Latest / DISGRACELAND / Al Pacino: Good and Evil, Attempted Robbery, and the Role of a Lifetime
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis. This is the
- 0:15Speaker 1: story about one of the greatest actors of all time,
- 0:19Speaker 1: al Pacino. It's also a story about one of the
- 0:22Speaker 1: greatest movies of all time, The Godfather. But this is
- 0:26Speaker 1: also a story about the death of a neighborhood friend,
- 0:30Speaker 1: about a violent robbery that almost went completely wrong. That
- 0:34Speaker 1: about the role of a lifetime a role al Pacino
- 0:37Speaker 1: starred in as a young man, a role that wasn't
- 0:40Speaker 1: on stage or screen, but that played out in front
- 0:43Speaker 1: of a couple detectives and a district attorney. This is
- 0:47Speaker 1: a story about good and evil, about the road not taken,
- 0:52Speaker 1: The road not Taken, a theme the Beach Boys lifted
- 0:56Speaker 1: from poet Robert Frost for their song all This Is
- 0:59Speaker 1: That for their most excellent nineteen seventy two album, Carl
- 1:03Speaker 1: and the Passions So Tough, great music, Unlike that music
- 1:08Speaker 1: I played for you at the top of the show.
- 1:10Speaker 1: That wasn't great music. That was a preset loop from
- 1:14Speaker 1: my melotron called on Heaven's Beach MK.
- 1:18Speaker 2: One.
- 1:20Speaker 1: I played you that loop because I can't afford the
- 1:22Speaker 1: rights to Are You Lonesome Tonight? By Elvis Presley and
- 1:26Speaker 1: why would I play you that specific slice of Shall
- 1:29Speaker 1: I Come Back Again?
- 1:30Speaker 2: Cheese? Could I afford it?
- 1:33Speaker 1: Because that was the number one song in America on
- 1:37Speaker 1: January seventh, nineteen sixty one, And that was the day
- 1:41Speaker 1: that a young al Pacino was arrested in a small
- 1:43Speaker 1: city in Rhode Island, an arrest that would later be
- 1:46Speaker 1: used to inform one of the most incredible performances in
- 1:49Speaker 1: Hollywood history. On this episode dead Friends, stick Ups Gone Wrong,
- 1:56Speaker 1: the performance of a lifetime in al Pacino, I'm Jake Brennan.
- 2:01Speaker 2: And this this disgrace lamb.
- 2:36Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy one, Francis Ford Coppola began production on
- 2:40Speaker 1: his mafia epic The Godfather, in my humble opinion, the
- 2:44Speaker 1: first truly great movie ever made. Yes, I know that's
- 2:49Speaker 1: a bold statement, one that sounds like some bullshit hot take,
- 2:52Speaker 1: but I think it's the kind of take that an
- 2:56Speaker 1: artist and visionary like Francis Ford Coppola would reci The
- 3:01Speaker 1: director himself was all about hot takes. Coppola's generation, the
- 3:05Speaker 1: film School generation quote unquote New Hollywood, Scorsese, Spielberg, de Palma.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Their entire objective was to subvert the norm, to upend
- 3:16Speaker 1: the way things have been done for decades, how movies
- 3:19Speaker 1: were shot, how stories were told, Coppola telling the head
- 3:23Speaker 1: of Paramount Pictures, Robert Evans, the five foot seven al Pacino,
- 3:27Speaker 1: a virtual unknown, should play in Michael Corleone and The
- 3:30Speaker 1: Godfather over more conventional, bankable stars like Ryan O'Neill or
- 3:35Speaker 1: Robert Redford. Now that was a hot take. Robert Evans
- 3:40Speaker 1: was old school, high collared dress shirts, cashmere sweaters, a
- 3:45Speaker 1: cigar by the pool with a phone receiver up to
- 3:48Speaker 1: each ear. So, of course, Robert Evans did not respond
- 3:52Speaker 1: warmly to Francis Ford Coppola's bold new Hollywood choice. Absolutely not,
- 3:58Speaker 1: he said, Michael Corey.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Leon will not be played by al Pacino.
- 4:04Speaker 1: The story about Coppola fighting to cast al Pacino against
- 4:07Speaker 1: all odds, about Coppola's pigheadedness about his balls, the kind
- 4:12Speaker 1: of unwavering faith that he had, and the thirty one
- 4:14Speaker 1: year old actor, the kind of faith that al Pacino
- 4:17Speaker 1: didn't even have it himself at the time. It's a
- 4:19Speaker 1: well told tale that I'm not going to get into here.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Suffice to say that after auditioning forty different Michael Corleones,
- 4:27Speaker 1: after seeing early footage of Pacino in the film The
- 4:30Speaker 1: Panic and Needle Park, and after enduring Coppola's tireless insistence,
- 4:35Speaker 1: Robert Evans, much to his alpha male dismay, changed his
- 4:40Speaker 1: mind and the kid stayed in the picture. As it were,
- 4:44Speaker 1: for al Pacino, it was a real chance. If the
- 4:47Speaker 1: film was a hit, that would mean no more borrowing
- 4:50Speaker 1: cab fair to get around New York, no more CouchSurfing
- 4:53Speaker 1: in his friend's apartments. He'd recently won a Tony Award,
- 4:56Speaker 1: but the Godfather the.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Movies paramount, this was way.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Bigger than Broadway Right now, However, al Pacino wasn't thinking
- 5:05Speaker 1: about his career so much as he was thinking about.
