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- 1:13Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome back to the Financial Exchange. It's Mike,
- 1:17Speaker 2: Mark and Tucker with you on the unofficial kickoff of
- 1:22Speaker 2: summer here. And we've got a shortened trading week from
- 1:25Speaker 2: the Memorial Day holiday weekend. But stocks are surging on
- 1:29Speaker 2: this Tuesday on rumors of in Iranian ceasefire. There is
- 1:35Speaker 2: a ceasefire in place that's not being adhered too, so
- 1:37Speaker 2: I don't know why we use that word, given that
- 1:39Speaker 2: we exchanged strikes last night, but we're still calling it
- 1:43Speaker 2: a ceasefire, which I like. And both the President and
- 1:50Speaker 2: Marco Ruby have talked about progress towards a deal here
- 1:54Speaker 2: with Iran. How close we are I think nobody knows
- 1:58Speaker 2: unless they are actually in the otiating room, and even
- 2:01Speaker 2: then you might not be all that certain of how
- 2:02Speaker 2: close we are on a prolonged deal here. With the
- 2:06Speaker 2: primary focus of getting traffic moving through the strait of
- 2:09Speaker 2: horror moves economically, that's the big goal. Obviously, the President
- 2:12Speaker 2: has a very clear goal of prohibiting around from ever
- 2:17Speaker 2: developing nuclear weapons. But in terms of the economic goal
- 2:21Speaker 2: that the markets are worried about is when do gas
- 2:23Speaker 2: prices come back down? When can get fertilizer, aluminument of
- 2:26Speaker 2: everything else out of the Middle East.
- 2:27Speaker 3: The President has done an amazingly good job at keeping
- 2:30Speaker 3: stock prices elevated and oil prices down. I'm not sure
- 2:34Speaker 3: if that's conducive to political solution because it exposes our vulnerability,
- 2:42Speaker 3: our economic vulnerability. By that, I mean, we're so eager
- 2:46Speaker 3: to keep the economy going and oil prices down that
- 2:51Speaker 3: it limits how far we're willing to go militarily and politically.
- 2:55Speaker 3: So I just want to talk about the market part
- 2:57Speaker 3: of it, which is a pretty remarkable to me, given
- 3:01Speaker 3: that outcomes here could have been bad. They may still
- 3:05Speaker 3: be bad, sure, but markets are pricing in so to speak,
- 3:08Speaker 3: seemingly unless this is just an average and the good
- 3:12Speaker 3: outcome is even better than we've experienced. But markets seem
- 3:16Speaker 3: to be pricing in a pretty seamless transition.
- 3:20Speaker 2: It's a point I have no idea if we're going
- 3:22Speaker 2: to reach a deal here with anything, but that's.
- 3:24Speaker 3: Why I was trying to avoid that. I just wanted
- 3:26Speaker 3: to comment on where we are in markets today.
- 3:28Speaker 2: But I think that's an important point because you know,
- 3:31Speaker 2: oftentimes to get a deal done between two parties that
- 3:35Speaker 2: do not like each other a whole lot. Both parties
- 3:38Speaker 2: need to be facing pressure of some sort, and I
- 3:40Speaker 2: just don't really see.
- 3:41Speaker 4: What pressure the Trump administration is facing right now.
- 3:44Speaker 3: Economics. They've got elections coming, it's all domestic. Then we're
- 3:47Speaker 3: not faced with serious military on it.
- 3:49Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about economic pressures, but even those I
- 3:52Speaker 2: wouldn't describe as insurmountably bad.
- 3:55Speaker 4: Stocks are at all time highs.
- 3:56Speaker 2: Gas prices are high, but not at a point where
- 4:00Speaker 2: where I think it is genuinely breaking the bad year
- 4:02Speaker 2: of a year.
- 4:03Speaker 3: Inflation coming at almost four percent, we had it, We
- 4:06Speaker 3: had it down to two and a half a year ago.
- 4:07Speaker 4: I'm with you, okay, And maybe that's.
- 4:10Speaker 3: More of a fetish of mind than the average person.
- 4:12Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 4:12Speaker 2: I just don't see again. Stock prices at all time highs.
- 4:17Speaker 4: We are not in a nobody I hate to break
- 4:20Speaker 4: it to you.
- 4:20Speaker 3: I know this is a finance show. Nobody gives a crap.
- 4:23Speaker 3: They just we assume that stocks will appreciate at somewhere
- 4:27Speaker 3: in the high single to low double digits. I assume
- 4:30Speaker 3: that's like my birthright, assuming we don't screw up our institutions.
- 4:34Speaker 3: I don't give a politician, I didn't give Biden credit
- 4:37Speaker 3: for the for the twenty eight and twenty six percent
- 4:40Speaker 3: returns in the last two years of his term. I
- 4:42Speaker 3: didn't give Trump credit necessarily for the sixteen or seventeen
- 4:46Speaker 3: percent we got last year. I expect to be rewarded
- 4:50Speaker 3: for putting my dollars at risk. I expect the president
- 4:52Speaker 3: to not get in the way.
- 4:53Speaker 2: So when people say that they vote with their wallets,
- 4:56Speaker 2: you don't think that stock price is part of that
- 4:58Speaker 2: wallet consideration.
- 5:00Speaker 3: May have been in the eighties and nineties, I don't
- 5:02Speaker 3: believe it is any longer. Look at how popular the
- 5:04Speaker 3: previous regime was. Biden presided over excellent stock market returns.
