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Fauci’s Fiction w/ Dr. Michael J Schwartz |EP466 · The Big Mig Show

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  All men are. Created equal that they are
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  endowed by their Creator. With certain unalienable rights
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  by. Liberty.
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  If liberty means anything at all, it means right to tell
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  people what they do not want to hear.
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  Welcome back to the big big Show.
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  I'm your host Lance Miliaccio, of course with my Co host George
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  There today was kind of a light day for me.
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  So yesterday I was a little bit tired.
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  I apologize to everybody for that.
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  But yeah, Lance, you know what? I just heard my other ticket.
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  It is worth it. It's tricky because we thought
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  Yeah, You know, you guys know we have done lots of shows.
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  You know, Peter McCullough, Judy Mikovits, you know, Stella
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  Emanuel, There's so many people that we have had on for
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  interviews. We were some of the early people
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  that warned you about vaccines, got ourselves suspended in
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  multiple locations because of it 'cause we just provided the
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  truth and we had the experts on. Of course, that wasn't supposed
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  to be the science. And tonight is no different.
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  Like I said a minute ago, if we were broadcasting to YouTube,
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  they would be slamming the door on us, guaranteed, because they
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  would call to this medical disinformation.
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  Doctor Michael Schwartz joins us tonight.
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  Author, whistleblower, entrepreneur, researcher.
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  I actually, I don't want to point that out.
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  That's what AI said about him. AI picked those 4 words.
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  He uses some of them himself. But it was funny how they also
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  put up whistleblower. He's written two books and
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  everybody's got it on their mind.
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  These blanket pre emptive pardons that Biden crammed down
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  the American public's throats on his way out the door.
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  Nobody likes it. I don't know if these people are
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  safe or not. They think they are.
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  They're operating like they are. And Fauci for me, has been one
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  of the worst. I don't like his research he did
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  with AIDS. I don't like the research and
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  what he did. I don't like animal testing,
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  what he did to those vehicles. I've always said that if I had
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  an opportunity, I'd put a cage on Doctor Fauci's head and fill
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  it with sand flies and strap him down and let him deal with the
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  consequences of that. You know, our audience, they've
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  been well educated. I would say the majority of them
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  are unvaccinated. And the people that got
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  vaccinated maybe probably have some regrets.
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  Hopefully they didn't get the Pfizer vaccine.
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  So Doctor Schwartz, he hosts the popular podcast 2 Mics Live,
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  receives over 1,000,000 views per month, is the author of the
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  number one best selling book on Amazon, Fauci's fiction.
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  He's an entrepreneur since 93, holds a doctorate in business
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  administration and a desertion on the CARES Act, which is
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  great. He's he's it's archived in the
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  Library of Congress. Doctor Schwartz has owned
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  multiple medical clinics and is a consulting firm focused on
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  genetics and respiratory pathogens.
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  He currently serves as the laboratory director at Minister,
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  Inc Additionally, a former police officer, which is
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  interesting. I'm going to have to ask him how
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  he went from police officer to doctor.
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  I don't know if he studied why he was a police officer.
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  We'll have to find out the path he took because that's obviously
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  an interesting route. It's not what you would normally
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  expect to hear. We'll.
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  See, because I know in the area where he was a police officer,
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  they'd hire like summer police officer help because it gets so
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  crazy down there. I don't know.
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  All right, well, he also developed a course called the
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  Secrets of Body Language and Communication for various
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  organizations and government agencies.
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  I was teasing them backstage. I said, you know, I might have
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  taken your course because I took a lot of courses back when I was
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  a government contractor about ticks and tells behavioral, you
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  know, the way people operate in public because you're always
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  looking for, you know, danger close in those situations when
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  you're doing diplomatic security or facility staffing.
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  So it's one of those things. And of course, you want to make
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  sure that you know what people are up to do.
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  Let's bring them in here. There's no reason to leave
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  backstage. Just get him in here.
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  He's an expert. Welcome to the big, big show,
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  Doctor Schwartz. How you doing, Sir?
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  Good guys. Thanks.
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  That was a long intro. I didn't.
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  I never expect anybody to read all the whole bio, but yeah, I I
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  appreciate it. Well, you know, we, well, one of
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  the reasons we like to really give people some of the
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  background on a show cause whether they've read your book
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  or not, and they should have, hopefully, hopefully this is on
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  their list of books. If they haven't read it, they
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  should head over to Amazon and buy it.
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  But just like you said a little while ago, you know, the path
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  that gets people to where they're at.
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  I was a different guy years ago. I, I really was less, you know,
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  I think I was probably a more selfish person.
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  I was more concerned about what was good for me, wasn't
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  concerned about what my behavior, actions led to those
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  around me or what I was involved in.
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  It changes, you know, your life changes.
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  You made a big change to go from a police officer and I don't so
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  explain that to me. Were you already a doctor?
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  No. Decided to become a police
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  officer or vice versa. I started out, I mean, I got
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  it's, you know, my career has been around the block.
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  I started out as an entrepreneur.
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  I was homeless when I was 15. I moved out when I was 15 and I
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  started my first company when I was 17.
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  So I've been an entrepreneur for the, the better part of my life.
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  I got into business for a long time.
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  I, I, I enjoyed it. Long story is I lost a huge
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  contract, a government contract for my my first company and I
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  just got burned out. I said I wanted to do something
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  different. At that time, I had got my
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  pilot's license. I had been an auxiliary officer
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  in Toms River, NJ. And one of my friends said to
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  me, you like to, in the auxiliary thing, why don't you
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  become a cop? That was kind of a midlife
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  crisis for me. So I, I got hired by Seaside
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  Heights, went to the police Academy and next thing you know,
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  I'm, I'm standing there in 4° weather and parking lot day and
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  I'm thinking in my head, what did I do?
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  But you know, when I make a commitment, I go forward with
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  it. So I, I, I finished the Academy,
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  I worked as the police officer for a while, but I immediately
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  got back into business when I was in the Academy because I
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  think I realized I, I, I career wise, I didn't want to do that
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  my entire life, but what a great education.
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  You know, I've got, you just keep accumulating things over
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  life, right? And then the, the direction
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  might change. But you're right.
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  All those things in life make you, you know, a unique person
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  and I, I wouldn't change a thing.
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  You know, it, it was there an, and I always ask people this
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  because you, I'm always curious, you know, because George and I,
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  we, we get a, a wide variety of guests on the show.
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  We've had Cash Patel and General Michael Flynn and Rodger Stone
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  and we're, we're lucky, we're fortunate a lot of those people
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  are friends of ours. We're tied into the Trump
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  administration, you know, with a lot of them.
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  Was there a moment? Because clearly the route you
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  took at some point was there an epiphany moment before you?
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  You started to write these books and thought, OK, enough of this
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  bullshit. I cannot sit on the sideline
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  with what I know and and allow this to continue.
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  Well, to give you a little background, so my medical clinic
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  in New Jersey was the first clinic to ever do a COVID test
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  in the state of New Jersey. We had done something for a very
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  long time. I always like to say my patients
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  knew what COVID swabs were long before the public did because we
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  had done something innovative. It's it's called a respiratory
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  pathogen panel. You write it in my bio.
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  It's something that we would always teach to other doctors.
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  But when you were sick, if you had come to us ten years ago, we
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  would. And it goes off to the lab.
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  Why? Because we practice good
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  medicine. Most doctors won't do that type
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  of testing. They like to guess at what they
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  do. And we learned a lot during
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  COVID. We could talk about that a bit.
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  But we had always done respiratory pathogen panels.
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  And one of the labs that I work with was one of the 1st 30 in
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  the nation to get FDA approval to do testing.
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  So we kind of fell into it by happenstance.
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  So as the first person to do testing in New Jersey, we were
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  alone on an island. We were gathering all this data
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  and I was kind of looking at it a little bit differently in my
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  analytical mind. And, and, and there's, we can
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  get into that as well. We're the only ones on the, in
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  the country. We actually have the largest
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  amount of horizontal data on COVID in the entire country.
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  And, and that's different than COVID looking at it as a
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  negative or positive, because COVID isn't just negative or
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  positive. It's either negative or positive
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  with caveats. And that's very important.
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  And when you look at the data differently, like we did, it
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  uncovers a lot. But in the 1st, I don't know,
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  30-60 days, we had enough data to tell everybody like this is
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  not what you're seeing on TVI had 19,000 patients.
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  We didn't lose 1. We did 44,000 tests in multiple
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  states at a clinic in Key West at the time as well.
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  And, and, and what the data tells us was completely
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  different than what you saw on TV.
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  But we knew that so early on that we were trying to tell guys
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  like you, we were trying to tell the media, we were trying to
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  tell government officials, but we kept getting swept away.
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  This the narrative overtook all of the actual data that we were
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  seeing on the ground. So let me ask you this.
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  When you talk about the data, was that the data set that you
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  guys had created through your 19,000 patients or did you also
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  get access to data from other parts of the country with maybe
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  other friends of yours or clinics?
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  Were you able to integrate other data sets into those sets?
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  So yes and no. The data that we have is
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  proprietary. We did it in a in a vacuum,
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  right? Because we were so busy at the
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  time treating patients, we weren't really paying attention
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  to any of the noise because a lot of the stuff you'd hear on
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  television from the talking heads just didn't make sense.
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  So what we did, we did it in a in a vacuum.
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  Eventually we did start consulting and talking to other
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  clinics and kind of seeing what they were seeing mostly when the
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  shots were coming out. You know, we we compare notes,
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  you know, what do you see? And that's what you do.
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  I mean, you're talking to other people, but most people weren't
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  doing what we were doing. When I say we were alone on an
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  island for the first, I don't know, six months to a year that
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  that the media would take 12 months to 1516, eighteen months
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  to catch up to what we were saying where our patients are
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  ready. So you'd ask me about the book
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  everything in my first book in Fouch use fiction.
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  This is the conversation I had with every single patient
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  everyday. Hold that a couple more time,
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  doctors for the audience. I want to make sure they see
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  that. Go ahead.
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  Yeah. Yeah, most people haven't heard
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  of this because they got it did get number one on a couple
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  categories. But the censorship that's going
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  on, I write about that in my new book, Vaccine Fiction.
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  There's a ton of it. And when people don't do this
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  for a living, you know, you guys get it because you do a show and
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  you get banned and you see it in action.
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  But when you tell people about censorship and shadow banning,
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  they usually get this glazed look on their face because they
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  just don't understand it. From your perspective, this
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  book, I had a fight to get this book out and I still do.
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  Whatever the government doesn't want you to know about COVID is,
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  is right here in Fauci's fiction.
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  It's the story. It's the anecdotal stories of
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  our patients. It's the real data, what we were
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  seeing on the ground from doing all that test and putting it
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  into perspective, which again, like I said, tells a very
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  different story. It's not about Fauci.
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  That's the common misconception. They think it's a hit piece.
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  I think I mentioned him three times in the book, but he gets
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  the cover for all the the fallacies that were told from
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  that podium, whether it was him or Doctor Burks or Wolinski at
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  the CDC, everybody associates COVID with Fauci, so he gets the
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  cover for that. You know.
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  And rightfully so. You know, there's still.
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  Yeah, hold on, they're still suppressing us if we talk on
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  other platforms with all the medical information, all the all
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  the studies shown, you know, the negative effects of COVID and
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  the vaccine. They still want to ban you and
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  and suppress us because TikTok. I just, my count just got naked
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  the other day. Again, this is twice in like 2
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  weeks, but I got it back. But they're fighting for free
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  speech in the Supreme Court and they don't believe in it.
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  Same thing with like YouTube and there's still other places.
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  But it's like, what do we have to do for that, for these people
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  to believe? The medical industrial complex
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  is extremely sophisticated and well funded.
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  And when you look at you can call it alt media, you know, you
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  know, obviously a lot of people are starting to call it new
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  media. But when you look at mainstream
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  media and you look at the funding sources, whether it be
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  the Pfizer's or the Johnsons and Johnsons and you look at the
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  amount of capital that they pump into media sources.
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  And then you look at the lobbyists and you look at the
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  directives of what the course that I believe.
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  And I've always thought it that part of the election theft
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  required this lockdown. It required fear mongering.
