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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience.
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  Speaker 2: Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day.
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  We're up. So the guy that did your bar, Flying Guillotine,
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  is the same guy that did The Mothership.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Richard Weiss. Yeah, Richard, yeah. Yeah, Richard, the same designer, architect.
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  Who did your bar? I have a flying guillotine t-shirt
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  that I wear sometimes. I was trying to find it
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  this morning. I couldn't fucking find it.
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  Speaker 1: I wore mine yesterday. I went to the Alamo Draft
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  House and did a screening of the film. And I said,
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  would it be appropriate to wear my Staten Island Alamo
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  Draft House to them? And the guy there, he was like,
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  he wanted to wear his because he stole a stack
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  from Staten Island, but he couldn't find no more.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I've got it somewhere. I've got it somewhere in
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  my house, and I was scrambling this morning looking for it,
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  looking for that T-shirt. I couldn't find it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we got to send you some more.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely. So it's great to see you again, man.
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  Speaker 1: Back at you, man. Back at you. I got questions
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  for you.
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  Speaker 2: What do you got?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was thinking, like, well, remember you had this
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  place in Woodland Hills?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: That was, what, eight years now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, we've been out here for six, six years.
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  Speaker 1: So about six years ago. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You were there like eight years ago, I think. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Um, and I just remember you having, uh, the, like
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  the hyperbolic.
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  Speaker 2: Hyperbaric chamber.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The hyperbaric chamber. Do you still, are you still?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Was that what it was or was it the
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  sensory deprivation tank?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, the one where you float.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Is that that? Cause we had that at the studio.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't have a hyperbaric at the studio. Okay. So
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  I do have a hyperbaric.
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  Speaker 1: You have that now here? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Not here. I have it at my house. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just was always impressed at just your consciousness on
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  things that are unique, right? And I just, you know,
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  and as time goes on, sometimes, you know, as we evolve,
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  whether we evolve in physically, mentally, spiritually, or economically, sometimes
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  we leave certain things behind.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And I was, I said, I wonder if Joe keep,
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  moving his chi in the same direction. So that's my
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  question to you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, sometimes it gets caught up in momentum and you
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  got to step back and just realign yourself. That's definitely
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  a factor. Like sometimes I'm too busy and I get
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  too caught up in momentum of things and you kind
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  of like lose, like why am I doing this? Like
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  what is the process? Like what is the reason for
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  doing all this? But vacation always fixes that. Like you
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  take a few days off and you go– Oh, God.
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  Now I enjoy it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel the same. To be honest, I've been running
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  around for like, I don't know, for like eight days straight.
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  And I like to kind of make sure I exercise,
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  do my Tai Chi or something or stretch my body.
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  But I was telling my wife last night, like, yo,
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  I haven't worked out since we've been moving. But I've
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  been drinking every night. I'm like, I got to. Um,
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  so today, this morning, before I came here, I got
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  up a little bit earlier and I went and stretched
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  and got all that out. And that's what made this
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  question come to my head. It was like, I wonder, like,
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  as we grow and we become more and more involved
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  and we get in whatever it is in life that's
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  given us, how we get in these blessings, but how
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  far do we get away from the blessings that kind
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  of made us solid?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I try not to get as far. I try to
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  stay as close as possible to like centering my body. Like,
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  if I don't work out like just a couple of
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  days in a row, I start feeling weird. Just two days,
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  two days. I just start feeling like.
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  Speaker 1: Crack, crack, crack, crack.
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  Speaker 2: I feel antsy. I feel irritated. Just, I don't think,
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  I think I'm thinking clear. I don't feel relaxed.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm the same. Maybe for me, it's three
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  and a half days.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what drives me nuts is like how many people
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  out there, that's their whole life. There's no exercise in
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  their life. Like my God, you're doing yourself such a disservice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You're not, you're not a, your mind, not, not just
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  your body, but your mind needs that. You need to
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  blow out some steam and run the machine and stretch
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  it out and relax it afterwards and recenter yourself. And
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  if you don't do that, you're going to be anxious.
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  There's so many people are dealing with like constant crippling
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  anxiety all the time. And how many of those people
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  don't exercise?
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  Speaker 1: Right. I think that, um, in Shaolin philosophy, we, um,
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  you know, there's Qigong, right? And there's, uh, the, the,
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  the chi travels through your blood. So you got to
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  always continue to have the blood moving because the blood
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  is the supply you have, but the oxygen, you know,
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  gets it in and oxidates it and just keeps it flowing.
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  And when you do stretching or you do exercises or
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  you build up your respiration, uh, it actually energizes the blood,
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  which energizes every part of your body. It's like that
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  chi travels through every vessel and, uh, every meridian of
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  your body. And it actually does enhance you and, and,
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  and re vigorate you. A hundred percent.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Fires up your endorphins, fires up your endocrine system.
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  Everything just feels better and it calms you down. I
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  feel like human beings are almost like batteries. Like you're
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  storing energy all the time. But if you, if you've
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  got too much energy, it's leaking out of the battery
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  and you're, you're, you're not, you're not, purging some of it.
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  Your body has like human requirements for movement. And if
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  you don't use those requirements, if you don't meet those requirements,
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  you're just going to feel like shit. And I think
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  that's a big part of what's wrong with society today.
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  There's just way too many people that aren't doing that.
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  And they're just tense. And they're tense, anxious, feeling that
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  And the mental health problems that come with that, it
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  just spills over into everything else.
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  Speaker 1: Right. I got to agree with you. And I know
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  that people that, like my Sifu, Xi Yan Ming, who
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  he probably works out like six times a day because
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  he has to train. He has individual clients.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 1: But I think Sifu is maybe 10 years older than me.
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  Look 10 years younger than me.
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  Speaker 2: Right, of course.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Because he's just constantly... moving
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  that chi and exercising. He still could kiss his toes
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  in his 60s. Wow. Babies could do that, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: He still could kiss his toes like a baby. But
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  he said something to me that I took just heed
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  to for myself. I said, Sifu, why do you work
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  out so much? He gave me two answers. He says, one,
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  it feels good. It makes me feel so good. But
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  then the other... answer he gave me was that because
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  in shaolin when you get up in the morning you
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  have to exercise run up a mountain run back down
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  the mountain do chores and all that before you eat
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  and he said if you don't do that you don't
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  eat and so i was like well that sounds like
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  something from the bible where it says that uh man
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  should work to the sweat of his brow you know
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  what i mean and i took that philosophy so i
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  know i don't normally eat in the morning I would
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  normally get up, I mean, I drink coffee now, so
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  I've been drinking coffee about 10 years, I think. But
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  I will have some coffee, some water, and bam-a-lam-a. I
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  get into my exercise routine when I'm home.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's the best way to start a day. Yeah,
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  I do the same. I don't work out. I don't eat, rather,
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  before I work out. Right. I always work out first.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So, because we, then the, Then the water is fresher.
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  The food tastes better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You earned it, too.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: You earned it. It's just a good way to start
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  the day, too. You already did the hard part. The
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  most difficult part of your day is done.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And then everything else. And also, like, that difficult thing
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  makes the mental difficulty of the rest of the day
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  work smoother.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You remember that old commercial, the Army commercial? Which one?
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  It was like, we do by 6 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Some shit like we do for 6 a.m. what most
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  people do all day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's like back when you first, you know, when I
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  started out as young, I was like, I don't know
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  what the fuck they're talking about. But as a man,
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  I'm like, you know, that's wisdom. Get up in the morning,
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  get your chi going, and have a beautiful day.
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  Speaker 2: There's something, too, to getting up early where you force
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  yourself to work. You force yourself to rise. The comfort
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  of your bed calls you. You go, fuck you. You
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  get up, you get shit done, and you're like, I
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  already won. I won today. I've got a victory today.
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  I've got a victory over my inner bitch. You know,
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  I got out there. I did something. I'm laughing.
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  Speaker 1: No, because you say you told the best. Fuck you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you have to say. You have to
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  get up almost angry. Fuck you. No, you're not going
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  to call me in there with your octopus tentacles and
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  suck me into your depths. Your depths of warmth and comfort. No,
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  fuck you. Get up.
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  Speaker 1: Get up.
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  Speaker 2: Get going. That's why I like to get in the
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  cold first thing. That's my morning routine is cold plunge
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  before I work out.
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  Speaker 1: That's the easy. Yeah. I can't do that. Now, that
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  is kind of extreme for me. I'm not fucking with
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  the cold like that.
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  Speaker 2: You get used to it. I'm telling you. You get
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  used to it. It becomes like a normal thing.
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  Speaker 1: How long do you stay in there?
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  Speaker 2: Three minutes. Wow. It sucks. But every time I do it,
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  I almost don't do it. Every time I do it,
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  I'm almost like, don't do this. I don't want to
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  do this. Fuck this. Right. And then I get in like, oh,
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  we're doing it. We're doing it. And then I take
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  my phone and I set. I got a little kickstand
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  on the back of my phone, you know. So I
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  put the timer on there, and I look at it,
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  and it's at a minute.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, we're good.
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  Speaker 2: We're past the minute.
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  Speaker 1: Once you get past the minute.
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  Speaker 2: The minute mark is the tough part. Once you're past
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  the minute, it's pretty easy to get to three minutes.
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  Speaker 1: You just relax. I only did one ice bath, and
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  it was, they had bought this Tibetan llama to New York,
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  and it was me, I forgot the brother name. We
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  was doing this TV show thing, and they were trying
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  to find out, they were scanning our brains and see
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  what would happen if we got in the cold bath
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  before meditating. then meditate it, and then get back in.
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  So whatever. Some science shit. And I said, yeah, I'll
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  do it. I don't know why I agreed to it,
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  but I did it. But I got in that motherfucker, bro.
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  And when I got in there, I was like, this
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  is not the shit. I'm like this. And the host,
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  he got in too. Now, I don't know if that
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  was his first time or not, but he was younger
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  than me, skinnier than me. You know what I mean?
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  And When I couldn't take it no more, around one
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  minute and whatever, it was past the minute mark, I
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  got the fuck out. But he was still in there.
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  And I was like, I can't have this motherfucker beat me. And, yo,
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  I got back in. Nice. You know what I mean?
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  And I got some footage of that. I think I
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  stayed in. I don't think it was three minutes, but
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  I think I really impressed myself because I'm super anti-cold.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: I run hot.
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  Speaker 1: I stay hot. I'm the hot part of getting, you know,
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  when my wife is cold, she just put her hand
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  on me and I'm the heater. So cold is like
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  something that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't enjoy it. But there's a little mind game
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  that goes on. And the mind game is almost immediately like, oh,
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  fuck this. Let's just let's get out of here. Let's
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  get out of here. You got to ignore that and
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  just concentrate on breathing. So what I do is I
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  breathe to a count of 10. So I do this one, two, three, four.
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  And I just concentrate on the numbers. And then by
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  the time I get to 10, it's basically like a
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  minute and I'm relaxed. And then I just settle in there.
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  It's just you concentrate on breathing and don't think about
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  that part of you that wants to get out. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So I think I'm going to try a cold shower.
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  Speaker 2: It's really good. Cold shower in New York is great
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  if you like in the winter because that's real cold.
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  That's real cold. Like that's like I used to take
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  cold showers. And my friend Bob Caffarella, he used to
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  do this at our Taekwondo school. He would take cold
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  showers after training. And I was like, that guy is
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  a fucking animal. And I tried it a couple of times,
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  but I was a bitch. I did it like 15
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  seconds and I jumped out. But he would just stay
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  there in the freezing cold winter, cold water, and just
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  wash himself. And I was like, this guy's an animal, man.
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  Speaker 1: I think my brother, Kung Lee, I haven't seen Kung
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  Lee in years.
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  Speaker 2: Kung Lee the fighter?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I remember we was, because we did a movie years
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  ago in China, but he was the cold plunger of
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  the crew. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Kung, he's ahead of the curve on all that shit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's just, it's the mental thing. is really where
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  it benefits you. And not just while you're in it,
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  like doing it because you don't want to do it,
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  but when you get out, you feel so good. Your
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  brain just is flooded with all these endorphins. You feel
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  so good. And it lasts for hours and hours.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to revisit that.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's numbers on the dopamine increase, but I
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  forget what they are off the top of my head.
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  But there's a giant increase in dopamine that lasts like
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  two to three hours after you're getting out of the
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  cold plunge.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: I know you're a longtime martial arts student, and I
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  think anybody that does martial arts for a long time
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  realizes that it is as much for your mind as
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  it is for anything else.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just a workout. It's a workout, but it's
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  also like there's something about going through the motions of
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  martial arts and training in martial arts. It requires so
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  much concentration, and it requires so much of your focus.
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  that the rest of the world just kind of fades
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  away and the impact of it is relaxed. Right. Because
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  of that.
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  Speaker 1: It's mental, physical, and spiritual.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's emotional.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's will. You know, there's an esoteric thing, you know,
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  seven planes of energies or five stages of consciousness. I
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  don't know if you ever came across these type of terms,
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  but probably have. But sometimes we get stuck on just,
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  the three dimensions, you know what I mean? Just three planes,
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  you know, and you don't get to the emotional. You
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  don't get to the will part of it. You don't
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  get to the realization, the control, right? If you could
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  get to realization, then you can control what's going on
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  because you realize what it is. It's almost like you
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  can now have the foresight of what it is. And
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  then if you could get to that type of plane
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  of energy, then the possibilities become infinite. Because you realize
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  that you, like they say, we all have a free will, right?
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  But then you realize that the will can be controlled, right?
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  You also realize that with a strong will, you can
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  control others as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because some people are walking around with weak wills.
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  Speaker 2: That's how you start a cult.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, by having the strongest will. Come here. Yeah, hold on.
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  I do have a film and shit, right? Called One
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  Spoon of Chocolate.
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  Speaker 2: I watched half of it. I had a problem. There
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  was a problem with the early screener. I was mirroring
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  it on my television, and it kept breaking up. It
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  kept fucking up, where the sound would cut in and
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  cut out. And I did it a couple of times.
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  and then the screener ran out, because I guess.
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  Speaker 1: You can only watch it a few times.
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  Speaker 2: So then I had to contact your people, and then
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  they gave me another one, but then they gave me
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  one on Vimeo, and I watched that in the gym today.
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  So I watched the first half of the movie, and
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  I'm going to watch the second half. Oh, good.
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  Speaker 1: Take your time. Take your time. It's a crazy one.
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  It's a fun watch. It's a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 2: And you did it with Tarantino.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes. Which is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: And it seems like it's got a Tarantino flavor to it.
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  Speaker 1: But I brought it up just to say that there's
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  a character– Who actually takes ice plunges, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: The bad guy. Yeah, the villain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So you're talking about cults and things. In a way,
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  there's a scene where when we introduce him, you could
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  tell that everybody else there are bending to his will, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: He shows them how to do this and, you know,
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  you do this and you do that. And then there's
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  the fucking, I guess, the weak Will guy, and he's like,
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  and that's why Jimmy's the fucking king, man.
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  Speaker 2: I laughed at that.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly. So that's the point I'm making is that,
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  so Will can control, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But if you realize yourself and have that self-realization, self-actualization,
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  you gain control over yourself, you know what I mean,
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  and control yourself. Your planes of energy. So we're talking
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  about martial arts. And martial arts help you achieve that goal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. My instructor used to say that martial arts are
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  a vehicle for developing your human potential. I like that.
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  It's so difficult that in learning how to get– I
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  don't like the term mastery because I don't think you
• 17:32
  ever really master martial arts. But in learning martial arts,
• 17:36
  the difficulty that's involved in that, it expands your potential
• 17:39
  in everything that you do.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. And for me, I actually, you know,
• 17:44
  I always tell people on a physical level, I don't
• 17:48
  know if I'm good or not, to be honest. You
• 17:49
  know what I mean? I took up some Hungar and Shaolin,
• 17:53
  of course, a little bit of Wing Chun here and there.
• 17:56
  But I don't claim to be like a martial art fighter.
• 18:01
  But I will claim to be a martial artist because
• 18:03
  of the mind, because the way I think, because the
• 18:06
  way it allowed me to think, you know. It's like
• 18:10
  I have probably 20 books on Tai Chi, and I
• 18:13
  read them. And so I understand it, the application of it.
• 18:18
  Like there's a meditation called the Eight Pieces of Brocade.
• 18:20
  You ever come across that one? No.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: What's the word, brocade?
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, brocade, meaning blockage.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: So it's eight ways to unblock yourself, like to unblock
• 18:32
  your chi. One of the first ones, of course, you
• 18:35
  sit in lotus, and you just take your thumbs, and
• 18:37
  you bang on the back of your– basically your medulla obglanta. Like,
• 18:41
  even if you could touch this real quick, if you
• 18:43
  don't mind.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Back of your head?
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right here.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: You see how loud that is?
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: So you cover your ears and you bang on those
• 18:52
  drums first thing in the morning.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Ooh.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And it opens up some of your chakras.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Ooh.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: So... That feels weird. Because it's loud. It's loud as
• 19:06
  it could be, right? Yeah. The point being made By
• 19:09
  studying all these different books, it's like the physical part,
• 19:13
  of course, is exciting. But to me, the mental part
• 19:17
  became more exciting, the more that I can apply. Therefore,
• 19:21
  I can apply it to my music. I can apply
• 19:23
  it to business. I can apply it to how to
• 19:25
  be a better father and all those things versus me
• 19:30
  just punching and trying to break a brick. You know
• 19:32
  what I mean?
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's Tai Chi, right? It's all mental. Tai
• 19:37
  Chi is a martial arts thing. Sort of. I mean
• 19:40
  I guess like you would learn how to move your
• 19:42
  body better. That could kind of help you applied in
• 19:44
  a self-defense situation. But it's much more of a mental
• 19:48
  martial art. Yeah. in San Francisco, I used to watch
• 19:51
  people in the park. These old Chinese people would go
• 19:53
  out there and practice Tai Chi. I was like, what
• 19:56
  are they doing? I was a kid. I was eight.
• 19:59
  I was dumb. But I was like, what is the
• 20:01
  purpose of doing this all day?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: And then– Once you do it a few times, you're like, oh,
• 20:06
  this is not easy to do. And then in doing that,
• 20:09
  it cleans your mind of everything else that's going on
• 20:12
  because all you're concentrating on is these movements, these very
• 20:15
  difficult movements. They're not stupid. They've been doing this for
• 20:18
  thousands of years for a reason because it helps them.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Well, the crazy thing about Tai Chi, I'll give you
• 20:26
  a little information about it that you may or may
• 20:28
  not know about. The idea with Tai Chi is that
• 20:32
  if you master it or if you have that control
• 20:34
  over it, you should be able to move 1,000 pounds
• 20:38
  with just four ounces of energy. So the idea of
• 20:41
  them pushing constantly means that something ever came to them,
• 20:46
  they pushed that aside without even thinking about it, right?
• 20:49
  Because just four ounces of energy can divert. It's almost
• 20:52
  like tripping a giant. I think it's great on paper.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Actual giant energy. I don't care how much Tai Chi
• 21:01
  you know. A dude who's like a 300-pound All-American wrestler.
• 21:04
  He comes charging out. You ain't going to use four
• 21:06
  ounces of energy and divert him.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to argue that. The four ounces you
• 21:10
  use is just step to the side.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody who says that, step to the side.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: It ain't easy, of course.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: That shit doesn't work. It doesn't work. They grab you.
• 21:19
  You're not getting up.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: But then another, well, I mean, a fight is a fight.
• 21:25
  That's a difference between a martial art and a fight, right?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Well, it's also just the reality of physics. I mean,
• 21:31
  it's one thing if you're doing that to an unskilled person,
• 21:35
  but to a skilled person, really you need to know
• 21:38
  the skill that they're applying. You know what I mean?
• 21:43
  That's the difference between someone who's practicing something that is
• 21:48
  great in theory, but I mean, it's not just In theory,
• 21:52
  like physically and mentally, it's great for you, but it's
• 21:55
  just it's not the right application in terms of actual
• 21:58
  hand to hand combat.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, a fight is a fight. I don't care.
• 22:01
  I mean, in my opinion, a fight is a fight.
• 22:06
  I don't care which I don't care, you know, if
• 22:10
  you're the best boxer in the world that knock motherfuckers
• 22:15
  out like like like one of our greatest fighters, Mike Tyson,
• 22:17
  who wasn't just that he was a fighter. He was
• 22:21
  a fighter, right? Of course he had a skill set
• 22:24
  and he was well-trained. But in the peak of his fights,
• 22:32
  I don't care how much somebody else trained, when he
• 22:35
  got in the ring to fight, they weren't better fighters.
• 22:38
  They could have been better boxers, better athletes, better whatever.
• 22:41
  So I think a fight, and this is my opinion,
• 22:44
  it's an instinct. It's a, you know, like would you.
• 22:49
  Like when Mike bit his ear, right?
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: That's a fight. That has nothing to do with boxing.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I think that was frustration, you know, unfortunately. You know,
• 23:01
  that was Evander was beating him up. Yeah. I don't
• 23:05
  think he liked it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Evander was beating him up professionally, skillfully in boxing. But
• 23:12
  then Mike went to fighting.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: And fighting, like in MMA, you can't fight in MMA.
• 23:17
  You can't fight in no sport, right?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: You ain't supposed to hit the nuts, right? You ain't
• 23:22
  supposed to.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I know, which is crazy because in a fight, the
• 23:26
  nuts are one of the best spots to hit.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: In the eyes.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: You ain't supposed to poke the eyes.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: My friend Eddie had an idea for a comedy sketch
• 23:35
  called Ultimate Sack Fighting where it's just dudes and just
• 23:39
  the nuts are the only target. It's amazing how vulnerable
• 23:45
  we really are. Our balls just sitting on the outside
• 23:47
  like that. Yeah, fights, you poke in the eye. I mean,
• 23:50
  you poke in the eye in an MMA fight, the
• 23:52
  referee stops the time, and you get a point deducted.
• 23:54
  But it's a very good technique in an actual fight.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's what I meant by saying, like, so
• 24:00
  you could train and train and train, but when it's
• 24:04
  life against life or life or death, it's a whole
• 24:07
  other chamber of fighting for survival. You know what I mean?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: There's some horrible videos of no-rules fights. They have these
• 24:15
  no-rules fights in Russia and a bunch of other places.
• 24:17
  but they do them outside in a field, and these
• 24:19
  guys fight, and this wrestler gets this guy down, and
• 24:22
  he just shoves his thumbs in his eyeballs. He gets
• 24:25
  on top of him, and he just grabs his face
• 24:27
  and shoves, and the guy's just screaming. He's trying to
• 24:30
  move his head away, and he taps his blood all
• 24:32
  over his eyeballs.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Party over.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Party's over, yeah. You realize how devastating that is, the
• 24:38
  pain and just the.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: And you know what's so crazy? The person who did it,
• 24:43
  maybe the guy who got the chance to do it,
• 24:46
  it's not easy. and tell me if you agree with this,
• 24:49
  you could disagree, but it's not easy to do that either. No,
• 24:53
  I don't mean not easy that you can't do it.
