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Chuck & Buck 1-8 Hour 1: We're obsessed with money... ICYMI Rick Neuheisel and are the Seahawks peaking? · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan is here, former mayorn or Bucky Jacobson. My
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  Speaker 2: on this eighth day of January. Good morning, good morning, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: how are you. I'm great, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning.
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  Speaker 4: Good morn Yeah, good morning. Yeah. It's really short. She's
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  Speaker 4: way more hip.
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  Speaker 3: Than we are.
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  Speaker 1: That's old.
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  Speaker 2: I'm back in the days of your Oh I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know they even used that. In the days of your ward. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: well that's the days of your for you.
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  Speaker 1: I know they'll surprise you occasionally.
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  Speaker 2: You just got to dust them off.
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  Speaker 2: And you will find joy. We will find joy today.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Beat BUCkies returning today first time. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how long since we played Beat Bucky.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so happy.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so missed it so much.
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  Speaker 2: It's so much. Yeah, so we'll do that today at
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  Speaker 2: nine o'clock. But of course what's on the top of
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  Speaker 2: everyone's mind is the health and welfare of Dave Maler. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: this story over there at you it doesn't have just
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  Speaker 2: our most talkative talk show host talking, It's got everybody talking.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, we really are. I brought up
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  Speaker 2: the name Kurt Flood. I don't know if that comes
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  Speaker 2: out of nowhere for people, but you know, we haven't
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  Speaker 2: always had free agency. And Kurt Flood is a former
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  Speaker 2: center fielder for the Arizona the Saint Louis Cardinals, and
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  Speaker 2: he just was he got traded to the Philadelphia Phillies
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  Speaker 2: and he's like, do I have any rights as a player?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's never a period of time where I
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  Speaker 2: get to choose where I want to play. And so
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  Speaker 2: Kurt Flood sort of sat out baseball, challenged the system,
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  Speaker 2: and ultimately met Marvin Miller, and Marvin Miller is one
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  Speaker 2: of the most important people in the history of sports,
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  Speaker 2: eventually carved out a little thing called free agency that
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  Speaker 2: I think sports fans really love, and so that that
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  Speaker 2: sort of gave that moment sort of changed sports. And
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  Speaker 2: Kurt Flood is known for being the guy that stood
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  Speaker 2: his ground and said enough. I do think that this
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  Speaker 2: Demand Williams Junior story could have the same sort of effect,
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  Speaker 2: granted over a much shorter period of time. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we've only dealt with NIL for a few years now.
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  Speaker 2: Baseball dealt with its reserve clause for seventy five years
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  Speaker 2: before it actually got dented, and so this is something
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  Speaker 2: relatively new. But I think that this experience is likely
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  Speaker 2: going to change things in college football. I think that
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  Speaker 2: they were waiting for an example that seemed so extreme
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  Speaker 2: that now the lawyers get involved and college football has
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  Speaker 2: no choice. And so this is kind of what people
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  Speaker 2: are talking about nationally, like how impactful this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be, not just for you dub or LSU or
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  Speaker 2: Miami wherever Demand Williams Junior ends up, not even just
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  Speaker 2: for college football, but for college sports in general. In
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  Speaker 2: the new NIL ear we might I mean, it's been
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  Speaker 2: a bad year for short quarterbacks in the NFL their
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  Speaker 2: value going forward. I mean, Demon Williams might not have
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  Speaker 2: an NFL future as talented as he is, with teams
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  Speaker 2: sort of souring on five foot three inch quarterbacks going forward,
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  Speaker 2: But what he might be remembered for is this casey
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  Speaker 2: and kind of the villain in this case, and he
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  Speaker 2: might introduce some rules legislation. Who knows for how college
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  Speaker 2: athletics is going to operate in this new nil world.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you this right now, pretty much everybody in
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  Speaker 2: college sports is rooting for you, Dub. And it's lawyers, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because they don't want to keep dealing with this. They
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  Speaker 2: want guardrails. Is the word that keeps getting used everywhere,
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  Speaker 2: some sort of system that doesn't allow somebody to just say, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know I signed something. Yeah I know I agreed
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  Speaker 2: to something. But that doesn't matter, does it. Well, we've
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  Speaker 2: got to get to the point in college athletics where
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. Your word may not matter anymore,
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  Speaker 2: but your signature should matter. Your commitment through your signature
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  Speaker 2: should matter. And so I do believe this is sort
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  Speaker 2: of a landmark topic that's going to change the face
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  Speaker 2: of modern sports.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with you, I mean modern collegiate sports. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean to me.