- 5:07Speaker 2: How much pain he was in it.
- 5:09Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about his face, even though the
- 5:12Speaker 1: entire left side of his jaw appeared to be completely swollen.
- 5:16Speaker 2: The pain was in his ankle.
- 5:18Speaker 1: He'd rolled it on set shooting scene in which he
- 5:20Speaker 1: ran a little too fast and a little too hard,
- 5:23Speaker 1: and a mishap meant that he was now walking around
- 5:25Speaker 1: with a cane. His face, meanwhile, only looked like a
- 5:29Speaker 1: hurt because the makeup guy was really good at his job,
- 5:33Speaker 1: and his job been wired shut and a prosthetic lump
- 5:36Speaker 1: was stuck to his cheek in order to make it
- 5:38Speaker 1: look like he'd been punched by a dirty cop and
- 5:42Speaker 1: the Godfather. His character, Michael Corleone gets clocked by an
- 5:46Speaker 1: NYPD captain named McCluskey, who's played was entitled Prick Gusto
- 5:51Speaker 1: by Sterling Hayden, and this happens after Michael accuses McCluskey
- 5:55Speaker 1: of being on the take from Virgil Salazzo aka the
- 5:58Speaker 1: Turk and Narco man, who just put Michael's father, mafia
- 6:02Speaker 1: don Vito Corleon played by Marlon Brando, in the hospital
- 6:07Speaker 1: Al Pacino. As Michael Corleon was sitting in a big
- 6:10Speaker 1: leather chair inside the Corleone compound and the real pain
- 6:13Speaker 1: throbbing in his ankle. It helped him portray the fake
- 6:17Speaker 1: pain that was so clearly visible on his face in
- 6:19Speaker 1: the scene. The film crew was ready, Coppola called action
- 6:25Speaker 1: and the camera rolled and this was it. The scene,
- 6:29Speaker 1: the best scene in the whole movie. There's Michael sitting quietly,
- 6:35Speaker 1: calm reserved, taking it all in better to remain silent
- 6:40Speaker 1: and be thought a fool, or speak and remove all
- 6:43Speaker 1: doubt or.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Something like that. Also quiet.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Artessio and Clemenza, two Corleone family capos, one tall, one short,
- 6:52Speaker 1: both capable men with ways and means. Meanwhile, James Kahn,
- 6:57Speaker 1: playing Michael's big brother Sonny, is the whole opposite of Michael.
- 7:01Speaker 1: He's volcanic, antsy, talking with his hands about a being
- 7:04Speaker 1: bout a boo, and he's arguing with Robert Duval as
- 7:07Speaker 1: Tom Haigen, the Corleone family's Concieri fixer, an attorney, Tom
- 7:12Speaker 1: trying to talk some sense into the eldest Corleone that yes,
- 7:15Speaker 1: we understand your need for revenge, that you want to
- 7:18Speaker 1: go out there and bam put a bullet in Salatto's
- 7:20Speaker 1: head because that piece of shit put a hit out
- 7:22Speaker 1: on your pops. But listen, it's not personal, Sonny. It's
- 7:26Speaker 1: just business. A tough pill to swallow, I know, but
- 7:29Speaker 1: it's the truth. And never mind killing a cop, he'd
- 7:32Speaker 1: be starting a war, one which the Corleones would lose
- 7:36Speaker 1: very quickly. As the argument continued, al Paccino, the actor
- 7:41Speaker 1: remained stoic. His character was a private man, a marine
- 7:46Speaker 1: just back from the war, distance from the family, both
- 7:49Speaker 1: in emotion and in business. He didn't put his feelings
- 7:53Speaker 1: out there like his big brother Sonny or his other
- 7:55Speaker 1: big brother Fredo. But the wheels were turning inside the
- 7:59Speaker 1: head of the young is Corleone. And in this scene,
- 8:02Speaker 1: in this incredible scene, somehow you can see those wheels turning.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Al Pacino, the actor Michael Corleone, the character.
- 8:12Speaker 3: He didn't let anyone know.
