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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 206 | Jaguars Outlook After Week 17 Win vs. Colts · Jags A.M.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jags aam another glorious victory Monday in Duval County.
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Speaker 1: We welcome, and I'm Connannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Osier
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Speaker 1: with me today we're going to talk about another Jaguars win.
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Speaker 1: This one was a tough one, but they got it
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Speaker 1: done against the Colts on the road. As we near
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Speaker 1: the end of the regular season, let's get into our
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Speaker 1: big Things today, brought to you by g EH Government
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Speaker 1: Employees Health Association. Big Thing number one is a dozen.
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Speaker 1: This team gets to a dozen wins for the first
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Speaker 1: time in quite a while, and Liam Cohen says, a
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Speaker 1: lot of it goes about taking things one game at
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Speaker 1: a time.
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Speaker 2: We haven't really talked a ton about goals, about the
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Speaker 2: division playoffs, conference, super Bowl, like, we have not had
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Speaker 2: any of those conversations as a team, not really on purpose,
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Speaker 2: more so just because you're really trying to focus on
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Speaker 2: getting better because there's so much the coach off of
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Speaker 2: every week for us, and even through a lot of wins,
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Speaker 2: we're able to coach off a lot of stuff and
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Speaker 2: keeping the mindset pretty singular on want to oh each week.
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Speaker 3: That's just been the mindset of mentality that these guys
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Speaker 3: have had and I've appreciated that, and we've fed off
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Speaker 3: of each other that way.
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Speaker 1: It's just one week at a time, and they finally
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Speaker 1: got to twelve wins, Brian, and this win street continues.
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Speaker 4: To roll on twenty years since they were last a
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Speaker 4: twelve win team. And listen, coaches don't think the way
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Speaker 4: I'm about to talk, but I did not expect them
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Speaker 4: to have a dozen wins on the season, John. I
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Speaker 4: thought nine was probably a huge lift for Liam and
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Speaker 4: his staff in the first year to be where they
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Speaker 4: are right now. Coaches won't ever say this because they're
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Speaker 4: always focused on where they are and getting the job done.
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Speaker 4: But the people who are watching the show, the people
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Speaker 4: who are Jaguars fans, the people in the business side
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Speaker 4: of this equation couldn't have expected it to be where
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Speaker 4: it is right now. It's so much fun at this
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Speaker 4: time of the year to be where this team is,
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Speaker 4: and it's just it's gratifying to see what Liam Cohen
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Speaker 4: has done because I think you recall a meeting in
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Speaker 4: the spring that we were all in where he talked
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Speaker 4: about what he was going to do, and he's done it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they may not have thought about twolve wins because
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Speaker 5: they don't think that way. If you had made them
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Speaker 5: think that way, they wouldn't have come up with twelve
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Speaker 5: as the number.
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Speaker 6: I don't think.
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Speaker 5: Look, yesterday was a remarkable way to get to twelve wins.
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Speaker 5: I think fans of this team are now starting to
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Speaker 5: see again what it's like to be a good team
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Speaker 5: and how you have.
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Speaker 6: To get there.
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Speaker 5: They had had four or four straight fourteen point or
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Speaker 5: more wins.
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Speaker 6: You don't in the NFL.
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Speaker 5: You don't kneel at the end of every game and
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Speaker 5: you're not playing your walk ons. Sometimes they're hard, and
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Speaker 5: yesterday was hard, but they got there, and this, getting
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Speaker 5: ones like this is what eventually gets you into the
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Speaker 5: playoffs where you can peak and maybe start really go.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to our second big thing, which is runaways.
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Speaker 1: We talked about some of the frustration in that game yesterday,
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Speaker 1: some costly turnovers and just frustration in general on both
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Speaker 1: sides of the football, and complimentary football for the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: as a whole. Trevor Lawrence, though, got two rushing touchdowns,
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Speaker 1: which was good enough to help the team get a win.
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Speaker 1: Trevor talked a little bit about the frustration and battling through.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a ton of frustration.
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Speaker 7: Not now, I guess, because you win, and that's what
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Speaker 7: you have to enjoy the wins, because that's you put in.
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Speaker 7: You put in all this work to win games, and
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Speaker 7: it's not always pretty, and I think can be looked
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Speaker 7: at as a positive. As you know, last few weeks,
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Speaker 7: we've been in control of a lot of these games
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Speaker 7: and haven't necessarily had to just go winning at the end,
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Speaker 7: and today we had to do that as a tight game.
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Speaker 7: We had to make some plays, defense had to have
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Speaker 7: some huge stops and they did it. So I think
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Speaker 7: it's it's all good for your team to learn and
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Speaker 7: grow and obviously more fun to learn and grow from wins.
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Speaker 1: John, it was frustrating to watch at times, I will admit,
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Speaker 1: but yes, it is a lot easier to learn from
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Speaker 1: a wins.
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Speaker 8: We can talk about a w and the things to
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Speaker 8: work on, not.
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Speaker 4: Just the lost.
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Speaker 5: Well, I'll go away from Trevor for a second. The
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Speaker 5: Colts are up three to nothing in the first half
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Speaker 5: and then Rivers throws the ball down the middle of
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Speaker 5: the field that the Jaguars defend. It bounces into the
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Speaker 5: air and the Colts caught the ball for the first
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Speaker 5: down win and scored right then. I said, this gonna
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Speaker 5: be one of those games where everything nothing quite went
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Speaker 5: right for the Jaguars, and then the Colts got breaks
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Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, you're playing uphill a little bit.
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Speaker 5: I thought what was impressive, Brian was once they had
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Speaker 5: to play uphill.
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Speaker 6: They got back into it.