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  Speaker 3: You guys know, I'm typically a little bit slower to
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  Speaker 3: the late to the party when it comes to just
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  Speaker 3: big moves across sports, just because I grew up watching
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  Speaker 3: sports and played sports, and I liked it. It wasn't
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  Speaker 3: like I was like, gosh, there needs to be these
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  Speaker 3: drastic overhauls a bunch of stuff. Now, that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 3: that there isn't improvement to be made, and so progress
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  Speaker 3: can be made. I think this is one where there
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  Speaker 3: was progression that was made, a progression that was taking
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  Speaker 3: place with the paying of players, and yet the way
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  Speaker 3: in which they did it just kind of heathered has
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  Speaker 3: led to a place where the sport of college football
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  Speaker 3: in particular is just unrecognizable.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: This on the field isn't It's still good on the field, right,
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  Speaker 3: but the workings behind the scenes and how it can
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  Speaker 3: affect your fandom, how much you're going to invest into
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  Speaker 3: any player in particular, because you don't know if they're
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  Speaker 3: going to be there next week or next year or
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  Speaker 3: what Versus what it used to be where you got
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  Speaker 3: somebody to sign a letter of intent and they picked
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  Speaker 3: out your team's hat and you're like, right on this,
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  Speaker 3: and be great to watch this kid grow up and
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  Speaker 3: maybe they turn into something great and then go on
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  Speaker 3: for a professional career, and you kind of you remember
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  Speaker 3: when they're eighteen and they walked on campus the first time,
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  Speaker 3: and you kind of fell in love with them as
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  Speaker 3: a sports fan, and it just is now it's so
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  Speaker 3: much different that they have to get their arms around
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  Speaker 3: this to some degree, because yeah, I think that's it's
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  Speaker 3: one thing to have progress, and then it's another thing
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  Speaker 3: to where the progress ends up being detrimental to whether
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  Speaker 3: it's optically or legitimately, and this is one where it's legitimately,
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  Speaker 3: Like you can't say that you can't. It's already tough
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  Speaker 3: enough to have to recruit a kid to get him
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  Speaker 3: to come to play for you, and then while you're
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  Speaker 3: coaching him, you have to basically still be thinking about
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  Speaker 3: your recruiting him because you might leave if you yell at.
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  Speaker 2: Him, and that stuff's gotta stop.
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  Speaker 3: And then after the season, you did well and he
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  Speaker 3: did well, and you're you're poised for another, you know,
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  Speaker 3: season of growth the following season for him as a
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  Speaker 3: player and you as a coach, and you even get
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  Speaker 3: him to sign on the dotted line, and then he
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  Speaker 3: can still jump ship, or he thinks he can still
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  Speaker 3: jump ship and go somewhere else. You have to get
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  Speaker 3: this thing under control to some degree. And so I'm
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  Speaker 3: with him. I think that this could be the Kurt
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  Speaker 3: Flood moment. I think this could be the the moment
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  Speaker 3: in college sports where you just go they just say, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: we have to do something. Now, You're never gonna put
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  Speaker 3: that genie back in the bottle, and players, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Either, Frankly, I mean, I'll say something that because we're
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  Speaker 2: if you're a Husky fan at all, and I'm certainly
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  Speaker 2: lesser than than Ashley, who's lesser than than Softy, who
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  Speaker 2: might be lesser than than nobody, but a lot of
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  Speaker 2: you out there, I'm not going to try to compare
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  Speaker 2: myself to you that bleed purple and have your entire
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  Speaker 2: lives and your first you know, baby Bib was Don
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  Speaker 2: James dogfather, you know, baby Bib. I'm yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 2: You're right, it would have been. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: try to pretend that I'm on on that level. And
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  Speaker 2: so keep that in mind when I say this. I
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  Speaker 2: don't like that U Dub has to be involved in
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  Speaker 2: this story and that we have to go without Demon
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  Speaker 2: Williams Junior next week next year in order to be
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  Speaker 2: part of this story. But this nil thing had to happen.
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  Speaker 2: It was going to happen. There was no stopping it,
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  Speaker 2: and it really does represent progress, and so we needed
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  Speaker 2: something like this. We've not been living with this for
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  Speaker 2: very long, so we needed something like this to make
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  Speaker 2: it obvious that we can't allow things like this to
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  Speaker 2: occur and call ourselves sports, call ourselves, you know, organized sports.
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  Speaker 2: This is like, this is you know, what do they
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  Speaker 2: call the mafia? It's organized crime. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 2: organized crime. This isn't organized sports here, and so I
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  Speaker 2: think that we needed this moment. It had to happen,
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  Speaker 2: and I and didn't take that long for it to happen.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we've only been dealing with us for three years,
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  Speaker 2: and while it's been happening, the sport's been better than ever.
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  Speaker 2: Its popularity has been better than ever. Usually when one
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  Speaker 2: of these sort of disastrous moments occur, it's at the
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  Speaker 2: end of calamity and the league is trying to save itself.