- 8:13Speaker 1: What was going on in his mind, but you knew
- 8:16Speaker 1: something was going on. And Michael Corleone, al Pacino saw
- 8:21Speaker 1: a mirror image of himself, a shy, introverted kid drawn
- 8:26Speaker 1: into a world of violence, crime and despair, a man
- 8:30Speaker 1: forced to choose between the paths of good and evil,
- 8:34Speaker 1: a decision that al Pacino knew.
- 8:36Speaker 2: All too well.
- 9:11Speaker 1: I said, what are you looking at, he scrowny little punk.
- 9:16Speaker 1: The question was followed by a blow to the head,
- 9:20Speaker 1: an open handed slap that knocked him to the ground
- 9:22Speaker 1: and left his ear drums ringing. He could taste blood
- 9:25Speaker 1: mixed with tears in the back of his mouth, and
- 9:28Speaker 1: he just lay there, curled into a ball, with his.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Hands over his face. His assailant was laughing.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Now that's right, you little mama's boy. Either in the
- 9:38Speaker 1: dirt or with that. The nine year old girl turned
- 9:41Speaker 1: on her heels and walked away, leaving six year old
- 9:45Speaker 1: al Pacino bleeding.
- 9:46Speaker 2: On the ground.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Nineteen forty six. The South Bronx was rough even thirty
- 9:54Speaker 1: years before its urban decay was portrayed so vividly by
- 9:57Speaker 1: hip hop pioneers like Cool Herk and Graham Master Flash.
- 10:01Speaker 2: It was made even rougher by World War Two.
- 10:04Speaker 3: Kids lost their fathers.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Others were killed on the battlefield, and some, like young
- 10:09Speaker 1: Alfred Puccino's dad, returned from service.
- 10:13Speaker 2: No longer fit for family.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Life, Alfredo and his mother moved into his grandparents cramped
- 10:19Speaker 1: tenement apartment, a three room unit they also shared with
- 10:23Speaker 1: the odd aunt or uncle, whoever was able to pay the.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Rent that month.
- 10:27Speaker 1: His mother made ends meet working at a local movie theater.
- 10:31Speaker 1: He loved visiting her at work, staring at a bright
- 10:34Speaker 1: screen in a darkened room, transported out of New York
- 10:38Speaker 1: City and into a completely new world. He'd give anything
- 10:41Speaker 1: to be there right now. Instead, he was wiping the
- 10:44Speaker 1: blood from his nose and struggling to rise from the
- 10:47Speaker 1: asphalt to one knee. It was bad enough that he
- 10:50Speaker 1: just had the ship beat out of him by a girl,
- 10:53Speaker 1: but a group of boys watched it happen, A group
- 10:55Speaker 1: that now had him surrounded. At first no one said
- 10:59Speaker 1: a word, and then one boy stepped forward and offered
- 11:03Speaker 1: a hand. And that boy was Cliff, age seven, one
- 11:08Speaker 1: year older than the rest of them, tougher too, more
- 11:11Speaker 1: likely to dish out a beating rather than receive one.
- 11:14Speaker 1: Al took the outstretched hand and pulled himself up.
- 11:17Speaker 2: Hey, Cliff said, why do.
- 11:19Speaker 1: You let her smack you around like that? Little Alfreda
- 11:22Speaker 1: looked around at all those eyes staring at him, waiting
- 11:25Speaker 1: for an answer. He had to say something, anything, so
- 11:29Speaker 1: he did what came naturally. He acted. He told him
- 11:32Speaker 1: his dad was a mobster. He said his old man
- 11:35Speaker 1: didn't like when he fought at school.
- 11:37Speaker 2: It drew too much attention.
- 11:39Speaker 1: That his dad had these two huge German shepherds locked
- 11:41Speaker 1: behind a gate. If Al said one word to him
- 11:44Speaker 1: about what had happened today, his dad would feed that
- 11:46Speaker 1: girl with those mutts. And two seconds flat, the story
- 11:51Speaker 1: hung in the air. The boys kept staring. Al wondered
- 11:55Speaker 1: if they bought it. Cliff began to chuckle, and then
- 11:58Speaker 1: the whole group was laughing. Eight years later, the group
- 12:05Speaker 1: was still laughing, only now they were teenagers and the
- 12:08Speaker 1: laughs were courtesy is some low grade weed, crumbled up
- 12:11Speaker 1: and mixed with a pinch tobacco. Cliff was still a
- 12:14Speaker 1: year older, still tougher, rocking full on rebel regalia. Black
- 12:19Speaker 1: leather jacket, black motorcycle boots, didn't matter. They had never
- 12:23Speaker 1: been on a motorcycle in his life. He had gotten
- 12:25Speaker 1: laid though, a fact which made Cliff the group's undisputed
- 12:29Speaker 1: leader and thus made his word gospel. Al Pacino or
- 12:34Speaker 1: Sonny as he was known to his friends. But I
- 12:36Speaker 1: don't want to call him Sonny because it's just going
- 12:38Speaker 1: to get confusing, since Sonny Corleone is a character and
- 12:40Speaker 1: the Godfather and all that we were just discussing. The
- 12:43Speaker 1: fourteen year old al Pacino stood next to his best
- 12:46Speaker 1: friend Cliff, eagerly awaiting a hit. Smoking a joint was
- 12:50Speaker 1: their standard.
