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Golden Girl Code with Jennifer Fessler (The Golden Life S1 Ep 2 Recap) · I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

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Speaker 1: Hey, I do part two. It's your celebrity mentor, Kelly
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Speaker 1: Ben Simone. And I'm so excited because we're recapping the
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Speaker 1: new show, The Golden Life here on the pod. And
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Speaker 1: we are with Jennifer Fessler. Jen! Kelly!
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Speaker 2: Hi!
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Speaker 1: Wait, long time no see.
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Speaker 2: Long time no see, I have to say. Yeah, I'm thrown.
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Speaker 3: Just let's start it out with that because I don't
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Speaker 3: know who's doing your hair right now, but I don't
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Speaker 3: know what Sonia was talking about with you don't brush
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Speaker 3: your hair.
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Speaker 2: Your hair looks amazing. The color.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: It looks very brushed. Really?
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: It really, really does.
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Speaker 1: It looks very brushed.
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Speaker 2: And I'm so excited to be here because I am dying. Well,
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Speaker 2: you know what?
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Speaker 1: In Florida, there's so much humidity. So it's like, you know, I,
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Speaker 1: and I have that kind of hair that just like
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Speaker 1: the humidity.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know what she was talking about.
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Speaker 1: Your hair always looks gorgeous. I think that they, they,
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Speaker 1: they also like, you know, nod to these comments like,
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Speaker 1: oh my God, she needs to brush your hair. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, sometimes I don't brush my hair 24 seven.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm not walking around with a brush like
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Speaker 1: I'm in high school.
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Speaker 2: Doing it.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. You're welcome. My Jen Jen. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: So let's get into this. First of all, the golden life.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm so great.
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Speaker 2: I am loving it.
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Speaker 1: Every Tuesday night, 10 PM and hours streaming on Hulu.
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Speaker 2: I know. I believe me.
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Speaker 3: I know. I've been watching it actually on Hulu. The
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Speaker 3: third episode just came out. So I cannot wait to
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Speaker 3: actually watch it, but it is so good for me.
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Speaker 3: It's like, all of the elements from New York and
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Speaker 3: that classic feeling of this group of wackos that are
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Speaker 3: together and crazy. And their antics are so much fun
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Speaker 3: to watch. I did have a couple of moments of PTSD.
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Speaker 3: I was, I got like a little scared, like scary
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Speaker 3: Island started to was.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Exactly.
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Speaker 2: So I got a little, I got, I did get that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But in general, it's like, I'm being honest. It's like
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Speaker 3: watching New York, all the best parts of it. even
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Speaker 3: better watching you guys together again. It's like you didn't
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Speaker 3: miss a beat.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so crazy because, you know, I started
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Speaker 1: filming in 2009 and it's the same energy, the same connection.
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Speaker 1: I'm the same person. I'm always, I mean, like I've
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Speaker 1: always been the voice of reason. They just didn't want
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Speaker 1: to show me like that. And it's just, we're the same,
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Speaker 1: but it's just so connected. And I think that like
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Speaker 1: genuinely after COVID, like people are starving to, to see
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Speaker 1: what human connection really looks like. And you can't, you
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Speaker 1: can't turn the TV off when you watch us. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't watch it.
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Speaker 3: Personally, I don't, your connections are so wacky to me.
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Speaker 3: Like I don't even, that's why I love it. Like,
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Speaker 3: it's like, who are these aliens? How are they speaking
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Speaker 3: to each other?
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Speaker 1: It is.
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Speaker 2: And I love every second of it.
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Speaker 3: It's so, I remember like back in the day, watching
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Speaker 3: New York and looking at Ramona and I'd be like,
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Speaker 3: is she a Martian? How is she talking to people?
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Speaker 3: I have, you know, who talks to people like this?
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Speaker 3: But it was, fascinating and so fun to watch. Right.
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Speaker 2: And it just has not skipped a beat.
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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because, you know, she worked in the
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Speaker 1: fashion business and she worked with a lot of men
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Speaker 1: and we spoke about this and she was just, cause we,
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Speaker 1: cause I work a lot with a lot of men
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Speaker 1: and I'm just like, sometimes I'm like, this is a
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Speaker 1: cakewalk for me being, you know, being on the show
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Speaker 1: is a cakewalk working in my industry is so tough
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Speaker 1: working with these very, very aggressive men. And she's like,
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Speaker 1: I know me too. I had to do that too.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh my God, we're in the
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Speaker 1: same boat.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I see you as very different personality types,
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Speaker 3: but we can, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't speak like that to people, but
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Speaker 1: I do know what it's like to work with men,
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Speaker 1: and it is not a cakewalk.
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Speaker 2: I can hear that.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the golden life. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: 12 hours later, Luann is still upset because Sonia and
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Speaker 1: Ramona were dancing with Michael.
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Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
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Speaker 1: This is so funny, you're going to die. So at lunch,
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Speaker 1: we're sitting there, and Luann goes... She gave her an inch,
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Speaker 1: and she took the whole bratwurst.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good.
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Speaker 1: That was so good. That was good.
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Speaker 2: That was very cute.
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Speaker 3: I have to say, I'm sure it's already been said, damn, Luann,
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Speaker 3: well done.
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Speaker 1: I know that was a good one, right?
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Speaker 2: He is so hot. No, I don't mean the saying.
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Speaker 2: I mean the man.
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Speaker 1: Oh, Michael, very nice guy.
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Speaker 2: Damn, nice.
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Speaker 1: Very nice, yeah.
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Speaker 2: About hot AF. I think that's what the kids say.
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Speaker 1: Jen Fessler.
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Speaker 2: He is.
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Speaker 1: That was what the kids say.
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. But how about Sonia? She's like, she humps everything.
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Speaker 1: She humps lamps.
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Speaker 2: I mean. I mean, what? Yeah, I mean, I think
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Speaker 2: she would say that.
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Speaker 1: Lamps.
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Speaker 2: I think she would say that. Like, that's her whole world.
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Speaker 2: What is she? Eat, sleep, dick or whatever?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
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Speaker 1: Eat, sleep, dick.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: And then, you know, we're starting to talk a lot
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Speaker 1: about Sonia and her drinking. And, you know, this is
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Speaker 1: a big, big, big thing. Narrative in this episode because
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Speaker 1: we're seeing a lot of drinking, non-drinking, fighting about drinking.
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Speaker 3: If I'm being honest, I don't see it that it
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Speaker 3: was a big factor in the episode except for Luann.