• 24:56
  It's not easy for your spirit to do it. Right.
• 24:59
  You see what I mean?
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: It's evil. Yeah.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: So, so that's, that's a whole nother chamber. It's like, yo,
• 25:04
  will you do it?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Will you blind a man?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Will you do it?
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: And it's like, maybe you won't. And, but if he
• 25:12
  will and you won't. Right.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: That's the, that's what I, That's when my seafood says
• 25:18
  that about here. Cause he's on the train. Nobody had
• 25:21
  a fight. He said, I can't teach nobody how to fight.
• 25:23
  You know what I mean? I could teach you how
• 25:25
  to build your body, how to build your chi, how
• 25:27
  to build some strength, but a fight, bro, it's different.
• 25:33
  There's no rules. It's life and death. It's like, and, and,
• 25:36
  and your will going back to the will, what we
• 25:38
  talked about, your willpower, uh, has better be strong to survive.
• 25:43
  I love what Bruce Lee said, uh, He practiced the
• 25:46
  art of not fighting. You know what I mean? So
• 25:49
  I told that to my son. I was like, yo, bro, listen,
• 25:52
  if you can run, bro, run.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, be up out of there. If a motherfucker
• 25:56
  chase you, you know, you got to think on something.
• 26:00
  But if you could just, yo, that's right now. Yo, Riz,
• 26:03
  you want to fight? Yo, you know what, Joe?
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I'll see you later, bro.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I know there's too many people that get into fights
• 26:11
  for no reason and you wind up changing the rest
• 26:13
  of your life. You got a scar that's going to
• 26:15
  be with you forever or you accidentally kill somebody. It's stupid.
• 26:19
  It's a stupid thing to do. And there's so many
• 26:21
  men that feel like they just have to prove themselves,
• 26:24
  which is what a gym is for. Go to the gym.
• 26:26
  Go to the gym. Work out with other fighters. Train.
• 26:30
  Get beat up. Realize where you're at. Get a realistic
• 26:34
  sense of your actual ability and then improve upon them.
• 26:37
  But don't go getting in street fights. Please, God. Don't
• 26:39
  do it. Don't do it.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: And for me, I put all my aggression and all
• 26:45
  my energy into my art. You know, you think about
• 26:47
  some of my early songs, you know, Wayne the motherfucking Rockers, bro.
• 26:53
  That was like, I used to have, I had like
• 26:57
  a problem of, I don't know if it was anger
• 27:00
  management maybe, but I would just like, I don't know,
• 27:05
  like I needed to hear the sound of breaking glass.
• 27:07
  I used to scream, like Jizzle was like, yo, this
• 27:10
  dude Because I was, and I realized that I had
• 27:14
  so much anger in me that, you know, I couldn't
• 27:19
  really get it out. I was kind of hulkish in
• 27:21
  a way, like Bruce Banner or some shit, right? But
• 27:25
  then through music, it started to come out, and it
• 27:28
  started to come out. And by the time I got
• 27:30
  to Wu-Tang Forever, a lot of my anger was in
• 27:37
  the song. If you want beef, then bring the rockets.
• 27:41
  And like all that stage and all that energy. So
• 27:44
  it really helped me. And then I realized, bringing up
• 27:47
  today to my new film, I'm watching it and I'm
• 27:51
  just like, okay, once again, I took all the anger
• 27:56
  and I put it into the art.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: There's actually a character in the film, his name is Unique.
• 28:06
  Did you catch that when you saw the piece? Unique
• 28:08
  is the name of Old Dirty Bastard. His original name
• 28:12
  was A-Son Unique. And so that was my way of
• 28:17
  giving homage to him by naming the lead character of
• 28:22
  my new film Unique. And it says in the film,
• 28:25
  he says, you got a problem with anger management. He says, yeah,
• 28:31
  I'm working on that. And what I love about the
• 28:36
  art of it is that The problem that he had
• 28:39
  with anger management was his reaction. Like a lot of us,
• 28:43
  we just react too much. We react before we think, right?
• 28:48
  Because they say a man could think seven times before
• 28:51
  he reacts. That's how fast your mind can move, but
• 28:53
  we go in that first impulse. But this character, he
• 28:58
  holds the anger until one morning. He's at a veteran home, right?
• 29:05
  And he's sitting there, and he's having breakfast, and he
• 29:07
  has this can.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: You've seen this thing, right? And he's like, he digs
• 29:11
  the spoon in there, and it's like fucking, there's nothing
• 29:14
  in it. It's not even, it's like one spoon of
• 29:16
  chocolate in it. And he gets what? Angry. And he
• 29:18
  bangs it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Boom!
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Who the fuck left one spoon of chocolate in the can?
• 29:22
  But then it took an old man that was settled
• 29:26
  to tell him, one.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Spoon of chocolate changed a whole glass of milk.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: It changed a whole glass of milk. And then you
• 29:33
  notice that character from that. Then he calmed down. He
• 29:35
  started reading to the kids. And that was kind of
• 29:39
  me taking some of my personality, some of old Doty's personality,
• 29:43
  some of the personalities that I see in my community
• 29:45
  and putting it into this character to say like, yo, sometime, yo,
• 29:50
  calm down, listen to the wisdom of your elders, right?
• 29:54
  Have you ever in your life, I'm going to ask you,
• 29:57
  have you ever like come across some old person, whether
• 30:01
  it's a homeless guy, a devout guy, your uncle, somebody
• 30:04
  that you kind of didn't look up to in no way,
• 30:09
  just kind of they was, but then they say something
• 30:10
  to you that's profound and changed your life? Oh, man.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to find an example. I mean, I've definitely
• 30:18
  gotten a lot of advice from old timers. But definitely people,
• 30:23
  especially people that have done a lot of things. You know,
• 30:26
  people that have accomplished things and made mistakes and Recovered
• 30:29
  from their mistakes. Right. Yeah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, actually, because I was maybe 11, and there
• 30:37
  was like a dope fiend that was dating my aunt,
• 30:44
  and he was at the table and shit, and he
• 30:46
  was like nodding, but he was kind of in a chamber, bro.
• 30:50
  You know kids, you're looking at this guy and shit.
• 30:54
  And he said something about like, You know, I don't care, man.
• 30:58
  You got to get knowledge, man. You got to get knowledge, man.
• 31:02
  The gods is right, man. You got to get knowledge.
• 31:06
  I started reading it since that day, bro.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Really? Seriously. The dope fiend inspired you to read?
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because he said you got to get... What happened
• 31:16
  was he had knowledge of self, I guess, back before
• 31:18
  the drugs hit him. And now he's like dead. He
• 31:21
  was like, he said, you got to get knowledge. The
• 31:24
  gods are right. The gods are right. And so... What
• 31:27
  was he on?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: What was the drug of choice?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: He was on fucking, he shot that shit up. Heroin?
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He was on heroin. That's the old days back
• 31:34
  when they shoot it. Now everybody's on pills.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. I never, I don't know about that.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know about it either, but I mean, I
• 31:42
  don't know about it personally, but that's, it's essentially what
• 31:45
  oxycodone is. All those pain pills that you see all
• 31:47
  these people dying of.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Right. Opioids.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Opioids.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: The number one problem. I mean, I think the deaths
• 31:55
  in America, it's upwards of 70,000 a year. I know
• 31:59
  it's crazy.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Just from overdosing on pills.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And most of it happened because of the Sackler family.
• 32:07
  The what? The Sackler family. This one family that convinced
• 32:11
  people that taking these incredibly potent opioids. Did you ever
• 32:17
  see that Netflix docu-series, Painkiller?
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that one.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: It's really good. It's all about the Sackler family. Peter
• 32:24
  Berg made it. Same guy. You know Peter?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I know Peter.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: He's great. Lone Survivor made a bunch of excellent movies.
• 32:32
  He's great. He made this documentary on documenting how– well,
• 32:37
  it's not a documentary. It's a docudrama series, a recreation,
• 32:41
  showing how this one family, they wanted to figure out
• 32:46
  a way where they could sell opioids to everyone. And
• 32:49
  the way they did it was like giving people– pain
• 32:52
  management tools, giving people medication that you could be on forever.
• 32:57
  And they made it and they pushed it through these
• 33:01
  different doctors and they had all these hot ladies who
• 33:04
  were representatives of the pharmaceutical drug companies that come to
• 33:07
  the doctor and they were the reps that would come
• 33:10
  and sell the things. Yeah, I mean, really. And they
• 33:13
  were all financially incentivized to sell it and they tried
• 33:17
  to pretend that it wasn't addictive. And They lied about
• 33:20
  that and they got who knows how many thousands and
• 33:23
  thousands and thousands of people ruined their lives because of it.
• 33:26
  Like I said, 70,000 die every year just in America
• 33:30
  just from opioids.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: That's crazy, bro.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: From overdoses. I mean and how many more would there
• 33:34
  be of that if it wasn't for Narcan?
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: That's the counter, right?
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the stuff that the EMTs give you. They
• 33:41
  find you overdosing. They give you Narcan and it kills
• 33:44
  it and brings you back to life. Yeah. That one family,
• 33:48
  no one has gone to jail. No one has gone
• 33:51
  to jail. I mean I don't even know how much
• 33:53
  they've been fined. But if it wasn't for what they
• 33:57
  did and, again, well-documented in that Netflix series, it's horrific, man.
• 34:03
  It's really terrifying because it's not just the people that
• 34:06
  died and the people that are addicted. It's all the
• 34:08
  family members that were affected by them, all the children
• 34:11
  of those people and what happened with their lives, all
• 34:13
  the spouses and the brothers and sisters of those people
• 34:16
  and what happened with their lives.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. When you were saying that, the imagery in
• 34:21
  my head was that scene in American Gangster when it
• 34:25
  was Thanksgiving and they showed Frank Lucas at the table
• 34:31
  with his whole family. They had a nice spread of food.
• 34:35
  And then the camera went and showed all the families
• 34:38
  that was hooked on the blue magic drug. They had
• 34:42
  the lady dying over here, the kid looking at her
• 34:45
  mother dead.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: So....
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: The difference, I guess... That's the image that came to
• 34:51
  my head when you said that. But I guess the
• 34:52
  difference is, in that particular case, somebody goes to jail
• 34:57
  and pays the price for the crime. But in this
• 34:59
  particular case, you're saying that nobody... Nobody went to jail.
• 35:03
  They did it legally, somehow or another. They pimped it
• 35:06
  out and then sold it.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: To everybody legally. I mean, it's sick. They're the biggest
• 35:12
  drug dealers that have ever existed. Fuck all these street
• 35:14
  drug dealers. I mean, these guys... killed 70 000 people
• 35:18
  a year during who knows how many years and it
• 35:20
  was probably more than that right before they figured out
• 35:22
  narcan and and part of it is also because people
• 35:25
  get addicted to it and then they get stuff from
• 35:27
  the cartel that has fentanyl in it and that's why
• 35:29
  they're dying but there's a bunch of people that just
• 35:31
  died from straight up overdose of opioids too it's terrifying.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: And and it's over the counter yeah and yeah.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: No it's not over the counter you have to get
• 35:40
  prescribed but doctors are happy to prescribe it for you
• 35:43
  i got my nose fixed i had a deviated septum
• 35:46
  And they cleaned it out. I was leaving the doctor's
• 35:50
  office and he gave me two prescriptions for opioids. And
• 35:53
  I said, but I'm not in pain. He goes, but
• 35:57
  you probably will be. And I go, but is it
• 35:59
  going to be worse than this right now? Like we're
• 36:01
  just out of the operation. My nose was– I have
• 36:03
  like these things stuffed up your nose to keep your
• 36:07
  nostrils open. And I was like, are you sure it's
• 36:10
  going to be worse than this? And he gave me
• 36:12
  two prescriptions. And I went home and I was like–
• 36:15
  I don't need these. Like I didn't tell him, but
• 36:18
  I'm like, this is not, but this guy was giving
• 36:21
  me two different opioids to take.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: You would have been, he would have had, you would
• 36:26
  have went back.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I probably would have been hooked.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know a lot of people that got hooked, man.
• 36:31
  I'm not, I'm under no illusion that I'm stronger than
• 36:34
  those people that I would have figured out a way
• 36:36
  to not get hooked. Right. So many people that I
• 36:38
  know got hooked.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: So you're saying like, let me just go back on this.
• 36:41
  Cause I actually don't take, nothing bro like yeah i
• 36:45
  drink tea or you know i'm very um i mean
• 36:48
  i do pump an asthma inhaler yeah when i get
• 36:52
  when i get it because i had asthma my whole
• 36:55
  life other than that i don't really take no tylenol
• 36:59
  nothing bro yeah fuck all that stuff but you're saying
• 37:02
  though at the end of the day let's take him
• 37:05
  doing this back at you the doctor basically sling gave
• 37:11
  you some free shit yeah To kind of have you
• 37:13
  as a customer. Because when crack came out.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I think he's financially incentivized.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I think they're financially incentivized to prescribe you this medicine.
• 37:20
  Because he didn't say, if you're in pain, contact me
• 37:24
  and I'll fill you a prescription. Because it's just my nose, man.
• 37:27
  It's just the nose. It's not that big a deal. Like,
• 37:30
  I slept fine. It was nothing.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: And I tried to tell him. I'm like, I don't
• 37:35
  understand why you're giving me. We had a conversation. I go,
• 37:38
  is it going to be worse than it is right now?
• 37:40
  Like right now, I'm not in any pain. He goes,
• 37:42
  it could probably get worse. I'm like, how much worse?
• 37:44
  Because right now I don't feel anything. It's like nothing.
• 37:47
  It's like mildly uncomfortable because I have these tubes stuffed
• 37:50
  up my nose. But this is not, this doesn't require heroin.
• 37:54
  This is crazy.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not laughing at you. I'm not laughing.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: But it is kind of nuts that they're financially incentivized.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Let me go back to the film. No, because in
• 38:08
  the film, there's a... There's an article that iHero opens
• 38:14
  up in a paper. It's not the same subject, but
• 38:17
  it's a medical thing. It's just like this particular county
• 38:22
  is leading in this particular process because there's money in it.
• 38:28
  If there's money, sadly, and that's a movie, but sadly,
• 38:35
  if there's money involved, People can become insidious, right? People
• 38:40
  can become like, yeah, you could get strung out. You
• 38:44
  could get strung out. I don't sold. You know, I
• 38:48
  got I vote 20 prescriptions this week and they're not cheap, right?
• 38:52
  How much is the prescription when you fill it? Is
• 38:54
  that like 40 bucks, 100 bucks?
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not cheap. But more importantly, the
• 38:58
  doctor gets incentivized. When I hear some dark shit, I
• 39:02
  was reading about this doctor that was an oncologist. So
• 39:05
  he's dealing with cancer patients. And he was giving chemotherapy
• 39:09
  to people that didn't have cancer because it would get
• 39:12
  him more money.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: You kind of fucked me up with that. Yeah. And
• 39:16
  you kind of hit my emotion because I just lost
• 39:18
  my brother to cancer, my brother to power.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Let's take a moment.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, it's one of the
• 39:28
  most profitable medications, unfortunately, for physicians. Well, not unfortunately. Look,
• 39:35
  if it saves your life, that's wonderful. But the reality
• 39:37
  is this one doctor that I'm discussing, this one doctor
• 39:41
  decided that he was going to get paid more by
• 39:43
  just giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer. So
• 39:47
  he diagnosed a bunch of people with cancer that didn't
• 39:50
  have it. He said, oh, unfortunately, you have cancer. The
• 39:52
  good news is we get you on chemotherapy right away.
• 39:55
  We think we can kick it. And they were regular
• 39:57
  people with nothing wrong with them, and this fucking guy
• 40:00
  gave them poison.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: You know how much the chemo costs?
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: It's very expensive.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about $ 30, 000 to $ 60, 000 a hit.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not surprised. And the doctors profit off of that.
• 40:13
  It's one of the most profitable medications the doctors prescribe, unfortunately.
• 40:17
  And look, most doctors would never fucking imagine doing that
• 40:19
  in a million years. But this one doctor, like his
• 40:24
  thought process was, hey, this is how I get paid.
• 40:27
  You know, I'm dealing with all this overhead. I'm dealing
• 40:30
  with all this liability insurance. I'm dealing with medical school bills.
• 40:34
  I'm dealing with all this. Fuck this. I'm just going
• 40:36
  to start prescribing a little bit of chemotherapy here and
• 40:39
  there to people that don't actually have cancer. And I
• 40:41
  don't know how he got caught. I don't know what happened.
• 40:44
  I think it was just there was some red flag. Yeah,
• 40:47
  they got him. He's in jail. There was some red
• 40:49
  flag where they noticed, like, why are so many people
• 40:52
  getting cancer with this one doctor? Like, why is his
• 40:55
  number so high? It's not representative of the norm.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Of the percentage that is. Right. That's crazy, bro.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: But that's what's hard to imagine is that money would
• 41:05
  incentivize someone to tell a person. Like, how many people
• 41:10
  just commit suicide because they think they're dying of cancer?
• 41:13
  And they go, fuck, I don't want to do this.
• 41:15
  I don't want to suffer. I'm just going to fucking
• 41:17
  go out on my own terms. You know? Yeah, well,
• 41:20
  how many people, how many people's lives did that ruin?
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't, well, first of all, that was trouble.
• 41:26
  I had to kind of emotionally rebound from that because
• 41:29
  it's just, you kind of made me think like, you know, like,
• 41:33
  you know, we don't have the answer to shit, you
• 41:35
  know what I mean? And things happen in life and
• 41:38
  sometimes you just like, you know, but I do have
• 41:41
  instinct and I always, you know, I just felt that
• 41:44
  something wasn't, I don't know, I won't even go there. But,
• 41:49
  You said that money, why would he do it for
• 41:52
  the money? It's like, yo, everything is for the money, bro.
• 41:55
  Motherfuckers is doing, you know, cash rules. Everything around me.
• 42:00
  You know what I mean?
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Get the money. Yeah. Dollar, dollar bill.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And people are stuck on that. You know what I mean?
• 42:06
  The goal, hopefully, because we live in a capitalist society. Well.
• 42:09
  But the goal should be that cash doesn't rule you.
• 42:12
  Money shouldn't rule you. Right.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: We need it.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know, food, clothing, and shelter.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: You're going to need that. There ain't nothing given here.
• 42:20
  But it doesn't surprise me, you know, that that's the
• 42:27
  motivation for insidious behavior, you know. I'm going to go
• 42:33
  back a little history here. We're working on another project
• 42:38
  where we tap into this kind of fantasy. I'll just
• 42:43
  write off my imagination. But I had this family. Their
• 42:51
  ancestors are from Congo. And in the Congo, they trace
• 42:56
  their ancestry back to the Leopold days. And you think
• 42:59
  about the Leopold days, millions of Africans were mined, chopped
• 43:06
  off their arms and shit. All because the gag was
• 43:11
  they wanted them to work and to get the rubber
• 43:13
  from the rubber tree. So the rubber at one point
• 43:17
  became the main gold of the world.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: And King Leopold went over to Congo and you get
• 43:25
  Tarzan out of this shit. That's the that's the the
• 43:28
  fictional story. But he goes over and I think they
• 43:31
  said at minimum two million people. But I think it's
• 43:37
  five million that were just mined or killed. just for
• 43:44
  the economic profit of what those rubber trees was offering to, uh,
• 43:51
  Western civilization.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Right now with cobalt, I had this guy said, Darth
• 43:55
  Cara on the podcast. Uh, he wrote a book, Jimmy,
• 43:58
  do you remember what the name of that book was? His, uh,
• 44:02
  book on cobalt mining in the Congo. So cobalt is
• 44:05
  a critical mineral that's used in cell phone batteries and
• 44:08
  many electronics. And, uh, That is cobalt red, the blood
• 44:12
  of the Congo powers our lives. It's a very disturbing conversation.
• 44:17
  And he had– he snuck in cameras and got some
• 44:22
  footage of these people doing what– you think that this
• 44:26
  stuff is mined in some sort of industrial process. Look
• 44:29
  at this. This is how these people are mining. And
• 44:32
  you've got women who have babies on their backs and
• 44:36
  all this cobalt that they're knocking out of the ground
• 44:39
  is completely toxic. Some of them just have like a
• 44:42
  bandana over their mouth that they're using to protect themselves
• 44:45
  from it. But look how deep that is with human
• 44:48
  beings that are just pulling cobalt. They live on dirt floors.
• 44:52
  They live at the lowest level of poverty imaginable. They
• 44:56
  don't have clean water. They don't have good food. And
• 44:59
  they are pulling out a mineral that's essential to the
• 45:04
  most technologically sophisticated aspect of our society, which is our
• 45:08
  Connectivity through the internet, through cell phones. And this is
• 45:11
  at the, which is kind of crazy if you think
• 45:13
  of like the most technologically sophisticated aspect of our society.
• 45:18
  If you follow it all the way down to the
• 45:20
  very bottom of the food chain, you've got slave labor.
• 45:24
  And that's a giant percentage of the cobalt that's in
• 45:27
  our cell phones and our electronics is coming out of
• 45:31
  this place.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: You know, so I never seen that before.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: A lot of them are run by China. Yeah, and
• 45:37
  it's very scary, man.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I've never seen it, but I wrote a lyric that
• 45:42
  touches upon it. I've never seen those images before.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: He's got video. See if you can find the video.
• 45:46
  The video's dark.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I think my lyric said, let's see if I can
• 45:50
  remember my lyric. It was a song I wrote called
• 45:52
  The Fate of the World Is In Your Hand. It
• 45:55
  was me and DJ Scratch. I knew that Cobalt, or
• 46:02
  I knew that they was getting the mineral from Congo.
• 46:07
  but I didn't know it like that. It was something like,
• 46:10
  you know, as an artist, you're a fucking antenna, right?
• 46:12
  You get shit. But I said something. I said, I'm
• 46:15
  trying to remember the lyric I said. It was like, hey,
• 46:21
  could you pull up the lyrics to Rizzo's song, The
• 46:24
  Fate of the World, as well? After you do this?
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, play that video real quick, please. Look at this.
• 46:30
  How crazy is this? By the way, all this scene,
• 46:34
  almost biblical toil, the prize is cobalt. And here's the thing.