- 12:50Speaker 2: After school ritual.
- 12:52Speaker 1: That and a couple of bottles of Schlitz that they
- 12:54Speaker 1: could convince one of the neighborhood's older guys to buy
- 12:56Speaker 1: it for them. Today was one of those days. Fifteen minutes,
- 13:00Speaker 1: the beer and the bud had taken effect, and they
- 13:03Speaker 1: left the empty bottles behind the dumpster and then left
- 13:05Speaker 1: the alley. Al cracked him up with his over the
- 13:08Speaker 1: top impersonations of his snooty drama school teachers. They all
- 13:12Speaker 1: had to stick up their ass about the process, and
- 13:15Speaker 1: it sucked all the joy out of acting. Then suddenly
- 13:18Speaker 1: it hit him, shit, today was Wednesday. He was supposed
- 13:23Speaker 1: to be at work. The job wasn't much, sorting fruits
- 13:27Speaker 1: and vegetables, and the pay wasn't much either, but it
- 13:30Speaker 1: put a little cash in his pocket, and part of
- 13:32Speaker 1: him just enjoyed the work. He liked the feeling of
- 13:35Speaker 1: completion when he sorted a palette of tomatoes until nothing
- 13:38Speaker 1: was left but the.
- 13:39Speaker 2: Bear wood underneath.
- 13:41Speaker 1: So he managed to keep it up for three months
- 13:43Speaker 1: without being late for a single shift until today. I
- 13:47Speaker 1: got to get to work, he told the group, and
- 13:49Speaker 1: turned to walk in the other direction. Cliff jumped in
- 13:53Speaker 1: front of him before he could leave. Why did Al
- 13:55Speaker 1: bother with that penny?
- 13:56Speaker 2: Any job? Come on? Cliff? Al told him, I'm saving up.
- 14:00Speaker 2: I need new shoes.
- 14:02Speaker 1: As he said this, he pointed at the window shoe
- 14:04Speaker 1: display in the shop that they were walking past. Cliff
- 14:07Speaker 1: thought the job was bullshit, and he said so. In
- 14:11Speaker 1: this neighborhood, people didn't get ahead by working at a
- 14:13Speaker 1: fruit stand. They got ahead by taking what they wanted,
- 14:17Speaker 1: working a square job that was for suckers. Cliff turned
- 14:22Speaker 1: towards the shoe display. You want some shoes, you want
- 14:25Speaker 1: some fucking shoes. I'll get you some shoes. Cliff stepped
- 14:29Speaker 1: up to the display window, raised his black motorcycle boot,
- 14:33Speaker 1: and without hesitation, smashed it directly through the glass. He
- 14:37Speaker 1: grabbed a pair of shoes and turned to walk back
- 14:39Speaker 1: to Al and the others, and right then an NYPD
- 14:42Speaker 1: patrolman round at the corner, and the cop took one
- 14:46Speaker 1: look at the busted window and another look at Cliff
- 14:47Speaker 1: with the shoes in his hands, and he ordered all
- 14:50Speaker 1: the boys up against the wall. Cliff tried to take
- 14:53Speaker 1: the blame, he said, the other guys had nothing to
- 14:55Speaker 1: do with it. The cop wasn't buying it. The crowd
- 14:59Speaker 1: began again, like the crowd that had gathered when Alec
- 15:02Speaker 1: and his face rearranged by a girl some eight years prior.
- 15:06Speaker 1: When Al's mother arrived on the scene, she placated the
- 15:09Speaker 1: store on her while Cliff promised to pay for the damages,
- 15:12Speaker 1: and only then did the cop let them go. Al
- 15:15Speaker 1: Pacino's mom forced him to head to work and explained
- 15:18Speaker 1: to his boss what had happened and why he was late?
- 15:21Speaker 1: And he walked into the vegetable market, his eyes red
- 15:24Speaker 1: and bleary, the effects of the weed long gone, and
- 15:27Speaker 1: the market's owner, a man Al's mother had convinced to
- 15:30Speaker 1: give him this job, looked back at this juvenile, the
- 15:32Speaker 1: linquid employee with disappointment. He let out into the back
- 15:36Speaker 1: room among pallets of tomatoes, onions, and peppers. But Aut
- 15:40Speaker 1: didn't start sorting vegetables as usual. Instead, his boss rolled
- 15:44Speaker 1: out a blackboard they used to keep track of the
- 15:46Speaker 1: shipments and wiped it clean. He spoke about the farm
- 15:49Speaker 1: where these crops grew. He drew out trees, vines, and
- 15:52Speaker 1: rolling hills, and through the farm he sketched out two paths.
