, My job is a chiropractor and
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Speaker 3: it won't be replaced by AI anytime soon. Yeah, that's
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Speaker 3: a good one. Actually, I wondered about farming. Maybe we
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Speaker 3: can ask our next guest, Ryan Bridge, And that is
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Speaker 3: good news for South and farmers. This morning, they've gotten
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Speaker 3: an extension to submit their fresh water plans. Governments given
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Speaker 3: them until the end of November instead of the previous deadline.
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Speaker 2: Which was May twenty seven.
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Speaker 3: Andrew Hogart, Associate Minister for the Environment, with us this morning, minister,
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Speaker 3: good morning, good morning.
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Speaker 9: And now you won't replace stereo farmers with a anytime soon.
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Speaker 2: Even though holters trying their best, doing their best.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, still got to swing the cups.
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Speaker 2: Yea.
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Speaker 3: Hey why the extension? Well, why is this issue not
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Speaker 3: chorted because you paused it last year? What's going on?
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Speaker 9: Well, actually, in pausing it, it meant that there was
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Speaker 9: already a role in the Southland Regional Plan that they
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Speaker 9: all had to have farm plans and so it had
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Speaker 9: to be a regional plan or a national plan. So
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Speaker 9: if we paused the national plan for them, it meant
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Speaker 9: their regional plan would apply, which were even more draconian.
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Speaker 9: So we kind of had to turn it back on
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Speaker 9: for them to a degree. And that extension ran out
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Speaker 9: and we're not going to have the national system ready
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Speaker 9: until the National Environment Bill was passed this year, and
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Speaker 9: so we just need to extend it so that are
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Speaker 9: they not forced to do these more sort of draconian
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Speaker 9: regional farm plans.
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Speaker 3: What will the price difference be getting a planned out
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Speaker 3: under the old system. This is a plan under the
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Speaker 3: new system that you're expecting to have in place in November.
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Speaker 9: Well, look for dairy farmers in particular, and other farmers
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Speaker 9: already have a plan through their processes. The price difference
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Speaker 9: is huge. You know, an old certified farm plan was
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Speaker 9: looking at about being upwards about five grand, whereas I've already
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Speaker 9: got a plan through Fonterra. And so what we've done
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Speaker 9: is made sure that the new system will be able
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Speaker 9: to recognize existing plans through your processes that are already
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Speaker 9: covering this and other stuff, so we don't have duplication.
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Speaker 3: Is there a need for a plan at all? Could
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Speaker 3: you not just test the water around or test the
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Speaker 3: waterways or something and then say well you're doing well
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Speaker 3: or you're not doing well, and farmers will be judged
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Speaker 3: on the comes rather than how many bits of paper
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Speaker 3: you've got going in.
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Speaker 9: Well, so that one of the pieces of science has
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Speaker 9: been done is it shows that where you've got farm
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Speaker 9: plans across attachment and everyone's in that catchment's identified what
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Speaker 9: their critical source areas are and decided on a list
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Speaker 9: of mitigations to take, you actually see a step change
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Speaker 9: reduction and contaminants in that waterway and it holds. So
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Speaker 9: there is a value to them. There's what's a value
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Speaker 9: in knowing what your critical source areas are and what
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Speaker 9: are the mitigations you should be taking. And and it's
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Speaker 9: important that we get everyone, you know, all farmers doing
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Speaker 9: that and because otherwise I think it's just a few
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Speaker 9: that are doing the hard work. So I do think
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Speaker 9: there is value in them, but not but so long
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Speaker 9: as it's targeted and it's just focused on what is
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Speaker 9: their critical source area, what's the mitigation, no other crap.
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Speaker 3: But when we get that, when we get the detail
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Speaker 3: of the national plan before and yeah.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it'll be when so the final
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Speaker 9: details will be reported back to the House with the
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Speaker 9: second reading of the National Environment Bill.
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Speaker 3: Appreciate your time this morning, Andrew Hoggart, who is the
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Speaker 3: Associate Minister for the Environment. It is twenty four minutes
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Speaker 3: after five.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: Trump is going to speak to his security advisors today
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Speaker 3: and he's going to talk about military options for Iran.
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Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to start the war again,
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Speaker 3: but that is the way the media is kind of
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Speaker 3: framing this. We had the drone attack on the UAE,
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Speaker 3: we had the fire at the nuclear power plant there
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Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia apparently intercepted three drones in the last twenty
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Speaker 3: four hours. Net and Yahoo's chomping at the bit by
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Speaker 3: the locks to get back in there in Lebanon.