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Speaker 5: And then in the second half you always felt like
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Speaker 5: they had a little bit of an edge.
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Speaker 6: They got it tied and they were.
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Speaker 5: Up three, and the Colts never were able to get
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Speaker 5: that advantage when you're in the division on the road.
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Speaker 5: Thank Liam said it in the Raw Ross speech after
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Speaker 5: the game. Guys, this is what it takes to win
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Speaker 5: on the road in the division.
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Speaker 6: They're never easy.
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Speaker 4: Rock, No, they're not. By the way, just to kudos
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Speaker 4: to the guy who caught that ball on the ground
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Speaker 4: providences Will Callery, the son of Mike Mallory, longtime Jaguar
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Speaker 4: special teams coordinator. I said the exact same thing. Oh,
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Speaker 4: it's going to be one of those days. And we
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Speaker 4: talked about the Colts. There's enough weapons there. Philip Rivers
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Speaker 4: may have been a statue, but I mean Alan Pearce
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Speaker 4: and Jonathan Taylor and what they can do. With Josh
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Speaker 4: Downs and Michael Pittman, we knew it was going to
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Speaker 4: be a dogfight, and then I think people maybe forgot.
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Speaker 4: Then Jack's had that emotional, powerful win in Denver, and
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Speaker 4: then two days of your week, guy, are caught up
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Speaker 4: with Christmas, even Christmas Day, and then you're going on
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Speaker 4: the road to a team that has Philip Rivers playing
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Speaker 4: for them, and they are trying to have a positive
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Speaker 4: end of the season. They fear like this is probably
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Speaker 4: that last stand they've got. So it was gonna take
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Speaker 4: everything you had and some things to go right, and
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Speaker 4: just one more thing, the complimentary football thing, John, We've
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Speaker 4: seen that for six or seven weeks. Yesterday we didn't
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Speaker 4: special teams gives up the long kickoff return, then the
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Speaker 4: defense holds, and then the offense drives down the field
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Speaker 4: and turns the ball over. Third quarter, same thing, get
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Speaker 4: the touchdown to go ahead, then you give up the
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Speaker 4: long return and then the defense gives up the eighteen
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Speaker 4: yard play and the pass interference. It wasn't in sync,
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Speaker 4: but they still want ky That's the biggest part of it.
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Speaker 4: They still won on a day that everything wasn't in
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Speaker 4: sync like it had been. The sign of a really
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Speaker 4: good team.
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Speaker 1: Is a win, is a win Our final big thing
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Speaker 1: is going to be I'll take that because we talk
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Speaker 1: about some of the.
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Speaker 8: Errors the States made.
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Speaker 1: They made the plays late when they needed to, whether
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Speaker 1: it was Jarring Jones getting a turnover, or some timely
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Speaker 1: plays or just the coaching at the end when they
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Speaker 1: figure things out. Brian, there was some frustration, but also
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Speaker 1: the takeaways when they needed it and coming up with
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Speaker 1: that big play is part of battling Drew when you're
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Speaker 1: not playing your best.
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Speaker 8: You know.
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Speaker 4: And I don't think we can overlook this story. We
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Speaker 4: can't overhype this. Last year, the defense created eight takeaways
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Speaker 4: and special teams gave them a ninth. That's it, bottom
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Speaker 4: of the barrel in the league. Jiros. The Jaguars now
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Speaker 4: have thirty takeaways, which puts them in elite company in
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Speaker 4: Jaguars history. The ninety nine, the two thousand and seven,
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Speaker 4: and the twenty seventeen teams are the only teams that
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Speaker 4: have it more than thirty. They have twenty one interceptions
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Speaker 4: on the season, second most in the league. John and
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Speaker 4: tied for the most with that twenty seventeen defense that
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Speaker 4: was so good in Jaguars history the things that they
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Speaker 4: have done by taking the bowl away, creating short fields
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Speaker 4: and extra possessions, changing the momentum of the game, as
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Speaker 4: Jarion Jones has done the last two weeks in the
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Speaker 4: fourth quarter. What an exceptional job Anthony Campinealy and this
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Speaker 4: defense have done in taking a weakness, maybe one of
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Speaker 4: the weakest spots of this team last year, and turning
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Speaker 4: it into one of the strongest points this year.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and credit to him because they said early on
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Speaker 5: they were going to stop the run, and they've been
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Speaker 5: the best in the NFL. Is stopping the run. And
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Speaker 5: when you stop the run, what happens. You're in third
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Speaker 5: and long, you're in long distance and long distance situations
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Speaker 5: and where you get takeaways. So you know, it's easy
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Speaker 5: sometimes for people to look at a defense and he
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Speaker 5: gets a lot of takeaways and say, well, those there's
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Speaker 5: a little luck involved. Can you keep that up? Where
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Speaker 5: there's not luck involved is stopping the run, which gets
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Speaker 5: you there. So again, I think yesterday the defense of Romans,
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Speaker 5: even though it's against rivers, shouldn't be overlooked. They got
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Speaker 5: a lot of big stops, gave up two hundred yards,
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Speaker 5: got takeaways.
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Speaker 6: Good game for the defense.
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Speaker 1: On Sunday kipt Jonathan Taylor check as well, so very
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Speaker 1: impressive from the defense. Stay with us here on jag Zam.
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Speaker 1: We're going to look at the highlights after the break.
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Speaker 3: Disappointing, especially when you look at the way we were
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Speaker 3: moving the ball and executing a lot of good things.
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Speaker 3: You look at that first couple of drives. He checked
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Speaker 3: out at zero and number against zero, blitz a number
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Speaker 3: of times and hit big plays, and I thought Charger
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Speaker 3: was seeing it very well. He was getting us in
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Speaker 3: and out of the right plays. We just kind of
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Speaker 3: tricked it off in the red zone a few times.
