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Katie Woolf spoke with The Big Issues with Damian Hale and Mix104.9s News Director Matt Hepworth · 360 with Katie Woolf

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Speaker 1: Hello, Katie Wolf and three point sixty online at Mixed
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Speaker 2: not not to be mistaken for Wednesday like I did
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Speaker 2: last week, because joining us in the studio for the
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Speaker 2: Big Issues, which is brought to you by Kolano Community
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Speaker 2: this morning a gentleman who's not so big May Worth,
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Speaker 2: our news director.
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Speaker 2: Say, of course, Dad in Heil, good morning you, Yeah, good?
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Speaker 4: How are you?
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Speaker 1: I'm well, I'm well.
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Speaker 6: I've we changed the day so we could so I
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Speaker 6: could get it often and now totally can't get any adelaide.
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Speaker 4: That's all right.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure that we'll get to having both of
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Speaker 2: you in here in the studio more regularly.
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Speaker 4: Hey, let's talk very briefly.
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Speaker 2: I don't really want to talk about local issues too
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Speaker 2: much this morning, but let's very briefly talk about you know,
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Speaker 2: this scandal has been going on for some time now.
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Speaker 2: We heard the opposition leader earlier on the show say
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Speaker 2: that you know, she's calling on the government now to
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Speaker 2: introduce or to implement random drug testing inside Parliament House.
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Speaker 2: I mean, is this something that realistically could happen?
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Speaker 6: Well, drug testings generally from a union perspective as a
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Speaker 6: former official, it's generally around safety that you want people
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Speaker 6: say on an impact site for instance, where they had
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Speaker 6: drug testing and as well as alcohol testing because people
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Speaker 6: are in a high risk environment. So you know, if
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Speaker 6: it reduces the number of paper cuts and people burning
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Speaker 6: their tongue on.
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Speaker 2: Coffee, I guess about the decision making process.
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Speaker 6: And so all right, so you look at it, say
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Speaker 6: organization comes and says they want a drug test. You
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Speaker 6: need to work out, all right, what's the regime look like.
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Speaker 6: Are you're going to test every single person every day?
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Speaker 6: Or is it going to be a random situation.
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Speaker 4: Where you where can the random be the.
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Speaker 1: Go the random could be the goal?
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Speaker 6: Then all right, how are you going to deal with
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Speaker 6: somebody when if they are affected by drugs? Are they
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Speaker 6: Is it a three strike policy or is it a
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Speaker 6: you're out the door immediately. Is their counseling offered? Is
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Speaker 6: their support given to those people around illicit drug use?
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Speaker 6: If that's what's happening. So there's a lot more it's
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Speaker 6: easy to call all right, we're going to blanket drug test.
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Speaker 6: There's a lot more logistics. It's got to be costed out.
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Speaker 6: It's very expensive to do.
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Speaker 2: By not talking about reinventing the wheel. I mean, it
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Speaker 2: happens in lots of other workplaces, doesn't.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well it does, but a lot of those workplace
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Speaker 6: is a high risk. This is drug testing is about safety, right,
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Speaker 6: It's not about social conscience all right, it's about actual
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Speaker 6: safety with people that are doing high risk activities that
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Speaker 6: you don't want them impeded by drugs. Now we're talking
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Speaker 6: about a different you know, a different reason I suppose
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Speaker 6: for doing it here. It's not like people are in
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Speaker 6: a high risk environment. What we're saying and what people
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Speaker 6: are putting a prosecute an argument that they want the
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Speaker 6: decision makers of the Northern Territory and the people at
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Speaker 6: work in the Parliament House, they want them of seend
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Speaker 6: on mind basically, but also as I said, you need
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Speaker 6: to make sure that that you're getting a nice bundle
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Speaker 6: of people that you're coming in to. You know that
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Speaker 6: you're going to have tested if you're going to do this,
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Speaker 6: but you also need to do have what's going to
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Speaker 6: happen down the track in regards to people.
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Speaker 2: That are and if there is somebody struggling.
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Speaker 6: You know, often people don't decide one day that they're
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Speaker 6: going to be illicit drug uses their users there could
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Speaker 6: be an underpinning mental health issue with a person that
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Speaker 6: decides to self meet Kate through using illicit drugs.
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Speaker 1: What sort of supports are we put in in place?
