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The Chicken Sisters Season 2, Episode 5 (feat: Suspenders Unbuttoned) · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: This is a Bramble Jam podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Homewark review podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan. Today we are
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  Speaker 2: discussing The Chicken Sisters Season two, Episode five, No Trespassing y'all.
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  Speaker 2: For our Chicken Sisters reviews, I have been joined by
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  Speaker 2: a rotating cast of lovely co hosts to recap and
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  Speaker 2: review each episode, and this week I am so lucky
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  Speaker 2: to be joined by the women behind the Suspenders Unbuttoned podcasts,
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  Speaker 2: Sarah and Julie. Thank you for being.
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  Speaker 3: Here, Thank you for having us. This will be fun.
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  Speaker 1: I thanks un up to join you and talk about
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  Speaker 1: this episode of The Chicken Sisters and whatever else.
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  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the whatever else at all. As fellow
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: Hallmark podcasters, I feel like we're in the calm before
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: the countdown to Christmas storm. How are you too feeling
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  Speaker 2: about the coming season.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, I haven't given it too much thought yet.
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  Speaker 1: We may have a big weekend ahead of us and
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  Speaker 1: we need to get past that. First. We'll be in
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  Speaker 1: Vancouver for the One Calls a Heart Fan event.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So once we get past that, we'll probably start
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  Speaker 3: thinking about well, we can't really let's wait and see
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  Speaker 3: what they that they dry.
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  Speaker 2: You can't really plan for what you don't know yet,
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  Speaker 2: I know, And.
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  Speaker 1: What are we planning for people? Because it's still.
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  Speaker 2: Then you can do until that final announcement comes out.
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  Speaker 1: So sometimes you just randomly do other stuff in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the Christmas stuff anyways.
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  Speaker 2: Because yeah, yeah, because you can control that a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more, right, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and since we don't review, yeah, we have a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more freedom there too, kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, schedule your interviews that way, right, So let's talk
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  Speaker 2: the Chicken Sisters. Our co hosts have had a variety
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  Speaker 2: of different levels of experience with the show, So I'd
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  Speaker 2: love to hear your experience with season one, if you
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  Speaker 2: watched it at all, where you are with season two.
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  Speaker 2: Just some general thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: I watched season one and I'm caught up with this.
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  Speaker 1: I think I actually missed episode I might have missed
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  Speaker 1: episode three. I'm I'm trying to decide that this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Fun maybe you missed it. So we actually started on
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  Speaker 3: The Chicken Sisters pretty early. We we had these big
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  Speaker 3: plans to do a book club because we've done that
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  Speaker 3: in the past. So we read the book, and then
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  Speaker 3: we sort of dropped the ball on that. I think
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  Speaker 3: we were really that interested in it, but we did
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  Speaker 3: watch We did watch it and are up to date.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Now is it a show that you like or
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  Speaker 2: is it a show that we are watching because, like
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  Speaker 2: you want to be a Hallmark completionist.
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  Speaker 3: I had no interest in watching season two. When you've
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  Speaker 3: reached out to us, I was like, of course, sure,
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  Speaker 3: let's do this. And I've been watching them as they
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  Speaker 3: get dropped in the account and I will say season
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  Speaker 3: two is better than season one. I agree, but it's
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  Speaker 3: not something I'm excited about.
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  Speaker 2: It's not appointment television for you.
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  Speaker 1: I will get at it. Every episode has some things
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  Speaker 1: that I just really like, and then it feels like
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  Speaker 1: the Hits and the Missus are on big ends of
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  Speaker 1: each other in the episode.
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  Speaker 2: So well, we're definitely going to talk about that in
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  Speaker 2: this episode. First, we'll take a quick break and we're
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  Speaker 2: going to come right back with our first impression. All right,
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  Speaker 2: Sarah and Julie, I would love to hear your first
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  Speaker 2: impressions of episode five of The Chicken Sisters.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I have a first impression for what is and
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  Speaker 1: maybe what isn't meant to be.
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  Speaker 3: Like it deep, I'm just like, is Daddy sketchy?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, I do believe. So. My first impression is
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  Speaker 2: this episode makes me feel like burning my bra in
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  Speaker 2: a women can Do anything moment malade.
