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Did Andy Really Say That? LA in The 80s, and Inappropriate Wedding Behavior with Jacques Peterson · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have one of
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  Speaker 2: our return favorites, Daily Mail reporter, Australian tall cutie, Jacques Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Juicy Scoop. How have you been?
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  Speaker 4: I'm good. I love the tall cutie every time I
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  Speaker 4: come in here. By the way, I've been getting recognized
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  Speaker 4: by Juicy Scoopers on the street.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God, that means so much to me. We've
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  Speaker 2: made it.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm very flattered. They're like, oh my God, I
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  Speaker 2: I love it. So come up to Jacques anytime you want. Um,
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  Speaker 2: all right. This came up in the last couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: It's a big Andy Cohen news. Andy Cohen was, I
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  Speaker 2: believe doing like a Q and a on threads. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And someone in a more angry manner wrote like, why
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  Speaker 2: are you letting all these MAGA people, women be on
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  Speaker 2: your shows? And he basically said, um, Real Housewives isn't
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  Speaker 2: about politics and we like having women with different points
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  Speaker 2: of view. And that's very surprising being that he has
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  Speaker 2: shared his political views very often on the shows as
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  Speaker 2: well as his own show, watch what happens live and
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  Speaker 2: who he gives mausles to and things like that and
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  Speaker 2: who he gets. There's mausle and what's the negative one?
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  Speaker 4: A jackal, I think.
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  Speaker 2: There's the jackal and it's very much political oftentimes.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: But he's trying to say the show isn't about that.
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of people then came forward and was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I disagree with that because these people have been fired
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  Speaker 2: and they were Republican or, you know, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: anybody that says I'm MAGA. Like they, some might'll say, well,
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  Speaker 2: I was a Republican or whatever, but that seems to
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  Speaker 2: be the weaponizing word.
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  Speaker 4: Well, okay. Here's the thing. What he's saying about this,
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  Speaker 4: he said, this is a show, not about politics. It's
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  Speaker 4: about women's lives. We need people with different perspectives. That's
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  Speaker 4: what makes a good show. Exactly. We all agree. I've
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  Speaker 4: been saying it forever. I was screaming that from the
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  Speaker 4: rooftops during 2020 when every housewife and reality star was
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  Speaker 4: getting canceled for, you know, saying something politically incorrect, saying something.
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  Speaker 2: It's not politically incorrect. It was just politically.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, some people said.
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  Speaker 2: Not what the wave was or whatever. This is what
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  Speaker 2: I think of Andy saying this. I think he did
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  Speaker 2: the mausoleum of the week was Fauci in which he
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  Speaker 2: praised him.
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  Speaker 4: And.
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  Speaker 2: They put it on their watch what happens live Instagram page.
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  Speaker 2: And the comments were not in his favor from what
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  Speaker 2: I read. People didn't really think that was the deserve
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  Speaker 2: the muzzle of the week. Okay. And with less than
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  Speaker 2: a week later, this question came up. So I think
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  Speaker 2: they may have realized they play their hand wrong on
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  Speaker 2: that one. And the way to answer is we allow
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  Speaker 2: people to have different political points of view. Now, if
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  Speaker 2: you really look down the road of who got fired,
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  Speaker 2: there is an argument for both sides because there's been
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  Speaker 2: a lot of really liberal people that have been fired too. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and that, that, so it's like, was it
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  Speaker 2: that or was it that it just didn't really work
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  Speaker 2: for the cast and the franchise at the time?
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  Speaker 4: Did the liberal people get into a specific scandal related to?
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  Speaker 2: No, they did not.
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  Speaker 4: So good point.
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  Speaker 2: Very, very good point. No, I think it's fair to
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  Speaker 2: say that it definitely played a hand in, several of
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  Speaker 2: the women, Ramona.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Housewives of New York, they rebooted all of Housewives
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  Speaker 4: of New York because people were complaining that the cast
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  Speaker 4: is too conservative. And then they brought, well, they brought
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  Speaker 4: in Ebony, Kay Williams, to educate everyone. And then we
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  Speaker 4: had racial education dinners, if you remember that. Everyone got
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  Speaker 4: assigned a black history figure. And it wasn't... Changed the show,
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  Speaker 4: for sure. And then it got canceled.
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  Speaker 2: And it was literally like Ramona was walking through... a
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  Speaker 2: mine of like bombs and she just couldn't handle it.
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  Speaker 2: And so they got rid of Ramona and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there there's, but now in the celebratory time of 20
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  Speaker 2: years later, they're realizing this is what's working.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And people know that women, um, of a certain age
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  Speaker 2: and of a certain economic background might not be up
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  Speaker 2: on the way that That a 25-year-old is representing themselves
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  Speaker 2: and speaking on social media or in their everyday life.
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  Speaker 2: And does that mean that they should be burned at
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  Speaker 2: the stake and never be seen on TV again? And
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  Speaker 2: after they put them on pause and fired them and
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  Speaker 2: sent them off to... an island or given them only
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  Speaker 2: one week of work every three years so that they
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  Speaker 2: can throw a fit about which room they get, they're realizing, oh, actually,
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  Speaker 2: this is what people are more receptive to and they're
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  Speaker 2: more excited about and talking about. So now let's step
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  Speaker 2: back and say, oh, Housewives was never supposed to be political. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: But it fell in the trap that a lot of
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  Speaker 2: things did during those volatile years.
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  Speaker 4: I think they should acknowledge. I think there should be
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  Speaker 4: an acknowledgement of like, look, Everyone went a little crazy
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  Speaker 4: around 2019, 2020, 2021. It was peak woke. It was
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  Speaker 4: peak cancel culture. We all overshot the mark. We overreacted.
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  Speaker 4: I wish there was an acknowledgement instead of it now
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  Speaker 4: just suddenly like, well, we can have people with all
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  Speaker 4: kinds of views.
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  Speaker 2: There isn't going to be because that would be saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know what? I was wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And most people don't say I was wrong. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean... This is sort of getting into like touchy subjects,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean, what's going on with the WNBA? Like,
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  Speaker 2: are they going to say, hey, maybe we're wrong about
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  Speaker 2: this and maybe it should just be women who were
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  Speaker 2: born women that are playing against women in this sports
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  Speaker 2: where people are getting paid professionally. But they don't know
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  Speaker 2: what they're going to do now. So it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so we're just going to go through this weird thing
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  Speaker 2: that's happening with these guys now saying– I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: wear a wig and do this and just to prove
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  Speaker 2: to you guys that you need to admit that this
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  Speaker 2: isn't a good idea and that you're wrong. And we
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  Speaker 2: were just going to watch it play out. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that's what's happening in this next phase of things
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  Speaker 2: is like, who's going to admit that they were that, that, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: in retrospect, who is going to say in retrospect, maybe
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  Speaker 2: I didn't behave. Maybe I didn't say the right thing.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe we reacted in a wrong way. All the housewives
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  Speaker 2: is about is take accountability. Is Andy Cohen ever going
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  Speaker 2: to take accountability? Are the Bravo executives ever going to
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  Speaker 2: take accountability and go, yeah, we freaked the fuck out too.
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  Speaker 2: We got sick of the angry DMs and the emails.
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  Speaker 2: And we fell to this group of people that were
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  Speaker 2: acting like they had signs and pitchforks, but they didn't.
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  Speaker 2: They were just at home typing, saying, fire this person.
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  Speaker 2: And we did.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And they overreacted.
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  Speaker 2: And we had lawyers and everyone was freaking out and
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  Speaker 2: everyone didn't know what to do. And no, they're just
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  Speaker 2: going to act like it just didn't happen and go
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  Speaker 2: watch them throw wine in each other's faces. And let
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  Speaker 2: us remind us that this isn't a political show and
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  Speaker 2: this is an escape.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they probably should, though, I think maybe if
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  Speaker 4: they're so sensitive about the politics of the cast members,
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  Speaker 4: maybe there should be a blanket rule in your contract
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  Speaker 4: that you can't talk about politics at all. Left, right, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Or there should be a blanket rule that you will
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  Speaker 2: turn in your voting records to them. Yeah, you can't vote.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like, how far is it going to get? Like,
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  Speaker 2: are they literally going to go, we need to know
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  Speaker 2: if you've ever given to, we need to know what
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  Speaker 2: charities you've given to. They all better be LGBTQIA and pets. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They better not be anything else that could be anything
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  Speaker 2: but animals and that. And then we also need to
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  Speaker 2: know who you voted for, who your parents voted for.
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  Speaker 2: What countries your grandparents came from and how they got
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  Speaker 2: into here. I mean, how far is it going to go?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I understand you say something nasty on a
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  Speaker 2: tweet that... is living on your page and you didn't
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  Speaker 2: think to delete it before you met with the Bravo people,
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  Speaker 2: then you're maybe that fucking stupid. But also having really
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  Speaker 2: stupid housewives is also entertaining.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's why they're good television because they are.
