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Matt LaFleur & Rich Bissacia · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: The Boys. Welcome to another episode of Bust with the Boys.
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  Speaker 1: I am your host Will Compton, co host Tayl Lawan.
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  Speaker 1: Now weekend update, it's a fun we can you guys,
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  Speaker 1: Do you guys enjoy your weekend?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Can we get a little bit more? The energy's a
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  Speaker 2: little like low right now.
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  Speaker 1: Like I just told everybody to comment pro vibes or
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  Speaker 1: I'm here for the vibes, like we need to have
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  Speaker 1: some vibes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Monday caught us real quick. Are you tired?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's tired or it's a tough
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  Speaker 4: feeling to describe.
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  Speaker 1: Your boys did go out on Saturday night? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because the group chat was lit up. Group chat was
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  Speaker 1: lit up. Jack, you already knew what vibe he was on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you could feel the energy in the group chat. You too,
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  Speaker 1: you're traveling, You're like, oh, I'm over in this area
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  Speaker 1: of Nashville.
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  Speaker 2: I'm ready to go travel to you guys. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that happened.
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  Speaker 3: It happened.
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  Speaker 4: And then Taylor iris Shaggs did after we said what's
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  Speaker 4: up to each other, he was like, hey, may go
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  Speaker 4: get a drink. Yeah, I could kind of sense what
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  Speaker 4: was about to happen.
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  Speaker 1: So if the game got over with for everybody listening,
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  Speaker 1: the game got over with the Titans one and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the vibes are obviously elite at all times with the boys,
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  Speaker 1: So Taylor was seeing like where everybody was at afterwards,
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  Speaker 1: just to go say what's up apparently, and then Jack
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  Speaker 1: was over at ACME, JP was over.
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  Speaker 2: Was it were you on Demumbrian.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, JP was over in the Dumumbrian area and Taylor
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  Speaker 1: pulls up.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting at home, I forget what I'm watching and
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  Speaker 1: just thinking like, oh, these.
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  Speaker 2: Boys are about to like have a long night.
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  Speaker 3: Oh not really didn't go that way, No, it was.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't a long night. Oh it was.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Did it end up at uh because Taylor had some
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  Speaker 6: friends over at Actne. We were getting some food after
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  Speaker 6: the game, and Uh, Taylor's like, yeah, I'm gonna pull up,
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  Speaker 6: and I was like, yeah, he's not coming.
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  Speaker 5: He just played, but he showed up.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think he was going either. I'm like, do
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  Speaker 2: you really want to go out?
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  Speaker 1: Like I really want to go downtown after a Titans game,
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  Speaker 1: like big doll?
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  Speaker 3: You know, Taylor.
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  Speaker 5: I know That's why I was a little shocked he
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  Speaker 5: was there. But I mean he came, he was a
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  Speaker 5: good sport. We got like a drink and then basically
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  Speaker 5: that was the end of the night. And then yeah
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  Speaker 5: just kind of went it out.
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  Speaker 2: You showed up, you made your way across and then
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  Speaker 2: he dipped.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but uh is to his.
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  Speaker 4: Credit, he came down and he got me. I was
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  Speaker 4: able to skip the line. I got the Taylor lawn treatment,
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  Speaker 4: which huge shout out to him for that.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a ship.
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  Speaker 3: That's just the problem is.
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  Speaker 1: That your shoutout, no free shoutout likes getting to skip
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  Speaker 1: the lion that's in decent.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna have to cut this gidding just added to
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  Speaker 3: the list.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a line.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah no, so shout out of tailor firm looking
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  Speaker 3: it up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the boys they got uh did they win the
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  Speaker 1: first preseason game?
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  Speaker 2: We lost?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, because we were trying to hand him
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  Speaker 1: the first preseason loss ever. Because that matters. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: won like twenty two straight. I love seeing everybody just
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  Speaker 1: argue on the on the internet about it too, Like
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  Speaker 1: it's obviously they got a long streak going. You're going
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  Speaker 1: to shout out the streak and then everybody's oh, oh
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  Speaker 1: if preseason fucking mattered. It's like, hey, I think the
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  Speaker 1: I think Adam Schefter is just trying to deliver, like
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  Speaker 1: just some news for the boys, some positive vibes. Everyone
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  Speaker 1: just gets all up in arms about it. I thought
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  Speaker 1: we would dethrone them. We didn't, but the boys.
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  Speaker 3: Got a dub. They look good.
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  Speaker 2: Taylor, he got to he got to splash a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: He was out there for like six plays.
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  Speaker 1: I had a nice little chuckle because you know, starters,
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  Speaker 1: like when the majority of starters aren't playing in a
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  Speaker 1: preseason game, you obviously don't want to play in the
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  Speaker 1: preseason game either. And when the coach tells you that
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  Speaker 1: you're going like, there's just a part of you that's like, fuck, man, Like, God,
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  Speaker 1: do I really got to go out there for however
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  Speaker 1: many plays I gotta do it. You're like hoping it's
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  Speaker 1: not a full quarter. You know, you don't know how
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  Speaker 1: long it is. You don't want to ask because you
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  Speaker 1: don't want to seem like a bitch, and you.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of just let it ride.
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  Speaker 1: And then right like right before basically like when you're
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  Speaker 1: in the locker room, you just essentially got to brainwash yourself.
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  Speaker 1: And they's just thinking, fuck it, dude, let's go out
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  Speaker 1: here and try to let's go out here and try
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  Speaker 1: to claim a soul, claim a body before I go
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  Speaker 1: out and Uh, the boy played solid. He had you know,
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  Speaker 1: of course six plays he's playing against I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even think he was playing against like the
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  Speaker 1: starters or whatever, but the boys moving the line, of
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  Speaker 1: screen in the run game Clean Pocket.
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  Speaker 2: In the past game, he.
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  Speaker 1: Went out for a play because it looks like his
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  Speaker 1: little finger that he's messed with was like out of
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  Speaker 1: place or dislocated or whatever. But you know, Taylor Dog
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  Speaker 1: goes back in preseason game preseason game at that like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: just say some guys, you get a little you want
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  Speaker 1: something like that to happen. You're like, all right, here's
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  Speaker 1: my fucking out two plays in finger out, Let's get
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  Speaker 1: the fuck out of here.
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  Speaker 2: But the boys a dog. He goes back in.
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  Speaker 1: He tries to like as he's trying to go out
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  Speaker 1: that one play he goes back in. Then he see
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  Speaker 1: old boy block. He's trying to like block with one arm.