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  Speaker 3: I will say that in the when I first started watching,
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  Speaker 3: I sent a text to Julie and said, the best
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  Speaker 3: thing about the Chicken Sisters is the rhiannon.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really fun last episode. I loved that.
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  Speaker 2: I think unfortunately, I think that's all we're gonna get.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, unfortunately for Homewark watchers, not unfortunately for the storyline.
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  Speaker 2: In my opinion, I feel like she served her purpose
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  Speaker 2: in the cuter role. Yeah great, All right, well, Julie,
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  Speaker 2: you said you have as many highs as you have lows,
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  Speaker 2: So why don't you start by telling us what you
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  Speaker 2: liked about this episode?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you know what? I like the the lies Jar
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  Speaker 1: scene just uh well, multiple reasons. It's just got some
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  Speaker 1: really great tension, that romantic tension that you just want
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  Speaker 1: the chemistry between them. And I'm gonna say it, the
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  Speaker 1: the acting in that scene was really great. That's sometimes
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  Speaker 1: a miss for me in this series, and that scene
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  Speaker 1: came through like and wait, in all the ways you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to to an actor. Rivera is like one of
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  Speaker 1: our faves. We have had him on the podcast in
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  Speaker 1: the past, and he's an absolutely gem of a person.
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  Speaker 3: Besides so, I'm probably the most talented person ever.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't know about his painting.
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful artist Lynn Man did not know that.
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  Speaker 1: Lyn Manuel Miranda uh had him paint the Cheetah rivera
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  Speaker 1: lifetime Achievement mural that is the size of a garage
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  Speaker 1: for like, oh my goodness, we had him on our
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  Speaker 1: podcast and because yeah, I'm not going to act for
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  Speaker 1: a while, I'm gonna paint and we're like, like, what
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  Speaker 1: are you gonna paint? And then that came out. If
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  Speaker 1: you go dive his instagram, go dive his intertestagram, there's
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  Speaker 1: so many amazing posts, including how he painted it. His
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  Speaker 1: painting is I can't even tell you there's a reason
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  Speaker 1: Lynn Manuel Miranda chose him to paint this incredibly important painting.
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  Speaker 3: It's stunning, absolutely stun and not to mention, like speaking
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  Speaker 3: of Lynn the Into the Heights, he was their star
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  Speaker 3: for I think was it in Porto.
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  Speaker 2: Lead Fort So just a.
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  Speaker 3: Mega talented I really.
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  Speaker 2: Love him in this show but I love that story
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  Speaker 2: about him. That's a great story. Sarah, what about you?
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  Speaker 2: What did you love about this episode?
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  Speaker 3: I will also say the lie jar was top of
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  Speaker 3: my list. Feel like, again, like Julie said that, the
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  Speaker 3: acting was really good. I kind of like how they
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  Speaker 3: had Sergio just kind of standing there and watching her
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  Speaker 3: and not responding, like there wasn't really a response except
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  Speaker 3: for his eyes. So I enjoyed that. I also, I
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  Speaker 3: think I overall really enjoyed the message of empowerment. You
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  Speaker 3: can do hard things. I'm not a single mom, but
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  Speaker 3: my husband travels often, so I do really understand that
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  Speaker 3: feeling of knowing like you've got to be the one
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  Speaker 3: to do it and you can't depend on somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: You have to know how to do everything. So I
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  Speaker 3: appreciated that about the episode as well.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you, these women are all coming into
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  Speaker 2: their own and I'm so glad to see it. I
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  Speaker 2: was a little bit worried that we were going to
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  Speaker 2: wait all the way until we get to the wedding
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  Speaker 2: and just have this like episode eight of like reveal
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  Speaker 2: after reveal after reveal, and I'm so glad we're getting
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  Speaker 2: some of these big moments out of the way. Look,
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  Speaker 2: Amanda is finally taking a little control over her life.
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  Speaker 2: She signs the divorce papers. She's stepping forward. Goodbye Dudley, goodbye.