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Speaker 2: They in fact, they haven't really stopped.
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Speaker 3: There were airstrikes in Lebanon Sunday, so everyone's sort of
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Speaker 3: on ten to hooks again over I ran twenty five
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Speaker 3: after five.
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Speaker 3: In February last year, I wrote a piece for The
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Speaker 3: Herald about government departments and ministerial overload. It was partly
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Speaker 3: informed by observation, partly by a New Zealand initiative paper
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Speaker 3: on the subject. Luxeon's government has eighty one portfolios. Eighty one.
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Speaker 3: That is a massive number, more than most similar sized countries,
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Speaker 3: far more than most larger countries have Ireland, Norway, Singapore, Finland.
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Speaker 3: Countries we like to compare ourselves to all have fewer
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Speaker 3: than twenty. Fewer than twenty. We have eighty one. The UK, Canada,
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Speaker 3: US career massive countries, they have fewer than thirty. We
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Speaker 3: have eighty one. Australia's population is five times larger than ours,
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Speaker 3: but even they have almost half the number of portfolios.
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Speaker 3: Why well, MMP, they've shot up under MMP. Winston Peter's
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Speaker 3: got the reincarnated rail portfolio as a stop. Remember Michael
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Speaker 3: Woods got Auckland because labor was doing badly there pr
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Speaker 3: Comms James Megha got the South Island to balance out
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Speaker 3: the Auckland Comm's job. We'd Judith Collins got space. I mean,
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Speaker 3: how many do you need? This has all got a
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Speaker 3: bit out of hand, And I argued then as I argued,
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Speaker 3: now there are too many reporting lines and departments designed
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Speaker 3: to report into them. We have a plethora of related
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Speaker 3: portfolios to get chopped up and spread out for no
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Speaker 3: good reason. Think universities, vocational education and education three different portfolios.
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Speaker 3: Why we have three portfolios for young people, children, child poverty,
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Speaker 3: reduction and youth.
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Speaker 2: How are we going there?
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Speaker 3: Imagine if we had fifteen ministers with fifteen portfolios. If
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Speaker 3: you're healthier health, if your transport, your transport, and yes
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Speaker 3: that would include infrastructure. Nikola Willis last week on My
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Speaker 3: Herald show hinted that change is coming. She says, wait
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Speaker 3: till you see the budget. I think you'll like what's
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Speaker 3: in there. Well, we're waiting and surely a cleanup not
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Speaker 3: just of the public service but of the cabinet reporting
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Speaker 3: lines more generally is long overdue. On news talks, you'd
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Speaker 3: be as I said yesterday, the Benz thing is a
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Speaker 3: non starter. I had David Seymour on my show yesterday.
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Speaker 2: He said no.
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Speaker 3: We had the Prime Minister on with Mike Hoskin yesterday.
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Speaker 3: He literally laughed in the face of the idea. And
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Speaker 3: the Heralds come up with some numbers. They reckon. Twenty
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Speaker 3: four billion dollars is what you is what the begin
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Speaker 3: Z would be worth.
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Speaker 2: So where are we.
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Speaker 3: Going to get that money? Nowhere cheap, that's the answer. Therefore,
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Speaker 3: she's a no go. She's a non starter, a headline grabber.
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Speaker 3: As one pundit put it quite accurately, You're on news
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Speaker 3: talks there b We're live to Leslie and Australia.
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Speaker 1: Next Ryan Bridge on early edition with sparks for business
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Speaker 1: technology that keeps business moving.
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Speaker 2: News talks be.
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Speaker 3: Pretty far away from Sexter on news talks, it'd be
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Speaker 3: great to if you company this morning coming up the one
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Speaker 3: hundred million dollars on back to Basics.
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Speaker 2: We'll look at that shortly. Leslie's in Australia for us
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Speaker 2: as well.
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Speaker 3: Two numbers very quickly to get in front of you
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Speaker 3: before we get to our reporters. One is nine point
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Speaker 3: nine three percent. That is before tax. The average annual
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Speaker 3: return on the New Zealand Superfund over the last twenty
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Speaker 3: years almost ten percent, and that is number one in
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Speaker 3: the world in terms of sovereign wealth funds over the
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Speaker 3: last twenty years, New Zealand is number one. The average,
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Speaker 3: by the way, for everyone else six point two percent.