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  Speaker 1: I feel supremely confident talking about this too, because I
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  Speaker 1: haven't even really seen Taylor, like I've just we've been
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  Speaker 1: in our group chat and stuff. So it's like one
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  Speaker 1: of those things to where I'm sitting here as I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about him playing in his performance and everything like that,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, oh shit, or is somebody gonna listen
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  Speaker 1: to this and be like, hey, Will shouldn't talk about X,
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  Speaker 1: Y and Z. But it's kind of like fuck it, man, like, yeah, yea,
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  Speaker 1: we do. We went on this bus man. The boy's
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  Speaker 1: not here. It's all clean, it's all good fun. But
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  Speaker 1: the boy's got a w everybody's excited about the Malik
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  Speaker 1: Willas stuff. Yeah, you know, I haven't watched enough tape.
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  Speaker 1: Like after the first quarter happened, I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: what am I doing now?
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  Speaker 3: Jack?
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  Speaker 1: Jack was there like that was like that was you
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  Speaker 1: were in game day for him?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess Radar boy buck Rising.
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  Speaker 2: It was fun.
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  Speaker 5: It's just gonna be back.
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  Speaker 3: In the sun weather. It was great.
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  Speaker 6: Me and Gary both were there, so just getting a
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  Speaker 6: couple of beers watching some ball. Obviously, I feel like
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  Speaker 6: he's saying the first quarter kind of tails off a bit.
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  Speaker 5: It was insane. I lost my voice.
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  Speaker 6: In like one yell out of nowhere in the first quarter,
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  Speaker 6: and Garret's like, what the fuck happened?
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  Speaker 5: Like I I was.
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  Speaker 2: Talking like this now you're still kind of coming.
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  Speaker 3: Back from no.
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  Speaker 6: But then I went and got a water, took a swig,
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  Speaker 6: and ten minutes later my voice was completely back. And
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, my voice just seems a little raspy.
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  Speaker 6: I'm with JP. I'm kind of in this weird like
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm tired or if it's like
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  Speaker 6: there's some in the I feel like today.
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  Speaker 1: But we got to pick the vibes up, like we're
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  Speaker 1: pushing Yeah, we're pushing through when people come to the
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: pod because they like to experience some high vibes and positivity.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously with that they love to see the lows that
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  Speaker 1: we go through to get back to the positive vibes.
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  Speaker 2: Because people could.
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  Speaker 1: Be listening right now like I'm kind of dragging ass.
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  Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, it's fucking and then they hear you going through,
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  Speaker 1: and they're gonna hear this climb back up from you
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  Speaker 1: and JP, and they're gonna feel like, all right, if
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  Speaker 1: they can do it, I can.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking do it. The boys are inspiring, they're motivating me
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 1: The reason I said I felt like you were in
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  Speaker 1: game day form is because your game day form you
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  Speaker 1: can identify very early in the day, and I felt
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  Speaker 1: like the same kind of vibes I took rue. We
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  Speaker 1: had a little a little daddy daughter day at L
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  Speaker 1: and L Market where we went and got a lot
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  Speaker 1: t I was like, man, the boys played tonight, like
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  Speaker 1: you can kind of feel it. You kind of feel
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  Speaker 1: it in the air, like we're a couple of weeks out. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I go on social media. I see I woke up
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  Speaker 1: like it was time to tighten the fuck up. That's
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: obviously on the busting page. But then I see you
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: post your like, your like playoff video from a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years ago where you're like fucking doing your high kid,
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  Speaker 1: You're a mirror of Duel high kicks, And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like if you're pulling that out, like you're operating at
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  Speaker 1: a level to where it's like, Okay, I could be
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  Speaker 1: doing a little much right now, but I'm just so
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  Speaker 1: excited about ball being here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And then a lot of people think that I made
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  Speaker 6: that video that day. And then I had two people
• 10:17
  Speaker 6: reach out and go, did you get a haircut today?
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  Speaker 5: And I was like do that video is from twenty nineteen, But.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine, that's fine. That's good though. Yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 1: you know. It's like reservicing and people are like taking notice.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I had to put it back out there.
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  Speaker 6: Even seeing the video go check it out, won't plug
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  Speaker 6: my Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: But do now question on that, do you make a
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  Speaker 1: weekly maybe video where you're fired up about the game.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we can, we can, we can look
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  Speaker 6: into it. That one that was like the perfect storm.
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  Speaker 6: I remember I was in Boston. It was right before
• 10:50
  Speaker 6: the Titans Patriots playoff came in twenty nineteen where we
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  Speaker 6: beat Brady and them.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, and I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: It was just like I got in my hotel room,
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  Speaker 6: I like two hours for the game, and things just
• 11:02
  Speaker 6: started happening. If the phone came out, some high kicks
• 11:05
  Speaker 6: started happening. Yeah, so maybe maybe, uh, stay vigilant, might
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  Speaker 6: see some videos come out here a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 6: when the season gets going. But I'm gonna hold off
• 11:17
  Speaker 6: on any kind of content until the actual regular seasons.
• 11:19
  Speaker 6: Here first first home game in the preseason was here.
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  Speaker 5: Now I'm kind of over it. Waiting for the regular season.
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm kind of over it. I feel you though,
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  Speaker 1: It's like you want it to You wanted to get here.
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  Speaker 1: Like enough, there's enough teason that's been going on.
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  Speaker 2: We're all fire. Everybody's fired up about it.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: And for all the Packers fans tuning in to listen
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: to the Matt laflur Rich Pasaccia podcast, like just bear
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: with us. I know you're probably sitting there like, what
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: the fuck are these guys talking about like they're talking about,
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: you know, doing these videos for Titan games.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: Who's Jack? Who's Jack in the back?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, no disrespect? You know there you got we got
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: new people. Come in here now. But bear with us.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: You can usually fast forward like twenty to thirty minutes
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  Speaker 1: and you'll be at the will be at the interview
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  Speaker 1: if you need to go see you by that bad.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: But if you're trying to catch some vibes right now
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: and hang with the boys, like this is our intro,
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: this is what we do. We hit some house cleaning,
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: we hit our favorite segment, shout out, no free shoutouts
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  Speaker 1: with the whole house cleaning deal. Did you guys watch
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: House a Dragon? Oh yeah, what'd you think?
• 12:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, as any like Game of Thrones fan, it
• 12:19
  Speaker 5: was hard not to love it. I mean, it's back
• 12:22
  Speaker 5: you hear that? Dun dun? Yeah, well, I.
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  Speaker 6: Know, I know you're a massive Game of Thrones fan,
• 12:35
  Speaker 6: but I think it will It was a consensus.
• 12:39
  Speaker 5: With the whole general public in the way Game of
• 12:41
  Speaker 5: Thrones ended was not the way most people had hoped it.
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  Speaker 3: What have I'm with you?
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to give you, like if some background music,
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: like no I were like voicing over that segment.
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  Speaker 6: But I think they did a phenomenal job being bag back.
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  Speaker 6: It's gonna be a fun, uh fun season to watch.
