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Knicks Are NBA Champs, Jalen Brunson's Underdog Story, Aldon Smith Remembered & Which NFL Franchises NEED a Super Bowl Most? · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on? My people? How are
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecoff Three and Now Podcast. Congratulations of
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson the New York Knicks. Uh, congratulations as a
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  Speaker 1: soccer guy, because he's been telling me this is our year.
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  Speaker 1: We're good John. He might be right. He might be right.
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  Speaker 1: So I did want it Jalen Brunston and Victor Weber Yama.
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  Speaker 1: Compared to some NFL stuff, the World Cup game was
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  Speaker 1: pretty incredible. I mean that was not a huge soccer guy,
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  Speaker 1: but that was that was fun. Some sad news in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, and I wanted to I wanted to make
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  Speaker 1: a little list of my five teams that because the
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  Speaker 1: impact and the reaction to the Knicks, the drought, the
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  Speaker 1: passion their fan base, what it would look like in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. So I found five teams that I think
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  Speaker 1: I want to do a little ranking of teams that
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  Speaker 1: would just elicit that emotional response of just over the years,
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  Speaker 1: such let down and futility to we sting a trophy.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that at the end. But other
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  Speaker 1: than that, you guys know the drill. If you listen
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  Speaker 1: on Collins Feed, make sure you subscribe three and out
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  Speaker 1: Its own feed. We're we're up on Netflix, so you
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  Speaker 1: can check that out as well, and let's dive in.
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  Speaker 1: But I did want to start with I actually think
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  Speaker 1: the most relatable the crazy thing is like the New
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  Speaker 1: York Knicks. Their franchise relative to pro sports is not
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  Speaker 1: that relatable. They have an enormous fan base in a
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  Speaker 1: day and age, specifically in basketball and baseball, where their
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  Speaker 1: television revenue is not like the NFL where everyone is
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  Speaker 1: under this umbrella of taking in these huge media deals
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  Speaker 1: because they all share it. In the NBA, you have
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  Speaker 1: these local rights. Nicks run faced, massive market owner, super rich. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: everyone told me the guy was the village idiot. He
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  Speaker 1: does the sphere, which I've never been, but everyone I
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  Speaker 1: know that has been say it's like a religious experience
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  Speaker 1: going you check out the stock price and the thing that
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  Speaker 1: guy's involved with their skyrocketing. So James Dolan's on fire now.
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  Speaker 1: And we talk a lot in football how an owner,
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  Speaker 1: and it starts at the top. Whatever he's done. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: things are going well for James Dolan. There's no disputing that.
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  Speaker 1: With the people he's hiring. Some of the moves they've
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  Speaker 1: made in Vegas, which I read recently that's gonna spawn
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  Speaker 1: throughout the country, the sphere. I need to go sooner
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  Speaker 1: or later. But I would say one of the most
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  Speaker 1: relatable things to most human beings, the overwhelming majority, is
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  Speaker 1: being somewhat of an underdog, being told yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you're quite good enough. Yeah, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: you can get that done. Most of us are going
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  Speaker 1: to there's a difference between adversity and like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know about this. I don't know about this guy.
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  Speaker 1: And most of us at one point in time in
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  Speaker 1: our life professionally have been told yeah, this might not
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  Speaker 1: be the you know, the right role for you. This
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  Speaker 1: might not be the right job for you. Yeah, we're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna do business with you because of X, Y
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  Speaker 1: and Z. Obviously personally and in your personal relationships dating,
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  Speaker 1: most human beings at one point in time, unless you
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  Speaker 1: marry your like high school sweetheart, are gonna be told no.
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  Speaker 1: And those are the type feelings and emotions. You know.
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  Speaker 1: What's funny is as you get older, what you get
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  Speaker 1: in your forties, some memories in your life fade, and
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  Speaker 1: you could argue even disappear. And there are music or
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  Speaker 1: things in life that can trigger thoughts in your head.
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  Speaker 1: But sometimes I think back, like did I used to
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  Speaker 1: think about this thing a lot? And now I no
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  Speaker 1: longer think about it. But there are certain moments in
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  Speaker 1: your life that you never forget until you're dying days.
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  Speaker 1: And Jalen Brunson has this chip on his shoulder of
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  Speaker 1: being told you're too small, and you know, in the NBA,
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  Speaker 1: unlike the NFL, when you're drafted pick thirty three, if
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  Speaker 1: you're drafted thirty third in the NFL, you're a fucking baller.
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  Speaker 1: That team that just took you thirty three, you know
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  Speaker 1: has dreams of you becoming a Pro Bowl player. The
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  Speaker 1: amount of guys that have been drafted in that slot
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  Speaker 1: of like thirty three to thirty eight that have become
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  Speaker 1: impact players just over the last like ten years in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL let alone historically is really really high. Some
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  Speaker 1: gms would say that is the sweet spot because we
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  Speaker 1: don't have thirty two first round draft picks granted on
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  Speaker 1: our draft board, and we get a guy thirty three,
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  Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty five, and we don't have to
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  Speaker 1: pay first round rates. We get them a second round contract,
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  Speaker 1: and Jalen Brunson, we should debate this a lot when
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  Speaker 1: I worked in personnel. It's still a debate in talk
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  Speaker 1: radio in personnel departments. What does being a winner mean? Like,
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  Speaker 1: just because you were a winner before the pros, does
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  Speaker 1: that guarantee that you're going to be a winner in
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  Speaker 1: the pros, in the NFL, in the NBA, in the
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  Speaker 1: NHL wherever. No, it does not. It simply does not.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Tim Tebow is one of the greatest college
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  Speaker 1: players that will ever play the sport. He was not
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  Speaker 1: good in the pros. John Elway couldn't move off him
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  Speaker 1: quick enough, and the guy just won a playoff game.