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Speaker 6: Are we going to have a name and shame thing
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Speaker 6: going on where you know, each week on the front
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Speaker 6: page of the local newspaper you have the pictures of
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Speaker 6: people that have tested possitible.
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Speaker 2: Well, look, I don't think it'd be about that, and
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Speaker 2: I think that like you said, you know, obviously the
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Speaker 2: public argument is that you're talking about you know, Parliament House,
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Speaker 2: whether it's here, whether it's in Canberra, no matter where
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Speaker 2: it is, where you expect that those that are making
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Speaker 2: policies for the rest of the Northern Territory are of
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Speaker 2: you know, are not impacted or not affected by any
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Speaker 2: sort of substance. And I think that that's a fair
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Speaker 2: enough point, you know, for Territorians to make. But I
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Speaker 2: certainly take on board what you've said there that you've
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Speaker 2: also got to make sure that you've got procedures and
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Speaker 2: protocols in place, because if you have then got somebody
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Speaker 2: who's done the wrong thing, well what's the process?
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Speaker 4: Are they just going to be sacked or.
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Speaker 3: You know, what would be the go And all those
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Speaker 3: questions we're asking about six months ago when we were
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Speaker 3: talking about the police, about drug test police as well,
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Speaker 3: and all of those questions that you just raised, Hailey,
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Speaker 3: I guess it would be the same across any industry,
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Speaker 3: whether it be in Parliament House, in police, in the
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Speaker 3: private sector. Just out of curiosity, do they do drug
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Speaker 3: testing in Canberra?
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Speaker 6: No, there's no drug testing in canber And you know,
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Speaker 6: I remember when I went down there, this was our
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Speaker 6: alcohol education in Parliament House.
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Speaker 1: The Whip told us, he said, now.
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Speaker 6: Guys, just about alcohol. Be careful with alcohol. You can
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Speaker 6: get away from you. There's a lot of functions and
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Speaker 6: the like. Just be a little bit careful when it
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Speaker 6: comes to alcohol. Now there's drinks in the Prime Minister's
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Speaker 6: courtyard at quarter past six, So that was the alcohol
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Speaker 6: education for us.
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Speaker 1: And there's little you know, pop up, piss up, so
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Speaker 1: you used to.
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Speaker 6: Call them all over Parliament House all the time, every
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Speaker 6: day of the week. So you know, there's no drug
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Speaker 6: testing and I just think you continue to resource the
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Speaker 6: police force and people that have got information around them
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Speaker 6: drug use or people that are purchasing drugs or selling drugs.
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Speaker 1: The police are the people to deal with this.
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Speaker 2: Well, look, there's quite a few text messages coming through
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Speaker 2: on this. There's one that says on drug testing, the
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Speaker 2: fifth floor is working at height. Don't find a reason
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Speaker 2: why it can't be done, find a way to do it,
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Speaker 2: says Barry. And look that's just one of the messages.
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Speaker 2: But I would have to say that they are all
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Speaker 2: very much supportive of it being implemented.
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Speaker 3: Point of alcohol is a really good one as well.
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Speaker 3: You know, I mean that is illegal drug. Obviously we're
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Speaker 3: talking about drug testing for illegal substances. But you know,
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Speaker 3: what would be the difference between someone going out for
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Speaker 3: a boozy lunch, having six beers and then going back
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Speaker 3: to work later that afternoon. You know, are alcohol tests
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Speaker 3: and breath testing them as.
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Speaker 1: Well, like you.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes over the years, you know, there's been discussions about
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Speaker 2: whether people that have a couple of drinks and then
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Speaker 2: be you know, when Parliament's sitting late at night and
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Speaker 2: then you're sort of in there if you've had a
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Speaker 2: couple of drinks. I know, Hailey, you've been in parliament
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Speaker 2: in Camber Moore, I had a.
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Speaker 6: Rule that I wouldn't have anything to drink if I
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Speaker 6: had to go back into the chamber, and.
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Speaker 4: It's a really good rule and everyone that rule.
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Speaker 6: I admit that there was nights where you know, things
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Speaker 6: would go, stay out a lot later than you'd want to,
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Speaker 6: and the next day you'd you'd turn up and you
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Speaker 6: wouldn't be feeling one hundred percent Even now when I
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Speaker 6: don't drink that often at the moment, so you still
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Speaker 6: feel that dusty feeling if you have a couple of drinks.