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  It's no really different than what they did to the feds
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  direction, you know, J Sixers and the way they went after him
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  because that that was a created event, right?
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  The Leslie, the munitions, they use it to agitate and incite the
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  crowd. But this is really interesting
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  that you know, that when we look at medical, I don't think
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  anybody, all of us never believed that there was some.
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  And you know, all I can say is it seems like a nefarious plot
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  to me. It's really sophisticated what
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  they do and the way that they, you know, of course, treat the
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  symptoms and don't treat the disease.
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  As an example, the bad labeling that the horse paste got, you
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  know, ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine in the way
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  that was treated. They don't want to talk about
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  the Nobel Prize. They don't want to talk about
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  how parasites seem to be driving a predominant amount of the
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  cancers in the United States. Of course, they've got to hide
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  that because that doesn't go along with, hey, let's just give
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  them some pills. Let's have them come in and get
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  some chemo. We'll do this, we'll do that.
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  We, we joke around, we've had some people that were experts.
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  They talk about the benzene sheeting and some of the other
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  things that are inside of these vaccines for the life.
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  I mean, nobody can come up with a real reason of why they should
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  be in there. And of course, R.E.M.
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  Destavier on this show, we call it Run Death is Near.
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  And George actually had a cousin that passed away because he
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  couldn't get the family to listen to him in New Jersey.
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  And they made a lot of bad decisions.
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  And, and one of them was not trying to get, you know,
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  ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine or the rest of it.
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  I think he got in the hospital. Did they put him on a
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  ventilator? George, am I right about that?
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  No. Problem his wife is a vegan so
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  she don't believe in any meds so he didn't take anything.
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  His breathing got worse end up going to the hospital so they
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  gave him run I can we call run death is near put him on a vent.
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  I don't know, like 45 days later.
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  It was like I watched him take his last breath, like from the
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  machines and stuff. I mean, he was oozing blood from
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  his fingernail. It was horrible, like the shit
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  that did. Let me ask you this, Doctor
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  Schwartz, before we dive in, I and I, I know you, I already
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  probably know the answer to this.
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  When you started to expose the truth and you started bringing
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  these data sets in and say, look, I've got data on 10,000
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  patients, Clearly this is not what everybody's seeing.
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  Did you immediately feel yourself getting attacked?
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  Because I'm surprised you're able to maintain your medical
• 17:49
  license because so many people they went after, like Doctor
• 17:52
  Stella Emmanuel, you know, the work she did, they went after
• 17:54
  her viciously. Peter McCullough, Doctor Malone,
• 17:58
  another friend of ours, went after him viciously.
• 18:00
  Did you have the same thing happen to you?
• 18:01
  Well, you. Got to remember I don't have a
• 18:03
  medical license. I'm a research doctor.
• 18:05
  They can't pull my I can't pull a medical license when you don't
• 18:08
  have one. But I do manage medical staff,
• 18:10
  so I'm watching what they're doing.
• 18:11
  We came up with protocols pretty early.
• 18:13
  And yes, we were, we were hounded right from the start.
• 18:15
  And remember, I managed medical staff.
• 18:17
  So they're out there doing the work on looking at it.
• 18:19
  You know, I'm, I'm hands on the, you know, you know, boots on the
• 18:21
  ground, I'm hands in every day. We're looking at all this stuff.
• 18:24
  We're talking to patients for recording symptomology.
• 18:27
  We're looking at CT. That what I find interesting
• 18:30
  guys, is that I'll have these conversations and I've done
• 18:32
  hundreds of shows and, you know, podcasts and national TV.
• 18:36
  Most people, it's funny, most people I find still don't know
• 18:39
  the basics on COVID. We could have these kind of
• 18:42
  everybody goes down a different rabbit hole.
• 18:44
  But people, I always tell people they're kind of stuck on chapter
• 18:47
  1 in my book when I'm already at the end of two books and, you
• 18:50
  know, 28 total chapters. And I'll, I'll go on interviews
• 18:53
  and people will ask me questions and I realize they still don't
• 18:56
  know. This is what it gets.
• 18:57
  It gets on my nerves. It's if Fauci had come out right
• 19:01
  early on in those press briefings and just told
• 19:03
  everybody the basic basics, how viruses mutate, the difference
• 19:06
  between isolation and quarantine.
• 19:08
  And I say that in my book. I talk about it because language
• 19:10
  is important. Everybody goes down a rabbit
• 19:13
  hole. You know, we get it.
• 19:13
  We can go down so many different levels.
• 19:15
  You guys brought up ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine.
• 19:17
  Truth is, we never used it. The only treatments we ever used
• 19:20
  in our office, vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc and
• 19:22
  electrolytes. That's it.
• 19:24
  Then we would prone patients if they were having breathing
• 19:26
  issues, if they had a coinfection, we would treat it
• 19:29
  with an antibiotic. But it's important to know if
• 19:31
  you have a coinfection. See, when I tell you COVID is
• 19:33
  very different than what you you hear on TV, even five years into
• 19:37
  this, I'll ask host and I'll say, do you know the difference
• 19:39
  between isolation and quarantine?
• 19:41
  I get looked at with this glazed look over my head and I said, it
• 19:43
  goes back to it goes back to language.
• 19:46
  You know, I'll still call people and tell them they're positive
• 19:48
  and they say to me, do I need to quarantine?
• 19:51
  And I get very mad. I go, no, I go, you need to
• 19:53
  isolate. I go the astronauts quarantine
• 19:55
  when they got back from the moon in case they were exposed to
• 19:58
  something. You're you're positive with
• 19:59
  something, you need to isolate. Language is so important and we
• 20:03
  talk about these things. In, in like 7 different
• 20:05
  languages. You know, COVID is not, I
• 20:07
  mentioned before COVID is not just negative or positive,
• 20:09
  right? I'm going to explain a little
• 20:10
  bit about COVID. We got to get, there's 27
• 20:13
  proteins inside the, the capsicum inside the envelope of
• 20:16
  COVID and what you're getting, you talk about natural immunity.
• 20:19
  When you get COVID naturally, you're building what's called
• 20:21
  B&T lymphocytes. That's your natural immunity to
• 20:24
  COVID. What mutates is the spike
• 20:26
  protein. It's like making a copy of a
• 20:28
  copy of a copy of a copy. Eventually those copies burnout
• 20:31
  and they become unrecognizable. Sometimes they develop this
• 20:34
  weird shape on the outside. That's the spike protein
• 20:37
  mutation that you're going to get sick from the next time you
• 20:40
  get COVID and you have a reaction or at least memory
• 20:42
  cells to the inside or the whole of that virus.
• 20:45
  People still don't understand that.
• 20:47
  They don't understand the difference between testing.
• 20:49
  I have people come in my office and tell me they were positive
• 20:52
  with COVID. I say, how do you know they go
• 20:53
  rapid test? I wanna, I laughed in their
• 20:55
  face. Of course I don't want to do
• 20:57
  that. I want to be nice to our
• 20:58
  patients. But you cannot diagnose COVID.
• 21:01
  They rapid test. There's there's differences in
• 21:03
  that. We don't wear masks in our
• 21:04
  office. The first book goes through all
• 21:06
  of this to explain COVID to people because they really have
• 21:10
  to get a grasp on what we went through.
• 21:12
  And again, it's not it's not outing Fauci.
• 21:14
  It's not outing the government. But what it does is it puts the
• 21:17
  data into perspective so that when you look at what was done
• 21:21
  and you realize that they took this narrative and ran with it.
• 21:24
  There was no need for lockdown, suicide rates going up, kids to
• 21:27
  be out of school. There is no need for these
• 21:29
  shots. I won't call them vaccinated
• 21:31
  scenes because when you do to somebody who's 7080 or 90 years
• 21:34
  old, they think lifetime immunity, inoculation, you get
• 21:37
  120 days at best, an antibody response from these shots.
• 21:42
  That's not doing anybody any good.
• 21:44
  They actually make it worse for you in the long run.
• 21:46
  So look, we can go down a million different roads and you
• 21:49
  got to kind of pick a lane to figure it out.
• 21:52
  The problem though, is that most people when it comes to COVID
• 21:55
  have no clue. Well, let's do that.
• 21:59
  Let's talk about that just for a minute, So.
• 22:01
  Switch the camera to a. Different Oh, I'm sorry, I
• 22:03
  didn't mean to do that. I meant to go to the other shot
• 22:06
  here apologize. So let me ask you this doc, you
• 22:08
  know, can you walk us through you?
• 22:10
  You obviously are compiling and analyzing this a vast amount of
• 22:13
  data and and that you've included that in both books.
• 22:16
  There had to be what were the biggest challenges to give it
• 22:18
  get some kind of uniformity that actually painted the true
• 22:21
  picture of what was going on. Let's start.
• 22:23
  With that, I mean, it's there, you know, the problem is getting
• 22:26
  people to listen. The problem is, you know, you
• 22:28
  have people on the left who automatically think that
• 22:30
  anything, anytime we say anything on COVID, you know,
• 22:32
  it's, it's got to be some, you know, fallacy.
• 22:35
  And then you got people on the right on our side of the aisle
• 22:37
  who will, who will pick a rabbit hole or they'll get a
• 22:40
  confirmation bias. That's the worst thing that I
• 22:42
  see when I'm trying to explain the data on COVID to somebody.
• 22:46
  They will, they will have a confirmation bias that they've
• 22:49
  discounted everything that you said now.
• 22:50
  So it's really tough. We, I, I found that we, we got
• 22:53
  so convoluted in the minutiae with this over the last five
• 22:57
  years. I can't believe it's been over
• 22:59
  five years now that people don't know what to believe anymore.
• 23:02
  Now, if they understood how testing works and they
• 23:04
  understood, you know, what a virus is, how it mutates, they
• 23:07
  understood that there's other pathogens.
• 23:08
  What we found in the data, I'll give you a little bit of the
• 23:10
  data, 19,000 patients, 44,000 tests.
• 23:14
  We did not lose 1 patient, OK? I only had four go to the
• 23:17
  hospital. So, and you got to remember
• 23:18
  these things happened in segments, right?
• 23:20
  It wasn't all at one time. So if you had come to me a year
• 23:23
  later when the shots came out and you said, Mike, do I need
• 23:25
  this shot answer was always a laughable no.
• 23:28
  Like no, I haven't lost anybody. Everybody's recovering in two to
• 23:31
  three days. We got so good at doing COVID
• 23:33
  testing and seeing patients that I could look at a family of
• 23:36
  three and tell you what the recovery time was going to be.
• 23:38
  I could look at the the husband who was in his mid 40s, a little
• 23:41
  bit overweight and say, you're going to be about a week.
• 23:43
  Look at the wife who was in a little better shape and say
• 23:45
  you're going to be about 3 days and look at the 19 year old son
• 23:48
  and say, you're going to be out running a mile tomorrow.
• 23:49
  We got so good at looking at this and seeing it every day
• 23:52
  because what you're doing is a thematic approach every day,
• 23:55
  right? I still have people who will
• 23:56
  come to me and say, you know, my wife had it really bad, but I
• 23:59
  never got it. And I'll say, yes, she did.
• 24:01
  And they'll say, no, I didn't. I'll say, yeah, I'll tell you.
• 24:03
  And when I did a study of 441 home visits, what we found that
• 24:07
  when someone had it in the house, it was symptomatic.
• 24:10
  When we tested everybody in the house, 100% of the time,
• 24:14
  everybody in the household had it, but only about 85 to 90% of
• 24:18
  the time they would develop classic symptomology.
• 24:20
  So what does that tell you? It actually begged the question
• 24:23
  at one point when I was doing this to my immunologist and I
• 24:26
  said to to Doctor Mishra, I said, I wonder how many
• 24:29
  asymptomatic flus are walking around in the world?
• 24:32
  Because when you don't realize we've never done this amount of
• 24:34
  vast testing, right? All of a sudden at one time
• 24:38
  everybody was allowed to test under the CARES Act.
• 24:40
  So you'd have people coming in off the street sick,
• 24:42
  asymptomatic. My perspective.
• 24:44
  Also, you got to remember I was doing COPS departments, school
• 24:47
  districts, nursing homes, assisted livings every week.