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  Speaker 1: There's no shot of tea ba. I have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of respect for him, but he wasn't an NFL quarterback
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  Speaker 1: because you do have to have certain characteristics to be
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  Speaker 1: viewed as a good NFL prospect. But sometimes when you
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  Speaker 1: don't have the characteristics, And for Jalen Brunson, it's simply height.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, well, he's not a great athlete. Well, when
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  Speaker 1: we're there six to one, you're not gonna play above
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  Speaker 1: the rim. Looks pretty athletic to me. But I think
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  Speaker 1: it's fair to say that he hangs his head on
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  Speaker 1: Obviously skill, but toughness, will just guile, just having khonus
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  Speaker 1: and worked on his craft over the course of his life.
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  Speaker 1: But he was the best player on a dominant college
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  Speaker 1: team where he had already won a national championship in
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  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. He won another one in twenty eighteen. Player
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  Speaker 1: of the Year consens it's all American, And I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking about football because football and basketball have this alike.
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  Speaker 1: What can really separate guys are the things that you
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  Speaker 1: can't measure. Your drive, your desire, your focus, your heart.
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  Speaker 1: And when I think about the greatest players that I've
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  Speaker 1: watched as just a sports fan, I would say, what
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  Speaker 1: really separated them? Like, obviously they had Michael Jordan was
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  Speaker 1: incredibly skilled. The Michael that I kind of remember mid
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  Speaker 1: nineties or late nineties was no longer like the greatest
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  Speaker 1: athlete in the world. You know, you go back to
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: YouTube Michael Jordan, like nineteen eighty eight, You're like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever seen anything quite like that.
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  Speaker 1: The Michael I remembered was much more. His skill was special,
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  Speaker 1: but what really separated him was his mentality is competitiveness
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  Speaker 1: in his drive to win. Obviously, that's a defining characteristic
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  Speaker 1: for guys like Tom Brady and Tiger Woods, and you're
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  Speaker 1: watching Jalen Brunson. What he lacks in height because relative
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  Speaker 1: to the NBA he would be considered very short. He
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  Speaker 1: makes up for the intangible stuff now, just because you
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  Speaker 1: have that. If you don't have the skill, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: But like you look back, clearly he was a catalyst
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  Speaker 1: for a program when I lived in Philadelphia. I vividly
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  Speaker 1: remember one off season, you know, right around the tournament.
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  Speaker 1: Villanova's right down the road. One of our guys in
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  Speaker 1: our department, Mike Bradway, who is now Veitch's number two
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  Speaker 1: guy in Kansas City, played football at Villanova. He's actually
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  Speaker 1: a Kansas fan, but like Andy Reid, was buddies with
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  Speaker 1: Jay Wright. We used to have the tournament on, you know,
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  Speaker 1: during the draft free agency time of year, when you know,
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  Speaker 1: Thursday Friday was not much going on. All the games
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  Speaker 1: are on. Every office has a TV. And I vividly remember,
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember it was the first or second round.
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  Speaker 1: It it was probably Thursday of Friday. Villanova was like
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  Speaker 1: a top two or three seats lost in the first round,
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  Speaker 1: and there was a period of time whereas like Jay
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  Speaker 1: Wright can't get it done until that fucker showed up
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  Speaker 1: and they won two and three years and by his
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  Speaker 1: third year, the year that they were just I mean,
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  Speaker 1: kind of cemented the legacy of the program. Google who
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  Speaker 1: their best player was. And I think it happened sometimes
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  Speaker 1: in football because I was thinking about this, like, these
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  Speaker 1: guys aren't as good as as you know as Jalen Brunson.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen Brunton is clearly one of the best
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  Speaker 1: players in the league and one of the most dominant
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  Speaker 1: short players in the history of the NBA at offense
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  Speaker 1: and at offense that also wins. Like I've been watching
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  Speaker 1: basketball enough, there's been a lot of great, small, little
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  Speaker 1: offensive players. I wouldn't call them winning basketball players. Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Brunson's a winning basketball player. He's actually been Sins High
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: school where we want to state championship. But I was
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: thinking about football and quarterback. Think about Dak Prescott, who
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  Speaker 1: went in the fourth round. If you google some of
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  Speaker 1: his stats at Mississippi State and just relative to the SEC,
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  Speaker 1: he is one of the more heralded SEC quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 1: the history of the conference. At one point in time
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  Speaker 1: during his college career, he took Mississippi State, not exactly Alabama,
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  Speaker 1: Georgia or LSU. They were number one in the country.
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  Speaker 1: This is no shade. Program's kind of a fucking joke,
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  Speaker 1: especially relative to the conference. They got no shot and
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  Speaker 1: back then they had divisions, So you gotta play LSU,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta play Alabama. Not easy, and Dak Prescott had
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  Speaker 1: them right there in the mix. It's one of the
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  Speaker 1: best teams in the country. Shouldn't be the case, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and he did that. Brock perty went to Iowa State,
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  Speaker 1: and Matt Campbell has said this changed the course of
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  Speaker 1: the program. But what did Dak Prescott? You know, I
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: threw it a little funny. You know, he's not he's soggie, six',
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  Speaker 1: five he's six', to two more of an athlete than.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: A player brock, too short not. Good enough who's he?