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  Speaker 2: They're narcissistic stupid. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And I just want to add in that it goes
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  Speaker 4: both ways. Like, yes, 2020, it was one way. It
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  Speaker 4: was if you said anything that was, you know, politically incorrect, whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Now I kind of feel like more of the right
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  Speaker 4: are turning into Karens and canceling people on the other side.
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  Speaker 4: So it goes both ways.
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  Speaker 2: Totally agree.
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  Speaker 4: Annoying from both sides. I think, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 4: care if I'm watching, you know, a Trump supporter or
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  Speaker 4: an AOC supporter or whatever. If they're good on the
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  Speaker 4: TV and they have a storyline that works for the show,
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  Speaker 4: I I'm more than happy.
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  Speaker 2: But also like hating someone and thinking they're annoying and
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  Speaker 2: being bugged by them is what makes good reality TV. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If they were all sweet and lovely, you wouldn't watch either.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they tried to do it with Rony Reboot. And
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  Speaker 4: let's scale it back and have Jenna Lyons. And look
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  Speaker 4: how that worked. It was not good. And now all
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  Speaker 4: of the Ramona and everyone now have their own show
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  Speaker 4: on E. Because E was like, oh, we think they're
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  Speaker 4: good TV. We'll put them all together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So there you go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, I guess, yeah, with Vicky and then Emily,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, you know, somebody figured it out. They found
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  Speaker 2: out that she... went to a party and wrote a check. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with Emily.
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  Speaker 4: And therefore, and she.
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  Speaker 2: Says, she's kind of like, well, whatever. I don't feel
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  Speaker 2: that way now. So leave me the fuck alone. But
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  Speaker 2: people do change.
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  Speaker 4: People change their politics. Maybe she did. I mean, I
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  Speaker 4: know plenty of people that supported one candidate a few
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  Speaker 4: years ago and now it's 2026 and they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I don't really like how things are going. Now I've changed.
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  Speaker 4: People change.
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  Speaker 2: I just remember there was a time it was like,
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  Speaker 2: don't talk about politics or religion at the dinner table.
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  Speaker 2: And you went into a voting booth and the curtain,
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  Speaker 2: this is old days, curtain would cover because you weren't
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  Speaker 2: supposed to know. And it's like when people say, I
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  Speaker 2: don't want, you know, go in person because I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to do a mail-in ballot. I'm like, I can
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  Speaker 2: see someone not wanting to do a mail-in ballot because
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  Speaker 2: maybe some fricking fan is going to steal your mail
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  Speaker 2: and open it up and take a photo of it
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  Speaker 2: and say, you liar! You voted against this proposition.
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  Speaker 4: But, you know, back then as well, you think about, like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think people made politics their whole personality back then.
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  Speaker 4: And we didn't have social media, so people didn't put
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  Speaker 4: out everything they're thinking and get on their Instagram stories
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  Speaker 4: and sound off. Like, you're probably just at home and
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  Speaker 4: you see something on the news and you just talk
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  Speaker 4: to the person next to you and then you forget
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  Speaker 4: about it. But now you put it on social media,
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  Speaker 4: it's there forever, and some Bravo fan digs it up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like saying, even us just talking a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about this I'm wondering, and I'm like, no, I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: We're keeping it in the show. You're not going to
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  Speaker 2: fucking intimidate me because I'm talking about Bravo. This is
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  Speaker 2: an article about politics with Bravo. And it is interesting
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  Speaker 2: that we discussed it, and it is staying in juicy scope.
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  Speaker 2: And leave me. the fuck alone about this.
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  Speaker 4: Shit and people can boycott whoever they want to yeah
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  Speaker 4: yeah you can you can make the decision.
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  Speaker 2: To not you can block people you you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to watch this season yeah you don't have to root
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  Speaker 2: for them you don't have to go to bravo con
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  Speaker 2: you don't have to wait in line to take a
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  Speaker 2: photo of the person that you hate you could go
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  Speaker 2: and like the girl from summer house that nobody knows
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  Speaker 2: do whatever the fuck you want like you know it's
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  Speaker 2: just so Um, annoying. And also it is just a
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  Speaker 2: reality show and there's no tenure. There's no, I was
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  Speaker 2: guaranteed 10 years and they got rid of me before
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  Speaker 2: I made tenure at the university. Like it's just a
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  Speaker 2: TV show and there's no guarantee that they're going to
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  Speaker 2: keep you forever. And when you're gone, you're gone. And
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  Speaker 2: maybe you come back and maybe don't. It made you famous,
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  Speaker 2: so use that fame to the best of your ability,
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  Speaker 2: you know?
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  Speaker 4: I always think when people funnel their anger into getting
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  Speaker 4: angry at a reality star, it's like, direct that at,
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  Speaker 4: you know, public officials and politicians. I don't, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that energy could be better used in a more productive
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  Speaker 4: way than Vicky Gumbelson. What?
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  Speaker 2: But, you know, they need them to get it. If
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  Speaker 2: you didn't care, then they wouldn't stay on the show either.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like they know that by going on the
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  Speaker 2: show that they're not going to be loved by everybody.
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  Speaker 2: And it is hard when you're not loved by everybody
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  Speaker 2: because I thought everyone loved me too. Ultimate Girls Trip
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  Speaker 2: is really fun. Oh, you like it? like it you
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  Speaker 2: don't like it tell me why you don't like.
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  Speaker 4: It I mean I think it's a it's like a
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  Speaker 4: clips show basically yeah it's a clips show and I
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  Speaker 4: think it is very much geared towards the diehard Bravo
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  Speaker 4: fan that is listening to 20 housewives podcasts a week
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  Speaker 4: that is going to the Dorit Kemsley unburdened book signing
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  Speaker 4: at Barnes and Noble and waiting an hour for a
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  Speaker 4: photo and their biggest trip of the year is BravoCon
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  Speaker 4: so I think it's cute for the fans the diehard fans,
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  Speaker 4: but otherwise it's a clips show.
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  Speaker 2: Well, one of the clips I saw did turn me on.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And it's coming up in the next episode. Okay. And
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: they're waiting at the sand and sea sand and surf
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  Speaker 2: in Laguna, which I've stayed up many times. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: they're getting ready to go on the bus to head
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  Speaker 2: back to LA where they're going to go to Kyle's
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  Speaker 2: white party. And, um, and I'm in that one. I
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  Speaker 2: went to that party and, uh, they're like, where's Kyle? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. She was here a second ago and
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  Speaker 2: she's in a bush and, and crying and Vicki comes
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  Speaker 2: over and she's like, what's wrong? You know? And you
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  Speaker 2: think like, this is great. You know, this is two
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  Speaker 2: housewives that have been on for the longest time coming together.
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  Speaker 2: And Kyle's like, I just, today is my 30th wedding
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  Speaker 2: anniversary and Marie, Marie Sue just texted me and I'm just,
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  Speaker 2: like a weird day and it's like a sad day
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  Speaker 2: and i'm just having a hard time and vicky's like
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  Speaker 2: well you should have a hard time you failed your
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  Speaker 2: whole family she's like i mean it's yeah no you
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  Speaker 2: should have stayed together for your kids well it's really
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  Speaker 2: hard too because the fact yeah you've let everyone down
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  Speaker 2: i thought that you were the couple that was going
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  Speaker 2: to make it forever but you didn't you gave up
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  Speaker 2: you gave up and now you're getting divorced and you
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  Speaker 2: broke up your family So you should cry about it
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  Speaker 2: and you should feel bad and you should work and
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  Speaker 2: you should sell. Well, I was like, it's so awful
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  Speaker 2: that if this was in a scripted sitcom and I
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  Speaker 2: was working on that show, I would say it's too unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: No woman in her right mind would go up to
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  Speaker 2: Kyle knowing what she's been through and say, yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: did fail the world. Nobody would say that. But Vicki does.
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  Speaker 2: And that is why she's terrible as a friend in
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  Speaker 2: this capacity, or she's clueless, or she's just old and
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  Speaker 2: white and narcissistic. But this is an insane scene that
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  Speaker 2: captivated me. So like, yes, I'm captivated by how horrific
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  Speaker 2: it is. When someone is crying their eyes out, that
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  Speaker 2: you would then turn it around. Any normal person would say, Kyle,
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  Speaker 2: I know you have had the weight of the world
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  Speaker 2: on your shoulders because you guys did present so perfect,
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  Speaker 2: but it's about your life. And the fact that you're
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  Speaker 2: still friends today says so much. Your daughters are all
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  Speaker 2: close to each other. You have a fabulous family. Don't
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  Speaker 2: be hard on yourself. That's what a normal woman would say.
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  Speaker 2: You guys, I am so excited. I'm coming to San
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  Speaker 4: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next.
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  Speaker 7: Each week on the show, I sit down with extraordinary
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  Speaker 7: people who have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: found a way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
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  Speaker 4: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
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  Speaker 1: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: filed against me.