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  Speaker 2: My notes say in all caps, I'm just that was
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  Speaker 2: short lived. I'm glad to be moving on to the
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  Speaker 2: next thing there and then not so forcefully in all caps,
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  Speaker 2: but goodbye bo. We had seen the writing on the
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  Speaker 2: wall there. We knew that this was not a perfect
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  Speaker 2: fit for Nancy, and that she needed to live for
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  Speaker 2: herself and make choices for herself. And so I loved
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  Speaker 2: the parallel storylines of Nancy and Frankie realizing they were
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  Speaker 2: both in relationships that did not serve them. The grandmother
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  Speaker 2: granddaughter relationship was really sweet supporting each other through that.
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  Speaker 2: I loved that parallel editing there as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was I I thought they were both like,
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  Speaker 1: they weren't horrible people, and they weren't horrible relationships. They
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  Speaker 1: just were not It's okay to end a relationship that
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  Speaker 1: isn't actually where your heart is.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's so important because so many of the
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  Speaker 2: men in the show are terrible. Frank Jr. Frank Senior,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to say I think Clayton is not all that.
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  Speaker 2: Actually a lot of the men in the history of
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  Speaker 2: Marynac and so we've kind of been conditioned that, Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you should relieve these terrible relationships, but even good guys
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  Speaker 2: don't warrant staying in a relationship if it's not the
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  Speaker 2: relationship for you.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, And I think that's what these two stories they paralleled.
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  Speaker 1: And also didn't like trash on the guys right like
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  Speaker 1: they were. Really these are great guys. I'm like that
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  Speaker 1: Will Dudley. He's sweet as can be, but he who
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  Speaker 1: really loves that He's just not Lindsay.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he's just not Lindsey. Where are you guys on
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  Speaker 2: the Frankie Lindsay relationship train?
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know if I'm anywhere. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: it's stayed with me.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's going like it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: drawn out for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feel like we're building towards that.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if they were going to go there,
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  Speaker 2: but I do feel like we might see at least
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  Speaker 2: the two of them admitting their feelings for each other.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like there's no way it's Lindsay feelings for
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  Speaker 2: Frankie feel very obvious to me, especially in the first
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  Speaker 2: kiss episode. Yeah, so I'd be shocked if we don't
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  Speaker 2: get a little resolution on that this season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, you made a point earlier about
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  Speaker 3: how some of these storylines could You were worried they
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  Speaker 3: would wait until the end of the season. So the
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  Speaker 3: fact that we got it now, it kind of gives
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  Speaker 3: me hope that all those other storylines will become a
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  Speaker 3: bigger part of the story maybe, Yeah, to watch them.
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  Speaker 3: You know something else I really like too is the
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  Speaker 3: conversation with Amanda in May when May was encouraging Amanda.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you've got to who did this?
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  Speaker 3: You fix my bachelorette party? When they're kind of going on.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that was a nice scene, especially, you know,
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  Speaker 3: watching them fight all last season, so it was It's
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  Speaker 3: fun to see that relationship keep changing.
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  Speaker 1: Sister sister hype your hype person is a big change
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  Speaker 1: for them, right, So the first season, neither of them
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  Speaker 1: were hyping each other up, and you know, that's a
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  Speaker 1: wonderful spot for them to be moving into as they
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  Speaker 1: true that sisters be each other's hype person.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we see that a lot in this episode Women
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  Speaker 2: Supporting Women and I'm glad the sisters are on the
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  Speaker 2: same team. Kind of humorous to me, it's like a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of a wink and a nod. Gus is
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  Speaker 2: so nice to everybody after rekindling with Clayton. She's not
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  Speaker 2: not in May when she turns up late. Even Sean
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  Speaker 2: is like, what is happening here? And I love how
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  Speaker 2: they're telling us without telling us, like what's going on
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  Speaker 2: with Gus. It kind of makes what comes a little
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  Speaker 2: bit later even more heartbreaking because she has that like
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  Speaker 2: glow of love on her in the beginning of this.
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  Speaker 2: But you also.