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  Speaker 5: Especially.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's like really fun when there's scheduled programming
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  Speaker 6: on because we're so used to like streaming and having
• 13:05
  Speaker 6: every episode at the like right there at the click
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  Speaker 6: of a button. So when we have to watch, i
• 13:10
  Speaker 6: mean wait one week at a time for an episode,
• 13:12
  Speaker 6: I think that makes it really special. And it's like
• 13:15
  Speaker 6: the anticipation the building there's gonna be an episode probably
• 13:18
  Speaker 6: in the next two or three weeks where they drop
• 13:20
  Speaker 6: us with like a cliffhanger and we're like a fuck,
• 13:23
  Speaker 6: but I got away next week or a whole week
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  Speaker 6: to get there and watch what happens. But this is
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  Speaker 6: you off a little bit, for sure, But it also
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  Speaker 6: it makes it that much better.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I thought they did a really good job.
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  Speaker 5: I'm excited to follow those storylines.
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  Speaker 6: It seems like there's some deception already in the midst
• 13:41
  Speaker 6: some some brother House of Targarian.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the House of Targarian, like you know, it fucking
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  Speaker 1: goes down. I hope eventually, like you know, you hope
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  Speaker 1: that there's gonna be enough seasons where you get eventually
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: to the story of the Mad King and everything like that,
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: to where Denarius is born or something. Then obviously floats
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: into the Game of Thrones. But I'm fired up man.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was a great first episode. Struggled a
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: little bit with the way that you know, the whole
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: fucking you know, they killed they killed the uh, they
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: killed the mom about to give birth spoiler alert.
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: Also, well, you.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: Know, at the end of the day, like, if you're
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: fucking in this game for real, then you need to
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: be up to date and watching it when it happens
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: for future notice, just future reference. We might talk about
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: House of the Dragon House of the Dragon every week,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: So if you don't want spoilers, maybe skip these parts. However,
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: if you're truly about that fucking life, which you should be,
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: JP's not. He's never seen Game of Thrones, and we
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: can get to that in a second because teasing piece
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: of the boy. I truly do feel bad for people
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: who haven't watched it, because it is an incredible show.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I thought that part was tough man, making that a
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: little tough decision right there. I thought it was pretty
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: fucking hardcore for a first episode, especially for.
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: You know, a recently new father.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yea, I was inting a little bit differently.
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean they that's all. I like, we
• 14:56
  Speaker 6: forget Game of Thrones that it was. It's brutal, it's bloody.
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: They don't hold back like it's savage. So I think
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: they didn't skip a bee, just getting right back into
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: it where you're gonna see some guys heads fly off,
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: You're gonna see some blood, some death. It's yeah, it's
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: not for the fan of heart, that's for sure.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And also like going off the whole weekly thing.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: I there's a part of me that enjoys it because
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: it's like a love hate relationship. You wish you could
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: binge it. However, I agree with you because to me,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: especially now in this day and age or social media
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: and everything else, it brings the community together, which is
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: why I feel like you can argue Game of Thrones
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: being like this community being the best community to be in,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: like of all time, because everybody throws in the breaking bads,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: the what else breaking bad?
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: What else?
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Did I say? What else? Have I claimed to be?
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Like? Oh?
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Breaking sopranos, y sopranos, sponge.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, stranger, stranger things, but like just knowing that everybody's
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: taking a moment. The entire world essentially comes together to
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: watch Game of Thrones once a week and live on
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: the internet about it. I think that's like an element
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: that is arguable when talking about the best series of
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: all time. But I'm fired up about it again. The
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Targarian bloodline is deep. It runs deep. They're fucking each
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: other type of deal to keep the blood line going.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: But no, I think it's awesome to pivot away from
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the House of the Dragon.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Go check it out. No free shout outs, HBO pass.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: We have new merch dropping Thursday, right, Garrets. That's correct,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: isn't it?
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: Thursday?
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, Thursday probably what nine am?
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Thursday nine am.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: You guys will probably be listening on audio to the
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Thursday intro as well.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: But new merch coming out.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: You guys can see it on this in Taylor's seat
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: right now if you're just listening. They're the fire and
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: we're bringing back the Electricity shirts. We had enough people
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: popularity with them a couple years ago when we made
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: them for the Boys of Tennessee.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Now we got them right now. I'm holding the Boys
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: of Michigan.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: We got this one, which is fucking badass, probably the
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: most badass one, the Raiders one. Uh White Lightning. We
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: got Titans gear. We got Titans and white Tea's, Black Tea's.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: We got the oilers colors. We got Nebraska ones coming,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: we got Green Bay ones.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: We're making. We're doing a lot of different stuff.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: But that new merch and the new hats, the one
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: that you see that I'm wearing right now, the one
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: that I'm holding in my hand, that's red, and then
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Taylor has the oily oiler colors ones. We are also
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: in the in production of making other colors for other teams.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: So if you want your team, make sure to be loud,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: to be proud on social media so it catches our attention.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: But that new new merch drops on Thursday at nine
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: am in the morning Central time. They're gonna probably sell out.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. The whole Boys merch last year
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: did incredible numbers, So get shop early, shop fast, shop often.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Garrett, I miss anything.
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: You didn't hold up the Tennessee Titans one very well,
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: so let me a little disrespect for the local fans.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I think he took that a little personal. Absolutely, I did.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Here's the uh, here's the Tennessee one, here's the tight
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: it's fire boys.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I think the electricity.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I love that we're bringing it back and we're making
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: them for everybody else. Shall we get to it? Our
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: favorite segment of the week. Shout out? No free shoutouts?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Do we all have them?
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Are we ready to go?
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: We interrupt this episode to bring you Duke Cannon. No
• 18:14
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• 18:20
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• 18:24
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• 18:27
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• 18:31
  Speaker 1: sitting over there looking at all the different products. I'm like, oh,
• 18:33
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• 18:35
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• 18:39
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• 18:43
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• 18:52
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• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the sin is or the ingredients
• 18:57
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• 19:00
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• 19:02
  Speaker 2: I came and got the deodor, and I came and
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: got like.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: The travel bag, like we're over here shopping in our
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: warehouse with the Duke Cannon product. But I grabbed the
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: face wash because I'm like, all right, I need a
• 19:10
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• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the face wash into the shower and then I leave
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: it in there, and then at nighttime I need to
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: go into the shower and grab it.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: So I need one in both spots.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: But the coal mining, the coal miners face wash, dude,
• 19:21
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• 19:22
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  Speaker 1: to the episode, boss Baby, we haven't seen you in
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• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a while.
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: I know, Like he's like, this is game and I
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: love it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: Uh My shout out. This week, I went to my
• 20:05
  Speaker 9: first Nashville SC game. I was I was completely surprising.
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: I'll get to my shout out, but I want to
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: shout out Larry and j Pollard for hooking me up
• 20:14
  Speaker 9: with their season tickets. It was really nice of them,
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: so I appreciate that, but I didn't My expectations for
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: the game were pretty low. I'm not the biggest soccer fan.