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  Speaker 4: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: what would you do if it was given back?
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: I need a home dad. What happens next?
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  Speaker 2: When I came in, he started crying.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 18:30
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  Speaker 4: I decided to risk it all.
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  Speaker 2: I realized how valuable every day was.
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  Speaker 5: You're worth the work.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches. You can
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: use your voice even if it shakes.
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  Speaker 7: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Well, that's why they brought Vicky back to OC for
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: season 20, because we need that. And that was an
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: incredible moment. My theory with Vicky, I had heard before,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: because you know how she came back on OC for
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: a few seasons and she was a friend and she
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: was all just like, I hate fighting. Like I want
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: us to all get along. I basically heard that she's
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: not going to do stuff like that unless she's getting
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: a paycheck. So I think she thinks these things, but
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I think she is self-aware that in her day-to-day life,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: she doesn't say it. But then if there's a check
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: on the table, she's just going to say whatever she's thinking.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Yes. I mean, it almost seems too unbelievable.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: I don't think she would do it in real life.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, probably a producer said, Kyle's upset. She's
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: over there. Make sure you go and talk to her.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Maybe that was the most that was pre-planned.
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: But could it have been? I do think that she literally,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: that's what she thinks. Like, you did fuck up.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Yes, I believe she thinks that.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Still says to this day I regret breaking up with
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Don and she just said she ran into him at
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the nest which is like you'll have to come next
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: time we go it's very fun dancing and it's a
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: variety of aged people out in La Quinta love the
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: owner shout out to Dodie the owner she's fabulous And
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: she's like, said, I saw Don there. And she was like, Don, Vicki,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: she's living with her boyfriend in a house they share
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: out there. And she was like, and I regret it.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I regret, you know, cheating on Don that time with
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: that guy in Cabo. Then Tamara said, you call me
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: the next day. And people are like, a naked guy's
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: in my bed. And she's like, you're disgusting, Tamara. Like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: it was so, like that type of the stuff, which
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: is just, like the most, you guys are such, I'm
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: so sick of this show talking about friendships when they
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: are all horrible friends to each other. They don't keep
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: each other's secrets. Not only do they reveal the secrets,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: they reveal it on the reunion when the most eyes
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: are on it and they know it's gonna be replayed
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: for the next 30 years. So why are we talking about,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: none of them are good friends, everyone hates each other,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I don't believe any of them would be hanging out
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: or talking to each other if they weren't on TV.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's the new season of Orange County is
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: let's just talk about our friendship. Oh, wait, I want
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: to just go to this.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: This was Luann. Luann did a big New York magazine cover,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: an article, and it said, Countess Luann will drink you
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: under the table. And I'm like, this is the title? Like,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: we do remember that she got arrested for drunken disorderly.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: She wasn't behind the wheel. Yes. Like Shannon Medora, she
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: was not behind the wheel. She was confused at what
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: room she was in and she drank too much. And
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: from there, she did go to rehab. She went to AA.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: She was in the cop car. Remember the dash cam, whoops,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: the dash cam cops footage of her.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: She got out of the back, got her wrists out
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: of the thing. And she did her AA meetings. And
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I remember she was doing the AA meetings when they
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: were in Miami and she brought Sonia and Sonia's like,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I don't like this. This is depressing. And she's like,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: she likes to go up there and like tell her story.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, she's working on her act for the cabaret.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I used to think when I needed to get time
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: for stand-up, I literally was like I could get two
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: birds with one stone because I found out all the
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: best agents went to this one AA meeting off of
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Robertson and I needed an agent. And I was like,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: what if I just started like going to AA meetings
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: saying I'm a struggling stand-up that is an alcoholic and
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: then maybe an agent would discover me, but I also
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: could get stage time.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, I mean– That's brilliant. That could be a TV show.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Have you sold that?
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I just give the stories out, just do this stupid show.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: But anyway, and also in this, she's smoking. She's doing
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: two things that are not great for someone to do
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: when they're 20 or when they're 62.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Well, it was funny that after her whole, you know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: drunken arrest scandal was on the show, she was sort
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: of like had to like masquerade as she was sober
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: and she was, you know, going. It's like we all
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: knew that she wasn't. Everyone knew that she wasn't. Everyone
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: knew that she didn't think she had a problem. And
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: then she just waited it out. Now she's on the
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: cover of New York Magazine boasting about how she couldn't
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: drink anybody under the table.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just talked about Brad Pitt going back
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: to drinking after being sober for seven years. And yes,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: before it was seen that she was partaking in champagne
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: or white wine, I was hanging out with her and
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: she was having champagne and white wine or rosé or whatever.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: But she never... seemed drunk to me. And I don't
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: ever see, I didn't really think she, out of the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: spectrum of drunk housewives, she was not one.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: She just had a bad night.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Right, I mean, she fell in the bush, but that
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: was more like, she didn't see the step.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: She was pottying.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I never really saw like, oh, when, you know,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: we saw Dorinda slur and get really mean. We've seen
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Shanna Bedore get really drunk. We've seen Tamra get very drunk.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I feel like Vicky is, seems to be able to
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: maintain her alcohol. Lisa Vanderpump could always maintain it. Even
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Kyle kind of surprised me that she went sober. Because
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I definitely feel like she maintained, at least on camera
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: when she would drink, she seemed to be okay. So
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: with her, I was kind of like, I really think
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: she had a bad night and had to go that route.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: And I think that she has a lifestyle that lends
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: itself to having a couple drinks. She's never missed a show.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: You know, so it's like I feel when she does
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: her cabaret show, she gives a good show.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: I'm sick of sober housewives and I'm sick of sober
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: people in general because I did not. And my dad,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: my dad was an alcoholic and sober and everything. So
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I heard about all the AA constantly. AA people like
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: to preach a lot.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Were you around when he was still suffering with alcoholism?
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: A little bit, but he got sober when I was young.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: And then, you know, a lot of preaching and he
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: would be the sober companion for people. So I've heard
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: it all. And I didn't drink that much in Australia.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: And then when I moved here, there is alcohol everywhere.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: It's crazy. Like it's not normal in Australia to just
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: go out for brunch and people trying to like shove
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: mimosas down your, you know, neck. And I started drinking
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: more when I got here and I love it. And
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: everyone's going sober now. And I'm like, it's so boring. No,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: I love it. Love a cocktail at any time of
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: the day.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what? It's to each his own. Yeah.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: It's fun. And if people want to not drink or
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: they want to go a healthy route or a gummy
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: route or.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it though. It's sort of
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: become like the new like vegetarianism. You know how people
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: would get annoyed at vegetarians going, oh my God, why
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: are you eating meat? Like that's so bad for the environment.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: It's so bad for the animals. And now everyone's like, oh,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: I don't drink. It's like, well.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I only see the sober stuff like on TikTok
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and stuff. Yeah. And I'm like, how does this bitch
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: know I need to curtail it? But my own friends don't. Um,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: they still drink the way we've all drank, you know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: but it is a bummer when you were like ready
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: to have a fun weekend and someone's like, Oh no.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: But also that is the GLP ones too. It makes
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: you less, it just, you don't want to have that
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: second drink or even that first. And so it's like
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: a win-win except for the people that.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of housewives getting sober. Like Gina on OC.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I love her and I've always been a huge Gina
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: and Emily defender. But, you know, if they were going
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: to split them up and they had to get rid
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: of one, I would get rid of Gina just solely
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: because she's sober.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not even just sober. It's like ordering hot water.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: They don't even order hot water with a lemon. Like
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: really hot water is what you're starting with at four
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: o'clock on a Saturday? Like a hot water? And I'm like,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: You got to get shit faced. Like, I mean, OC,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: how many fun moments have we seen with the, even
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: back when the Trace Amigas were getting along well and
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: they were dancing on bars and doing shots and Emily
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: drinks and gets mean and calls people out. Yeah.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: But then that does live in infamy for you. So
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: it is more fun for us at home, but I
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: could see why if I had a bad season or
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I got really drunk or I, I mean, sometimes I
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: just like, you know, you look back at like a
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: video from the night and you like hear your voice
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, that sounds different. Like that's so,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine that like being on TV. I probably
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: would be that person that barely breaks on camera.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Gina's never looked better. She looks absolutely stunning. She's so successful.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: She's got the marriage together. The career's thriving. If she
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: leaves Housewives, she will be a successful realtor. So it's
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: clearly working for her. But for me as a viewer,
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: I liked the hair extensions and the drinking. Yeah. And
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: the personal issues.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, what do you want to say about this show?