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  Speaker 2: I think this actually could be a really great thing
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  Speaker 2: for college athletics because it is just the type of
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  Speaker 2: stayin that everyone nationally is saying, well, that can't hap.
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  Speaker 2: And so when everybody's on board with that, that's when
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  Speaker 2: maybe change and progress, real progress will take place. So
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a byproduct of progress. We knew
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  Speaker 2: there was going to be some ugliness to deal with.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the wild West was going to occur for
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  Speaker 2: a little while, and the wild West had some merits
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  Speaker 2: to it, freedom, liberties, all that sort of thing. But
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  Speaker 2: obviously they had to introduce some rules because you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: just shoot up everybody in a saloon whenever you chose to.
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  Speaker 2: And that's kind of where we are. The saloon got
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  Speaker 2: shot up. Let's make some rules to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: this doesn't happen again. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think the unfortunate thing though, is that this all happened.
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  Speaker 5: And yes, to the sport's more popular than ever, but
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  Speaker 5: the fans have been the ones that have been you know,
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  Speaker 5: as this sport has gotten more popular, it's been at
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  Speaker 5: the detriment of the fans.
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  Speaker 1: And it's one more thing after another.
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  Speaker 5: While there's fans in general of college football, I'm talking
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  Speaker 5: about the specific fans to the schools that are the
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  Speaker 5: ones that I think, unfortunately are getting the short end
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  Speaker 5: of the stick through all of it.
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  Speaker 2: Well I met, oh yeah, quarterback search now, so I mean, well,
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  Speaker 2: everybody seems to be turning the page toward that. At
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  Speaker 2: this point. I would say another thing, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's always existed, and I know
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  Speaker 2: that money is the driving force behind a lot of
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  Speaker 2: our professional decisions, But when did it become everything? How
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  Speaker 2: did we let it become everything? How did we allow
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  Speaker 2: ourselves to get to a point where we would go
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  Speaker 2: back on our word when we have nine dollars just
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  Speaker 2: to make ten. I last night there was a trade
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  Speaker 2: in the NBA. Just to give you an example, Trey
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  Speaker 2: Young got traded. Trey Young has been a really good player,
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  Speaker 2: never reached greatness, never will reach greatness. He's got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of offensive ability. I think he averaged like twenty
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  Speaker 2: five to thirty points per game at one point with
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  Speaker 2: the Atlanta Hawks. Trey Young, and for some reason, he's
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  Speaker 2: held onto his thinning hair longer than anyone I've ever
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  Speaker 2: seen in there.
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  Speaker 1: He really has.
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  Speaker 2: It's strange. I thought for sure that was going to
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  Speaker 2: be gone by now. Anyway, Trey Young's he's a good really,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, a great basketball player, but by NBA terms,
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  Speaker 2: he's never reached greatness. But he's good. But the Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: Hawks are like, how do we get to the next level?
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  Speaker 2: And they pretty much decided we got to get rid
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  Speaker 2: of him. We're not nearly as good. He's such a
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  Speaker 2: detriment on one side of the court that we got
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  Speaker 2: to we gotta get rid of that guy. And so
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  Speaker 2: the rumors started that Trey Young could be traded to Washington.
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  Speaker 2: The Wizards, the worst organization in the NBA. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: name a Washington Wizard Gandolf, I mean name the name.
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  Speaker 2: The last time the Washington Wizards were relevant Michael Jordan
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  Speaker 2: when he played at the end of his career, and
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  Speaker 2: even that was sort of tea.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't because the team. Everyone was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: the team's good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's as That's as bad an organization
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  Speaker 2: as there is in sports. And my I thought initially
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  Speaker 2: when I saw the rumors was man, Trey Young, be
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  Speaker 2: careful what you wish for when you won out of Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: because you could get traded to an even worse situation
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  Speaker 2: in Washington and never win again. Then I find out
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  Speaker 2: a couple hours later, No, that's where Trey Young wants
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  Speaker 2: to go. That's the team he's handpicked. Trade me to
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  Speaker 2: the Wizards. And you want to know why, because that's
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  Speaker 2: where he can get max dollars. He's making forty million
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  Speaker 2: a year, he's making forty million dollars a year, wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: you think at this point, with his thinning hair and
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  Speaker 2: having only like touched the playoffs and never gotten out
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  Speaker 2: of the first round. Maybe he's gotten out of the
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  Speaker 2: first round. But you know my point that you, as
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  Speaker 2: a competitor, somebody who for a living has a win
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  Speaker 2: or a loss at the end of your workday that
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  Speaker 2: determines whether or not you had a good day at work.
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  Speaker 2: At some point, wouldn't you say, man, I'd give up
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  Speaker 2: a few million to win. Nope, not Trey Young. Trey
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  Speaker 2: Young's like, I don't. I'll be the worst. I'll be
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  Speaker 2: even worse in a worse situation on a worst team
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  Speaker 2: with no chance of winning. If I can just go
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  Speaker 2: from forty million to forty five million, I mean, what
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  Speaker 2: kind of mentality is that?