• 24:50
  So a lot of times I would test the same 100 cops every
• 24:52
  Wednesday for three straight years.
• 24:54
  I have horizontal data, but not only do I know if they were
• 24:57
  negative or positive, I have their CT value.
• 24:59
  That's their viral load. I have if they had a coinfection
• 25:02
  because the sickest of the sick, if you came in symptomatic, we
• 25:06
  would run a panel on you and guess what we found?
• 25:08
  We found that most of the time if you had classic symptoms, you
• 25:12
  also had a coinfection. Usually it was staph.
• 25:14
  I'll give you a perspective. I had a guy a couple couple
• 25:17
  years ago who came in sick. We tested him with the panel.
• 25:20
  He came back positive for COVID, staph, H flu, and RSV all the
• 25:24
  same time. Now imagine the perspective.
• 25:26
  Imagine if he went to Walgreens with a rapid test and came back
• 25:29
  and said, Oh my God, COVID is the worst thing in the world.
• 25:31
  No, he was sick from the RSV, the H flu and the staph, which
• 25:35
  we could treat the H flu and the staph because those are both
• 25:39
  bacterial infections. So you have to know what you're
• 25:40
  treating, What we learned during COVID, when you heard all this,
• 25:43
  these numbers come in COVID, this COVID positive COVID.
• 25:46
  I can't tell you from somebody's myopic view.
• 25:49
  When they come to me and tell me their perspective on COVID and
• 25:53
  they say, I had this and I go, how do you know?
• 25:55
  And they tell me I don't know what kind of test I had.
• 25:57
  I said, what's your CT value? They don't know.
• 25:59
  Did you have a Co infection? The answer is always, I don't
• 26:02
  know. And I always tell that person,
• 26:03
  your data wouldn't have even made it into my data set.
• 26:06
  It would have skewed the numbers.
• 26:07
  We know all of this information on every single patient and more
• 26:11
  importantly, we called every patient every single night,
• 26:15
  every positive we called and recorded.
• 26:17
  There's symptomology. Nobody else in the country has
• 26:20
  that. So when you put COVID together
• 26:22
  in it's real perspective from the 30,000 foot view, it teaches
• 26:26
  you a lot. Now look, we didn't know this
• 26:28
  when we started recording the data.
• 26:30
  I just came up with this is how we're going to look at it
• 26:32
  because I knew that was important to understand it from
• 26:35
  the 30,000 foot view. So within a week, 2 weeks, a
• 26:38
  month, two months, we had enough data to say, hey, these
• 26:40
  lockdowns aren't necessary. This is ridiculous.
• 26:43
  And yes, every time we told somebody what we were seeing in
• 26:45
  our own office, we got looked at as if we had four heads.
• 26:49
  And they would always say to me, why are you the only person
• 26:51
  talking about this? And I say, I there's a lot of us
• 26:54
  out there, but we're getting shadow, shadow band and
• 26:55
  censored. You know it's.
• 26:57
  Clear in Fauci's fiction, you delved into a bunch of what I
• 27:00
  would call the real science, right?
• 27:01
  We've heard all things about real science online.
• 27:04
  Mainstream media spun it what? What are the most striking
• 27:07
  differences between the findings you came up from your data sets
• 27:11
  and the information you got in real, obviously real world
• 27:14
  consequences and real world side effects compared to the
• 27:17
  information that was provided by the government?
• 27:19
  What would you think in the mainstream media?
• 27:21
  Of course, what do you think the biggest differences were side by
• 27:25
  side in the top, maybe 3 or 4. It was it you?
• 27:28
  You have to go back five years and and remember that it was
• 27:30
  done in a, in a, you know, in a linear time frame, right,
• 27:33
  Because it was every day you'd watch TV and you want to jump
• 27:37
  through the television. I read about in the book where
• 27:39
  there's one doctor on Fox. I won't mention her name.
• 27:41
  I don't want to embarrass her, but he used to, you know, you'd
• 27:43
  watch these talking heads over the years and some of you'd have
• 27:45
  respect for there was one Doctor Who was out there saying, you
• 27:48
  know, there's only 5000 breakthrough cases in the world
• 27:52
  right now. People should run out and get
• 27:53
  these shots. It's not that bad.
• 27:55
  Meanwhile, I had five in my office that day.
• 27:57
  The urgent care had three. So I had eight right in Key West
• 27:59
  at the time that she's, you know, saying this on the on, on
• 28:02
  air or on national TV. And I'm going to jump through
• 28:04
  the the you know, my her through my car radio.
• 28:07
  I want to jump through and round your neck.
• 28:08
  I'm going you're you're giving people misinformation.
• 28:10
  But that was every day. You know, you could go back to
• 28:13
  the death counts on CNN and MSNBC.
• 28:15
  Again, we went didn't have people dying.
• 28:17
  You know, to to to go with to George was saying, and you know,
• 28:20
  I I sympathize and empathize with your family member because
• 28:23
  I saw this people were dying early from COVID for two
• 28:26
  reasons. One, it was novel and, and, and
• 28:28
  people didn't have that B&T lymphocyte response right off
• 28:31
  the bat. So the first time you got it,
• 28:33
  you're responding to all of the proteins inside COVID.
• 28:36
  That's another conversation to go down with Fauci and Wuhan.
• 28:39
  And was it released nefariously and did they engineer this thing
• 28:42
  right? There's a whole conversation
• 28:43
  there. But when you got it initially,
• 28:45
  you probably got the sickest because you're responding to all
• 28:48
  the proteins. Second reason why people died
• 28:50
  early on was we didn't know how to treat it.
• 28:52
  We were putting people on vents too early.
• 28:54
  We were using flu protocol, which flared COVID up.
• 28:57
  Within in a couple months, we realized better ways of treating
• 29:01
  this thing. We weren't losing patients, but
• 29:03
  at the same time it was simple stuff, Vitamin C, vitamin D,
• 29:06
  zinc, pruning people that's turning them on their stomach to
• 29:08
  let their lungs drain so they could breathe.
• 29:10
  We were putting people on their backs and on vents.
• 29:13
  Wrong way to treat somebody with a respiratory, but that's the
• 29:16
  protocol. When you have somebody who's
• 29:17
  going into, you know, pneumonia or when you have somebody whose
• 29:20
  pulse ox is below like 74, that's the old protocol.
• 29:24
  We've learned new ways to treat patients, but it's also
• 29:26
  important to know exactly that they have.
• 29:28
  We weren't doing that. We were doing that in our
• 29:30
  office. I knew exactly what that patient
• 29:32
  had. I knew exactly what we were
• 29:34
  treating. So if you had a Co infection,
• 29:36
  bacterial on top of the of COVID, we were also treating
• 29:40
  that Co infection with an antibiotic.
• 29:42
  But it's important to know most people were misdiagnosed during
• 29:45
  COVID. They have no, if you had COVID
• 29:47
  on a rapid test, you have no idea what you have.
• 29:49
  A rapid test can come back positive for any coronavirus.
• 29:52
  There are 7 we test for in the office.
• 29:54
  So it's it's a blatant fallacy to to run out and get a a rapid
• 29:58
  test and think you know what you're talking about.
• 29:59
  Does a rapid test does that. Include PCR or is that the the
• 30:03
  nasal I want to put? Up a test results I want the the
• 30:06
  doc to look at it. I don't know if can you read
• 30:08
  that if you need me to read it to you current result and.
• 30:11
  Flag previous result and date. What it is showing here, it's a
• 30:15
  it's a COVID test. Antibody test.
• 30:19
  So antibody, all right, this is an antibody test, but it doesn't
• 30:22
  charge. Is this your?
• 30:22
  Antibody test, yes. Every lab value, every lab is
• 30:28
  going to have different values. I can't see it right now, but
• 30:31
  every lab is going to have different values and, and
• 30:33
  antibody tests are different. I need to know if it's
• 30:35
  IGGIGMIGA. I, I didn't see that on there
• 30:39
  because that would tell me what, whether you had a current
• 30:42
  infection, you had a previous infection.
• 30:43
  It there's a lot of, we have, we did a lot of antibody testing in
• 30:46
  our office as well, which also tells another story.
• 30:50
  Well, I this was. I had, I had COVID.
• 30:52
  I didn't know I had COVID. I was like, you see me now?
• 30:54
  This is the way you see me. So he didn't have any.
• 30:59
  Symptoms, yeah, and his antibodies had gone through the
• 31:03
  roof and he'd been exposed to a lot of people that COVID 2300
• 31:05
  my. Antibodies were, yeah, but the
• 31:07
  lab values? Don't mean anything because
• 31:09
  every lab is, has different values.
• 31:10
  So you're, you know, you're looking at one boutique lab
• 31:12
  versus, you know, Quest LabCorp, everybody's values are a little
• 31:15
  bit slightly different than everybody else's values.
• 31:18
  So you got to kind of know what you're looking at, but you also
• 31:20
  need to know IG M or IGGIGAIGMIGA or IGGIGG would be
• 31:25
  indicative of a previous infection.
• 31:27
  IGA and Iigm would be indicative of a current infection.
• 31:30
  In other words, if I would do an antibody test on somebody, we
• 31:33
  did these for police departments and they would come back with
• 31:35
  IGMI would have to then do a PDCR test to confirm that they
• 31:39
  currently had COVID because IGA and IGN is indicative of a
• 31:42
  current. In fact, it's a lot of science
• 31:44
  stuff. When you put it all together, it
• 31:45
  makes sense. But when you have this on
• 31:48
  thousands of patients, it makes even more sense.
• 31:50
  And that's why I get so annoyed with it's amazing that the
• 31:53
  people that want to have a discussion on COVID that, like I
• 31:56
  said, they're still on page one of the book.
• 31:58
  And it's like, I really want to have the, the, the you want to
• 32:02
  talk about Fauci, You want to talk about nefarious intent,
• 32:05
  whether it comes to the shots, people need to get on the same
• 32:07
  wavelength. It's, it's, it's kind of crazy
• 32:10
  that like, you know, I think it's.
• 32:11
  Complicated though, right? Because you look at even.
• 32:14
  We're all media. We've had lots of sources and
• 32:16
  lots of discussions with people, but even you mentioned the PCR
• 32:19
  test. You know, there's lots of
• 32:20
  theories out there that the PCR tests were dangerous.
• 32:23
  I don't know if they really were.
• 32:24
  I don't know that anybody ever published, dated to prove they
• 32:27
  were or weren't. But there was lots of what I
• 32:29
  would call sort alleged sources that said that it was.
• 32:33
  You talk a lot about the 30,000 foot view and that's what's
• 32:35
  complicated for people because they want the real information.
• 32:39
  But let's face it, you know, one of the reasons, like I mentioned
• 32:42
  before we came on set, the CDC and Vera's information we just
• 32:46
  posted that we didn't even have these kind of discussions on
• 32:49
  YouTube and of course YouTube, that was it.
• 32:51
  That was the final suspension. We were done at the end of the
• 32:53
  day. That's the difficulty.
• 32:54
  What do you think people missed? A lot of people focused on, I
• 32:57
  think, isolated data points and headlines.
• 32:59
  What do you think one of the most important things they
• 33:01
  missed Doc the the. Most important is the rabbit
• 33:04
  hole that see that people seem to go down is this interview
• 33:07
  with Carrie Mullis on PCR. And they always want to discount
• 33:10
  it. So they'll they'll, they'll,
• 33:11
  they'll, they'll get that confirmation bias and then
• 33:14
  they'll discount everything. Fact is, PCR testing was used
• 33:17
  long before COVID existed. We used it for just about
• 33:20
  everything out there. If you have a reputable lab that
• 33:22
  is going to cycle 36 and you can see the data, What's important
• 33:26
  about the data is it's repeatable, right?
• 33:27
  Repeatable data will tell you the story.
• 33:29
  So in other words, the folks that tell you that PCR testing
• 33:32
  doesn't work and you can find anything at any level, if you
• 33:36
  gave me 100 patients in their hypothesis, you would find
• 33:39
  something on all 100 patients. That's just not simply how it
• 33:42
  works. When I test 100 cops and one of
• 33:44
  them is positive and 99 are negative, I could repeat that
• 33:47
  same data sequence the next day and I could repeat it on the
• 33:51
  third day where the 99 who were negative are still negative and
• 33:54
  the one who's positive is still positive.