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I just, the OC, there's nothing to say.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: It's just a lot of talking about friendships. And okay,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: here's what I think they need to do. Because I
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: like most of the cast. They're just missing kind of
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: an active, like they're just missing something juicy. It's like
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: they're almost there. Shannon, it's time for Shannon to go.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: If you've got to get rid of one of the
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Trace Amigas, it's got to be Shannon. I want Alexis
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Bellino back. I thought she was so good that season.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I thought it was... I was so upset when they
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: did not bring her back. Clearly because of Shannon. Because,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: you know, Shannon just happened to have the best season
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: of her entire Housewives career that year. I want Alexis back. And, yeah,
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: maybe another new person. Because the Carmella girl's good. You know,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: I like Vicky. I like everybody else. I do like
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Emily and Gina. I'm just saying if you had to
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: get rid of one, it would be Gina just because
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: she doesn't drink. Yeah, so... Alexis and someone new, and
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: then we'll be good.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: So keep Emily.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love Emily.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Here was my article.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes, your feud.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Maybe you can join.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Shabador reveals why she stopped speaking to Heather MacDonald and
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: recalls her recent interaction with Fort McManus. We already talked
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: about this. She's still bitter about it. She's still bringing
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: it up. She's still claiming she doesn't fall on purpose, whatever.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: That's fine. It was all a joke. Like, it was
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: all a joke because, you know, that's the way she is.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: And I've been imitating housewives. Forever. So she's just one
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: that I can do.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: But are you going to do more? Because I texted
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: you after I saw that and I said, Heather, you
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: need to make this like a running bid. You need
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: to be filming yourself going shopping, doing pratfalls at, you know, Marshalls.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: So are we going to see more of it? Because
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I want it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: Maybe.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Because I mean, falling is funny. So that's why she
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: does it.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: It was very funny.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: And like I said, I hope it is an act.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I really do. I would rather be an act than
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: like something else. But who cares it's just it's yeah
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: i just feel like it's.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Well she's saying it's a balance issue or something now
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: but it's like on um now on the valley everyone
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: is saying it's postpartum for everything every bad thing they
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: did i had postpartum rage I had baby brain. I mean,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: everything is now blamed on that. So you were clearly
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: falling on purpose for a bit.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Well, at least Reality Blur picked really cute photos of
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: both of us.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Oh, and sorry, did you see on... Yeah, she's beautiful.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: On Girls Trip when Vicky was getting tangled up in
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: the wig, it's like they're always doing a bit. Oh,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: I can't get my wig off. It's like, girl, you
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: can get the wig off. It's fine.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's going to be a lot of costumes
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and a lot of things like that. Very set up
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: type of stuff. But I still.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Think getting tangled in a yo-yo string.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I still think that's where, why Andy like said that,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: like just watch the, watch the show. Enjoy it. Don't
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: get angry. Let's step away from who I gave the
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: mazel to last week. Like just, you know, um, okay.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: We talked about the valley, the valley. We haven't seen
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: the second part yet, which you guys will be able
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: to watch tonight or the night before. Yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: They'll be watching it by the time they're.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Listening to Juicy Scoop. A lot of people were just
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: really shocked by Danny's appearance. And someone, I saw this
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: somewhere where they said, I heard that one of the
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: producers took the stuffing out of his couch seat to
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: make him appear smaller. And I just thought the visual
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: of some guy before they came on set and his
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: job was to like, I don't know how you would
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: take out the stuff.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: No one did that.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: What?
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: He's just that small.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And then just to sink down, I think he wanted
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: to get his jaw maxed done or whatever you call
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the maxing.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, the looks maxing. Looks maxing.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: So I think he lost a lot of weight, and
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: then I think he got Botox, and I think he
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: dyed his hair darker, and that's why he looks so
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: different in this reunion.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Yes. Because look at him here. Yeah, he looks hot there.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Like, look how much rounder his face is and stuff,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and she looks exactly the same, so I don't think
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: this was too long ago.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he looks Max in a little too hard.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, look. That really is a big difference, right?
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: And it's, like, scary, too. Like, there's something quite chilling
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: about the image. Yeah. It's kind of cursed.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: And then we do... I know they do talk about
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: what happened at Jasmine's wedding.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Well, he says... He goes, I haven't, because he was
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: so drunk on the finale. Remember, he's slurring in the back.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: In Mexico. Yes.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: No, no, in Brittany's Halloween party.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, the Count Dracula stuff.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, and then Janet tries to throw the drink and misses,
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: so then she throws the cup instead because the drink missed.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: And he goes, I have not been that drunk since
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: that night. And then Brittany's like, well, let's talk about
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: the wedding. And then we haven't seen the full episode,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: but in the preview they say that he went to
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Jasmine's Jasmine's wedding and he was so drunk he had
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: his shirt off and his shoes off in the corridor
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: or something. So, you know, another lie of him saying,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: I haven't been drinking and then he has.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: So then someone had to like kind of babysit him again,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I'm sure. Yeah.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: And that's pretty inappropriate. I mean, I know you let
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: loose at a wedding, but if you're taking your clothes
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: off at someone's wedding.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: But still, it's someone else's wedding. Yeah. Like you have to.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: You can get shit-faced at a wedding, but don't take
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: your clothes off and your shoes off. That's taking it
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: a little too far.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I'm just remembering some weddings right now.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: That you've got a little wild at?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Not wild. Just too wanting to make toasts and stuff
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: when I'm not in the wedding party. Like too emotional.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I have a wedding coming up, and I'm going to
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: be so well-behaved.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: No.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I am not making any toast.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: So wait, are you kind of like the girl that
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: then they're like, don't invite Heather to your wedding? Because at?
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Janelle's wedding. She made the most uncomfortable toast and we
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: were all just, it was awful. Is that you?
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Who's Janelle?
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: I'm just making someone up, but I'm just like, did
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: you do that?
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Um, no, I think people are really entertained by it
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: and it's all from a good heart and I don't
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: make it about me. Like it is really like this
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: person is, this is just, I have to talk. I
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: have to say something.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Cause that's what it's giving.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: This, and, No, and then there'll just be times I'll
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: just be like, I don't know, just walking to like
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Trader Joe's and it'll haunt me. It'll be like a
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: visual of like, why did you make a toast when
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: you were like three shards in? Just don't.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Have you seen that clip of the little girl? Well,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: she's not that little. She's probably like 11 or 12
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: and it's on a flight and the flight has stopped
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: and her mom lets her get up on the speakerphone
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: and she sings an entire theme song from Moana. The
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: whole song off key.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Off-key.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, off-key. She sounds terrible. And everyone's there, and it's
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: like the flight's been delayed like four hours, so they're
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: sitting there locked in the Delta flight. She's singing the
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Moana theme song.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I was from a family where my parents would have
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: people over, and my dad would be like, little girls,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: and we'd have to come down the hall and sing
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: songs from Annie. Yeah. But we were pretty good.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: But still.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: We've never done it in a public place without it
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: being like a church play. Okay.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: You haven't done it at a wedding. Have you sung
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: at a wedding?
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: No. Okay. I had someone say, would you want to
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: sing or be a bridesmaid? I said a bridesmaid. And
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: then the other one was I sang. Oh, God. I
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: sang at my sister's wedding.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: What did you sing?
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: She asked me to do it. And I just, and
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: it was such a problem because I'm like, it made
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: like the lead up to it. Like I was so
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: stressed about it when I could have just been having fun.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I sang Ave Maria.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Can I ask a question?
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Was the sister that you don't get along with, was
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: she there?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, but it was my sister Shannon that I sang for.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Yes, but it was the sister that doesn't like you.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Was she in attendance at that wedding?
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: And was she like fucking Heather again? I don't know.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: It was such a long thing. If you've been to
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: a real Catholic mass wedding, it's like an hour and
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: a half.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Was she asked to sing?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Um, no, but she wouldn't have wanted to. She wasn't
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: like both. Just Shannon and I are like singers. Okay. And,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: but I remember like there's two ways to sing Aubrey
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Maria and I decided to do it like in a
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: lower key. Cause I thought, I don't know if I
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: can get to those high notes. And someone was like, Oh,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize you had such a weird low voice.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: So instead that to be like at the wedding after it,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I was just like, Well, I don't know.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's two ways to sing it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I think he's... There's like all this like Latin in there.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember, but like, yeah. And I did
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: it because I was supposed to be, I got chosen
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: to do it in high school. And then the music
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: teacher said, no, you're not doing it. And so it's
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: been like this thing, like let Heather sing that Ave Maria.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: And I just.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: So her wedding game about you fulfilling your childhood dream.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I'm going to say, just as
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: for Danny after this, to remember being shirtless, shoeless, and
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: celebrating a lesbian wedding and being there with bells on. Now,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: would you rather have someone be a bump on a
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: log and not be overly invested in your wedding day?
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Or would you rather have them take off their clothes,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: jump in the pool, make a toast when they weren't
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: set to make a toast? and sing and do the splits.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I'd rather than be a wet blanket and stay out
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: of my way. It's my day. You're not taking over.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: You change your mind again.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I know I do really love weddings. Okay. So I
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: finally watched the end of Stassi.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: And I want to get your opinion of what do
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: you think of the show and where it's going?