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Speaker 6: But you know, I think alcohol is probably still the
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Speaker 6: biggest issue in community by far up here, and we're
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Speaker 6: probably talking about a small portion of people that indulge
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Speaker 6: in illicit drug activity that work on the fifth floor,
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Speaker 6: work in a government department. It'll be interesting, you know,
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Speaker 6: from a union perspective, what the CPS used would be
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Speaker 6: And if we've spoken to the CPSU, because many of
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Speaker 6: their members would possibly them in united voice with security
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Speaker 6: guards and cleaners and those type of people, what sort
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Speaker 6: of views the union's got on drug testing and whether
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Speaker 6: or not they'd you know, they'd have to be consulted
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Speaker 6: and represent the views of their membership. So will it
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Speaker 6: be interesting to see what their view is about their
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Speaker 6: members having to be drug tested to work in parliament House.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's move along and talk about the other really
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Speaker 2: big news story of the week, and that is the
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Speaker 2: vaccine roll out. And I guess most people are pretty
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Speaker 2: much feeling, you know, feeling pretty positive about this vaccine
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Speaker 2: rollout and what it's going to mean for Australia in
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Speaker 2: terms of being able to open back up. Unfortunately, though
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Speaker 2: we have seen around the nation that there's been hundreds
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Speaker 2: rally well, I guess you'd say maybe even thousands when
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Speaker 2: you talk about every state, and Victoria's Chief of Health
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Speaker 2: Officer Bret Sutton has assured the public that well, those
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Speaker 2: that anti vaxxas are a small minority. As hundreds rallied
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Speaker 2: in capital cities around Australia, multiple people were arrested at
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Speaker 2: a Melbourne rally on the weekend amid clashes with the police,
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Speaker 2: while protesters also marched through the Sydney CBD and large
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Speaker 2: groups gathered in Brisbane and Adelaide. Now I've got to
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Speaker 2: say I've heard pretty loudly and clearly from health professionals,
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Speaker 2: because I think that, you know, when you're talking about
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Speaker 2: a message deliver from politicians, sometimes people are not as
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Speaker 2: quick to actually believe everything that Polly say. But we've
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Speaker 2: heard from you know, the AMA doctor Robert Parker. We
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Speaker 2: spoke yesterday to another medical professional. I've spoken to quite
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Speaker 2: a few of them who have said, you know, if
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Speaker 2: you're worried about it, speak to.
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Speaker 4: A medical professional.
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Speaker 2: Do not get your information from you know, from Facebook,
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Speaker 2: or from different, you know, different sort of unverified locations
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Speaker 2: on the internet when you're talking about this vaccine. But
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Speaker 2: I've got to say, what I've been quite surprised by
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Speaker 2: is that there's heads of just you know, regular Territorians,
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Speaker 2: regular Assies who are feeling a little bit worried about
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Speaker 2: the vaccine. I don't think that it's because they're anti
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Speaker 2: vaxers or anything.
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Speaker 4: They just sort of want.
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Speaker 2: To see how it rolls out and what some of
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Speaker 2: those side effects are, well, you.
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Speaker 1: Know the flu injection.
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Speaker 6: We as our council, as an Alderman, we get a
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Speaker 6: flu injection where we're going to functions or we going
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Speaker 6: to council events, we're amongst the public. You're shaking hands
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Speaker 6: and kissing babies and all those sort of things. I
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Speaker 6: think the rolling out of the vaccine obviously it's failed
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Speaker 6: or Australians first and the most vulnerable Australians and frontline workers.
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Speaker 6: But I fully support people's right to protest and if
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Speaker 6: they don't want to get a vaccine. But I also
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Speaker 6: support Quanas's position that if they haven't been vaccine, you're
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Speaker 6: not allowed on their planes. If sporting organizations decide or
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Speaker 6: the Major Code say well, if you can't prove you've
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Speaker 6: been vaccine, you're not allowed to come to the games.
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Speaker 6: And hospitals and schools that will turn people away because
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Speaker 6: they haven't had a vaccine. I think the greater good
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Speaker 6: here is to get everyone to have the vaccine so
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Speaker 6: that we're not going through what we've been through for
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Speaker 6: twelve months. I find it passing strange that Victorians would
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Speaker 6: be protesting after they've come through the harshest lockdowns over
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Speaker 6: the last twelve months. So I think the majority of
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Speaker 6: Victorians will be saying, give me an opportunity to have
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Speaker 6: the vaccine.