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: Like it's probably one of the one of the games
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: I watched the least. But going to that Nashville s
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: C game, like, it was probably better than any any
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: football stadium I've ever been in. And I know that's
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: a hot take, and I know people are probably gonna
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: be upset about that, but like, that stadium did not
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: stop rocking the entire time. On top of that, they
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: went up four zero and just completely dominated.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: So you're saying the Nashville SC game, Oh, the atmosphere
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: was more than any football game.
• 20:56
  Speaker 9: Any football I've ever game I've ever been to, right
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: here in Nashville, Right here in Nashville. I was locked
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: in the entire game because of that crowd.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: It was unreal, damn.
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: And my shout out is to those those events that
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: far exceed your expectations.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: MM, that's my shadow. That was good.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: That was a good one. That was a good one.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Brother.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I'll have to check that out because that's you said that.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let's let's pump the brakes. But
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: everybody's back there, not in their heads.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: It's crazy. I was shocked.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: So you were in the shot, he went, Garrett Jack,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: who's holding the mic?
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Who we got next?
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I'll go real.
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: Quick, my shout out, no free shout out. I was
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: going to go to a money hooker for rocking the
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: boys merch on game little throwback piece, but I was
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: when I saw that, I was like.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's go.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I know, like when the boys are bought in, there's
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: just like a different energy, Like when you see the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: athletes rock and the merchandise and Taylor.
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: Wore his IT Wars Michigan gear. Appreciate him wearing the
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: new unreleased stuff. But when I saw many, I.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, yeah, it's like Taylor, like this is
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: your business as well, so you should be rocking the
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: merch Well, when you see the athletes bought in for
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: the photo ops like that gets you going bro yep,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: that's my shut up Jack, light it up.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I know you've been waiting on this thing.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: Uh, my mind's pretty simple this week. But it's something
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: that I never take for granted, and it is shout
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: out no for shadowt to like long hot showers.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Yesterday I was seeing a little tough after the game.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: But dude, I will sit in a shower if I
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: don't have to worry about it, like the water getting
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: cold or just paying for water in general. Like if
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: I'm at a hotel, I'll sit in that bitch for
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: like an hour and it's just so nice. It kind
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: of like falls in long with like my steam room
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: take the other other week.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: But like sitting a long hot shower is just.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: Like it's like the full reset kind of just like
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: disappear from the world for a minute and now have
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: to think you just like letting the water hit you.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: And I just anytime I have the opportunity to take
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: a nice line hot shower, you know, yeah, shout out
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: water and shout out easy accessible water. So we're very
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: fortunate that we have these these incredible facilities that is,
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: you know, my bathroom.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: So shout out to hot showers.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: All right, man, Hell yeah, JP, let's go brother all right,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: my shout out, no free shout out.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: I can't decide if this is going to go to
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: the driver or the animal.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: But it's when you're driving. You like, how this is starting.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's when you're driving and a squirrel or something
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: runs out at the last minute in front of your
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: car and you make a move and then you're like,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: did I hit it? Look back and you can see
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: it still alive. You're like, oh, thank god, Like I
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: still got it. I'm sharp on the wheel. But at
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: the same time, it could also go to the shoutout,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: could go to the squirrel like being elusive.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: No brother, word that I am not gonna say. But
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: them boys are pure idiots when they run in the road.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Those animals fucking run in the middle of the road
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and will stop and they you know, they might be
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: in a panic, but it's like, yo, just fucking there's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: vehicles coming everywhere.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: You gotta time that road. You got to time up
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: that cross, you know what I mean?
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Like you you could be a shout out to the animal,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Like not at all, bro, It couldn't be dumber. When
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: they get in the road, They get in the road
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and just freeze and will turn in like look like, oh,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: this is coming about to end my life, and you
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: basically just maneuver like you might hit another car, an.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Animal runs down, I go, this fucking idiot.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Just fuck so shout out to the driver. Then shout
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: out to the driver. For sure, shout out to evading
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: animals running across.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: But that's ultimately like you want to shout out the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: animal because you're you're like, you love animals. I'm from
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the heart, so shut out them, animals out.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: That's animals.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: My shout out and no for shut out of the
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: week goes to just filled up my gas tank, and
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: there's like that level of.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Pride of I.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Wish people could understand my untapped potential when you consistently
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: drop that gas right on the dollar sign you're trying
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: to hit, so you fill it up, and it's like
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: fifty bucks.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: When you hit that fifteen and you see that.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Five zero dot zero zero, you know, you kind of
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: look around with pride. It's the samest like the microwave, Like
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you always try and time the microwave. However, the microwave,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it's almost like it's almost like this impossible feat that
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: you'll always go after. But something with the technology won't
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: really ever allow it to stop in the middle of
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the beep. But on a gas tank you get to
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: see if you go over, you go beyond. So like
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: hitting that thing right at the number you were wanting,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and you might look and see if your wife or
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: somebody in the car like saw the same thing. Because
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: there's like a man, I have so much potential that
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I still have to tap into that I wish the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: world could see. But my shout out, no free shoutout,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: goes to you know, yeah, clicking that thing on that
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: that gasoline on them zeros so fucking stupid. All right,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: So Packers fans, everything you've been waiting for, is this
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: a moment right now? Coach Lafleur, Coach Maisaccia, I'm so
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: fucking fired up. Not even Packers fans, but Raiders fans
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: probably Tapaway Buccaneers fans.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: They got to experience Coach Pisaci.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Hear all the stories about this man, and I know
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: he went on a I know part of my take
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: on a snuck him on Grit Week like out from
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: under Us.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: But like this interview with Coach Pisaci.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: When he comes on in the middle of the interview,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: we can sit down with him, like everything when alec
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Ingole comes on, Max Crosby, Foster Morrow, Fuck, I corrected
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: that Fostermorrow, right, Fostermorrow. When all the Raiders guys would
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: come on, and we try and describe like what Pasaci
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: is like how like he can be a motherfucker, but
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: there's just something about him that makes you want to
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: run through a wall. You get that vibe from this dude.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Some of his Italian comes out like look, I'm getting
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: caught trying to explain it again.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Like right when he walked onto the bus, he.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Like moves the mic out of the way like he's
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: not gonna talk on it. Wheel's like, hey man, you
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: need to like here's the mic. He's basically like waves
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: will off like I'm not talking into your mic, bro. Yeah,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: and then ten seconds later he's dropping like everybody in
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: the bus is like, dude, if I'm playing football, I
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: want to play for this guy.