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  Speaker 1: Actually playing i'm not saying, either Guys But, jalen brunson
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  Speaker 1: they're clearly not but Both Got dak prescott's gonna Be
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: The dallas cowboys starter for. Fifteen Years brock purdy at
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: minimum is going to be a decade long starter for
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: the forty. Nine ERS and i think Sometimes Like tim
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: tebow WAS an, Nfl quarterback josh McDaniels thought. He was
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: Turns out josh McDaniels has no clue what he's doing
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  Speaker 1: when he's a, head coach, good coordinator, head coach. Stay
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  Speaker 1: away so just because you win in COLLEGE to, a
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  Speaker 1: one wouldn't have drafted. THEM five i said it at,
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  Speaker 1: the TIME like i don't really, see it and he,
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: Was INJURED BUT i i do think with football there
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: is an intangible aspect. To players you're, acquiring PEOPLE and
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: i think this goes for. All positions what really separates.
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: These guys and IN, the nba most of the great
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: players are kind. OF freaks, I mean i mean look AROUND.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: The Nba lebron james is one of the biggest freaks
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: in the history of. The league but who was his
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: contemporary over the course of the majority of. His career
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: You Know, steph curry who was six, foot three who
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: his father's. Alma, mater, so yeah we're not gonna offer you,
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: a scholarship so we had to Go. To davidson when
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: you're told you're not. Good Enough, TOM brady i mean
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  Speaker 1: fell to the. Sixth round who's crying? About it midway
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: THROUGH his, nfl career after he'd Already Won. Super bowls
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  Speaker 1: you never forget those moments and you carry it. WITH
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: you i still think about the guy that fired me
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: in radio, and listen this is No. Sour gray at
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: THE time i, thought THIS when i DIDN'T think i
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: was gonna. Get fired Biggest buffoon i'd ever. BEEN around
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  Speaker 1: i couldn't believe in my early THIRTIES is i was.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: Really ambitious this IS who i am taking. Directions from,
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  Speaker 1: i'm like this is really what my life is. Right
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: now and then the guy. Fired me and it's not because,
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: YOU know i look BACK and, I go i couldn't prove.
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  Speaker 1: Him right it's not EVEN because i think that he.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: Is right you just never forget that moment that someone looks, at,
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: you yeah you're not quite. Good enough it Happened To
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: jalen brunson IN the nba When the Mavericks And mark
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: cubanan denied all. He, wants yeah we're not gonna pay. You,
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: that okay, You'll see and they did a couple, years
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: Later And jalen brunson wins the Finals Before luke. Everett, did,
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Now ironically luca's not even on that. Team anymore but
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: my point is that when you're evaluating. These guys and
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: this is why the draft IN the nfl isn't exact
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  Speaker 1: science is because you can never measure all the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that really separates. The soul it's no different than in
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: all of. Our businesses who really. Wants it like when
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: you see some of these stories, about, like yeah that
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: guy worked seven days a week for years. On end
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: there's no guarantee there's gonna be. An outcome there is.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: NO guarantee i was just playing with my good buddy
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: yesterday we played golf and he got IN on SpaceX
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: in the, private market and we were just talking and,
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: he's like, you know it's obviously done well for him
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: and he's in the financial world and he's. Crushing it
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: but he, was like, trust me we have. Made deals
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: he's been in that business now for multiple decades in
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: the quote unquote. Private market, he's like where does not go?
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  Speaker 1: That way and the. Money disappears there are no guarantees
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: and there are certain guys that just have it and
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: we can overlook it because of. WHATEVER measurable i think
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  Speaker 1: a good example this year IN, THE nfl i think
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  Speaker 1: most people agreed in this draft, just football just, pure
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: football and when it comes to over the course of,
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  Speaker 1: several years the best couple players in the draft not
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: where they were gonna, get drafted just the best pure
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: football Players Were caleb Downs And. Ruben Bain, caleb downs
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: we had countless guys on his own team get drafted before.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: He DID and i UNDERSTAND why i like The rfl
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: rees pick because his ceiling is sky. Freaking high but
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: we see that, every year this guy's gonna be the.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Best player this guy's ceiling, sky high and then it.
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  Speaker 1: NEVER materializes I love sony. Stops love love would. Be
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Strong carnell tate's a really. Good player but never once
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: over a course of two years when they stepped on,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: the field did Anyone Go carnel tate is a better
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: football player than. The safety, never once well? What, happened
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: well he's just a, little shorter not the. Fastest guy,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: you know it's like he's Not Exactly. Ed reid, you
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: know he's not an athlete Like Fucking dion Sanders Or.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Charles woodson i'll promise you this will look back in.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Ten years is gonna be one of the best players
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: in the league over the course of. His tenure ruben
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: bade his arms are, too short which is a. Real
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: ARGUMENT but i, know this whenever they played a, big
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: game and they played a shitload of them, last year that,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: game ended, you went is that guy's the best player on?
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: The field, was like his arms? Too short what's he? Gonna,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: do yeah it's gonna show up every once in. A
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: WHILE but i would be stunned if that guy is
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: not a big. Impact PLAYER and i think we overthink
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: this stuff even once they get into. The league in
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  Speaker 1: basketball more than football, and football once you established you
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: can play a, little bit your draft status kind of
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: gets thrown out the window if it. Was negative if
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: it was good and you, can't play you survive a little.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Bit longer IN, the Nba the MAVs had. The guy
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: he literally won them a playoff Series when luca, got
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Hurt and, i'm, like yeah, we don't. Don't no what
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: were they calling him last night on the on the
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: podium bring up? THE captain i mean they talked about
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: him like He was Derek, fucking jeter because clearly his
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: intangible impact is equally as big as his, tangible impact which.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: IS massive, i mean the guy Turns Into michael jordan
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: down the stretch of. These games so it was a really,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: EN listen i get sappy have and losing. My dad
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: like the moment with his dad being. On staff it's
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: not like his dad some random guy and his dad
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: played IN. The, nba hell he played For the knicks
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen. Ninety nine but it was just it was
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: a really really. Cool moment and watching this guy who
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: is just it Felt like ben a. Little overlooked even
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  Speaker 1: once he's kind of hit. A stride, it's like how good?