• 33:56
  So when you have repeatable data and you see it every single day,
• 33:59
  you understand that PCR testing works very well.
• 34:02
  Now, most of the people that you found that have something
• 34:06
  because again, you don't test everybody at at flu season, You
• 34:09
  don't you don't test the whole of the world.
• 34:11
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  Wouldn't doubt it. Listen, that that just chews
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  I'm good with all either. So, so you finished the first
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  book and and, and you decided to write your newest book, Vaccine
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  fiction. What kind was was that always
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  part of the plan to do a two-part series?
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  Or was it because you felt like maybe people still didn't grasp
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  what you tried to present in the first book?
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  Or maybe there was just new information you felt like you
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  had to cover? Yeah, a couple of reasons I.
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  Mean mostly it was the new information like we it.
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  When I finished Fouchies fiction, we had some preliminary
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  data on the vaccines, but not enough.
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  I hate to call them vaccines on the shots to to give you a, you
• 40:56
  know, anecdotal stories of what we were seeing back from these
• 40:58
  patients who were walking in saying I got an issue now.
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  But now that we have real data. And I also wanted to expound on
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  that. So I interviewed some really key
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  people. Doctor Jhansi Lindsay is
• 41:07
  interviewed in the book. She talks about she's a
• 41:08
  microbiologist and toxicologist. She actually tells you what's in
• 41:11
  these shots. I interview Richard Hirschman,
• 41:14
  you might know that name. He's an embalmer who was made
• 41:16
  famous in the movie Die, of course.
• 41:18
  Talk about that. 1. Article So Richard was great I
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  interview APA who was fired from a hospital in New York because
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  she was putting cases into theirs to explain what theirs is
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  because most of these media companies will pull numbers
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  right. They want to look at government
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  numbers. But when you understand that the
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  government numbers aren't exactly they're not they're not
• 41:37
  accurate only about 1% and Harvard agrees with me 1% of
• 41:41
  what's out there actually makes it into theirs.
• 41:43
  So when you understand that you understand how the system works,
• 41:46
  then you can understand how how this kind of got away from
• 41:49
  everybody you know and it's funny there's so many I'm
• 41:52
  reading your chat. I was looking at what are, what
• 41:54
  are your, what are your, one of your guests in the chat, your
• 41:56
  viewers was saying, oh, you know, they, the PCR test, they
• 41:59
  make you sick from what's on the spot.
• 42:01
  That's just blatant a fallacy. And you know, it's, it's, it's
• 42:03
  amazing when I get people that want to come and say things
• 42:06
  about testing or how things work.
• 42:08
  I always ask them, what do you do for a living because you
• 42:10
  didn't have 19,000 patients and do this everyday and work with
• 42:13
  these labs everyday and these patients.
• 42:15
  It, it's, it's, it's amazing to me how people want to go down
• 42:18
  these rabbit holes. So the second book was also
• 42:20
  necessary to kind of finish the story.
• 42:23
  And now that I'm done, I, I am done.
• 42:25
  This is my last work on Covad, my new books coming out next
• 42:28
  month. It's on politics.
• 42:29
  And we're going to, we're going to transition out of I don't
• 42:31
  want to be the Covic guy forever, even though this was,
• 42:34
  you know, huge part of our life. You know, it's, it's difficult,
• 42:39
  right, because you know, in the data that you've collected,
• 42:42
  you've become an expert and you've got more details than
• 42:46
  many people that have been on this show.
• 42:48
  You know, you're now you're exploring the long term impacts,
• 42:51
  you know, of the efficacy of COVID vaccines, which I think of
• 42:54
  course lots of people are, are questioning what are, let me ask
• 42:58
  you this. What are some of the most
• 42:59
  significant findings, you know, from your research on vaccine
• 43:02
  rollouts and the boosters and maybe even go into some details?
• 43:06
  Did you find that some of them were worse than others?
• 43:08
  Is the Johnson and Johnson, was that more likely to cause less
• 43:12
  side effects than the Pfizer? And was it the first shot or was
• 43:16
  it the third booster? You know, they wanted us to take
• 43:18
  a booster every 15 minutes. You know that the advertising
• 43:21
  said we had to have 65 boosters to be, to be safe.
• 43:25
  And of course, you, you, you, you.
• 43:28
  You kind of touched on it when you said I hate to call it a
• 43:30
  vaccine. I think the courts agree with
• 43:32
  you. We had that ruling that they
• 43:34
  said you can't call it a vaccine because it's not a vaccine.
• 43:37
  So what are your thoughts? Well, it doesn't work.
• 43:39
  Like a traditional vaccine, you see when you say the word when
• 43:42
  when people want to argue with guys like me or RFK and they and
• 43:46
  they throw out the vaccine, anti vaccine, I know immediately they
• 43:49
  don't know what they're talking about.
• 43:50
  You're talking about multiple different types of technology,
• 43:52
  right? You start off with live
• 43:54
  attenuated. That's what the polio vaccine is
• 43:56
  based on something we've used for years.
• 43:58
  Not saying there isn't problems there.
• 44:00
  There's definitely problems with those types of shots, but not
• 44:03
  nearly what you see with the mRNA.
• 44:05
  There's subunit, there's a viral vector.
• 44:07
  J&J is viral vector. It was the one and done.
• 44:11
  And the analogy is a couple things.
• 44:13
  One is I told you before, if you had come to me a year into
• 44:17
  testing and treating and said, do I need this shot, the answer
• 44:20
  was always a laughable no. No, I didn't lose a patient.
• 44:23
  So we didn't recommend the shot for two reasons.
• 44:25
  One, it doesn't work, OK, you get 128 antibody response, and
• 44:29
  two, you didn't need it. It just doesn't make any sense.
• 44:31
  So the risk versus reward profile didn't make any sense
• 44:34
  when you saw them roll out and you see the differences.
• 44:37
  And when you look at the data, yeah, we see massive issues with
• 44:41
  mRNA. Now, Doctor Jhansi Lindsay says
• 44:43
  in my book, she says that the ones that were in the most
• 44:45
  purest form did the worst damage.
• 44:48
  The ones that were in the most purest the form were the
• 44:50
  Pfizer's. Now Pfizer is kept at and
• 44:53
  freezers that were 70 below the modern is where things that we
• 44:56
  had in our office, you would take them in and out of the
• 44:58
  freezer and get a little bit muddy down.
• 45:00
  What Doctor Jansi Lindsay describes is that when they get
• 45:03
  muddy down, they do less damage. The ones that were designed and
• 45:07
  kept in their purest form do the worst.
• 45:08
  And when you look at the charts, I know it's going to be tough to
• 45:10
  see on the on the show. I put a lot of charts in my book
• 45:13
  in this one because I wanted to exemplify what people were
• 45:17
  seeing and it's going to be tough to see.
• 45:19
  So I probably won't even hold it up.
• 45:20
  But when you look at the numbers, Pfizer takes the cake
• 45:23
  out of all the shots. Now, most people had gotten a
• 45:25
  lot of Pfizer's as far as J&J, when you see the numbers in J&J,
• 45:29
  they're like down here compared to Pfizer.
• 45:31
  So it was always Pfizer, then Moderna, then J&J.
• 45:34
  And one of the interesting things I found in here is that
• 45:36
  Nova Facts came out with a live attenuated version that's older
• 45:40
  technology and you see almost zero issues with that
• 45:44
  technology. Even though you don't need this
• 45:46
  thing. Again, lowest common
• 45:48
  denominator, they don't work and you don't need it.
• 45:50
  So you still want the shot. The answer is always, again,
• 45:53
  serious. Yeah, no, you don't need it.
• 45:54
  They don't work. But when you look at the ones
• 45:57
  who got the shots, Pfizer takes the cake, then Moderna, then
• 46:00
  J&J, and at the very bottom is Novavax with older technology
• 46:03
  that doesn't seem to 'cause these issues.
• 46:05
  So when you look at that data and you understand it, you
• 46:08
  basically come to realize that mRNA technology wasn't ready for
• 46:12
  prime time. It should have never been rolled
• 46:14
  out on the mass of the public because you know, when it when
• 46:17
  it comes to looking at things like cancer targeting things, if
• 46:21
  you're in a situation where who have cancer and all of a sudden
• 46:24
  we can develop an mRNA shot that's going to target those
• 46:28
  cancer cells. Well, then risk versus reward
• 46:31
  might make sense to try the therapy at that point.
• 46:34
  If you're going to die of cancer anyway, it might make sense.
• 46:36
  But all of these people weren't going to die from COVID.
• 46:39
  We knew that right off the bat when that death count was on CNN
• 46:42
  and MSNBC. Don't get me around.
• 46:43
  Fox had it up there for a while too.
• 46:45
  You know, we're thinking, wow, this is just they're playing
• 46:48
  this thing all wrong. They're scaring the elderly.
• 46:51
  They're scaring people like my mom, who was washing her
• 46:54
  groceries and not going out. And I, I hold Doctor Fauci
• 46:57
  responsible for that because my mom passed away last year and my
• 47:01
  dad died the year before when I was writing my first book.
• 47:03
  Now my dad's death, if you look at the complications, you look
• 47:06
  at the autopsy report, it's very indicative of what we see from
• 47:09
  vaccine injury. My mom, I can't say that about,
• 47:12
  but I can tell you that they took enough time away with my
• 47:15
  parents that I will never get back.
• 47:17
  They took all the time that they didn't want to see us because of
• 47:19
  the masking and the washing and the social distancing that we
• 47:22
  didn't need eat from this ridiculous narrative that
• 47:24
  happened during an election season.
• 47:26
  I don't go there in my book, but I'll say it now.
• 47:28
  That's time I will never get back.
• 47:30
  And there's a lot of people in the world who, who, who don't
• 47:33
  have that kind of time. My, my, my friend Mike wasn't
• 47:36
  allowed to go to his father's funeral because of the draconian
• 47:39
  restrictions in New Jersey about getting together.
• 47:42
  I could tell you that I watched more 90 year old birthdays
• 47:45
  through windows when I was doing nursing homes because they
• 47:48
  weren't allowed to see their family.
• 47:50
  So you'd watch Mildred. I'm making up a name here.
• 47:52
  Looking out. Died his family out in the cold
• 47:54
  with a cake. Happy 90th birthday.
• 47:56
  And then Mildred would die six months later from loneliness and
• 47:59
  depression. Surviving COVID.
• 48:01
  I watched COVID people in nursing homes survive the COVID
• 48:04
  pandemic just to get shot up and vaccinated.
• 48:08
  And all of a sudden, two weeks, within two weeks of the shots,
• 48:11
  yeah, I had 6 patients stroke out in one of my nursing homes.
• 48:13
  I mean, you could see the cause and correlation at every single
• 48:17
  level. But this is what we weren't
• 48:19
  talking about in the media. You know.
• 48:23
  Of course we've heard all those stories.
• 48:25
  We've seen it on social media. Altmeda did a very good job of
• 48:28
  publicizing this where the, the grandparents are hugging the
• 48:31
  grandchild with, you know, through a plastic tent with arms
• 48:35
  as if they, you know, if they've, they've, they've
• 48:37
  contacted something much more severe.
• 48:40
  You know, they, they separated families.
• 48:42
  They did so many wrong things to now we've got a blanket pardon,
• 48:45
  a pre emptive blanket pardon. And it supposedly takes a window
• 48:49
  of life and says, hey, don't worry about it.
• 48:53
  Here's your get out of free jail card, even though you probably
• 48:55
  are responsible for more deaths in the United States than any
• 48:58
  other single kinetic event, Doctor Fauci.
• 49:01
  But we're going to give you a pass when you when you heard
• 49:03
  about that, that pardon and maybe the other ones bothered
• 49:07
  you. Of course, there were there were
• 49:08
  people in that list, you know, the the JCS committee, Millie
• 49:11
  and others that I have to be honest, I got really angry
• 49:15
  because I thought, here's one more F you from Joe Biden, one
• 49:18
  more, you know, screwing of the American public.
• 49:21
  How did you feel about the pardon for Fauci?