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Speaker 3: I didn't see anybody else seeming that concerned. I feel
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Speaker 3: like that was kind of fueled by- Luann. And I
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Speaker 3: was surprised by it only because only knowing that Luann
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Speaker 3: has had, you know, her own struggles.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: And she seemed very attached to me to, you know,
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Speaker 3: sort of like outing Sonia. I don't know where that's
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Speaker 3: coming from.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: But I don't know. I felt like. Why are you, why,
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Speaker 2: what is, what are you diving into? What do you want?
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Speaker 2: Almost like, what do you want to discover here?
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: So I felt bad for Sonia in terms of that
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Speaker 3: because clearly, and she's not the only one I can name,
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Speaker 3: not you, but there are several ladies on the show
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Speaker 3: who have, you know, had issues with drinking.
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Speaker 2: Right. And, And they're still drinking.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: So, you know.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think, too, and you know this, too,
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Speaker 1: from being on Jersey. Like, you know, you're in this microscope,
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Speaker 1: under this microscope, and you're in this bubble. And you're
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Speaker 1: filming every single day. Yeah. Two to three times a day.
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Speaker 1: And there's always a glass of wine. And, you know,
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Speaker 1: I found myself in Palm Beach, like, having a glass
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Speaker 1: of rosé at lunch and dinner. And I started... Like
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Speaker 1: I was, you see me in the scene, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I'll have a piscine, which is literally a red wine
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Speaker 1: glass with rosé and tons of ice. I had to
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Speaker 1: dilute it.
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Speaker 3: That guy was looking at you, by the way. He
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Speaker 3: was also adorable. Yeah, I'll get you a piscine.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Kelly.
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Speaker 1: No, but I literally had to dilute the rosé because
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Speaker 1: it was just too much. I was just like, we
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Speaker 1: were drinking, we were drinking, I mean, minimum two glasses.
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Speaker 2: A day, which- Oh my God, that's not, I'm a drinker.
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Speaker 2: So like that to me is.
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Speaker 1: Right, but for me, that's a lot to be drinking.
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Speaker 1: Like I don't drink at lunch. Like I can't drink
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Speaker 1: at lunch, but I was drinking at lunch and at
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Speaker 1: dinner and then we were going for drinks and it
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Speaker 1: was just like.
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Speaker 3: Listen, again, I don't, I feel like most of those
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Speaker 3: women are drinkers. I don't know about Ramona. So I
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Speaker 3: didn't really get the hook. Like, okay, Sonia's not drinking.
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Speaker 2: She is drinking. Who gives a shit? She's being drunk.
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Speaker 2: over the top. She's crazy. She's a mess. That's classic Sonia.
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Speaker 2: Everyone is here for it.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: She's a fun party girl. And we, I mean, we,
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Speaker 1: she's always been that girl. Do you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: And I think that like what happened is that Luann
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Speaker 1: came from doing all these shows and she flies down
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Speaker 1: to Palm Beach and she's ready to relax and have
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Speaker 1: a good time with her friends. And having a couple
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Speaker 1: of glasses of wine is part of that. And Sonia
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Speaker 1: was like, I live here. Like, I don't need to
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Speaker 1: have a glass of wine on a Tuesday. If I
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Speaker 1: want to, I can, but she doesn't need to. She
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Speaker 1: was drinking a lot of these mocktails, and then, you know,
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Speaker 1: who knows?
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that she wasn't drinking. I don't judge people.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, do you?
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Speaker 2: I'm saying that she wasn't hiding it, you know?
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: Because it did look, she was completely fucked up at
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Speaker 3: that dinner. I had no idea what Sonia was doing,
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Speaker 3: but she definitely seemed out of her mind. And she
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Speaker 3: was on a tear, farting on the way to the bathroom.
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Speaker 3: burping at the table. I mean, it also was kind
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Speaker 3: of gross and sloppy, but it reminds me of me.
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Speaker 3: So I, I, you know, I sort of enjoy watching
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Speaker 3: someone that's not me act like that. I don't fart period.
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Speaker 3: I can't, if you fart in front of me, our
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Speaker 3: friendship is over. I have a weird thing with it.
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Speaker 1: I I'm telling you, I do like smell or is
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Speaker 1: it like, it's.
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Speaker 3: Just that I don't want to smell what's inside of you.
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Speaker 3: I get really pissed. Like you can control it.
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Speaker 2: Go to the bathroom.
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Speaker 1: What if people vomit next to you or near you
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Speaker 1: or around you?
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Speaker 2: That's less offensive to me.
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Speaker 1: In all honesty.
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Speaker 2: I mean, she's so funny.
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Speaker 3: She's like sticking her finger down her throat with the
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Speaker 3: cameras and I'm farting.
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Speaker 2: And I mean, she's just.
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Speaker 1: Something is happening. It's not coming out this way. It's
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Speaker 1: not going out that way.
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Speaker 2: They call me messy fessy. So I relate to this behavior.
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Speaker 3: But I definitely think that Luann is being hard on
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Speaker 3: her and trying to out her with the drinking.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 1: I think that, again, like I think that Luann is
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Speaker 1: just like, let's party. And she's not really thinking about
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Speaker 1: whether it's good for Sonia or not. She's just ready
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Speaker 1: to party.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't mind her being ready to party.
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Speaker 3: I just don't know why she's so attached to what
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Speaker 3: Sonya's doing, whether or not she's drinking. Right.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's also because there's only five of us.
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Speaker 1: It's like we're all like laser focused on each other. Laser. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, just like constantly, what are you doing? What
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Speaker 1: are you thinking? What are you wearing? Where are you going?
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Speaker 1: Why are you talking like that?
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Speaker 2: Lynn is the only one that seems so focused on that.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: For whatever reason.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let's get to the dating.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Kelly.
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Speaker 1: I mean, not the dating, my dating.
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Speaker 2: Your dating.
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Speaker 1: So I'm back on the, back, you know.
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Speaker 2: You are back, baby.
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Speaker 1: I am back.
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Speaker 2: Well, you never, when are you not dating? I don't
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Speaker 2: think I've ever known you where there wasn't someone that
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Speaker 2: was calling.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, literally, you know, it's funny because after being,
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Speaker 1: you know, single for so many years and, you know,
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Speaker 1: being in a relationship, I had to call off a,
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Speaker 1: you know, wedding and then just getting into another relationship
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Speaker 1: who I really, I really, really cared about him, but
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Speaker 1: we were so far away and the connection, the real connection,
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Speaker 1: the emotional connection was not there. And the safety was
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Speaker 1: not there. And that's just so important for women. All women,
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Speaker 1: they should feel like very safe with their man. Not like,
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Speaker 1: oh my God, he walks across the street with me
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Speaker 1: to make sure I don't get hit by a car.