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  Speaker 1: Terrible?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure it's existed forever, Bucket, I'm sure that
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  Speaker 2: it existed with players that you played with as well,
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  Speaker 2: But it just seems like the almighty dollar and making
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  Speaker 2: ten instead of nine rules over everything right now. And
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  Speaker 2: that is a really sad point. And it's not just
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  Speaker 2: the kids, Kaylin de Boor. I'll call you out for it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll call out Lane Kiffin for it. I think the
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  Speaker 2: adults are just as bad that are trying to play
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  Speaker 2: in this sandbox. I think it's just a sad place
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  Speaker 2: to be. I really do. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know for sure if I'd think
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  Speaker 3: of lenk Iff and yes, Kaitlin de Bor to me,
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  Speaker 3: it just felt like it was you're going to one
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  Speaker 3: of the premiere, if not the premier college programs. And
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  Speaker 3: if he's more money along with it, fine.
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  Speaker 2: If you can handle it. He looks miserable. He looks
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  Speaker 2: like a skeleton who's puppy dyed. That's I mean, he
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  Speaker 2: looks extra, he looks he looks miserable, and he's still
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  Speaker 2: every week involved in a rumor to be leaving, and
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't happen. If he's one hundred percent happy, he
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  Speaker 2: there's some at some point you just got when he
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  Speaker 2: got here, it was like, this is it. This is
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  Speaker 2: my dream job. This was his dream job. It was
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  Speaker 2: just large enough without too much scrutiny and too much pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Had you have Seahawks in town and Mariners in town,
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  Speaker 2: and kracking in town and probably Sonics in town, he
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  Speaker 2: could just have found his comfortable Niche he would have
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  Speaker 2: been making ten million dollars a year, which is more
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  Speaker 2: than he would have ever made. His family liked it,
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  Speaker 2: His daughter chose to go to school here, all of
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  Speaker 2: this stuff was happening, and he went for a definitely
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  Speaker 2: a better program, but also a different environment, a different
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  Speaker 2: type of pressure. You're the only thing in town. If
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  Speaker 2: you're Nick Saban and you've got one of the greatest
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  Speaker 2: egos in the history of the galaxy, you can handle that.
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  Speaker 2: Klein the board doesn't have that personality, and he looks
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  Speaker 2: freaking miserable.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well he might be.
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  Speaker 2: He might be.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I just, I just there's a difference there, right,
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  Speaker 3: That's all I was saying with that to the point
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  Speaker 3: of why is the almighty dollar the king of everything?
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  Speaker 3: It seems with just about everyone. Now, I don't understand.
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  Speaker 3: You're right, It's always been around. I mean, there's always
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  Speaker 3: players that would have chosen a little bit more money
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  Speaker 3: over the prestige of winning or the pressure of winning. Really,
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  Speaker 3: in all honesty, you don't have any pressure if you
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  Speaker 3: never make the playoffs, if you just go collect your
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  Speaker 3: paycheck and you get more vacation because you don't have
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: to play the two months of NBA playoffs or whatever
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: it might be, I think it's it's less.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: He was less back then.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: I think there was a whole bunch of people that
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: put more stock on winning, and money was the byproduct
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: of that. More money even was the byproduct of that.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Tom Brady was is a prime example of it. He
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: wanted to win more than he wanted to be rich,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: and he was being rich because of it, and he
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: was rich anyway.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying to make a million dollars
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: so that you can surround yourself. I'm saying, do you
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: have to make forty two when you're making forty That's
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: the part.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I don't that stuff.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying because tom Brady was making a
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: great salary his entire career, and probably was making some
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: under the table, and he was making his money on
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the side, and he knew he was going to make
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: money in the future, and so it's not like he
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: made some as big a financial sacrifice as sometimes we
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: led on because it adds to his heroism. He was
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: making a great self. But I do respect him because
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: there are people out there like I'll lose have bad teammates,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I'll live in a city I don't want to live in.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I'll play for a coach. I don't want to coach
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: if I can just make forty four million dollars a
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: year instead of forty one, because I can't take that insult.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Right, Well, I'll get what.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: It was as an insult. It's ego. Yeah, yeah, they want.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Everyone wants to be the highest paid. At some point.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I was the highest paid.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah for a week, and then this guy got
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: a new contract and now he's the highest paid.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: So what do you really gain on that?