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  Speaker 1: REALLY is, i mean a couple of, years ago, it's
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: like can you really do It With jalen brunston as a?
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  Speaker 1: Number one the answer, is yes we know that now for.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: A fact and on the, FLIP side i said this
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  Speaker 1: a couple of, weeks Ago and i'm not trying to
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  Speaker 1: just like shit on. The Guy and i'm not even,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: trying to, you know hang a left when everyone's. HANGING
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: right I just i couldn't believe Everyone Going victor wenbinyama's
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  Speaker 1: got a chance to be the best player of? All
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  Speaker 1: time in what world can we? Say that, you know
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  Speaker 1: the Chances That victor wenbinyama's ever better than anyone in
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  Speaker 1: the top ten right now IN the nba is slim.
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  Speaker 1: To none the Chances That victor wenbinyama is considered a top.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Twenty player we got, a long long way. To go and, You,
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  Speaker 1: Know shack i'm a Sucker. FOR shack i grew up.
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  Speaker 1: On him, you know, He said victor's gotta get in
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: the weight room and. Get stronger i'll Never Forget Rip.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Howard mudd he thought that your play strength on tape
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  Speaker 1: as an, offensive lineman you could get stronger in the
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: weight room with, you know specific weights like your bench press.
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  Speaker 1: Or squat those things can rise over the course of
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: your career in, professional football but your actual functional strength
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  Speaker 1: on the field never changes. That MUCH what i see at,
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  Speaker 1: twenty one twenty two, years old it's gonna look very
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  Speaker 1: similar at thirty. Years old AND when i see this
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: guy's gotta get in the weight room and, Get stronger, it's,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: like guys we have a long anyone been. Watching basketball
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: over the course of the last three, four decades we
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: have seen several guys with his type, body type that
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: skinny bean pole. Type look they typically five, years later
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: don't all of a sudden Look like. Alonzo morning not
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: the way. It works i've been around the highest level
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  Speaker 1: athlete for a. Long Time and i've just. Watched basketball
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: if We think, victor now maybe he gets a, little
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: stronger but he's never gonna look that. Much different his
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: frame is kind of his frame chet the guy in which.
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  Speaker 1: He owns those guys are gonna look like that the
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  Speaker 1: majority of. Their career remember when people Laughed A kevin
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  Speaker 1: durant because he couldn't bench what was like one, Thirty
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: five like he's gotta get in the weight room over
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the course of his career to. Get Stronger kevin durant
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: basically looks the same twenty. Years later you, know why
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: because that's kind of his. Body type when you have
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: A thicker i don't even want to say stubbier, body
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: type But Like, lebron james. Your natural he's longer than
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a LOT of, nfl players but filled out over the
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  Speaker 1: course of. His Life steph curry dramatically. Filled out does
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Anyone think victor Wim min yama is filling Out, over
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: no that's who. He is, if anything you Know What
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: victor wembenyaman needs. To Do Study like Kareem abdul jabbar
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: shoot a. Hook shot no one will. Ever block it's
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: not cool. To do, it's, like, well fine you're just
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: gonna have. No moves you're just gonna be a no
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: move seven to. Six guy i'll promise. YOU this i
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: will bet against you ever being a TOP ten. Nba
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: player anyone worth their salt will. As WELL so i
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  Speaker 1: just think this notion you can just go in the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: weight room and. GET stronger i think that's easier said.
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  Speaker 1: Than DONE when i Was, in Philadelphia De sean jackson,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: was there like his body type was kind of his.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Body type i'm not saying he was some, gym rat
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: but he was never gonna Look Like. Antlin bolden so,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: some guys some people listening to this, right now like
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: you're forty five, years old don't even lift, that much
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and you're just under ten percent. Body fat everyone's metabolism
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: and body type is. Traumatically DIFFERENT so I just i
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: think we gotta look at this guy a little. BIT
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: different i think this is also it's a good, example
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: too of this is the first time a lot of
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: people have talked shit about him and, been like, you
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: know he's basically had everyone on their knees, doing whatever,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: you know just anointing him the greatest thing since. Sliced
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: bread EVER since i first heard, about him or if
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you look on the, flip Side the knicks are full.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Of guys jalen's, Too short kat's. A pussy you traded
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: too Much, for bridges think about. The, mind Honestly the
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: knicks have a lot of patriot vibes in terms of
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the discussion, about them the hatred, toward them the overrated
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  Speaker 1: nature of how they've built it in the. Individual players
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: team sports is about the outcome of the sum of.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Its parts this is not an. Individual sport SO when
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: i Looked At, san antonio, It's, like oh everyone's been
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: blowing this guy since he was like fourteen, years old
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and now you're watching like he's kind. Of dirty he's
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: like More Skilled draybond green in terms of. His dirtiness,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like what is this? Guy Likable maybe
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: i've just gone the. OTHER way i FELT like i
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  Speaker 1: this notion that he's gonna come out and Look Like
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  Speaker 1: khalil mack in, FIVE years, i mean put down the
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  Speaker 1: not the way the. Body type that's certain body types will.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Never react he could drink protein shakes till he's blue in, the,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: face creatine do whatever. Needs testosterone he's never gonna look that.
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  Speaker 1: Much different i'd be stunned with that. Body. Type stunned uh,
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  Speaker 1: LIKE honestly i know nothing. ABOUT soccer, I know I, Know, Messi,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: ronaldo ronaldinho the dude that died a couple of years
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: ago that Played. For columbia what's, his name did a bunch.