- 5:08Speaker 3: They were as good in a cumulative sense before inflation now,
- 5:12Speaker 3: and this is important as Trump's were in his first term,
- 5:15Speaker 3: and way better than anything we saw under Say, I
- 5:17Speaker 3: don't know, George w not better than Barack Obama anyway, No, Mike,
- 5:23Speaker 3: I don't think they do. I think they look at
- 5:25Speaker 3: the things that you and Chuck talk about a lot here,
- 5:26Speaker 3: which is stagnant real wages in this case over the
- 5:30Speaker 3: past year, negative real wage growth, and they of course
- 5:34Speaker 3: the price of gasoline and food. The conspicuous stuff I don't.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Look, I'll continue to argue that I don't think that
- 5:40Speaker 2: there's been a tremendous amount of economic pressure on the
- 5:43Speaker 2: White House to make a deal here.
- 5:44Speaker 4: Unemployment remains low, gas prices are high.
- 5:46Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's why else would he be so eager,
- 5:50Speaker 3: the president to make They clearly view Iran, the threat
- 5:54Speaker 3: from Iran as a threat to our very existence. What
- 5:59Speaker 3: is stop them from being more aggressive there? It's it's
- 6:02Speaker 3: the potential economic pain, I think. And by the way,
- 6:05Speaker 3: that's a good thing. The purpose of war is what
- 6:08Speaker 3: exactly to make everybody better off in the long run, Like,
- 6:11Speaker 3: what's the point if we're all very poor?
- 6:15Speaker 4: Like I don't.
- 6:16Speaker 3: I don't like, what's the point of a well executed war?
- 6:18Speaker 3: But if we're worse off economically?
- 6:21Speaker 4: And the point that you just made, I think is
- 6:23Speaker 4: the important.
- 6:24Speaker 2: The reason that they are fighting is because of potential
- 6:27Speaker 2: economic pain. I don't think that we've experienced the worst
- 6:30Speaker 2: of the economic pain that I might have expected from this.
- 6:32Speaker 3: The President isn't letting on that we have. He says,
- 6:34Speaker 3: you know, it's peanuts, And I don't think about the
- 6:35Speaker 3: average Americans economic welfare, he said, I'm not exaggerating. He
- 6:39Speaker 3: said something like that, and I actually thought that was
- 6:41Speaker 3: like refreshing. He appears to really believe. I might disagree,
- 6:44Speaker 3: but what do I know. That's not really the point here.
- 6:46Speaker 3: He believes that we need to take this. He believes
- 6:49Speaker 3: there's a threat that needs to be removed, regardless of
- 6:51Speaker 3: the economic pain. But he doesn't mean that because he
- 6:54Speaker 3: does watch the stock mark, and he does watch oil prices,
- 6:57Speaker 3: and he should.
- 6:58Speaker 4: In early trading so far, we've got to split market
- 7:00Speaker 4: right now.
- 7:01Speaker 2: The Dow Jones Industrial average is off seventy one points,
- 7:03Speaker 2: which makes me continue to believe that the Dow signifies
- 7:06Speaker 2: almost nothing. The S and P five hundred is up
- 7:08Speaker 2: fifty two thirds of percent, of the NASDAK up one
- 7:11Speaker 2: point one percent. We've got oil prices falling today about
- 7:15Speaker 2: two point three percent. Keep in mind that's from friday's price,
- 7:18Speaker 2: not yesterday's prices. The market was closed yesterday down to
- 7:22Speaker 2: ninety four dollars per barrel.
- 7:24Speaker 4: Here.
- 7:25Speaker 2: In terms of interest rates, those are falling two. We've
- 7:27Speaker 2: got the ten year treasury yield now sitting at four
- 7:30Speaker 2: and a half percent as we speak here. It's been
- 7:34Speaker 2: on the move upwards since the outbreak of war in Irun,
- 7:37Speaker 2: on that concern over inflation, and taking a look at
- 7:40Speaker 2: a few other markets as they pertain to individual Americans.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Price of gas down a little bit compared to last week,
- 7:47Speaker 2: where we're sitting now at four dollars forty nine cents
- 7:50Speaker 2: a gallon on the national average. And then finally, on
- 7:54Speaker 2: that thirty year fixed rate mortgage that we like to
- 7:56Speaker 2: track so much, hit a high recently on May nineteenth
- 7:59Speaker 2: of six seven. As of the closed Friday six six'
- 8:02Speaker 2: five is where we are on that thirty year mortgage rate.
- 8:06Speaker 2: Mark we've been hearing from young people a lot in
- 8:11Speaker 2: terms of surveys about their pessimism for the job, market,
- 8:15Speaker 2: specifically you, know college graduates looking for that white college.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Job this is a different take on that, story which
- 8:22Speaker 2: is the folks over At Challenger gray And christmas describing
- 8:26Speaker 2: what looks like a terrible summer teen job.
- 8:30Speaker 4: Market and, Yeah i'm just not sure THAT i buy.
- 8:35Speaker 2: It But i'm worried that my own biases are playing
- 8:37Speaker 2: too much into, this because these, days WHENEVER i see
- 8:40Speaker 2: a peace Citing Challenger gray And, CHRISTMAS i tend to
- 8:44Speaker 2: think that the interpretation by.
- 8:46Speaker 4: The media is going to be.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Overblown Because Challenger gray And christmas is the one that
- 8:49Speaker 2: has been telling us about all of these looming layoffs
- 8:52Speaker 2: that have been coming for the last three years that
- 8:54Speaker 2: have really done nothing to increase the unemployment. Rate and
- 8:58Speaker 2: so they do cite some surveys that they have saying
- 9:02Speaker 2: that employers in the entertainment and leisure sector plan to
- 9:05Speaker 2: fill seventy percent fewer roles this year than last, year
- 9:08Speaker 2: which would be a tremendous drop in teenage. Employment and
- 9:12Speaker 2: yet WHEN i look at the actual data we have
- 9:16Speaker 2: on the unemployment rate for sixteen to nineteen year, olds
- 9:22Speaker 2: it's not substantially. High we're lower than we were anytime
- 9:27Speaker 2: in the twenty ten, decade other than starting around twenty
- 9:30Speaker 2: sixteen is when we reach these last. Levels and So
- 9:34Speaker 2: i'm just not sure how to interpret all of this
- 9:36Speaker 2: in terms of whether or not it's truly atrocious out
- 9:38Speaker 2: there for Young but.