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Old Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson apparently they're great friends,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: and by all accounts, Justin Jefferson's like the nicest person
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: in the world. All they do in their life is
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: to try to make more money than their buddy. That's
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: what they're doing. That's what they do, right.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: It's highly important to them, right, it's that little brag factor.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I guess when they're hanging out on some you know,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: beach in the offseason, and yet you know, I mean
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: they I think both of them care about going out
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: and putting up crazy numbers, right, I think more importantly
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: than making more money. I'll bet at the end of it,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: when they're sitting on a porch smoking a stogi, that
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: they're both retired, they're gonna want to brag about if
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: they won a.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl or not.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I would, yeah, they if they had better numbers fifty yeah.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: But in the moment these we have this culture of
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: the most important thing is that I just.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Make more money than that guy. Yeah, and that's unfortunate.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: And then without a doubt now to me, I think
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: when it comes to this whole thing, kind of rounding
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: it back to like Demon Williams, there's at some point
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: I think everybody would have the decision of Okay, the
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: difference between making forty two million versus forty and you
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: go from a team that you could be competitive on
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: you were in the playoffs a couple of years ago
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: to a team that hasn't been relevant for two decades.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: That I don't understand and I never will understand. If
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: you were going to make four million dollars as a
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: collegiate quarterback and you now can make six or if
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: it's five to seven, whatever it is, that's a big difference,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: especially considering you don't know for sure if you're going
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: to the NFL. You don't know if you're an injury
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: away from this is your So if it's a fifty percent,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I mean you make four million bucks or six million bucks.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: That's over the course of your career. That's a big difference.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: And so to me, there's there's there's thinking to people.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Before you give your word. Agreed, one hundred percent. Your
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: word should mean more than what it means to people nowadays.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: And that's in college sports. That's the ugliest part of
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: where we're at with the transfer portal and coaches carousel
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: jumping ship for the next best thing.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the young people. I mean, the adults
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: are the one raising the young people, and it's the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: adults who are the one coaching the young people, and
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: they're just as bad of not words.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's to me is the ugliest part of it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, the money makes things uglier because you'll just
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: see people chasing it. But it's the fact that your
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: word means nothing. There is no loyalty, there is no commitment. Uh,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: if you don't have commitment to something, I mean, to me,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: it's just kind of there's a personality flaw that goes
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: with that. And yet that's the way the game is
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: played right now, and so you kind of feel like
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: even people that have good integrity or want to be
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: you don't want to show integrity and commitment. They almost
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: are forced to where there it's really difficult for them
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: to know.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: And this applies only to people. I mean, if you
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: make seventy five thousand dollars a year and you have
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: four kids, and you're like, how am I going to
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: send these people to college someday? And you got to
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: double your raise. If you hold your boss the week
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: before that, you're committed and you have a chance to
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: make double the amount of take the job right. This
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: doesn't apply to This applies to the fantasy world that
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: these athletes today live in. Millionaires, Yeah, I mean more
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: than millionaires, damn near billionaires at this point. That's what
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I'm That's what I'm applying to. All Right, we don't
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: have time for what's on tap, but I think we
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: could do it in our next segment with in case
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: you missed it, Rick new Eiel, because we're just gonna
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: hear from coach new Isel about tonight's college football playoff games.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: So that's coming your way on Sports Radio ninety three
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: point three KJRFM. What's on tap? Oh yeah, we didn't
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: get to what's on tap. We got a little gabby
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: in that first segment, but we can certainly do it now.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: It is Chuck, it is Buck, it is Ashley here
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: on this Thursday morning, and I do want to go
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: through the headlines for you this morning because there are
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: some juicy ones. Plus you do need to know what's
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: coming up on the show today, including Ryan Leaf at
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: seven oh five, the former Koog's Gray. He's going to
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: be on the call for the NFL playoffs this week,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: and he's got the Rams Panthers game on Saturday, which
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: you can hear right here at Sports Radio ninety three
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: point three kr FM. So he'll be joining us at
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: seven o five this morning to talk about that, probably
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: ask him about college football a little bit, probably, and
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: a few other things. So Ryan Leaf joins us today
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: on Chuck and Buck. The other game on Saturday in
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the NFL Wildcard Playoffs will be the Chicago Bears hosting
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers. That'll be a five o'clock Saturday
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: evening triple eder on Sunday, and then a Monday night
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: football affair in the Wildcard round that will be the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Texans Steelers game from Pittsburgh. Mike Sando joins US today
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: at nine thirty our NFL Insider to discuss that Seahawks are,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: of course on buy. How do you earn that? Is
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: that like a drawing? Is that just luck of the draw?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I look this up. Oh, I'm glad you asked.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: It's actually if you are the number one seed in
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: your conference. So if you're in the NFC and you're
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: the best.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, oh yeah, to have the best record, the
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: best record, Oh okay, yeah, So that's and that was
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: us apparently, congratulations Seahawks best record reward. Yeah, oh nice. Huh.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: That's better than an extra million dollars here.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I thought it was just you know, throwing darts. But
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: the best.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Team actually the records that gives you.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: There, that's awesome. Clint Kubiak continues to do interviews everywhere.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not I think he might be the next LSU
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: quarterback at this point. That Washington. Yeah, that's how many
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: interviews he's done this week. John Harbaugh has told all
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: of his suitors and apparently that's everyone that, Hey, give
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: me a week to kind of I've been at Baltimore
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: for eighteen years. I need a breath here and then
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I'll start thinking about my future. So he's going to
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: start doing interviews next week. But apparently every single team
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: with a vacancy, and a couple that even don't even
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: have vacancies want to talk to John Harbaugh. Did you
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: hear Jim's comments about him yesterday?