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  Speaker 1: I don't i don't follow. THE sport i don't Watch The.
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  Speaker 1: EUROPEAN league i got no clue what's. Going on but
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: When The world cup, Is on. I'm glued when when,
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• 25:58
  Speaker 1: NOT really I thought germany was up seven to. One
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  Speaker 1: The world cup was about to go on and we
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: were hosting At the link a Friendly FOR. Team usa
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  Speaker 1: and so one day it must, have been, you know
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: around this time. Of year they were gonna practice at our,
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  Speaker 1: practice facility so it must have been Like a Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: Or THURSDAY and i used to, you know it's probably
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  Speaker 1: A sudden i'm out there running And THEN team usa,
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  Speaker 1: shows up And so, I'm like i'm just gonna stay
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and watch them practice for a. Little BIT and I
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  Speaker 1: remember i was kind of standing on the field and
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  Speaker 1: their warm up was like a light jog around the
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  Speaker 1: outside of the, fence line and they did a couple
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  Speaker 1: of times just to warm. Their legs and this Is Like,
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  Speaker 1: Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey. Tim HOWARD now i REMEMBER thinking
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: i don't know that much. About soccer we do not look.
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  Speaker 1: The PART and i, understand soccer this, Isn't football like
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  Speaker 1: you don't need to Look Like khalil Mack Or. Trent williams,
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  Speaker 1: You know messi's what. FIVE' six i, just, KNEW like,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: i know we're not that good and we definitely do not.
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  Speaker 1: Look apart and then we went over there and it was.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: NOT good i don't know much about this team beside,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the HYPE and, i, Said like i'm not, buying In
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: like i'm not buying In because i've done. This before
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: AND then i, WATCH us, i go we. Just don't
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: we've never looked. Like that now you can Tell me
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: paraguay's one of the worst teams in. The tournament they
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: showed the ranking before the tournament and you know they
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: were the lowest rated team in. Our group that was a.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: REMARKABLE performance i was jaw on. The floor i'm not,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: a hater, because like once the, Game starts i'm, Fired up,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I'm singing. I'm chatting I'M just i was not expecting
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: that we look like a real deal. Football TEAM like i,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: SAID that, i mean we look like. We belonged and
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: one thing we've, NEVER had i felt like is like,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: legit firepower and it felt like we had, fucking firepower,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and that to me is what like soccer. Get boring
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Like when floyd Is fighting De la joya and they're just,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Dancing around IT'S like i. Just paid i'm broke. COLLEGE
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: kid i just paid two hundred bucks to watch these
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: guys dance around the ring for. Twelve rounds. IT sucks
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: i want to see some. GUYS swinging i want to see.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: It happening it just feels like we always struggle, to
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: score and now it, feels like do we got like
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: some of the best players in? This tournament Unless maybe,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: i'm OVERREACTING but i had said something and SOMEONE to,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: dm Me, Like john i'm telling you that this team,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: is different and if we're gonna look, like that we're
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Gonna be we're just gonna have a chance to go
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: farther than we've, ever gone and we're gonna have a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: chance to really Draw the american public because the one
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: thing the hockey team did for us, is, like listen
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: we know we're we've been good at, Hockey before we've
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: been much better at hockey than we've ever been. In
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: soccer but like when we Pay play canada or back in, The, Day,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: russia like no one really expects us, to win but
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: when you, watch us, you're, like wow all these guys
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  Speaker 1: on our team are IN. The, nhl right these guys
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: are IN, THE nhl a lot of them thriving IN.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: The nfl like these are. Real PLAYERS so i don't
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: pretend to note that Much About jack Hughes BEFORE, team
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: usa but you're watching you get. To know, you, like
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: oh he's plays With the devils brothers and they're all IN.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: The nhl, it's, like okay these guys are this is,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: legit right our. Goalie sick you're watching back in, The day,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you're like how many of our guys are playing Over
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Like real madrid And man City And manchester United and
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: liverpool and All these, schools're like remember we. NEVER happened i,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: was like all these guys are moving. That way, it's,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: like okay you're giving me. Real players i'm in and
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: uh not to not to get ahead, of myself, you
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: know he did cross, my mind like could we Win The.
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  Speaker 1: World cup It's Funny stands palace Down In los angeles
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  Speaker 1: for a guy That's from missouri that Owned the rams
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  Speaker 1: it's like one he just thinks is a way bigger
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  Speaker 1: market and gonna make. More money he paid five billion
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  Speaker 1: There once. It's incredible obviously he didn't want to change
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  Speaker 1: the turf and fought BACK. With fifa he was a
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: pain in, the ass but that. THAT worked i mean.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: That worked so congrats to our. Men's team on a
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: little bit more of a, Sadder Note alden smith, died yesterday,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: and uh, YOU know i was thinking about he, obviously
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: troubled troubled, young man thirty six, years old just been
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: in a lot, of trouble, self inflicted clearly battle, some
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  Speaker 1: dark dark DEMONS that i as of, RECORDING this i
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  Speaker 1: don't know how he, You know i'm sure they'll be,
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  Speaker 1: you know take him to, The corner tux callege your report.
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  Speaker 1: And everything the report so far has. Just been he
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  Speaker 1: guy came and checked. On him he was unresponsive in.
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  Speaker 1: An hour, you know they take him to the hospital
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  Speaker 1: and he's, you know they confirmed. He's dead so there
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  Speaker 1: was a report Out that shanahan had him talk to
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: their rookies last week with the forty. Nine ers, you
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: know we do this a lot in, sports talk like,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: what IF's like What If JaMarcus russell would, have studied
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  Speaker 1: What If terrell davis never would have messed up? His knee?