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Speaker 3: So frustrating. Can't do it. You know, we were seven
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Speaker 3: or fourteen on third down and two of five in
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Speaker 3: the red zone, so that's typically. You know, we've been
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Speaker 3: better in those situations, especially the red zone recently, and
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Speaker 3: today we weren't.
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Speaker 8: I'm back into jag Zam.
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Speaker 1: That's time coach Liam Cohen talking a little bit about
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Speaker 1: some of those red zone turnovers that were costly yesterday.
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Speaker 1: But let's get right into the highlights, because why not.
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Speaker 1: Because things were a little choppy right off the gate,
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Speaker 1: and it was one of those days where Johnny mentioned
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Speaker 1: Brian you two that you kind of felt it right
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Speaker 1: out of the gate, and john is just one of
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Speaker 1: those plays where if it works, it's really cool, and
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Speaker 1: then it didn't work, so it looks a little silly.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think from watching again this morning,
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Speaker 5: it would have been a lot clean or Travis kind
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Speaker 5: of got bumped at the line of scrimmage, which I
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Speaker 5: think threw off Jacoby's timing trying to get him the wall.
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Speaker 6: Look, I got some emails from people that's silly.
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Speaker 5: I hate that, And I was thinking those people probably
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Speaker 5: liked the twenty five points a game for eight games league,
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Speaker 5: And yeah, and that's the sort of aggressive play. You know,
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Speaker 5: you'd say it's trickery, but this offense is all about
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Speaker 5: attacking and about getting guys in situations to win. That
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Speaker 5: was trying to get Travis in a situation where he's
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Speaker 5: one on one over.
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Speaker 6: On the left side of the field and he wins that.
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Speaker 6: So I didn't have a problem with it.
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Speaker 4: You're going after that, I didn't either, because the creativity
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Speaker 4: with which Liam works has been praised so strongly in
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Speaker 4: recent weeks, the way he designed plays. They ran this
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Speaker 4: on the practice field last week, and they ran into perfection.
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Speaker 4: I may be reading too much into it. You mentioned
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Speaker 4: that Travis got bumped at the line of scrimmage. He
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Speaker 4: also appeared as the ball was coming to lift his
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Speaker 4: head to look down the field. I thought he took
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Speaker 4: his eyes off the ball, and it's just that little
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Speaker 4: subtle thing. If he gets that ball cleanly, I think
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Speaker 4: he scores. I think he just races around the corner
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Speaker 4: and then everybody is praising Liam once again. So the
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Speaker 4: aggressiveness with Liam is not going to stop, and I
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Speaker 4: don't want it to. It's one of the big reasons
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Speaker 4: ky why they've won twelve games.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely led to a culse touchdown, so Jack's got down
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Speaker 1: a little bit early. Then Trevor gets his first rushing
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Speaker 1: tie down of the day. It was a little frustrating
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Speaker 1: to see, kind of I felt like Liam talked a
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Speaker 1: little bit about this, felt like everything was going right
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Speaker 1: on the offense, and then.
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Speaker 8: You know, things weren't quite getting there.
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Speaker 1: But Trevor still has the ability to run when he
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Speaker 1: needs to and fake up the linebacker.
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Speaker 4: Artwo favor touchdowns on the year.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and.
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Speaker 5: It was zero passing touchdowns the interception yesterday, so the
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Speaker 5: stat line doesn't look the same. I actually came out
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Speaker 5: of this game with more confidence than I had the
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Speaker 5: last few weeks that he's getting it, because there was
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Speaker 5: nothing yesterday that made me think he wasn't seeing the field.
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Speaker 6: He was making throws.
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Speaker 5: Even the interception late in the first half, I think
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Speaker 5: the read was right. You know, it was Parker and
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Speaker 5: a linebacker. He is playing at a really high level.
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Speaker 5: Won the game yesterday. I think you can forget worrying.
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Speaker 6: About is this a one off? Is this is this whatever?
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Speaker 6: He's he's borderline in that elite group.
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Speaker 5: And I think he showed it again yesterday with the
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Speaker 5: control the offensively I'm talked about it.
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Speaker 4: Well, he listened. He ripped a couple of throws kai,
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Speaker 4: you know, over the outstretched fingers of a safety and
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Speaker 4: a linebacker and put the ball right on target. The
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Speaker 4: one to Parker in the end zone wasn't, but overall,
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Speaker 4: you still see a guy who's lifting his team.
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Speaker 5: We'll tell it this way, like in the off season,
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Speaker 5: right like we got a long way to go for
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Speaker 5: the off season. Is there any by the one that
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Speaker 5: you look at this guy and say they can build
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Speaker 5: around that, and you know a year ago you didn't
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Speaker 5: have that. So again, still, out of all the storylines,
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Speaker 5: Twelben's is great.
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Speaker 6: They've got a quarterback for a.
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Speaker 5: Long time, and it says this franchise up well for
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Speaker 5: a long time.
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Speaker 6: And I believe that more than I did even last week.
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Speaker 1: Talked a little bit about this end zone pick already.
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Speaker 1: But I think what was interesting is he hasn't thrown
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Speaker 1: one in such a long time, right, Brian, I mean
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Speaker 1: that was more. Yeah, we've seen it in the past,
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Speaker 1: and this was you know, you trust your guy park
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Speaker 1: and you think you can go get it, but he
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Speaker 1: hasn't thrown one in Somebody, listen.