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Speaker 1: But like genuine safety, like looks out for me, make
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Speaker 1: sure I got home okay.
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Speaker 2: That's everything, of course. Everything, everything. I have to say,
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Speaker 2: you rebound so quickly. I do?
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Speaker 3: Yes, when you broke up with the guy that you're
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Speaker 3: referring to.
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Speaker 2: I remember just being like, are you okay?
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Speaker 1: And I, yeah, I was like, what?
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Speaker 3: And I don't know if that has to do with
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Speaker 3: the fact that you said it on the show, you've
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Speaker 3: never been in love, which I find very surprising and sad.
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Speaker 1: So sad.
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Speaker 2: No, I mean, listen, you're a happy woman. You've had
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Speaker 2: a happy life.
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Speaker 1: I am. I've had an interesting life. I've had a
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Speaker 1: colorful life. I wouldn't say a great life, but it's been,
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Speaker 1: it hasn't been easy. You know, my life has not
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Speaker 1: been easy. And I think that a lot of people
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Speaker 1: just think that it's just, This like, you know, curls, eyelashes,
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Speaker 1: purple blazers. Life is so easy. It's not what you present.
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Speaker 1: You don't present. Well, because I don't want to be
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Speaker 1: the girl that cries on TikTok and is like, poor me.
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Speaker 1: I've never ever seen you be like, poor me. No,
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Speaker 1: I will not be like that.
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Speaker 3: I'll go back to Scary Island. You were eating jelly
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Speaker 3: beans while they were attacking.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 1: Thank God for my jelly beans.
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Speaker 2: Thank God for your jelly beans.
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Speaker 1: My friend group. Yes, exactly.
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Speaker 2: Your colorful little friend group.
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Speaker 3: No, but I mean, I, I honestly, I was, I,
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Speaker 3: I've never known you. I've known you for a while now,
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Speaker 3: not to be dating, not to be putting yourself out there.
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Speaker 1: So just to be open to it, to see what
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Speaker 1: goes on. It was so interesting because I was really
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Speaker 1: for a long time thinking to myself, okay, I'm looking
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Speaker 1: for this forever person. And then, you know, Heather and
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Speaker 1: I were talking one day, our producer, and I just
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Speaker 1: was like, Heather, like, what am I looking for? I
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Speaker 1: already have it. What am I looking for? Why am
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Speaker 1: I searching for something that I already have? Beautiful kids,
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Speaker 1: great family, great friendships, you know, great life, you know, work.
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Speaker 2: I'd like to see you with, I'd like to see
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Speaker 2: you with a partner.
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Speaker 1: Me too.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: But I also, maybe I'm, maybe like, maybe this idea,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I always wanted to get remarried and have kids.
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Speaker 1: That's not happening anymore. Those days are over. And so
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Speaker 1: maybe it's just like, maybe I should just settle into like,
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Speaker 1: Who I am and be with someone and just be
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Speaker 1: with them. Why do I have to like get married again?
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Speaker 1: Or like, I just want that. I just really want
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Speaker 1: that moment. That real love moment where I'm like so
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Speaker 1: in love with someone that I want that moment.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you may not have been in love with anyone,
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Speaker 2: but I have no doubt in my mind that there
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Speaker 2: have been many men in love with you.
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Speaker 1: I loved them, but I wasn't in love with them.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't like, oh my God.
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Speaker 2: I met Jeff Bessler. I was not... I broke up
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Speaker 2: with him. I was like, there is no spark here.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: And he, you know, he kind of wore me down. And,
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm 58 years old. There's not one person
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Speaker 3: in the world I'd rather be with. And I don't
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Speaker 3: mean just because I'm so in love with him.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that.
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Speaker 1: Like, that is not.
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Speaker 2: I'm 58.
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 2: You know, I just because I like him so much.
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Speaker 1: And because he loves you.
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Speaker 3: We're just partners, you know, and that's what.
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Speaker 1: I want for you. He adores you. Adores you.
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Speaker 2: You're making it look like I carried away.
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Speaker 1: I'm serious.
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Speaker 3: I see how I do.
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Speaker 2: It's all right. Anyway, it's not about me. It's about
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Speaker 2: you and the stables.
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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying like what I am looking for.
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Speaker 1: And I think that like after, you know, being on
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Speaker 1: the pod for, you know, a couple of years now
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Speaker 1: and just kind of talking through all of these insecurities
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Speaker 1: that I've had for so long, I think one of
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Speaker 1: the things that like was this like really baseline important
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Speaker 1: thing for me is safety. And I just haven't found
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Speaker 1: that in a man. What do you, what happens when you-
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Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about that, what happens in Florida.
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Speaker 1: I'm just curious.
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Speaker 3: It's like, what, give me, you don't have to name them,
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Speaker 3: but like, tell me in terms of like a specific,
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Speaker 3: what makes you What does a man do that is
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Speaker 3: making you feel unsafe or is not making you feel protected?
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Speaker 1: You know, I think that because my father was a
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Speaker 1: lawyer and, you know, came from nothing, you know, was
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Speaker 1: in the military with, you know, a fantastic, I mean, amazing,
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Speaker 1: amazing lawyer. Number one in his class, University of Illinois,
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Speaker 1: like self-made, very, very protective of my mother and us.
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Speaker 1: And was always like, when I would be in Paris,
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Speaker 1: I would call him and like, It'd be like two
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Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. I'd be like, hi, daddy. Nine
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Speaker 1: o'clock every day, every single day. And he'd be like,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna do great. You're gonna do a great job.
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Speaker 1: Like he'd be there at swim meets. He was just
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Speaker 1: very supportive, made me feel safe and never said to me,
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Speaker 1: you can't do something. It was like, whatever you need
14:49
Speaker 1: to do, I will make it happen. And even if
14:52
Speaker 1: there were situations that happened in his life, whether they were,
14:55
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know about our, you know, if
14:58
Speaker 1: we were, if we had money, if we didn't have money,
15:00
Speaker 1: we didn't, you know, it wasn't spoken in our family,
15:03
Speaker 1: but he always made everything possible and always made me
15:08
Speaker 1: feel safe. And I do that for my girls, but
15:12
Speaker 1: I've never been around a man who made me feel
15:14
Speaker 1: like that.