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Speaker 3: The other number I wanted to get in front of
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Speaker 3: you this morning is three percent. That is the percentage
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Speaker 3: according to the economists the percentage of Russia's male population
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Speaker 3: fighting age population that have been killed or wounded in
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Speaker 3: the war with Ukraine. Three percent. Isn't that incredible? And
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Speaker 3: by the way, they are losing ground the Russians. And
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Speaker 3: look no further than the drones heading Moscow right now,
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Speaker 3: Brian Bridge, Calum and needing for us this morning, Callum,
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Speaker 3: good morning morning, right gee, this is getting really messy
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Speaker 3: at Dunedin City Council.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, the drama continues over our rogue councilor bennettic 'song.
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Speaker 11: Look the latest here our mayor is calling on on
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Speaker 11: to consider resigning if he doesn't improve his behavior at
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Speaker 11: the City Council Here yesterday suspended On from all committees
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Speaker 11: for the next nine months after accepting the findings of
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Speaker 11: an independent Code of Conduct investigation. That investigation found he
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Speaker 11: breached the Council's code by disclosing commercially sensitive information about
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Speaker 11: a possible hotel development next to Forsyth Bar Stadium. Here
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Speaker 11: Mia Barker says On can still attend and participate in
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Speaker 11: full council meetings, but she's urging him to reflect on
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Speaker 11: his conduct and honor the oath he swore. Olm's told
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Speaker 11: media that he will quote never resign another Council News
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Speaker 11: Ryan here our CEO Sandy Graham's confirmed she's stepping down
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Speaker 11: from the job in October after six years. How's your weather,
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Speaker 11: Another frosty start at a fine day light, winds twelve
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Speaker 11: the high.
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Speaker 3: Nasma callum, thank you Claires and chrast this morning, Claire,
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Speaker 3: good morning. Rowley School can't teach intermediate Why yeah, this is.
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Speaker 12: A new development. Raleigh School, of Course is actually a
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Speaker 12: contributing primary school four years one to six, but it
20:10
Speaker 12: has been teaching year seven and eight for many years
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Speaker 12: through its bilingual programs. The board, though, has shared that
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Speaker 12: it's no longer able to offer that, and that's because
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Speaker 12: the program is technically offered at junior levels and so
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Speaker 12: it no longer meets the Ministry of Education criteria. The
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Speaker 12: current Year six students at Rowley will need to move
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Speaker 12: on next year they'll need to find a new school,
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Speaker 12: while Year seven students currently will be able to stay
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Speaker 12: on purely to finish their learning now. The board has
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Speaker 12: shared a lesser with its community, saying it's very frustrated
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Speaker 12: by the timing of this decision, as well as a
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Speaker 12: lack of clarity from the Ministry. They've also been denied
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Speaker 12: a request from the Ministry for a bit more time.
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Speaker 2: All right, how's your wear?
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Speaker 12: The clip foggy to start in christ It should clear
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Speaker 12: up but will be cloudy for much of the day.
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Speaker 12: Northeasterlies at a high twelve.
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Speaker 2: Enjoy Adam Cooper Wellington Morning, Adam. Mollie Wrunt is raid
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Speaker 2: charing hot water again here.
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Speaker 13: You remember Ray Chung making headlines about a year ago
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Speaker 13: when he sent a controversial email about then Mayor Tory Faro,
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Speaker 13: detailing leude, sex and drug rumors about her. But he
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Speaker 13: can't seem to stay out of the spotlight, often for
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Speaker 13: the bad reasons. He's now step down from chairing one
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Speaker 13: of the council's subcommittees. His official line is that he
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Speaker 13: just wants to focus on his wars and his constituents.
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Speaker 13: But this comes after police had contacted Mayor Andrew Little
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Speaker 13: about Chung's conduct during Wellington's severe weather state of emergency
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Speaker 13: last month. Now The Herald reports it relates to Chung's
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Speaker 13: involvement in the search for missing Carori man Philip Sutton,
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Speaker 13: who was sadly swept away in the floods now. Neither
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Speaker 13: the mayor or police want to lead on what this
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Speaker 13: supposed conduct was. We know he was out there and
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Speaker 13: a council branded high viz jacket. At the time, police
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Speaker 13: were urging residents to stay away from the search because
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Speaker 13: it was dangerous. We've asked Ray Chung for commed himself.