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  Speaker 1: Feel like there's always this like this feels fake, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like this is not what is happening here. It's all
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  Speaker 1: too easy, Like this, Yeah, it's all too easy, And
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  Speaker 1: we're going to go on a date and we're going
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  Speaker 1: to go and we're gonna look pretty, and but it's
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  Speaker 1: you don't You don't feel the emotions there. You feel
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  Speaker 1: like they're acting the part right.
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  Speaker 2: I have been suspicious of Clayton since he came on screen,
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  Speaker 2: and some people have been like, no, I want to
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  Speaker 2: believe that he's good. I'm like, there are too many
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  Speaker 2: questions here and I love that May finally asked them
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  Speaker 2: in this episode. That kind of moves into my wishes,
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: but I wanted to make sure we've covered everyone's likes first. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all right, let's talk wishes. Why did you think wish
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: would happen in this episode? Trouble with this episode?
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  Speaker 3: I wished that there was less Frank Junior.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's always my wish.
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  Speaker 3: Jean's thought is so good at the guy that you
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  Speaker 3: just can't stand. Like, he's so nuanced in that you
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  Speaker 3: got to give him a lot of credit. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I kept saying, like in the book, there was no Franks,
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  Speaker 3: he was dead. Why.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. My co host last week, Aaron, she like, remember
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  Speaker 2: how Frank Junior was dead in the book. I miss that.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm going to say I have never gotten over
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  Speaker 1: that he's not dead. It's always just like, well, like
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  Speaker 1: all of her relationship problems, that is one of the
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  Speaker 1: founding pieces of it is that her husband is dead, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's part of a man's inability to connect with
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  Speaker 1: people Like so I always I'm always like, can he
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  Speaker 1: go away? Because he's dead?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: I read the book too before watching the first season,
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  Speaker 2: and when we start watching and Frank Junior's alive and
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  Speaker 2: all these changes have been made. Again no fan of
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  Speaker 2: Frank Junior. I think it was smart decision making in
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  Speaker 2: terms of having the show go on for multiple seasons,
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  Speaker 2: because if we don't have that Frank Junior conflict, there's
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  Speaker 2: not as much driving us forward. We don't have the
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  Speaker 2: impetus to create the Chicken sisters versus the Cluckery and
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  Speaker 2: all of this. So I get it. At the same time,
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  Speaker 2: all love to James Cott. He's created the most milk
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  Speaker 2: toast villain on the plan, so great, but I would
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  Speaker 2: love to see him move on. Thanks Junior, It's time
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  Speaker 2: to go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Also love we gets the same story for him, like
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  Speaker 3: over and over, Like okay, let's make the recipe again,
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  Speaker 3: and okay, can we get a different story? Like you're
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  Speaker 3: not going to sign the divorce papers? You're obsessed with
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  Speaker 3: this chicken, Like obviously the chicken is a big part
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  Speaker 3: of the story, but it felt feels like if he's
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  Speaker 3: going to stick around, can we have him doing some
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  Speaker 3: new things?
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  Speaker 2: Is that all you have is this stolen chicken recipe?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Like that feels very you know, season one, and like
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  Speaker 1: he needs a different story for season two. My wish
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  Speaker 1: for is the weasel.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: It's you know, it's we get it.
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  Speaker 1: I get the reference so in your life isn't right
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  Speaker 1: and you have to let it go. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: get the you know, the subtextsn't very sub it's just
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  Speaker 1: sit right there. They're needed to. It could have been
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  Speaker 1: used other places. We could have gotten the you gotta
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: let the weasel go reference a lot faster.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and worth several episodes into the weasel problem at
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: this point. This is Uh. Wendy would have said, this
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  Speaker 2: was way too many high drinks for this episode. She
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: can't stand like that level of silliness. And the tunnel
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: to the outs it was. It was terribly I don't
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  Speaker 2: disagree with you. It yeah, beating you over the head
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  Speaker 2: with the symbolism there right they yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, the subtests in very sub it
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  Speaker 1: was just sitting right. Yeah, It's like right on the surface,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like, okay, now we've let the problem go.
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  Speaker 1: We let it go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And also I'm gonna say it almost like it trivialized
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: these women lifting each other up a bit, like like
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  Speaker 1: it was such an important piece of this episode, both
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: these women walking alongside each other and lifting each other up.