• 27:35
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: You just get a really good look into the cookie
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: jar with this dude. You really get to feel what
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: he's about because shout out to him. I really appreciate
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: him for being open and like, you know, cause they
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: don't have to do that stuff and coaches are really
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: buttoned up when they're doing these interviews. But I feel
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: like he really gave us like a look like when
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you're sitting there and talking with him, like that's the Maasaca.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: He got off the bus, we hugged, and he left,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: and I came back on with the boys, and I'm like,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: that's exactly even coach with Flourda. I'm not like obviously
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: downplaying the coach floor like we get to know him
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: a lot in this episode two, especially on the front end,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: but like obviously like I've been on record talking about
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Pasasia and everything else, and I got to come on
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the bus plast. I don't even know if you've gotten
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to listen to the interview yet, but I got to
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: come on the bus and be.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Like, boys, like that was it?
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Like that was you got.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: You got a taste of what it was to like
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: play for Coach Pisachia.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: But this interview is awesome. You guys are gonna love
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: it again. Please take a moment subscribe to the boys.
• 28:28
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• 28:29
  Speaker 1: to drop a second comment, or maybe you're tuning in
• 28:31
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• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Whatever you want to say.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Shout out the boys like pro vibes like you know whatever,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you guys know how it is, but without without further ado,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: this is the Coach Little Flour Coach Pisachi episode Big hugs,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: tiny kisses. Yeah, if you guys are listening, there's a slight,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: little faint buzz right now. Listen, we got the bus
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: toad however many miles from Nashville to Green Bay where
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you are inside of Lambeau right now, we've inserted ourselves
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: in the Lambeau and uh kind of and all the wiring.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Like this has been uh we've Jimmy rigged this entire thing.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So if you hear a little fan thing like, bear
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: with the boys, because we're going through a lot of
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: adversity to get you guys fucking awesome interviews with head
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: coach HCl Hammer cockle Fur and we're gonna have Aaron
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Rodgers on like we're gonna have a lot of guys,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: So bear with us, but stuff further ado. I'm fucking
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: fired up that you are finally on the bus.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I'm glad I get.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: To Yeah, let's go, yes, because we've we've talked about
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: it for a few years now. Number Okay, let's start here.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Why haven't we seen Why haven't we seen Willy in
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: uh in the Green and yellow.
• 29:47
  Speaker 11: That's a great question because we've talked with a few yous.
• 29:51
  Speaker 11: I would love to see those beautif that beautiful smile.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: In the green and gold.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe a December phone call playoff, Willie, if you
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: want to raise the level of.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Like we need to bring juice late in the year. Yeah,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you bring a lot of juice. I know that.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: If anything, if you ever get in the pinch, just
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: just know that if you call and you're like, hey,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: would you be able to and I say yes, just
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: know that you can trust me.
• 30:11
  Speaker 11: You stay ready so you don't have to get ready.
• 30:14
  Speaker 11: Let's go, let's go. But the last couple of years,
• 30:16
  Speaker 11: so more so the first year where I ended up
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: playing for the Raiders. Remember when I was when I
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: signed with the Saints, that kind of all season we were.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I was so fired up because you've got Ko in here.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Ko was my Kirk Alavadatti was my linebacker coach for
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: five years. I've watched it and he was kind of the
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: coach that like took a shot on me, like trusting.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Me, kind of bet a little bit, like hey, I remember.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: When he first said make me right, He's like, because
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: we're going with this decision, and so knowing that you
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: had Ko here, I was like, man, if there could
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: be a shot to where I could play for both
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: of you guys, Like I was so fired up.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Obviously it didn't work out, but I thought it was
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: getting close.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: At one point it was. It was definitely talked about.
• 30:58
  Speaker 11: I will say this, You're a big reason that Ko
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: is here, really, Yeah, because I remember asking you when
• 31:06
  Speaker 11: we were together in Tennessee, who the best linebacker coach
• 31:10
  Speaker 11: you ever had?
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I believe that, like like Ko, he's he's
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: very good. No matter how he does it, he's very
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: good at getting to the conversational piece that you want
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: to hear from, whether or not it Sometimes he might
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: shy away because Kyo and I would there have been
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: some roller coaster rides with us, like us to right,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: and in this business, like especially when you're young, you
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: don't fully understand the big like the bigger pictures decisions
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I kind of have to be made that kind of
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: really piss you off.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: In the moment.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: You're just like, why aren't you fucking telling me this?
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: And he's just like, put it on me.
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: It's my fault.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, it's not your fucking fault, but
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know why you won't tell me. And it's
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: You've we've had conversations like that. But he's somebody who's
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: always like he teaches well. And the first thing he
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: says to you, which I've told these guys, I'm like, hey, guys,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I love you, but don't ever trust me.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: And he kind of says that from the to like,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: you know, it is a business at the end of
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: the day.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I couldn't like speak higher of coach Ko
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: just because he was the guy that kind of helped.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: He was one where I got.
• 32:09
  Speaker 11: My shot, Oh, no doubt, And you took advantage of
• 32:11
  Speaker 11: that shot, dude. Yeah, it's hard, undrafted. I mean, that's
• 32:16
  Speaker 11: that's a tough road you're on the practice squad. I mean, yeah,
• 32:19
  Speaker 11: did a hell of.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Defense against you guys, fucking having to cover Jordan Reid every.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Goddamn day in my life.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: You and uh you and mcfi for the offense.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: But uh no, man, remember And and then I was
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: sitting in the I was about to sign with the
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Saints and I'm sitting in my hotel room, and I
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: hit up coach for because we had talked on the
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: phone a couple of times, and like I was very
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I was, I was hopeful, and like I was.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Wanting to play for Green Bay.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, I would love to get up
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and play for you and play for KO again. And obviously,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: like you know, the business is involved and everything like that,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: but I remember like giving my last swing at it,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: and I was sitting in the hotel in New Orleans
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and I was like, Hey, I did my work out
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: and they have a contract in front of me right now.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting in my hotel room and I haven't signed it.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: If you can get me to Green Bay right now,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I will fucking get on the next play tomorrow and
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I'll come to Green Bay. And he's like, bro, You're
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: just like man, I truly I don't know, Like I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: can try one more time tomorrow, but that's nothing to
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: hang your head on, Like you've got to, like, you've
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: got to take this opportunity because this one is probably
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: not going to be here, not because I'm not a beast.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: You are and we probably would have won the Super
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Bowl that you're in Green.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Bay, there's no doubt.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you are the missing piece dog, I'm telling you.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: But off of that thirty nine and ten, you have
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the best start of any head coach in the history.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: That's that's correct. And then I think I heard that
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: on ESPN.
• 33:42
  Speaker 11: You know what, though I hear it a lot. First
• 33:46
  Speaker 11: of all, it is a reflection of everybody that is here.