• 49:24
  Of course I'm upset. But I mean, it was expected.
• 49:26
  We talked about this, I talked about some of my show everyday
• 49:28
  and we were sitting there going, all right, well, it's going to
• 49:30
  see what's coming out the door, the, you know, the door at the
• 49:32
  12th, 11th hour here. And we expected it.
• 49:35
  We kind of expected it. If he didn't, if he didn't do
• 49:38
  it, I would have been surprised. Let's put it that way.
• 49:39
  Because you know, when you expose, when you expose Fauci
• 49:43
  and you expose Millie and you expose the J6 committee, who's
• 49:46
  now burned all their files or deleted all their files, you
• 49:49
  expose, you expose Biden. You know, what they did in this
• 49:53
  administration was they just, they had a media that would run
• 49:57
  cover for them and continue to tout the narrative.
• 49:59
  So, you know, Biden had to do what he had to do.
• 50:02
  I, I hope we can find ways at the state level, AGS like Ken
• 50:06
  Paxton and things like that to go after guys like Fauci because
• 50:11
  they are responsible for a lot of deaths, not just, you know,
• 50:13
  from the shots, but what we just talked about the loneliness
• 50:16
  factor, the separation of families.
• 50:18
  Because if I knew what I knew, Lance, if I knew what I knew as
• 50:22
  early as I did, how early did Fauci know it?
• 50:25
  Did he did he deliberately not want to listen to people like us
• 50:29
  because he was involved in this funding of gain of function in
• 50:32
  Wuhan? Did he, did he say, oh crap, now
• 50:35
  I got to have everybody look the other way and run cover?
• 50:37
  I think that's exactly what he did.
• 50:39
  I think those of us who understand the science and you
• 50:42
  had a guy, you had a doctor working at the the head of
• 50:45
  allergy and infectious disease giving you anti science.
• 50:48
  We don't wear masks for viruses. We know they're free floating at
• 50:51
  anything less than .25 Micron. We know a mask isn't going to
• 50:54
  protect you. We we know we can go down the
• 50:57
  list of all the draconian measures that this guy went
• 51:00
  along with and most people are in his circle continue to tout.
• 51:04
  So we can go a million directions.
• 51:06
  Go ahead. Well, it leads.
• 51:07
  To me where where I was taking this, we were talking backstage
• 51:10
  just for the audience. And the audience knows on this
• 51:14
  show that we believe that the DOJ is fully compromised.
• 51:18
  We know that Trump's cleaning it out now, but there are there's
• 51:22
  no oversight. So the DOJ has been fully
• 51:25
  weaponized. We've talked about many times
• 51:27
  how the groups that do oversight that you could actually report
• 51:31
  an infraction to, it's just the fox is watching the, you know,
• 51:34
  watching the hen house. Because the OPR Office of
• 51:37
  Professional Responsibility, it's a DOJ department.
• 51:39
  Penn, the public integrity sector or public integrity
• 51:42
  division. They don't like to be called
• 51:44
  piss, but you report to them, they're not going to do
• 51:46
  anything. Civil Rights division and of
• 51:49
  course the OIG itself all compromised.
• 51:52
  We've seen them violate the law across the United States.
• 51:55
  You felt that weaponization of the DOJ first hand and you're
• 51:59
  still dealing with it. I know you haven't talked about
• 52:02
  this on a show before, but I know our audience would like to
• 52:04
  hear it. I don't know how much of it you
• 52:05
  want to share, but I think it's important for you to take the
• 52:08
  time and we're going to turn this into some short form
• 52:10
  content, try to get into the right hands of the right people
• 52:13
  because it's not right, because you truthfully have the data to
• 52:18
  back up everything that you've published in your books.
• 52:21
  I don't know how they could take a look at you and think this
• 52:24
  guy's got data sets from 19,000 patients.
• 52:27
  You'd have to think the accuracy of the information he's putting
• 52:29
  out. So do you want to explain to the
• 52:31
  audience kind of how that started, why they came Matthew
• 52:34
  and what their strategy appears to be as they're just screwing
• 52:37
  with you, screwing with somebody that's trying to tell the truth?
• 52:40
  As usual, I I got a lot of. You know, friends, lawyers,
• 52:43
  advisors in my life that I go to with different things.
• 52:46
  And when I was about to release this book, one of them had said
• 52:49
  to me, just know that they're going to come for you when you
• 52:53
  publish this. And I kind of went out, you
• 52:55
  know, I mean, I get the censorship, but really you're
• 52:57
  going to come for little old me. And then I started doing some
• 53:00
  television. I started doing radio podcasts
• 53:03
  for the book. And within a couple months of
• 53:06
  releasing it, all of a sudden one of my one of my one of my
• 53:09
  practitioners got a subpoena. Lo and behold, they had one for
• 53:12
  me too. They just couldn't find me.
• 53:14
  I don't know how they couldn't find me.
• 53:15
  I'm pretty easily found. Everybody.
• 53:17
  I'm all my fans can find me. And the DOJ couldn't find me.
• 53:19
  They're going to old addresses. But I kind of knew it was
• 53:22
  coming. And then when I got my subpoena,
• 53:24
  I went back to those advisors and of course, the first thing
• 53:27
  they said was this, 'cause you released that damn book.
• 53:29
  And I was like, all right, well, these are the consequences.
• 53:31
  Like what now? And it's interesting in the way
• 53:34
  they come after you, Lance. They don't do it.
• 53:36
  It's not criminal. They came after me civilly.
• 53:39
  So what they do and what they did to me was they serve me with
• 53:42
  A50 page subpoena, which you can't understand unless you're
• 53:45
  an attorney. And I don't really speak
• 53:46
  legalese just as much as they don't speak medicine.
• 53:49
  So I went out and hired a civil rights attorney because I felt
• 53:52
  like my rights are being violated.
• 53:53
  They're sitting there asking for bank statements, they're asking
• 53:56
  for phone records, they're asking for text messages.
• 53:59
  And not my first impression was, wait a minute, can they can they
• 54:01
  just blanketly ask me for all this stuff?
• 54:03
  And my attorney says, yeah, because they're doing it in a
• 54:06
  civil matter. They're trying to now look at
• 54:08
  all the work you did during COVID and see if there's
• 54:11
  anything nefarious you did, see if there's any improprieties in,
• 54:14
  in, in under stark law and sunshine, all this.
• 54:17
  So I'm like, are you serious? So, you know, my first, you
• 54:20
  know, my first interaction with the DOJ was basically spending a
• 54:25
  crapload of money on attorneys that I don't have to now defend
• 54:29
  myself, considering that all they're doing is to looking for
• 54:32
  something. I, it's amazing to me in a
• 54:34
  country where you think you're free, where unless you have, you
• 54:37
  know, you want to charge me, charge me, but there's nothing
• 54:40
  to charge me for. We did nothing wrong during this
• 54:42
  entire exercise. As a matter of fact, we've lost
• 54:45
  hundreds of thousands of dollars because all the testing that we
• 54:47
  did for them, they promised us they would pay us for the
• 54:50
  uninsured and underinsured. Well, guess what?
• 54:52
  At some point during all of this that was going on, they said the
• 54:55
  CARES Act ran out of money, do not submit any more claims.
• 54:59
  So we're stuck now in the hole with no money from the
• 55:02
  government, which they write fully OS.
• 55:04
  And now I've got to answer subpoenas.
• 55:06
  Now that just didn't stop with me.
• 55:07
  They sent it to every single doctor we've worked with in our
• 55:09
  group. They sent it to every single
• 55:11
  employee in our group. And they've sent it to every lab
• 55:14
  that we worked with. Trying to really shake the tree
• 55:16
  here just I guess scare you or make you feel like, you know,
• 55:19
  what do I need to do it? All it's done is upset myself,
• 55:23
  my wife. I've talked about it a little
• 55:25
  bit on my show since Trump won because I feel a little bit more
• 55:28
  confident that I can talk about it with good people.
• 55:31
  But most people think, oh, that Trump won, this is just going to
• 55:34
  go away. It hasn't because these lawyers
• 55:36
  have now doubled down at the DOJ trying to act like it's only
• 55:39
  been a week, but they're still coming because I guess they want
• 55:42
  to justify their job. So every bit of work they did in
• 55:45
  the last two years they have to justify now.
• 55:47
  Yeah, and I think you've just nailed it.
• 55:49
  It's job security. We, you know, Georgia and you
• 55:52
  can comment law fair. The the first step of law fair
• 55:56
  is to inundate the target. And of course, when when they go
• 56:01
  on these fishing expeditions with A50 page subpoena and they
• 56:04
  ask you for everything for the color of your underwear right
• 56:07
  through whether or not you ever frequented a certain bar or what
• 56:11
  kind of a vehicle you drive. And you know, did you write off
• 56:13
  the miles as an example on your way to work?
• 56:16
  You know, that's part of it because they've got to drain
• 56:18
  your resources, what they want to do and what they do with
• 56:21
  many. They did it to General Michael
• 56:23
  Flynn. They did it to Rodger Stone.
• 56:25
  Of course those were criminal, but it doesn't matter the, the
• 56:28
  because they they have an unrestricted budget and they
• 56:32
  also have an obligation when they start a case federal, you
• 56:36
  know, criminal or civil. And they talked to their boss
• 56:39
  and they said, well, what do you think it's going to take to go
• 56:42
  after Doctor Michael Schwartz? They look at your tax returns
• 56:44
  sometimes preemptively to decide how deep your pockets are and
• 56:49
  try to figure out what it would take to drain you of your
• 56:52
  resources because you'll get to a point where they say, well,
• 56:55
  look, we're willing to sweep this under the rug, but we want
• 56:57
  you to this is your civil assessment.
• 57:00
  Or, hey, we're thinking about taking this criminal because we
• 57:03
  think that you operated without a medical license in these
• 57:06
  areas. Whatever they come up with,
• 57:07
  whatever bunch, the garbage they come up with, but that's it.
• 57:10
  Because they've got to hope that you don't have the money when
• 57:13
  that time comes or that they force you into selling your home
• 57:16
  or selling your, you know, your, your I, your IRA funds or your,
• 57:20
  your, your retirement accounts. Because that's what they do.
• 57:23
  They try to drain you. Because of course, when a
• 57:25
  prosecutor working for the DOJ decides they're going to
• 57:28
  weaponize that institution against somebody, they, they
• 57:32
  have an unlimited reserve and, and they, and they, since
• 57:34
  there's no oversight, there's nobody really doing oversight
• 57:38
  over the Department of Justice. They claim there is.
• 57:41
  But I guarantee you this, if you found out that they were, that
• 57:45
  you found out there was some kind of prosecutorial misconduct
• 57:48
  in some manner and you attempted to go online and report it to
• 57:52
  the OPR as an example, the first thing you would get back is a
• 57:54
  response. And even though you're talking
• 57:57
  about a federal prosecutor and you're talking about the
• 57:58
  District of New Jersey or whatever, whoever's doing this,
• 58:02
  whether it's coming out of New York or DC or wherever, they
• 58:05
  would say, oh, well, this isn't a federal case.
• 58:07
  We don't have oversight. That's almost their standard
• 58:09
  operating. Even though you might have given
• 58:10
  the names of the federal prosecutors, given the
• 58:13
  addresses, they'll kick it back that that that's the same thing
• 58:16
  they do with the Civil Rights Division.
• 58:17
  Pen and if you go to the the Bar Association and say I believe
• 58:21
  I'm being targeted, the Bar Association in New Jersey will
• 58:24
  tell you that we we don't have any investigative budget.
• 58:29
  You have to bring it to us in a nice, you know, wrapped with a
• 58:32
  bow. Perfect.
• 58:33
  Here's what the guy did. Here's a copy of his text
• 58:35
  messages, things that you would never, ever have access to.
• 58:39
  And that's the disgusting part about this system.
• 58:42
  I think what's important is for us to try to, and we'll, we'll
• 58:45
  try to help you with this, Mike. We'll try to get you some optics
• 58:48
  on it. You know, we've got some
• 58:49
  important meetings coming up because I believe the DOJ is a
• 58:52
  weaponized institution that needs to be taken to its knees.
• 58:55
  They use a thing called absolute immunity.