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: How's the Stassi? I think it's without a doubt the
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: worst reality show I've ever seen. I hate it so much.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: I hate everything about it. I hate the fourth wall breaking.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: It is so obnoxious. It's not done in a clever way.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: It's just like every two seconds, it's like someone nudging
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: you in the rib. Like, get it? It's fake. It's
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: a reality show. It's very annoying. The cast is really,
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: really bad. It's not a good cast. I used to
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: love Stassi. I was a longtime Stassi fan. And I
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: used to think, like, I could be friends with Stassi. Like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I could be in her friend group. Like, now I
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: wouldn't want to be friends with her. And she has
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: no friends, as you see on the show. Like, I
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: dislike her. I dislike the show. It's horrible.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Well, remember it was supposed to be Stassi Says? Yes.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: And it was supposed to be a comedic docuseries. So
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: it was always going to be, like, a fake reality
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: show type of thing, like an office show. Or like
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: when we did After Lately, it was all these stories.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: We played ourselves, but we played it like funny, exaggerated
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: versions of ourselves. But we played ourselves working at Chelsea Lately.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: And throughout the year, there'd be funny things that would happen.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: And we'd come back from a weekend and tell a story.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: And right away, like one of the writers would put
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: that in a file of like, that would be a
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: really good storyline when we start doing After Lately again.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: And sometimes a story that would happen to me, they
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: would give to like, oh, two guys go to a
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: bar and this happens. Like, you know, the other characters
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: or whatever because it just makes more, so we would
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: take these things and then some of them things would
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: be made up but a lot of most of it
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: was like what had happened so I kind of thought
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: that's what she was going to do and like hey
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: this is what's happened in my life in the last
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: three years with my mommy friends and this and that
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: so we'll just sort of act it out but we're
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: playing ourselves I think that's what they attempted to do
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: and that didn't really work And then they were like,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: kind of in the edit, maybe reshot or redid the
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: confessionals to then make it this more dramatic thing, leading
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: up to this dramatic thing. Like, is their marriage going
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: to last?
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Well, okay. So many thoughts. Yes, they probably tried a
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: bunch of different things. I had heard they actually just
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: filmed it as like a normal reality show and then
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: it was stuck in production because they didn't have anything juicy.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: And then they had to add that meta concept of like, oh,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: we're actually going to make it a show about making
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: a show. That's why every confessional is like that. But
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: in scene, they're not talking about it as much, but
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: it's very much in the confessionals. Also, your marriage breaking
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: down to Bo is not a strong enough story to
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: carry an entire season. Like that is like, if you
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: were on the Valley, that would be your storyline as
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: part of an ensemble cast with a bunch of other
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: people having stuff going on. You know, like she's not,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: she's just, it's not juicy enough to carry a whole season.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what I also think is interesting is like,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: We haven't really seen her with Beau for like, you know,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: it's not like it was she and Beau for like
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: eight years, but it wasn't like we have a reference.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Like why do we care?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: You know, there are Kyle and Mauricio.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: So when you see that, you're like, oh my God,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: you know, and you can look back and you can
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: see what happened and where did, where did the crack
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: start or whatever. And then when someone said, oh, I've
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: listened to their patron for years, they're totally fine. Like
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: they have a great relationship. Then I was like, are
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: we all being gaslit?
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Like, was this all planned?
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Like, listen, one argument that we have is that you're
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the stay at home dad. And I like go, I mean,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: when she went, I saw an interview when she's like,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I get my lashes done. I do the EMS workout things.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I do this. I do that.
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: No wonder you're like busy. Yeah. And basically she's just like, yeah,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not super into the nighttime routines with the kids.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: crying and everything. And Bo's better at that. And okay.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Well, at the end of the show, she has this
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: huge meltdown when all of her friends have a friend-tvention
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: about her marriage.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: But it's also, that's so weird.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine all my friends being like, you and
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Peter need to get, like, they would go and talk
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: about it behind my back. Like, nobody would go say
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: it to you at your birthday and then say, like,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: it's your fault. And I did feel for her at
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: that moment when she's just like, the money, motherfucker. Like
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I make all the money. What more do you want?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: And I feel ganged up upon it. And you're doing
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: this as part of the show to make me look
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: like an evil witch. Guess what? You know, off with
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: your head. None of you are coming back on this show.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Kiss the, you know, the $ 3, 000 you made per episode. Goodbye.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Cause it's not happening. Second season. I'm going to find
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: some other people. Also, we can't repeat this next year.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: So I just think I think they were all like,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do because the producer's telling
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: me that I have to tell you that you're an
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: awful person. But I know if I tell you that
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: you're an awful person, you're going to not want me
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: on the show next year.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: But I don't even know if that was real because
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: she spent so much of the show being like, well,
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: I'm going to throw a dinner party. And you know
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: what happens at a dinner party on a show like this?
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: There's a fight. So there's going to be drama. So
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: she does the whole season like that. So then at
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: the end, I'm like, oh, are you just like, are
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: you having this huge overreaction to make us think that
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: it's real? But this is actually all fake as well.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: And it's not that juicy. By the way, you mentioned
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Kyle and Mauricio. It's like, yes, one, we're invested in
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: them because we watched them for 15 years or whatever.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: And then she still, her marriage breakdown was part of
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: an ensemble cast that everyone else had their own storylines going.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: It wasn't like an entire show about Kyle and Mauricio
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: like this is. So it's just like very, it's poorly made.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: They clearly got Katie Maloney in because they were like,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: we don't have anything. Like this cast is not good.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, that sister, Bo's Italian sister, who at Hulu
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: greenlit being like, yeah, she can be part of a
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: main character. Like, what?
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: And then the finale, there's another moment where that Taylor Strecker,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: which is her best friend and podcast host, names her
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: baby after Bo. It's like, I'm naming my baby.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Well, she, okay. She says she's having a baby. Her
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: wife is having a baby. They're lesbian. Yes. And she said,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I didn't, I don't feel connected because I'm not carrying
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: the baby and the baby's not biologically mine. So in
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: choosing the name, my mom's maiden name or something was
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: like Bodine or something.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: And so the baby's going to be Bodine or something
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: like that. But the nickname is going to be Bo.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: And she does look over and say to him. And
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: so then he's like, oh, my God. And then later
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: on she goes, I hope he doesn't think that we
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: named the child after him. We didn't. We just really
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: like the name Bodine. And it's just coincidentally Bo would
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: be a cuter nickname. And it happens to also be
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Stassi's husband's name.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: This made no sense because then if you're not naming
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: it after him, then why are we having, why are
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: you announcing it in front of him? And then everyone's
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: crying and you're like, and then you're going in your
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: confessional saying, actually, I didn't name it after him. It's
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: the worst show. I hate it so much.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I always remember when Brody Jenner was engaged to a
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: woman named Caitlyn.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, Caitlyn became Caitlyn Jenner. And I
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: remember I said to Caitlyn, did you think about that?
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Wait, you said that to Caitlyn Jenner?
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I said it to Caitlyn Jenner. And she said, no.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Never thought of it. And then they ended up, I
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: think they got married and divorced or it wasn't a
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: real marriage. But now he's with somebody else and they're
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: expecting their second child and they're married and her name
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: is not Caitlyn. But I do think sometimes when you're
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: like choosing names and things like that, you almost change.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: want to avoid a name that's too close to someone
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: in your life because you're like, I don't want you
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: to think I copied your kid's name or like, like
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't, maybe I don't get along with my brother.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: So like, I don't want my brother's name as something
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: like it was, it was a little bit, but it's
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: kind of an, again, we're talking about it. So it's like,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: there are certain things I, I.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Think we're talking about it in a bad way. I
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: don't think we're talking about it in.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: A positive way. I was just so curious. And I
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: don't know if I was curious because I personally know
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: some of these people and I'm curious how these shows
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: get greenlit and what they do with them and how
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: they do it in a different way. So to me,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: it was very, it kept my curiosity. It did get incredible,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: you know, viewership.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it did.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I thought it was like number one on Hulu or something.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: I think it was number one for like a day
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: and then it slipped.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: It's hard to know with the streaming, but I think
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: it'll be coming back.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, look, they seem to greenlight anything at Hulu.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: It's like no one watches Vanderpump Villa. And you know
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: what's so funny about Hulu? Have you noticed how now
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: every single Hulu show has to have the Mormon wives
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: in it? Because it's like they use the Mormon wives'
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: success to put every show over. They're on everything. They
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: were even on the premiere, like going after Sheena. And
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: my prediction is that Sheena will be on season two
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: of House of Stassi.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Maybe, or she'll have her own version of it.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: I don't think she'll get her own. I think Hulu
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: will be like, Stassi, this show is not very good.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: You need to bring in some more Vanderpump people to
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: mix it up with Katie.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Was Stassi and Sheena ever close, really close?