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Speaker 4: You saw the one in Cincinnati in Week two, and
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Speaker 4: then he had the one in Vegas right after the
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Speaker 4: bye week, and then the little one was tipped in
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Speaker 4: up in Arizona. He's made great decisions with the ball
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Speaker 4: and that was a play that they beat Jermaine Pratt
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Speaker 4: on in the first game here, and the ball just
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Speaker 4: wasn't placed right. And credit to Pratt, you know he
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Speaker 4: watched the tape too, and he saw a chance to
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Speaker 4: make a play. I didn't I love it, but I
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Speaker 4: didn't mind it as much because he's been saying let
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Speaker 4: it rip and John, if you're going to play the
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Speaker 4: way he's playing, you're gonna have interceptions. It's just a
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Speaker 4: measure of a great quarterback that they're willing to keep
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Speaker 4: throwing the ball, and.
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Speaker 5: He is well so in the NFL out It's not
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Speaker 5: like it boys when I was a kid, where you
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Speaker 5: threw to open receivers. Now you throw to receivers in
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Speaker 5: this situation. I've got Parker on a line back, then
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Speaker 5: that's a matchup advantage. How many times your quarterbacks say
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Speaker 5: I'm going to put the ball on decision to have
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Speaker 5: my guy go make a play. Well, when you're throwing
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Speaker 5: into that every once in a while, you're going to
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Speaker 5: be a touch off with the throw, the receiver is
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Speaker 5: not gonna be able to get back around him. Very
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Speaker 5: few quarterbacks, even the great ones, have gotten their career.
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Speaker 5: They have gotten into their careers with four hundred touchdow
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Speaker 5: no interceptions.
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Speaker 6: It's rare for that to happen.
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Speaker 4: By the way, They've only lost one game, that Bengals
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Speaker 4: game where he threw an interception in the end zone,
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Speaker 4: so he kept battling and they found a way to win.
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Speaker 1: Didn't lose any confidence in one of his number one guys,
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Speaker 1: Parker Washington as well, because Parker once again had a
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Speaker 1: great day and just being that connection build, I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's really become I mean, I know we used to
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Speaker 1: call Christian Kirk kind of the safety blanket for him,
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Speaker 1: but now feels like he has a connection with park
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Speaker 1: to Washington well.
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Speaker 4: And he's the leading receiver in both catches and yards.
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Speaker 4: Who would have thought now, It's not like he's that
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Speaker 4: much further ahead than everyone else, but it speaks to
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Speaker 4: how he has carved a place for himself in this
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Speaker 4: offense and the quarterback trusts him as much as he
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Speaker 4: trusted Kobe Myers.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's made out of rubber.
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Speaker 5: In the first half, when he caught that ball and
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Speaker 5: he's eight feet in the air, he gets bounced, he
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Speaker 5: gets flipped, and he bounces up like now that happened.
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Speaker 5: He's I can't say that I expected him to be
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Speaker 5: this good, but he is showing week after week. There's
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Speaker 5: nothing fluky about Barcara Washington Hill. You compareing to Christian Kirk.
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Speaker 5: I'm not sure that that compares. I think he's surpassing
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Speaker 5: what Christian ever did in this name. And I love
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Speaker 5: Christian Kirk, don't get me wrong, but you know his
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Speaker 5: productivity and as dangerous as he is when he catches
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Speaker 5: the ball, he's turned into a real weapon.
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Speaker 4: I really thought Christian Kirk had great vision. He could
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Speaker 4: see what was in front of him. And that's what
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Speaker 4: I'm noticing from Parker. We've seen the athleticism, we've seen
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Speaker 4: the hands from we've seen the speed. We're now seeing
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Speaker 4: his vision and how he found that cut back lane
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Speaker 4: and he's found others this year and made a play
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Speaker 4: from a play.
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Speaker 1: I've talked to Parker about this too before because I
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Speaker 1: feel like at first, when he was starting out on
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Speaker 1: special teams and maybe earlier in his career, he had
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Speaker 1: to learn as things went along. And he's very appreciative
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Speaker 1: of you know, whether it's Heith farewell on special teams
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Speaker 1: or is coaching and coordinators now letting him learn, because
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Speaker 1: sometimes it's painful, sometimes it doesn't look good. There was
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Speaker 1: times when he doing punk returns and we were like
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Speaker 1: what are you doing? And now you're like, oh, he's
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Speaker 1: working it out and he gets it now, and the
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Speaker 1: ability for him to make explosive plays on this team
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Speaker 1: has really been maybe not underrated, but a huge part
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Speaker 1: of the success they've seen the past couple of weeks.
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Speaker 5: And again back to a point we've hit on the
16:15
Speaker 5: last three or four weeks, but it really feels true
16:16
Speaker 5: right now. Remember six weeks ago, you didn't know who's
16:19
Speaker 5: gonna catch the ball for this tak yes or not?
16:21
Speaker 5: Six that's wrong, but seven.
16:22
Speaker 6: Or eighth the break.
16:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, now you have Parker, BTJ, Britten, Strange, Child Myers.
16:29
Speaker 5: I mean, and you're not worried when you throw Tim
16:31
Speaker 5: Patrick in there.
16:31
Speaker 4: Oh and by the way, you're going to get Travis
16:33
Speaker 4: Hunter back next year. I mean, imagine if you had
16:36
Speaker 4: him on the field right now as well.
16:38
Speaker 5: It is an incredible job of actually seeing your personnel
16:44
Speaker 5: for what it is rather than you thought, rather than
16:47
Speaker 5: what you thought it was going to be, and then
16:48
Speaker 5: maximizing that they made what was clearly a weakness in
16:51
Speaker 5: September a strength of the offense. It's it's one of
16:55
Speaker 5: the stories of this season.