• 58:58
  And in my opinion, the only person that has absolute
• 59:00
  immunity is God. Beyond that, when you start
• 59:02
  talking about qualified immunity and absolute immunity, they
• 59:05
  operate as if they're untouchable.
• 59:08
  And I think that garbage needs to go out the window.
• 59:10
  I've had enough of it to the point that even you go through
• 59:13
  this process and let's say you're exonerated, you should be
• 59:16
  able to in a civil action, of course, you should be able to
• 59:19
  get all your your court assessments and your legal fees
• 59:21
  returned. But they won't do that.
• 59:23
  Even if you were going to try to go down that road, they're going
• 59:27
  to say to you, well, you have to file a tort claim.
• 59:30
  Now, a tort claim doesn't work like a normal civil claim.
• 59:33
  If you want to sue George because he wronged you, he
• 59:35
  punches you in the nose. You got an injury.
• 59:38
  Yeah. George is smiling.
• 59:39
  He punches you in the nose. You now have a medical injury.
• 59:42
  You have medical bills. You had to get plastic surgery.
• 59:44
  You have the equity portion of it.
• 59:46
  What you're saying this is what it cost me?
• 59:47
  I'm also now I have some, you know, some side effects from it
• 59:51
  where I'm nervous because I didn't see George when he came
• 59:53
  to me. And now I'm.
• 59:54
  I'm, I'm not operating well in public.
• 59:55
  Of course, you get punitive compensatory damages.
• 59:57
  In this case, you have to ask if you can file a tort claim.
• 1:00:00
  And in 95 or 98% of those times, the government will tell you no.
• 1:00:05
  Now, you can go ahead and continue to file, but the first
• 1:00:07
  thing that will come back from the judge when you presented,
• 1:00:09
  well, you were already told that you don't qualify for a tort
• 1:00:12
  claim. Now you think about it, not only
• 1:00:15
  do you have to ask for the oversight, it's ridiculous.
• 1:00:18
  So the the the plan is to drain. You know, Doctor Michael
• 1:00:22
  Schwartz of his resources so that when they come to you at
• 1:00:25
  the tail end of it and say, well, we think you did this,
• 1:00:27
  this and this, it could go criminal.
• 1:00:29
  That'll be the next statement. This could go criminal.
• 1:00:31
  But Mike, we're going to take it easy on you.
• 1:00:33
  We just want this kind of a civil judgement.
• 1:00:34
  At that point, you're like, well, you guys took all my
• 1:00:37
  money. I spent it on millions of
• 1:00:38
  dollars on lawyers, right? You know, what do I do at this
• 1:00:41
  point? And that's the disgusting nature
• 1:00:43
  of it because here's a guy that I see that's done the homework.
• 1:00:47
  You did the work, you've saved the data.
• 1:00:50
  You know, you, you can see that you're, you're very organized in
• 1:00:52
  the way that you presented these books.
• 1:00:53
  I looked at a lot of reviews online and people's perception
• 1:00:56
  of the books, you know, before I did the interview, you know,
• 1:00:59
  there, the transparency of the way you operate is very clear.
• 1:01:04
  But they don't like what you did because in fact you exposed the
• 1:01:07
  truth. How do they shut you up?
• 1:01:10
  They pull AJ6 on you. It's a feds erection.
• 1:01:12
  But this is a meds erection right?
• 1:01:14
  It's, it's look, I've been involved in politics all my
• 1:01:17
  life. I've also consulted and run on,
• 1:01:19
  you know, 45 different campaigns, worked on three
• 1:01:21
  presidentials. I'm outspoken.
• 1:01:23
  I'm on my show every morning. I'm on my show at night.
• 1:01:25
  But we talk about this stuff. They might not be happy, you
• 1:01:28
  know, but that's not a reason to go after somebody.
• 1:01:30
  You know, we, we basically, we were trying to save the whole of
• 1:01:33
  humanity in the first couple months to this.
• 1:01:35
  We were trying to save everybody from those lockdowns.
• 1:01:38
  So that's it's kind of a slap in the face to not only not get
• 1:01:40
  paid for it, but doesn't have the government come after you.
• 1:01:43
  And my, and my attorney and I, we've talked.
• 1:01:45
  I mean, we know, look, we've done nothing wrong.
• 1:01:47
  My attorney sees this as a fishing expedition.
• 1:01:50
  They won't tell you that, you know, even though you kind of
• 1:01:52
  know you're the target, they don't tell you that.
• 1:01:54
  I had an MP quit over this. She was at the end of her career
• 1:01:57
  anyway. But you know, sometimes people
• 1:01:59
  see DOJ and A50 page subpoena and they go and they get scared.
• 1:02:03
  So I had somebody quit over it, didn't want a discussion.
• 1:02:07
  Just figured, Oh my, there must be something wrong if the, so
• 1:02:09
  this is what they do. We have labs that that we used
• 1:02:12
  to work with and had great relationships.
• 1:02:14
  They've gotten served with subpoenas.
• 1:02:15
  We haven't had conversations. These are people I've worked
• 1:02:18
  with for years now. We don't talk anymore because
• 1:02:21
  everybody's nervous that the DOJ is looking at, you know, what
• 1:02:24
  are they trying to find? That's kind of the, the, you
• 1:02:26
  know, the mantra. So we know we're in the clear.
• 1:02:29
  I even told my attorneys to look, you know, I've got a legal
• 1:02:32
  defense fund up now, which nobody cares, nobody donates.
• 1:02:35
  And like I said, even the people on our side, they go, it's going
• 1:02:38
  to blow over, Blow over. I still owe my lawyer thousands
• 1:02:41
  of dollars. You know, we're in the hole for
• 1:02:43
  thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars that I
• 1:02:45
  don't have just because they decided that they wanted to
• 1:02:48
  screw with me. I'm hoping that the DOJ gets an
• 1:02:51
  overhaul. But I mean, you, you need a
• 1:02:53
  serious overhaul. I I had Congressman Buddy Carter
• 1:02:56
  on my show last week and I was talking about this briefly.
• 1:02:59
  And he goes with you. He goes, look what they did to
• 1:03:01
  Trump. I go, yeah, at least Trump could
• 1:03:02
  afford the legal fees. He's got people that back him
• 1:03:05
  up. True, But he's got a.
• 1:03:06
  Lot of people that couldn't couldn't look for the legal fees
• 1:03:09
  there in a hole. But I would like let me touch on
• 1:03:10
  something anything. You can't believe the
• 1:03:12
  government, but the only way to help to get your cause is it's
• 1:03:15
  who you know it's not what you know and you know between Lance
• 1:03:19
  and myself and other people we know people we can get your your
• 1:03:22
  paperwork to them and hopefully get a kibosh who knows.
• 1:03:25
  But you have to give time for the DOJ for look, we have to
• 1:03:29
  get, we're still waiting for cash Patel to get to be put in
• 1:03:34
  as FBI. You know, the AG Pam Bondi, she
• 1:03:37
  just got in there. It's only like you said, it's
• 1:03:39
  only been five days. But look what today just
• 1:03:40
  happened in our own state. Everybody was freaking out over
• 1:03:44
  those people, a lot of people freaking out over the drones.
• 1:03:46
  And turns out that the Biden FAFAA authorized those drones.
• 1:03:50
  But yet they, they didn't want to tell nobody.
• 1:03:52
  They want to just let people be in, in Pananovia, say all this,
• 1:03:56
  this and that, but this is the way they operate.
• 1:03:58
  But hey, Mike, I've got a. Question, George.
• 1:04:02
  You know one person that might also be able to get him some
• 1:04:04
  traction. Do you know Mike Crispy?
• 1:04:06
  Yeah, Yeah, I do. Yeah.
• 1:04:09
  Have you have you talked? To him about trying to get you
• 1:04:11
  in front of the right people, I haven't.
• 1:04:13
  I I've been around a little bit longer than Mike Crispy.
• 1:04:15
  I don't know. I know of him.
• 1:04:16
  I have friends that know him. My Co host knows him pretty
• 1:04:19
  well, but you know, I, I, I've look, I, I've talked to some of
• 1:04:22
  the people at the Trump team about this.
• 1:04:23
  They actually knew the prosecutor's name right off the
• 1:04:25
  bat because that he apparently he's been screwing with them
• 1:04:28
  too. So like there's people that kind
• 1:04:30
  of know, but you know, I'm not a priority on the list.
• 1:04:32
  You know, I'm just a little old me, you know, and everybody's
• 1:04:35
  got other issues to deal with, but you know, it's you you
• 1:04:37
  mentioned these people. I've been in the game for a long
• 1:04:39
  time. I, I, I've run, I've worked on
• 1:04:42
  congressional, I've worked on U.S.
• 1:04:44
  Senate campaigns, presidential campaigns.
• 1:04:46
  I got and and I'm not trying to correct you, George, but I
• 1:04:49
  always just saying that I always use and I tell my stepson, it's
• 1:04:52
  not who you know, it's who knows you.
• 1:04:54
  And and unfortunately, you know, enough people know who I am and
• 1:04:58
  my integrity and my character for many years in the career.
• 1:05:00
  But when I released a book, other people I didn't really
• 1:05:03
  necessarily want to know who I was started to take aim at me.
• 1:05:07
  And you know, those people might not know my character in my
• 1:05:09
  resolve, but I'm a very principled person.
• 1:05:11
  I will ride this out. You want to file charges, file
• 1:05:14
  charges. I will.
• 1:05:14
  I will go to jail if I have to, if I can't afford legal fees
• 1:05:18
  because I'm a principal person. I'm not going to sit here and
• 1:05:21
  just take it because you decided to screw with me.
• 1:05:24
  It's just not right. And now I feel more comfortable
• 1:05:26
  talking about it because Donald Trump is in office and the right
• 1:05:30
  people are coming. But you saw today they had a
• 1:05:32
  fire, what, a dozen attorneys that worked with Jack Smith.
• 1:05:35
  They just weren't automatically fired.
• 1:05:37
  There's another hundreds and dozens of attorneys like that
• 1:05:41
  that we just haven't gotten to yet because it's going to take
• 1:05:44
  some time. Don't forget the judges, too.
• 1:05:46
  Yeah, and let. Me say this, I mean, and I, I, I
• 1:05:50
  agree with what you're saying. What I think is disgusting is
• 1:05:52
  that who makes Doctor Schwartz hole.
• 1:05:56
  You go through this and even if you're exonerated, I, I, you
• 1:05:59
  know, and not that I'm picking on your attorney, but I love how
• 1:06:01
  they say, oh, it's just a fishing exposition.
• 1:06:03
  It'll be fine. It's going to blow over.
• 1:06:05
  Yeah, of course. Why they're billing you .15 walk
• 1:06:09
  to the water cooler to call the client .20 called client.
• 1:06:12
  He didn't answer the phone. You know, I mean, we've been
• 1:06:16
  through that. I know the process and there
• 1:06:18
  really isn't any way to get made whole.
• 1:06:20
  Just like you talked about, they were supposed to be paying you
• 1:06:22
  for all the testing and if you put a number and potentially
• 1:06:26
  what the federal government should have paid you because
• 1:06:29
  they promised you they would. How how big is that number,
• 1:06:32
  Doctor Schwartz? How big is it?
• 1:06:33
  Pretty it's pretty bad. I'll.
• 1:06:34
  Tell you all of the the thousands and thousands of tests
• 1:06:37
  that we did for free for uninsured and underinsured, we
• 1:06:39
  got paid under $10,000. How much do you think?
• 1:06:43
  The real number is they probably.
• 1:06:45
  It's probably in the neighborhood of a quarter
• 1:06:47
  $1,000,000 that they still owe us.
• 1:06:49
  And, and, and that's a big, big number.
• 1:06:52
  And my point is that's the problem because really what
• 1:06:56
  should happen is you counter suing them civilly for the
• 1:06:59
  quarter $1,000,000 they owe you within this case.
• 1:07:02
  My thing would be to do, you know, reverse discovery.