- 9:39Speaker 3: If you had to, guess you'd, say, well higher gas,
- 9:40Speaker 3: prices they're probably going to persist through this. Summer more
- 9:44Speaker 3: regular economic growth this year and for that, matter last,
- 9:47Speaker 3: year for lots of different. REASONS i suppose IF i
- 9:51Speaker 3: had to, Guess i'd say fewer people will be working
- 9:55Speaker 3: as a proportion of the teen workforce than in really, heady.
- 10:00Speaker 3: Steady i'm not rhyming, intentionally just the word that comes to,
- 10:02Speaker 3: mind economic growth, Environments, Mike will it be as dramatically
- 10:09Speaker 3: lower as they're forecasting? Here you get to get into,
- 10:12Speaker 3: forecasting you know how very specific parts of the economy
- 10:18Speaker 3: are going to fare over the. SUMMER i mean it
- 10:20Speaker 3: could be a gangbuster summer for, parks in which case
- 10:24Speaker 3: they'll need a lot of people to do.
- 10:26Speaker 4: That, yeah it's an interesting.
- 10:27Speaker 2: QUESTION i, mean, clearly if you are operating the resort
- 10:30Speaker 2: On nantucket and you're dealing with the wealthiest of, wealthy
- 10:34Speaker 2: then you're hiring just as, many if not, more young
- 10:36Speaker 2: teenagers to work that resort than you were.
- 10:38Speaker 4: Last, year no doubt in my.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Mind if you're working the ice cream parlor In, Cranston Rhode, island,
- 10:46Speaker 2: yeah maybe there is some small impact of higher gas
- 10:49Speaker 2: prices making people pull back on that once a week
- 10:53Speaker 2: visit to the ice cream. Shop maybe there are fewer
- 10:56Speaker 2: theme park visits to Six flags because of the higher gas.
- 10:59Speaker 4: Prices i'm not.
- 11:00Speaker 2: SURE i have a really tough time believing that this
- 11:04Speaker 2: is going to be some atrocious hiring season for the summer.
- 11:08Speaker 4: TEENAGERS i don't.
- 11:09Speaker 3: Know i'm not SURE i buy it, Again you've got
- 11:11Speaker 3: to have a very specific forecast about how those particular
- 11:15Speaker 3: how leisure industries are going to. DO i, mean it's
- 11:19Speaker 3: just challenge. It forgive, Me but do they survey employers
- 11:22Speaker 3: or are they doing industry? Forecasts and then.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Just they never seem to tell, Us, okay they do track,
- 11:27Speaker 2: announced they do track announce the layoffs all the. TIME i,
- 11:30Speaker 2: know we cite their data frequently because they have this
- 11:32Speaker 2: layoff tracker Of, hey when companies file the right filings
- 11:36Speaker 2: or make a public, announcement they try and track, it
- 11:39Speaker 2: but then it gets interpreted in all these ways THAT
- 11:41Speaker 2: i feel like doesn't do us any.
- 11:43Speaker 4: Service what we do.
- 11:45Speaker 2: Know as Of april twenty twenty, six according to THE,
- 11:46Speaker 2: bls the sixteen to nineteen year old unemployment rate was
- 11:50Speaker 2: sitting at fourteen point four. Percent that is up from
- 11:54Speaker 2: thirteen percent a year. Ago but AS i pointed, out
- 11:58Speaker 2: in the twenty tens, decade you, know POST, gfc we
- 12:02Speaker 2: had sixteen to nineteen year old employment in the twenty percent.
- 12:05Speaker 2: Range we did not get back to the levels that
- 12:07Speaker 2: we're experiencing now until around twenty, seventeen and SO i
- 12:12Speaker 2: keep going back to these stories of people describing the
- 12:14Speaker 2: worst labor market for people that we've seen in, decades
- 12:18Speaker 2: AND i keep finding data that tells me it was
- 12:22Speaker 2: way worse in the early twenty tens than pretty much
- 12:24Speaker 2: any time that we've ever. Experienced So i'm just unsure.
- 12:27Speaker 4: Of what to do with all. That but if, YOU
- 12:30Speaker 4: i will, SAY i am. INTERESTED i don't have.
- 12:32Speaker 2: TEENAGERS i don't know what it's like out there for
- 12:34Speaker 2: kids trying to find jobs right. Now if you have,
- 12:36Speaker 2: experience you feel free to text the. Show i'm always
- 12:39Speaker 2: curious sixty one seven three six two thirteen eighty Five
- 12:42Speaker 2: what does the labor market actually look like for sixteen
- 12:45Speaker 2: year olds out? There if you're a small, business are
- 12:49Speaker 2: you having a tough time finding? Them are you easily
- 12:51Speaker 2: filling the jobs with tons of? Applications because that's what
- 12:53Speaker 2: this piece from the journal seems to, indicate is, that you,
- 12:56Speaker 2: know if the town has one hundred summer jobs open
- 13:00Speaker 2: for lifeguards and, such they're getting three hundred applications and you,
- 13:03Speaker 2: know way way over applied to and a big increase
- 13:08Speaker 2: in people looking for those. Jobs but, yeah if you
- 13:12Speaker 2: have any take on this again six one, seven three,
- 13:14Speaker 2: six two thirteen.