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: No, love each other.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: It's so I love it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: He was just like, what about John Harbaugh? Best coach
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: in the world ever? Ever?
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, doesn't he wanted to go to NFC.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Serie every Land's next. They're going to be formidable or
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: something like that. I hope it's in the NFC.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love their relationship. It's very cool. Elijah
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Royo back at practice this week. We'll ask more of
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Greg about that because today we got an hour with
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Greg Ann with Hugh twelve man round table coming up
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: at eight o'clock. Today, we got college basketball. U doub
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: just can't measure up at this stage with one of
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: the top five teams in the country. Perdue beat them
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: last night eighty one to seventy three. So the fighting
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: sprinkles nine and six on the year, one and three
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: now in Big Ten play. They will next play Sunday.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Good thing, there's not anything to go up against. They'll
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: take on the Ohio State Buckeyes Sunday at three o'clock.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Cracking absolutely on fire. They're going to try to continue
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: that Tonight. They'll be home again against the Minnesota Wild
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: and that we'll start at seven o'clock. Cubs acquired a
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: very very very talented pitcher and Edward Cabrera yesterday, who's
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: been good but hasn't put it completely together. He got
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Jacob de Gram comparisons at one point early in his career.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: So the Cubs really interesting trade yesterday. The Mariners signed
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Patrick Wisdom to a minor league deal yesterday. He had
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: thirty five home runs last year in the Korean League.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: He's been a Mariner before, didn't have any success with us,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: but then all of a sudden, as soon as he
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: left us, he found his power. It's very strange. Yeah,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: maybe hard maybe, Yeah, Well that's him. That comes with Yeah,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: that comes with time.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: So the Mariners acquired Wisdom yesterday is what they did.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: And the Washington Wizards traded for Trey Young from the
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Atlanta Hawks. We've already talked about his selfish ass. All right,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: let's talk some college for fotball because tonight the college
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: football Playoff resumes Ole Miss versus Miami. They kick off
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: at four point thirty this evening. But when we chatted
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: with Rick new Eiel earlier this week on Tuesday, our
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: College Football Insider, we started with the Friday matchup between
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Indiana and Oregon. Of course they've already played this year.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Indiana handed it to them. I asked coach new Isel,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: how is Oregon going to handle Indiana this time around?
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: It will be a tremendous undertaking because you've got to
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: remember that will Stein is now he just got a
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: quarterback at the Minschie kid, Kenny Minschie. He got him
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: to flip from Nebraska to Kentucky. So imagine how many
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: man hours in conversation hours that took to get that
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: done to get him to come to Kentucky. While you're
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: also getting ready to take on a defense that held
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: you to forty one yards in the second half when
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: you played the first time in Eugene. Yeah, I mean,
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: how do you how do you do all that? Uh?
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: Are the receivers good enough to beat this NFL? Secondary?
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Are the is? Can you run the ball against this
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: team when they basically stopped it? The last time. If
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: Oregon wins this game, it's going to be one of
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: the great coaching jobs in recent memory by Dan Lanning
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: and his staff, given the all the other things that
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: are on their list of things to do. Uh So,
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: I gotta lean. As much as I love Dan Lanning
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: and I love the duck story, I gotta lean towards Indiana.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: In that game.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: How about the Miami ole miss How about that game.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of intrigue around that one as well.
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: Obviously it's uh, it's fascinating. There's an old saying about
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: a coach being asked who's going to win the championship.
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: He says, I don't know who it's going to be,
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: but I know what they're going to look like, and
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: they're gonna look like Miami. Miami has the defensive front
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: four that doesn't need to have a linebacker add to
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: the to the pass rush to put pressure on the quarterback.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: This Mezzodor and Baying are fantastic defensive ends. They put
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: pressure on the A and M quarterback. They put pressure
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: on saying for Ohio State, and they have been the
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: key to this run that the Hurricanes are on. And
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: they've also realized that the games that they lost, Carson
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: Beck through six interceptions in those two games, so they're
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: not letting him throw. He only threw for one hundred
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: and two yards against an M and one hundred and
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: thirty eight against Ohio State and they still won the game.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: So they're going to have Mark Fletcher run the ball. Remember,
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: ole Miss is like sixtieth and sixties third in the
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: country in rush defense. So you run the ball, you
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: play field position, you don't let Beck screw it up.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: He just plays within himself and you win with your defense. That,
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: to me is the equation. If Mario Christobal stays with
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: that formula, he'll be fine. I think despite the fun
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: offense that Trididan Shambliss has run, I just think Miami's
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: too talented for the team, and given the ability to
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: put pressure on the quarterback, which Georgia was unable to
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: do at least consistently, I think it makes for a
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: Miami win.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: As a coach, somebody that has had to manage a
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: roster and a coaching staff and everything else for many,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: many years, how difficult is this for ole Miss to
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: be doing this coaching dance with LSU getting ready for
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: a final four game.