• 1:07:04
  Also my thing would be to, you know, request that the court
• 1:07:08
  appoint a special master because you think that they've created a
• 1:07:11
  fishing expedition. You've got all your IS dotted
• 1:07:14
  and your T's crossed and you'd like an independent third party
• 1:07:17
  to review what's going on. And they don't like that, that
• 1:07:20
  they don't like. And I think what's important at
• 1:07:22
  this point now that Trump's in is for you to get extremely
• 1:07:24
  vocal of the way they're coming after you.
• 1:07:26
  Because if you don't sign, you know, shine some sunlight on it.
• 1:07:30
  I, I know, I know how this DOLJ operates.
• 1:07:33
  And and a lot of people don't know George and I are working on
• 1:07:36
  a bunch of stuff behind the scenes because this DOJ is
• 1:07:39
  guilty of maybe the largest constitutional violation in U.S.
• 1:07:43
  history that is get swept under the rug.
• 1:07:45
  A thing called Securus Technologies where they've been
• 1:07:47
  eavesdropping on pretrial defense defendants and post
• 1:07:50
  conviction defendants phone calls since 2006.
• 1:07:54
  I'm going to get that in front of Pan Bondi and many others
• 1:07:57
  because I don't like it. I think it's disgusting and I
• 1:07:59
  think it's disgusting when somebody like you gets attacked
• 1:08:02
  because that's what it is. It's a weaponization and it's
• 1:08:05
  not right. Because at the end of the day,
• 1:08:07
  the question is if you have 100,200 thousand 300,000, you
• 1:08:11
  know, General Flynn, George, what's the number General Flynn
• 1:08:14
  had in his legal 8 million or 11,000,000?
• 1:08:16
  I always get confused. He was. 8 million in a hole from
• 1:08:18
  that BS million in the. Hole after he'd sold his family
• 1:08:22
  home and drained his accounts before he started his
• 1:08:26
  documentary. Hopefully now he's been made
• 1:08:28
  more hole, but it's disgusting. Somebody I I want to know about
• 1:08:30
  The Dirty 51, and this is no different than that.
• 1:08:33
  I don't care what the class is when you talk about this
• 1:08:35
  weaponization. I don't care whether we're
• 1:08:37
  talking criminal. I don't care if we're talking
• 1:08:38
  about The Dirty 51 + 8. I don't care whether or not
• 1:08:41
  you're talking about the J Sixers.
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  All those people have suffered the consequences because in your
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  case, the reputational damage. If I was your attorney, if I was
• 1:08:51
  your attorney, I would be counterclaiming them right now
• 1:08:54
  for the reputational damage. But there's no claim.
• 1:08:57
  So there's nothing to counterclaim yet because now
• 1:08:59
  it's they're still in the fishing expedition of hey, we
• 1:09:02
  need these text messages with metadata.
• 1:09:04
  Then you send over what you want and you send them over
• 1:09:06
  everything and they go, we don't like the way you send it.
• 1:09:08
  We want it all a different way. Here's a program to do it and we
• 1:09:11
  want it all by tomorrow. And the business meanwhile,
• 1:09:14
  you're trying to run at your life.
• 1:09:15
  These they're the most ridiculous, unrespectful, demand
• 1:09:18
  commanding people. They always forget that they
• 1:09:20
  work for us. I think they forgot that a long
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  time ago when they got into government.
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  Absolutely. I'm a I'm a big proponent of
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  government of the people by other people, for other people.
• 1:09:28
  I used to be a cop. I remember I served them not not
• 1:09:30
  the other way around. People used to thank me for my
• 1:09:32
  service and say I can get paid for this.
• 1:09:34
  You know, it's not a thank you for your service type thing when
• 1:09:36
  people volunteer to thank you for your service.
• 1:09:38
  You know, I, I just look at life a little bit differently and
• 1:09:41
  most of my fans know that if they watch the show or if
• 1:09:44
  they've read the book, But you know, when you got a, these
• 1:09:46
  people don't even talk to you. They won't have a conversation.
• 1:09:50
  They just tell you they need XY and Z.
• 1:09:53
  And then that two weeks later when you don't hear from them,
• 1:09:55
  they tell you they need more and then more.
• 1:09:57
  And then you find out another person in your, in your sphere
• 1:10:00
  got a subpoena because they're looking into them now.
• 1:10:02
  And that scares everybody from talking to you or doing business
• 1:10:05
  with you. They can play this out.
• 1:10:06
  My, my lawyer tells me basically you give them everything you
• 1:10:09
  need, everything they want, and hopefully they go away and you
• 1:10:13
  know, but that's, that's the old adage because two weeks later,
• 1:10:15
  you know my opinion. Is you go back to the old IRS
• 1:10:18
  system that when they continue to audit you, you take
• 1:10:22
  everything that you've got in your possession and you dump it
• 1:10:25
  into trash bags and you have those hand delivered by
• 1:10:28
  certified receipt. Because as much as that sounds
• 1:10:32
  smart, Alec, yeah, I think there comes a point when government
• 1:10:36
  needs to be told, you know, go F yourself.
• 1:10:39
  And as as hard as that is, a lawyer would never advise you
• 1:10:42
  that. The difficulty comes that I
• 1:10:44
  think what I don't like about the legal system.
• 1:10:46
  And we've done a bunch of research on PACER Lexus Nexus
• 1:10:50
  and we've looked at the way that claims are filed, whether or not
• 1:10:53
  it's a set of cookie cutter motions in a defense case where
• 1:10:56
  they filed the cookie cutter motions and then the prosecutors
• 1:11:00
  file a motion that's got misquoted law, misrepresented
• 1:11:03
  statutes and the rest of it. And then the the the defense
• 1:11:07
  counsels don't even reply to this garbage that gets filed
• 1:11:11
  simply because they've got half a dozen other cases in front of
• 1:11:14
  that particular department of the DOJ.
• 1:11:16
  And they're negotiating, you know, civil settlements and
• 1:11:19
  they're negotiating plea agreements.
• 1:11:22
  Because let's face it, the the fact that the DOJ with his
• 1:11:25
  screwed up as they are, has a 96 or 98% success rate in civil and
• 1:11:30
  federal criminal cases doesn't make any sense.
• 1:11:33
  Any mathematician would tell you that's physically impossible.
• 1:11:36
  I'm sure a guy like you that looks at data sets would say,
• 1:11:38
  yeah, unless there's cheating, there's just literally no way
• 1:11:40
  they could do this, right? It's just mathematically it
• 1:11:43
  doesn't make any sense. But, and I think there comes a
• 1:11:46
  point where even when you're dealing in a situation like
• 1:11:49
  yours, you just have to say no, no, you've got the data.
• 1:11:51
  I don't need to supply it to you in any other manner.
• 1:11:53
  That's the way we've done. I've done that.
• 1:11:54
  I've done. That a few times I've gotten
• 1:11:56
  just the other day it's a private, you know, I guess my,
• 1:11:59
  my audience knows this, but on Friday I went to the ER for a
• 1:12:02
  possible heart attack. I had some chest pains and it
• 1:12:05
  was after dealing with my attorneys in the DOJ and I went
• 1:12:09
  in and had some tests done. I have more tests to be done now
• 1:12:11
  because they, they drive you to the point of insanity and you
• 1:12:15
  get, and I've told my attorneys multiple times to like, I'm just
• 1:12:18
  done. Tell him go fuck off.
• 1:12:19
  Tell him to charge. You wanna charge me, charge me.
• 1:12:21
  Because I'd rather go in front of a judge who might be more
• 1:12:24
  impartial than some DOJ attorney who is just caring about their
• 1:12:28
  conviction rate and wants to screw with you.
• 1:12:30
  So I've told my attorney this multiple times and my attorney
• 1:12:33
  said, look, this is the last bit of information we're sending
• 1:12:35
  over and that's it. We're done.
• 1:12:37
  You know, we're not. Everything else is beyond the
• 1:12:39
  scope. Yeah, we've won on a couple
• 1:12:40
  things where we've we've, you know, they wanted, they wanted
• 1:12:42
  bank records on things. I'm like, no, it's like, why?
• 1:12:45
  You seriously want to go through my like my credit card
• 1:12:47
  statements? That's just inappropriate.
• 1:12:49
  It's bad enough that they want, you know, text messages and
• 1:12:52
  emails between me and my assistant, the different labs
• 1:12:56
  that we worked with, different doctors we consulted to a lot of
• 1:13:00
  the names on these lists. I don't even know who the hell
• 1:13:02
  they are. It seems like they just threw a
• 1:13:03
  wide net and said let's just see what we could find if there's
• 1:13:08
  anything there, and then we'll charge it.
• 1:13:09
  But I'm at the point now where I've basically told my attorneys
• 1:13:12
  to tell these people to go fuck off.
• 1:13:14
  But of course, you're right. He gives me other advice and
• 1:13:16
  says, let's just do this part and this part.
• 1:13:19
  And because what they have to do at the end of the day when you
• 1:13:21
  tell them no is they're just going to go get a judge to
• 1:13:23
  compel you to turn it over because they can under the
• 1:13:26
  statute. We read it.
• 1:13:27
  So at that point, now I'm spending more money legally by
• 1:13:30
  telling them to go fuck off when I just have to go back.
• 1:13:33
  And eventually I'm going to wind up doing it.
• 1:13:34
  So my attorney is also trying to be mindful of what I'm spending.
• 1:13:38
  But at the same time, at $500.00 an hour, you know that doesn't
• 1:13:42
  that doesn't get me very far. Yeah.
• 1:13:45
  Well, I'm sorry to hear that. You know, I, I think whenever we
• 1:13:49
  talk about the ethics of the DOJI, don't think they even know
• 1:13:52
  what the meaning of that word is.
• 1:13:54
  Let's let's get back. I want to, I want to go back
• 1:13:56
  into the books just for a few minutes here so we can kind of
• 1:13:58
  give some conclusions. You know, when you did this,
• 1:14:01
  obviously there's a lot of ethical implications when it
• 1:14:03
  comes to public health policies. Do you believe there's been any
• 1:14:07
  accountability for any of the failures or do you think there's
• 1:14:10
  any accountability coming because you see the failures in
• 1:14:13
  the medical system? You've you've proven it.
• 1:14:16
  I'm thinking, I think that's probably, well, it's not
• 1:14:18
  probably, it's absolutely why they came after you because they
• 1:14:22
  have to try to stop you from continuing to expose the truth.
• 1:14:26
  What do you think about accountability and consequences
• 1:14:29
  of the medical industry for the misinformation they promoted?
• 1:14:32
  What do you think that what do you think's going to happen?
• 1:14:34
  You got any prediction? I mean, you know, we can.
• 1:14:36
  Go around in one big circle at the end of the circle.
• 1:14:38
  That's a shame. You know, my wife's a nurse
• 1:14:40
  practitioner. She gets mad every time
• 1:14:42
  somebody's questioning her because now everybody just
• 1:14:45
  trusts the medical community and rightfully so.
• 1:14:47
  I said this on a show earlier today, you know, people should
• 1:14:50
  look into their doctors. I, I hate to say it, like I
• 1:14:53
  always like to know people's, I hate to say political affiliate,
• 1:14:56
  but I like to know the way they think, right.
• 1:14:59
  And it tells me if you're a logical thinker or an emotional
• 1:15:01
  thinker and if you're a logical, at least I can, you know, maybe
• 1:15:04
  put some faith in what you're saying.
• 1:15:05
  The medical community went off on its tangent.
• 1:15:08
  They, they, they had no experience with this at all in
• 1:15:10
  the beginning. They started just going off with
• 1:15:13
  the CDC said, I mean, if anything, that should expose the
• 1:15:16
  government and our medical, you know, institutions like the CDC,
• 1:15:20
  because they went, they just kind of went whatever direction
• 1:15:22
  the narrative they wanted to go. They didn't want to listen to
• 1:15:25
  the real science we had. We had, I had studies on masks
• 1:15:28
  that were like self reported on, on on military ships and was the
• 1:15:32
  dumbest, you know, studies that they they, they pick cherry pick
• 1:15:36
  from to try to get you to, you know, cover your face to try to
• 1:15:39
  get you to social distance, to try to get you to stay home from
• 1:15:42
  school and then force you into these shots.
• 1:15:44
  The accountability is, is shot. And I feel bad for people like
• 1:15:48
  my wife who just, you know, spent a nurse for 15 years.