• 33:50
  Speaker 11: It's our players, our coaches, our personnel department do a
• 33:53
  Speaker 11: great job.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: But ultimately it really doesn't matter. That's true. It really
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. You're right, you are.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Right, I think because I was thinking about this, because
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, I want to ask him this question.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna like ultimately you.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Get people say cliche or they're given the head coach answer,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: like you're giving the right response saying that because truthfully,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: like when you're trying to get to that next thing,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: like it doesn't fucking matter what's happened in the past.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: What matters is the next step in front of us.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: But what I want to know, which I think is
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: good and I think what makes this thing work with
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: us at times is diving into the perspective of like
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: do you ever sit back and like have perspective for
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: yourself and like not in an arrogant way, be like
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I've done this, but have an appreciation for how far
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: you've kind of come and started off like this, whether
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: or not you can say I've had the arguably the
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: greatest quarterback, We've had the best players, or I got
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: to come into this situation. Do you ever have a
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: perspective where you can sit back and take from that
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: perspective and then you make it relatable to everybody because
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: people are like, Okay, he is a human and he
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: does appreciate his wins because I get it that you're
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: fucking like it doesn't matter and we got to win
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: a super Bowl and I'm two and three in the
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: playoffs and all of those fucking answers, thanks, thanks.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: For Foreign Sultan, the WM there will well.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: But I say that because I feel like that's something
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: you'll be like, you know, at the end of the day,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I'm this, I'm that, because while you're going, you're also
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: preparing for your whatever, if there ever is another gig
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: or your next boss. Like you always got to be
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: this certain fucking person that's got it together. But do
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: you take moments to appreciate and see the body of
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: work that you've put together since you've been here.
• 35:27
  Speaker 11: Well, for myself, it's it's never I, it's we And
• 35:33
  Speaker 11: because like I told you earlier, it takes a lot
• 35:36
  Speaker 11: of people to make this show go. And first and foremost,
• 35:39
  Speaker 11: it starts with our players. And we've had obviously, we
• 35:42
  Speaker 11: have a lot of Pro Bowl type players, but not
• 35:47
  Speaker 11: only are they great on the field, they're great in
• 35:50
  Speaker 11: that locker room.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what I guess if there is
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: a moment to say, I that.
• 35:57
  Speaker 11: All you can do is lay out a vision and
• 35:59
  Speaker 11: then and it's on everybody else whether they want to
• 36:02
  Speaker 11: choose to follow that vision. And we've had just great
• 36:05
  Speaker 11: people that have come together for the betterment of the team.
• 36:08
  Speaker 11: And I think that is probably what I'm most proud of.
• 36:12
  Speaker 11: And it's not the wins and losses. And certainly we
• 36:15
  Speaker 11: all know why we're here. Everybody in the league is
• 36:17
  Speaker 11: here to hoiste that Lombardi Trophy and to win that.
• 36:22
  Speaker 11: And you know, at the end of the day, it
• 36:23
  Speaker 11: doesn't matter how many games you win in the regular season.
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: Only one team's happy at the end of the year.
• 36:28
  Speaker 11: So until we reach that, we're going to be a
• 36:33
  Speaker 11: little disgruntled, I guess.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: No doubt.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: But like with that, And I see what you mean,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: because you could come in you come into an organization
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: like this, like the history behind it. Not only that,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: but like Aaron Rodgers, the squad, the talent, the I mean,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the Lombardi Green Bay, all of it. Like you come
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: into this situation and you sit back and you're like, all, yeah,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I can do is lay out a vision, and I'm
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: proud that we all found a way to like come together.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Like what were some things that you felt like you
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: had to kind of add to your toolbox or your
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: bag or whatever the word you want to use coming
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: into this situation being an offensive coordinator, being the head
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: coach of this and trying to get people to buy
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: into that, or you even being like what are things
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: that I need to buy into?
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Like what pivots have you had to make becoming a
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: head coach.
• 37:15
  Speaker 11: I think you're constantly learning, but I think it all
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: starts by hiring the right people around you. And it's
• 37:22
  Speaker 11: okay if you don't have all the answers, you can
• 37:24
  Speaker 11: lean on each other. You know, we have a lot
• 37:27
  Speaker 11: of open dialogue not only with with our staff, but
• 37:31
  Speaker 11: with a lot of our players as well, And I
• 37:32
  Speaker 11: think that's I mean, I just I'm of the mindset
• 37:37
  Speaker 11: that collectively we can figure out figure it out. Not
• 37:41
  Speaker 11: one person has all the answers. So that's kind of
• 37:44
  Speaker 11: how we operate. Is that hard to do in a
• 37:46
  Speaker 11: business like this?
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Like usually there's you know, people have titles and you
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: come in and when if you have like an open
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: dialogue style of like, hey, guys, like we you be
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: don't be afraid to fucking speak up because we all
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: want to learn from each other.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Are there?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like there's like a growing pain in that,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: especially coming into such like an alpha mentality like masculine
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: environment in business.
• 38:10
  Speaker 11: No, I think people aren't necessarily used to that in
• 38:14
  Speaker 11: our business mm hm as much, although I think it's
• 38:17
  Speaker 11: starting to trend a little bit more that way. But yeah,
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: I think it all goes back to getting It's the relationships, right,
• 38:26
  Speaker 11: people getting to know you, You're getting to know them,
• 38:29
  Speaker 11: and then that's where you can have real honest conversation.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, getting into the last like getting into the end
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: of last year where you know, you get into the playoffs,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you don't make it to the super Bowl. Obviously, at
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: a place like this, the standard is like is a
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: super Bowl like you guys have been to a couple
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: of NFC championships at the end of this past year,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: what were a couple of things that you went in
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: whether you close the door with coaches in there, just yourself,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: you're most trusted people to where you're like, these are
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the things we need to fucking tighten up, or these
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: are the things we need to fix, because obviously you
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: get you probably get a sense of being very sick
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: and tired of making it so far, being like the
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: best team in like the regular season, and and and
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: being like, what is it gonna fucking take to just
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: get past this goddamn hurdle.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Well, a, we're a couple of.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Things you look at and some changes you might have
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: made or things that you look to.
• 39:26
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think, well you do that every year. You
• 39:28
  Speaker 11: always look at you know what, what what went right?
• 39:31
  Speaker 11: What are the things that you got to fix? And
• 39:34
  Speaker 11: then certainly when you get to the playoffs. I was
• 39:37
  Speaker 11: talking to Sean McVay about this. You know, it's like
• 39:40
  Speaker 11: it's the closest thing to March madness. I mean, the
• 39:43
  Speaker 11: competitive balance is so close, and it's a play here
• 39:48
  Speaker 11: or play there, And you know, from playing in this
• 39:50
  Speaker 11: league for so long, but certainly we had some We've
• 39:54
  Speaker 11: had some bad mistakes at some really bad time.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: So you look at you know, obviously last.
• 40:02
  Speaker 11: Year in the playoffs, just we were pretty much in
• 40:05
  Speaker 11: control of that game, although we weren't playing very well offensively.
• 40:10
  Speaker 11: I mean, our defense was they showed up and they
• 40:14
  Speaker 11: were playing as good as I've ever seen our defense play.