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: No, but they're like OG rivals. That's why they'll want
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: to bring her back because they hate each other.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then that feels inauthentic that you'd ever be
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: hanging out.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but then Stassi, because it's a metaphorth wall, Stassi's
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: going to be like, I know that we hate each other, but, like, look,
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: Disney told me that I had to bring on Sheena
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: and we're making a show. Wink, wink. So here she is. Like,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: that's literally what the show is. That's what she'll do.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: It's horrible.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Sorry, Stassi.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: L.A.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: News. Okay. The Lakers was bought for $ 12 billion by
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Bob Eichner, who is the president of Disney. Okay. Stassi's boss. Oh.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: And Josh Kushner.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Like the Kushners?
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, they freaking own everything now.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Don't they? And so it's 12 billion and that's it.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: You said, I don't know what that means. I'm like,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I don't really know either.
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll make the tickets more expensive.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know Jeannie Buss and I think it's
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: good for her family and that's it.
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Shards. This is, The show that is
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: based off the book of Brett Easton Ellis, who wrote
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Lesson Zero, that movie, that was really when I read
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: that book when I was in high school, that is
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: what made me want to go to USC. Oh, I
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: love that. Because it was about the private schools in L.A.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: and how he went to, you know, how his friends
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: went to USC and he went to this college on
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: the East Coast and the time... during those two, three
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: weeks that you come home for Christmas and you feel
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: like you're so much older and so much cooler because
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: you're not living at home anymore. And so that was
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: that book. And then this is basically the character, the
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: main character is Brett Easton Ellison. It's while he is
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: a senior at, I think it's Harvard Westlake.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Or a version of that type of school in LA.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: And what's amazing is that Kaya Gerber, who is Cindy
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Crawford's daughter, she is on it and she and her
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: mom look so much alike. It's insane.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: It's crazy.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: It's literally insane. Like I, I had a friend whose
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: daughter looked just like her and she just said one
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: day she just looked at her daughter and said, excuse me,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: can I have my body back now? What the fuck
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: is this? How did you suddenly walk out of the
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: bedroom and look like me? Like 30 years ago, I'd
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: like that. I would like that ass. That was mine.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I would like that stomach. I mean, Cindy's still gorgeous,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: but like, it must be like, I'm like, when your
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: daughter looks that much like you, do you not see it?
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: Cindy sees it. I read an interview with her years
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: ago and she basically said that she dealt with jealousy.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: She said it was hard seeing as she ages and
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: obviously her whole career is around her looks. She's known
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: as like in the nineties, it was her and Claudia
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: Schiffer were like the two top. And yeah, Then she's
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: seeing her daughter now on the cover of Vogue and
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: everything and looks exactly like her, but taller and skinnier.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: And... I mean, quite honestly, more beautiful than she was
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: in her heyday. But I love Cindy Crawford's looks because
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: she had brown hair and brown eyes. And at the time,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: that was like seen as like ethnic. Like literally everybody
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: was blonde and blue eyed, Christy Brinkley and stuff. So
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: she was like the first one that like my brunette
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: friend and I wanted to act like we like looked
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: like her and did our hair and, you know, loved
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: that look.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: I think the difference in their looks is that I
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: think Kaya is skinnier and has like a more high fashion.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: And I think that Cindy had a bit more of
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: a glamorous, like almost like a bit of a brunette
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Anna Nicole look.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: Like, when she did the Diet Coke ads and everything.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: And didn't she do, like, a few, like, sexy movies
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: in the 90s? Oh, Pepsi, yeah.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she did. They tried to make her a movie star,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: and it was really, really bad. Okay. She tried once,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: and then she was like, I'm out.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Then she had this thing where she's like, I met
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: a French skin doctor that realized that the inside of
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: a melon is what can make your skin last forever.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: So then she made a shit ton of money on this, like,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: melon serum.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay. Yeah.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: And.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: anyway the so she is an epo baby and then
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: she's dating in the show her the character that's plays
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: her boyfriend is isn't it yes which one here is
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: robert is uh richard isn't this richard no.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: No move over it's him that's yes that's that's richard's
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: son yes homer.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Gear oh i thought it was this one because i
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: thought he looked kind of like so um So anyway, yeah,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: so they're both on the show together. And she did say,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I've only ever been a Nepo baby and I've only
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: ever benefited in my career from it. But I also
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: find myself doing it for doing it to other Nepo
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: babies thinking like, OK, show me why you deserve this job.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: So I really like that honesty. And I saw an
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: interview with the Forrester girls, not Forrester, Foster, Foster. The
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Foster girls.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: The daughters of David Foster.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes, yes, yes.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Who also have the Nobody Wants This Show and the
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: big clothing empire. And they became famous for writing funny
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: tweets and people are like, who are these funny girls?
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: And they've really taken their opportunities and their talent and
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: done the most with it. And one of the girls
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: was saying, one was saying, well, you just don't get
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Emmy nominations because of who our parents are. And the
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: other one said, yes, but we're here because we were
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: in rooms with CEOs, writers, actors. We were in rooms
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: that the average person that comes to L.A. that's bartending
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: right now, trying to sell their script, doesn't have the
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: opportunity for the introduction, the advice, all of it. Which,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I just think about the same thing with
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Kate Hudson. She's super talented. But we don't know that,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: you know, Goldie Hawn had all of her filmmaking friends
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: over and then Kate came in they're like Kate how
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: look at you how you've grown up and she can
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: act and sing too Kate we have wait I'm doing
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: a movie right now we need someone this could be
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: great yeah let me see and then they have then
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: she has access to all the best acting teachers and
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: everything and she gets the job and she executes it
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: well like that is what Using your nepotism to the
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: best degree, and there's no secret.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: She's fun to watch. Yeah, she's good in the show.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, I love the show. I think it's really
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: well done. And she's talented. And I've noticed that there's
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: a change in the PR strategy with the Nepo Babies,
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: because also Gracie Abrams, she is- The singer, yeah.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: She came out- JJ Abrams. Yes. And she was like,
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I'm a Nepo Baby. I get it. I got these opportunities.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: And If you look at some of the older Nepo
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: babies like Gwyneth Paltrow and like Jamie Lee Curtis, they're
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: very defensive about it. They're very much like, no, I
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: worked so hard. Like this is ridiculous. And now I
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: think that because we know that's so out of touch,
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: like Hollywood is who you know. It's your connections. That's
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: like 80 percent of the battle. And I think now
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: all of the young ones are being told by their
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: publicists like you cannot look like some brat that's being defensive.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: about being an Epo baby. Like you have to own
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: it and you have to say like, yes, like I'm
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: here because of my opportunity, you know, my connections and family.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I totally agree. And I've, I mean, I remember when,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: you know, I worked with Tracy Ellis Ross, like she's
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: super talented. She's as a great look, but I remember
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: like how she told me she just did all these
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: characters on a, she had a, she had a camera
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: in her kitchen. She did all these characters and she
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: made it a tape. And she gave it to her agents,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: which she got through her mom.
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: And said, like, I want to do comedy and characters now.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, there's a sketch show going on
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: right over here that you can do.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: And that same sketch show, I couldn't even get an
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: audition for. The only reason I got that is because
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: the white girl they hired for it. sucked and all
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: the writers that worked with me on Kenan was like,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: we know a white girl that'd be good for this.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: That's how I got that audition. Like, because I'd written
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: on another show, but like, and I still feel I
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: had an advantage because I grew up here. So I
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: didn't have to figure out how to get to places.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I had a car. I had, you know, like there's
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: levels of all of it and you have to be
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: grateful for everything. And I don't think it's a flex
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: to say, Who cares how you got there? If you
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: have the opportunity, don't waste it. If you have the privilege,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: use it.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: You just have to be good. Be grateful for it.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: You have to be good.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: And then along the way, help some other people to shine,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: But if you're a Nepo baby getting an opportunity and
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: you're not good, like I think Gracie Abrams sucks. She
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: seems like a nice girl, but I think the music's horrible.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: And so it's kind of frustrating watching her. But then
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: when you see other Nepo babies that are thriving and
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: killing it, you're like, all right, good. And can you
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: imagine how much the producers must have been wetting their
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: pants to cast Cindy Crawford's daughter and Richard Gere's son
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: together and have them do scenes and everything? Because Richard
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Gere and Cindy Crawford were married in the 90s.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Were they married or did they just date?