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Speaker 1: I want to get my life back to some sort
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Speaker 1: of normality.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting though, And Mattie, I don't know whether you've
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Speaker 2: experienced this yourself, but I know even amongst my own family,
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Speaker 2: you know, there's certain members of my family who are
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Speaker 2: more than happy to go and get that vaccine. Others,
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Speaker 2: you know, like my mum, for example, who is a
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Speaker 2: health professional, said you know, yes, we all need to
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Speaker 2: make sure that we get it. And she's based in
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Speaker 2: a remote community where obviously they need to make sure
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Speaker 2: that people out there are safe, as they're the most
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Speaker 2: vulnerable in many cases if you've got a chronic illness
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Speaker 2: or an underlying health issue.
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Speaker 4: But then there's also you know, other members.
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Speaker 2: Of my family have sort of gone, oh, hang on
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Speaker 2: a second, I'm not rushing out to get something until
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Speaker 2: I see how it goes on everybody else.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, sorry, Maddy Honis.
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Speaker 6: I'd just add that I'm sort of not in the
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Speaker 6: in the category has been most at risk, so I
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Speaker 6: certainly will be waiting my turn. I look at it
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Speaker 6: more like weight in my turn, like you know, I
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Speaker 6: would be more interested to make sure that the older
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Speaker 6: Australians have got it. I work in remote communities. Probably
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Speaker 6: I should be on the list of people because I
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Speaker 6: do go. I'm going to gamble on you tomorrow and
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Speaker 6: Man and Greta on Thursday. So you know, I'm out
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Speaker 6: there amongst people that have got very complex health problems,
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Speaker 6: and you know, you'd hate to be the guy that
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Speaker 6: took it to Aboriginal community and had people pass away
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Speaker 6: because of it. So you know, but I'm more inclined
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Speaker 6: to say, well, you know, when it gets to me,
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Speaker 6: I'm just happy to get it done my part. And
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Speaker 6: I think that, you know, after what we've seen happen
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Speaker 6: down South or even if you look at other countries,
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Speaker 6: and we're in a really unique position here in Australia.
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Speaker 6: We haven't been impacted nearly as badly as the rest
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Speaker 6: of the world, and we're going to have enough vaccines
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Speaker 6: for everyone.
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Speaker 1: To have about three or four gays at it.
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Speaker 6: So you know, I think that, you know, I just
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Speaker 6: wanted to play my part and trying to move on,
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Speaker 6: you know, trying to make you.
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Speaker 1: I said, you so I'm pro vaccine, and I say,
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Speaker 1: jab me up. And I'm I'm ready.
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Speaker 3: To go, but it will be the issue around those
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Speaker 3: terms and conditions that I can understand people that may
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Speaker 3: have concerns and that the small minority that are anti vaxes.
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Speaker 3: But as you said, Haley, it will come down to
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Speaker 3: places that have terms of conditions of entry that you
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Speaker 3: have to have the vaccine. And I didn't realize until
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Speaker 3: about a week ago that you actually need a current
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Speaker 3: flu JAB to get into a nursing home or age
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Speaker 3: care facility.
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Speaker 2: Exactly which it every year.
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Speaker 4: Doesn't bother me, you know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd never have one. I managed to scramble to
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Speaker 3: get one on Wednesday afternoon in Adelaide before going to
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Speaker 3: visit my grandparents in a nursing com home twenty four
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Speaker 3: hours beforehand. And you know, on a completely different side note,
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Speaker 3: say if you go to some nightclub venues and that
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Speaker 3: kind of thing as well, they are completely bound by
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Speaker 3: the terms and conditions that you have. Sometimes you can't
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Speaker 3: go in.
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Speaker 2: If you've got space, that's.
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Speaker 4: Where you're going to get Maddie Hepworth. If you've got
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Speaker 4: to be Va, I've.
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Speaker 3: Got I've got the COVID vaccine, but I can't get
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Speaker 3: him with my necktatty.
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Speaker 4: I tell you what, it's an interesting one.