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  Speaker 1: What if? WHAT if i think this truly is one
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  Speaker 1: of the great what ifs in the history OF the
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  Speaker 1: NFL because i saw the stat that he's the fastest
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: player in the history of. The league just record thirty
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: sacks took him twenty. Seven games he had thirty three
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and a half sacks his first, Two seasons and clearly
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: he benefited from being on a. Stacked defense He Had,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Justin smith, Ray, McDonald, Navarro Bowman, patrick willis they Were In.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: AHMAD brooks, i mean they. Were Stacked but i've been
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: lucky enough to be around a LOT of. Nfl players
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: he looks. Completely different he was honestly kind of the.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Total package in what if you could drop a, pass
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: rusher he would kind of be at, six,', five long arms,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: powerful but fast could bend and just had a natural
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: feel for. Getting the, quarterback you know we talked About.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: This with brunson some guys. Just have it, he had
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: it and it got derailed really really fast after those,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: couple of years and within a couple of years He's,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: on the raiders. Then he's off it was just a
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: disastrous career after just. An INCREDIBLE start but i truly
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: believe he could have been one of the greatest players,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: of all time, because you know some pass rushers are more.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Speed than power some are more, Power than speed like
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: when it, comes To size like i've spent a lot
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: of time just Close To like Khalil Mack. Or nick
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: bosa those guys look nothing like. This guy looks and
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: when both those guys are, healthy and rolling they're as
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: good as a pass rusher as there IS. In the
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: nfl but if you put if you just stood him
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: next to, those two guys my Mother Would. Pick alden
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: smith so it's just a very. Very sad story and
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: it's one of those that you know when it really
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: went off the rails early and just felt like it got.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Worse and worse but he had a chance early on.
• 34:04
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• 34:06
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• 34:11
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• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the best player out of. That Draft. IMMEDIATELY tyron, smith
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: i mean it Was crazy. HOW dominie was i saw
• 34:22
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• 34:27
  Speaker 1: he was kind of doing a screw round interview for
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: the forty Nine Ers, with trent williams and, he, asked
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: him like who's the toughest pass rusher you? Ever win
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: against and they, were Both thinking or. Trent was, thinking
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: he's like let's. Play a Game i'll go i'll say,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: One two three you, say The name and i'll say
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: the name at. The Same time so joe goes one
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: two three and They Both. Say Aldon smith, AND joe's
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: like i only had to go up against, him In practice,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: AND trent's like i still think, about IT sometimes and
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: i mean that. JUST shows, you i mean there's just it's.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Just just, terrible you know some guys you just battle
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• 35:22
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• 35:24
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  Speaker 1: and then we'll get. OUT of here i know you're
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: a football, man at heart but tapped into. Sports at
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Large with the knicks winning the title after a Controversial
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: firing of. TIBs last offseason that, got me thinking how
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: often in your lifetime does firing your great coach in
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: order to get over the hump and win a? Championship
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: actually work think of, MANY football examples i would say
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  Speaker 1: the majority of the time it backfires. In your face
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  Speaker 1: uh What Just when mike? Brown Just Accomplished and mike
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  Speaker 1: brown was. Kind of unique he's won countless championships as
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  Speaker 1: an assistant coach Multiple. WITH the warriors i think he's
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  Speaker 1: One One. With, san antonio Uh he's Coached Kobe, and
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  Speaker 1: lebron like he's kind of. Seen it all he's not, your,
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  Speaker 1: typical like uh didn't. See this coming he also has
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  Speaker 1: A Little bit pete. Carroll Had this pete carroll was
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  Speaker 1: like their FIFTH choice at usc in two, thousand And
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: One like mike brown was the fifth or sixth Choice
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  Speaker 1: For The. New, york Knicks sometimes like i'm probably wasn't my,
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  Speaker 1: wife's first choice worked out pretty, well for, us YOU
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  Speaker 1: know so, i think, sometimes you know you get dead
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  Speaker 1: set in wanting to do something and it, doesn't work
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  Speaker 1: out and it can lead you to. The RIGHT place
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  Speaker 1: when i, think of times he's a forty, nine ers
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Example They. Fired jim harbaugh they didn't think he was
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  Speaker 1: gonna be able to get him. Over the Hump they Hear.
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  Speaker 1: Jim tom sula they fired him. After one year Then They.
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  Speaker 1: Hired chip kelly they fired him. AFTER one, year i mean.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Think about that there are two pretty good examples right
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: now in football that the heat is on, from day one,
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  Speaker 1: which is awesome But it's the Ravens. And. The Bills
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  Speaker 1: now John harbor and sean McDermott are a. Little bit,
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  Speaker 1: Different you know harbaugh had the championship in, his back
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  Speaker 1: Pocket but the. SEAN McDermott, won i mean there is
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  Speaker 1: like that they've made championship games in. The playoffs constantly
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be like get To the super bowl Or
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  Speaker 1: Bust for JOE brady, MENTOR i mean i think there's
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: More pressure On. Brady THAN mentor but i would say
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  Speaker 1: most of the time it. Does not WORK it's why
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  Speaker 1: I think the steelers for so, long are like we're
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  Speaker 1: not even gonna. Mess with it who's Gonna? Ride with?
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  Speaker 1: TOMLIN you Know i the packers did a, pretty good
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  Speaker 1: job but. It didn't work they got, rid of McCarthy,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: they got lafleur and he's had. Success at once he
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: been to three, conference championship games so two could be could.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Be given them one too many happens, in college football
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  Speaker 1: probably more OFTEN. Than the, nfl but yeah it's it's
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: risky because if you think about It In sports joe
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: tory as, ANOTHER good example i don't he was not
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  Speaker 1: When They fired buck showalter back in. The mid nineties
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  Speaker 1: he was definitely not. Their first choice if you're making the,
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  Speaker 1: playoffs every year and even if you're not getting, maybe
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the conference you're typically gonna. Keep your job if you're
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: making because you're your owner's making a. Bunch of money things,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: are going Well like the knicks last year making it to.