15:15
Speaker 3: I think that that is so interesting because my father
15:18
Speaker 3: was the opposite. I never felt safe. And I don't
15:23
Speaker 3: know that I was ever smart enough to say, okay,
15:25
Speaker 3: this is what I need. This man will make me
15:27
Speaker 3: feel safe. I think I just got lucky. But what
15:30
Speaker 3: you just described is the thing that I love the
15:32
Speaker 3: most about being married to Jeff Vessler. And I haven't
15:35
Speaker 3: really thought about it until you just said it.
15:38
Speaker 2: No, that's true.
15:38
Speaker 3: I really do mean that. It's bigger than that. It's
15:41
Speaker 3: what you described when you just described your dad. I
15:43
Speaker 3: can only imagine how many men, though, there are many,
15:47
Speaker 3: Good men they may be hard to find in this
15:48
Speaker 3: world would want to be that for you.
15:50
Speaker 1: But they don't have my back. They're like, they're just,
15:53
Speaker 1: it's like, I feel like I'm just in a world
15:55
Speaker 1: of like, these guys just want to be a plus one.
15:57
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, I want to be a plus
15:58
Speaker 1: one to your life.
15:59
Speaker 2: Right.
16:00
Speaker 1: Not mine. I don't need a plus one. I've got,
16:02
Speaker 1: I take my kids everywhere. I don't, I'm not taking you. Right.
16:05
Speaker 3: So I was engaged and we were taking a ride.
16:08
Speaker 3: I was, we were living in Guttenberg, New Jersey, and
16:11
Speaker 3: I was working in Hoboken, but I just moved in
16:14
Speaker 3: with Jeff. And I said to him, we were taking
16:16
Speaker 3: a drive into Hoboken. I was like, you know, when
16:19
Speaker 3: we get back tonight, we were going somewhere. I need
16:21
Speaker 3: to figure out where the bus, how I can get
16:23
Speaker 3: on the bus to get to work or whatever. And
16:25
Speaker 3: I don't know why I thought this in the morning.
16:28
Speaker 3: When I said it to him, it was early and
16:29
Speaker 3: we had a whole day in front of us. And
16:30
Speaker 3: my expectation was that he was not going to remember.
16:33
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
16:35
Speaker 2: I like marked it.
16:36
Speaker 3: Like, I just didn't expect a man to remember. Like,
16:40
Speaker 3: that's what I was going to need in the morning.
16:41
Speaker 3: And we're coming home and I remember it was late.
16:43
Speaker 3: And he's like, all right, we have to go drive over.
16:45
Speaker 3: It sounds so silly, right? But we have to go
16:48
Speaker 3: do the route so you know where you're going. And
16:50
Speaker 3: that has stuck with me throughout my marriage, that I
16:53
Speaker 3: said it to him. Once.
16:55
Speaker 2: It was about me. It was once.
16:56
Speaker 1: It was important.
16:57
Speaker 2: And it was important. And I could count on him. Right.
17:00
Speaker 2: You know?
17:01
Speaker 1: I have never had that. I have never been in
17:04
Speaker 1: a relationship with a man I could count on. Never.
17:06
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to need to talk a little more here.
17:09
Speaker 2: I mean, I... I don't know why you can't or haven't,
17:13
Speaker 2: not can't, why you haven't found that.
17:15
Speaker 1: Because I think that the wrong guys are attracted to me.
17:19
Speaker 1: I think that they think that I'm the alpha. And
17:21
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not the alpha. I have to be
17:24
Speaker 1: the alpha. It's a different thing. It's different. I don't
17:27
Speaker 1: want to be the alpha. I want him to be
17:29
Speaker 1: the alpha. I want to push them forward.
17:31
Speaker 2: How do you pick that out before you waste time, right?
17:34
Speaker 1: I know. I know. It's really crazy. Anyway, so I'm
17:37
Speaker 1: on Raya again. And I love Raya because it's just...
17:41
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that are similar to my lifestyle.
17:44
Speaker 3: Sure.
17:46
Speaker 1: Whether they're actors, CEOs, whatever they are. It's just, there
17:49
Speaker 1: are a lot of really good guys. So I'm on Raya.
17:52
Speaker 1: I just broken up with my guy and you were
17:54
Speaker 1: so sweet to check in with me. And I'm like,
17:56
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just going to go Raya. Like my
17:58
Speaker 1: profile picture is like me, like looking down, you can't
18:01
Speaker 1: even see my face, looking down with like all this,
18:03
Speaker 1: all my polo equipment. Cause my daughter was like, you
18:05
Speaker 1: have to show a vibe. You can't like show your face.
18:08
Speaker 1: I'm like a vibe. I'm like, shouldn't they see my face?
18:11
Speaker 2: My daughter's like, you know, the vibe is off.
18:14
Speaker 1: Right.
18:14
Speaker 2: It's the vibe. Go on. I'm sorry.
18:16
Speaker 1: So anyway, so this is a picture of me and
18:18
Speaker 1: I'll screenshot. Oh, I can't screenshot, but I'll show it
18:20
Speaker 1: to you. And so you don't really know like who
18:24
Speaker 1: I am or what's going on. So cut to, there's
18:27
Speaker 1: this guy, Nick, and he's an Olympic snowboarder. I had
18:31
Speaker 1: no idea. It's just, he was a snowboarder. And I
18:33
Speaker 1: just thought, I was like, this guy is from upper peninsula.
18:36
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's from the Midwest. Well, he's not really
18:38
Speaker 1: from the Midwest, but he kind of is. And he
18:41
Speaker 1: is like so fun. You can see, he's like comes
18:46
Speaker 1: off the page. He's got this very dynamic personality. And
18:50
Speaker 1: so we started texting and he's like, yeah, I have
18:56
Speaker 1: a race tomorrow. And I'm like, oh, that's so great. Congratulations.
18:59
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I'm in the Olympics. I'm like, wait, what?
19:02
Speaker 1: Like the Olympics? You're texting me from the Olympics right now?
19:07
Speaker 1: You're right.
19:08
Speaker 2: I can turn on the TV tomorrow and watch you. Right.
19:11
Speaker 2: Race in the Olympics. Right.
19:12
Speaker 1: I could have just watched him. Yes. Snowboard. Snowboard.
19:15
Speaker 2: Excuse me.
19:15
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sorry.
19:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool.
19:19
Speaker 1: I literally was like, drop the mic. This guy is
19:23
Speaker 1: a baller. Like very cool guy.