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: Well, I think what we have to remember and people
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: don't realize this. These coaching staffs have proliferated beyond belief.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: This was a Nick Saban additive to the world of
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: college football that a lot of coaches really complaining about.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: But the world of analysts has gone through the roof,
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: and the NCAA tried to hold on like they always do,
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: but then they got the court of law and realized
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: they couldn't do anything about it. So it's basically broken way.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: So there are assistants to assistance to assistants on these
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: coaching staffs. The fact that you've lost a few coaches,
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: there are other guys that know how to coach that position.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: So I don't think it's nearly as big a deal
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: as people are making it out to be. Especially if
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: Charlie Weiss Junior is staying and going to call, the
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: rhythm of the offense will be very similar.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: And especially since they have that Chamblis kit at quarterback.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: The kid's a magician.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: Oh in need fun, in need fun. It was a
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: crime that he wasn't in New York. It would have
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: been a great ability to talk about Division two and
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: the FCS and Division three. I mean, there's still pure
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: college football out there. I want the fans that missed
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: that to know that it's still available.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Rick new Isel in case you missed it on Tuesday,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: the entire interview available at our website ninety three three
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: kjar dot com on our podcast ninety three to three
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: kjar dot com. He does get into sort of the
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: state of affairs of college football right now. Of course,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: this was all the way back on Tuesday before we
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: knew about Demond Williams Junior's decision, and so we didn't
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: address that, but we addressed very interesting things with Rick Newiel.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: If you want to check out the entire interview, Ole
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: miss Miami tonight. He's going with Miami. I think he's right.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I think Miami's going to get it done tonight, even
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: though I think Chamberliss is the best player on the field.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: They're good.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: I mean that defense, that Bain and what's the other
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: dude's name, Dude Medor Yes, Oh my gosh. Those guys
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: just absolutely are all over the quarterback at all times.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: You might be right, I'm going to be cheered very
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: hard that you're not go anyone but Miami.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bain could be their bane.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: That's all I could think of when I hear it too.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Your head coach has abandoned you. He is not here
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: to save you now he wanted to be.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I think most people thought Georgia was going to be
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: all this, so you never know. Anything's possible.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: All right, Coming up next, Seahawks getting ready for their
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: bye week. But of course we're trying to put in
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: perspective while everybody else fights it out this weekend. Are
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks peaking at the right time. We'll discuss next
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. We'll talk a
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: little college football, but we're gonna talk more NFL playoffs.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: So with him. He's got the call of the game
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: this Saturday right here on KJAR of the Rams and
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Panthers game, so we'll get his expert opinion coming up
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: here at seven oh five. Of course, we'll have our
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: roundtable today from eight to nine. Hugh Millen and Greg
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Bell will be with us for an entire hour of
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Seahawks talk right here on Chuck and Buck. And one
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: thing that I asked Matt hasselback yesterday when we had
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: him on, because it looks like we're gonna have him
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: on like all the time now. He joined us yesterday
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: at eight o'clock. Another thing you should check out on
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the podcast there at the old website. And I asked him,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I said, do you feel like they're peaking at the
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: right time? And his answer to that was, I don't
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: think they're peaking at all. He said, the defense is peaking,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: but I don't see the team playing its best football
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: right now. And he's I mean there's probably some truth
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: to that. I know there's some truth to that, and
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: so they certainly have another gear that they can go
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: and probably will need that gear. I think that defense
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: can win championships. I think that can be the strongest
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: side of the ball. But you can't play poorly on defense.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not even sure you can play mediocre offense, I
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: should say, and win the Super Bowl and this kind
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: of competitive landscape.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that there's I think there's some
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: of the teams that a game manager type game out
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: of Sam Darnold and the offense could win. I think
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: there's some team. I mean, if if they go against
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: the Eagles at some point and the Eagles continue to
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: look like the tournament right, well, yeah, you're probably not
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: going to be able to have a mediocre day against
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: the Rams. You know that. I mean, I would say, yes,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: you need to kick it into gear and be playing
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: as well as you can on both sides the ball
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: to win it all. Otherwise you probably will run into
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: a buzzsaw. But the idea of what this team's been doing, yeah,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're built around the defense, and so to me,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: it's if you have to go, hey, you're heading in
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: the right direction, or do you feel like you finished strong?