• 1:15:51
  She just graduated nurse practitioner school and she's
• 1:15:54
  excited to work, but at the same time, she's tired of the way
• 1:15:57
  medicine has worked around her. So, you know, I, I, I think we
• 1:16:01
  have to get back to some assemblance of normalcy.
• 1:16:04
  But I, I would, I would implore the public to question your
• 1:16:07
  doctor, have a conversation, find out if you're on the same
• 1:16:10
  page. And if you feel you're
• 1:16:12
  comfortable with the person you're working with, great.
• 1:16:14
  If you don't fire that person and teach them a lesson because
• 1:16:17
  there's too many people that went along with the ridiculous.
• 1:16:20
  If you, if your doctor still has one of those plastic things up
• 1:16:24
  after, you know, after the nursing station, whatever, fire
• 1:16:27
  your doctor. If they're still wearing masks
• 1:16:30
  in their office, fire your doctor.
• 1:16:31
  They obviously don't get it. If they're wearing a mask for a
• 1:16:34
  virus, which we don't do, they obviously don't understand
• 1:16:37
  medicine. You know, it's time we start
• 1:16:39
  calling people out, but it's also the time we, we respect
• 1:16:42
  those and give deference to the ones that were on our side the
• 1:16:44
  entire time. There's a lot of good people in
• 1:16:47
  medicine now that are getting the shaft because, you know,
• 1:16:50
  they're just lumped in with everybody else, and that's a
• 1:16:52
  shame. Well.
• 1:16:54
  That's a few questions. People that are lumped.
• 1:16:56
  In with everyone else. Did they speak up against every
• 1:16:59
  like when all the COVID mess was coming around?
• 1:17:02
  No, some did some. Didn't there's a doctor?
• 1:17:04
  I know that there's some that didn't then.
• 1:17:06
  They're not really on my eyes. I'll look at it like they ain't
• 1:17:09
  speaking up, then they don't. Then they should be lumped in
• 1:17:13
  with them. Because I have two friends.
• 1:17:14
  I grew up with their doctors. They they spoke up.
• 1:17:17
  They, they were my neighbors. And they said straight up don't
• 1:17:19
  get that stuff, this and that. Listen, even before COVID, when
• 1:17:22
  I go, if I had to, I don't rarely go to doctors.
• 1:17:25
  I rarely get sick. But if I had to, they want to
• 1:17:28
  prescribe something. I'm looking it up and seeing
• 1:17:30
  what it's all about and why they giving it to me before I even
• 1:17:32
  take anything. Because all these most doctors,
• 1:17:35
  all they want to do is give you medication and you need to take
• 1:17:37
  another medication for the side effects of that one.
• 1:17:40
  I mean, because it's all big money.
• 1:17:42
  That's the problem. You know there's.
• 1:17:44
  A. George, there's a test.
• 1:17:46
  We do in our office. It's, you've talked about
• 1:17:48
  respiratory pathogen panels before.
• 1:17:50
  There's another genetic test we do in our office called a
• 1:17:52
  pharmacogenetic test. Pharmacogenetic test is done
• 1:17:54
  with a cheek swab. It gives me a 35 page report.
• 1:17:57
  I can tell what medications you can and can't take for the rest
• 1:18:00
  of your life. It's it's, it's a lot of times
• 1:18:01
  we use it for people who are polypharmic like you just
• 1:18:04
  mentioned. They're on medications, you're
• 1:18:06
  on 7 meds and they're on medication 7 to offset the side
• 1:18:08
  effects of medication too. And when I have a patient walk
• 1:18:11
  in my office and never had one of these done and they're on 7
• 1:18:13
  meds, I say the same thing. Fire your doctor.
• 1:18:16
  You know, you should be going to people who know the limitations
• 1:18:19
  of medicine that aren't guessing at things, that have access to
• 1:18:22
  testing and treatment that works.
• 1:18:24
  We are in a different age now and a lot of people were trained
• 1:18:27
  30-40 years ago. We didn't have access to stuff
• 1:18:29
  like this. You have to vet your doctor.
• 1:18:31
  My wife would love you because you know, you do some research.
• 1:18:34
  She always says she loves a well educated patient.
• 1:18:37
  But then you know, that sometimes turns into a web MD of
• 1:18:40
  I think I know more than my practitioner was.
• 1:18:43
  You know, my wife spent a lot of time in school.
• 1:18:45
  She would probably, you know, prove a lot of those people
• 1:18:47
  wrong. But you know, education is great
• 1:18:50
  and, and knowing what you're doing.
• 1:18:51
  We went into COVID not knowing, went into COVID trying to get a
• 1:18:55
  shot for something that wasn't killing any of my patients, that
• 1:18:59
  I had proven data wasn't working.
• 1:19:01
  And yet you had guys like Fauci yelling at people that this was
• 1:19:05
  a pandemic of the unvaccinated. They, they blatantly lied to
• 1:19:08
  people. They used the narrative and they
• 1:19:10
  forced a lot of people into a corner, like my wife who had to
• 1:19:13
  get the shot because she worked at the hospital.
• 1:19:16
  And there's a whole thing to that too, George.
• 1:19:18
  You know, the hospitals wouldn't get reimbursed from CMS, which
• 1:19:21
  is the Centers for Medicaid and Medicare, if 80% of their pay of
• 1:19:24
  their staff wasn't vaccinated. So, you know, they were, they
• 1:19:27
  were threatened with being fired if they didn't get the shot
• 1:19:30
  because the hospital needed to get paid, right?
• 1:19:32
  It's efficient. What about all the?
• 1:19:33
  Bonuses and money they got for every like person they gave her
• 1:19:36
  in decimer to or or. That's a lot.
• 1:19:39
  Of that's a lot of that's BS. It's funny because we talk about
• 1:19:42
  this all the time. My wife I know.
• 1:19:44
  I know people that was running in hospital, they they were the
• 1:19:46
  hospitals getting money for that in certain.
• 1:19:49
  Circumstances, yes, but you'd have patients yelling at my wife
• 1:19:52
  going, oh, you can get your $15,000 bonus now because she
• 1:19:56
  was telling them that they were positive.
• 1:19:57
  My wife's a nurse at the hospital at the time.
• 1:19:59
  She's just telling them what's on the report.
• 1:20:01
  You know, she didn't care about, you know, but these patients
• 1:20:03
  would come after people like my wife was trying to do the right
• 1:20:05
  thing, but my wife didn't want to get the shot.
• 1:20:08
  My wife's got a heart issue now from the shot.
• 1:20:10
  She's got plaque and aorta and enlarged right atrium.
• 1:20:13
  She's had joint issues ever since this shot.
• 1:20:16
  She didn't want these stupid things, but she was forced to.
• 1:20:18
  She was going to lose her job. We weren't married at the time,
• 1:20:21
  you know, And look, I advised my patients not to do it because
• 1:20:24
  again, the risk versus reward didn't make sense.
• 1:20:26
  It wasn't a logical choice. It was just blatant.
• 1:20:29
  That was blatantly obvious that if people went and got it done
• 1:20:32
  and came to me and complained later, they got a joint or heart
• 1:20:34
  issues. Well, now we try to work with
• 1:20:36
  them to fix that. But what we saw these shots
• 1:20:38
  doing, guys, we saw it exacerbating areas of weakness.
• 1:20:41
  It was the woman who would have joint issue at 40 and now it's
• 1:20:44
  coming out of 20. It's the guy who would have a
• 1:20:46
  heart issue at 70, and now it's exhibiting itself at 40.
• 1:20:48
  That's the best way to describe what we were seeing in layman's
• 1:20:52
  terms from what we saw in the beginning.
• 1:20:54
  That's where Fauci's fiction ends, and vaccine fiction picks
• 1:20:57
  up on that and goes into all the data and explains the why.
• 1:21:01
  Well, when they. Find out how much money Fauci
• 1:21:03
  really made off of this whole thing.
• 1:21:04
  People are going to be like, well, hopefully we'll see.
• 1:21:07
  Some of the states try to get people results in those.
• 1:21:12
  One of the things is when. Somebody builds the right AI and
• 1:21:15
  takes all the medical information and puts it in
• 1:21:18
  there. Everything from herbs, from the
• 1:21:20
  natural cures. You're going to see where you
• 1:21:23
  ain't going to need a lot of big pharma anymore.
• 1:21:25
  It's going to be if it's done right, yeah, there's a lot of
• 1:21:29
  great. Cures out there for a lot of
• 1:21:31
  things that we probably haven't heard of and you know it's Lance
• 1:21:34
  brought it up earlier. It's like, you know, I was
• 1:21:35
  trying to explain to my audience like RFK wants to come and take
• 1:21:39
  medical commercials, pharmaceutical commercials off
• 1:21:41
  TV, which I think is great. But then talk to Fox News about
• 1:21:44
  that and ask them whether big advertising money comes from
• 1:21:47
  every other commercial. It's the pharmacot that how they
• 1:21:49
  going to make that up. It's a vicious cycle of
• 1:21:51
  everything's convoluted and nobody really puts their finger
• 1:21:54
  on the pulse. Well, and we talk.
• 1:21:55
  About that, I want to just touch on this point before we wrap
• 1:21:58
  this up. The complication comes from that
• 1:22:01
  when you look at media and you look at Washington, DC and you
• 1:22:06
  look at social media influencers, you know they
• 1:22:09
  should be wearing NASCAR jackets at the end of the day.
• 1:22:11
  When you look at the left and you look at the endorsements
• 1:22:14
  that they're getting paid, that they're never disclosed.
• 1:22:17
  And that's where the truth in advertising disappears because
• 1:22:20
  at you know, so much of it, even for the elections, the FCC
• 1:22:23
  waffles when you call them or the FTC and you ask questions
• 1:22:26
  about being compensated for by different groups, whether it's
• 1:22:31
  lobbyists and if they're anything connected to elections.
• 1:22:33
  And they will give you the slight of hand answer because
• 1:22:37
  they really don't want to tell you what the loss is.
• 1:22:39
  And you look at the laws in line and it's very clear.
• 1:22:41
  But you would think when it comes to if me personally, I'd
• 1:22:44
  make lobbying illegal, I wouldn't allow the military
• 1:22:47
  industrial complex or big farmer to lobby at all.
• 1:22:49
  In fact, I'd make it criminal. If you get caught lobbying,
• 1:22:52
  you're going to face immediate criminal charges for it.
• 1:22:55
  Because I, I think that's where so much of the disinformation,
• 1:22:57
  it's starting to get handed down.
• 1:22:59
  Of course, that kind of protective media enforcement
• 1:23:04
  that happened through COVID and it happens all the time.
• 1:23:07
  Yeah, it needs to go away. But you know, these, I don't
• 1:23:09
  know that in the time period we have with the Trump
• 1:23:11
  administration, if we have 3 1/2 years or three years before they
• 1:23:14
  have to start campaigning for the next person they want to put
• 1:23:17
  in there. I don't know if they can clean
• 1:23:19
  this all up. It's such a mess that I'm not
• 1:23:21
  sure it's doable. But maybe we can make some small
• 1:23:24
  changes. Maybe we can give you a hand
• 1:23:25
  with what you have going on and try to get some of the details
• 1:23:28
  into maybe the right people. So maybe they know you in the
• 1:23:31
  right way versus the wrong way, like the DO JS attempting the
• 1:23:34
  duty. Or maybe we can help you get
• 1:23:35
  some relief. We'll try.
• 1:23:36
  But you know, Doc, before we wrap up, I just want to give you
• 1:23:39
  what I call the shameless plug period.
• 1:23:41
  Where can they find your book? You know, tell them about your
• 1:23:44
  show, tell them about your social media.
• 1:23:46
  I'd like to help you. I think I found your right
• 1:23:47
  account on X. I'd like to help you if you
• 1:23:49
  build that up. Maybe tell ordinance how they
• 1:23:51
  can file, you know, follow you, keep up your date with what
• 1:23:54
  you're doing. I never used.
• 1:23:56
  X when it was Twitter because it was so woke.
• 1:23:57
  Now I started using it and I got like 250 people on there.
• 1:24:00
  I'm like woo Hoo. The best place is Rumble for the
• 1:24:03
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