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  Speaker 1: That the Weasel almost was too trivial, So all side
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  Speaker 1: with Wendy. I'll be the Wendy with no I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I think I wonder if they thought it would be
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  Speaker 3: a balance between the more serious yeah story lines that
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  Speaker 3: are going on again, Yes, it was. It felt like
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  Speaker 3: the longest day ever, Like, are they still like the
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Weasels still in the closet? I thought we've already had
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  Speaker 3: like nighttime scenes in life, so that felt like it
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  Speaker 3: made it feel really long for me.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: So for me, I hated Clayton's public dinner announcement about
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: being with Gus. It was exactly I heard the narrator's
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: voice over where she was like, now he's finally he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have anything to hide, which okay, I can kind
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  Speaker 2: of appreciate that, and maybe that is how Gus took
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  Speaker 2: that moment. For me, someone who's been skeptical of Clayton
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  Speaker 2: since he walked in that diner on day one, and
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I was screaming at May, ask him where he's been,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: ask him why it's taken him so long. Seeing him
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  Speaker 2: do that, I thought it's not enough. And then when
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: we finally get the realization that well at least, they're
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: starting to get the realization that Clayton's not always cracked
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: up to be. Jay is starting to poke holes and
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  Speaker 2: May confronts him directly about it. It felt so gross.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: When he's at that final scene with Gus, after we
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: know like he's just here for a good time, he says,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I want to travel with you, and I'm thinking that's
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: not really who Gus is. Like Gus wants to be
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: here in Marynac. She wants to be here with her
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: daughters and her family, like she has really come to
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: love this place. She and Nancy are bestie's, Like who
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: saw that coming? And so he just wants all the
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: good stuff and the collapse at the end, I just
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: don't think he's going to handle that well. I don't
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: think that bodes well for Good Time Clayton. I'm not
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: rooting for his demise because these women seem to really
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: want him in their life. But it's been coming.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The mom that May really needed acknowledgment for her
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: dad makes this feel like it's going to be hard
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  Speaker 1: on her.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: I had a lot of thoughts speaking of May. I
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: was like, why would you want somebody you've never met
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: in your entire life to walk you down the aisle? Yes,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: what in your head? Like, I get that, Amanda exactly,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: her mom her, you know, the two of them. That
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: makes no sense to me, Like I can't wrap my head.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I get that again, how important it was because of
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: that big, huge event, like who is my dad? I
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: want to know who my dad is. I deserve to
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: know that kind of thing. I also think what I
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: was missing and why I really am not a Clayton
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: fan is that there was not any especially with us,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: not really any deep conversation, so like why did you
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: leave or why didn't you come back? He should have
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: that should have happened before he stood up in the
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: restaurant and you know, basically declared his love and whatever. Yeah,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: it's so superficial.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: It's just so superficial. It feels even though he's been
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: there before and he's back, it feels like a side
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: quest for Gus and the girls.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: And also maybe Gus just wants that. Maybe she only
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: wants a little bit of fun. She's good a lot
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: going on in her life, so maybe she's maybe she's willing,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: but we didn't get any of that, so we don't
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: know if that's what's happening. The narrator didn't say that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: You know, if we had like this inkling that she
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: just wanted a fun time, then I would act with it.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: But I don't.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Just don't suspect that's the case. I feel like she's
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: healing this wound of being left, and the fact that
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: he's showing up and wanting her is enough. Right now,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: it's not enough, but for her that feels like so much,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and that he's publicly accepting of her. It's what she
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: never had, the Clayton thing. It's just I felt the
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: same way when May asks him to walk her down
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: the aisle. I felt like, how just re to all
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the other people who have been here in your life
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: all of this time, Like it's not meaningful.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: It'll be somebody else that walks or down by Alum there.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Are I'm certain I think you're right. It might be
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: May and Gus or Gus alone. I mean, there's no
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: way I doubt he's even going to be at the
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: wedding at this point. That's why I feeling is he's
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: going to take off. Oh I know what I was
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: going to say. They have It's a great scene. It's