16:56
Speaker 4: Since Ron we were asked the question, I'm sure you
16:58
Speaker 4: guys were too about the Jacobe Myers trade and where
17:01
Speaker 4: it fits in Daguars history. And I thought that you
17:03
Speaker 4: had to look at Marcel Darius in twenty seventeen when
17:06
Speaker 4: the Jaguars traded with buffalover him and recognize what he
17:10
Speaker 4: did to lift that defense to another level. I think
17:12
Speaker 4: you can now say that this trade is the equal
17:15
Speaker 4: or because it involves the quarterback, maybe the best trade
17:18
Speaker 4: in Jaguars history.
17:20
Speaker 1: Absolutely seems to really have unlocked a lot of different
17:22
Speaker 1: things for them on offensive side of the ball. Let's
17:25
Speaker 1: take a little look late we talked about Liam. He's
17:26
Speaker 1: always going to be aggressive and go for it. Went
17:28
Speaker 1: Ford and fourth down, John, I know you're not always
17:32
Speaker 1: a fan of going for it. Would you've taken the
17:33
Speaker 1: point here?
17:34
Speaker 6: You're going forward here?
17:36
Speaker 5: Well, they didn't get Yeah. I think Liam said it afterward.
17:42
Speaker 5: Probably might should have kicked it, but you have Field's position.
17:47
Speaker 5: This is the way the league plays now, and I
17:49
Speaker 5: think he said it after the game. Yeah, in that situation, maybe,
17:52
Speaker 5: But he also wants this team to learn that we
17:56
Speaker 5: are going to dictate what happens in control situations with
18:00
Speaker 5: our offense.
18:00
Speaker 6: So I think if these decisions.
18:05
Speaker 5: Were Willie nelly' brian and be different right, but it's
18:08
Speaker 5: clearly a philosophical approach. This is what we're gonna be guys.
18:11
Speaker 5: We're going to pick up the first downs in that situation.
18:13
Speaker 4: Well, Liam talked last week as they were getting ready
18:15
Speaker 4: to go to Denver about one on one matchups and
18:17
Speaker 4: winning them. And you had a rookie center in Joinamanheim
18:19
Speaker 4: against s Grover Stewart, and he needed the rookie center
18:22
Speaker 4: to win that one on one and he didn't. I'm
18:25
Speaker 4: not saying that play was a failure just because of him,
18:28
Speaker 4: but that's one of the decisions you have to make.
18:30
Speaker 4: You trust your guy, and he sent a strong message,
18:32
Speaker 4: I don't care whether you're a rookie center or Robert Hainsey,
18:35
Speaker 4: I'm gonna trust you to make the play. So in
18:37
Speaker 4: that sense, I think this doesn't hurt. And of course
18:41
Speaker 4: they didn't lose, so we didn't.
18:43
Speaker 5: Also remember at this point there is a little bit
18:45
Speaker 5: of gain awareness involved. The Colts were really not moving
18:50
Speaker 5: the ball very but they had tun of yards offense,
18:52
Speaker 5: they had two on kick returns they got him points,
18:55
Speaker 5: So your percentage of being able to stop them and
18:59
Speaker 5: get back in it made this less risky than had
19:03
Speaker 5: you been playing a team like the forty nine ers
19:05
Speaker 5: of the Bears last night, where they're scoring every possession,
19:08
Speaker 5: I think maybe that there may have been a different
19:11
Speaker 5: maybe a little safe for their first love.
19:13
Speaker 4: Well, just to back that up, he went forward on
19:14
Speaker 4: fourth down there at the end of the game, and
19:16
Speaker 4: Trevor did find the scene and did get the three yards.
19:19
Speaker 4: So it's consistent with who he is and how he
19:22
Speaker 4: wants to play. And you know, we saw him make
19:25
Speaker 4: a decision based on not taking the penalty, based on
19:27
Speaker 4: game management and time as well.
19:30
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what we're talking about when we see
19:31
Speaker 1: big plays from the defense where you don't get on
19:33
Speaker 1: fourth down come back. Jarian Jones gets an interception and
19:37
Speaker 1: John Weed talked a little bit about Jordan Lewis being
19:41
Speaker 1: lost for the season during pregame radio and what a
19:44
Speaker 1: loss that is. But Jarnon jones ascension this year I
19:47
Speaker 1: think has been more than we would have expected.
19:49
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't remember if I wrote it or just
19:51
Speaker 5: thinking of last week, but Jarian his ascension where in
19:58
Speaker 5: years past, if you he was a guy like Jordan
20:00
Speaker 5: Lewis as a hole, there's really not a hole there
20:04
Speaker 5: right now.
20:05
Speaker 6: And I think it's it's.
20:06
Speaker 5: A credit to Jordan Lewis, who we all know is
20:10
Speaker 5: a veteran who has really worked with Jarian. I think
20:13
Speaker 5: it's also a credit to Gian because they brought in
20:16
Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis to play his spot and that could have
20:19
Speaker 5: bothered a lot of guys, and jar And has played
20:22
Speaker 5: his way into UH. He's established much more confidence than
20:26
Speaker 5: they had in him in OTA's in training camp and
20:29
Speaker 5: he's made two plays. Do they win these last two
20:32
Speaker 5: games without his picks?
20:33
Speaker 2: No?
20:34
Speaker 4: Well, I can't say the Broncos maybe, I mean, but
20:36
Speaker 4: but he turned. He sealed the Broncos game, and he
20:39
Speaker 4: turned this one.
20:40
Speaker 5: And she felt bad for him because he probably should
20:42
Speaker 5: have scored, like away from scoring and him talking about
20:47
Speaker 5: a pick six after a game.