19:27
Speaker 2: I feel like that.
19:29
Speaker 1: And so I just was like, I'm listening. I'm in
19:31
Speaker 1: Palm Beach. Do you want to come and go? Because
19:34
Speaker 1: he was going to be in Palm Beach with some
19:35
Speaker 1: of the other friends playing golf because all the athletes
19:38
Speaker 1: go to Palm Beach to play golf. And so I
19:42
Speaker 1: was like, if you're here, do you want to go
19:44
Speaker 1: on a date? And he was like, sure. So he
19:47
Speaker 1: flies down. And he meets me at this.
19:50
Speaker 2: He flew down for the date.
19:51
Speaker 1: Well, he was down for golf. Okay. He was playing golf.
19:53
Speaker 2: Okay.
19:55
Speaker 1: And he flew, you know, he was down for there.
19:58
Speaker 1: He was down for golf. And then he came to
20:00
Speaker 1: see me. And I was like, let's go ride horses.
20:03
Speaker 1: Do you ride horses?
20:04
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. I mean, obviously you
20:06
Speaker 3: had to tell him that it was going to get filmed.
20:08
Speaker 1: Right.
20:09
Speaker 2: And he was cool.
20:10
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. He was totally fine. He didn't care.
20:11
Speaker 2: Well, that says something also. I don't know what it says,
20:14
Speaker 2: but I know it says something.
20:15
Speaker 1: Well, true story. Because every single guy is like, I
20:17
Speaker 1: just don't want to be in the press. And I
20:20
Speaker 1: don't want to be filmed. I'm like, they don't want
20:21
Speaker 1: you anyway, you slug. Like, gross. Like, why would you
20:25
Speaker 1: say that to somebody? How rude. I would never say
20:28
Speaker 1: that to somebody.
20:29
Speaker 2: Maybe insecurity. Yeah. I would just say, you know, I
20:31
Speaker 2: don't want to be on camera. Who knows why? But
20:34
Speaker 2: I also think, but I think it's hard either way. Right.
20:36
Speaker 3: If he, if they're like, oh no, don't, I'm fine
20:39
Speaker 3: with that. That's a little scary.
20:40
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. You know, he wasn't fine with it,
20:43
Speaker 1: but he didn't care. And I like that because fine
20:46
Speaker 1: with it means like, you're just like a clout farmer
20:49
Speaker 1: and not fine with it means you just want to
20:51
Speaker 1: be known by the world, but you're just pretending that
20:53
Speaker 1: you don't.
20:54
Speaker 2: Right. It's hard, but you're in the hard position there. Right.
20:57
Speaker 2: Cause like, You're being filmed. That's your reality.
21:01
Speaker 1: It's my work.
21:02
Speaker 2: Yes.
21:02
Speaker 1: So cut to, so we go to the, we go
21:04
Speaker 1: to the polar fields and I'm just like, okay, this
21:06
Speaker 1: is going to be great. I talked to my, my
21:09
Speaker 1: chief of staff. She like does all my business for me. Very,
21:13
Speaker 1: very bright woman. And she was like, Kelly, you've got
21:15
Speaker 1: to get out there. She was really pushing me to
21:17
Speaker 1: do this. And I was like, I don't know if
21:18
Speaker 1: I want to film. I don't want to film dating anymore.
21:20
Speaker 1: I'm like, everyone's going to be like, oh my God,
21:22
Speaker 1: Kelly's dating. You know, it's like, so I go to
21:26
Speaker 1: the polar fields and And I walk up to this
21:33
Speaker 1: man and his name is Juan. I was like, of
21:37
Speaker 1: course your name is. Do you, are you featured in
21:41
Speaker 1: like any kind of telenovela or like, is there something
21:44
Speaker 1: I don't know? He's like, Kelly, Kelly. I was like,
21:49
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what? Kelly, Kelly?
21:51
Speaker 2: You never met him before.
21:52
Speaker 1: Never. Never. I was just like, who is this person?
21:55
Speaker 2: Okay.
21:55
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait a minute, I'm on a double date.
21:58
Speaker 2: So, okay, go on.
21:59
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows if Juan, I mean, Juan and
22:01
Speaker 1: I became friends, but who knows if he's dating? I
22:03
Speaker 1: never even asked him. But I just was like, wow.
22:08
Speaker 2: Really, Kel?
22:09
Speaker 1: Well, it's because it's like, that's what I love. That's
22:10
Speaker 1: my like happy place is like my, is around horses.
22:14
Speaker 1: And you really never see, I mean, polo players are
22:17
Speaker 1: very attractive, but they're typically not very tall. That's interesting.
22:23
Speaker 1: So this guy was very tall and very attractive and
22:26
Speaker 1: age appropriate. And I was like, wow.
22:29
Speaker 2: I wasn't feeling it.
22:30
Speaker 1: Really?
22:30
Speaker 2: Not really.
22:31
Speaker 1: We should see him in real life, though.
22:32
Speaker 2: No, it's not that he wasn't attractive.
22:34
Speaker 1: No, I'm telling you, it was like, I swear to God,
22:36
Speaker 1: it was like telenovela, like full on. I mean, I
22:39
Speaker 1: was like, I needed like a fan to like blow
22:42
Speaker 1: my hair around.
22:43
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just because I just don't feel that anymore.
22:45
Speaker 1: Period.
22:46
Speaker 2: I'm dead inside.
22:47
Speaker 1: You know, you're new. I'm 58.
22:50
Speaker 2: I'm two.
22:51
Speaker 1: Right.
22:51
Speaker 2: I thought we were the same age.
22:52
Speaker 3: Yeah.
22:52
Speaker 2: Um, hard to tell, but yes, we're the same age,
22:55
Speaker 2: but yeah, no, I, uh, no one.
22:57
Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. So when, so then, so I'm like, Nick,
23:00
Speaker 1: you're going to get on this horse named supermodel. It
23:02
Speaker 1: was like, okay.
23:04
Speaker 2: They had to do that on purpose, right? Pull out supermodel.
23:07
Speaker 1: I literally did not even know. I don't even think
23:09
Speaker 1: they knew. I think they were just like, we're filming
23:11
Speaker 1: and then I show up and then the horse is
23:13
Speaker 1: named supermodel. I think it was literally, I don't think
23:15
Speaker 1: it was planned because it just happens to be, and
23:18
Speaker 1: it's actually my friend's horse.
23:20
Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
23:20
Speaker 1: That's named supermodel. So it was just like totally serendipitous.