• 40:17
  Speaker 11: And then you have a misqueue at the end of
• 40:19
  Speaker 11: the game with a you know, the block punt that
• 40:23
  Speaker 11: gets returned. You know, it's stings. It's still stings. It's
• 40:26
  Speaker 11: always going to sting, but it's just because you can't
• 40:30
  Speaker 11: those those opportunities are so precious.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: You've got to take advantage of them when you're in
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: the moment.
• 40:34
  Speaker 11: So you always you always try to reflect and take
• 40:38
  Speaker 11: as much emotion out of it at the end of
• 40:41
  Speaker 11: the season, which is hard to do. And I wish
• 40:45
  Speaker 11: the league would just like shut down for a couple
• 40:48
  Speaker 11: of weeks to let everybody kind of decompress, but that's
• 40:51
  Speaker 11: not the world we live in. So you've got to
• 40:53
  Speaker 11: make quick decisions, and you've got to try to make
• 40:55
  Speaker 11: them with without being emotional, And like I said, it's
• 41:00
  Speaker 11: so hard to do. But you know, the opportunity to
• 41:03
  Speaker 11: get a guy like rich Pasacia in here. Yes, it
• 41:08
  Speaker 11: presented itself, and you know, it's one of the toughest
• 41:12
  Speaker 11: part I think about being a head coach is saying
• 41:14
  Speaker 11: goodbye to other people, letting guys go, and that's something
• 41:18
  Speaker 11: that I'll never get used to, but it is part
• 41:21
  Speaker 11: of the job, and you always have to have the
• 41:24
  Speaker 11: interest of there's so many people associated with our organization,
• 41:27
  Speaker 11: not only just our coaches and players, but personnel and
• 41:31
  Speaker 11: just everybody that works here, and so you always gotta
• 41:35
  Speaker 11: you have the responsibility of looking out for everybody within
• 41:39
  Speaker 11: the organization.
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  Speaker 1: back to the episode, does it get harder? Like this
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: past year doesn't sting more than the year's past? Like
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: obviously they all sting, But it was there a sense
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: of like, god, damn it, dude, I can tell.
• 42:32
  Speaker 11: By your grant like sure absolutely, but like there's no
• 42:36
  Speaker 11: like I said, all you can do is reflect and
• 42:37
  Speaker 11: try to learn from it and move on. And it's
• 42:40
  Speaker 11: a new year, and so it's not something unless I'm
• 42:44
  Speaker 11: asked about it that I ever put much thought into
• 42:46
  Speaker 11: it at this stage of the game.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where are you at minutely? Like how's the off
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: season been for you?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Like being in that box, like you explain, like you
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: wish that you could have like a two week like
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: just fucking try to remove as.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Much most as possible.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: But obviously the farther way you get from it, the
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: more outside of the box that you get. Like, where
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: are you at now? How do you feel like going
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: into this year? And everything?
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: I feel great.
• 43:06
  Speaker 10: It was.
• 43:06
  Speaker 11: It was a really good offseason, a lot of transition,
• 43:10
  Speaker 11: which you know, creates a lot of unknowns when you
• 43:13
  Speaker 11: lose so so many important people on your coaching staff
• 43:18
  Speaker 11: like a Nathaniel Hackett, Luke Getzi, Justin Out and Mike Smith. Uh,
• 43:24
  Speaker 11: you know, we we lost a lot of really good
• 43:26
  Speaker 11: coaches merged straight and so that creates you know, hiring
• 43:32
  Speaker 11: people's hard, especially because hiring the right people and guys
• 43:36
  Speaker 11: that gonna are going to fit in with with the
• 43:38
  Speaker 11: culture that we have in place, and so that is
• 43:41
  Speaker 11: that is.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: There's a little bit of a learning curve there.
• 43:44
  Speaker 11: But we've been able to hire some some great people
• 43:47
  Speaker 11: who were able to promote Adam Stenovich to offensive coordinator
• 43:50
  Speaker 11: and bring in guys that Tom Clements, who uh you
• 43:55
  Speaker 11: know was here previously as Aaron's quarterback coach from his
• 43:59
  Speaker 11: second year all the way to like year fourteen or
• 44:02
  Speaker 11: whatever it was, and then so we got some bringing
• 44:05
  Speaker 11: in Rich has been awesome. So we were able to
• 44:09
  Speaker 11: you know, handle that transition and learn and kind of
• 44:12
  Speaker 11: grow together. And yet we haven't based any you know,
• 44:16
  Speaker 11: real tests yet in terms of the adversity that comes
• 44:19
  Speaker 11: along with the NFL season. But and then also, you know,
• 44:23
  Speaker 11: replacing some key players. It's it's it's tough when you
• 44:26
  Speaker 11: lose a guy like DeVante Adams, but that is the
• 44:29
  Speaker 11: nature of the beast, right, You've got to continue to
• 44:32
  Speaker 11: evolve and move on.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: And there's no sense in just.
• 44:37
  Speaker 11: Sitting here thinking about the what ifs or what should
• 44:41
  Speaker 11: have been or what could have been. It's just all right,
• 44:44
  Speaker 11: here's what we got. How do we make this work
• 44:46
  Speaker 11: and we move forward.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like a lot of the external outside
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: noise when decisions like that, like have to get made,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: like a DeVante Adams trading him, Like obviously you bring
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: in Aaron's old quarterback coach, and everybody just naturally reason
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: to like the way Aaron's mystique is about what is
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: he doing? Like what's in his head all the time?
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Is he gonna retire this year? Oh ship, they're bringing
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: in his old quarterback coach. Do you ever feel like
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: are not?
• 45:12
  Speaker 10: Do you ever?
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Obviously we all do as human, but like, does that
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: do you ever feel that weight from the outside world
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: on decisions that get made like that, or even not
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: drafting a wide receiver in the first round when everybody's
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: like screaming shit like that.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think you have to block that out.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: You gotta. We put a lot of time.
• 45:28
  Speaker 11: Into this thing, and we like, sure, would we have
• 45:33
  Speaker 11: drafted a guy if the right guy was there in
• 45:35
  Speaker 11: the first round, Absolutely we would have. But you can't.
• 45:39
  Speaker 11: You can't force it. It's gotta be you gotta trust.
• 45:42
  Speaker 11: We have a great process. Brian Gudikunsar GM does does
• 45:45
  Speaker 11: a really good job and his personal department, they do
• 45:48
  Speaker 11: a great job of evaluating, and you know, ultimately you
• 45:54
  Speaker 11: gotta take the best players and you don't wanna, you
• 45:57
  Speaker 11: don't want to force it.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: And when you force it, that's typically when you make mistakes.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I texted Ko immediately when you guys drafted that linebacker
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: in the fresh round, I said, what the fuck is in?
• 46:06
  Speaker 11: I bet you did, he responds.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Rich liked him at a right guard on punt.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: It's a little longer than you will, I know, right.