20:48
Speaker 6: Would be fun.
20:50
Speaker 4: Everything's wrong with him? Just a thought. He's the guy
20:52
Speaker 4: who was here last year and they've got him playing
20:54
Speaker 4: at a higher level. How about Antonio Johnson. He's got
20:56
Speaker 4: four interceptions, Devin Lloyd has five, but Terrek Brown by
20:59
Speaker 4: mia Out had four PBUs yesterday passes broken up the way.
21:04
Speaker 4: The secondary has risen despite the injuries at various times,
21:07
Speaker 4: and they're getting production. You mentioned Jordan Lewis and Eric Murray,
21:11
Speaker 4: but they're getting production from guys who were here. It
21:14
Speaker 4: just speaks volumes to the coaching staff and the way
21:17
Speaker 4: that they have taken what they had and made something
21:20
Speaker 4: special out of it. And Jerry Jones is a glaring
21:22
Speaker 4: example of it.
21:23
Speaker 1: And just a little more credit to the defense getting
21:25
Speaker 1: the stops at the end that they needed to to
21:27
Speaker 1: win this game, because we talk we're talking about the secondary,
21:30
Speaker 1: but also the line.
21:31
Speaker 8: And what they've been able to do.
21:32
Speaker 1: And I know Philip Rivers isn't running all around, but
21:35
Speaker 1: getting a sack and then getting a stop late in
21:37
Speaker 1: this game when it was important he needed it.
21:39
Speaker 4: It's what this defense has been doing. They've been shutting
21:42
Speaker 4: the door earlier in recent games, but late in yesterday's game.
21:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, And we probably won't show it because unless they're
21:51
Speaker 5: from seventy field goals are boring. But credit to Cam
21:55
Speaker 5: little So now seventeen fourteen yesterday and he hits three
21:59
Speaker 5: field goals. We tend to think of fifty three as
22:03
Speaker 5: a gimmey.
22:04
Speaker 6: It's not.
22:05
Speaker 5: His last field goal was not a gimmy. If he
22:07
Speaker 5: misses that, you're what at the fifty with eighteen seconds ago,
22:12
Speaker 5: they have a kicker too, So I joke with camera
22:15
Speaker 5: right now and then that obviously they never talk about
22:18
Speaker 5: his field goals when they're in So credit him for
22:22
Speaker 5: nailing those three in the second half because that was
22:25
Speaker 5: a come from behind.
22:25
Speaker 6: Field goal game.
22:26
Speaker 8: He sets the bar too high for himself.
22:27
Speaker 1: You know, we have high expectations, and I think those
22:30
Speaker 1: are good things for him because it's been great to see.
22:32
Speaker 5: So we saw over the weekend, you know in the
22:36
Speaker 5: Texans game. Ye good kickers missing big kicks that cost games.
22:41
Speaker 5: Cam Little didn't yesterday.
22:42
Speaker 8: Absolutely, stay with us.
22:43
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you our hot takes when we come
22:45
Speaker 1: back after the break on jag Vamy.
22:57
Speaker 8: Welcome back to jag Vam, brought to like firehouse.
23:00
Speaker 1: We have your hot takes for you today.
23:06
Speaker 7: Well, I'll just say we have all the confidence in
23:08
Speaker 7: ourselves that when we play well and we execute, we
23:10
Speaker 7: can beat anybody. So and that's all you can that's
23:13
Speaker 7: all you can ask for. Who cares, who thinks who's
23:16
Speaker 7: the best team this That we'll get to prove it,
23:18
Speaker 7: you know, come next week first of all, and then
23:20
Speaker 7: in the playoffs, you know, we we'll all get our
23:22
Speaker 7: shot at one another. And if you keep winning, you
23:24
Speaker 7: keep playing, so you know, don't really have an answer
23:27
Speaker 7: for that, but I know we have a lot of
23:28
Speaker 7: confidence in.
23:28
Speaker 4: Our locker room.
23:30
Speaker 8: There go DAGs.
23:30
Speaker 1: Fans try more to ask if the Jags are the
23:32
Speaker 1: best team in the AFC.
23:33
Speaker 8: He says, I don't care.
23:34
Speaker 4: I love it.
23:35
Speaker 6: They're right in there.
23:36
Speaker 5: I mean, and that's where I think any team the
23:38
Speaker 5: AFC right now, there's what seven and that group looks
23:41
Speaker 5: like you know who's gonna make it. I'd say all
23:45
Speaker 5: of them could be the best team.
23:48
Speaker 6: It's wide open.
23:48
Speaker 8: That's why we play the games. Brian, what is your
23:51
Speaker 8: hot take?
23:51
Speaker 4: First, you want to clap me on the back and
23:53
Speaker 4: patent me for being right, but you might remember it's
23:55
Speaker 4: a tember. My hot take was that the Jaguars pulling receipts. Yeah, right,
23:59
Speaker 4: the Jaguars defense was going to join these nineteen ninety nine,
24:03
Speaker 4: two thousand and seven, in twenty seventeen teams as having
24:08
Speaker 4: thirty takeaways. They had thirteen in the first four games.