- 13:15Speaker 3: Eight and if you are going To cranston to an
- 13:16Speaker 3: ice cream, SHOP i want to know what's your favorite,
- 13:18Speaker 3: flavor eggplant or.
- 13:20Speaker 2: Zucchini oh that that's the top ones over In. CRANSTON
- 13:23Speaker 2: i think.
- 13:23Speaker 4: So, YEAH i hear. You Rhode island's.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Different let's take a quick break when we come back
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- 14:08Speaker 5: average of industrial, stocks known as The Dow Jones Industrial.
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- 15:06Speaker 5: we did get several texts into that same. Number regarding
- 15:11Speaker 5: the teen summer jobs, question you pose their mic in
- 15:15Speaker 5: the previous, Segment.
- 15:16Speaker 4: Is it the same old teenagers are lazy and don't want.
- 15:18Speaker 3: To, now let's just go through them real, quick all?
- 15:20Speaker 5: Right eight SIX tozh saying ALL i ever hear from
- 15:24Speaker 5: employers is kids don't want to. Work FIVE o ways,
- 15:28Speaker 5: says gone are the days of kids looking for work
- 15:30Speaker 5: parents post On facebook rather than the youngsters actually making an.
- 15:35Speaker 5: EFFORT i don't know what that, means THOUGH i do see.
- 15:39Speaker 4: That parents posting for their kids looking for. Work ALL i,
- 15:43Speaker 4: SEE i. SEE i don't know how much of that is.
- 15:45Speaker 2: Them probably a lot of it is them, babying BUT
- 15:47Speaker 2: i think a good twenty percent of it is teenagers
- 15:50Speaker 2: don't Have facebook.
- 15:51Speaker 4: Accounts BUT i could be.
- 15:52Speaker 3: WRONG a you're gonna read the one about?
- 15:54Speaker 4: It?
- 15:54Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah another text out of the six one seven my.
- 15:57Speaker 5: Wife my wife works in a movie. Theater plenty of
- 16:01Speaker 5: jobs plus free. Movies the problem is they meaning the
- 16:04Speaker 5: young workers are unreliable and there are different rules for
- 16:08Speaker 5: minors nine seven, eight sixteen year. Old So i'm working
- 16:11Speaker 5: fifteen hours a week AT.
- 16:12Speaker 4: Dq there you, go they, go but.
- 16:18Speaker 3: You get free. Movies is this?
- 16:19Speaker 5: True apparently that's a great person like.
- 16:22Speaker 4: THAT i think my cousin got fired from a dairy queen.
- 16:24Speaker 3: Once why wouldn't you just take like a, weekend get
- 16:26Speaker 3: a job at a theater for the weekend.
- 16:28Speaker 4: And seems like a lot of work to apply to.
- 16:32Speaker 2: You it does submit YOUR w two's and, yeah you
- 16:35Speaker 2: get your paychecked for one weekend of free.
- 16:38Speaker 4: Movies BUT i could be.
- 16:39Speaker 2: WRONG i guess you know, What at, SIXTEEN i did
- 16:41Speaker 2: not have a lot going, on so that would have
- 16:42Speaker 2: been worth the.
- 16:43Speaker 3: Effort it seems like an.
- 16:43Speaker 5: Ideal jeremy out Of Vineyard haven says the report about
- 16:47Speaker 5: summer hiring at least WHERE i live on the, vineyard
- 16:50Speaker 5: so there you, go is totally out of. Base it's
- 16:53Speaker 5: harder than ever to get workers in the. SUMMER i
- 16:55Speaker 5: myself have a small business and have three employees that
- 16:59Speaker 5: come over dal from the.
- 17:00Speaker 2: MAINLAND i, mean, YEAH i wonder what the going hourly
- 17:05Speaker 2: rate is for, yeah summer workers On nantucket And Martha's,
- 17:10Speaker 2: VINEYARD i mean minimum waging. Masters this is fifteen bucks an,
- 17:13Speaker 2: Hour like you wouldn't be surprised to hear it's nearly
- 17:15Speaker 2: double that on you, know those places with limited.
- 17:18Speaker 4: Supply.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Yeah, AGAIN i think there are parts of the country
- 17:22Speaker 2: that are clearly hurting right now where the employment's going
- 17:26Speaker 2: to be. Down But i'm just not buying it's going
- 17:28Speaker 2: to be the worst summer for teenager employment in multiple.
- 17:32Speaker 4: Decades but, yeah there is something about these current.
- 17:35Speaker 2: Teenagers they sure are lazy and don't Use, Facebook so screw.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Them that's our, job Right i'm in my thirties, now
- 17:44Speaker 2: so my job is to bash on the fifteen year.
- 17:46Speaker 4: OLDS i, mean.
- 17:47Speaker 5: It's Like chuck, says all the, time every generation complains
- 17:50Speaker 5: about the previous. Generation so, like, LIKE i feel like
- 17:54Speaker 5: we're always having the conversation with kids.
- 17:55Speaker 3: Don't want to work.
- 17:56Speaker 4: Anymore, fairly years.
- 17:58Speaker 2: Ago we were on that, coment, fairly and that the
- 18:00Speaker 2: greatest generation was pretty pissed that all of those hippies
- 18:06Speaker 2: at seventeen year old years old were going to woodstock
- 18:08Speaker 2: instead of working their summer jobs at the. Factory so
- 18:11Speaker 2: Fair i'm fairly certain that this is a generational. Consistency
- 18:14Speaker 2: but MAYBE i could be. Wrong speaking of, youngsters they
- 18:17Speaker 2: don't want to buy, SUVs in a potential disastrous scenario
- 18:22Speaker 2: FOR us auto. Manufacturers i'm not sure if there's any staying.