- 15:57Speaker 1: He explained that in life, there are only two paths,
- 16:01Speaker 1: and you, my friend, are on the wrong one. Weeks later,
- 16:07Speaker 1: those words were still bouncing around Al's head as he
- 16:10Speaker 1: was walking home. It was Sunday evening. He couldn't believe
- 16:15Speaker 1: the performance he just witnessed. A traveling theater troupe performed
- 16:18Speaker 1: chech Us the Seagull for an audience of probably twenty people.
- 16:23Speaker 1: But he was only there as a school requirement. But
- 16:25Speaker 1: what he saw transformed him. The way these actors brought
- 16:29Speaker 1: the Russian melodrama to life so vividly blew his mind
- 16:33Speaker 1: was nothing like the joyless acting exercises at school. Here
- 16:37Speaker 1: was something real, something meaningful, a level of acting ability
- 16:41Speaker 1: that he had never experienced before, and he wanted that
- 16:44Speaker 1: ability for himself. Cliff, meanwhile, just wanted to keep taking
- 16:49Speaker 1: whatever he wanted whenever he wanted, which, as the years
- 16:53Speaker 1: went on, meant more bags of white powder than those
- 16:56Speaker 1: baggies gave Al an uneasy feeling actually seeing Cliff's eyes
- 17:01Speaker 1: when he was on it, all wild and unfocused. Al
- 17:05Speaker 1: steered clear of Cliff's temptations. He eventually dropped out of
- 17:09Speaker 1: high school. What he kept putting in work as a janitor,
- 17:12Speaker 1: a busboy, a messenger. He also put in the work
- 17:15Speaker 1: at a local acting studio. One night, he cut through
- 17:19Speaker 1: an alley after rehearsal. Usually the alley was empty, but
- 17:23Speaker 1: on this evening, a small group of people stood in
- 17:25Speaker 1: a semicircle, just like Al and his friends used to
- 17:28Speaker 1: do when they'd pass.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Around a joint. But there was no joint.
- 17:32Speaker 1: There was just a body lying stiff on the ground,
- 17:36Speaker 1: arms covered in bruises and track marks. Cliff was dead
- 17:41Speaker 1: from an overdose at just nineteen years old. Soon more
- 17:47Speaker 1: friends from the neighborhood succumbed to addiction to crime. More
- 17:51Speaker 1: than ever, Al was determined to escape that fate. He
- 17:55Speaker 1: stopped using drugs and he rarely drank. Acting kept him
- 17:59Speaker 1: busy and kept him out of trey trouble, and by
- 18:01Speaker 1: the time he turned nineteen, he left that old neighborhood,
- 18:04Speaker 1: the old friends, and that old sonny nickname. On stage,
- 18:09Speaker 1: he was Al Pacino. But to the rest of the world,
- 18:12Speaker 1: and more importantly to the police, he was still that
- 18:14Speaker 1: same scrawny Italian hoodlum from the South Bronx, and it
- 18:18Speaker 1: was about to take the performance of a lifetime to
- 18:21Speaker 1: convince them otherwise.
- 18:28Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this.
- 18:30Speaker 2: We're We're, We're.
- 18:39Speaker 1: January nineteen sixty one, the New York City streets were
- 18:43Speaker 1: uncharacteristically quiet for a Saturday on account of the temperature.
- 18:47Speaker 1: It was cold, real cold, and people were inside, but
- 18:52Speaker 1: there was a lone figure standing on the corner, short, wiry,
- 18:57Speaker 1: a shock of black hair and deep set soul eyes.
- 19:02Speaker 1: A car pulled up near where the figure was standing
- 19:04Speaker 1: in a window rolled down, and from inside the vehicle
- 19:06Speaker 1: a voice called out you Al, twenty year old al
- 19:11Speaker 1: Pacino just nodded his head and slid into the car's backseat.
- 19:15Speaker 2: Up front, the owner of the.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Voice looked back at him, same shock of black hair
- 19:20Speaker 1: as Al. Another Italian kid from the Bronx. He introduced
- 19:24Speaker 1: himself as Vincent. That's Bruce, Vincent said, nodding toward the driver. Anyway,
- 19:29Speaker 1: thanks for doing this.
- 19:31Speaker 3: We really need three.
- 19:31Speaker 2: Guys on this job.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Al knew Vincent from the neighborhood. They went to the
- 19:36Speaker 1: same junior high, they went with the same girls, and
- 19:39Speaker 1: they must have crossed paths one hundred times, but somehow
- 19:43Speaker 1: they never officially met before today. They had one more
- 19:46Speaker 1: thing in common too. They're both trying to break into acting.