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  Speaker 1: The conference championship that was. A Huge success but timms
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: was a. Little too stubborn i've been LISTENING to your
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: nfl commentary for. A couple years HIGHLY respect that I
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Live In. New york city what are your thoughts and
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Feelings on the knicks? Winning A championship while i was,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: thinking about this because it. Felt really special it felt, like,
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  Speaker 1: It mattered right it felt like it really mattered to
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: everyone in the area That, loves the knicks. That loves,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Basketball You know new york's always been viewed as as,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: a basketball city and, IT felt big i mean because,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: it is big because. It WAS important so i actually, got,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: to thinking like what is the EQUIVALENT? In, the nfl
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: like Who are the knicks if they were to? Win
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: a one you go fifty three years they basically have
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: been there what twice over the course of that time
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: and one ninety nine to nine wasn't that a? Strike
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: shortened season and they were, the eight, seed you know
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: so really they've had one shot to do it where
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: they Got There with PATRICK ewing when i was a
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: kid in a team just gave. Him THE business but
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: i started thinking ABOUT football because i don't think there's
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: there was anyone even in the same Stratosphere as the,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: knicks in Basketball right the lakers have. WON a ton i,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: saw This Guy my marcus thompson Who Writes for THE
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Athletic Who i love marcus wrote an article about the
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: economics with basketball and how you know some of, these
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: bigger Markets like THE knicks or la, or You Know,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: the bay area can take over a road arena and
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: pay you so much money that you. Sell THE tickets and, i,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: was like well if It was the lakers Instead, Of
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: the knicks like if it was the Equivalent of the
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: lakers Playing obviously san antonio Is, in the west but
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: YOU know, what i Mean playing the, HAWKS or whatever
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: i don't think it would have. Been the same like
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: how many Championships advising the lakers Win three With, shaq
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  Speaker 1: and kobe Two. MORE with kobe i guess if you,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: COUNT the, bubble i mean we've seen him, win A.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Lot san antoni You've seen san antonio. Win a lot
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: this guy's a season ticket older and he was getting
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: offered his season tickets for the year cost. Ten thousand
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: dollars someone Offered him for game FIVE Of The nba
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: championship knicks fan twenty grand a ticket. Forty thousand dollars
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: the guy refused to, sell, his seats like. You're fucking
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: nuts if, you're my age you're older you've. Seen your
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: team how Many Championships did tim? Duncan win five your
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: team was good for. Twenty five, years Be like If i'm,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: a Patriot fan If i've seen brady win all These
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: championships and i've Win Into, Some super bowls i've BEEN
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: all these. Afc championship games if someone one day offered
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: me twenty x by seat thirty, X, my seats Like
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: let's say i've seen as good. As it gets if
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: you want my seats, for a game. Fucking, take it
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: no you gotta remove the emotion. A little bit the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: guy's quoting the, Article WAS incredible like i couldn't let.
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  Speaker 1: My guys DOWN You're, Not rc Bufort you're fucking bill
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  Speaker 1: in Row one five wemby couldn't point you out. In
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: the Lineup worst businesscision. I've ever seen it's like up
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: there with like The secretary at apple that had a
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Bunch of h if you would have kept his stock
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: would have been worth, like two billion but sold because
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: he needed seventy. Grand Or, something uh so. Here's my
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: list these are THE teams that i think would have
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the biggest cultural IMPACT. In The nfl uh and there
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: are a lot of, factors here right Never Winning. A super,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: bowl long, droughts rough. PLAY rough stretches, i would say
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: the number one TEAM, in the nfl that just what
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: you feel in, this and listen it's different because it's,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: a smaller market because but it. WOULD feel big i
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: think WE underestimate and i don't, really. Remember this Honestly
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  Speaker 1: The FIRST super bowl, i remember watching like vividly WATCHING
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  Speaker 1: was when. I was ten It was the Niners. PLAYING
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  Speaker 1: the chargers i Don't remember the Bill's Four. STRAIGHT super
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: bowls i don't remember any. Of THOSE games and i.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Think we underestimate think how crazy this stretch has Been
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: for the bills the last, five, plus years, right devastating
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: losses some of the worst losses. You've ever seen it
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: culminated with the entire, team in tears the owner going,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: this is insane the next day firing a coach that
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: was in. The second, round This year the bills lost
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: four straight Years In. The super bowl if you just
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: met a, random football fan he'll take any SPORT World,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: see Nba. Finals SUPER bowl if i said you're gonna,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: make four straight what are the likelihood that you? WOULD
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: win one i would say most fans, would, be like
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: well that would mean you're one of the best teams,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: every single year, like ninety percent you're gonna win one.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Of the four think about the likelihood of losing all
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: those and now they've had. These devastating losses they can't
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: even Make It, the super bowl but they clearly have.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: THIS generational talent I think the bills would be like
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the number one, feel good everyone because even if you
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Kind Of, hate new york it was kind of cool, to,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Watch them right it, was just like this is. An
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: awesome story. This is fun that to me kind Of
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Like the World. Cup watching, america it's like this, is
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: fun sometimes like rolling it back. To our roots why
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: we watch this shit, when, we're, ten. Twelve thirteen, fourteen
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: it's fun it's enjoyable, because back, then you know it's
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: like you, gotta do tours you. Gotta DO homework can
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I just? Watch MONNY football can I Just? Watch michael
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: jordan or maybe You watch Picker Woods play the masters.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: With your, dad it's like, this IS fun and i
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: think That's. What the knicks it, just FELT fun and
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: i Do think the bills winning it would. Feel pretty
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  Speaker 1: Fun so the bills to, me number one number one
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: by far of just like would be the best in
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: terms of. Just that's awesome number two Would. BE the
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: browns i think We underestimate the browns have never been To.