• 46:37
  All this shit is super toxic. So all these people
• 46:41
  are breathing in this insanely toxic dust. And they're knocking
• 46:45
  it out of the ground with hammers and carrying it
• 46:46
  off in bags.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Look at this shit, yo. Yeah. This looks biblical, bro.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: And imagine how fucking heavy these bags are. And they're
• 46:54
  doing this all day long. Look at these guys struggling
• 46:56
  to pick those bags up. And they're carrying this shit
• 47:00
  all day long. And they're just knocking it to the ground,
• 47:02
  trying to pull out this cobalt. And the thing is
• 47:05
  like this is what we need to power our phones,
• 47:09
  which is so crazy. If you think about all these
• 47:12
  people that are virtue signaling about how wonderful and ethical
• 47:15
  and moral they are, they're doing it on a phone
• 47:18
  that is literally powered by slave labor.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: And it's crazy that this is going on in 2026
• 47:25
  and most people aren't even aware of it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Well, this is– well, you're back. Like I just said,
• 47:30
  the project I'm working on now, we just talk about it.
• 47:33
  We're tracing it back to the rubber tree, but it's
• 47:36
  still going on.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Still going on. Still going on. And that's just cobalt.
• 47:40
  There's other stuff that they're mining there, too. It's very similar.
• 47:44
  There's other what they call conflict minerals.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Pull up my lyric for The Fate of the World.
• 47:50
  I just want to just point out what I said there,
• 47:53
  if you got that on Genius or something.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Here it is.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it says, A Thousand Years of Darkness, The World
• 48:03
  Got Struck with Sorrow, Hallow Be Thy Name, We Need
• 48:05
  a Better Tomorrow. Go to the second verse. Let me see.
• 48:11
  Let me see. Wait. Oh, no, wrong song. That's what
• 48:17
  it is. Listen, I got too many songs. It's called.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: You forgot the name of your own song? That's hilarious.
• 48:26
  You got too many songs.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: What's the other one on that one? Go open that. No,
• 48:33
  not that one. Go to the other, what do you
• 48:36
  call it? Go to the album title. Yeah, hit the
• 48:39
  album Saturday afternoon. You're going to edit some of this, right?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: No.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: You're going to edit? Okay, well, y'all going to bear
• 48:45
  with us.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon, Kung Fu Theater.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: No, go to the, oh, it's called The Great Fisherman.
• 48:54
  Let me see the titles of the songs.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Fisherman.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pull that one up. Put those lyrics up.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: So what is Genius? Genius is it shows all the lyrics?
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: That's what it is? And then it actually has a
• 49:07
  song underneath it. Oh, that's cool. I didn't even know
• 49:09
  that existed.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: People can annotate and tell you what people were meant
• 49:12
  by what they said.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: On Genius?
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, cool.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, right there. There you go.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Look.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: The great fisherman, a fisher of men, are trying to
• 49:19
  make a remedy for the elixir of sin, a premonition.
• 49:22
  We need divine intervention. The whole world is a stage,
• 49:27
  so it's time for intermission. In the middle of the
• 49:30
  Congo jungle, there's a combo of concentrated elements that make
• 49:34
  the world's phones glow. Wow. But they got a small
• 49:37
  zone for their phones, though. Because they don't even got
• 49:40
  reception out there. But we used to communicate just banging
• 49:43
  on the bongo. That's when the village was more motherly
• 49:46
  and more brotherly. But then the dust came through and
• 49:49
  killed them all for the rubber tree. King Leopold City
• 49:52
  was built from a sea of gold. And the Resurrecta
• 49:55
  still trading on a silky road. Yeah.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Those are some bars.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Respect. But that's not doing that to show off or nothing.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: But it's real. Yeah.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: But you just gave me, but you gave me like
• 50:07
  the full... you gave me the connotation and the annotation
• 50:11
  of the lyric. Cause I didn't even see none. I
• 50:13
  never seen that before. Oh, that's crazy. I just, I
• 50:16
  just heard that they got to get it from there.
• 50:18
  And I knew the history of King Leopold, but I
• 50:21
  did not know that this is still, still, this is crazy.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's still going on and it'll continue going on
• 50:28
  as long as no light is shown on it. And
• 50:30
  this is what Siddharth Kaur was trying to do with
• 50:32
  his book. And you know, the, the tour that he
• 50:34
  was doing and doing podcasts and, trying to let me
• 50:37
  mean he risked his life man i mean they questioned
• 50:39
  him and he got very lucky that he got out
• 50:42
  of there with that footage right because they want to
• 50:45
  make sure that nobody knows about this shit they don't
• 50:48
  want any outrage they want the mining to keep going
• 50:50
  as planned i mean it's it's dark it's dark because
• 50:54
  it's a multi multi-billion dollar industry that's Powered by abject poverty.
• 51:01
  Probably trillion. Yeah.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: It's like you're just saying like if it's in all
• 51:05
  our phones, that means.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Not just our phones, but I think it's in a
• 51:08
  lot of electronics. I think it might be. Is cobalt
• 51:13
  in electric cars? I think they're trying to make new
• 51:19
  formulations of batteries without cobalt. So there's, Jamie, what is that?
• 51:25
  I know a lot of the Chinese cell phones are
• 51:27
  using a different battery technology. Instead of lithium ion, they
• 51:31
  have something else that's more dense.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Well, that's, yeah, cobalt's a critical component in lithium batteries.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, lithium ion batteries. What is, like, Oppo, there's a
• 51:45
  bunch of these new Chinese companies that have cell phones
• 51:48
  that have much more battery, like, instead of, like, Like
• 51:52
  a Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra has a 5000 milliamp battery
• 52:00
  in it. I think these Oppo phones have 7000 plus,
• 52:04
  but it's I think it's carbon silicon based batteries. I
• 52:10
  wonder if they have cobalt in them. You know, as
• 52:14
  technology for batteries goes. changes and advances they need different
• 52:20
  kinds of components in them but i mean then you're
• 52:23
  gonna find out where are they getting that shit from
• 52:25
  is that another like conflict mineral that they have people
• 52:29
  digging out of the ground with sticks.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: But the other thing to think about you know just
• 52:33
  okay let's say it is worth trillions of dollars like
• 52:36
  when do um the people who you know like if
• 52:40
  that's on my property bro you know what i'm saying
• 52:44
  it's my you're coming to my crib for it I
• 52:46
  should get paid off of that.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I should be– I mean– Well, you.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Know how it works. China comes in. A lot of
• 52:54
  these are Chinese-run. China comes in. They pay off the
• 52:57
  people that are in power in these areas, and those
• 53:00
  people will get wealthy. And then all the people that
• 53:02
  are the workers, they all get like– Pennies. As small
• 53:09
  a wage as you could possibly pay them to keep
• 53:11
  them alive because people live on dirt floors.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: No food. It's horrible. It's really dark, man, because it's
• 53:19
  what powers electronics, which is nuts because that's the most
• 53:23
  sophisticated aspect of our society in terms of technology.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Well, the government of those places, and not to get here,
• 53:29
  like I'm an artist and I'm a spiritual man, but
• 53:33
  they should be like, yo, hold on, bro.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Like in Alaska, right, there's a pipeline that goes through Alaska.
• 53:42
  You know about this pipeline, right? Sure. Sure. But the
• 53:44
  citizens of Alaska, they get a royalty for that.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Like if I'm in Congo and I got this cobalt
• 53:52
  as well as trillions and I got all these people,
• 53:55
  give them a royalty.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: 100%. If that was America, that would probably be the
• 53:59
  only way to do it. But obviously you couldn't pay
• 54:01
  people the way you pay people in the Congo in
• 54:03
  America anyway. We have laws. But this is also why
• 54:07
  they want illegal immigration. That's part of the reason why
• 54:09
  they like illegal immigration is because you don't have paperwork.
• 54:12
  You don't have to pay people what they're supposed to
• 54:13
  get paid. Do you pull that back up again, Jamie, please,
• 54:16
  about the silicon carbide batteries? So it seems like one
• 54:21
  of the reasons for utilizing this new technology is because
• 54:25
  it's not using as much cobalt. So advanced lithium ion
• 54:30
  technology using silicon to replace traditional graphite anodes offering roughly
• 54:35
  20% to 40% higher energy density and faster charging, especially
• 54:39
  in smartphones. Does it say anything? I thought the– Yeah,
• 54:42
  it did because I had cobalt at it. Yeah.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: So it has cobalt in it as well?
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: It enables more sustainable cobalt-reduced designs. So you have less cobalt.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Less, right.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: And it's more energy density. So these Chinese phones are, yeah,
• 55:00
  here it is, Honor Magic 5 Pro. A lot of
• 55:03
  these OnePlus 13, a lot of these Chinese-made Android phones.
• 55:09
  are using much more advanced battery technology.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: So they're trying to ease up on it a little bit, basically?
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. The question is, like, where
• 55:18
  are you getting everything else? Where's all the other shit
• 55:21
  that's in your phone? And how are you mining that?
• 55:23
  If you're hiding how you mine cobalt, how are you
• 55:26
  mining all the other stuff? Because they're all conflict minerals.
• 55:29
  And a lot of these minerals, unfortunately, are mined out
• 55:32
  of the third world. They find them in these places
• 55:34
  where people are really poor. And the people that live there,
• 55:37
  they don't benefit from it. Their lives don't get any better.
• 55:39
  In fact, they get worse because they get poisoned.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: But let me add some wisdom to that. The people
• 55:46
  got to realize that they are not poor, right? Because
• 55:51
  if that is valuable and you're standing on it, then
• 55:54
  you're standing on value.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: But that's why they keep them poor because they can't
• 55:58
  organize them.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: But think about the Holy Quran for a moment, right?
• 56:01
  Let me go ahead for a little spiritual here, right? So,
• 56:05
  in the Holy Quran, it mentions that, you know, if
• 56:09
  the Muslims were to do what they were going to do,
• 56:12
  that they would have many wells. Right? Because, you know,
• 56:16
  they're living in the desert, basically.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: And it says they're going to have abundant of wells.
• 56:22
  It's not an abundant of water wells in the Middle East.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: And these are people that are living nomadic, economically not really...
• 56:34
  at the level of the rest of the world. But
• 56:37
  it's a prophecy telling them that they're going to have wells.
• 56:40
  But what kind of wells they end up having? Oil.
• 56:42
  Oil wells.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Right? And so now, all of a sudden, they become
• 56:46
  the most richest small region in the world. Right. So
• 56:52
  the promise is fulfilled.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: But the gag is that the people got to realize
• 56:57
  sometimes where you stand, where you stand on your land,
• 57:01
  you know what I mean? The value of it as
• 57:04
  the Bible would say, yo, work to the sweat of
• 57:07
  your brow to dig and plow and make your land valuable.
• 57:12
  But now if you, if, so if, if I'm just
• 57:14
  saying that the people where they're going to get whatever
• 57:17
  they're going to get, bro.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I don't care if you're going to get some berries
• 57:20
  in the Amazon. If the berries is worth money, then
• 57:23
  the dude who got all the berries got to realize that,
• 57:25
  yo bro, let's make a deal. But you, but it
• 57:28
  seemed like that ain't happening.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: No, no, it's not happening. And the reason why it's
• 57:33
  not happening is because you have enormous corporations that come
• 57:35
  in from other countries. They get contracts and they pay
• 57:39
  off the people that are the leaders of these countries
• 57:41
  or the people that are the leaders of the military.
• 57:44
  And then those people keep these people oppressed. And that's
• 57:48
  what– I mean it's the people that are running these
• 57:51
  countries that are making sure that these people don't get
• 57:54
  paid what they deserve so that they can keep them
• 57:57
  working there for slave wages. So they keep their profits
• 58:00
  as high as possible. They also keep the options as
• 58:02
  low as possible because people don't have any options. If
• 58:05
  you're living in the Congo and you're near where these
• 58:08
  cobalt mines are, what are your other options?
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I'm going to shout out Burnham Boy. Burnham Boy is
• 58:15
  a good dude. He gave me some insight about Nigeria.
• 58:24
  He was saying to me how Wu-Tang, when we was young,
• 58:28
  we had to sling street pharmaceuticals.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: But out there, oil is like a street pharmaceutical. Like,
• 58:35
  dudes was slinging petrol and slinging oil and shit.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: In Nigeria?
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Wow. Like, that's crazy, right?
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: But the gag I'm saying is that still, you know,
• 58:48
  of course the government controls all that, but sometimes the
• 58:51
  people got to just snap, you know, just, yo, I
• 58:54
  don't know, stand on your land, yo, and realize... The
• 58:59
  value of where you stand. You know, every man has
• 59:04
  a value, right? We all walk with a living value.
• 59:08
  Every life is precious. Every life that's born changes the world.
• 59:12
  Soon as somebody is born today, this ain't the same
• 59:14
  world it was yesterday.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Soon as somebody returns to the essence, this ain't the
• 59:19
  same world. So we got to kind of, but the people,
• 59:22
  I'm going back to the people, not to the military
• 59:24
  or to the government, the people got to realize that, yo,
• 59:26
  hold on, bro. It's you. You're the value. Because without them, right,
• 59:31
  until they do get 10 million robots to do that shit,
• 59:36
  which I'm not opposed to that. Send 10 million robots
• 59:39
  to dig it up, bro. And still, though, if it's
• 59:43
  on my land, break me off.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: But people got to snap into that.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Well, these places are all guarded by the military. So
• 59:52
  it's all people with guns. You can't leave. You're doing
• 59:55
  their bidding. You'll get shot. They kill people. They bury you.
• 59:58
  No one notices. No one cares. The value of human
• 1:00:01
  life is extremely low. Yeah, it's satanic.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: It's dark. Well, let's jump back on my film because
• 1:00:09
  in my film, the value of life is once again,
• 1:00:15
  we're talking about the world but yet i gotta relate
• 1:00:18
  it back because and i filmed the value of life
• 1:00:21
  seems low as well yeah right low for the person
• 1:00:24
  living uh more for the valuable for the person that kills.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Them right yeah without giving too much of the film
• 1:00:32
  away um what happens in the film actually happens in
• 1:00:35
  real life i mean that that is it's based i
• 1:00:37
  mean you say it's based on real life but there's
• 1:00:40
  been real life cases where people they've harvested people's organs
• 1:00:43
  for profit yeah And that's a thing. I mean that's
• 1:00:46
  a big problem with people in China. People go to
• 1:00:49
  China for organs. Like there's a tourism to get organs replaced.
• 1:00:54
  Like say if you need a new kidney or you
• 1:00:55
  need a new liver or whatever.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: You got it.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have it. And what they'll do is they'll
• 1:00:59
  take their fucking prisoners. Oh, look, AB blood type. Perfect.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Whack.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: And then now you got some dude's heart.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Business. Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: There's another element that– This is RZA right here. I'm
• 1:01:15
  live on Joe Rogan Podcast. I got a new film
• 1:01:18
  coming out May 1st. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate.
• 1:01:22
  Written and directed by the RZA. Starring Shamik Moore, Paris Jackson,
• 1:01:26
  Blair Underwood, Rockman Dunbar, the name of few. It's produced
• 1:01:29
  by Quentin Tarantino and my wife, Talani Diggs. Hey, baby.
• 1:01:33
  I did an unofficial radio drop. That sounded like we
• 1:01:37
  were on the radio. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the
• 1:01:41
  RZA podcast. Coming in at five after the hour. But
• 1:01:47
  I love how art can touch upon things even if
• 1:01:51
  it's unintentional, right? What I mean by unintentional is that,
• 1:01:57
  you know, as an artist, I just let the shit flow.
• 1:02:00
  Like when you showed all that Congo Cobalt, I never
• 1:02:04
  seen it.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: But yet it's in your lyrics.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's in my lyrics. And even as you're
• 1:02:08
  telling me this chain of stuff here, I don't know
• 1:02:11
  about that. I do know some things that happened with
• 1:02:14
  some articles, but I wasn't, I'm not, uh, in debt,
• 1:02:19
  in depth with all the N D E P H
• 1:02:21
  T H.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: I don't have in depth knowledge of it, but I,
• 1:02:26
  but I strive as an artist, Joe is to actually
• 1:02:28
  to at least show the surface so that, you know,
• 1:02:32
  I don't know how deep the pool is, but I
• 1:02:35
  will show, show the surface through my art. Um, and
• 1:02:39
  I think in this film, which is a, It's an
• 1:02:41
  action film though, right? So Joe only seen the first
• 1:02:44
  half of it. So he doesn't know about the revenge-o-matic
• 1:02:48
  ass kicking. And I'm not going to spoil it for
• 1:02:50
  you either.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: But I believe it. There's already plenty of ass kicking already.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Right, right. Exactly. Seen some, okay. But it gets fucking,
• 1:02:56
  you're going to have a good time.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I'm sure.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: You're going to have a good time. But still, once again,
• 1:03:01
  the art of it, it has a, I'm realizing as
• 1:03:06
  I'm watching with different audiences, like when I watched it
• 1:03:08
  in New York, I had motherfuckers yelling at the screen,
• 1:03:12
  fuck that. They was on some shit. When I watched
• 1:03:17
  it in L.A., the audience was like, it was like
• 1:03:21
  a sense of nervousness that was in the room. When
• 1:03:24
  I watched it in Chicago, it was standing ovation. You
• 1:03:27
  know what I mean? I watched it in San Francisco,
• 1:03:30
  and the Q & A was very intellectual. So I'm
• 1:03:33
  realizing that, okay, this is touching. Then when I watched
• 1:03:36
  it in this other place, the girl, with Dave, actually,
• 1:03:38
  I watched it with Dave Chappelle. He said that, you
• 1:03:42
  got bars in this motherfucker. I said, what do you
• 1:03:44
  mean by bars? He said, well, the guy says, the
• 1:03:48
  girl says, first the girl, you haven't seen this scene yet,
• 1:03:52
  but Paris Jackson is telling him that everybody in this
• 1:03:56
  town goes to church on Sunday. Except for Jimmy and
• 1:04:01
  his gang of degenerates. They party all night Saturday and
• 1:04:06
  they sleep all day Sunday. She said, and I guess...
• 1:04:10
  They're not afraid to go to hell. And then the
• 1:04:12
  hero says, but where I come from, they say heaven
• 1:04:17
  is what you make it and hell is what you
• 1:04:20
  got to go through to get it. And she was like,
• 1:04:23
  that sounds right. And Dave was like, that's a fucking bar.
• 1:04:29
  And yo, so last time I was here, it was
• 1:04:31
  Donnell Rawlings was here, right? So check it out, bro.
• 1:04:35
  I was showing the film to Dave, right? and we're
• 1:04:37
  going to do a Q & A. I went to
• 1:04:39
  Yellow Spring, Ohio, bro.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Was Donnell there? Bro.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: He was there, yo. And then he got up, and
• 1:04:47
  he asked a question. And he started, he interrupted. He
• 1:04:53
  talked about the day we was here, and you inspired
• 1:04:57
  him to do a podcast. I remember you said, yo,
• 1:04:58
  start a podcast. Well, you might even help them, right?
• 1:05:01
  And then he said, and I said, yo, yeah, if
• 1:05:03
  you need something, hit me. So he hit me up. Say, yo,
• 1:05:06
  let me get an opening theme track. And so I
• 1:05:10
  got like a bunch of beats that's on my little
• 1:05:12
  thumb drive. I sent them like five of them, right?
• 1:05:15
  And he chose one.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he told me about this.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: So now he choose one, and that becomes his theme.
• 1:05:20
  It was a nice fucking, but that same five tracks,
• 1:05:24
  my manager is sending it to other people too and shit.
• 1:05:28
  So I did give it to Donnell. I gave it
• 1:05:30
  to him gratis. But he comes up in the middle
• 1:05:32
  of my Q & A with Dave about my film,
• 1:05:34
  and he starts talking about the beat, and he says,
• 1:05:37
  RZA is an Indian giver. He said, I was playing,
• 1:05:45
  he said, I had it on my podcast for almost
• 1:05:48
  two years, and then one day, it said, flag, license,
• 1:05:54
  whatever they do and shit, when you can't use it,
• 1:05:56
  use a motherfucking shit. And I was like... I said, oh, yeah, bro, yeah.
• 1:06:01
  The people from the Minions, they had got those five
• 1:06:06
  tracks as well. And they chose it. And they paid
• 1:06:09
  us a lot of money. Not going back to the
• 1:06:13
  money of it all. So I told him, I said, yo,
• 1:06:17
  that's another beat. He said, nah, son, that was the one.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: That was the one.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I said, bro, they chose it. My manager made the deal.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: It's off the table now.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. So you had to change his opening?
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. That gives him more to complain about. Yeah.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: It's almost worth giving him the beat just so he
• 1:06:35
  doesn't have to complain.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I owe you, Donnell, and I'm going to hook
• 1:06:39
  you up with something. Actually, I'm going to cook you
• 1:06:41
  up something nice, all right?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: I can't wait for this phone call.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Son you know what he did to me son he
• 1:06:49
  took it back he said that shit in front of
• 1:06:52
  the audience and i couldn't deny it and shit i
• 1:06:55
  was like yeah they they.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: You know that's hilarious that's hilarious.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Um but anyway um but they love the film too
• 1:07:04
  like like the audience and and uh um I'm only
• 1:07:07
  saying that because I love when my peers react to something.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Is this your first feature-length film?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: It's my fourth.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Fourth. Yeah. I know you've done other stuff, but have
• 1:07:17
  you written and done other things like this? The way
• 1:07:20
  you're doing it this way?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: This is my second one writing. So I wrote my
• 1:07:23
  first film, Man with the Iron Fist.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Which was a quintessential percent as well. And then it
• 1:07:30
  was a kung fu movie. So then I didn't want
• 1:07:33
  to get stuck. And like, oh, that's all he does.
• 1:07:36
  So my second film I didn't write was written by Nicole.
• 1:07:40
  And she, it was called Love Beats Rhymes. And that
• 1:07:46
  was like a movie about poetry and a female lead.
• 1:07:50
  And it was actually John David Washington. It was his
• 1:07:54
  first feature film as well. And then my third film
• 1:07:58
  was called Cutthroat City, which I didn't write. Just once again,
• 1:08:02
  I hired Gunn as a director. And in that film,
• 1:08:05
  I had Shamik Moore as the lead actor. And I
• 1:08:09
  kind of like fell in love with his talent. So
• 1:08:12
  that's why he was in Cutthroat City. He's in the
• 1:08:15
  Wu-Tang series. He plays Raekwon. And now he's the star
• 1:08:18
  of my new film. So we kind of got this,
• 1:08:22
  I hate to say it, but we kind of got
• 1:08:24
  this Denzel, Spike Lee energy, this Kugler, Michael B. energy.
• 1:08:28
  I really like this guy. But on this particular film, yes.
• 1:08:33
  I decided to write it and direct it. And I'm
• 1:08:38
  back to the basic, right? Quentin Tarantino presented my first film,
• 1:08:41
  and now here's my fourth film, and he's back in
• 1:08:44
  the building.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: And one of my favorite songs from that first soundtrack
• 1:08:48
  is Baddest Man Alive.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: That you did with Black Keys. Dude, that song. That
• 1:08:54
  song killed it.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Dan and Patrick, yo.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love those two guys. They're cool as fuck.