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: They were together. I think they were married.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: I feel like briefly.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: They were together for a while, yeah. Well, they were
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: definitely together. It was like a high-profile 90s hot romance.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Yes. And so you wanted to ask me about Now,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: the year of this is he's a senior in 1981. Yes. Now,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: I was not a senior in 1981. I would have
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: been 10.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: But I had older siblings who were in high school
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: at that time, and I did live in the Valley,
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: which is L.A. proper.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: And you came of age throughout the 80s.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: And I came of age in the 80s and all
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: of that. So definitely the convertible Mercedes, that was a
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: sign that your family made it. And oh, there's this
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: one scene. So they're at this fancy school and and Kyra,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Kyra Gerber's character is the student body president, which is believable.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: And what was not believable is when she goes, oh,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: I talked to the principal today and he wants me
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: to throw a party for this new student because he
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: was like in a mental institution before. And I mean,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: I do know what I'm going to say. You might
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: have not caught it. So she's in what is supposed
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: to be the principal's office, which is a big fancy
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: office because it's a rich school. It's Harvard Wesleyan. And
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: he comes around. He's like, I want you. And she's
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: like this. There is no way in a billion years
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: that a kid who was student body president in 2026
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: or 86 or 76 would ever be sitting like this
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: with their leg up and their knee socks on. And
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, who thought of that? I need to know.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: These are the things that I need to ask. Was
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: that Ryan Murphy's idea? Was that her idea? How did
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: someone go, there's no way that she would do that?
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Unless she's trying to fuck the principal. If that comes
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: later in the show that they're fucking, then I will say, okay,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: that was okay.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: So not even a rich kid that's out partying and
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: doing coke and everything would have the balls to sit
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: like that in the office?
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: No, never ever in 1981. No, not true.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: Well, the show is extremely kind of like heightened and stylized.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's very soapy and over the top, you know,
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: even like the mirrors in there. I think one of them,
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: the mom, she has like a big pink clamshell mirror
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: and it's like the old like Shalimar bottles and everything.
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: Like it's so old school.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: I love all of that kind of stuff is sort
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: of fun, like with it. And it's like, and it's
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: so interesting because like I'll follow like some accounts that
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: or like there's an estate sale and it'll be like,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: like a woman that's now probably, you know, 78 or eight.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: That was like that mom in the eighties that had
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: all the, that was the chicest woman, you know, around
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: like that was friends with Kris Jenner, you know, like
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: back in the day. And like, this is what their house,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: you know, this is a, they still have all these
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: items and like now everybody wants these items and they
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: want their house to look, you know.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: From that era.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: So I think that's all, I think that's all really fun.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: The show looks beautiful and it's, and it's filmed in LA.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy. They almost didn't film it in
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: LA and Ryan Murphy had to like put his foot
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: down and be like, the whole show was about that.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: But it's nice to see LA in a positive light.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: Cause I just feel like there's so much now you
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: turn on the news and they're like, there's crackheads everywhere.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: And it's, you know, it's like Mad Max and, It's
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: cool to see something that shows L.A. very glamorous and fun.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: So one of the things that really did affect L.A.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: a lot that has to do with this, that this
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: will be knowledge that most people don't have, is they
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: did this thing from 1978 to like it bled into
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: the early 80s where they had a thing called a busing.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: And there was some like there was a lawsuit within
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: the city saying And they said, okay, we're going to
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: take kids. Like your high school could be like down
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: the street from you. And they're like, you're going to
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: get on a bus and you're going to go to
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: South Central and you're going to go to school there.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: And we're going to take kids from South Central and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: we're going to bring them to Woodland Hills.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: And there's nothing you can do about it.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: That's it. To like mix up the different socioeconomic groups. Okay.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: But you're putting people on a bus for two hours
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: when you're paying for taxes for your school down the street.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: And it, set the private school world in the San
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Fernando Valley on fire. I mean, these schools that were
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: suffering to get people were like 500 people trying to
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: get 90 spots. That is what broke up LA public
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: schools and made it such an economy of where everyone goes,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: you gotta go to private, you gotta go private. Because
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: after that, even when it stopped, they never gained those
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: people that left. They'd already gone to the Catholic schools
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: or the private schools and then their younger siblings. And
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: then they never sent their kids to public school. And
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: that is something that is very interesting. So at that time,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: it was like, That's when it started. So it's like
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: they were the only like those kids were the ones
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: going to private school. But a lot of kids would be,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't a bad thing to be at
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: the public school. Yeah. And then it was like, oh,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: you peasant, like you better be in. And so I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: thought that was kind of interesting and kind of seeing
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: like his perspective of the rich and how they talk
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: about different schools and things like that. That's what like
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: really interested me.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: Do you feel like, do you feel like growing up
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: in LA in the eighties was like the best time
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: to grow up? Cause I feel like everyone, as they
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: get older, they always think that whatever their coming of
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: age time was, was like the best, you know? But like,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: do you look back? Do you think that was the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: best era? Do you compare it to your kids now?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: No uh i don't think it was the best i
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: think it was fucking scary okay because there was hitchhiking
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: so people would hitchhike and get killed oh yeah so
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: i do like that it's like he kind of took
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: all that crime and created a.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: Story manson murder stuff in there and everything.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: People were kidnapped people were killed you you had a
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: harder time finding those people because there was no like
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: tracking their phones or megan's law or anything like that
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: and then there was um And people would say, oh,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: they're just a runaway, so you wouldn't know. And, I mean,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: I'm now, like, I'm thinking about this. And, yeah, I
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: think it was, like, and people didn't know, like, how dangerous,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: you know, drugs could be. Like, the way they're, like, smoking, like,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: doing coke and stuff all the time. Like, that seemed
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: to be, like, glamorous and fun.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Kids don't do that now.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: No, people didn't ride bikes with helmets. Yeah. People, like, kids, like, die. Like,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like, I knew, like, several families where, like,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: a bad car accident would happen or something, and it
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: was like.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: But it's like Zoomers now, Gen Z, don't have sex,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: don't do drugs, don't really, you know, party. I mean,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: remember Brandy Glanville came out recently, and she's like, I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: wish my kid would do some coke or something. It's
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: so boring. She's obviously joking, but, like, there is a thing,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: and even Ryan Murphy, who's doing the Shards, he said
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: that he didn't make the show that sexual compared to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: like a euphoria because Gen Z now are like, they
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: don't like to see sex on TV. They freak out.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: They're like, why is there a sex scene in this?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Well, like it's weird to see like a cut, like
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: how old they act. Yeah. But that was what they,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: that's the way people acted. Like, like there were like
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: serious couples that were like in high school, like.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: Where you're like, you're going to get married.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Like they're, yeah. They're like wearing shoulder pads and like,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Like I remember like one time I went over to
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: this guy asked me out. He picked me up and
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: we went to this other person's house and the girl
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: had made me the whole meal. And then like when
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: I was like in college, like when I went to college,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: this girl had her own apartment. Like we were in
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: the doors and she had her own apartment and she
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: had just like made a fabulous meal for like her
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: 26 year old boyfriend. I'm like, what is going on?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Like you're 18. Like, I don't know. It was just, yeah.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Like people just acted like, They looked older. Like, haven't
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: you seen when people say, why does everyone look like
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: 35 when they're like, this is what high school looked like? Everyone, like,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: looked old and dressed older and acted older. And bullying
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: was really acceptable. And some people would say, oh, maybe
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: that's why we are the way we are, whatever. And
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: why we're nicer to our kids. Because, like, it was
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: so awful. But, yeah. I mean, but also, like, yes,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: there was no... there was no social media to like
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: haunt you forever.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: True, yeah.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Just your own vision of waking up and going, oh God,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: Speaking of looking older, by the way, one last thing.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: Kaya Gerber does not look like a high school senior
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: in this show. She looks like 28. How old is
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: she in real life? 24, I think, or 23.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Well, again, like it is kind of interesting when you
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: see someone that's like that, like even, you know, and
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: they don't, and they have wrinkles in their forehead.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: Because- And she wears heavy makeup. She wears very heavy
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: makeup in it. I'm just looking up her exact age. Yeah,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: she does not pull off being a high school student. Yeah. Whatever,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: my internet's not working here. But, you know, I love
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: the show.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Do you remember when she dated Pete Davidson? Did she?
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: Was she one of the many?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, when she was, like, 18 and he was, like,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: a total drug addict. And I remember, like, the parents
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: had to, like, go and, like, rescue her because he was, like, suicidal.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: And I'm just thinking, God, they were probably just, like,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: please don't have him influence you and start getting tattoos
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: or get pregnant.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Where you're just like praying that your child does not
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: end up with someone like that.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: I thought he was hot though. I liked him when
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: he was tattooed and on drugs. So I get it.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Well, now he's a single dad. He's not with the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: woman and he's getting the tattoos removed.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: And shame.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Is he particularly funny or talented?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: I didn't, I don't know. I don't think that many.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: I think I said to you once, I said, Heather,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you and Meg Stolter are like the only
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: people I think are funny.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: You're obsessed with Honey Boo Boo's sister, Pumpkin, joining OnlyFans.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: And you literally kept saying, we have to talk about this.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: We have to talk about Pumpkin. I'm like, I like.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with the whole Honey Boo Boo. I still
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: watch the Mama June show. Like, cause you remember, I.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Never watched it. I always, I've honestly, I'm not into
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: like people like that.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: You don't like the white trash.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: I love them.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: I think it's, I like it.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: There's something for everybody. And I think she, you know,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: had to be on TV all those years. She probably
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: wasn't in charge of her paycheck. If some weird guys
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: like her and will pay for her content and she
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: can stay at home.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: Well, she's been on television now for like, I don't know, 10,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: 15 years, and they don't have that much money. And
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: she said that she's making more money doing OnlyFans now
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: than she did from her entire reality TV career for
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: over a decade. She made six figures in two weeks.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: And just for people that don't know the backstory, she
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: was married to this guy, Josh. She's 26 now. They
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: have four kids together. And then she also became the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: legal guardian of Honey Boo Boo. Because remember Mama June
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: was on drugs? Because Mama June got a crack problem.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that you're like talking about this
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: as if, I mean, this is, I just can't get
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: into it. I just cannot get into this. And you
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: like just kept pushing it. I'm like, we're putting it
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: towards the end of the show. Because then you're also like,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: you have to watch Double Lies.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: And Suburban Lies. Did you watch it?