- 18:25Speaker 2: Power there's been a few surveys, that you, know young
- 18:28Speaker 2: people gen Z, ers for, instance don't want the.
- 18:31Speaker 4: Suv they're looking for a sedan.
- 18:33Speaker 2: Instead part of, that obviously is, cost because SUVs are you,
- 18:38Speaker 2: know average cost to compact SUVs at like thirty seven to,
- 18:41Speaker 2: five whereas a sedan compact is like twenty eight, Grand
- 18:44Speaker 2: so part of its. Cost BUT i think there could
- 18:46Speaker 2: be something. Too my parents always drove that ugly. SUV
- 18:51Speaker 2: i don't want. One it happened with mini, vans maybe
- 18:54Speaker 2: it's going to happen with the COMPACT suv. Two of,
- 18:58Speaker 2: no this was always the car that my mom d
- 19:00Speaker 2: me to soccer practice. IN i don't want to be
- 19:02Speaker 2: seen driving A crv or you, know one of these
- 19:05Speaker 2: immensely popular cars, now and maybe we will.
- 19:08Speaker 4: Be reverting back To sedan's.
- 19:11Speaker 2: OR i, mean minivans are undergoing a surge right now in,
- 19:15Speaker 2: popularity so maybe we are set for something different from
- 19:18Speaker 2: the gen zs who don't seem to be responding well to.
- 19:22Speaker 2: SUVs but, AGAIN i will also point out that they
- 19:24Speaker 2: probably just can't afford.
- 19:26Speaker 4: Them and that might be the biggest contributing. Factor Quick
- 19:29Speaker 4: Break Wall street watches next.
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- 20:01Speaker 5: Our markets are mixed as traders return from the holiday
- 20:03Speaker 5: weekend amid the Fragile cy's fire between THE us AND
- 20:06Speaker 5: i ran AFTER us And iranian forces clashed. Overnight, however
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- 20:14Speaker 5: now The dow is down about a quarter, PERCENT smp
- 20:17Speaker 5: five hundred is up six ten seven, PERCENT nasdac up
- 20:20Speaker 5: over one percent, HIGHER russ two thousand is up about
- 20:22Speaker 5: one and a half, Percent tenor trais, reeled is down
- 20:25Speaker 5: six basis points at four point five zero, percent And
- 20:29Speaker 5: oil down over two, percent trading a ninety four dollars a.
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- 21:56Speaker 2: COM a financial advisor out Of pennsylvania recently posted on
- 22:00Speaker 2: social media about saving for retirement and the point he
- 22:04Speaker 2: was making is not exactly news but a true, one
- 22:08Speaker 2: which is there's dual benefits to saving more for. Retirement
- 22:12Speaker 2: one is that you are saving more for retirement and
- 22:15Speaker 2: you're going to need to spend those dollars. Someday the
- 22:17Speaker 2: second is that you are getting used to living on less.
- 22:20Speaker 2: Income right if you boost your retirement saving them from
- 22:22Speaker 2: ten to fifteen, percent unless you've got a big increase
- 22:26Speaker 2: in your, wages you are living off of less money
- 22:28Speaker 2: and training.
- 22:28Speaker 4: Yourself to do.
- 22:29Speaker 2: SO i do get the question frequently about what's the
- 22:35Speaker 2: right amount for me to be saving for, retirement and
- 22:38Speaker 2: ten percent has been kind of thrown out there in
- 22:41Speaker 2: our industry as a goal to get. Towards, right like
- 22:45Speaker 2: saving ten percent of your. Income if you do so over,
- 22:47Speaker 2: Time i've seen it sighted like a good formula to
- 22:51Speaker 2: gets you.
- 22:51Speaker 4: To a comfortable.
- 22:52Speaker 2: Retirement What i'll also say is one of the most
- 22:55Speaker 2: common goals THAT i hear from folks in the workforce
- 22:59Speaker 2: IS i don't want to work until my full retirement
- 23:01Speaker 2: age of sixty. SEVEN i want to be able to retire.
- 23:04Speaker 2: Early and What i'm comfortable saying there is if that's your,
- 23:07Speaker 2: goal then in all, likelihoods saving just ten percent of
- 23:10Speaker 2: your income is unlikely to get you. There but, look
- 23:13Speaker 2: there are all different ways of doing this. Right, obviously
- 23:16Speaker 2: the most common one is the four to ONE k.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Plan But i've seen plenty of people be successful by
- 23:22Speaker 2: saving for retirement by investing in real estate because that's
- 23:26Speaker 2: what they. Do they, Do, Like, YEAH i love flipping
- 23:29Speaker 2: homes and being a, landlord AND i do that in
- 23:32Speaker 2: addition to my day. Job and that's a perfectly reasonable
- 23:35Speaker 2: way to build for. Retirement plenty of people can see
- 23:40Speaker 2: the value In, yeah you, know WHEN i make an
- 23:42Speaker 2: income off of real estate combined with the expected, appreciation
- 23:46Speaker 2: even if there's not much, there plus the DEPRECIATION i
- 23:48Speaker 2: get to write off of my, Taxes i've saved for
- 23:51Speaker 2: retirement that. WAY i think the point THAT i would
- 23:54Speaker 2: make about all of this is there is not a
- 23:57Speaker 2: one size fits all approach to how you save for
- 23:59Speaker 2: a time. Retirement but if you think you're going to
- 24:02Speaker 2: get there by putting away five to ten percent of
- 24:05Speaker 2: your income for the rest of your career and then
- 24:07Speaker 2: retiring at fifty five years, old it's not likely to
- 24:12Speaker 2: do it unless you are planning to dramatically reshape your
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- 24:34Speaker 2: is setting aside. More it's always. Tricky you, know what
- 24:38Speaker 2: vehicle DO i? Use SHOULD i be putting into the
- 24:40Speaker 2: four oh ONE. K DO i need a non retirement
- 24:43Speaker 2: bucket of money to save up BECAUSE i want to
- 24:45Speaker 2: be done with work earlier than. Anticipated all of those
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- 25:22Speaker 2: MARK i feel Like i've been bemoaning gambling now for
- 25:26Speaker 2: the last couple of years, Here but there's a piece
- 25:29Speaker 2: over the weekend in The New York times title The
- 25:32Speaker 2: Average guys Out Smarting.