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  Speaker 1: A super bowl they won Some Championships pre, super bowl
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  Speaker 1: era they have never been To. A super bowl and for,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: most of us when we Think About, the cleveland browns unless,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: you're really old you. Think they suck, and they clearly
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: more than likely this year are not going to. Be
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: any good so it's not like it's coming. Around the
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: CORNER but when i think, who loves football the most
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: first GROUP of people i think of as The southern Region.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: TEXAS through Florida i PUT ohio and. Pa right there
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: they Love, football in Ohio and the browns fan base
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: rabid would. Be an understatement think about some of those
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: games over The course of lebron's career with just their their,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: love of sport or Some Of the peak indians games.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: OVER the Years i guess guardians now how passionate They are.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: About Ohio state if cleveland ever got good And Won.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: A super bowl at one, Point In time bill belichick
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: was their coach, and they're like We're moving to baltimore
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: and they just stole, Their team, away you're like what?
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Teams is, leaving, it's like Well the, Seasons, i've done
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: yeah we're out at the end. Of. THE year piece
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: i kind of miss sometimes, IN the nineties. I really
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: do i was telling someone, the other day if this,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: WAS the Nineties I think kyle shanahan Would just make
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: ayuka report and then like someone in the locker room.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Would fight him like that's obviously not happening in this,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Day and age but in the nineties you're just getting
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: your ass kicked. Like with this so to me it Would.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Be the. BROWNS number three i think have To. Be
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: the jets like you see The Power. Of new york there's.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Market sizes matter it's just. A numbers game there are
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: way more people That Live In La new york chicago
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: than live in some of. These smaller towns and that's
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: the outlier Thing, About THE bills like i don't think
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: it WORKS in the nba or baseball like a dozen Football,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: like the bills the equivalent would not, be, Number ONE
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: right but I think the jets the power. Of their
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: market they last they've Been To, one super bowl they
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: won it and it was in. NINETEEN sixty nine i
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: was thinking about it Today like the knicks had won.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Since seventy three in nineteen sixty nine is right. Around
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: that time think how many, generations, of people right if,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: it's seventy three if you were born, in seventy three
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: you would be, what eighty, three ninety three two, thousand
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: and three you'd, be fifty three fifty. Three, YEARS old
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: YEAH i guess i already knew the. Number fifty three.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I'm an. Idiot fifty three so for you to remember,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: watching that championship what's, The earliest eight so what, would you,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: be sixty one, sixty sixty two kind. Of that range so,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: anyone under that anyone under let's just be let's, just be,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: conservative sixty three, just sixty one does Not remember. The,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: knicks winning well if it's, nineteen Sixty, nine the jets
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy sixty five. Ish years old
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: anyone under that has no Recollection of. The jets, Winning
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: big underdogs, joe name, it they WIN and then, i
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: would say definitely the last fifteen year they become the
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: biggest joke. In THE league but i do think they're
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: a little bit of, A sleeping giant. I really do
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: i Would say the lions Because, like the browns they
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: have never Been To the super bowl because when they
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: made the conference championship game couple of years ago to
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: the when they play in the, forty nine ers it
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: was the first conference championship game they had made in.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Three plus decades they hadn't been to the conference championship
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: game in. Three plus Decades They had barry sanders on
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: their team for ten years and. They mainly sucked so in,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: a little, bit You, KNOW, like ohio pa they Left.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Football in michigan you, see the, passion the power you
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Know behind The. University of michigan how Much when the
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Pistons or the, tigers are good like they love, sports
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Up There and damn campbell's kind of awoke in. This
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: FAN base but I, Think The lions bill's lions would
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: be a pretty incredible matchup because The thing With, cleveland
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: the jets they're a year away from being a year
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: away from probably being a year Away like The. Bills
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: and lions if things go right like that Could Be
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: a super, bowl this. Year YOU know, and i last,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: BUT not least i Would. Put in minnesota they are
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: one of the most well run franchises. In the sport
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: they have been pretty consistently good most of my going
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Back To like junior high to, the mid nineties they
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: have just been. A, solid franchise now they went to
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: A Lot of super bowls, in the, seventies but again
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: if you just, do the math people hundred fifty. Don't
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: remember that, so to me the Lasting memories of minnesota
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: are just devastating playoff losses and the last TIME they
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Were i guess they've been to two conference championship games
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: in the last twenty, five plus years and one they
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: ans are Ass kicked in philly and the other One
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Is the. Brett FAAR play so i just think they
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: have consistently. BEEN well run i think this year could be,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: a little rocky, but big picture you just their ownership
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: speaks for itself that there were some other ones. IN
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the conversation i Would, say the bears but like they
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Were In a super bowl twenty plus years ago That
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: They played peyton manning in two, thousand and seven so
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: it's like they were really good throughout, the two thousands,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: You KNOW now and i Would, Say the Cowboys like
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: the cowboys haven't been to a conference championship, in thirty
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: years but they've been really. Good you know, and to Me, It's,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the Bills, cleveland The Jets and lions minnesota would be
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: my ranking of Kind of that, knicks just, like holy,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: shit that matters and, anytime something matters you get more people.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: To pay attention and that's what just Happened. With the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: knicks that's what it now feels Like With. The, world
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: cup yeah have, a great day. Doct you tomorrow the
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