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: the end of episode three, Julie. So you may not
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: have seen it, but it's when Clayton shows up to
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Gus's house and he explains where he's been and he
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: came back. I came back and I saw you, and
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I saw the way May looked at you, and I
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: saw you with another man, and then I left. And
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the great thing about that scene is the acting in
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: that scene. The way she doesn't say a word the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: entire time, just the way she looks at him is incredible.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: But I'm thinking, Okay, now, push harder, because you came
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: back when May was two, and now she's what thirty
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: twenty eight years later, and it ever occurred to you
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: to try again. It's not good.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Enough, right, or try for your daughter even it is.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's okay that I had moved on, you left me,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: but you got this kid. And that to me, that
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: moment when he was like I came back and you
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: were with another man, I was like, he's not here
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: for May. He's not here for May. No, And real
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: easy for him to be back now when all she
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: needs is like a you know, someone to occasionally flit
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: the bill and show up and be fun. It doesn't
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: have to actually be a parental figure for her right.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Just come and you know, be there for the fun
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: things or the step line. It's parenting is the hard part,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: and coach being there when they're growing. Like he just
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: walked away from that. It's why that that whole storyline
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: gives us all that I don't think stuff.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, right, who's the bigger villain, Clayton or Frank Junior
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: at this point, it's it's tough to say a little bit.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: They both well, at least as bad as Frank Junior is. Also,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: can we just call him Frank one of these days? Like,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: but at least he keeps trying to come back, right, Like, yeah,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: he's not a good person. He really screwed them over,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: but he didn't just up and leave.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I guess he gets a point. Yeah, you can see.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: That he regrets. You know, he's regretful in some ways,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: sometimes not always because he just went and did it again.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: But you know, there's been episodes where you could kind
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: of feel for him and in his loss, not that
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: he didn't deserve it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a real hard time feeling any empathy
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: for Frank Junior. I totally hear what you're saying. No,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: it doesn't last long and when I see him coming
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: back for Amanda, I don't feel like he's coming back
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: because he's regretful. I feel like he's coming back because
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: he wants to be in control. He ruises to sign
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the divorce papers to assert power over Amanda. His life
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: is easier with Amanda in it. You know, he doesn't
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: want to have to start over. Its ruined his relationship
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: with his mother. I just I have a really hard
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: time seeing the good.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: He's not there to lift Amanda up or walk alongside
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: her in life. So you know, of course you just
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: don't want that either.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: So if they had wanted to give us frank Junior redemption,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: which again I don't want, I think scenes with Frankie
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: would have been the thing that would have done it,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: because there's nothing at stake in their relationship. He's just
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: being there for her and we don't see that happening.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: There's nothing for him to gain there. So let's talk
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: to some did you see that moments from this episode?
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Ladies go ahead.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I just have a really just kind of sweet moment
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: for anybody who's had teenagers. Even though this ended up
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: not happening, that they actually did a bit of a
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: promposal on there, and they did the whole balloons and
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you know, she got promposed to and he got to
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: plan out a promposal. I just liked that they did
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: that actual nod when that's such a big thing. If
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: you have anybody who's in high school and involved with
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that that it's it's a big deal on both sides.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: So it didn't have to be super over the top.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: It was just a very large bouquet of wounds. But
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: it was just fun to see that kind of nod
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: to what is a current trend and promposals.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was cute. I didn't hate that.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I have like a speaking of Frankie, why is she
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: always wearing like toddler hairstyles?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: That's exactly great question. She does always have too late
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: raids up front?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, why doesn't she have high school hairstyles?
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I have a fifteen year old who spends an awful
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: lot of time on her hair, and we do get
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: like the pieces, but they're not like the giant brazen
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm missing something like is that a thing?