- 25:34Speaker 4: Wall street on Prediction markets and.
- 25:37Speaker 2: INTERVIEWS a whole bunch of average mostly guys for that,
- 25:42Speaker 2: matter who are talking about their bets that they've had
- 25:46Speaker 2: success on AND i got to tell you the way
- 25:52Speaker 2: that it is being, discussed at least in this, article
- 25:56Speaker 2: as well as the Way i'm hearing people talking about
- 25:58Speaker 2: these places Like Paul market And, calshi where you can
- 26:01Speaker 2: place what our futures contracts.
- 26:04Speaker 4: Bets but they are.
- 26:06Speaker 2: Bets they are not investments in a. Company they are
- 26:11Speaker 2: basically you gambling a yes or no on an outcome
- 26:16Speaker 2: that is. Measurable and my concern with, it by and
- 26:21Speaker 2: large is that the way it's being discussed, is, hey
- 26:27Speaker 2: look how Well i'm, investing, when in my, opinion the
- 26:32Speaker 2: people who have done really, well it's look how GOOD
- 26:35Speaker 2: i have done at? Gambling AND i think that we
- 26:38Speaker 2: are getting closer and closer to confusing the.
- 26:40Speaker 3: Two maybe it's always been a fine. Line if you
- 26:43Speaker 3: Own tesla, stock you're the reason for owning it is
- 26:49Speaker 3: in part the hope that must can conjure up profits
- 26:53Speaker 3: out of and he might be able to out of
- 26:55Speaker 3: sort of thin. Air it's always been outrageously. Valued is
- 26:58Speaker 3: that an investment or is it a, speculation a? GAMBLE
- 27:02Speaker 3: i don't know how to characterize.
- 27:03Speaker 2: That, likewise if you're, betting if you're investing in, gold
- 27:07Speaker 2: is it anything more than a, gamble, right it's a
- 27:09Speaker 2: non generative asset if you're betting on oil prices or something,
- 27:14Speaker 2: along you, know investing on oil. Futures is that anything
- 27:17Speaker 2: more than a? GAMBLE i would argue probably. Not but
- 27:22Speaker 2: this sure does feel a lot different the way in
- 27:26Speaker 2: which people are talking about this, stuff, RIGHT i mean
- 27:29Speaker 2: the very first second, paragraph how much will The fed
- 27:32Speaker 2: cut rates next? Month well the government shut? Down well
- 27:34Speaker 2: it did AND i lost an entire month's. Rent that really.
- 27:37Speaker 2: Hurt that's how people are using some of these. Sites
- 27:41Speaker 2: and in, fact some of these, sites LIKE i don't
- 27:43Speaker 2: remember if it Was polymarket Or, calci in fact advertised
- 27:47Speaker 2: recently about how you can try and make your rent
- 27:51Speaker 2: payment by winning bets on one of these gambling. Sites
- 27:55Speaker 2: and again they're not gambling sites because the states don't get.
- 27:58Speaker 4: To regulate them as such because their. Futures but.
- 28:03Speaker 2: Pieces like, this they are not just gushing over the
- 28:06Speaker 2: people who made a bunch of money on. Them they
- 28:09Speaker 2: are talking about the opposite stories two of the hordes
- 28:12Speaker 2: of people who have lost tremendous amounts of money on.
- 28:15Speaker 2: Them but they do interview a bunch of people who
- 28:17Speaker 2: have made a lot of money on these, sites AND
- 28:19Speaker 2: i got to tell, you it's no different than interviewing
- 28:23Speaker 2: that one off guy who made money at Mohegan son one,
- 28:27Speaker 2: time while ignoring all of the people who are depressed
- 28:32Speaker 2: and drinking too much because they lost a whole bunch
- 28:34Speaker 2: of money at Mohegan. Son and we seem to just
- 28:36Speaker 2: be as always fascinating over the rare winners on.
- 28:40Speaker 3: These out and they are. Rare unlike, stocks for the most,
- 28:43Speaker 3: part these propositions are zero sun.
- 28:48Speaker 4: Explain what that's exactly where every DOLLAR.
- 28:51Speaker 3: I win comes from somebody else's Losseslike unlike passive, management
- 28:57Speaker 3: active management is. Different if you make an active management,
- 29:00Speaker 3: bet there's somebody on the other. Side and WHEN i
- 29:02Speaker 3: mean active, MANAGEMENT i mean owning something in a proportion
- 29:05Speaker 3: different from what it's held. In and say THE s
- 29:07Speaker 3: AND p having twenty percent of your portfolio And apple or,
- 29:10Speaker 3: something and maybe you. Do i'm not commenting on. That
- 29:13Speaker 3: i'm just saying you're making an active, bet and your
- 29:15Speaker 3: gains will come at the expenses of somebody who's Underweighting
- 29:18Speaker 3: apple because there's only so much of it to go,
- 29:20Speaker 3: Around whereas this stuff is inherently zero some for every,
- 29:24Speaker 3: winner there's a, loser there's no net.
- 29:26Speaker 2: Gain, now it's different than a casino in that same,
- 29:28Speaker 2: way because there isn't the house betting against. You it
- 29:31Speaker 2: is other peer to peers betting against. You so it's
- 29:35Speaker 2: not that you, know the casino is taking the other
- 29:38Speaker 2: side of the.