• 1:09:02
  And that song kills it. That song kills it. That's
• 1:09:05
  such a good song. A bunch of dudes used that
• 1:09:07
  song as walkout. Walkout for the UFC.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: I seen it on a fucking car commercial one day.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay. Did you guys listen to the lyrics?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: I guess all you need is that hook.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. On this, on this, uh, how are we doing
• 1:09:23
  on time? Are we good?
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're plenty good.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: On this, on this particular film, uh, I got a
• 1:09:28
  guy named, you know, Jason Isbell?
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: So Jason Isbell did a song, uh, in the film, uh,
• 1:09:35
  it's called, uh, Comic Book Life. And, um, it was,
• 1:09:41
  you know, it's my first collaboration with him as well. Um,
• 1:09:44
  and it was a pleasure, uh, Lyrics go, Jesus Christ
• 1:09:54
  may have walked on water and Superman flies through the sky.
• 1:09:59
  The immigrant crossed the border. He's looking for a better life.
• 1:10:04
  Trying to find it, he's reminded that dreams are born
• 1:10:08
  to die. His reality kills his fantasy. It's not a
• 1:10:15
  comic book life. You know what I mean? And so
• 1:10:18
  it goes on. And so I try to, when I
• 1:10:22
  do films, I try to make like a unique musical collaboration.
• 1:10:25
  Of course, that was me and the Black Keys back then.
• 1:10:28
  And on this film, we got like music from Jason Isbell.
• 1:10:33
  We got clearances from the Isley Brothers who, check this out, bro.
• 1:10:39
  I'm on a plane three days ago heading to Atlanta
• 1:10:43
  to show the film. Guess who's sitting in first class
• 1:10:46
  in the seat right there? Ron Isley. I never met
• 1:10:49
  him before. I'm like the big fan.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: I love his music.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I got two of his songs in my movie. And
• 1:10:54
  I'm going to show, and I look over. I'm like,
• 1:10:56
  my wife's like, yeah, that's Ron. And I was like,
• 1:10:59
  I got a chance to get up and thank him
• 1:11:01
  for his work and for even allowing his music to
• 1:11:06
  be in my film because that's special.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's cool.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Are you a Ron Isley fan?
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: Not really.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: You're not an Isley Brothers bro? Listen, bro, you got to,
• 1:11:15
  let me, I got to put you on some ice, bro.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: Please.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Because if, you know, I'm quite sure your love life
• 1:11:22
  is good, all right? I'm quite sure you got a
• 1:11:25
  good love life, bro. But if you ever get into
• 1:11:28
  any love life trouble, okay, put on the ice, brothers.
• 1:11:32
  It will smoothen out.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: Tell me what to get.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say Sensual.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Sensual?
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Put that one on. And, um, and, uh, Yeah,
• 1:11:43
  I'm going to just give you that one because the
• 1:11:45
  way that comes on, bro, your shoulders are going to
• 1:11:47
  start moving and shit.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: You come in with two glasses of wine, I'm telling you, bro,
• 1:11:56
  you're going to be good.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll check it out.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Who's your favorite musician?
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy. I don't think I have a favorite musician.
• 1:12:08
  I don't even have a favorite genre.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: You know, I like all kinds. I mean, if you
• 1:12:13
  look at my Spotify green room playlist, it's all over
• 1:12:18
  the place. It goes from Nina Simone to Bill Withers
• 1:12:22
  to Wu-Tang to Leonard Skinner to Led Zeppelin. It's all
• 1:12:26
  over the place to Gary Clark Jr. It's everywhere. I
• 1:12:31
  move around.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: You name it some dope shit.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: I like to move around. I like all kinds of shit.
• 1:12:36
  I'll listen to Dwight Yoakam and I'll follow it up
• 1:12:39
  with– you know, cool G rap. I like, uh, one
• 1:12:45
  of my favorite albums ever is when, um, the brand
• 1:12:48
  new heavies. Did you ever listen to brand new heavies
• 1:12:50
  when they got heavy rhyme experience? Should I listen to that?
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I know that particular, uh, brand.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: New heavies got together with like cool G rap. They
• 1:12:59
  got together with a bunch of different rappers. Um, who
• 1:13:03
  else is in there? God, it's like, There's a ton
• 1:13:06
  of different people that they did these tracks with. So
• 1:13:09
  they have the brand new heavies playing the music. And
• 1:13:13
  Heavy Rhyme Experience is the name of the track. Gangsta's
• 1:13:16
  in it. Main Source. Yeah, man.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: What year is this, bro?
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: 92, I think. Wow. 92, yeah.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: Right, right. Because I remember that first album.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. You got to listen to some of
• 1:13:26
  this shit.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because by now, 92 was what happened to me
• 1:13:28
  in 1992. I'm on my own deck now. I don't
• 1:13:32
  listen to nobody. I'm just Wu-Tanged out. Oh, okay. No,
• 1:13:35
  I'm trying to make it, so I'm like, yeah.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I get it.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: So I missed it.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: I actually missed a lot of things during my career, bro.
• 1:13:43
  I realized, like, I'm going backwards. Like, there was a
• 1:13:47
  point in my life where I couldn't stand R & B. Really?
• 1:13:50
  It made me nauseous.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: I'm serious.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Like, if I'm driving.
• 1:13:55
  And R & B' s on, I felt... I was so
• 1:13:58
  fucking hip-hop, bro.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Because you're so concentrated.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was weird.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: That makes sense, though.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you were on the grind. You were really
• 1:14:06
  trying to make it happen.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Now I play R & B, me and my wife,
• 1:14:09
  we be dancing around the motherfucking house.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was a point in time where I
• 1:14:15
  was only into 90s hip-hop. Like, 90s hip-hop was my shit.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Because, like... That was when I was young and I
• 1:14:23
  was on the road a lot. And that was like
• 1:14:25
  my getting fired up music was like 90s hip hop.
• 1:14:28
  But then I started expanding and then I got into
• 1:14:31
  like a lot of like old classic rock and roll.
• 1:14:34
  And I just think it's all dependent upon your mood.
• 1:14:38
  But there's so much different shit that you could listen to. Right.
• 1:14:41
  But this, you got to listen to some of this
• 1:14:43
  heavy rhyme experience.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to put that on my list right there.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Play him that Coogee rap Death Threat. This is like
• 1:14:50
  one of my all, so in the green room, we'll
• 1:14:53
  have to cut this out of the podcast, unfortunately, because
• 1:14:56
  we don't want to get dinged. But in the green
• 1:14:59
  room playlist, this is like one of my first beginning
• 1:15:02
  of the night when the comedy show starts. And we're
• 1:15:05
  in the green room getting fired up, pouring a couple
• 1:15:06
  of drinks. Everybody's getting fired up. Someone's rolling a blunt.
• 1:15:10
  This is one of my favorite songs to start the
• 1:15:12
  green room playlist off with.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Hit me with it.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: This is Cool G Rap and the Brand New Heavies. Okay.
• 1:15:20
  It's great, and the gangsta, Hectic, that's another one of
• 1:15:23
  my favorites.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: You're so cool about it for me. So I never
• 1:15:26
  heard it, but it immediately put me right back in
• 1:15:28
  Staples and Projects, like right back in that time of me,
• 1:15:32
  because Cool G Rap is.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: Love that dude.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: So it put me right there. Thank you, y'all.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: Cock blocking, one of my all-time favorite talks.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Right, right. Talk like sex.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's so many.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: Ill Street Blues. Ill Street Blues, amazing. And Cool G Rap,
• 1:15:46
  I just think in mainstream, just doesn't get the respect
• 1:15:49
  he deserves from the influence that he had in the 90s.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the artists, we give it to them.
• 1:15:55
  But yeah, you're right, the public.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: Mainstream. There's so many people I bring up Cool G Rap,
• 1:16:00
  and they're like, who? And I'm like, oh, sit down.
• 1:16:03
  Sit down, let me play some shit for you.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: And he told me this years later that the G
• 1:16:08
  stood for genius. And he's a fucking genius. Even though
• 1:16:13
  we got the jizz of the genius in our crew,
• 1:16:16
  Coogee Rap is a genius, man. I was blessed to
• 1:16:20
  do a couple of tracks with him in my catalog. Oh, nice.
• 1:16:24
  We actually got a couple that we did together and
• 1:16:26
  a couple that I just produced with him and Inspector
• 1:16:29
  Deck and things of that nature. So that's one of
• 1:16:32
  the greatest blessings of the art is that, I'm sure
• 1:16:36
  you do the same as whether you're doing comedy, whether
• 1:16:38
  you're doing your physicality, that You have people that you admired.
• 1:16:42
  And then all of a sudden, they're your peers.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: You're collaborating. You're doing shit with them. Yeah, I know.
• 1:16:47
  It's very exciting just being able to hang out with them.
• 1:16:51
  We went to dinner with Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery.
• 1:16:56
  And then they came to the comedy show. And then
• 1:16:58
  we're all hanging out in the green room. And everybody's like,
• 1:17:00
  this is the fucking coolest night of all time. Just
• 1:17:03
  chilling and hanging out with Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery
• 1:17:06
  at the Mothership green room. how are you going to
• 1:17:09
  beat that? It's hard to beat, man. Everybody the next
• 1:17:11
  day were like, didn't last night really happen? Like, that
• 1:17:13
  was so fun.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: When, when, when I, speaking of Quentin, when I had
• 1:17:21
  a cut that was, you know, worthy to show him,
• 1:17:25
  our buddy Javid and my buddy Abizar, they, so Javid
• 1:17:30
  kind of owns the old Desi Arnaz studio.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: He's the guy that started Red Cameras. So, And he
• 1:17:38
  has this amazing screening room. And so he said, yo,
• 1:17:43
  you can screen it here for Quinn. I said, all right, cool.
• 1:17:47
  So we finally got the date to do it. And
• 1:17:50
  I go there, and his plus one is Fincher.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: So I'm just like, oh. That's crazy.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so now I'm like, okay, whoa, okay. And I
• 1:18:00
  played the film to them. And once there was another
• 1:18:03
  great night, some great, what were we sipping on? We
• 1:18:07
  were sipping on... Some gray scotch. Yeah, we had some
• 1:18:10
  gray scotch. I don't smoke weed like that no more. So,
• 1:18:14
  you know, do you still smoke weed?
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: What happened when you stopped?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: I just, I don't function good in public with weed.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Who does?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: Who does?
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: People think they do. Exactly.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: But I don't want to see that photo.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: I don't want to. That photo.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to be that guy no more.
• 1:18:36
  It's like, if I'm home. Also, to be honest with you,
• 1:18:38
  if I smoke weed, bro, I start doing kung fu, bro. Really? Yeah,
• 1:18:42
  I'm either going to sit quiet and like be a total.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, you start.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And motherfuckers like, yo, what's this? Yeah, exactly. I'll
• 1:18:50
  start doing shit like that. I mean, with a fucking
• 1:18:53
  suit on or some shit. So.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: That sounds fun. Yeah.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: You know, so I, yeah, I kind of, 2015 was
• 1:19:02
  when I, when I stopped.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: Completely. Maybe.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, not, yes, well, completely. But then I said,
• 1:19:09
  I will only smoke. with two or three people in
• 1:19:12
  the world. One of them is Quentin Tarantino, because we
• 1:19:17
  watch our kung fu movies. We're not going nowhere. I smoke,
• 1:19:20
  if I have some weed with him, I know that
• 1:19:22
  I'm in a, you know, no photos is happening. You're
• 1:19:25
  not going to see the zonkey RZA. My other brother
• 1:19:29
  I smoke with, I won't say his name because I
• 1:19:31
  don't know if people know he smoke. I think everybody
• 1:19:33
  knows he smoke, but I won't say his fucking name
• 1:19:35
  and shit.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: And I finally see him.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Once a year twice a year you know i mean
• 1:19:41
  um and that's really it and even like i haven't
• 1:19:44
  smoked a blunt with method man in over 12 years
• 1:19:48
  bro wow and that's my that's my that was my
• 1:19:52
  he's the king of smoking anyway but that was like
• 1:19:54
  my but i just like i said i just don't
• 1:19:57
  like how uh it just doesn't fit my my today's
• 1:20:01
  personality so i'm a sipper now i just sip on
• 1:20:04
  some Not no syrup.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: I know what you mean. A little scotch.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: A little scotch.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: I love tequila.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: Mezcal.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: Look, there's nothing wrong with all those things. I think
• 1:20:14
  they're all tools. And I think one of the things
• 1:20:17
  about tools is you can misuse them. And I think
• 1:20:20
  there's a lot of people that just live in the cloud.
• 1:20:22
  And they just get high all the time. And then
• 1:20:24
  they just feel like their life is out of control.
• 1:20:26
  And then pure abstinence becomes the only solution. But it's
• 1:20:30
  really you just started abusing the tool. I think marijuana
• 1:20:34
  is an excellent tool for creativity. And the way I
• 1:20:38
  like it the most is writing. I think it's the
• 1:20:42
  greatest thing ever for writing. There's something that happens with
• 1:20:45
  just not a lot, just a little bit of weed.
• 1:20:48
  Just all of a sudden, bing, ideas start sparking off
• 1:20:51
  in your head. Then I go, I don't think that
• 1:20:53
  these ideas would exist without this stuff. That's one of
• 1:20:56
  the things that Carl Sagan said. Jimmy, what's that famous
• 1:20:59
  Carl Sagan quote? On cannabis. But Carl Sagan, who's obviously
• 1:21:05
  like one of the most famous astronomers of all time,
• 1:21:08
  he had and wrote that great movie Contact, that great
• 1:21:11
  book Contact. He had this quote about cannabis that I
• 1:21:15
  always like to say to people that want to say
• 1:21:17
  it's for dummies. Because it's like, no, man, there's something
• 1:21:22
  to it. You could look like a dummy if you
• 1:21:25
  abuse it, just like you could look like an idiot
• 1:21:27
  if you get so drunk that you can't walk.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: It's the same thing, but a little bit, just a
• 1:21:34
  little bit sometimes just fires up. The illegality of cancer
• 1:21:38
  is outrageous and impediment to full utilization of a drug
• 1:21:41
  which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship
• 1:21:44
  so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world.
• 1:21:48
  That was one quote, but there was another quote that
• 1:21:51
  he had about ideas that are available through cannabis that
• 1:21:57
  aren't available without it, that his perception. And obviously here's,
• 1:22:02
  here's a guy that, I mean, what better way to
• 1:22:04
  utilize weed than to smoke a little and stare at
• 1:22:07
  the fucking vastness of the cosmos and just try.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: To open up your mind. That's exactly what I mean
• 1:22:13
  for me. Right. So, so if I, so it was
• 1:22:16
  only two things going to happen for me. I'm going
• 1:22:18
  to smoke. I'm going to just be like, even if
• 1:22:21
  I'll be in here finding fucking constellations and shit. You
• 1:22:25
  see what I mean?
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Kung fu.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: I'm doing kung fu.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Those sound like two good things.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not knocking them, but it's definitely my schedule.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't fit in.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: It doesn't fit in.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's like, what is life? Is life
• 1:22:37
  about schedule? Is life about enjoying moments? And I think
• 1:22:41
  there's something to be said for enjoying moments, and there's
• 1:22:45
  certain things that will help enhance moments. And I think...
• 1:22:50
  That's where cannabis comes into play. I think the problem
• 1:22:53
  with it is the problem with anything that human beings abuse,
• 1:22:57
  whether it's soda, chocolate, whatever, alcohol, food, people abuse things.
• 1:23:04
  They go too far with it. You don't use it correctly.
• 1:23:07
  And I think it's also part of the problem with
• 1:23:09
  it being illegal. One of the things about alcohol being
• 1:23:12
  legal is we understand what a dose is. If I
• 1:23:15
  give you a shot of tequila and we both clink
• 1:23:17
  glasses and we do a shot, We understand the dose.
• 1:23:20
  That is one shot of tequila. It's not confusing. Whereas
• 1:23:25
  we all know weed, you know, you get ahold of
• 1:23:27
  some Snoop's weed or some, some people are just, they're,
• 1:23:31
  they're dealing with botanists that are on another planet.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, let me say one thing about Snoop's weed
• 1:23:35
  one day. When I was smoking, I did an interview
• 1:23:38
  with him. And, uh, that's when he had that GSC.
• 1:23:42
  He had the G, he had some network that he had.
• 1:23:45
  And we was talking about my movie and then I
• 1:23:46
  was going, everything was fine. Like, Then, you know, he's
• 1:23:49
  rolling it, you know, he's talking. Then he lit that
• 1:23:52
  motherfucker up and passed that shit, bro. I hit that shit,
• 1:23:57
  hit it back, hit it again. I was like, I'm
• 1:24:01
  getting the fuck out of here. And, yo, I was gone.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Joey Diaz weed, too. Joey Diaz got that
• 1:24:09
  same kind of weed. I've given it to some people,
• 1:24:12
  and I'm like, careful, that's Joey Diaz weed. And they
• 1:24:14
  get scared, like, oh, Jesus.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to go home and get a pillow ready,
• 1:24:19
  because that shit is going to fucking, and he could
• 1:24:22
  do it all day.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: I know, that's what's crazy.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Him and Method, man, out of, for my, and I
• 1:24:27
  give Burner Boy in that category as well. Those are
• 1:24:30
  the three most people that I've seen very, we tolerant
• 1:24:36
  like like like like they could be on the third
• 1:24:40
  one and then you hit it and you're like what
• 1:24:42
  the fuck yo how the fuck how the fuck are
• 1:24:45
  y'all going.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: Like that they go it all day long yeah when
• 1:24:50
  snoop was in here he just kept rolling blunts and
• 1:24:52
  i was like how are you still awake how are
• 1:24:55
  you how do you function but they're so accustomed to
• 1:24:58
  it that their tolerance is so high and that feeling
• 1:25:01
  Just being in the cloud all the time. They're fine
• 1:25:03
  with it. Did you find that other quote?
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: There's multiple quotes. He had an essay, so.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: It was something about ideas being available that aren't. That
• 1:25:14
  was the big quote.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't say understand himself. It doesn't say that
• 1:25:19
  in here.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: That's okay. I feel me. No worries. I should have found.
• 1:25:23
  I should have had it ready. But the point is
• 1:25:26
  it's like it's a tool. And you could use any
• 1:25:29
  tool correctly or you could use it and abuse it incorrectly.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: So what's your frequency of smoking? Do you smoke once
• 1:25:35
  a day, once a week?
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: I just wish it was legal. If it was legal,
• 1:25:40
  then people could— It is legal in many places, isn't it? Yeah,
• 1:25:41
  but it's not federally legal. It's just got changed to
• 1:25:44
  Schedule 3. So Schedule 3 is the same as Tylenol
• 1:25:50
  with codeine. So what does that mean? It means that
• 1:25:52
  you have to get a prescription for it. So it
• 1:25:55
  doesn't carry the same– the crazy thing is it's completely
• 1:25:59
  legal in California and it's generating tax revenue. It's completely
• 1:26:02
  legal in Colorado, generating tax revenue. And then people always
• 1:26:06
  want to point to the negative aspects of it. But
• 1:26:08
  like you could have negative aspects with everything else that's
• 1:26:12
  legal too. Think about how many people die from obesity
• 1:26:15
  every year, obesity-related diseases. Let's put that into perplexity. Put
• 1:26:20
  that into our AI sponsor. How many people die because
• 1:26:24
  of obesity-related diseases every year? So you're saying– So should
• 1:26:29
  we regulate food? Should we regulate the amount of food
• 1:26:33
  that people are able to consume? Should we stop people?
• 1:26:35
  Should we make– cake and ring dings and ho-ho? Should
• 1:26:39
  we make that shit illegal?
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: You have to have some personal responsibility and some self-control
• 1:26:45
  and an understanding of like what the ramifications are. What
• 1:26:49
  are the dangers of overeating or eating the wrong kinds
• 1:26:52
  of food? That's the same with cannabis. The same with alcohol.
• 1:26:55
  If you think that alcohol should be illegal, well, you're
• 1:26:57
  going to, people are going to drink it and then
• 1:26:59
  you're just going to empower organized crime like they did
• 1:27:02
  during the prohibition.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: Okay. How about this? World Health Organization reports that at
• 1:27:07
  least 2.8 million people die each year as a result
• 1:27:11
  of being overweight or obese. That's... Fucking crazy. That's crazy, bro.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: Globally, it's 3.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: To 5 million people a year.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Wait, so where's the 2.8 at? That's here? I don't know. No,
• 1:27:22
  here is U.S.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: Okay. U.S. is here.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: So U.S., it's 280,000 to 325,000 per year.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: They knocked out opioids. Knocked it out of the park.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: So we're all worried about opioids and no one's worried
• 1:27:28
  about pizza. But that doesn't mean that pizza should be illegal.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Especially New York pizza, bro. That's the best pizza.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Connecticut. New Haven.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: You just have to.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: Have an understanding of what to do and not to do.
• 1:27:59
  Don't eat pizza 24 hours a day every day. You'll die.
• 1:28:03
  Don't eat a pound of salt. You eat a pound
• 1:28:05
  of salt, you'll be dead.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: Wasn't there a documentary where the guy– I'm not talking that.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: Supersize me.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that. What was he eating every day?
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: He was eating McDonald's. Yeah, all day, every day for
• 1:28:15
  every meal.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: And that was like 30 days before the Grim Reaper
• 1:28:18
  started knocking at the door?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't doing well. He had all sorts of
• 1:28:23
  liver problems. Didn't McDonald's just release some subscription where you
• 1:28:26
  get like, it's like $ 52 a month and you can
• 1:28:29
  eat as much as you want? Holy shit. I think
• 1:28:32
  they just did that today. What's that look, Jerry? What's
• 1:28:35
  that face?
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: I know. It doesn't make any sense.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: $ 52.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: I think they just did that today. I saw it
• 1:28:41
  on my Google News alert this morning.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Did that make sense?
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: No. It doesn't make sense unless they're limiting the amount
• 1:28:48
  of meals that you can have in a day. But
• 1:28:51
  if you have a subscription, say if you have a
• 1:28:53
  McDonald's subscription and it's $ 52 a month and that's all
• 1:28:55
  you eat, You could live off of $ 52 a month easy.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Well, not according to that documentary. No. That's two months.
• 1:29:05
  You're out of here.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Well, what if you only ate their salads and you
• 1:29:08
  only ate their beef patties without any bread? You'd probably
• 1:29:13
  be better off.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: You'd be better off.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: You'd probably be okay. But even their beef probably has
• 1:29:17
  like fillers in it and shit.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: I'm still living a vegan lifestyle.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: Still?
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: What do you get mostly for your protein?