24:11
Speaker 4: And so I went out on a limb with a
24:12
Speaker 4: hot take intaid they're going to get thirty, and they've
24:14
Speaker 4: got thirty. So with that, I say that they're going
24:17
Speaker 4: to get three on Sunday against cam Ward, the rookie quarterback,
24:22
Speaker 4: and they are going to tie the twenty seventeen team
24:27
Speaker 4: for most takeaways in Jaguars history. It's a reach because
24:30
Speaker 4: cam Ward has eight touchdowns and only two interceptions in
24:33
Speaker 4: the last four games when he's played so well. He's
24:36
Speaker 4: been very careful with the ball. Back of last three weeks,
24:38
Speaker 4: he has six touchdowns and no interceptions. But I just
24:42
Speaker 4: think that this Jaguars defense is opportunistic. They've proven it
24:45
Speaker 4: all year, and I say they're going to go out
24:47
Speaker 4: on Sunday and get three takeaways, maybe four, and be
24:50
Speaker 4: the team that is the most takeaways in Jaguars history
24:54
Speaker 4: a year after having only nine.
24:56
Speaker 6: Oh surprise you usually so humble.
24:58
Speaker 4: I will, sitting next to you will do that too. Yeah.
25:02
Speaker 5: It's been impressive. That is I've clearly been a defining trait.
25:06
Speaker 5: And I think what has been impressive is what you're
25:08
Speaker 5: talking about. There's been teams year around that start off
25:11
Speaker 5: with hot takeaways and then teams figure out, okay, that's
25:15
Speaker 5: what they do, and it's hard to keep that going,
25:19
Speaker 5: and the Jaguars haven't kept up that pace. But if
25:22
Speaker 5: you think about since even that stretch They've gotten to
25:25
Speaker 5: make key times, They've gotten them in big moments, and
25:28
Speaker 5: they have established themselves as a team that's good at that,
25:32
Speaker 5: not just a team that started that way hot.
25:35
Speaker 6: I went a little more general.
25:39
Speaker 5: This game was not as impressive score wise as the
25:45
Speaker 5: last four, but I thought it.
25:47
Speaker 6: Was as good considering the circumstances. It's really easy to.
25:51
Speaker 5: Forget how hard it is going on the road in
25:55
Speaker 5: the division and beating a team a second time, because
25:59
Speaker 5: the team what worked three weeks ago often doesn't work
26:05
Speaker 5: as well the next time around, And especially yesterday, Once
26:09
Speaker 5: you got a couple of breaks against you early and
26:11
Speaker 5: you're playing uphill, it's hard to get back the way
26:15
Speaker 5: they did it sort of climb the ladder back into
26:17
Speaker 5: it and then stabilize and still weren't getting easy stuff.
26:22
Speaker 5: The more ways you can win, and they're showing they
26:25
Speaker 5: can win that way too, and it's the sign of
26:27
Speaker 5: a really mature, good team.
26:28
Speaker 4: They hadn't had a close win in a month, right,
26:31
Speaker 4: They'd had a fourteen point lead for the entire fourth
26:33
Speaker 4: quarter of the last three games, so this toe felt
26:37
Speaker 4: like one of those games. You know, Houston sharpened them.
26:39
Speaker 4: I think we all can agree they haven't lost sense.
26:42
Speaker 4: This is the kind of game that can give them
26:44
Speaker 4: a little edge, It can bring them back, it can
26:47
Speaker 4: get them ready because close games are the order of
26:50
Speaker 4: the day when you get.
26:50
Speaker 5: Into the playoffs, and it was a close game where
26:52
Speaker 5: you didn't need a miracle. Like the Raiders and the
26:55
Speaker 5: Cardinals both sort of felt those are the last two
26:58
Speaker 5: close wins. They both sort of felt hectic, like you know,
27:03
Speaker 5: it was gonna be a coin flip. Whatever happened at
27:04
Speaker 5: the end this one, when they got that lead and
27:08
Speaker 5: got control of it, it sort of kept control and
27:11
Speaker 5: kept sort of strangling and eventually sort of war them out.
27:15
Speaker 5: So I thought this one was an impressive NFL win.
27:19
Speaker 1: Guy interrupted you, No, you're good. I think I'm on
27:21
Speaker 1: the same page with you.
27:22
Speaker 4: Guys.
27:22
Speaker 1: This is what I call a gut check kind of win,
27:24
Speaker 1: because when we talk about the way they have been
27:26
Speaker 1: winning has been by blowing teams out. You go to Roads,
27:29
Speaker 1: take on the Broncos a huge high. This was an
27:31
Speaker 1: opportunity for you know, Christmas comes by trap game vibes.
27:35
Speaker 1: When you look start looking ahead, you clinched a playoff
27:37
Speaker 1: spot and you come out you don't look great and
27:40
Speaker 1: all those kind of weird wonky players are going against you.
27:42
Speaker 1: That is a game that can easily slip away. But
27:45
Speaker 1: that's when you need to kind of reflect, go back
27:47
Speaker 1: into this and be like, no, we're going to find
27:48
Speaker 1: a way to win this game, John, you and I
27:51
Speaker 1: talk a lot about when you watch good teams, they
27:53
Speaker 1: don't they aren't always playing their best, but they find
27:55
Speaker 1: a way to win. And that's what we saw them
27:57
Speaker 1: do on the road against a divisional opponent and a
27:59
Speaker 1: tough in a game that they needed to kind of
28:02
Speaker 1: continue and hopefully get a win in the AFC South.
28:04
Speaker 1: And when you look going into the playoffs, the most
28:07
Speaker 1: dangerous teams to me are the teams that are playing
28:09
Speaker 1: like this right now. So US and the Houston Texans.