- 19:50Speaker 1: At least that's what Vincent told Al on the phone
- 19:53Speaker 1: a few days ago.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Up north in Boston, a.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Theater was putting on a new gangster play and they
- 19:58Speaker 1: had parts for three young actors, preferably Italian. A mutual
- 20:03Speaker 1: friend connected them, and when Vincent explained the part, al
- 20:06Speaker 1: had to agree that.
- 20:07Speaker 2: They were perfect for it. Bruce.
- 20:10Speaker 1: The driver stepped on the gas and they departed the city,
- 20:13Speaker 1: heading north.
- 20:15Speaker 2: Once they made it to the freeway. Traffic was light.
- 20:18Speaker 2: They made conversation.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Al and Vincent laughed about the scams they pulled as teenagers,
- 20:23Speaker 1: the trouble they caused him school Like Al, Vincent was
- 20:27Speaker 1: at one time a troublemaker, that is until a short
- 20:30Speaker 1: stint in Juvie for B and E convinced him to
- 20:33Speaker 1: turn his life around.
- 20:34Speaker 2: Or so we said.
- 20:36Speaker 1: The miles took by, and soon they were in Rhode Island,
- 20:40Speaker 1: only an hour away from their destination, and the car
- 20:43Speaker 1: approached a split in the highway, but instead of continuing
- 20:46Speaker 1: north as Al expected, Bruce.
- 20:48Speaker 2: The driver took another pass.
- 20:50Speaker 1: He turned the wheel and the car veered left, following
- 20:53Speaker 1: a sign for wind socket. Sorry man, Bruce said, taking
- 20:58Speaker 1: the exit. Gotta take the piss. As the car continued
- 21:01Speaker 1: into town, Vincent began talking about the plan for their audition.
- 21:06Speaker 1: He gave Al a mischievous grin. They want a Guido
- 21:08Speaker 1: gangster for this part, he said, and I'm gonna give.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Them the real deal.
- 21:13Speaker 1: From a bag in the front seat, Vincent pulled out
- 21:16Speaker 1: three black ski masks, and he slid one over his
- 21:19Speaker 1: head and laughed. Check it out, he said, reaching in
- 21:21Speaker 1: to the back, I even brought a heater. Al felt
- 21:25Speaker 1: his body tense up as Vincent pulled a handgun out
- 21:28Speaker 1: of a brown paper bag, and Vincent told him to relax.
- 21:31Speaker 2: It was just a prop.
- 21:33Speaker 1: The gun wasn't even loaded. Vincent and Bruce both laughed.
- 21:37Speaker 1: Al smiled, but inside his heart was pounding. Vincent calmly
- 21:42Speaker 1: explained that he and Bruce liked to stop in this
- 21:44Speaker 1: town on their way to Boston. They knew a great
- 21:47Speaker 1: spot to grab a few burgers and maybe a couple
- 21:49Speaker 1: of beers for the road before they pulled into Beantown.
- 21:53Speaker 1: As they drove through Won Socket, Bruce pulled the car
- 21:56Speaker 1: off the main dragon into a seatier part of town.
- 21:59Speaker 1: Vincent still had the black ski mask over his head.
- 22:02Speaker 1: He toyed with the gun in his hand and in
- 22:05Speaker 1: the back seat. Al didn't know if he should play
- 22:07Speaker 1: a cool or throw open the door and run.
- 22:10Speaker 2: The car slowed.
- 22:12Speaker 1: Vincent pointed out the spot, a rundown bar on the
- 22:15Speaker 1: corner out front. The parking spaces were full, so they
- 22:19Speaker 1: circled around the block.
- 22:20Speaker 2: And came back.
- 22:22Speaker 1: Bruce and Vincent had both grown quiet now. Al sat
- 22:26Speaker 1: in the back seat, waiting to see what would unfold.
- 22:29Speaker 1: They came up on the bar a second time, and
- 22:31Speaker 1: this time they found a spot to park. Bruce backed
- 22:34Speaker 1: the car in and then looked back at Al. We'll
- 22:37Speaker 1: grab the food and be right back, he said mine,
- 22:40Speaker 1: watching the car for a few minutes. In the front,
- 22:43Speaker 1: Vincent and Bruce reached for their door handles. Al's heart
- 22:46Speaker 1: felt like it was about the pound right out of
- 22:48Speaker 1: his chest. The ski masks, the gun. Vincent said they
- 22:52Speaker 1: were props, but Al was beginning to think otherwise. He
- 22:55Speaker 1: was frozen with terror, no idea what was about to
- 22:58Speaker 1: go down, or exactly what he'd signed up for. And then,
- 23:02Speaker 1: just before Vincent and Bruce made their exit, just up
- 23:05Speaker 1: ahead of them a burst of blue and red lights.