23:24
Speaker 3: Right.
23:24
Speaker 1: But very funny. Okay. And then he gets on the horse.
23:27
Speaker 1: And instead of being like nervous or anything, just zipping around.
23:30
Speaker 2: He's an athlete.
23:31
Speaker 1: And Juan is like, you, Kelly, you stay with me.
23:33
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa. So. Wow.
23:36
Speaker 2: Well, I would say, so Nick walks in and the
23:39
Speaker 2: Olympic thing is hot, right?
23:41
Speaker 1: Hot. But I didn't.
23:42
Speaker 3: So I don't know if it's just me. Again, maybe
23:44
Speaker 3: I was dead inside, but I didn't, I didn't. Your
23:47
Speaker 3: reaction to him, I was a little surprised at, right?
23:50
Speaker 2: Really?
23:50
Speaker 3: Because I just see you and you're like, you know, this,
23:53
Speaker 3: I don't know, six foot nine dreamy supermodel.
23:56
Speaker 1: Six foot nine.
23:57
Speaker 3: And this guy, whatever you are, and these, you know,
23:59
Speaker 3: and he was fine. I wasn't into the mustache, but
24:02
Speaker 3: he was cute. But I actually, he grew on me.
24:05
Speaker 3: Like once you guys were sitting down having your solo
24:08
Speaker 3: cup glasses of rosé or whatever. I was like, okay,
24:12
Speaker 3: I like, like his personality.
24:13
Speaker 2: Grew on me.
24:14
Speaker 1: His personality.
24:15
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:15
Speaker 1: Is amazing.
24:16
Speaker 2: Juan was very Rico Suave.
24:18
Speaker 1: Yes.
24:18
Speaker 3: But I mean, you just seem so like excited by
24:21
Speaker 3: both of them.
24:22
Speaker 2: And I feel like that is a little bit of
24:24
Speaker 2: your MO.
24:24
Speaker 3: Like you're so, like you meet a guy and instantly
24:29
Speaker 3: you're like, oh my God, he's so funny. He's so great.
24:32
Speaker 3: He's so handsome. He's so this. I would have been
24:35
Speaker 3: a little more like, We'll see.
24:38
Speaker 2: Eh, maybe, maybe not. I am.
24:40
Speaker 1: It's not that great looking. I'm like, I met a guy.
24:42
Speaker 3: Yes, you're always like, he's the funniest thing.
24:44
Speaker 2: I'm like, ain't that funny, Kelly.
24:45
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're getting so carried away about.
24:47
Speaker 3: I ain't that good looking, Kelly.
24:50
Speaker 1: First of all, I love you for that. And I
24:51
Speaker 1: love that you're just like so dry. And I am,
24:54
Speaker 1: I'm a cheerleader. I swear to God. I'm like, I
24:56
Speaker 1: need full on pom poms 24 seven.
24:57
Speaker 2: I mean, you haven't even given them a chance to say.
25:01
Speaker 3: Hello or make a joke. And you're like, he is
25:03
Speaker 3: so funny and so handsome. And I'm watching like, But
25:06
Speaker 3: he's not. I mean, maybe he's okay.
25:08
Speaker 2: Give me a minute.
25:09
Speaker 1: I'm also like, I get my like superpower is like
25:15
Speaker 1: I can pull out one person's like dynamic quality in
25:18
Speaker 1: like one second. Like I'm very, very good at that.
25:21
Speaker 1: And then I just feed off of that.
25:23
Speaker 2: Maybe you should make them work for it a little
25:25
Speaker 2: harder first.
25:25
Speaker 3: 100%.
25:25
Speaker 1: I don't know. take away, work harder. And I said
25:30
Speaker 1: that to him. And I said that to Juan. I
25:33
Speaker 1: was like, you can't, you know, you have to make
25:34
Speaker 1: these guys work for it. And he goes, no, don't
25:37
Speaker 1: make them work for it.
25:38
Speaker 2: Just give it away. I just watch you also.
25:40
Speaker 3: You're so charming and you're always giggling and you're always light.
25:45
Speaker 3: And I feel like you make it very easy on
25:48
Speaker 3: these guys.
25:49
Speaker 1: Wait, so I have to be tougher?
25:50
Speaker 2: No, I don't mean tougher.
25:52
Speaker 3: I just mean, I feel as if watching you that
25:55
Speaker 3: you are making it comfortable. You're so eager to make
25:58
Speaker 3: it comfortable and light and fun.
26:00
Speaker 1: Right.
26:01
Speaker 3: And I do think to myself, like, you don't have
26:04
Speaker 3: to work. They should be working that hard to make
26:07
Speaker 3: you feel comfortable and light. And like, you're the charming,
26:11
Speaker 3: funny one.
26:11
Speaker 1: I love you, Jen Fessler. Anyway. I needed this today. Oh, good. Okay.
26:16
Speaker 1: So now we're at lunch.
26:18
Speaker 2: Yes.
26:19
Speaker 1: We've been on the yacht and now we're at lunch.
26:22
Speaker 1: And Sonia is mad.
26:28
Speaker 2: Yes, she is.
26:28
Speaker 1: And so is Luann. So Luann is like, you're telling
26:31
Speaker 1: me that, you know, I steal all your boyfriends. Tom
26:34
Speaker 1: didn't want to marry me. You know, you're, and she's, well,
26:38
Speaker 1: I mean, Sonia was Tom's girlfriend for a very, very
26:40
Speaker 1: long time.
26:41
Speaker 2: So, wow. That was swept way under the rug. I
26:45
Speaker 2: did not realize that.
26:46
Speaker 1: I did not either.
26:46
Speaker 3: Unless I was not that keyed in at that time
26:49
Speaker 3: to New York, but I didn't realize that they were
26:51
Speaker 3: a serious thing. And obviously I would think that Sonia
26:54
Speaker 3: will be harboring a bit of a grudge.
26:56
Speaker 2: Right. Right. Of course.
26:57
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine if a guy that you've been sleeping
27:00
Speaker 1: with or whatever you've been doing with for X amount
27:02
Speaker 1: of years, and all of a sudden he meets your
27:04
Speaker 1: friend and they get married. I mean, I would be like,
27:06
Speaker 1: I'd be so jealous. So. You know, Sonia and Luann are, like,
27:20
Speaker 1: literally fighting about, like, who knew Tom first and who
27:24
Speaker 1: was more in love with him or all this stuff.
27:26
Speaker 1: They're not even together.
27:27
Speaker 2: I mean, Tom who?