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: You ended up pulling out that game against the Rams,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: but after that the last two, I mean, you put
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: it on the Panthers playoff team and you put it
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: on the Niners playoff team.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: For all the marbles.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I just feel like the straw that stirs the drink
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: is the defense, and they're playing they are peaking at
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: the right.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Time out certainly, Yeah, I would say, I mean, I
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: think they've been playing or peaking since what end of
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: October potentially, But they're just so consistent and you know
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: what you're getting out of them. And yeah, I think
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: with the way that they're playing, it's not that it
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter what your offense does, because obviously it matters
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: what your offense does, but they're at least doing what
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: needs to get done to allow the defense to win
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: the game.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the defense is playing so well that I think.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I really when I did ask that question, I felt
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: like the Seahawks are peaking at the right time. And
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: then yeah, the answer, though, gives you pause, makes you think, yeah,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: you're right, there's another level to go. I mean, the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: offense certainly played better in the first half of the
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: season than it's played in the second half of the season.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: And I don't really even know if momentum matters. I
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: always when I was a younger broadcaster, I always seemed
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: to emphasize that at this time of the year. But
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: now that you got a little bit of Patrick wisdom
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: in your life, you know, once you've had a few
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: years doing this, you've just seen so many teams that
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: look like they were gonna stomp everybody out and then
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: get tripped up in Round one of the playoffs. And
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I've seen so many teams that look like they were
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: just floundering. I remember living in Arizona, and the Cardinals
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: couldn't have been playing worse. At the end of the year.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I think they got beat by the Panthers like by
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: fifty points or something like that in the second to
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: last game of the season, and they just and all
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, playoffs hit and they start playing their
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: best football of the year. So I don't know what
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: the magical sawces. I would just say this, I'd rather
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: be playing well right now than not playing well. And
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: maybe you can turn it around overnight once the playoffs.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Maybe you can flip a switch. We've seen it happen
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: historically to teams. But if you're gonna give me the choice,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I'd certainly much rather be close to peaking right now
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: than not peaking well.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, to me, it feels like, go the opposite
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: end of it. The Carolina Panthers backed in about as
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: much as you can back into the playoffs, right, I mean,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: losing record, they lost the head to head against Tampa Bay,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: but luckily they get help from another division foe to
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: get in. And now you're gonna be going against another
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: team that is arguably one of the best in the
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: NFC or even one of the best in the NFL.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: It doesn't even feel it feels like, wait, we've talked
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: about the entire playoffs. It feels like that's the team
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: of all teams that has the least chance of winning
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: it all? And now is that because the way they're
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: playing down the stretch just because they're not in it
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: just feeble.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: It kind of feels like that's how they've been all year.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: But then they go out and they beat the Rams just
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: a few weeks ago, So it's.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I think that they caable of an upset, but it's
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: not against the Rams.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Well, that's I think that who you want to be
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: is the team that consistently goes out kind of like
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Ashley said, like, who have you been for majority of
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: the year? And this team has kind of been really
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: competitive every single game talking about the Seahawks and you know,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: and but they've been better defensively the second half of
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: the season. I mean been like start talking about is
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: this legion of boom again type stuff? And the offense
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: has fallen off to some degree. But it's also it's like, yeah, well,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: when you're playing a backup quarterback and you give up
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: zero points and you have twenty, you know, nineteen points
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: three quarters into it, are you really trying.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: To get to forty?
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: No, you're just moving the ball a little bit, and
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: if you eat some clock and then if you don't,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: you know, put the ball in harms weight for a
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: pick six. That might give them a chance or make
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: them feel like they believe, all right, you punt the ball.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Our defense is Max Browsner is not going to do anything.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: So it's like you, the game's not always the same.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: So the offense at times hasn't looked as great, but
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: it's still they've done enough. They've done enough, and then
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: some it feels like with the exception of that LA game.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Well, from what I've heard inside the house, thirteen to three,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: they didn't feel this they needed any more than thirteen
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: points going into that game. So yeah, so they're playing
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: a little bit differently offensively right now because of how
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: great they're playing defensively. They're not looking at like we
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: got to put twenty thirty points on the board right now.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: We're not sure we have to do that. That's how
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: great they're playing defensively. So I like where they're at.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I like where they're at greed, I like them getting
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: a bye. I like how healthy they are, and yeah,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I think that I think we're ready for this and
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: everybody else can fight it out. This weekend. We'll ask
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Ryan Leaf about it. We'll ask them about that Rams
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Panthers game. We'll even talk a little college football with
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: the Washington Koog's legend next at seven oh five, right
• 40:00
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