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Speaker 13: Nothing back from him yet his job as a counsel.
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Speaker 13: It seems safe for now, but no longer in charge
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Speaker 13: of this particular subcommittee. All right, how's the weather fine
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Speaker 13: one today for us?
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Speaker 2: Again? Today light winds and fourteen nice one. Thank you Neva,
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Carrington Road, Mount Albert what's happening.
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Speaker 14: Yes, now there's going to be an upgrade. Now, look
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Speaker 14: we know Carrington Road and Mount Albert. All the good
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Speaker 14: news is it's going to be wide and with two
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Speaker 14: new T two lanes, there's going to be physically separated
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Speaker 14: cycle ways, upgraded footpaths and also safe for pedestrian crossings. Now,
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Speaker 14: this already bustling road is set to get even busier,
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Speaker 14: with twelve thousand people expected to move into that area
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Speaker 14: in the next decade. Now we know that there's a
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Speaker 14: major housing development on former un Tech land that's expected
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Speaker 14: to be finished in the mid twenty thirties, and one
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Speaker 14: hundred and thirteen million dollars is going to be spent
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Speaker 14: on the road works. This is from the government's Infrastructure
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Speaker 14: Acceleration Fund.
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Speaker 2: Very good. How's our weather?
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Speaker 10: Fine?
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Speaker 14: Another fine day here in Auckland. Eighteen is the high nice.
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Speaker 2: One, nev.
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. It is nineteen minutes away from six.
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Speaker 2: Right it is quarter to six.
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Speaker 3: We'll get to back to the basics and a second first,
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Speaker 3: Leslie Yeomans and Australia for us.
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Speaker 2: Leslie, good morning, morning Royn.
24:35
Speaker 3: What's the problem with this wind farm, big new wind
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Speaker 3: farm that's being proposed.
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Speaker 15: Massive wind farm, biggest in southern in the Southern Hemisphere.
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Speaker 15: We're being told two hundred and nineteen turbines across twenty
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Speaker 15: six thousand hectares of land in western Victoria. Now it's
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Speaker 15: around Warwick Nobil in the West and the Victorian government's
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Speaker 15: done in an environmental effects statement on it says everything's
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Speaker 15: fine and it's given at the green light. But the
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Speaker 15: agricultural industry in the area says no, it's the effect
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Speaker 15: statement hasn't looked at everything. There are farmers in the
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Speaker 15: area who aren't happy. There's also some environmentalists in the
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Speaker 15: area that aren't happy. So the federal government hasn't given
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Speaker 15: it the green light as well yet, so we just
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Speaker 15: have to wait and see what's going to happen there.
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Speaker 15: But the Victorian government says everything's fine and it's going
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Speaker 15: to go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, on the East Coast, just loads of rain, loads
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Speaker 2: and loads.
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Speaker 15: It's very sloppy underfoot here. I'm in Queensland at the moment.
25:37
Speaker 15: It hasn't stopped raining for quite a few days. Parts
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Speaker 15: of outback Queensland are just one big, massive muddy mess.
25:46
Speaker 15: It's headed down right down through the East Coast and
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Speaker 15: what's happened is some over two hundred millimeters of rain
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Speaker 15: has fallen down around the Gold Coast in parts down there,
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Speaker 15: and there's more to come.
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Speaker 2: Leslie. Appreciate your update.
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Speaker 8: Liz.
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Speaker 2: The Yeoman's are Australia correspondent.
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Speaker 3: It is thirteen minutes away from six r Erica Stanford says,
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Speaker 3: the punt on structured literacy is already paying dividends.
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Speaker 16: Writing and year six mathematics are increasing by five percent
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Speaker 16: and six percent, respectively.
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Speaker 1: This exceeded our expectation.
26:18
Speaker 3: Now we've got this announcement of pouring one hundred and
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Speaker 3: thirty one million dollars out of the budget into education
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Speaker 3: targeting reading, writing, maths years zero through eight. Michael Johnston
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Speaker 3: is with US New Zealand Initiative Research Fellow Chair of
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Speaker 3: the Education Ministerial Advisory Group.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Ryan. And this money enough in
26:37
Speaker 2: going in the right places.
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Speaker 16: I think so. I think getting the early literacy and
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Speaker 16: mathematics right is key to a whole lot of other
26:45
Speaker 16: success later on. So it's a very good thing to
26:48
Speaker 16: support to make sure that our teachers have the tools
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Speaker 16: and the training they need to deliver all of this.