- 23:08Speaker 1: That Irish cop, his hair as red as Al's nose
- 23:10Speaker 1: and the cold air, stepped out of a squad car
- 23:13Speaker 1: and walked toward them. He was fixated on their black
- 23:16Speaker 1: hair in New York plates, and the cop got closer.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Vincent looked back at Al, we're on away to an
- 23:22Speaker 1: audition right now, nodded yes. The cop looked in the
- 23:26Speaker 1: car and saw the ski masks and the gun. He
- 23:29Speaker 1: told them all to get out of the car, and
- 23:31Speaker 1: the Bronx addresses on their ideas confirmed the officer's suspicions.
- 23:35Speaker 1: Three Guido punks coming to cause trouble in his quiet town.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I'm not on his watch. He's going to lock them
- 23:41Speaker 1: up and throw away the key. And that's exactly what happened.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Al Pacino and his traveling companions were arrested for attempted
- 23:52Speaker 1: robbery in a legal possession of a firearm, charges that
- 23:55Speaker 1: could land them a decade in jail. They spent the
- 23:58Speaker 1: weekend behind bars. Al woke up on Monday morning to
- 24:03Speaker 1: the sound of a cell door sliding open. A cop
- 24:06Speaker 1: called him out into the hallway, and as he stepped forward,
- 24:09Speaker 1: Vincent and Bruce both shot him a look that said,
- 24:11Speaker 1: stick to the story. Al knew he needed to do
- 24:14Speaker 1: more than stick to his story to.
- 24:16Speaker 2: Get him out of this mess.
- 24:17Speaker 1: He needed to harness every ounce of his acting chops
- 24:20Speaker 1: to convince these Irish cops that, even though they looked
- 24:23Speaker 1: like Italian hoodlums from the city, there were actually good
- 24:25Speaker 1: kids want to be artists with maybe a little bit
- 24:29Speaker 1: more enthusiasm than common sense. And the audience for this
- 24:32Speaker 1: performance was small, just two cops in the da and
- 24:36Speaker 1: the scenery was bare. A table a couple of chairs
- 24:40Speaker 1: in a single spotlight shining down from the ceiling. Al
- 24:44Speaker 1: closed his eyes and centered his mind on the character
- 24:47Speaker 1: he wanted to play, a mama's boy, a fruit stand worker,
- 24:51Speaker 1: a square. They stepped into the room and it was showtime.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Over the next ninety minutes, al Pacino gave a powerhouse
- 24:59Speaker 1: per performance. He swore the masts and the gun were
- 25:03Speaker 1: just props for their audition. The gun wasn't loaded after all, right,
- 25:07Speaker 1: at least, he prayed to God it wasn't loaded.
- 25:09Speaker 2: Fortunately, the DA.
- 25:11Speaker 1: Nodded his head in agreement, and Al's confidence grew.
- 25:15Speaker 2: He pulled out all the stops.
- 25:16Speaker 1: He cried tears while telling them how ashamed his mother
- 25:19Speaker 1: would be if she knew he was arrested. He begged
- 25:21Speaker 1: them to call the theater in Boston, which he hoped
- 25:23Speaker 1: really was holding auditions, like Vincent said. By the end
- 25:28Speaker 1: of the interrogation, both the DA and the cops were
- 25:31Speaker 1: shaking Al's hand, and by the end of the day, Al,
- 25:35Speaker 1: Vincent and Bruce were released. Al's performance, plus a phone
- 25:41Speaker 1: call to the playhouse to confirm the auditions, convinced the
- 25:44Speaker 1: cops to drop all charges, but the trio didn't head
- 25:48Speaker 1: on to Boston. Instead, they turned around and went back
- 25:51Speaker 1: to New York. Al never knew exactly what happened in
- 25:55Speaker 1: Rhode Island. Did he almost unwittingly take part in a robbery?
- 26:00Speaker 1: There were three want to be actors goofing around and
- 26:02Speaker 1: getting into character. But whatever the case, once they arrived
- 26:06Speaker 1: back in the city, they went their separate ways and
- 26:10Speaker 1: now never heard from Vincent or Bruce again. The world,
- 26:13Speaker 1: on the other hand, was about to hear from al.
- 26:16Speaker 4: Pacino stroller.
- 26:34Speaker 1: Slower nineteen seventy one, ten years after his brush with
- 26:50Speaker 1: the law on Windsocket, Rhode Island, and al Pacino was
- 26:53Speaker 1: once again performing for.
- 26:54Speaker 2: A small crowd.
- 26:56Speaker 1: This time, however, the performance wasn't happening in a police
- 26:59Speaker 1: and irrigation room. He was on the set of The
- 27:03Speaker 1: Godfather in the Corleone compound, sitting quietly in that big
- 27:07Speaker 1: leather chair. His jaw and cheek were made up to
- 27:10Speaker 1: look like he'd gotten smacked, when in fact the real
- 27:12Speaker 1: pain was, as I mentioned before, throbbing in his sprained ankle.