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Speaker 2: And like I said, I know that there's plenty of
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Speaker 2: people that are feeling sort of a bit apprehensive. But
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Speaker 2: I do think that as this rolls out, and as
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Speaker 2: we hear from different medical professionals and people that actually
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Speaker 2: work in the health sector saying to us, you know.
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Speaker 4: This is all good.
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Speaker 2: There are you know, these mild side effects or whatever
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Speaker 2: those side effects may be, We're able to make those
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Speaker 2: more informed choices.
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Speaker 6: And how much work's gone into these facstaff. You've had
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Speaker 6: doctors working, scientists working around the clock around the world.
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Speaker 1: You know. I know Dave still thinks this is nothing
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Speaker 1: more than a common clay.
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Speaker 4: He'll be no worries, He'll get he's.
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Speaker 1: Started a change.
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Speaker 6: I reckon he's moving off Sweden's way of dealing with it.
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Speaker 6: It's taken him twelve months. I shouldn't I shouldn't talk
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Speaker 6: poorly of my friends to defend himself.
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Speaker 1: But Sweden has had a shocker me.
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Speaker 4: And he was saying that was the way to go.
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Speaker 6: Remember he used to defend Sweden. Even Sweden were ringing
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Speaker 6: up telling us not.
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Speaker 1: To let him talk about the sweeten.
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Speaker 6: The health minister was going out apologizing to the public,
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Speaker 6: and Dave still defended.
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Speaker 4: Much lighter note.
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Speaker 2: Maddie Hepworth raised this yesterday. Obviously the Prime Minister Scott
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Speaker 2: Morrison went and got his vaccine and he went with
15:17
Speaker 2: the older Jane, the older lady, and he said, go on, Jane,
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Speaker 2: do the V for vaccine vaccine, but she twisted it around.
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Speaker 4: He just got older.
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Speaker 2: Then she doubled down and did a Sky News interview
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Speaker 2: and they said Laura Jays, the Sky News host said
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Speaker 2: to her, oh, Jane, I won't ask you to do
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Speaker 2: the V for.
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Speaker 4: Vaccine and she goes, no, I'll do it again.
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Speaker 2: And then she also admitted that she didn't know who
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Speaker 2: Scott Morrison was.
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Speaker 4: I just reckons gold.
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Speaker 1: Obviously she might be a good labor girl.
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Speaker 4: Any opportunity.
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Speaker 6: But I saw a great meme where had the nurse
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Speaker 6: about to put it in? And she goes, I just
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Speaker 6: mind the pre and that was and Jane goes, there's
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Speaker 6: a voice thing comes out and goes, oh, no, it's
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Speaker 6: all good.
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Speaker 1: He'll leave once the photo is taken. Ill Morrison from
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Speaker 1: marketing from.
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Speaker 6: Marketing rocks up to an elderly Australian who doesn't miss anything.
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Speaker 6: She knows exactly what's going on. She's just sitting there thinking, well,
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Speaker 6: no chance of seeing this bloke ever.
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Speaker 1: I know who he is, but I want to pretend
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Speaker 1: I don't. And then when they asked me to be
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Speaker 1: like a trained monkey and do this one, I just
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Speaker 1: go that one.
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Speaker 6: You know, I.
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Speaker 2: Agree, And I just love it when you know when
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Speaker 2: Aussie's get a little bit older, and I know my
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Speaker 2: grandmother reached this point as well, where she just didn't
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Speaker 2: really care, you know, dangerous.
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Speaker 6: And then you throw Facebook and a couple of glasses
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Speaker 6: of wine if you're talking about drug testing.
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Speaker 4: Looking about yourself, not me.
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Speaker 6: I haven't got a Facebook page, but I know people
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Speaker 6: that need to have a breathalyzer on their Facebook.
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Speaker 4: I agree with you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thing, and you're over point oh five. You can't drive.
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Speaker 2: No drinking and facebooking, There's no doubt about that, Hailey.
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Speaker 2: I've got a message here from one of our listeners
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Speaker 2: asking if the opportunity arises, would you put your hand
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Speaker 2: up for blame?
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Speaker 6: No, no, I thought that person was befriend No. I've
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Speaker 6: done me, I've done that time, I've done all that.
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Speaker 6: I'm happy being on the council at Palmerston. I live
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Speaker 6: in Palmerston. I think Palmerston's the place which is really
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Speaker 6: set to boom?
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Speaker 1: And have I ever mentioned the recreational lab?