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Mostly beans. I probably do consume a little bit too
• 1:29:28
  much soy, I think.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: Do we eat tofu? Shout out to our friend CK.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: Hey, in the building.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: He bought in.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wu Chao. That place rules.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: Yes. He bought us lunch, which we will eat after
• 1:29:41
  we finish this.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: Phenomenal Chinese restaurant here in Austin. Phenomenal.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: You know what he got that I realized? What? He
• 1:29:48
  has those Sichuan peppers.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: That shit is crack. They kick.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: They kick.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They kick.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: They make my bald head sweat.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: They start dripping.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Dripping down to my eyebrows.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. What were we looking up again, Jamie?
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: It's McDonald's Unlimited.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Did you find it? Is it fake?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: Well, the only places that it pops up are one
• 1:30:11
  Instagram post.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: It was in my Google News feed.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: Ah, yeah.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: People are reporting it, but it seems to be only
• 1:30:18
  based off of a photo, which.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: Is most likely AI. Oh, yeah, $ 54 a month.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: This photo is going around, but there's no links to–
• 1:30:28
  McDonald's isn't saying it. There's no press.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: Release about it. Oh, so it's bullshit. It's bullshit. Because
• 1:30:34
  I was thinking, like, how could they afford.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: Now, also I would say they do do test stuff,
• 1:30:39
  and it is claiming it's a pilot program being tested somewhere,
• 1:30:42
  so– potentially they're trying something out somewhere, but again, I
• 1:30:47
  don't see any reporting of it.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Unlimited meals is a weird, if you're going to limit it,
• 1:30:52
  you can't say unlimited because if you don't, If it's unlimited,
• 1:30:56
  then you could just feed your whole family for $ 54
• 1:30:59
  a month.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: Right. You could take one, hey, go back in. Yeah.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: Well, you could just say unlimited. I like to eat
• 1:31:05
  seven Big Macs. Give me seven Big Macs, seven orders
• 1:31:08
  of fries, seven sodas, and then you're feeding everybody for
• 1:31:12
  $ 54 a month. That's crazy.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: Does McDonald's own Chipotle?
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Do they own Chipotle? I'm bringing up Chipotle because I
• 1:31:20
  got Chipotle. I did a campaign with them, and they
• 1:31:23
  gave me a card. Life long card. I could eat
• 1:31:28
  at Chipotle for free for the rest of my life.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: Really? That's part of the campaign?
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: No, this was like the gift.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: For you, yeah. I didn't even know that that was
• 1:31:37
  a thing.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: And I could have 10 people with 24-hour notice. And
• 1:31:43
  I think I could do a catered event at least
• 1:31:46
  once a month.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: For the rest of my life.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty good deal.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: That is a real thing.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: That's like a celebrity gold card thing they offer.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, nice. Some people have gotten.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: Their hands on it through different ways. Like Travis Barker
• 1:32:00
  has one here.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: Interesting. I got one. Well, Travis, he's a vegan too. Yeah,
• 1:32:05
  I'm a vegan too. So is he eating just the
• 1:32:07
  bean burritos and stuff?
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: Well, they're sofritos. They got some shit called sofrito.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: What is that? Hopefully there's no chicken in there.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think there's no chicken. I think it's like...
• 1:32:18
  It's like a vegan meat.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: So most of your protein is from what? Tofu? Beans? Chickpeas.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: I love chickpeas.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Chickpeas.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: Lentils. I'm crazy for lentils. My wife would throw a
• 1:32:32
  pot of lentils on.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: Pea protein is really good.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: Pea protein.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: Hemp protein is really good.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: Hemp is good.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: Hemp protein is, I think it's one of the few
• 1:32:39
  plant-based proteins that contains all the amino acids. And it's
• 1:32:42
  very bioavailable, too.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: Pumpkin seeds.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: Pumpkin seeds?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Pumpkin seeds.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: Look up pumpkin seeds. Pumpkin seeds probably have the most
• 1:32:52
  best protein.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: Really? Pumpkin seeds. They taste good, too.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: I keep them in my car.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: When they're roasted?
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: Roasted pumpkin seeds. A little salt on them.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: Trust me. Every time I get in the whip, I
• 1:33:03
  got pumpkin seeds. Wow.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: What does it say about the... They reduce the risk
• 1:33:09
  of cancer and improve bowel and prostate health.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: Pumpkin seeds, bro. That's it.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: Rich in protein, fiber, unsaturated fats, and must-have minerals. Papitas
• 1:33:21
  are a great healthy snacking option. All right. Yeah, pumpkin
• 1:33:24
  seeds are delicious.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you get those. You get some chickpeas.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: Isn't it weird that people, when they make their fucking jack-o'-lanterns,
• 1:33:32
  they scoop that shit out and throw it away? Yeah,
• 1:33:34
  give them to me. It's like the healthiest part of
• 1:33:37
  the pumpkin. That's weird. It's weird what we throw away.
• 1:33:41
  We're just so used to waste. I'm so used to
• 1:33:46
  having an abundance of food that we're not concentrating on
• 1:33:48
  this part of the plant that has the most protein
• 1:33:51
  in the plant, probably the most nutritious part of the pumpkin.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, my buddy was here yesterday. They don't
• 1:33:59
  throw away too much of that meat for that Texas barbecue,
• 1:34:03
  you guys.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: God, this motherfucker. No, they don't fuck around. Yo, there
• 1:34:08
  was a 15-minute wait line around the corner, 200 people.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: Where were you at? Which place?
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: It was, I don't know the name of it.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: Terry Black's?
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know because I just drove, my man Abba's
• 1:34:19
  over there. And so, you know, he couldn't come out
• 1:34:21
  to Texas and not get some Texas barbecue. You know
• 1:34:24
  what I mean?
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: I'm a vegan.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: What am I going to do?
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: Well, they have some good beans and macaroni and it's
• 1:34:30
  just a bunch of different stuff that you can get there.
• 1:34:31
  Potato salad. Yeah.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, potato salad.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. It's got mayonnaise and milk and eggs.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: You've been a vegan for a long, since the 90s, right?
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, no, I started vegetarian in the 90s, and
• 1:34:47
  by the time I got to 2000, I started.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: You don't fuck with eggs at all?
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: No, I got rid of the eggs. No?
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: I don't... The eggs.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: What got me off the fucking eggs, bro? I think
• 1:34:58
  my personality got me off the eggs.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: Why's that? I don't know. You know, it's like.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like... What's the word? I could be scornful. Is
• 1:35:07
  that the word?
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: Like, when you, like.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: Like... Like, I don't know, like a Felix Unger type
• 1:35:15
  of shit. You know, have you ever watched Felix Unger?
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: Odd couple.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you don't want pits in his orange juice
• 1:35:20
  or some shit. So eggs, like one day, it's just
• 1:35:25
  the slime of the egg.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: And just cook it.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it then got that little white shit in it, bro.
• 1:35:33
  I'm just saying.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: It's so good for you. And if you have your
• 1:35:36
  own chickens, like I have my own chickens, eggs are
• 1:35:39
  karma-free proteins. They're like pets. They give you free protein. Right, right.
• 1:35:43
  Because they're laying an egg that will never be a
• 1:35:47
  chicken because it's not fertilized. Exactly. So it's just free protein. Right.
• 1:35:51
  And they lay them every day basically or close to it.
• 1:35:55
  And you feed them and they run around the backyard
• 1:35:58
  and they pick bugs and grass.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: Right. What do you feed them?
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: Chicken food. You know, you buy chicken feed and we
• 1:36:05
  also feed them some table scraps and vegetables and different things.
• 1:36:09
  But they're carnivores, man, which is really wild. Like you
• 1:36:12
  see them eat a mouse. It's crazy.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: They tear mice. You never seen a chicken eat a mouse?
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: I've never seen a chicken eat a mouse.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: Chickens are straight up dinosaurs. There's some great videos of
• 1:36:21
  chickens around a cat and a cat's playing with a
• 1:36:24
  mouse and the chicken just runs up on the cat
• 1:36:26
  and steals the mouse from him and tears it apart.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that, yo.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: I fed a chicken that I– well, one chicken stole
• 1:36:34
  the mouse. But this is what happened. So in my
• 1:36:37
  house in California, we used to have a wrought iron
• 1:36:40
  fence and we replaced it with a glass fence. Unfortunately,
• 1:36:44
  hawks couldn't tell that it was a glass fence and
• 1:36:46
  we lost a few hawks. They slammed into it headfirst
• 1:36:50
  and got KO'd and some of them– we lost like
• 1:36:52
  two hawks died. It was really sad. But one of
• 1:36:54
  them survived and my family– My wife and my daughters
• 1:36:58
  took the hawk and put it in like a large
• 1:37:01
  cardboard box. It couldn't fly. And they had to feed
• 1:37:03
  it over the weekend because the rescue shelter couldn't take
• 1:37:06
  it over the weekend. We had to bring it in
• 1:37:07
  on Monday. And so they go, well, what are hawks?
• 1:37:10
  How do you feed it? We went to the store
• 1:37:13
  and the pet store. And the pet food store had
• 1:37:16
  these things called pinkies. And what they are is like
• 1:37:18
  little baby mice. And so. You put these little baby
• 1:37:22
  mice in with the hawk, and the hawk ate most
• 1:37:23
  of them, but one of them lived. One of them,
• 1:37:26
  the hawk didn't eat it.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: The hawk had enough pinkies.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: It ate enough. So my daughters were like, we want
• 1:37:31
  to keep that one alive. I'm like, it's not going
• 1:37:33
  to live. It doesn't have the milk. It doesn't have
• 1:37:35
  its mother. It hasn't been weaned. It's going to die.
• 1:37:38
  And I said, let me just feed it to the chickens.
• 1:37:40
  I didn't even know if they were going to eat it.
• 1:37:41
  I didn't know what was going to happen. I put
• 1:37:43
  that little mouse down in the cage, and that chicken
• 1:37:45
  just ran up and snatched it, and they all stole
• 1:37:48
  it away. So watch this cat. This cat's fucking with
• 1:37:50
  this mouse. You think cats are ruthless, and they are.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's playing with this motherfucker.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: But he's playing with it. He wants to watch it
• 1:37:56
  hop away, and then the chicken gets annoyed after a while,
• 1:38:00
  and the chicken's like, give me that shit, bitch. And
• 1:38:02
  when the chicken runs up on the mouse, watch this, instantaneously.
• 1:38:07
  As soon as the chicken realizes this.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: Fuck out of here.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: Give me that shit, bitch. And just starts tearing it apart.
• 1:38:12
  Holy shit. Chickens aren't into playing with things at all. Nah,
• 1:38:14
  that's true.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: This is dinner.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just shaking it and mangling it. I'm out of here.
• 1:38:19
  They were all chasing each other around the chicken coop
• 1:38:22
  where this one chicken had the mouse in its mouth,
• 1:38:24
  and they were all trying to steal it from her mouth. Oh,
• 1:38:28
  they wanted it more than anything. That's true.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: Because they don't act like that with chicken food at all. Right, right.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: They wanted some meat.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or dried worms, or that's one of them, like
• 1:38:39
  worm meal. You buy these, like, boxes of dried, and
• 1:38:41
  you shake it, and they come running, and you'll, like,
• 1:38:43
  leave that out for them. They love that.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: So, okay, so now your chickens, you got your own
• 1:38:47
  how many?
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: I have 15, 15 chickens.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: So you're getting what?
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: How many? A bunch of eggs, like probably at least
• 1:38:54
  10 eggs every day. Wow. And so, because they don't
• 1:38:57
  always lay them every day.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: Of course, of course.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: But it's free protein and it's healthy for you. You
• 1:39:02
  know exactly where it came from. There's no hormones, no pesticides,
• 1:39:06
  no herbicides, no nothing.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: Let me interrupt our podcast for a moment. Okay. This
• 1:39:11
  is the RZA. I'm sitting here with Joe Rogan. I
• 1:39:14
  have a new film coming out. It's called One Spoon
• 1:39:17
  of Chocolate. Starring Sean Meek Moore and Paris Jackson. Produced
• 1:39:21
  by Quentin Tarantino. In theaters everywhere. May 1st.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: And that's only a couple days from now. Today is
• 1:39:26
  the 27th, so it's this Friday.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: This Friday.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: There it is. One spoon of chocolate.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: Because one spoon of chocolate can do what? Change a
• 1:39:35
  whole glass of milk. Change the whole glass of milk.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: Anyway, eggs. It's good for you. They're really good for you. Healthy.
• 1:39:44
  And karma-free. You don't have to worry about anything suffering.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: Right. And the only thing that I don't complain about
• 1:39:50
  as a vegan, and I don't cook with it or
• 1:39:53
  use it, but if some butter slipped on my shit,
• 1:39:57
  I'm not going to flip out.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you shouldn't because it's just milk that comes out
• 1:40:00
  of a cow. It doesn't, you know, especially if you
• 1:40:02
  get it from an organic farm, it's no big deal. Right.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: So that's the only thing that, you know, I don't,
• 1:40:08
  you know, I don't, I use all that plant-based butter
• 1:40:11
  and they got this thing called... Well, now Country Crock
• 1:40:15
  got plant-based avocado oil butter.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah. How the fuck do they make that? That's
• 1:40:23
  the problem with all that stuff that's like fake meat
• 1:40:27
  and fake this is that it's really processed.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: You know, I think if you want to eat vegetables
• 1:40:33
  and vegetarian diet, like the way to do it is
• 1:40:36
  the way the Indians do it. It's like Indian food.
• 1:40:39
  From India? Oh, yeah. There's a lot of amazing Indian
• 1:40:43
  vegetarian food.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: I stay in the Indian restaurant.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, so good. So spicy and so delicious. And they've
• 1:40:49
  been cooking just vegetarian dishes for probably thousands of years.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: Cleans you right out, too.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's true. It opens up the gates.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: Bama lama.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go, baby.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: Don't have a flight. Yeah.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: Exactly. If you do, get a seat in the back.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's... But there was a place that I used
• 1:41:09
  to live near, near my old house in California that
• 1:41:12
  was in an Indian neighborhood. And there was this Indian restaurant.
• 1:41:16
  It was like a cafeteria style where you just go
• 1:41:20
  and– I didn't even know what the fuck the names
• 1:41:22
  of these things were. They had photos. of whatever it was.
• 1:41:25
  But it was all in Indian. And I would just
• 1:41:27
  point it out. And it was all, everyone who ate
• 1:41:29
  there was Indian. It was very few regular, I mean,
• 1:41:32
  no white people, no African Americans. It was all Indians.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: Wait, I feel like I might have fucking been there.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: In the valley. In the valley. It's in the valley.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a restaurant.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: No, it's like a store in the back of the store.
• 1:41:43
  You've been to that place.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can buy some fucking spices of your own. Yes, yes.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: God, I wish I remembered the name of the place
• 1:41:49
  because the spices were awesome too. It was a great place.
• 1:41:53
  And in the back, they had this like cafeteria style.
• 1:41:56
  It was all Indian people. Yep.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: Phenomenal. Phenomenal restaurant.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: I'm the kind of guy that do that too. Like
• 1:42:01
  I'll go to the Asian market and shit. I'll go
• 1:42:03
  to the park.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: I'll go.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: I know that I'm getting a bunch of good shit.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's it. India sweets and spices. Damn, Jamie's a wizard. Nice.
• 1:42:11
  Where's that joint? Canoga Park. That's it. Canoga.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: Canoga Park.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: That's exactly it. That's the spot.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: That's not far from our office. And that is.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's real close to where my old studio was, too.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: And I still got the same office, though, right over there. Yo, bro.
• 1:42:28
  Your old studio, right? Yeah. You know what happened to it, right?
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: Bro, that whole shit, they tore that shit down.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: They did?
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: It's now the L.A. Rams training facility.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: Do you remember that AMC? Yeah.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: Bro. Really?
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: Tore it down, bro. They building some other shit there.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: That is crazy.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Because back, that's for the fans to know. I could
• 1:42:52
  see Joe's office from my window, his studio from my
• 1:42:55
  window back in those days and shit. Wow. But now,
• 1:42:59
  all that is the L.A. Rams training facility. So I
• 1:43:03
  watch the Rams train and shit from my window.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: Well, that's crazy.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: That neighborhood's very interesting. There's a lot of cool stuff.
• 1:43:10
  There's a phenomenal Mexican spot down there. What is it called?
• 1:43:14
  The Big Burrito? That's what it's called, right? I think
• 1:43:17
  that's it. There's this phenomenal Mexican joint. And you go
• 1:43:22
  in there, it's all like Mexican soap operas playing. Everybody
• 1:43:24
  speaks Spanish. No one there is speaking English. And the
• 1:43:28
  food is sensational. That's it.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: El Big Burrito.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: El Big Burrito. That place fucking rules. When I lived there,
• 1:43:36
  I didn't tell people about it because I didn't want
• 1:43:38
  to blow up the spot. I wanted to be able
• 1:43:40
  to go in there. Right, right. I would never bring
• 1:43:43
  it up on the podcast. And they've reached out to
• 1:43:45
  me thanking me because we brought it up a few times.
• 1:43:48
  But that place fucking rules. You want to get like
• 1:43:51
  a legit burrito, legit quesadilla, legit tacos, like Lengua tacos,
• 1:43:57
  like cow tongue. I know you don't eat meat, but
• 1:44:00
  if you did. And even their bean burritos are fucking phenomenal.
• 1:44:03
  It's just like real, legit, spicy Mexican food.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: Well, to me, it's all about the sauce. If you
• 1:44:09
  got good salsa, you know.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: What I mean? Oh, that place is so good. There's
• 1:44:15
  those places that you find in L.A. that are real
• 1:44:17
  hard to find in Texas. Texas, you get a lot
• 1:44:20
  of Tex-Mex. You know, whereas in L.A., you get straight Mexican.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that for a moment because I actually
• 1:44:28
  thought about that because New York, I mean, now it's okay.
• 1:44:32
  But New York, we, for years, bro, we didn't have
• 1:44:36
  good Mexican food, bro.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: Did you now?
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because now it's been more, some more brothers came
• 1:44:42
  and there's some pocket communities. But trust me, in New York, bro,
• 1:44:47
  for years, I thought I was eating Mexican food until
• 1:44:51
  I went to California.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: And I was like, okay.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: San Diego has some of the absolute best.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: Mexican food in the world. San Diego is great. But
• 1:44:59
  I find Texas and New Mexico, like I find this
• 1:45:04
  part of the country as well having a lot of
• 1:45:08
  good flavors. But I'm interested, how do you, like, if
• 1:45:11
  you were to say from your travels, the best Mexican food,
• 1:45:15
  is it California? Is it the Midwest?
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: What would you say?
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: Well, there's really good Mexican food in Texas, but you
• 1:45:22
  got to seek it out. Whereas there's a lot of
• 1:45:25
  Tex-Mex here, which is also really good. But you could
• 1:45:29
  tell it's not straight Mexican. You know what I mean?
• 1:45:32
  It's like a fusion. Right. And in California, you don't
• 1:45:35
  have any of that. In California, it's just Mexican. And
• 1:45:37
  there's so many great Mexican restaurants in California.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: San Diego is filled with them, but L.A. is filled
• 1:45:43
  with them, too. But it's spots like that, like the
• 1:45:45
  Big Burrito.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: Where you go to a place like that, and you
• 1:45:48
  walk in, and you're like.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God, I'm home.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: Because it's like the smells, and then you see the
• 1:45:52
  Spanish soap operas playing.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, okay, this is legit.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was driving down the street last night and shit, and...
• 1:46:01
  I just found this really funny, right? So I'm driving
• 1:46:03
  down the street. I mean, I'm not driving. Personally, I
• 1:46:05
  don't drive. But the car, my car.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: You don't drive at all?
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: I don't drive.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: I haven't driven since 2012. I haven't driven a car.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: How come?
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: I just, I just, I let go. You know what happened, bro?
• 1:46:15
  What happened? I was in China.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: You don't want to drive in China.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I got to be honest. Like, we was doing
• 1:46:23
  a film there. And every time, every morning that I
• 1:46:27
  would go to work, it almost, like every day, It
• 1:46:31
  almost happened. Like, it almost, like, that's. Almost a car accident.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: Every day, bro.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: So, and even, even, even, even, like, when my brother
• 1:46:41
  Russell Crowe, like, we'll get to set on the morning.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: I love that, dude.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: And he'll say the same thing, like, yo, Bobby, like,
• 1:46:48
  I'll be like, yeah, bro.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: We made it. Right?
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: But, so, so then when I came home, I just
• 1:46:57
  stopped driving, bro.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: You just didn't want to be a part of it anymore? Nope.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: I haven't drove since then.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: Have you ever fucked with any of those Waymos? You
• 1:47:04
  ever gotten any of those things? You? No. No. No.
• 1:47:08
  But I do have a Tesla that'll drive me.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: Have you did it?
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I've had it drive me all the way home. Yeah?
• 1:47:13
  It's crazy. Yeah.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: How do you feel, though?
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: Uncomfortable. I don't like it. I like driving. I do.
• 1:47:20
  I enjoy driving. But with my Tesla, I'll put an address, like, say,
• 1:47:25
  if I want to go to a restaurant or something
• 1:47:26
  like that, and go, doo-doo. And it'll drive me. It'll
• 1:47:29
  stop at stop signs and stop lights. It'll change lanes
• 1:47:32
  if there's anything in the way. It hits the blinkers
• 1:47:35
  to change lanes. It turns. It does everything. Right. I mean,
• 1:47:38
  it literally can drive you from point A to– do
• 1:47:42
  you ever fuck with.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: It, Jamie?
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: Do you ever use it?
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: I just found out through the update that, like, I
• 1:47:47
  haven't been using full self-driving. I've been using whatever was
• 1:47:50
  right before that, which to me I thought was the
• 1:47:52
  exact same. It drives itself too.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: What's the difference? I don't know.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: Because it said that you're, like, it gave me an
• 1:48:00
  option to turn it on. Oh.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: I thought I was, what? Hold on. What am I
• 1:48:05
  doing then? Oh, that's weird. Because it still drives itself.
• 1:48:08
  I don't remember because I turned, I got my, it's
• 1:48:10
  a part of a subscription, right? Isn't it?
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: That's when I got, I was like, wait, I thought
• 1:48:14
  I had it.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: Well, whatever. Whatever it's been doing. Whatever it is, I
• 1:48:18
  definitely have it.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: Which means? it's part of a subscription. You mean it
• 1:48:21
  ain't automatic?
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: I think so. I think you pay more for it.
• 1:48:25
  I'm not sure. I don't want to talk out of turn.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: I also didn't understand it either, but yeah, I think so.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: I think you pay for it because I think it's
• 1:48:33
  more complex. It's using a bunch of different. I don't know.
• 1:48:37
  I'm making things up. I don't know.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: But I do know it works. I saw the Waymo.