28:12
Speaker 1: Are they winning pretty all the time? Absolutely not. Are
28:14
Speaker 1: they finding a way to do it? Yes, those are
28:16
Speaker 1: the teams that are dangerous to me. The Patriots have
28:18
Speaker 1: a very, uh not easy schedule, but they've played against
28:22
Speaker 1: some lighter opponents as of recent So when you go
28:25
Speaker 1: up against some of the best and you see what
28:27
Speaker 1: your team is gonna look like, whether it's the Texans
28:29
Speaker 1: going as the Chargers or the jag taking on the Broncos,
28:31
Speaker 1: you know what your team has, and you find a
28:33
Speaker 1: way to win. And that's the team I wanna be
28:35
Speaker 1: backing when you head into the postseason. So that's my
28:37
Speaker 1: hot take for us today. And I don't know if
28:39
Speaker 1: that's blazing hot, but I was happy to see them
28:41
Speaker 1: kind of get that gut check and find a way
28:43
Speaker 1: to win.
28:44
Speaker 4: H Listen the moment that you have where you can
28:46
Speaker 4: get into the room and teach and really teach hard. Uh.
28:49
Speaker 4: Heath Farewell had his s. His special team shooters have
28:52
Speaker 4: been outstanding all year long. He's probably been looking for
28:55
Speaker 4: a moment like this. Not that he wanted to give
28:56
Speaker 4: up two fifty yard returns, but man, he can really
28:58
Speaker 4: go in there and grind and these guys, he can
29:01
Speaker 4: expect that these guys will respond.
29:02
Speaker 5: Yeah. For Jaguars fans, think about your yesterday s game
29:05
Speaker 5: like this, How many years, last fifteen years have you watched.
29:08
Speaker 6: A team like the Patriots or the Chiefs and.
29:10
Speaker 5: In December you see them down early on your score tracker,
29:14
Speaker 5: You're like, they're gonna figure out a way to win that. Yeah,
29:17
Speaker 5: and you look up and they've won twenty to thirteen,
29:20
Speaker 5: and nobody really knows how Jaguars are turning into one
29:23
Speaker 5: of those teams and when you watch them, they can
29:26
Speaker 5: be very stressful, but that's how you get there.
29:30
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29:33
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Speaker 9: Whoa well, well win well guys, So proud of you.
30:08
Speaker 3: Those games are never an easy meant those games are
30:11
Speaker 3: never easy.
30:12
Speaker 6: Going on the road in the division. All that doesn't
30:15
Speaker 6: matter you guys, just step up and continue to win.
30:20
Speaker 3: Continue to win.
30:20
Speaker 4: That's all that matters.
30:21
Speaker 5: Men.
30:22
Speaker 3: Continue to win and find ways to win.
30:25
Speaker 6: That's what it's about.
30:27
Speaker 1: Well exasperated, how's that feel? But they still got to win.
30:30
Speaker 1: Nim Cohen says he's so proud of everyone. Makes me
30:32
Speaker 1: feel like he's proud of us too, as little small
30:35
Speaker 1: market shell.
30:35
Speaker 8: Just do what we can getting our twelve wins.
30:39
Speaker 4: There were some videos on social media, people in New York,
30:43
Speaker 4: you know, all around the country, Jaguars fans watching the
30:45
Speaker 4: game and talking about being small market. I love how
30:48
Speaker 4: that has Listen that guy, he speaks Duval. He is
30:53
Speaker 4: the William Shakespeare, the Winston Churchill of Douvall. That guy
30:56
Speaker 4: speaks it so well.
30:58
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's uh.
31:01
Speaker 5: A year ago there was no identity and there's a
31:04
Speaker 5: clear identity it. It's a r It's a remarkable turnaround,
31:08
Speaker 5: and the coolest part is there's a.
31:09
Speaker 6: Long way to go.
31:09
Speaker 4: And do you know early on when things weren't going well,
31:11
Speaker 4: you know, when Will Mallory's laying on the ground with
31:13
Speaker 4: the reception for the first down, I I thought, boy,
31:16
Speaker 4: I'd hate to miss a post game locker room speech
31:20
Speaker 4: from him. I've gotten so used to seeing them and
31:22
Speaker 4: enjoyed them so much. I don't want to miss them.
31:24
Speaker 4: I hope they keep coming. You know.
31:25
Speaker 8: It's funny is side note?
31:27
Speaker 1: Just for those looking ahead, we do them behind the
31:29
Speaker 1: scenes show the Hunt and one of when asked about
31:32
Speaker 1: this last week, Liam Cohen and his victory speech, as
31:35
Speaker 1: he said, his favorite locker room seech was actually the
31:37
Speaker 1: one that he gave after the loss to the Texans
31:39
Speaker 1: on the road, when they blew that lead in the fourth.
31:41
Speaker 1: So I think we might get a little peek at
31:44
Speaker 1: that l in the coming weeks, So keep your eyes
31:46
Speaker 1: out for that. But he's he's he's such a good
31:49
Speaker 1: motivator in any situation. And it's when you talk about culture, John,
31:53
Speaker 1: we talk about culture. To come in and make it
31:56
Speaker 1: happen without forcing it and just being himself is what
31:59
Speaker 1: makes it so organic and what makes it so cool.
32:01
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the right guy at the right time, in
32:06
Speaker 5: the right era. I mean, he's a coach of this.
32:09
Speaker 6: Time, doesn't necessarily.
32:11
Speaker 5: Coach with fear the way thirty years ago you would
32:15
Speaker 5: coaches hard with love.
32:17
Speaker 6: I mean all of that, and then you've heard players
32:20
Speaker 6: talk about it all year. They play for this guy,
32:22
Speaker 6: all right.
32:22
Speaker 1: Stick with us this week, our final week of regular
32:25
Speaker 1: season shows. We'll obviously preview the Titans matchup and look
32:28
Speaker 1: a little bit into what these playoff matchups could look
32:31
Speaker 1: like as we look at predictions. But we'll see you
32:34
Speaker 1: back here tomorrow our Wednesday on Jackson