- 29:38Speaker 3: Bet, well it's still zero. Sum it's just it is
- 29:40Speaker 3: Still zero's the question of who's very loss or who's
- 29:44Speaker 3: financing your? Gain, Yea and part of, me you, know
- 29:47Speaker 3: as a, LIBERTARIAN i say this is how people want
- 29:49Speaker 3: to spend their time and. Money who AM i to
- 29:52Speaker 3: say that's? Wrong part of me. Acknowledge at the same, time,
- 29:55Speaker 3: though you can condemn it and say this is, unproductive
- 29:58Speaker 3: biggest mistake the state's ever. Made to unleash this type of.
- 30:02Speaker 3: Stuff you cannot Watch you cannot watch sports without being
- 30:06Speaker 3: inundated with inducements to bet on every conceivable aspect of
- 30:11Speaker 3: whatever it is you're. WATCHING i find that a little bit. Nauseating,
- 30:14Speaker 3: yeah but apparently a lot of people. Don't it's the
- 30:16Speaker 3: world we live in.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Now.
- 30:17Speaker 2: YEAH i tend to be in the party of legalize
- 30:19Speaker 2: at tax it and move along. HERE i do acknowledge
- 30:25Speaker 2: that there seems to be a real problem with young,
- 30:27Speaker 2: people specifically young, men losing a boatload.
- 30:29Speaker 4: Of money on.
- 30:29Speaker 2: This AND i do just generally worry about the risk
- 30:33Speaker 2: longer term to financial markets if there is more and
- 30:37Speaker 2: more confusion AND i guess mixing between what is investing
- 30:43Speaker 2: and what is gambling because already big market players are
- 30:48Speaker 2: wanting to incorporate this stuff into Robin, Hood, Schwab, fidelity.
- 30:54Speaker 3: Etc don't think so you can do it all on
- 30:55Speaker 3: the same. PLATFORM i mean you go, in you trade
- 30:57Speaker 3: your retirement, account and you make a bet on one.
- 31:00Speaker 3: Tie Kevin warrish is going to be where at the
- 31:02Speaker 3: NEXT fed.
- 31:02Speaker 2: Meeting, YEAH i do not like that, mixing and not
- 31:06Speaker 2: everybody's okay with, that but some of the you, know
- 31:09Speaker 2: early movers Like, robinhood are very rapidly becoming okay.
- 31:12Speaker 3: With it's gonna this isn't gonna end. Well obviously the
- 31:14Speaker 3: wheel's going to. Turn this stuff will be illegal again
- 31:16Speaker 3: in five. Years just give it a little bit of,
- 31:18Speaker 3: time quick.
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- 32:13Speaker 2: Button we continue to follow the events coming out Of.
- 32:18Speaker 2: Ran the, latest according to reporting from The Wall Street,
- 32:21Speaker 2: journal is That aron's warns of retaliation after THE us strikes.
- 32:27Speaker 2: Again who's saying it at what? Time is always of.
- 32:30Speaker 2: Interest oil prices moving slightly higher on that. News starting this,
- 32:36Speaker 2: morning we were down as low as ninety one ninety
- 32:41Speaker 2: two dollars per. Barrel as of six. Am we're now
- 32:44Speaker 2: sitting at about ninety four dollars a. Barrel stocks to you,
- 32:48Speaker 2: know giving up some of their gains. Here The nasdaq
- 32:51Speaker 2: was up over one percent now up a TENSE smp
- 32:53Speaker 2: up now a little bit less than half a percent
- 32:56Speaker 2: in early, Trading so we will keep your praise as
- 33:00Speaker 2: things developed. There, mark what do you have for us
- 33:02Speaker 2: for Stack.
- 33:03Speaker 3: Roulette did we talk about inflation? Expectation i'm sorry this is,
- 33:07Speaker 3: dry BUT i couldn't find anything.
- 33:09Speaker 4: We talk ABOUT i want. EXCITED i don't know that we.
- 33:12Speaker 3: Did, Okay so inflation, expectations and there are lots of
- 33:16Speaker 3: different ways to measure, them and lots of different institutions do.
- 33:20Speaker 3: It but they've been creeping, up not not, well shooting.
- 33:23Speaker 4: Up creeping is not just describing.
- 33:25Speaker 3: It, yeah, sure, YEAH i don't think IT'S i don't
- 33:27Speaker 3: think it quite captures the little spike that we've. Experienced
- 33:30Speaker 3: maybe they'll come back down if oil. Does in, fact
- 33:32Speaker 3: they probably, will but and we've talked about why that's
- 33:35Speaker 3: a problem for THE. Fed these expectations can become self.
- 33:37Speaker 3: Fulfilling bloomberg has a story Today Bill, dudley former, governor
- 33:42Speaker 3: a former president of The New York, fed and, uh
- 33:46Speaker 3: sort of an. Illuminary he's a really respected, researcher he points,
- 33:51Speaker 3: out and it's worth remembering that THE fed as a
- 33:55Speaker 3: two percent long term, target haven't hit it in nearly six.
- 33:59Speaker 3: Years so if you believe so called anchored, expectations simply,
- 34:05Speaker 3: put we believe that THE fed will achieve its target
- 34:09Speaker 3: if we all believe, that or on, average we believe.