• 1:48:41
  I saw a Waymo on the way here to you.
• 1:48:44
  And it was right beside us. I looked in there.
• 1:48:47
  And I was like, yo, bro, why have a steering
• 1:48:50
  wheel with the old school fucking.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: With a gear changer?
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. If nobody going to drive this shit.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: Well, in case it breaks. And then if somehow, maybe
• 1:49:00
  there's an override where you could just drive it.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but still. That's the grandma thing, bro.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: The shifter on the column?
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: It's like, we in the future, there shouldn't be no
• 1:49:12
  steering wheel like that.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: My Cadillac has that. My Cadillac shifts on the column
• 1:49:17
  like that.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: That's for the what? An Escalade?
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: Does it? Putting drive like that. I thought shit was
• 1:49:22
  right here.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: Uh-uh.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: I got my shit right here.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: Pretty sure.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: That might be for.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: Your lights and shit. No, I'm pretty sure. Okay. I mean,
• 1:49:30
  I have a bunch of cars.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: I don't drive. I don't even know.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: I do not drive. We're going to put a studio
• 1:49:35
  in at the racetrack, the Circuit of the Americas. I'm
• 1:49:38
  going to take you around the racetrack. I'm going to
• 1:49:40
  put you in a car. You're going to drive around
• 1:49:42
  the racetrack.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, wait.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know about this thing for the Escalade, I thought.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the suit. Not the new one.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it says 2023.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: No, 2026 Escalade V.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: Escalade.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: Gearship. Yeah, but it doesn't. That's not how it works.
• 1:50:03
  I'm 90% sure. There it is right there on the column.
• 1:50:06
  See it right there. That's how it is. That's what
• 1:50:08
  mine looks like.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: Okay. See that little, they put it back up. Yeah.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: They put it back up there. It was down there.
• 1:50:13
  It clears all the room on your console.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's, that's where mine is. I love that. So anyway,
• 1:50:20
  I'm coming.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to escalate yesterday.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know where the gear shit was at, but
• 1:50:25
  I got the window down, getting some of this beautiful, uh,
• 1:50:29
  Austin air. And, A truck drives up beside me playing
• 1:50:35
  this Spanish song. He's blasting this shit. The shit sound
• 1:50:40
  cool like a motherfucker, right? I'm like, yo, what is
• 1:50:43
  this shit? So I Shazam it. Right? So I Shazam it.
• 1:50:49
  And then I get the song, right?
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: And then I start playing it in my car. And
• 1:50:54
  the truck keeps going on. But then we're still driving slow.
• 1:50:57
  Then I can see the car beside me. They Shazammed it.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute. That doesn't happen. I mean,
• 1:51:06
  that's what we need again. Yeah. Like somebody that's playing
• 1:51:11
  some fucking music. You never heard the song before. You
• 1:51:15
  like it.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: You got it. You know what I mean?
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: I love Shazam.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: I got two Spanish songs now in my joint that
• 1:51:25
  is part of my... My new playlist, yo.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: They just got from listening to people's cars.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just driving by like, hold on, that shit sound dope.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a new thing, right? Because we don't have
• 1:51:35
  radio as much anymore. There's not a lot of people
• 1:51:38
  listening to the radio. A lot of times you're getting
• 1:51:40
  new songs. Oftentimes I'll be at dinner someplace and they'll
• 1:51:44
  be playing music and I'll go, oh, what is this?
• 1:51:46
  And I'll put my phone up in the air and
• 1:51:48
  try to catch it.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: That's dope. That's one of the greatest things about technology
• 1:51:52
  to me because it's that ability to know. Mm-hmm. You know, like,
• 1:51:57
  you can know now if you want to know.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: You don't got to wait to know. You can be like,
• 1:52:01
  you know what, motherfucker? Like, every time you get a
• 1:52:04
  thought here that we're not too sure about, he could
• 1:52:07
  hit that button.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: And give us a reference.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: I know. Sometimes we leave a podcast, and I'm like,
• 1:52:13
  maybe we should have looked that one up, because it
• 1:52:15
  turns out that shit's not true.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I have beaten Google a few times now.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: You've won? You beat Google? Yeah. Well, Google's a little deceptive,
• 1:52:24
  I think. But if you use AI, like we use perplexity,
• 1:52:28
  it searches for the whole internet. It doesn't just use
• 1:52:32
  whatever Google– the problem with Google– not that it's a problem.
• 1:52:37
  But these are curated searches. So like say– like here's
• 1:52:42
  a perfect example. Say if you want to find a
• 1:52:45
  Mexican restaurant and you use Google. What Google is going
• 1:52:49
  to do is some people are paying– So that their
• 1:52:53
  restaurant gets to the top of the search list. That's
• 1:52:57
  a little bit of a problem.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: Because that might not be the best restaurant. That might
• 1:53:00
  just be a restaurant that paid Google. Whereas if you
• 1:53:04
  go to like perplexity and say in terms of like
• 1:53:07
  restaurant critics, what is the favorite authentic Mexican restaurant in Austin?
• 1:53:15
  And it'll tell you. Right. It'll say these people believe
• 1:53:19
  that this is it. And there's no curation yet.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, my wife is actually, we were talking about
• 1:53:24
  this today, like one day they're going to fuck that
• 1:53:26
  up too. And people are going to pay to get that.
• 1:53:30
  But right now they haven't done that. So right now
• 1:53:33
  you could find spots, like cool spots that haven't, you know,
• 1:53:37
  with no curation. No sponsored. Exactly.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: Let's do a test real quick.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: So there's 196,940,000 square miles on the planet, right?
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: There's 63,360 inches, right, in the mile because it's 5,280
• 1:53:51
  feet in the mile. So I'm going to start over.
• 1:53:57
  There's 196,940,000 square miles. In the country? On the planet?
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: On the planet.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: For one mile, there's 5,280 feet.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: Okay. And, of course, there's 12 inches in the feet,
• 1:54:16
  so you multiply that by 12, you'll get 63,360 inches.
• 1:54:22
  I want perplexity to tell me how many square inches
• 1:54:29
  on the planet.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: Ooh.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: Let's see what we can get.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: Boy, that number's got to be bananas. I guarantee you
• 1:54:37
  we're going to look at a long fucking number. A
• 1:54:41
  lot of zeros. That's a good question. That is a
• 1:54:46
  good question. Dun, dun, dun. Does it even have an answer?
• 1:54:54
  It's probably confused.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: It's like, hold on, what the fuck are you talking about?
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: You're perplexing me. What are you doing? We perplex, perplexity.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: Okay. Eight times 10 to the 17 square inches on
• 1:55:06
  Earth's surface.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: Um, What does that look like in a raw number?
• 1:55:17
  Ask it what it looks like in a raw number.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 3: Eight was 17.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: 17 zeros?
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: Pretty much.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: 10 to the 17th? That's what that is? 17 zeros?
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: So basically, it took the 63360 and they squared it. Uh-huh.
• 1:55:34
  And that's how they got to there.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: But it didn't give us no fucking direct answer, right?
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: Well, it did, but it Did it with 10 to
• 1:55:45
  the 17th.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's do this now.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: Type that out.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: Type that number out and divide it by four.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's see. Type it out. I'm going to see
• 1:55:53
  what this looks like. This must look bananas. Whoa!
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: And now divide it by four.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: Before you do that, can you ask it, how would
• 1:56:07
  you say that?
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: I was trying to figure it out.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: It's not a trillion. It's not a quadrillion. What is that?
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: It's a quintillion.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: Is it a quintillion?
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 3: This is billion, right?
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: This is trillion.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: So it's a quadrillion?
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: Wait, no.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: Fifteen.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: Just to ask it, how would you say that, please?
• 1:56:30
  How would you say that?
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: 800 quadrillion square inches. Wow. Remember when you were a kid,
• 1:56:46
  you'd think that was a fake word?
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: Bro, I want a quadrillion money.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: Would you believe that the Earth weighs, the atmosphere weighs
• 1:56:54
  15 quintillion tons?
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: Just the atmosphere?
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just the atmosphere.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: Just the gases.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: The planet Earth weighs 6 sextillion.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: Kanye said the wildest shit on my podcast once. He goes,
• 1:57:08
  How much does the earth cost? Right? And at the time,
• 1:57:13
  I was like, what? And then I thought about it.
• 1:57:15
  I was like, oh, shit. Like property is valuable. You
• 1:57:18
  can own property. Right? Like everybody kind of– everything is owned.
• 1:57:23
  Like how much is the earth?
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: That's a big– that's a– well, you could get the
• 1:57:28
  number there too because, well, if you count the minerals– Right.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. And then there's an oil in the ocean,
• 1:57:36
  the ocean and the fish.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: Right. And then all the animals.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah. And then and then it has to appreciate
• 1:57:45
  day by day.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: Why don't I put that into perplexity? If you were
• 1:57:49
  going to sell the earth, how much would it be worth? Oh,
• 1:57:53
  including everything on it. That's a mind fucking half. Economists
• 1:57:59
  usually estimate the world's real estate, all land plus the
• 1:58:02
  buildings on it, a few hundred trillion U.S. dollars, not
• 1:58:05
  counting oceans, polar ice or unowned space. That sounds like
• 1:58:09
  a bargain.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: A few hundred trillion, that's it?
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: Not.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's say, let's ask, what is the worth of
• 1:58:18
  the earth, all its property, all its minerals, animals, and objects?
• 1:58:29
  That's a crazy question. That's a crazy question.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good one, though.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everything on Earth. Every watch, every diamond ring.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: Every hat. One dollar.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: Every piece of art.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 3: The question I typed in was property and lands.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: Right. What is the value of everything on Earth?
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: I like what you said.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: Every electronic value of everything on Earth, including... Including animals, minerals, property,
• 1:59:08
  and objects. Oh, boy. I wonder how it's going to
• 1:59:14
  figure this out.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: I bet it will.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 3: It's going to look off of.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: It's going to freak out. It's going to blow a gasket.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 3: It's not figuring it out.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: There's no precise number. Oh, somewhere in the quadrillions to sextillions...
• 1:59:29
  Of U.S. dollars, depending on what you count and how
• 1:59:33
  you value it.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: This is plausible attempts to add it up.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: There's no single agreed upon price tag for everything on Earth.
• 1:59:39
  But this is the answer to Kanye's question.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: But you know what, though? Now, hold on. We just
• 1:59:44
  learned something there. It said quadrillion to what?
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: Sextillions.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: Now, ask, how much does the planet Earth weigh?
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, I already did that, but we passed it
• 1:59:54
  before I could show you. Atmosphere weighs quintillion pounds.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: Twelve quintillion pounds. Yeah. In total.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I said 15, so I was off. I forgot
• 2:00:05
  that number. But ask how much does the planet Earth weigh?
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: Whoa. How much does the entire Earth weigh? Let's guess.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: No, don't do the atmosphere. We're just trying to get
• 2:00:26
  their value. I want to see if it gives you–
• 2:00:29
  I mean, the atmosphere should already be included, right?
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 3: That's why I think it won't include it.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: So basically– What is that word?
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 2: What is that in a word? Ask that what that is,
• 2:00:44
  that 13.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tell them put it in pounds, not kilograms.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: Because that's not even seven. That's eight. What does that mean? Eight. Right,
• 2:00:53
  but what does that, ask it to say that. Can
• 2:00:59
  you say that? Yeah, what does it mean? How do
• 2:01:04
  you say it? Septillion. 13 septillion pounds.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 3: That doesn't sound as impressive.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: No. It doesn't.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 3: It sounds like a couple lizards.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: You know, I believe it's wrong, bro. Why? Why? Because
• 2:01:22
  when you take the square miles, the circumference, right? And
• 2:01:27
  you multiply the... There's a formula to get that weight.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: It doesn't come out to that.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: What does it come out to?
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: Six sextillion. Six followed by 21 zeros.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 3: This is more. This was three more zeros on top
• 2:01:41
  of that.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But it sounds good. But if you take the
• 2:01:45
  formula of a sphere, of the mass... Mm-hmm. This number
• 2:01:54
  is closer.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: But does it take into account the density of the
• 2:01:58
  inner earth? Because I think that's probably where a lot
• 2:02:01
  of the weight is coming from, right? The density of
• 2:02:03
  the inner earth is immense. Yeah, I mean— It's all compressed.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's compressed energy.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: If it's hollow. If it's hollow. It could be hollow.
• 2:02:13
  If it's hollow.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, hold on a second. We've got to take a
• 2:02:17
  sponsor break. This is the RZA live on the Joe
• 2:02:19
  Rogan podcast, Joe Rogan Experience. I have a new movie
• 2:02:22
  coming out. May 1st. May 1st. It's called One Spoon
• 2:02:26
  of Chocolate, starring Shameik Moore, Paris Jackson, Blair Underwood. It
• 2:02:31
  follows an ex-military convict who comes home and trying to
• 2:02:36
  find a better life for himself, ends up in a
• 2:02:37
  small town where everything goes fucking bananas. In theaters everywhere.
• 2:02:44
  May 1st.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 2: When is it going to be available on streaming? I
• 2:02:47
  don't know.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: Soon right how do you usually do that well to
• 2:02:51
  be honest i'm like like.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: Iron fist was what year was that out.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: That was 2011 2012 and there was a.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: Different atmosphere back then right pre-covid covid changed a lot
• 2:03:00
  of like movie going habits.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: Right yeah i want the movie going experience to come
• 2:03:05
  back though.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah i do too yeah i mean there's something
• 2:03:09
  about going to see a great movie with a bunch
• 2:03:11
  of people that's a real experience.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah i i think i i i'm so much i
• 2:03:15
  mean My art, my career is based on sneaking into
• 2:03:20
  a fucking movie theater and watching three kung fu movies.
• 2:03:24
  So I'm a big into cinema. I think what we did,
• 2:03:27
  so this particular film is actually coming through my own
• 2:03:31
  distribution company called 36 Cinema. And I think we did
• 2:03:34
  a deal with the theaters that they can have at
• 2:03:37
  least 30 days. A lot of people are doing 17
• 2:03:40
  days in the theaters or 21 days. And cinema is
• 2:03:44
  suffering because of that. Because why go to the theater
• 2:03:47
  if I got.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 2: It at home?
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And home is, of course,
• 2:03:51
  a great place to watch a movie. But when you're
• 2:03:53
  making a movie, right, you're making it for the theater.
• 2:03:57
  We haven't. TV is made for home, but cinema is
• 2:04:00
  made for cinema. Like we haven't. What can I say?
• 2:04:04
  Like the sound, the color, the framing. Like I use
• 2:04:07
  anamorphic lenses.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: Anamorphic, like the lenses of the 50s where you fucking
• 2:04:13
  get this whole fucking scope. You know what I mean?
• 2:04:16
  And so, yeah, you can watch it on your phone.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: What is the difference between an anamorphic lens and a
• 2:04:21
  regular lens?
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: A regular lens would be the way it bends the
• 2:04:25
  light in all reality. So like you could have like 16.9. Okay.
• 2:04:28
  So most lenses are spherical now. That's that, right? Which
• 2:04:35
  is cool. Right? But look at anamorphic. It's the way
• 2:04:40
  it controls the light, the way the subject is happening.
• 2:04:43
  And so it kind of gives you more of a
• 2:04:45
  cinematic feel.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 2: Well, your focus, it's certainly like a little more blurry
• 2:04:49
  in the background.
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: And it kind of, it's the way it's compressing that
• 2:04:56
  light differently.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: And so you, with this lens, do you do everything
• 2:05:01
  on film or is it digital?
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: I actually shot this on digital. So, yeah. So, I mean,
• 2:05:08
  I'm in the digital age. So, I did shoot digital.
• 2:05:10
  But I did, we did make 35 millimeter prints of
• 2:05:15
  the movie. Oh. So, if you're in California and you
• 2:05:18
  go to the theater called the Vista. Have you ever
• 2:05:20
  been to the Vista?
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: Where's that? I think it's in Los Feliz or some
• 2:05:25
  shit like that.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: I'm bad in my Hollywood neighborhoods. I'm like, I'm still
• 2:05:30
  a New Yorker.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 3: Right. I get it.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: The Vista Theater will show the film on 35mm for
• 2:05:35
  like two weeks. It'll be there starting May 1st.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's cool.
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: So if you want to see it, yeah, if you
• 2:05:39
  want to see. And 35mm, oh, there you go, the Vista.
• 2:05:42
  I love this guy.
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 2: Hey, Jamie.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: Jamie's the best. His trigger finger is a motherfucker.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's a goat. Well, he's psychic. He knows what
• 2:05:50
  you're talking about.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: Exactly. He's like, the Vista.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's the Vista. So what is the difference, like,
• 2:05:59
  the way it looks to you when you see it
• 2:06:01
  on 35mm versus digital?
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the 35mm kind of, it makes the
• 2:06:07
  colors a little more richer and darker, like kind of
• 2:06:11
  how the 70s films looked and even up to the 80s.
• 2:06:15
  The digital one, because I've watched my film in both formats,
• 2:06:19
  the digital was more brighter and actually more familiar.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: Now to us. Right, we're accustomed to it.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're accustomed to it. But I played it on
• 2:06:29
  April 22nd. In fact, I'm going to talk about that
• 2:06:31
  a little bit, if you don't mind. But on April 22nd,
• 2:06:34
  we had our premiere in California on 35mm. And it
• 2:06:39
  was my first time seeing it on 35mm. And it
• 2:06:43
  felt very nostalgic. I felt like I was back. It
• 2:06:48
  felt like a movie only. Not like a movie and
• 2:06:53
  a TV show or a movie. It felt only like
• 2:06:56
  a movie, the only a movie experience, the flickering. Uh,
• 2:07:00
  when you, when you, you know, when you're doing 35 millimeter,
• 2:07:03
  you need, uh, you know, a real camera.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: And so the light is going from this camera, from
• 2:07:08
  this one, then they got to switch the reel from this,
• 2:07:11
  from this. And it's like, it's a certain thing that's happening,
• 2:07:13
  a certain pacing, a certain grant granular thing that's happening
• 2:07:17
  that for me, for my film, it felt almost like
• 2:07:19
  an honor to watch it like that.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's cool.
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: Um, I want to get, make a, make a, uh,
• 2:07:26
  So check this out, bro. So we talked about this
• 2:07:30
  last time I said, but April 22nd, right? That was
• 2:07:34
  the day that I was acquitted from a crime and
• 2:07:43
  started my life over. I was facing eight years, April 22nd.
• 2:07:47
  That's back in 1992.
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: As you can see a year later, I'm a platinum producer.
• 2:07:54
  But before that, I was heading to hell.
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: April 22nd.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: Serendipitously, is the day that my film premieres on 35mm
• 2:08:08
  at the Vista Theater in Hollywood, April 22nd. But you've
• 2:08:11
  seen the opening of the film as well. So when
• 2:08:14
  my character gets out of jail, he marks on the
• 2:08:17
  calendar the day he gets out April 22nd.
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 2: Mmm.
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: It's special. This is a special film. It's special. It's
• 2:08:26
  for my life, I'm saying. For me, it's like.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's cool.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: And it was my buddy Shavo from System of a
• 2:08:32
  Down birthday. We actually celebrate April 22nd every year because
• 2:08:37
  it wasn't my birthday, but it was the birth of
• 2:08:39
  the RZA because before that, I was known as Prince Joaquin.
• 2:08:42
  But after that, acquitting, and my mother telling me, you know,
• 2:08:46
  you got a second chance, I was like, exit Prince Joaquin,
• 2:08:50
  enter the RZA. Nice.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 2: That's amazing. Yeah. So when you were talking about, um,
• 2:08:56
  the streaming thing, so do you, is that something that's
• 2:09:00
  negotiated beforehand? Like it'll be in the theaters for X
• 2:09:04
  amount of time, or do you, once it's in the theater,
• 2:09:06
  do you then like, depending on how well it does
• 2:09:09
  in the theater, is that how you negotiate a streaming
• 2:09:11
  deal or how does it work? No, it works.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: No, it works. It's usually negotiated ahead of time.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: Um, and the, or the streamers kind of dictate what's
• 2:09:19
  going to happen. So since we had this on our
• 2:09:22
  own company, we had a chance to make the rules ourselves.
• 2:09:26
  So I didn't make a streaming deal, but I made
• 2:09:29
  the theatrical deal first, and I gave the theaters 30
• 2:09:32
  days first. And so now my streamer, he would go,
• 2:09:36
  my streaming distribution, which is a Samuel Goodwin, they would
• 2:09:41
  go and, I hope I pronounced that right, bro. I
• 2:09:43
  could fuck a word up sometime.
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: LAUGHTER I think that's the right word.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 1: Okay. What up, Peter?
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: I'm the wrong guy to ask, though.
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could fuck a word up. But anyway, so, yeah,
• 2:09:59
  he'll solicit streamers, but we wanted a 30-day cinema experience.
• 2:10:05
  And in the future, I'm going to try for 45 days, bro.
• 2:10:08
  Remember when we was kids, bro, Star Wars was in
• 2:10:11
  the theaters three times before you had a chance to
• 2:10:13
  see it come home. Yeah.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: And what did you do?
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 1: You went back to the theater.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: Because the lights, the sound, the vibe of what you're creating,
• 2:10:22
  I make it for the theater. I got to be
• 2:10:24
  honest with you. I make film for the theater. When
• 2:10:27
  my other film came out during the pandemic, Cutthroat City,
• 2:10:31
  since there was a pandemic, you know, even though my
• 2:10:35
  contract said it should be in theaters, the pandemic of
• 2:10:40
  it kind of made it a force majeure, like maybe
• 2:10:43
  not in theaters. But my producer... Michael Mendelsohn, who, you know,
• 2:10:48
  is a good guy, he said, all right, I didn't
• 2:10:53
  make this shit for no streaming, bro. Okay? I shot
• 2:10:56
  my shit in anamorphic lenses. I got all the sound. Like,
• 2:11:00
  I made it for the theaters. He was like, yeah,
• 2:11:02
  but the theaters ain't nothing, bro. Nobody's going to the theaters.
• 2:11:06
  I was like, well, I don't know. Then hold it.
• 2:11:08
  But he said, I can't hold it, bro. Like, you know,
• 2:11:10
  it's business. But he still, no, but he still said, okay,
• 2:11:14
  I'm going to pitch you.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 2: On 200 screens.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: And you could go and get to, you know. And
• 2:11:19
  he did it. You know what I mean? So all
• 2:11:21
  my films has always go to the cinema first. And
• 2:11:25
  if I have my way, every film I make will
• 2:11:27
  always start at a cinema.
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 2: Have you ever tried using those? What's the Apple one, Jamie?
• 2:11:34
  Those Apple AR goggles? Apple Vision Pro. Apple Vision Pro.
• 2:11:38
  I heard watching movies on those is phenomenal. Yes. Okay. Okay.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: But you have to also design it for that, too.