- 27:17Speaker 1: Francis FOURD. Coppola's camera rolled in. The director called action.
- 27:22Speaker 1: James Kahn as Michael's brother Sonny and Robert duval as
- 27:26Speaker 1: the Corleone family attorney Tom Hagen.
- 27:28Speaker 3: Again, we're arguing over the pros.
- 27:29Speaker 1: And cons of killing not only Salazzo.
- 27:31Speaker 2: The narcotics man who put the godfather.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Himself, Don Corleone, in the hospital, but of also killing McCluskey,
- 27:38Speaker 1: the crooked cop protecting Salazzo. Sonny Corleone was a loud
- 27:43Speaker 1: mouth and a hothead. He was also the eldest of
- 27:46Speaker 1: Don Corleone's children, and thus it was taken for granted
- 27:49Speaker 1: that he would be in control of the family in
- 27:52Speaker 1: his father's absence. Michael Corleone, on the other hand, was
- 27:57Speaker 1: the dark horse, the silent type, the guy you never
- 28:01Speaker 1: saw coming. In Michael Corleone, al Pacino saw a mirror
- 28:05Speaker 1: image of himself, that shy, introverted kid that was drawn
- 28:10Speaker 1: into a world of violence, a world of crime and
- 28:13Speaker 1: of despair, that man who was forced to choose between
- 28:17Speaker 1: the paths of good and evil.
- 28:20Speaker 2: Michael Corleone didn't do evil, at least that was what
- 28:24Speaker 2: you were made to believe. He was a good.
- 28:26Speaker 1: Man, a fair man, a veteran of World War Two
- 28:29Speaker 1: who had no interest in the family business. But al
- 28:33Speaker 1: Pacino knew something that many didn't he knew something. No
- 28:37Speaker 1: One watching the film for the first time when it
- 28:39Speaker 1: was initially released in March of nineteen seventy two would
- 28:42Speaker 1: ever suspect al Pacino knew that Michael Corleone was evil,
- 28:49Speaker 1: That evil laid dormant inside of him, just waiting for
- 28:53Speaker 1: a reason to come out.
- 28:55Speaker 3: That Michael Corleone now.
- 28:57Speaker 1: Had his reason, the attempted assassination of his father and
- 29:00Speaker 1: the resulting struggle for control.
- 29:03Speaker 3: Michael would fill.
- 29:04Speaker 1: That power vacuum, and then doing so would set the
- 29:07Speaker 1: chorus for one of the greatest villain character arcs in
- 29:10Speaker 1: movie history. It was al Pacino's job to portray this transition,
- 29:15Speaker 1: this turn in Michael's character, to play it so well
- 29:18Speaker 1: that every audience in every theater around the country would
- 29:21Speaker 1: buy it, just like the cops in wond Socket bought
- 29:23Speaker 1: his performance some ten years prior. But Michael Corleone was
- 29:28Speaker 1: not al Pacino. Michael Corleone chose a different path. Francis
- 29:33Speaker 1: Ford Coppola's director of photography, Gordon Willis, didn't want to
- 29:37Speaker 1: move the camera around for the scene.
- 29:39Speaker 3: He wanted all the shots.
- 29:40Speaker 1: And the Godfather to be still, to look like paintings.
- 29:44Speaker 1: But Coppola was bringing that new Hollywood energy again. He
- 29:48Speaker 1: defied Gordon Willis's very capable instincts, just like he defied
- 29:52Speaker 1: producer Robert Evans's casting choices Coppola had. Gordon Willis slowly
- 29:58Speaker 1: tracked the camera closer to alp Puccino as his character
- 30:01Speaker 1: Michael began to speak in this scene, and there were
- 30:05Speaker 1: no cuts, just a long slow shot that moves in
- 30:10Speaker 1: on Michael as he finally reveals his plan to a
- 30:14Speaker 1: room of family members and associates stunned into silence.
- 30:20Speaker 2: They wanted to have a.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Meeting with him, Right with Michael, Okay, they'd have the meeting.
- 30:25Speaker 1: It would be him, McClusky, and Salazzo. The Corleone's informants
- 30:31Speaker 1: would find out where the meeting would be held, right
- 30:33Speaker 1: or make it a public place, a bar, a restaurant,
- 30:37Speaker 1: somewhere with people, somewhere Michael could feel safe. He'd probably
- 30:41Speaker 1: be searched when he came in, so he wouldn't be
- 30:44Speaker 1: carrying a weapon. But if they could figure out a
- 30:48Speaker 1: way to have a weapon planted there for then he
- 30:52Speaker 1: killed him both and by doing so, by playing the
- 30:57Speaker 1: role of Michael Corleone, al Pacino took the path he
- 31:01Speaker 1: could never take on his own, the path of disgrace.
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