- 34:11Speaker 3: It you could say expectations are. Anchored that makes The
- 34:13Speaker 3: fed's job. Easier it makes it easier for them to
- 34:14Speaker 3: get inflation down because they're. Credible we. Haven't inflation has
- 34:19Speaker 3: averaged about four percent this, decade twice The fed's. Goal
- 34:22Speaker 3: haven't hit The fed's goal in several. Years we've got
- 34:26Speaker 3: a chairman coming in whose credibility is compromised by recent
- 34:31Speaker 3: will show we, say political. Events does anybody really Believe
- 34:36Speaker 3: i'll just ask this as sort of a rhetorical, question
- 34:39Speaker 3: that THE fed will achieve its target anytime. Soon even
- 34:41Speaker 3: financial markets don't seem to believe. It the break even
- 34:45Speaker 3: inflation rate that you can back out using inflation protected
- 34:48Speaker 3: treasuries and conventional treasuries is about two and a half
- 34:51Speaker 3: percent over a ten year. Period prospects just don't seem
- 34:55Speaker 3: good for getting anything close to getting inflation anywhere down
- 34:58Speaker 3: to two percent on average over the intermediate.
- 35:01Speaker 2: Term practically, speaking here just a few thoughts That i'll.
- 35:05Speaker 4: OFFER i don't know where inflation is.
- 35:07Speaker 2: Going my suspicions are that they'll it'll be higher than
- 35:10Speaker 2: it was the last few. Decades other than the implication
- 35:14Speaker 2: of people hate high. Inflation the other One i'll point
- 35:18Speaker 2: out is that if you are planning for your own
- 35:22Speaker 2: future and you're using inflation assumptions from the last three
- 35:26Speaker 2: decades or stock assumptions from the last three, decades they
- 35:29Speaker 2: could be completely useless now and the inflation Was like
- 35:35Speaker 2: people always focus on the piece about you, know what
- 35:40Speaker 2: happens if the stock market.
- 35:42Speaker 4: Crashes i'm worried about.
- 35:43Speaker 2: That they tend to not nearly focus enough on what
- 35:47Speaker 2: happens if inflation just creeps, up you, know over my
- 35:51Speaker 2: lifetime an extra percentage point compared to What i'm. Expecting
- 35:54Speaker 2: how devastating is that to my financial. Scenario compared to
- 35:57Speaker 2: a forty percent stock market. CRASH i recognize that one
- 36:00Speaker 2: of them seems scarier than the. OTHER a forty percent market,
- 36:04Speaker 2: crash to, me seems scarier on the surface because it's,
- 36:06Speaker 2: immediate it usually happens pretty. Quickly one percent higher inflation
- 36:11Speaker 2: for lifetime is far more damaging in all likelihood than
- 36:15Speaker 2: that one time market.
- 36:16Speaker 3: Pullback so, yeah price is double roughly. Twice.
- 36:19Speaker 2: Sorry Good if you're planning for your future and not
- 36:21Speaker 2: pricing in higher, inflation, sorry go. Ahead what you're saying
- 36:24Speaker 2: like it is. Devastating to thought it's. Devastating that's interesting
- 36:28Speaker 2: the way you put.
- 36:29Speaker 3: That the real threat is higher, inflation not a temporary
- 36:32Speaker 3: setback in stock. Price, yeah nobody thinks that, way, right
- 36:36Speaker 3: everybody freaks. Out you're absolutely. Right that's a really good.
- 36:38Speaker 3: Insight you should be a final shally have financial planning.
- 36:41Speaker 2: For the speaking of inflation. EXPECTATIONS i don't know exactly
- 36:47Speaker 2: who this information is for that The Wall Street journal
- 36:50Speaker 2: decided to, publish but it is moving the company's. Stocks
- 36:53Speaker 2: So ferrari has announced that they are launching a six
- 36:56Speaker 2: hundred and forty thousand Dollars. Joni i've designed glass clad
- 37:01Speaker 2: electric speedster that you can only really afford if you
- 37:06Speaker 2: were one of those people that arrived In nantucket on
- 37:08Speaker 2: your private jet this. Weekend so if you're listening, now
- 37:11Speaker 2: tune in because it's you, know a six hundred and
- 37:13Speaker 2: forty thousand Dollars. Ferrari take it by the studio, Please,
- 37:16Speaker 2: Yeah i'd love to see. It, nonetheless investors In ferrari
- 37:20Speaker 2: don't seem all that. Enthusiastic they're driving the stock price
- 37:23Speaker 2: down five and a quarter percent.
- 37:25Speaker 4: Today so, again if you are in the market for
- 37:27Speaker 4: a new ev.
- 37:30Speaker 2: And happened to make a few million dollars a, year
- 37:34Speaker 2: then this might be the one that that's what they.
- 37:37Speaker 3: Do they make very few copies of very profitable. Cars
- 37:40Speaker 3: what were they. EXPECTING i don't know if today's share
- 37:43Speaker 3: price action has anything to do with.
- 37:45Speaker 2: That, YEAH i don't know if it's just because it's
- 37:46Speaker 2: ugly or the sticker, price but.
- 37:48Speaker 4: In either, case investors didn't like.
- 37:50Speaker 2: It they, DON'T i, mean what's a regunny on everyone
- 37:52Speaker 2: that they? See what's the minimum you can spell on
- 37:53Speaker 2: a spend on A? Ferrari quarter million?
- 37:56Speaker 4: Dollars? Yeah so this isn't that, crazy is?
- 37:58Speaker 2: IT i.
- 38:00Speaker 4: Don't this is that.
- 38:00Speaker 2: Nuts markets are open in mixed territory the now as
- 38:04Speaker 2: we close in on the noon, hour off a quarter
- 38:06Speaker 2: of a, PERCENT smp holding on to, gains but only
- 38:09Speaker 2: now up a third of a, percent The nasdaq up
- 38:11Speaker 2: two thirds of a.
- 38:12Speaker 4: Percent we'll be back at it. Tomorrow. Folks have a
- 38:14Speaker 4: great rest of your day and keep. Cool