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Speaker 16: And hats off to them. They've got some really good
26:56
Speaker 16: results already in writing and maths.
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Speaker 2: When we say they need the tools, what tools do
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Speaker 2: they not have? I mean it's reading. You just need
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Speaker 2: a book, don't you? Or is it not as simple
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Speaker 2: as that.
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Speaker 16: Well, we're looking at particular kinds of books being supplied
27:09
Speaker 16: called decodable texts, and they're really useful to establish the
27:14
Speaker 16: correspondences between spelling and sound because all the words in
27:17
Speaker 16: them are regularly spelled, which means they conformed to those rules.
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Speaker 16: So that's an important for a particular stage of teaching reading.
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Speaker 3: Did these results just blow up this argument around structured
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Speaker 3: literacy that it was going to be this terrible thing.
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Speaker 16: Well, it certainly isn't a terrible thing if it's causing
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Speaker 16: a left in writing. It takes a while to bed
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Speaker 16: these things in, so I'd expect to see the same
27:44
Speaker 16: happening and reading before long. I certainly think the data
27:49
Speaker 16: challenge that argument.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and it sort of bigs the question why we
27:54
Speaker 3: were led down that path and stayed on it for
27:56
Speaker 3: so long, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 16: Yeah, Well, I mean there was a bit of ideology
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Speaker 16: behind it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it was.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So we've got our resources coming, our teachers seem
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Speaker 3: to be on board. What more do we need to
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Speaker 3: do to turn this ship around?
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Speaker 16: We just need to keep at it, you know, for
28:15
Speaker 16: a few years. Unfortunately, educational reform doesn't follow a political timetable,
28:21
Speaker 16: so you don't necessarily see booming results in one electoral cycle.
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Speaker 16: It takes time for the practice to bed in and
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Speaker 16: for the techniques to show in the data.
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Speaker 3: Are you worried about where the money is coming from?
28:37
Speaker 3: I mean, the unions are obviously a bit concerned about
28:39
Speaker 3: This has been partly reprioritized from other places.
28:42
Speaker 2: We're just not sure where.
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Speaker 16: Well, it may be other parts of the economy, or
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Speaker 16: government spending. I doubt that that we cuts to other Well,
28:51
Speaker 16: we've got the fees three things being cut for universities,
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Speaker 16: and I support that because it's a failed It hasn't
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Speaker 16: done anything to lift enrollments at the university from lower
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Speaker 16: socioeconomic backgrounds. That's a lot of money, but I think
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Speaker 16: that's going into vocational education at the other end of education.
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Speaker 16: But I'd very much doubt that we'll see any money
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Speaker 16: cut from the school sector.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't make much sense at a time like this, Michael.
29:22
Speaker 2: Just a final question.
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Speaker 3: I don't know whether you've been across overnight. Eric Schmidt,
29:26
Speaker 3: who's a former Google boss, we speaking to a bunch
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Speaker 3: of students Arizona State and they were all booing when
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Speaker 3: he was talking about AI.
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Speaker 2: All the students, you know.
29:34
Speaker 3: They about to graduate from university, go and get jobs,
29:37
Speaker 3: except AI has swooped in there and taken the jobs
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Speaker 3: from them. What do you tell people about AI? You know,
29:43
Speaker 3: what what on earth do you study? Do you bother studying?
29:45
Speaker 3: What do you do to make sure you get a
29:47
Speaker 3: job at the end of all of this education?
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Speaker 16: Well, to be honest, at the school end of things,
29:53
Speaker 16: I wouldn't change all that much. I mean, it's fine
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Speaker 16: for some older kids to learn what AI is, and
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Speaker 16: we certainly need to teach young people to learn it
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Speaker 16: use it responsibly. But there's a great danger if we
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Speaker 16: think that we can just throw it at education. Willy
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Speaker 16: Lilly will have a whole lot of kids who don't
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Speaker 16: learn any knowledge for themselves. And if they don't learn
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Speaker 16: any knowledge, they can't be creative and they can't think critically.
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Speaker 16: So actually, what we need to do in education is
30:23
Speaker 16: not changed all that much by the advent of AI.
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Speaker 16: It doesn't really change what kids need to learn, except
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Speaker 16: that they do need some specific skills around using AI
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Speaker 16: well and not have to undermine their learning.