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, to get the full experience. Because, come on,
• 2:11:49
  you're going like this. And there's been some artists who
• 2:11:52
  have been able to create stuff for that. It's almost like,
• 2:11:55
  I mean, I won't say it's like the Sphere. Have
• 2:11:57
  you been to the Sphere?
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 2: Yes. But only for a fight.
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: Right. No.
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 2: They had a UFC there. It was amazing.
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: I love it there. But Darren Iannoski had did a
• 2:12:06
  movie made directly for the Sphere. In fact, there's another movie.
• 2:12:10
  They're doing another movie right now that they showed me
• 2:12:13
  a clip of. That's going to be made in the sphere.
• 2:12:15
  And it's actually very sports-based. And so it's crazy. And,
• 2:12:18
  of course, The Wizard of Oz.
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 2: I heard that's nuts.
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen that there.
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: You saw The Wizard of Oz?
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 2: I heard there's all sorts of crazy new effects, and
• 2:12:26
  they added a bunch of stuff to the movie.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. And it's fucking... But his fear is amazing anyway.
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: It's an incredible experience.
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 3: This is a new thing AMC has just shown recently
• 2:12:37
  and announced called Screen X.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: It's 270 degrees.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 3: It's going to surround the audience in some way.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 2: Well, that's how you get people to go back to
• 2:12:45
  the movie theater. Give them something like this where they're like, what?
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like recut. So it might be a
• 2:12:50
  fun way to go back and maybe see a movie
• 2:12:53
  you really like.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, like see Avatar in that? Or Alien.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: They got the Matrix like that now. That's that Cosm.
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 3: That's kind of like the sphere thing. This just sort
• 2:13:02
  of is announced. It's only in two cities right now.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: There's a place. I know there's a place in Dallas.
• 2:13:09
  Where they show UFC fights. Yeah, that's Cosm. That's Cosm?
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's with that Matrix thing.
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 2: That's nuts, man.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: I love that he got the answers.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's a genius. But with the place in Dallas,
• 2:13:20
  the Cosm place, like you're seated here and the screen
• 2:13:24
  is like 60 feet tall and it's right in front
• 2:13:26
  of you. And you're watching the fights as if.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 3: This is the Matrix.
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, so this is the Matrix.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they worked with the film company to sort of
• 2:13:34
  like remake it and add extra stuff.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 3: There's also a new screen I just saw. I think
• 2:13:42
  it's going to be in Clearwater, Florida. It's going to
• 2:13:44
  be the world's biggest screen.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: See if you can show.
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 3: I'll show you the fight thing.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, show me fight scenes. Like, people were watching the
• 2:13:53
  fights there. I was like, okay, that might actually be
• 2:13:56
  better than being there live. Like, look how crazy the
• 2:13:59
  size of the screen is.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 2: Like, look who you're watching. Like, you're sitting right there.
• 2:14:04
  I mean, that fight is gigantic. Yeah. It's huge because
• 2:14:09
  the thing about going to see the fights live, look
• 2:14:12
  at how big that is.
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 1: You can fall away. Yeah.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 2: Show that again. Like, look at that. Look how nuts
• 2:14:16
  that is.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 2: That is nuts.
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 3: You don't get to see these camera angles at home either,
• 2:14:21
  which is awesome.
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 2: Not like that. Not like that.
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: I love this because this is giving me hope, bro. Like,
• 2:14:27
  everything you just showed me is giving me hope for cinema.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: Right. And this is, like, cheaper than buying tickets, and
• 2:14:34
  this is better than any ticket you could ever buy
• 2:14:36
  for the fights. Like, better than anything. Better than my seat.
• 2:14:39
  And I'm sitting cage side.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: How much a ticket like this would cost?
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 2: That's a good question.
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 3: They do sell tickets for this.
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's crazy. Click on that one. May 9th.
• 2:14:52
  How much does that cost? $ 40.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 3: $ 100.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: If you want to.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 3: Sit probably real close, you have $ 20 to get inside.
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, general admission is $ 20. What is the front row?
• 2:15:00
  Where's the screen? The display's right there. What are those,
• 2:15:03
  like right there where it says two?
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know where you'd want to be.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: $ 167. How much? $ 167?
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: $ 167.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 2: That's a bargain compared to how much it would cost
• 2:15:13
  if you actually went to see the fight. Nice. And
• 2:15:16
  it's probably a better experience. Plus, you get commentary. You
• 2:15:19
  get to hear everything. And you're right there. And then
• 2:15:22
  it's not just like being at home, which is great
• 2:15:24
  because there's a bunch of people you're experiencing with. So
• 2:15:27
  it adds to the excitement and the energy.
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 3: That's the knock I was going to say with the
• 2:15:30
  Vision Pro is it's still to right now, you're by yourself.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: By yourself.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 3: Which is kind of, for me, I'm a single guy
• 2:15:37
  in my apartment with a dog.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: Perfect.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 3: Perfect.
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 1: If you're at home.
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 3: With anybody, you're like, well, I can watch it.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Right. Catch up to me later.
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: Could you watch it with a chick where you hold
• 2:15:49
  hands and you both have Vision Pro and you both
• 2:15:51
  start at the same time? Three, two, one, go.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: That's funny. That's me and my wife on a plane.
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 2: You do that?
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: Even on the way here, bro.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: What do we watch?
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: We watch, oh, Sebastian. How do you say Sebastian? The
• 2:16:07
  last name is? Maniscalco. Yeah, thank you.
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, the comedian.
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. We watched him. He's a funny guy.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: Hilarious.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: He's a funny motherfucker, bro.
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 2: Very funny.
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 1: And so, yeah, so we do that every time, though.
• 2:16:17
  But we watched him on the way. So she wasn't
• 2:16:18
  the one seeing me laughing, and she ain't laughing yet.
• 2:16:21
  So we hit the button at the same time. And
• 2:16:25
  that guy is crazy, yo. He's funny.
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. They should have, like, simultaneous viewing option.
• 2:16:31
  Are you going to watch it with someone else? Would
• 2:16:32
  you like to view it simultaneously and then have them
• 2:16:35
  sync up with each other?
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 1: One plane does that. One plane does that. What airline
• 2:16:39
  was that? Qantas.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: I think Qantas is up on it.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 2: Well, they got those 16-hour flights. They got to make
• 2:16:49
  things interesting.
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it says watch with a friend.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's smart. Yeah, it's smart. That's smart. Yeah, it's interesting.
• 2:16:58
  What is the next level past AR with those goggles?
• 2:17:01
  It's going to be an immersive experience. We had the
• 2:17:04
  people from Perplexity who were here earlier today. And we
• 2:17:08
  were talking about how people with AI and all this stuff,
• 2:17:12
  they're going to want more human experiences, like going to
• 2:17:16
  see a live concert or seeing a sporting event live.
• 2:17:21
  I'm like, yeah, until it's completely immersive. And then it's
• 2:17:27
  like you're playing a video game, but you're in World
• 2:17:30
  of Warcraft or you're in Battlefield Earth or whatever game
• 2:17:34
  you're playing.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 1: I think for that form of entertainment of video game, yes.
• 2:17:38
  But I still think because even, you know, it's more senses, bro.
• 2:17:43
  It ain't just the sight and sound. It's the smell.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but what if they can recreate that? Like, what if...
• 2:17:50
  they get the technology where you can create a movie,
• 2:17:54
  but the person who is watching the movie is standing
• 2:17:58
  on the street, like in the opening scene where those
• 2:18:01
  girls pick that dude up and that sob. convertible. Like,
• 2:18:05
  what if you're standing, you feel the street, and you
• 2:18:08
  watch the dude.
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: Get in the car.
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 2: I think that's amazing.
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 1: Right. But you're standing at home by yourself? Yeah. Well,
• 2:18:14
  you'll be terrified in my film. Yeah, of course.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 2: But you'll be in it. You'll be in it.
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: That'll be interesting.
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's coming, man. I think that's coming.
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 1: Well, if that comes, reach out to me, and I'll
• 2:18:25
  write a script to make sure that we fucking hit
• 2:18:29
  you with it, right? Right.
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to capitalize on all the different Things
• 2:18:33
  that can take place.
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Do you remember the
• 2:18:37
  Saab fucking 900?
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. A friend of mine had one of those.
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 1: It was a cool car.
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 2: They were interesting looking. They were futuristic. They were different
• 2:18:46
  than any other car.
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: That's why in the film I was like, they was like, well,
• 2:18:49
  what kind of car you want? I was like, give
• 2:18:52
  me a Saab. I said, why? Did they still make them?
• 2:18:55
  I don't think so. I think they might have. No,
• 2:18:58
  I don't think they definitely don't make.
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 2: Sobs?
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: Uh-oh, hold on. Hold on.
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a good question. I know they
• 2:19:05
  make Volvo still.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in a Volvo.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they still make sobs.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 3: No, bankrupt in 2011.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no more sobs. But the punchline for me was
• 2:19:14
  that this sob, and I'll give you one spoiler of
• 2:19:17
  the film, as you finish the second half of it,
• 2:19:23
  there's no time. So I removed the time from the
• 2:19:27
  film so you don't know what year you're in. and
• 2:19:29
  that's why you'll see the sob and then you'll see
• 2:19:33
  when they're playing their video game and shit they playing oh.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 2: Right with yeah AR goggles and a glove that don't
• 2:19:40
  exist right I thought that too when I was seeing
• 2:19:43
  them move is that real?
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah the idea is that I'm glad you brought that
• 2:19:47
  up I want that to happen I want to see
• 2:19:49
  one day I could play a basketball game like this.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: That would be dope, right?
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 2: That would be.
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 2: They're getting real close to stuff like that. They're getting
• 2:19:58
  real close to stuff like that. We have an AR
• 2:20:02
  game out there that you– it's a zombie game. And
• 2:20:06
  you put the headphones on, the headset on. And you
• 2:20:10
  run around and you have an actual gun and you're
• 2:20:12
  shooting zombies.
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah.
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: And you're pointing it at it and it's like they're
• 2:20:16
  getting really close.
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 3: I'll show you something I discovered. Shout out to this guy.
• 2:20:19
  I think he's doing this all on his own. I
• 2:20:22
  found him and tweeted at him one day, but he
• 2:20:24
  didn't answer. Daniel Habib is his name. He's got this
• 2:20:27
  company called True 3D. He's done this with two movies
• 2:20:30
  so far, and I think you have to be in
• 2:20:31
  the theater to experience it. But it's kind of exactly
• 2:20:34
  what we're talking about. He converted a movie, I think, Insidious,
• 2:20:37
  a scary movie.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a scary movie.
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 3: He's not showing you what, because he's being smart. He's
• 2:20:43
  also developing it still. And he also did it with
• 2:20:45
  Interstellar just recently.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 3: I almost flew to New York just so I could
• 2:20:49
  go see it because I was very curious.
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 1: This is cool.
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 3: It looks awesome.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks cool.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 2: So he adapted it to the Vision Pro?
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, these are Justin MetaQuest headsets, I believe, and you
• 2:20:58
  probably have to be at the theater because I think
• 2:20:59
  that's where the sound's coming from.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, right, right, right.
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 3: As the user watching it, you get to decide how
• 2:21:07
  in-depth this becomes because if you want to see the
• 2:21:09
  people next to you, you can sort of like go
• 2:21:11
  like level two and still see your neighbor. Or go
• 2:21:14
  level four and be like fully in the room and
• 2:21:16
  you can't see anybody else. You can maybe just touch
• 2:21:18
  them because you know they're there.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: I like how some people are jumping and then there's
• 2:21:21
  some people that are like dead on the inside.
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 3: Because these are jump scares, he has that built in
• 2:21:26
  so you know when a jump scare is coming or
• 2:21:28
  you don't know when a jump scare is coming.
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, interesting.
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 3: So you can either be super scared or you can
• 2:21:35
  know and not be scared that someone's going to come
• 2:21:38
  from behind you.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 2: Why would you?
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 1: Pass up. Maybe it's on.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 3: This seems like it could fucking give you a heart attack.
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's people with weak hearts. Like, let me know.
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 1: Let me know when I'm going to get freaked out.
• 2:21:50
  And also, Dolby. I saw Dolby made this thing, these glasses.
• 2:21:53
  Have you seen these Dolby glasses, bro?
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 1: That you could hear shit, bro. Like surround sound with
• 2:22:04
  glasses on. Dolby, yeah. I mean, I hope I don't
• 2:22:07
  not be filling a secret.
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 2: What is it doing different? Like, what do you mean
• 2:22:11
  you can hear things? You can watch, see, and hear. Yeah,
• 2:22:14
  and Dolby vision. So it's surround sound, glasses.
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 2: And so the glasses, is it projecting it into your
• 2:22:21
  inner ear? Like, how is it doing it? Does it
• 2:22:23
  plug into your ear?
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 1: No, it doesn't even plug into your ear.
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 2: So it's one of those things that sits above the
• 2:22:28
  ear on the outside, like pressing against your skull?
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they kind of.
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 2: They have headphones like that, right? I've seen that.
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen some headphones that give you 12.1.
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like earbuds, and they don't go in your ear. They, like,
• 2:22:41
  sit on the skull.
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, see if you can find those Dolby glasses. I
• 2:22:46
  went to Dolby some months ago.
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 2: Is this a spoiler alert?
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: That's what I said. You can't edit this shit.
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 2: We could if we can't, if you're not supposed to know.
• 2:22:58
  I don't know.
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 3: There's something in here that doesn't. It's shown some 3D
• 2:23:01
  glasses they have, but it doesn't say sound is coming
• 2:23:03
  out of them. I would imagine if Dolby's making them
• 2:23:06
  sound as involved.
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 2: It has to be, right?
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 1: Dolby Cinema.
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's 3D. They're 3D glasses.
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, bro. Listen, I put them on, bro.
• 2:23:16
  You can hear shit.
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 2: So did you put them on to watch a movie?
• 2:23:20
  What did you put them on to watch?
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I put them on. They had a whole demo room.
• 2:23:25
  I was looking at something. And it sounded like I
• 2:23:29
  was in the room with It sounded like I was
• 2:23:32
  in a movie theater, but I took the glasses off.
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, look, this is what it is. So it's showing
• 2:23:36
  you everything in 3D.
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 3: You need to have the glasses, I think, to get
• 2:23:40
  the test.
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 1: And the sound is connected.
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 2: That's 2021. So this is five years old already.
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 3: Again, this might not be.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: So this is a Vision, but what about this Adobe Atmos?
• 2:23:55
  Atmos is the sound. Yeah. Plus Adobe Vision HDR.
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 1: Yep, 12.61. What year is that?
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 2: Let's see what year. 2024. Whoa. Oh, okay.
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: That's different. Okay, that's for your home. That's having your system.
• 2:24:26
  But they got some shit with it. It's in the glasses, bro.
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 2: Anyway. Well, we're in an interesting time when it comes
• 2:24:32
  to technology.
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 1: And all this VR stuff and where it's going. I'm
• 2:24:39
  happy about it. Are you?
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I know a lot of
• 2:24:43
  people are freaked out about AI. There's a lot of that.
• 2:24:45
  A lot of people are freaked out about AI music.
• 2:24:48
  A lot of people are freaked out about AI replacing
• 2:24:50
  actors and their ability to generate images and video.
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 1: I believe AI to be a tool. I'm from the
• 2:25:01
  hip-hop generation, right? So we're sampling a record, and therefore
• 2:25:06
  it's a digital replication of the record. It's not the record.
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 1: And especially when we're sampling at 16-bit or 12-bit or
• 2:25:14
  some bit that's not even where the computer or the
• 2:25:20
  AI or the chip has to fill in the pieces.
• 2:25:25
  This is why you get that sound you hear from hip-hop.
• 2:25:28
  So I always embraced it, the technology. I also know
• 2:25:33
  that it's nothing like the real thing. You know, I
• 2:25:36
  put on a, you know, even if I put on
• 2:25:40
  a piece of vinyl and put that needle on it
• 2:25:43
  and play it, because at my house I have it,
• 2:25:45
  I got all type of setups, right? But when we
• 2:25:49
  really want to have a good time, we just put
• 2:25:51
  on the fucking vinyl. And it sounds so much better.
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 2: Better different or it's got depth to it exactly it crackles.
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 1: Exactly it's something else yeah so it's nothing like the
• 2:26:03
  real thing but in but in the in between time
• 2:26:07
  in the meantime let's enjoy you know like you said
• 2:26:10
  if you could if i could make you feel like
• 2:26:13
  you know hawaii and you don't have to leave your
• 2:26:16
  house right cool but if you could go to hawaii
• 2:26:19
  right right right you know i mean yeah go to
• 2:26:21
  hawaii um I was trying to tell the AI industry
• 2:26:26
  or AI community that we got to change the A.
• 2:26:30
  It shouldn't be considered artificial.
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 2: It's digital intelligence.
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 1: Well, keep the A because you can't, but don't change,
• 2:26:41
  the A could be assisted, accumulated, depending on the situation.
• 2:26:47
  Find the A word that makes it described But you're
• 2:26:54
  doing it. Like, for instance, right now, it's assisting him.
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 1: It's assisting intelligence.
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 2: Artificial sounds cheap.
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you don't want artificial nothing. If you came
• 2:27:07
  to your girl and you proposed to her with some
• 2:27:09
  artificial diamonds, it ain't working. Okay?
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 2: Girls don't even like real diamonds that are man-made. You
• 2:27:17
  know how weird that is? They have a hard time
• 2:27:19
  selling real diamonds that are made in a laboratory.
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 1: I know it's Yeah. Is that a real diamond?
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 2: It's a real diamond.
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's molecularly.
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's a real diamond. Yeah. It's just not created
• 2:27:30
  by the earth over time. It's created in the laboratory.
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 1: So molecularly.
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 2: But if you look at it, it's a real, I mean,
• 2:27:36
  it's not like a fake Ferrari. It's a fucking diamond.
• 2:27:40
  you know what I mean like it doesn't have to
• 2:27:41
  do things like if you if you go to China
• 2:27:44
  and you buy a fake iPhone who knows what the
• 2:27:45
  fuck's in there all kinds of it probably won't work
• 2:27:48
  with Apple won't work with the iTunes store the Apple
• 2:27:51
  store But a diamond is just a fucking rock. They
• 2:27:57
  can take that carbon and compress it and make an
• 2:28:00
  artificial diamond. And the lady's like, no, I don't want it.
• 2:28:04
  I want a real one.
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 1: I'm going to stick with the ladies on that one. Weird.
• 2:28:09
  I'm going to stick with the ladies on it because
• 2:28:11
  I think the value of the diamond is the time
• 2:28:15
  that it took to become existence.
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, diamonds are harvested in a similar way as cobalt.
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, well.
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they call them blood diamonds. Right, right. Yeah,
• 2:28:28
  so if you get a diamond from.
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 1: A lab, there's no blood.
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 2: It's just a machine that's compressing carbon, and it looks beautiful.
• 2:28:36
  And I would– look, obviously I'm not a chick and
• 2:28:39
  I don't own any diamonds. But if I did, I'd
• 2:28:41
  want the lab diamond. I'm like, give me that dope
• 2:28:43
  shit that some scientist figured out how to make.
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 1: Basically, you'll go vegan on the diamonds.
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Because how big can they make them? How big
• 2:28:50
  can they make a lab-grown diamond? And how do they
• 2:28:53
  even tell? Like how do you tell whether or not
• 2:28:56
  a diamond is a lab diamond? Like is there a
• 2:28:59
  way that they can test them? Or is it just
• 2:29:02
  like provenance? Like, you know, based on like it coming
• 2:29:06
  from De Beers or wherever.
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 1: But if there's a way that they could test them.
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 2: Bless you.
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 1: Bless you. If there's a way that they could test them,
• 2:29:15
  then it's not real. Right, right, right.
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 2: Unless there's a way, maybe they're perfect in a way
• 2:29:20
  that doesn't exist in the diamond world. I don't know.
• 2:29:23
  I'm guessing. Completely guessing. Look at the size of that
• 2:29:26
  fucking rock.
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 1: 75 carats. 70, the largest ever grown.
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's a fake, not a fake diamond, a
• 2:29:37
  real diamond made in a lab that's 75 carats. How
• 2:29:41
  much does that bitch cost? 42 carat diamond for $ 88, 000.
• 2:29:48
  Is that real? Is that how much it costs? That's
• 2:29:52
  how much it costs?
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 1: That's nothing.
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be buying it from this website, brilliantearth.com.
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 2: Jamie, just give them your credit card. Don't worry about it.
• 2:30:01
  That's real. You could tell. Yeah, that might not be real.
• 2:30:06
  That one might not be real. But let's find out
• 2:30:10
  what is a reputable site and how much is a
• 2:30:14
  reputable lab-grown diamond. How much? How much does that cost?
• 2:30:20
  Largest faceted lab-grown, $ 375, 000. $ 375, 000. Do you know how much
• 2:30:25
  money that would cost if that was an actual diamond
• 2:30:27
  from the earth? Yeah. It would probably be $ 100 million.
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 1: Well, that's– How much would that cost?
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 2: Find out how much that would cost if it was
• 2:30:40
  a real– I mean is there even a real diamond
• 2:30:42
  that exists that's that big? But $ 375, 000? The biggest one
• 2:30:46
  weighed 3,100 carats. Whoa.
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 3: When it was found in 1905.
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 1: That's a real one.
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 3: And it was cut into smaller ones.
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 1: Look at that, bro.
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: Holy fuck.
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 1: That's no saying. It took a long time.
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 2: The girl's like, I want that one. Give me that one. Jeez.
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 1: How old? Ask my man, Perplexity. How old is that diamond?
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. It has to be millions and billions
• 2:31:19
  of years old.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 1: Let's see.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 2: What does it say here? Does it say the age
• 2:31:24
  of it? That's nuts. 1.18 billion years old.
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 3: When it reached the surface.
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying? Now, how are you going
• 2:31:38
  to replicate that? You can if you think so.
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 2: With a machine.
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 1: You said with a machine.
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's better. So, like, if you buy a lab-grown
• 2:31:47
  diamond versus a diamond that came from the earth, how
• 2:31:50
  can they tell the difference? Find that out. Can you discern?
• 2:31:55
  Put this into perplexity. How do you discern between a
• 2:31:58
  lab-grown diamond and a diamond that came from the earth?
• 2:32:04
  Whether or not, how do you discern? Make a girl
• 2:32:06
  smell it to get up on a tumbling. I don't
• 2:32:11
  smell blood.
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, men can't tell, but women can.
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 2: Their hair on the back of their neck sticks out.
• 2:32:18
  I don't like it. Seems fake.
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 3: It says you can't.
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 1: It says you can't?
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, specialized scanners, which almost means... Hold on.
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 1: Let me read that to the audience.