27:28
Speaker 1: Right?
27:29
Speaker 2: I mean, but.
27:31
Speaker 1: He is not my favorite.
27:32
Speaker 3: I think, well, I don't think he's anyone's favorite. But
27:35
Speaker 3: I also think that it was, it's easy for Sonia
27:39
Speaker 3: to go back. Like, so now here's Luann saying you
27:41
Speaker 3: are all over my man in an inappropriate way. Right.
27:44
Speaker 2: Which clearly. She was.
27:46
Speaker 1: Right.
27:47
Speaker 2: Okay.
27:47
Speaker 1: But she is like that.
27:48
Speaker 2: I know.
27:49
Speaker 1: She's just a playful puppy. She just is like, and
27:54
Speaker 1: then she walks away. I mean, she's just like that.
27:56
Speaker 2: I agree. I know that she is.
27:57
Speaker 3: But, you know, this is, for whatever reason, this time
28:00
Speaker 3: it got under Luann's skin.
28:02
Speaker 1: Yes.
28:03
Speaker 2: She's very into this guy.
28:04
Speaker 1: Yes.
28:05
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. And she didn't like it. And it
28:08
Speaker 3: was like, listen, Ramona was all over him in a
28:13
Speaker 3: very innocent.
28:14
Speaker 2: Way, I have to say.
28:15
Speaker 3: Right. dancing, hugging, you know, like, like grabbing his ass
28:21
Speaker 3: and pulling up his shirt and all of that does
28:24
Speaker 3: feel like maybe there's a line being crossed. But I
28:28
Speaker 3: think that probably Sonia's, I mean, she hopped right into, well,
28:34
Speaker 3: you must know you're a cheater. Like it went from zero,
28:37
Speaker 3: but let's say it went from about three to a
28:39
Speaker 3: 10 quick.
28:40
Speaker 2: Right. Right.
28:41
Speaker 1: And she does that.
28:42
Speaker 3: Yeah.
28:43
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, she does do that.
28:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, she does do that. She's very playful and fun.
28:46
Speaker 1: And then if she doesn't like something, it's like, it
28:49
Speaker 1: just goes into like, right.
28:50
Speaker 2: Yes.
28:51
Speaker 3: But I mean, I guess maybe she is still harboring
28:53
Speaker 3: that resentment. Like, don't come at me for getting on
28:56
Speaker 3: your guy when you basically stole mine. So, you know,
29:00
Speaker 3: that could be still going on.
29:02
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that I noticed filming
29:04
Speaker 1: is that Because I haven't filmed with Sonia since Ultimate.
29:09
Speaker 1: And before that, it was almost 10 years. And I've
29:11
Speaker 1: done a lot of other things and been on other shows.
29:13
Speaker 1: But I hadn't filmed with them. And what I see
29:18
Speaker 1: and I hear is that they have a lot of
29:22
Speaker 1: such pent-up resentment. And they just want to be heard.
29:26
Speaker 1: They just want their stories to be heard. So I literally...
29:30
Speaker 1: I'm sitting with them just like, tell me, tell me
29:32
Speaker 1: what happened. yeah and nobody has had that opportunity like
29:36
Speaker 1: whether it's all the women.
29:38
Speaker 2: Are regardless of avery's best efforts.
29:40
Speaker 1: No no and and sonia really opens up with me
29:43
Speaker 1: and she starts to trust me because i'm actually genuinely
29:46
Speaker 1: listening to what she's saying and i'm not waiting for
29:49
Speaker 1: my like you know line right that's gonna be like
29:53
Speaker 1: all the fans are gonna be like you know having
29:56
Speaker 1: fun with i'm genuinely listening and And it makes her
29:59
Speaker 1: feel safe.
30:00
Speaker 2: That's what she said, literally, right?
30:02
Speaker 1: I mean, it's unbelievable.
30:03
Speaker 3: Yeah.
30:03
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
30:04
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I think that- And.
30:06
Speaker 1: Our relationship went from like, I hadn't seen her, so
30:08
Speaker 1: it was like lukewarm to like, you know, bathtub water.
30:13
Speaker 3: You know, if I'm, just personally, if I'm choosing one
30:18
Speaker 3: woman on the cast besides Kelly Ben Simone, I feel
30:22
Speaker 3: like I would probably, believe it or not, trust and
30:27
Speaker 3: confide in Sonia. And I know she can be a
30:30
Speaker 3: loose cannon, but I, I, for whatever reason feel like
30:34
Speaker 3: there is something very, um, vulnerable, compassionate, and I don't
30:41
Speaker 3: feel like she's out to get anyone, which I do
30:45
Speaker 3: sometimes feel from a couple of the other women who
30:48
Speaker 3: will remain nameless for now.
30:50
Speaker 1: For now. I agree with you. I think that, I mean,
30:52
Speaker 1: I live with her. You're In B, so this is A,
30:57
Speaker 1: we're in Palm Beach, and then we go to B,
30:59
Speaker 1: we're in the Hamptons. And you're going to see, because
31:01
Speaker 1: we live together, and you're going to see how fun
31:03
Speaker 1: and playful, but how thoughtful.
31:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe, yeah.
31:06
Speaker 1: She's so thoughtful. Right. And she is, talk about a
31:09
Speaker 1: girl's girl, and that's what you're saying. She is the
31:12
Speaker 1: quintessential girl's girl. If somebody says something that she doesn't like,
31:16
Speaker 1: she will really, really support you.
31:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I feel it.
31:21
Speaker 1: And I feel, and I think that Luann is kind
31:23
Speaker 1: of like, you're not drinking. You're all over my man.
31:26
Speaker 1: What is going on? And then you're telling, you're talking about.
31:29
Speaker 3: It just keeps going back to, you're not drinking. Like, okay,
31:33
Speaker 3: I don't get it.
31:34
Speaker 2: Like, what's your point? So you are drinking, you're sneaking it.
31:37
Speaker 3: Why are we trying to, you know, I don't get
31:40
Speaker 3: why we're trying to sort of, trap her here into
31:43
Speaker 3: admitting something.
31:44
Speaker 2: Who gives a shit?
31:45
Speaker 3: Not who gives a shit, but the bigger issue is
31:47
Speaker 3: you have your hands up my man's shirt.
31:49
Speaker 2: I don't like it. Right. Don't do that again.
31:51
Speaker 1: Right.
31:51
Speaker 2: Right.
31:52
Speaker 1: But they also have this weird competition. Yeah. Because.