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I have a fifteen year old also and she always
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: has to have hair out in the front, but yeah,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: it's not the braid like that. No, it's not now,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: that is not Yeah, it is interesting. I do find
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: it a little distract she's so cute too. I do
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: find it a little distracting. I feel like it ages
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: her down. And I every time I think about the
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: fact that she's headed to college, I just can't wrap
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: my head around. Right.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Like, she says something about NYU and I was like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: but but what I thought were impression for a second, right,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: because I'm not that invested in our character right now,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: But it kind of I was like, why is she
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: wearing Toddler?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Also, anyone.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: In going to NYU doesn't usually dress or do their
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: hair in a way that looks out of date and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: out of style. They're usually have a look and a
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: bit of an edge that are very current. Even if
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of money, These kids are
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: great at thrifteing and doing all the things. Says. We
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: both have artsy kids, and I'm just going to tell
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you that that's not the luck that's they're missing on her.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Look. Well, my original digitsy that I did want to
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: call out that li Jar scene. I think it was
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: masterfully directed and acted, But I have a tiny digitsy
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: that and it's from a listener, Paula, who emailed us
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: about Frank Junior's name tag. He put a little piece
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: of tape over the junior, like he couldn't even be
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: bothered to print a new name tag. He just had
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: to tape over, which I didn't even notice. But I
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: think is like such a perfect little bit about who
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: he is in that moment, Like the the elimination of
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: the junior is actually really irking me. I don't know why,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: because I can't figure out his motivation. He's like, I'm
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: in charge now, but he's not. I don't know.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I see what you're saying. I missed the name
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: tag that I did write down in my notes how
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: he said it's just Frank now. But yeah, I think
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: it's He clearly had some like daddy issues or something
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: like being in the shadow.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Right daddy accuser?
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I see that, as.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: They all have daddy issues.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Let's just be honest, they really all do. All right, Well,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: who is your MVP of the episode? Your feathered friend
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: of the wheat?
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna say I think Sergio.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's good.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: He's good. I have Skylar Fisk because I'm gonna throw
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: in this we haven't talked about. This sequence opened up
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: with the dream sequence, so so good, and it was
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: like multiple dreams, multiple viewpoints and done in that.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Line kind of creepy yees, and I didn't like it.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was like unsettling because she's unsettled, and
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: they were so well done that you were unsettled. And
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna say, uh, Skylar fisk Amanda. From the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: dream sequences to the jar, those were fantastic scenes. They
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: were big hits. They did what they were supposed to do.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Made you feel like you were unsettled watching those Franks
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: not really there, like.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: So good for me. My father friend of the Week
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: is Jay. I'm so glad he was the first to
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: finally see Clayton for who he is and very gently
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: kind of prod May about it. You know, she's like,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: he goes, don't you find it interesting that now that
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: he's bored, he's retired from his job, he's here and
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: she's like, you know, from one workaholic to another, we
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: just get tunnel vision and Jason, it must have been
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: a long time, and I thought it was really funny,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: but I just appreciated he was real gentle about it,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: and I like how he's just the perfect fiance he
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: loves me and all of her iterations but with that
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: and that was of her.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: He was he really was. May I really liked that
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: scene with them and that how he said that, like,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I like all the parts of you, like even the
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: parts aren't even the.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Sad organizing man, yeah, the mad man, like all of it. Yeah.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I really liked, Like he's the only good guy we
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: have in this No, Sergio is good guy. I take
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: that back, but one of the few good guys we
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: have in this show, and he sets the bar high.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: So I really enjoyed him.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: He's the only guy we have in a relationship, right,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: so he we're getting shown something healthy, which is something
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: we don't really get to see. But yeah, honestly though,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: between Jay and Sergio they were mayn vps because that
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: tip jar scene and just the look and the way
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: he was looking at Amanda.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I loved that the tip jar scene, the lie jar
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: when she takes it out, I'm like, what am I
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: doing with the li jar? Like I just was like, oh,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and then as she starts to read each line and
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: drops a coin in for every lie I it was great.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: And the drama with every drop, it was like, yeah,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: it was so good.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: That was that was really well directed.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and just the tension in that scene was like
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: because she is like essentially telling him no, I actually
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: not just that I even just that she's telling him
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I have feelings for you, but I also for you.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Like there's like they don't kind of push that too
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: much on homework.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little spicy like that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And between that and us is glow at the beginning,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: there's lots of suggestiveness in this episode, right flow. Well,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: thank you too so much for being here for this episode.
• 29:59
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• 30:02
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• 30:14
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• 30:16
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• 30:21
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• 30:26
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• 30:27
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