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 2: It says... Visual appearance is the same. Lab-grown and natural
• 2:32:33
  diamonds have the same sparkle, hardness, and basic optical properties,
• 2:32:36
  so they look identical in jewelry. Naked eye tests don't work.
• 2:32:40
  Standard home tricks, fog test, scratch test, only distinguish diamond
• 2:32:44
  from non-diamond, not lab versus natural. Standard diamond testers don't help.
• 2:32:50
  Thermal electric testers will say diamond for both lab-grown and
• 2:32:54
  natural stones because their physical properties are essentially the same.
• 2:32:58
  In other words, you cannot reliably discern the origin on
• 2:33:02
  your own just by looking at it or using a
• 2:33:04
  simple tester. A jeweler, how do they do it? Let's see.
• 2:33:08
  What does it say here?
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 3: Literally, it seems like they write the word lab-grown that
• 2:33:12
  you can see under a microscope or something.
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 1: Why would you inscribe it?
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 2: Because you're an asshole.
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 1: Okay. Inclusions of growth features.
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 3: If you make better, if you're like the best at it,
• 2:33:27
  if you're the Rolex of making lab-grown diamonds so people
• 2:33:29
  can't copy yours, maybe.
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 2: Well, no, no.
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 1: Here goes something that's interesting. It says lab-grown HP, HT,
• 2:33:38
  and CBD diamonds can show characteristic of metallic inclusions and
• 2:33:42
  geometric patterns or growth striations that differ from For most
• 2:33:46
  natural diamonds.
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 2: But this is subtle and not always present.
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 1: But there's a chance to dance, right?
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a chance. Natural diamonds tend to have more
• 2:33:53
  irregular geologic-looking inclusions. Fluorescence patterns under UV. Differences in how
• 2:34:01
  the stone fluoresces under shortwave and longwave UV light can
• 2:34:06
  hint at lab-grown versus natural, but interpretation requires training and comparison. Okay.
• 2:34:11
  Those are hints. That's interesting. But it says hints, not guarantees.
• 2:34:14
  And many stones look ambiguous without proper instruments.
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 1: Okay. So she got to be, she got to complain
• 2:34:22
  at the end of the day, right?
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 2: She's got to bring it to a university.
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 2: That's this. Yes.
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 1: Because she has to be, she's dissatisfied. She has to,
• 2:34:29
  she really has to complain.
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting though that it's the same thing, but.
• 2:34:36
  Some women want it to be from the earth and
• 2:34:39
  not from a lab, even though it's the same thing.
• 2:34:42
  It's like if they could make you a banana and
• 2:34:45
  it tasted like a banana, it had all the vitamins
• 2:34:48
  of a banana, it looked like a banana, but it
• 2:34:51
  wasn't grown on a banana tree. It just came out
• 2:34:53
  of a banana lab. Would you be upset if somebody
• 2:34:56
  gave you the fake banana if it's exactly the same?
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 2: Weird. Well, bananas aren't– there's no status attached to a banana. Right, exactly.
• 2:35:07
  It's just a food that we eat.
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What about GMO? Aren't we anti-GMO?
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but is it genetically modified if it's just a
• 2:35:15
  replica of a banana? I mean, a banana is probably
• 2:35:19
  a bad thing because you're putting it in your body.
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 2: But if it's something that is a.
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 1: Here's a good one.
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 1: Faux fur versus a real fur.
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 1: Why would you complain if I came home– with a
• 2:35:34
  faux mink.
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 2: Because some women want the actual animal to die so
• 2:35:39
  they can wear it. I want something to suffer in
• 2:35:43
  the snow in a trap around its neck.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 2: It's weird.
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 1: What movie was that? The Revenant, right?
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 1: That was good.
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 2: That was crazy. Leonardo.
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was good because it also let us understand.
• 2:35:58
  I love the idea that there was a business. Sadly,
• 2:36:05
  a motherfucker's going looking for animals to kill to bring
• 2:36:08
  back and make a jacket.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, still is.
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 1: Still is.
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 2: Still is. You know, there's a company in China that
• 2:36:16
  makes Rolexes exact to a real Rolex, but it's not
• 2:36:21
  a real Rolex. Because of 3D printing now, they can
• 2:36:27
  scan every individual part. So they buy a Rolex and
• 2:36:32
  then recreate exactly to the same type of steel that
• 2:36:37
  they used, the same quartz for the whatever the fuck
• 2:36:43
  is the term?
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 1: The face, the bend.
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 2: What is the term I'm looking for? The lens? It's
• 2:36:47
  not the lens. What is it called? Bezel?
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 2: The glass part that's in the front.
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 1: God, how can I forget that? Is it called the face? No.
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 2: I forget what it's called. It's one of those brain
• 2:36:59
  farts where my brain is just not remembering anything. What
• 2:37:02
  it means.
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 3: The watch crystals, I'll say.
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 2: The crystal. That's it. Just the crystal. Jesus. But they
• 2:37:09
  take it and they recreate everything with the exact same materials,
• 2:37:12
  but it's like 500 bucks as opposed to 11,000. Right.
• 2:37:17
  But it is exact. Like you bring it to a
• 2:37:20
  watch person and it'll take them hours to figure out
• 2:37:24
  whether or not this is an actual Rolex or not.
• 2:37:26
  They have to use microscopes. They have to get up
• 2:37:28
  in there and look at it. the finish and the
• 2:37:30
  way the hands are made. They're getting better and better
• 2:37:33
  and better at it.
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 1: Would you wear it?
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would wear it. I mean, I wouldn't because
• 2:37:38
  I have a real one. But if I didn't have
• 2:37:40
  a real one, I would wear it.
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 1: You know who has a fake one?
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 2: Usyk, the heavyweight champion of the world. Alexander Usyk wears
• 2:37:47
  a fake Rolex. It's hilarious. You know what?
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 1: That's my big question. Like we were just talking about
• 2:37:54
  the AI or talking about whatever it is. I think
• 2:37:57
  anything is good until the real thing shows up. I
• 2:38:01
  think when the real thing shows up, it's going to
• 2:38:04
  be real. And it's something about the real thing, whatever
• 2:38:07
  that is, whatever that thing is, that's just like it
• 2:38:10
  ain't going to never not be real.
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 2: Right. You know what I mean? Well, there's something about
• 2:38:14
  like a real Rolex. It comes from the company Rolex.
• 2:38:17
  It's been making watches for 100 years, and they figured
• 2:38:22
  out the technology. They figured out how to– because these–
• 2:38:25
  like a Rolex is an automatic watch. So it's got–
• 2:38:29
  it's moving on– like this is an Omega, and this
• 2:38:32
  watch is automatic too. So this is moving on. It's
• 2:38:35
  working on my movement. So my movement winds it. So
• 2:38:40
  every time I move my arm, it winds it up
• 2:38:42
  in the second hand. And it's incredibly precise, accurate within
• 2:38:46
  a couple seconds a day. And somebody had to figure
• 2:38:49
  that out. And they figured it out a long fucking
• 2:38:53
  time ago. These guys figured out how to make the
• 2:38:55
  perfect amount of spring tension, these little tiny gears that
• 2:38:59
  move around in there.
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 1: And how long does it last?
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 2: How long would it stay charged for?
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, I don't have too much. I do got
• 2:39:09
  a couple of Rolexes, but I don't know. As you see,
• 2:39:11
  I don't have a lot.
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. They'll last for decades and decades.
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, you could buy, there's a place called Bob's
• 2:39:17
  Watches online. You could buy like a 1967 Rolex. Okay.
• 2:39:21
  And it still works perfectly. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they
• 2:39:25
  last forever. And sometimes they need service and all that
• 2:39:28
  means is like they need to clean them out and
• 2:39:30
  maybe they replace a spring or some shit. Right. But
• 2:39:32
  then it's back to work.
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 1: I seen one in, well, for the ones that's making
• 2:39:36
  in China, you know what I mean? That's, you know,
• 2:39:39
  and the guys.
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 2: They're called super clones.
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the super cloners. And you can't afford a real
• 2:39:44
  one and you want to be cool with a fake one.
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 2: Baller on a budget.
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 1: Baller on a budget. We're not knocking that. But I
• 2:39:49
  saw one that my wife wanted. She didn't get it.
• 2:39:52
  I told her to get it, but she thought she'd
• 2:39:55
  get it somewhere else. In Brussels, right? They had, have
• 2:40:00
  you ever seen an orange Rolex? No. Exactly, bro. They
• 2:40:04
  had it on display for sale. And she never seen
• 2:40:07
  it either. I'm not into watches, but she's kind of
• 2:40:09
  getting there into it. And we was kind of moving
• 2:40:12
  fast and shit. And she was like, you know, she
• 2:40:15
  saw it and she wanted it. I said, well, go
• 2:40:17
  ahead and get it. I'll wait. She said, no, I'll
• 2:40:20
  get it somewhere else. You can't get it nowhere else.
• 2:40:24
  You only could get it from that one location in Brussels.
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, so Rolex makes it specifically just for them? Yeah. Well,
• 2:40:31
  there's some companies that customize watches that you could buy
• 2:40:36
  where they take a regular Rolex and they customize it.
• 2:40:39
  And the problem with that is even though it's expensive,
• 2:40:42
  it's not worth as much to some people because they've
• 2:40:46
  altered it. Right.
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 1: This is not altered, though.
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, it comes only from Rolex.
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 1: Only from Rolex. And they only sell it there. Oh, wow.
• 2:40:53
  You know what I mean? See if you can.
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 2: Find that one. People love exclusivity. Hall of Time in Brussels.
• 2:41:01
  Rolex Explorer II, the primary model, featuring a single bright
• 2:41:05
  orange 24-hour hand. Often found at authorized dealers like Hall
• 2:41:10
  of Time in Brussels.
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 1: So I got to take it all the way back
• 2:41:15
  to Brussels to get it.
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's so pretty, though.
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know which one.
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 2: I bet you could buy it online. If you buy
• 2:41:20
  it online, you probably have to pay a premium. Look
• 2:41:23
  at that.
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 1: $ 11, 000.
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 2: You could buy it online.
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 1: $ 11, 000.
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 2: $ 210, 000.
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 1: That's even more likely right there.
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 2: $ 210, 000.
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe I won't be going back to Brussels.
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 2: It's just crazy how much cheaper those super clones are
• 2:41:39
  that look exactly the same.
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 1: I bet you after this podcast, a super clone is
• 2:41:43
  going to say, he's going to make those now.
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 2: See if you can find one of those super clone
• 2:41:50
  sites from China. Because what they're doing is just taking
• 2:41:53
  advantage of the fact that everybody wants these status symbols.
• 2:41:56
  And that's what a lot of it is. So here
• 2:41:59
  it is. What is this company called? Superluxuryreps.com. Let's go
• 2:42:09
  with the– scroll up a little bit, please. Right there.
• 2:42:11
  The Daytona. That's the classic. Black dial Daytona. That's– ooh,
• 2:42:16
  look at that blue one right there to the right.
• 2:42:18
  The one– yeah. Click on that. $ 1, 600. Sounds about right. Yeah. Boy,
• 2:42:24
  that would be so much more money.
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 1: Look how pretty that is.
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 2: That looks perfect. So no one would ever know. So
• 2:42:32
  for $ 1, 600, no one is ever going to fucking know.
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 3: There's a pretty good chance that's a picture of a
• 2:42:37
  real one too.
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 2: Good point. Good point. Damn, Jamie's taking levels ahead. I
• 2:42:43
  like that. I like that. That's true. They might be
• 2:42:45
  fucking with you. Yeah, when you get it home, it
• 2:42:47
  ain't like it was in the picture.
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 1: The Whopper is not the size it is on the commercial.
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 2: That looks so good, though.
• 2:42:53
  Speaker 3: It's a sticker.
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, so luxury, super luxury reps. Let's put this into
• 2:43:01
  a search. Super luxury reps reviews.
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 2: See, how good are the watches from Super Luxury Reps?
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 1: That's a fake one? That's crazy.
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look at that. Super clone Datejust 36 millimeter floral dial.
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 1: $ 1, 000.
• 2:43:20
  Speaker 2: Trustpilot.
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 1: It's all good.
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 2: It's fine. Oh, Trustpilot.
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 1: That's a good guy.
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. They just stuck that on there.
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 1: They stuck that.
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on. This is in China. WhatsApp us. Yeah,
• 2:43:30
  this is in China. Video proof.
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 3: You always need video proof on every website.
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 2: Show me video proof.
• 2:43:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, how about... Okay.
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 2: Go to Richard Millet because those watches are like a
• 2:43:40
  million bucks.
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 3: Video proof of one right here.
• 2:43:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, video proof. Show me the video proof.
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 3: Someone's opening it on a vertical screen.
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, so they're getting very close to it.
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 3: I guess maybe they're trying to show the microscope.
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:43:51
  Speaker 2: So you're seeing all the action and all the movement.
• 2:43:54
  So Richard Millet watch. Click on those, please, because... That's
• 2:43:59
  like a million dollar watch. Those watches are insanely expensive.
• 2:44:03
  How much do they cost? $ 1, 600 or so. $ 1, 400. So $ 1, 400
• 2:44:10
  or half a million.
• 2:44:12
  Speaker 1: You know what I just learned from watching that thing, though?
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 2: What?
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 1: The other one you had with the moving gears, it
• 2:44:17
  reminded me of the quantum computer.
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. My brain is bugged out.
• 2:44:24
  Speaker 2: Those things are weird.
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 1: But I saw.
• 2:44:29
  The science of a quantum computer there. Right.
• 2:44:31
  Speaker 2: All that stuff moving. Yeah, because it takes. All those gears.
• 2:44:34
  Speaker 1: It takes that.
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 2: Well, the quantum computers are so crazy because all that
• 2:44:37
  shit is all cooling. And the actual computer is like
• 2:44:40
  the size of a Triscuit.
• 2:44:42
  Speaker 1: Right. You think about the human heart, right? It's doing
• 2:44:48
  a lot of fucking work.
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 2:44:50
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 2: And it's not really a pump.
• 2:44:54
  Speaker 1: That's what they're saying now.
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a cycle.
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 1: It's like a vortex.
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 2: A vortex, yeah.
• 2:44:59
  Speaker 1: I used to think it was a pump. But it
• 2:45:02
  makes sense, right? The quantum computer, the brain, all these things,
• 2:45:07
  it's almost like our biology is teaching. Science is now
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  catching up to the science of our biology and now
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  finding a way to mechanically emulate our biology.
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  Speaker 2: So what superluxuryreps.com is? They sell, Perplexity says they sell
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  super-cloned luxury watches, emphasizing that their pieces mirror the design, weight,
• 2:45:29
  and performance of genuine models. They present themselves as a
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  premium alternative to cheap replicas, focusing on workmanship, durability. We
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  just did an ad for these people. We basically just
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  gave them an ad. I guarantee you some.
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  Speaker 3: Fakers are going to go there. You're not thinking you're
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  buying the real thing here, and you shouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: That's just a note.
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  Speaker 2: But the thing is, it's like it mirrors the performance.
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  It looks exactly the same. That's my point. It's like
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  why does a Rolex cost that much money then? If
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  they can make it for $ 1, 400, why is it– like
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  how much does a Daytona cost if you bought it retail?
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  Like what is a Rolex– let's take a guess. I
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  got to imagine it's $ 15, 000. I got to imagine it's
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  at least 10 times more. What does a Rolex Daytona cost?
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  Speaker 1: So you're saying that the material is all the same.
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  But they're stealing the idea.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they're stealing everything. They're stealing the design, the idea.
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  Speaker 1: So when you're paying the $ 15, 000, you're paying for the idea,
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  the design, and everything, not just the material.
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  Speaker 2: So $ 30, 000. So it's more than $ 10, 000. Look at that. Yeah.
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  So that black one, the black-faced one, is exactly like
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  the one that they had there. White. That's pretty.
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  But you can sell that, though. The thing is that
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  comes with paperwork, and you can sell it probably for
• 2:46:53
  even more than $ 30 afterwards. That's the difference.
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  Speaker 1: That's the difference, right?
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It can appreciate and not depreciate.
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  Speaker 2: And it has serial numbers and paperwork and all that.
• 2:47:02
  It's an actual investment.
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 1: I want to take a moment. Once again, this is
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  the RZA on the Joe Rogan Experience. You like when
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  I do this? Yes, please. Okay, thanks. This is the
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  RZA on the Joe Rogan Experience. I have a new
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  film coming out May 1st in theaters. It's called One
• 2:47:17
  Spoon of Chocolate. Quentin Tarantino presented. The RZA's One Spoon
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  of Chocolate in theaters everywhere May 1st. It follows the
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  story of an ex-military convict trying to find a better
• 2:47:29
  way in life. Ends up in a small town and
• 2:47:32
  shit goes bananas.
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 2: Chaos ensues.
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 1: Dun, dun, dun. Action-packed. Bone-shattering.
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  Speaker 2: And available in streaming in maybe a month or so.
• 2:47:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe a month or so. Maybe 45 days.
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  Speaker 2: Go see it in the movie theaters.
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  Speaker 1: Go see it in the movie theaters. And you know what?
• 2:47:50
  Go to the theaters, yo. You know how come? Because,
• 2:47:53
  tell me if you agree with this. I don't care
• 2:47:55
  where you get popcorn from anywhere else. I like Disneyland.
• 2:47:59
  I like the amusement parks. But no popcorn touches movie
• 2:48:03
  theater popcorn.
• 2:48:04
  Speaker 2: They know what they're doing.
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 1: They got something going on there.
• 2:48:06
  Speaker 2: But whatever that butter is, what is that shit? That stuff,
• 2:48:10
  when you go to the machine, you press the button.
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know what that is.
• 2:48:12
  Speaker 2: What's in there?
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's vegan.
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 2: It can't be good for you. It can't be good.
• 2:48:16
  It can't be good for you.
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 1: Well, at the Alamo Draft House, they use real butter.
• 2:48:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, they use real butter.
• 2:48:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Alamo Draft House. You ever been to Sinopolis?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:48:24
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 2: Sinopolis is awesome. That's a joint, right? Oh, they have
• 2:48:27
  everything there. Is that a date night? Yeah, man. Beautiful seats.
• 2:48:31
  You can, like, lean back. Yeah. They have waiters and waitresses.
• 2:48:35
  Speaker 1: Do you and the wife like going to see movies?
• 2:48:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 2:48:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:48:38
  Speaker 1: What's your favorite theater?
• 2:48:40
  Speaker 2: I love Sinopolis. That's my favorite. Yeah. That's the place.
• 2:48:44
  Because the seats are the best. They recline. They're perfect.
• 2:48:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:48:48
  Speaker 2: They know what they're doing. Plus, it costs a little
• 2:48:50
  bit more to go there. So, like, no one's on
• 2:48:52
  their phone making noises. People aren't talking. You know what
• 2:48:56
  I mean?
• 2:48:57
  Speaker 1: I agree. And the crazy thing I will say, though,
• 2:48:59
  Sinopolis is my favorite theater as well for a date
• 2:49:02
  night with my wife. But I strongly believe, that's from
• 2:49:07
  my experience, that it was the Alamo Draft House that
• 2:49:10
  pioneered that whole concept.
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Of food.
• 2:49:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, bro.
• 2:49:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:49:15
  Speaker 1: I remember coming out here, I don't know, it might
• 2:49:18
  have been 2004 or something. Like, it was just one
• 2:49:20
  Alamo Draft House, I think. God's had it on.
• 2:49:22
  Speaker 2: On 6th Street.
• 2:49:23
  Speaker 1: On 6th Street.
• 2:49:24
  Speaker 2: That's my building now. That's your building now, bro? That's
• 2:49:26
  the mothership. Yeah.
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:49:28
  Speaker 2: I bought that place. That's the Ritz.
• 2:49:29
  Speaker 1: Bro, that's my school, bro.
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the Ritz.
• 2:49:33
  Speaker 1: I'm saying that's why I used to come down to
• 2:49:35
  the QT. I mean, that's my film college. Yeah. I've
• 2:49:39
  seen so many movies there. I've seen about six movies
• 2:49:43
  in one day.
• 2:49:44
  Speaker 2: Tarantino screened Death Proof there. Yeah.
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 2: They had so many movies out of that place. That
• 2:49:49
  place was everything, man. It used to be a rock
• 2:49:51
  and roll club. It was at one point in time,
• 2:49:53
  it was a pool hall. Right. Right. It's been a
• 2:49:55
  bunch of different things.
• 2:49:56
  Speaker 1: Well, you own my college now.
• 2:49:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a dope spot, too. It's a perfect place.
• 2:50:00
  And we still have the original marquee because it's all
• 2:50:04
  the historical society. So it's a building from 1927. You
• 2:50:08
  got fried pickles in there? We don't sell food. No food.
• 2:50:11
  Speaker 1: No food.
• 2:50:12
  Speaker 2: We're a comedy club. There's food next door. There's a
• 2:50:14
  pizza joint on one side, a Mexican joint on the
• 2:50:17
  other side. Just plenty of food. You don't want to
• 2:50:18
  be eaten while you're laughing. We have one thing. We
• 2:50:22
  sell jokes. Nice. Jokes and drinks.
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 1: That's it. I got to pop in and who's your
• 2:50:30
  next guest?
• 2:50:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, we always– I mean I do shows there every
• 2:50:34
  Tuesday and Wednesday and every weekend we have national headliners
• 2:50:37
  that are there. I don't even know who's there this weekend.
• 2:50:40
  Who's there this weekend, Johnny? But it's set up with
• 2:50:45
  two rooms. just like the Alamo was there was two
• 2:50:47
  theaters there so we have two rooms we have a
• 2:50:49
  small room the seats like 110 people nice and then
• 2:50:52
  the big room it's like 250 people nice nice and
• 2:50:54
  it's set up perfect we had it all like the
• 2:50:56
  ceilings lowered and everything tightened up and.
• 2:51:00
  Speaker 1: Set up the mothership.
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 2: Comedy mothership Rich Voss Rich Voss my boy my boy
• 2:51:06
  Rich he's awesome uh the RZA I'm glad we did
• 2:51:09
  it this time without Donnell sorry Donnell I love you
• 2:51:12
  to death but it was better without you better without
• 2:51:15
  you and I'm sorry I'm sorry Indian gave you.
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah I got something coming to you kid.
• 2:51:23
  Speaker 2: A spoonful of chocolate out everywhere everywhere May 1st May
• 2:51:28
  1st all movie theaters see it in the movie theater
• 2:51:30
  first that's definitely where you want to see it you
• 2:51:33
  want to have that experience with a bunch of other
• 2:51:34
  people and thank you brother it was always good to
• 2:51:37
  see you and Wu-Tang forever
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 1: Wu-Tang forever Rock and Roll Hall of Fame bong bong
• 2:51:41
  here we come here we go alright bye everybody