31:55
Speaker 2: Over men.
31:57
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't.
31:58
Speaker 2: Back to Tom, maybe?
31:59
Speaker 1: They have this weird competition. I think they've dated the
32:02
Speaker 1: same men, whether it was like Harry, Tom. Oh, right, right, right, right, right.
32:05
Speaker 2: Harry.
32:05
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's others. Yeah. But it's very, it's competitive.
32:09
Speaker 1: And it's just, I'm like, it's like watching like a
32:11
Speaker 1: ping pong. I'm like, what is going on here?
32:12
Speaker 2: The good news is it's over. I mean, Luann now
32:14
Speaker 2: has this dream boat.
32:16
Speaker 3: Right.
32:16
Speaker 2: And let's keep it moving.
32:19
Speaker 1: And I think that's hard for Sonya too. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah.
32:22
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah.
32:23
Speaker 2: Yeah. I could see that.
32:24
Speaker 1: I mean, she wants to get married. She wants to
32:25
Speaker 1: find a man. She wants to have a new life,
32:27
Speaker 1: you know?
32:28
Speaker 3: She doesn't act in a way, at least on the show,
32:32
Speaker 3: that feels serious like that, at least not yet. Right now,
32:35
Speaker 3: she feels like she is exactly what she describes out
32:39
Speaker 3: for food, sleep, and dick.
32:41
Speaker 2: What did she say? What did she say? I just
32:45
Speaker 2: know husband was not part of that equation.
32:47
Speaker 1: Eat, sleep, dick.
32:48
Speaker 2: Eat, sleep, dick was not like eat, sleep, connect.
32:52
Speaker 3: Right.
32:52
Speaker 1: Eat, sleep, dick, dash, husband.
32:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not feeling that for her, which is fine. Listen, honey,
32:58
Speaker 2: just be happy as long as she's happy.
33:00
Speaker 1: Good.
33:01
Speaker 2: I admire it.
33:04
Speaker 1: Oh, my God. And so, you know, we've talked about,
33:07
Speaker 1: you know, Sonia. We've talked about, I think it's really
33:09
Speaker 1: about Sonia and Luann. Really, this whole... Deep-seated... Resentment. Resentment, competition.
33:16
Speaker 2: Right.
33:19
Speaker 1: And then I think at the very end, you see
33:21
Speaker 1: Sonia's like, you know, Kelly's a kiss ass because then
33:24
Speaker 1: it's just time to deflect on someone else. And if
33:27
Speaker 1: anyone that knows me knows I am definitely not a
33:29
Speaker 1: kiss ass. I'm polite. I'm well-mannered. I'm educated, but I
33:33
Speaker 1: am not a kiss ass. If I don't like something,
33:35
Speaker 1: you know it because you're done.
33:37
Speaker 3: Listen, I think in that moment, she felt very betrayed
33:40
Speaker 3: because she needed you to just be team Sonia.
33:44
Speaker 1: And I was trying to give Luann some color and
33:47
Speaker 1: just say, you know, this has been something that's worked.
33:49
Speaker 1: She would have been talking about, like, I wasn't like,
33:52
Speaker 1: Oh my God, tell me to tell you.
33:54
Speaker 2: No, it definitely was not like that.
33:55
Speaker 1: I was not doing that.
33:57
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah. And I wouldn't do that.
33:58
Speaker 3: Right.
33:58
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't do that.
34:00
Speaker 3: But it was like, um, it was more like, yeah, listen,
34:02
Speaker 3: she told me this yesterday. She can't, whatever it was,
34:05
Speaker 3: she caught you saying it.
34:07
Speaker 2: It was a bad moment. Your intentions were not real,
34:10
Speaker 2: but she didn't like it.
34:12
Speaker 3: No.
34:12
Speaker 2: And, You know what?
34:14
Speaker 3: I could understand where she was coming from because you're
34:16
Speaker 3: the one she trusts most in that situation. So she
34:19
Speaker 3: just wanted to see you say, you know, whatever you
34:23
Speaker 3: were going to say, team Sonia.
34:25
Speaker 1: Right. Exactly.
34:25
Speaker 2: So she was sensitive to it.
34:26
Speaker 1: Right.
34:27
Speaker 2: Yeah.
34:28
Speaker 1: Exactly. And I am team Sonia.
34:29
Speaker 2: I know you are.
34:30
Speaker 1: But I also am trying to give Luann like.
34:32
Speaker 2: Some perspective.
34:33
Speaker 3: Right.
34:33
Speaker 1: So she understands because Luann hasn't been around everyone. She's been.
34:35
Speaker 2: Right.
34:36
Speaker 1: You know, traveling the world.
34:37
Speaker 2: Right.
34:38
Speaker 1: So yes, team Sonia. Always team Sonia. Always team Sonia.
34:41
Speaker 2: You team everyone.
34:42
Speaker 1: I love that you are loving. Well, that's not true.
34:45
Speaker 1: I'm on your team until I'm off.
34:47
Speaker 2: Until you're not.
34:48
Speaker 1: And then it's like crickets.
34:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that.
34:51
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, don't bother me.
34:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a softie though.
34:53
Speaker 1: Not that soft. Okay.
34:55
Speaker 2: We'll see. It's only, we're only in episode two.
34:57
Speaker 1: We will see.
34:58
Speaker 2: We will see. And then you've been thrown in with
35:00
Speaker 2: the gladiators, so we will see, Kel.
35:02
Speaker 1: No. Okay. Jen, thank you so much. I love going
35:09
Speaker 1: through this with you.
35:10
Speaker 2: I love going through this with you.
35:12
Speaker 3: This is, has, I'm telling you, this is, the golden
35:15
Speaker 3: life has brought such a light to my life.
35:18
Speaker 2: It has. I'm like so excited.
35:20
Speaker 1: Finally, like the show.
35:21
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, and watching you guys, it's like, I
35:25
Speaker 3: know pretty much all of you, but I've been friends
35:29
Speaker 3: with you for many more years than you've even known me, right?
35:31
Speaker 3: I've been invested in this group of women for a long,
35:35
Speaker 3: long time waiting for this moment to come.
35:37
Speaker 2: And you guys are not disappointing.
35:39
Speaker 1: Oh my God. It's awesome. Wait, I appreciate that.
35:42
Speaker 2: It's so good.
35:42
Speaker 1: We love our Jen Fessler.
35:43
Speaker 2: Love you guys too.
35:44
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35:47
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35:50
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35:53
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35:58
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36:01
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