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: You know what? one of the reasons I stopped watching
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: TLC is I can't, I don't know where to watch
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: it on my streaming service.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, so you didn't watch it?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: And I feel like you're mad, like a teacher. So
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: I went on TikTok and I said, give me some
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: clips of it. So I saw clips of it. Again, not,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: not a, I mean, they're so far from the attractiveness
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: of Mormon wives.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: Like when you're a Mormon wife and you've just eaten
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: apples and like, you know, like those girls are so,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: like pretty to watch. And these women, no offense, they're fine.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: They're fine. They're older, but like, it's weird that they're
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: like doing the same, like, like.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: They have, they have. Okay. So this, this show, just
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: for people.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: That don't know, like a team over team, you, what
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: is it? It's the team version of Mormon. Yeah.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: So it copies the title. This is double lives of
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: suburban wives. They have their own mom talk called MILF House.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: They yes they do only fans all right and um
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: they're all christian and so there's a lot of like
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: christian st louis yeah but it's in like a smaller.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Show with justin bateman about people who live in st
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: louis who are swingers.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, one of them's a swinger, I think, because her
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: name's Erica Swings. Oh. That's her TikTok name? Yeah, that's her, like,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: OnlyFans name.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, I started to, so when I was on
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: to it, I started to see some of them, and they're, like,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: coming to LA, and, you know, they're so excited, and
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: they're so, you know, not your typical looking influencer type
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: of people. So there's something kind of fun that I'm, like,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: they have like nothing to lose and they're so excited
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: just to be famous. I mean, they're like having sex
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: with their husband or whatever on while their kids are
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: at school. And they're like, yeah, we'll do a TLC
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: show on top of it. Like the whole thing is like,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: and they're like, well, we're doing that so that people,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: we can get rid of this stigma. And they know
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: that mommy likes to do it and certain things go
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: in her and they still come out and they need
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: to understand that. Like literally one of them said that.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, I just don't think I'm
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: going to be watching this show. I'm sorry, Jacques. I'm sorry.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: Can I just give you a little brief on one
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: of them? One of them, her dad is a Christian
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: pastor at the church. And she's been doing OnlyFans, but
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: she wears a wig and glasses.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: So people in the community don't recognize her.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: But she's got cameras following her.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: Like, it's so stupid.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Like, how dumb do you think we are?
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: But the dad thinks she's just doing a show about
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: moms in Missouri.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Until this week.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: And then they pray over her. And then she's in
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: the confessional saying to the producers, she's just like, you know,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know how I'm going to tell my dad.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: He's going to be devastated that I'm on OnlyFans.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: I don't, yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I mean, we
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: know they make $ 2 off of this thing. Well, the
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: main girl. But they like to be, yeah.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: The main girl that put it together, I looked her up.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: She barely had any followers. Like, I don't think she's big.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of them don't have many followers.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: No, but she makes out like, well, I have this
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: double life of I'm on OnlyFans. And I'm like, I
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: think she just, because for people that don't know, to
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: make money on OnlyFans, you already have to have like
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: a big Instagram or a TikTok or whatever to like
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: get the subscribers over. Yeah. She didn't have any of that.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: So I think she's literally just some random woman in
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: Missouri that opened OnlyFans and went to TLC.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: And said, hey, I want to do a show about
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: moms doing OnlyFans. And then they just copied Mormon Wives
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: and here we are. I think you picked the hottest couple,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: by the way.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you did.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: I couldn't put any of the other ones. I was like,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: I got to pick like the cutest girl for the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: screen because– Well.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: They do it together. Oh, one other thing I want
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: to add. When you watch the show, it's all of
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: their husbands that get them to do OnlyFans originally. They're
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: all just normal moms, and the husbands are the ones
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: that are like, hey, you should post an ass pic.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: I came across this one girl on TikTok, and she goes,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: so I live in St. Louis, and two of my
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: teachers are on OnlyFans, which are now they are on
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: But they're feuding.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: So these two girls were– two women were teachers, and
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: they decided– screw teaching, let's do this. And the husband
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: lost the job. And so it's like all the husbands
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: are like, what do we care?
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: But I always just.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: Think there's the level of the only fans. Like there's,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: you know, wearing sexy stuff and maybe showing like your nipples.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: And then there's like.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: Doing it all, doing it all.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: And so it's like, I'm always like, well, can we
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: just have like a level of it? Like I'm a
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: level two only person, but she's 11th floor. Like, I
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: need to know. Like, are you having sex with other
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: men in your bedroom when your kids are in school?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: These two are. They're both on OnlyFans, so they do
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: it together. But, you know, and Pumpkin does it with
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: her boyfriend. Pumpkin's a level 10. She said on a
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: podcast that she said she wanted to send bodily fluids
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: in the mail, but OnlyFans doesn't let you, so she can't.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: It's against the guidelines.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes people are like, are we currently in hell? Like, possibly.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: Well, you know.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: So back in the 80s.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: You didn't have OnlyFans.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: No, you had to go and be picked up by
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: a pimp who then made you do porn in a
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: hothouse in the valley with no air conditioning. Yes. So
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: in my day.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: And then you'd end up dead at 25.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. You'd end up dead. And you hated it.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: You were not a happy hooker. You didn't want to
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: be there, and you had to do it anyway. And
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: then if you made it through that, you too then
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: had to become a realtor. Everyone has to become a realtor,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: a podcaster, or OnlyFans, or all three. All three.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: We got invited to an adult party in the Hollywood Hills,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: and I'm trying to convince you to go too.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: It's a big, lavish party.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: Mansion with with porn stars in the hills and we
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: invited brandy and julie and janet from the valley.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Then you sent me this thing though and i have
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: to like fill out a registration form.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: You're not registered yet i can't i just well they
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: have to approve you it's a it's a very exclusive
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: porn party.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: Uh i just remember back in the day i was
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: like in brentwood and this guy's like do you want
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: to go to the avian awards or whatever And I was, like, again, like,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: very curious. And I'm like, yeah, I think I would.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I think I'd like to see what this is about.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: And so I ended up going to some of those things.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: So you've been before.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Well, I just remember I wore, like, a normal outfit. Like,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: I wasn't, like, a little black dress on, but it wasn't, like,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: super skimpy. And I wasn't famous at all. I was, like,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: just starting out, like, trying to, whatever, do stand-up or something.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: And I saw, like, the ugly fans, you know, with, like,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: the big. you know, their big cameras all excited me.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: And I remember this one guy goes, can I take
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: a picture of you? And I was like, yeah. I
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: remember I was just like, oh my God, I can't
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: believe that they like think that I'm like one of
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: the porn stars. And I was like totally posing for
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: these photos. Like absolutely. Like I loved, I always wanted
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: to be famous no matter if it was porn or
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: when I was on studs.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, you're complaining about having to fill out
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: an RSVP. Whereas when you used to go to the,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: playboy mansion didn't you have to have recent Polaroids and
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: then if your friend wasn't hot enough she would get
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: turned away and now you're upset once I got.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Into the first one then they invited me to the
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: next one which was fine and the next one they
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: would take a photo to make sure that you're still
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: hot to be invited to the next one but if
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: I wanted to bring someone I had to mail in
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: a photo of them And yeah, so you're right. It was,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: it was a, yeah, it was a, they just want
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: to make sure that you like still were like the
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: love or whatever. Yeah.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: Well, I do think that it's a little more equitable now,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: like the industry, you know, like I think there's all different,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, pumpkins make you millions. So I think it's
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: great that.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: It's not just a certain type and then it's not just,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: you know, one person make it like those porn stars
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: back in the day. Once they were like reality stars.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Once you get paid that once amount, that's it. Yeah.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: We can make this video 8 billion times and people
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: can buy it and we're going to get the money
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: and you're not going to get a dollar. And then
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: some of those old porn stars started to then do
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: their own movies, start their own production company, all that.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, that was the move, wasn't it?
• 1:16:43
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