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Speaker 3: Doctor Michael Johnston, New Zealand Initiative Research Fellow with me
30:39
Speaker 3: this morning. It is nine minutes away from six D.
30:42
Speaker 3: By the way, you know how Labour's got the fees
30:44
Speaker 3: free GP thing free GP visits, three of them for anyone,
30:48
Speaker 3: doesn't matter for a billionaire. Billionaire gets three free GP
30:53
Speaker 3: visits under Labor. Great and I should verized all came
30:57
Speaker 3: out yesterday. I was talking to the Post saying, don't worry,
30:59
Speaker 3: we're not going to overwhelm the clinics, even though the
31:01
Speaker 3: clinics are already supposedly overwhelmed, and they are not committing
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Speaker 3: any more funding to training more doctors. Speaking of AI,
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Speaker 3: aischaviral says Ai is going to solve some of these problems,
31:13
Speaker 3: that AI will cut paperwork for doctors. She has plans
31:17
Speaker 3: to introduce a new triarging system, and Aischaviril is claiming
31:23
Speaker 3: that they will create four and a half million extra
31:27
Speaker 3: appointments every single year. Therefore, no problem to see here.
31:32
Speaker 3: Do we believe that eight to six.
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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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Speaker 3: Be six minutes away from six. It's a bit disheartening
31:48
Speaker 3: when you get texts like this Ryan. I wish Erica
31:50
Speaker 3: would come and see the new entrance in my class.
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Speaker 2: And the lack of skills they arrive with.
31:55
Speaker 3: They cannot access what is required at the beginning stages
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Speaker 3: of the curriculum. I love structured literacy, which is good,
32:01
Speaker 3: but these kids can't even speak in sentences, hold a pencil,
32:05
Speaker 3: sit and listen to a story or anything that's communicated
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Speaker 3: to them. What is happening at EC send is to
32:12
Speaker 3: prepare them.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not there, but apparently it's not great morning mate.
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Speaker 2: Well they probably don't go to ec well.
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Speaker 3: A lot of them do go easy and they end
32:22
Speaker 3: up just sitting there with not really much happening around them.
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Speaker 17: Apparently we be celebrating the weather more what weather, the
32:28
Speaker 17: beautiful weather? Oh yeah, I mean you see you you've
32:31
Speaker 17: done as a surprise. And this classic journalism. So we
32:33
Speaker 17: only ever talk about the miserable weather. Have you seen
32:36
Speaker 17: the weather lately? I literally living.
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Speaker 2: In California, I'm alive.
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Speaker 17: So every single day has been clear, blue skies with
32:44
Speaker 17: no wind, cool in the morning, warm in the afternoon.
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Speaker 3: Weather absolutely to be fair. Auckland is always like this
32:50
Speaker 3: at this time.
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Speaker 17: Simply not true.
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Speaker 2: It is, and it turns to rubbish after winter and
32:56
Speaker 2: it gets all pretty much national.
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Speaker 17: At the moment, I think it's I think it's a Nina.
33:00
Speaker 17: So I've been studying up on our own Nina. Right,
33:02
Speaker 17: So the old Nino, the super old Nino, which hasn't
33:05
Speaker 17: formed yet, and there's a couple of things that need
33:07
Speaker 17: to happen for the super old Nino to become super
33:10
Speaker 17: and it almost happened in twenty fourteen and twenty seventeen. Right,
33:13
Speaker 17: but the things that needed to happen didn't happen. Right,
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Speaker 17: So when is the good weather going to end?
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Speaker 2: Never? May never end?
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Speaker 17: And what I'm saying, what I'm saying is that the
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Speaker 17: beauty of that is bring it on.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is the future. More police.
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Speaker 3: What I saw yesterday was a couple in their convertible
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Speaker 3: driving around And how perfect is that?
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Speaker 17: That is very lam We are in the middle to
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Speaker 17: the latter part of May dropping our tops.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how good. You can't argue with that? Can
33:42
Speaker 2: you need?
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Speaker 17: We need to celebrate the good news more. So, that's
33:45
Speaker 17: all I'm saying. Celebrate the good news more.
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Speaker 2: I will do. Enjoy it up.
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Speaker 3: Hopefully it doesn't rain today or that would put it.
33:52
Speaker 17: Can I rain in the forecast?
33:54
Speaker 2: It's a sunny forever where it was? Make next.
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