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Speaker 6: Oh?
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Speaker 4: God stop.
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Speaker 7: So it's not Haley's laugh called something else. I'm just
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Speaker 7: saying no to thing.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate your ling that out. I appreciate that. Now.
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Speaker 2: I want to just take you across to this story,
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Speaker 2: which I find quite a funny one. Maybe I shouldn't,
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Speaker 2: but Manly's Tom Travoyevich Deny's vision of him running through
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Speaker 2: the corso in Manly on Saturday night was responsible for
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Speaker 2: the hamstring injury that has rubbed him out for six
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Speaker 2: weeks now. The Sea Eagles star fronted the media after
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Speaker 2: it was revealed that he'd suffered a Grade two tear
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Speaker 2: from what the club described as an innocuous accident.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 2: He claimed that he suffered the injury after slipping in
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Speaker 2: the shower and apologized to his Seagles fans.
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Speaker 4: We've all been there, you know, drinks, done something, a.
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Speaker 6: Bit, do that, and as a coach, you're just pulling
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Speaker 6: your hair out obviously, like you're just going Tommy, Tommy, Tommy.
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Speaker 6: He woke up and he had a Grade two hamstring strain.
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Speaker 1: When he went to bed it was fine.
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Speaker 2: Then on to TV this morning, ben Fordham actually interviewed
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Speaker 2: the bloke that he raced up the streets and the
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Speaker 2: bloke and ben Fordham goes to him, well, who what
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Speaker 2: the other guy goes while I did, I beat him,
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Speaker 2: So that's the race.
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Speaker 6: And he's out for six possibly six weeks. They're saying, yeah,
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Speaker 6: but you.
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Speaker 2: Know, I mean, honestly, how this young fella he's not
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Speaker 2: very old. He was here a couple of years ago
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Speaker 2: for the for the World Cup. Remember when the r
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Speaker 2: and I am seid something and had to interview him
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Speaker 2: and he was a really nice young fella and he
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Speaker 2: was very young. You know, you think to yourself, we're
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Speaker 2: talking about these blokes that are in the early twenties.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if the worst you do is pull a
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Speaker 2: handstring while you're raising a general member of the public,
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Speaker 2: I think we're actually doing all right.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he says the real story behind it
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Speaker 3: was a bathroom injury.
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Speaker 4: Truth be told.
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Speaker 3: I would rather say I had a couple of schooners
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Speaker 3: that the pub did someone to race and did it
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Speaker 3: that way.
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Speaker 4: I mean, what did he slipped.
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Speaker 1: In the shower?
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Speaker 2: No, well that's story Kayla, you make a very good point.
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Speaker 2: You know, as a coach, you've got to deal with
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Speaker 2: this type of thing from young players at different times.
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Speaker 2: I know, I know a young player myself who's an
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Speaker 2: unnamed family member who did something.
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Speaker 6: Similar when I was coaching the Saturday night. My two
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Speaker 6: worst nights will be Friday night before the game waiting
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Speaker 6: for blakes that you had to pull out for reasons,
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Speaker 6: various reasons, and then the Saturday night after the game.
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Speaker 6: You won't sleep very well either because you're just waiting
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Speaker 6: for a phone call as that somebody has done something.
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Speaker 6: And even at our level here, you know, we've seen
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Speaker 6: recently players involved and people involved in off field incidents
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Speaker 6: in the club's.
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Speaker 1: Getting pulled into it.
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Speaker 6: More and more volunteers like you know who, our friend
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Speaker 6: Dodgy Mark Dodge from the radio station. So you know,
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Speaker 6: there's more and more scrutiny. Everyone who's got a Facebook
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Speaker 6: account now as a journalist, everyone who's got a mobile
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Speaker 6: loans a photographer so much. And there's footage of Tommy
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Speaker 6: without stretching strength coach.
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Speaker 1: The only saving brace I think here is he's a
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Speaker 1: manly player.
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Speaker 2: So I really don't so we don't care here exactly.
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Speaker 1: Any place for New South Wales.
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Speaker 5: It is.
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Speaker 2: But I want to take you across to camera very
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Speaker 2: quickly because it is being reported that Scott Morrison has
21:23
Speaker 2: sought that Party room endorsement today on a proposal for
21:26
Speaker 2: a modest increase to the doll of up to fifty
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Speaker 2: dollars a fortnight in exchange for stricter mutual obligation conditions
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Speaker 2: around a permanently higher job seeker payment once the one
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars COVID nineteen supplement ends next month.
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Speaker 2: A Labor has flaged that it will support the Morrison
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Speaker 2: government's proposed permanent increase of welfare. So during a caucus
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Speaker 2: meeting a little bit earlier today, the Opposition Social Services
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Speaker 2: spokeswoman Linda Burney said she wanted to see the details
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Speaker 2: about the mutual obligations the Morrison government's permanent welfare rise
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Speaker 2: will be contingent on, but she said it was not
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Speaker 2: the party's intention to stand in the way of welfare
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Speaker 2: recipients receiving additional money. That's according to a caucus spokesperson.
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Speaker 2: So I believe that the doll hasn't gone up for
22:12
Speaker 2: it's been years and years.
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Speaker 4: It's been awfully long time.
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Speaker 2: As I understand it, I always reckon there's a bit
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Speaker 2: of a fine line between, you know, making it too
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Speaker 2: attractive so people don't want to go out and seek employment,
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Speaker 2: and you know, obviously having it too low that people
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Speaker 2: can't afford to live.
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Speaker 4: You've got to reach that middle ground.
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Speaker 3: I think I've been fortunate enough that I've never had
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Speaker 3: to live on welfare, but I think if you ask
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Speaker 3: anyone that has been on it, they say that it
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Speaker 3: is incredibly tough to live off. If it's going to increase,
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Speaker 3: that is good that it comes with those conditions around
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Speaker 3: the mutual benefit agreements, and I think finding that balance
22:43
Speaker 3: where and we've heard anecdotally from police and even ministers
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Speaker 3: up here that when we saw those COVID nineteen welfare
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Speaker 3: payments that there was anecdotal evidence of an increase in
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Speaker 3: antisocial behavior. So I don't think fifty dollars a week
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Speaker 3: is going to create those problems that we heard from
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Speaker 3: those larger chunks of welfare. But yeah, certainly it sounds
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Speaker 3: like it would be welcome for anyone that's on it.
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Speaker 2: Fifty at fortnite, Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I think you can argue over that. Obviously there is
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Speaker 6: going to be an election at some stage this year
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Speaker 6: for the Liberal Party to ever talk about this. They
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Speaker 6: were basically against any increase in the new start allowance
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Speaker 6: and it's long overdue.
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Speaker 1: It should have happened ages ago.
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Speaker 6: It costs money to be unemployed and to be looking
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Speaker 6: for work and having to present yourself to get resumes,
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Speaker 6: go to interviews, travel to interviews, get nice clothes, get
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Speaker 6: your hair done, whatever it is. I'd like to see
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Speaker 6: a raft of changes in this space to help people,
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Speaker 6: particularly young Australians and older Australians. There's a big there's
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Speaker 6: a gap. Then there's people that are over fifty five
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Speaker 6: struggling to get work, and there's people under twenty five
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Speaker 6: that struggling to get work. Raft of incentives, particularly around trades,
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Speaker 6: to give incentives to businesses to put on more trainee.
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Speaker 6: The more apprentices give people opportunities in that space. Make
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Speaker 6: university cheaper so that you know people can go it
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Speaker 6: can afford university.
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Speaker 1: It was always funny Joe Hockey was.
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Speaker 6: The great protester against university fees when he was at university,
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Speaker 6: actually on the stump over twenty dollars admin. But yet
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Speaker 6: they've lifted the cost of getting a degree, so we've
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Speaker 6: got to make it affordable for the exactly different things
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Speaker 6: that could happen.
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Speaker 4: Well, we're going to have to wrap it up. Boys
24:29
Speaker 4: are the big issues of course.
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Speaker 2: Partly brought to you by Kolano Community Association, an Aboriginal loaned,
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Speaker 2: operated and community lead organization from the top End to
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Speaker 2: Tenant Creek. Maddie Hepworth, thank you for joining us.
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Speaker 3: Good on you, Kdan, You're always a pleasure.
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Speaker 1: Never attour.
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Speaker 2: We'll catch you both again. Well, Maddie, we'll catch you
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Speaker 2: again in a few minutes. And Taylee we'll see you
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Speaker 2: next week. Thank you very much. You are listening to
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