• 46:17
  Speaker 10: Fuck.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: But I want to get more into like your coaching
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: career because you've had quite the fucking come up.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: We were talking about a little bit on the bus.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: And you're you know, you're very uh you have a
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: very like stoic approach about you know, it's allid you know, playing,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: meeting the right people, taking advantage of the right opportunity,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: like relating it all the life, but like looking at
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: your background, like I didn't know you played for the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Omaha Beef.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Number one, You didn't know.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I was right there you played for the Omaha Beef.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Like you played in the Indoor fucking Football League. And
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: then you go into IL the ni FL, Bro, and then.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: You go in like.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: I think about a guy that's playing in the Indoor
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Football League. And it's not like I'm not being I'm
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: trying my best not to be dist sounding disrespectful, but
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: like you know, like you sit there and you think
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: of a guy in the n i FL, the Indoor
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Football League who goes into Division two coaching, and then
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: you know through probably a connection there, and then from
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: there you start climbing the ranks of your coaching journey.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: You get a little higher.
• 47:27
  Speaker 11: Then you go to Houston, that's where it seemed like
• 47:29
  Speaker 11: you meet coach coach Shanahan. You go to Washington, then.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: You go to Notre Dame for a year, then you
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: get back into it with Atlanta, then you go to
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: LA then the Titans.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Now you're here a lot of moves, Bro, a lot
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: of moves.
• 47:42
  Speaker 11: Although my wife, my wife always tells me, she's like,
• 47:47
  Speaker 11: you don't move, you relocate.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: I move. So that's gotta be tough on the family.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Number one is it is tough.
• 47:55
  Speaker 11: It is tough, But our kids were young enough where
• 47:58
  Speaker 11: it didn't really Yeah, and they got to, you know,
• 48:02
  Speaker 11: live in a lot of cool different cities and meet
• 48:05
  Speaker 11: a lot of new people. But no, it's that that's life, right,
• 48:09
  Speaker 11: is just being presented with an opportunity.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: So going back, my dad was a college coach at
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Central went.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: A little bit on your coaching journey because I want
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: to talk about some of the pivotal moments that probably
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: took place as you continue for everybody.
• 48:21
  Speaker 11: But my dad was at Central Michigan for a lot
• 48:24
  Speaker 11: of years. He gets fired my senior year of high school.
• 48:28
  Speaker 11: So I was going to walk on there. Ended up yeah, yeah,
• 48:33
  Speaker 11: he got that. Yeah, there's two kinds of coaches, coaches
• 48:36
  Speaker 11: who've been fired and coaches who are going to get fired.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Typically yes, so, but he was at Central Michigan.
• 48:44
  Speaker 11: Anyways, make a long story short, I went to Western Michigan,
• 48:47
  Speaker 11: transferred to Saginaw Valley, played against.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Bryant oh Oh Ship the man is here.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: We got coach Masace. He's gonna join us and he
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: will listen to this story with us. You thought you
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: never see me again.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Hey, hey, how you doing one? I'm rich?
• 49:11
  Speaker 12: Yeah?
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: What's mean?
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, we do, but we got the background.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: We're good. Thanks, we've been waiting for you. Welcome to
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: my meeting. No, no, don't worry about it. I didn't
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: know what I was supposed to wear. I'll take it off.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: It's hottering fuck.
• 49:29
  Speaker 11: Anyways, right there, they've heard a lot about you, Garrett
• 49:35
  Speaker 11: Jack JP.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: We're just in the middle.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: He's reflecting on his come up in the coaching ranks,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: and he's talking about his dad a little bit right now.
• 49:45
  Speaker 11: But I was talking about how he was an indoor
• 49:47
  Speaker 11: football player with the beef. What that probably makes a coach?
• 49:57
  Speaker 11: Besides you, he doesn't.
• 49:58
  Speaker 10: Have a plenty of film on will some blocks on Pumper,
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: so out.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, you gotta get this thing right. Like, I
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: know you love your coffee, but well now the details.
• 50:13
  Speaker 10: Look like you quit lifting.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Come you know this. I looked in December. We're just
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: talking about how I'm coming back in December.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Maybe at some point, he.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Says, he stays ready. So you don't have to get.
• 50:23
  Speaker 10: Ready using my ship.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Oh I love that you faced. You faced last year.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Hey, can you cover a punt? We were covering punts
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: the next week.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: Go.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so your dad gets fired, you're gonna walk
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: on there.
• 50:38
  Speaker 11: Yeah, go to Western Michigan, transfer to the Second Valley. In
• 50:41
  Speaker 11: the meantime, Brian Kelly was the head coach of Grand Valley.
• 50:45
  Speaker 11: He gets that Central job after I graduate, and I
• 50:49
  Speaker 11: go to Central Michigan as a grad assistant, and that's
• 50:51
  Speaker 11: where I'm at. Robert Sala, no ship, So you're connected
• 50:55
  Speaker 11: to fucking Sala. So we were roommates. We got there's
• 51:00
  Speaker 11: a lot of good stories that are probably not appropriate.
• 51:04
  Speaker 11: No no, no, no no no. So yeah, Sall and I
• 51:07
  Speaker 11: room together for a year, and uh. He went on
• 51:10
  Speaker 11: and went to Georgia, then got an opportunity with the
• 51:13
  Speaker 11: Texans and they had a QC position open a couple
• 51:17
  Speaker 11: of years later, and he was kind of pounding the
• 51:19
  Speaker 11: table for me with with Kyle Shanahan, with with Gary Kubiak.
• 51:23
  Speaker 11: And it's rare that a QC gets another QC a job,
• 51:27
  Speaker 11: because usually it's coordinator. They're not in the position to Yeah,
• 51:31
  Speaker 11: and I had met those guys. A couple of times
• 51:34
  Speaker 11: went down to the Combine. One year went to when
• 51:36
  Speaker 11: they were when they were playing the Browns. I was
• 51:38
  Speaker 11: coaching at Ashland University. Went up and hung out with
• 51:41
  Speaker 11: them for a night and got to meet those guys
• 51:43
  Speaker 11: so they could at least put a face with a name.
• 51:47
  Speaker 11: And sure enough, I'll never forget. Gary Kubiak calls and
• 51:50
  Speaker 11: he said, you know, we have an opportunity here.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Do you want to come?
• 51:54
  Speaker 11: I said, shoot, coach, I'll I'll get in my car tomorrow,
• 51:56
  Speaker 11: I'll be there. And so I drove down to Houston
• 51:59
  Speaker 11: from Ohio, and you know, I was there for two
• 52:01
  Speaker 11: years and I got to meet some great people. And
• 52:05
  Speaker 11: obviously Gary Kubiak is a guy that I got a
• 52:07
  Speaker 11: ton of respect for. And Kyle Shanahan was the offensive coordinator.
• 52:11
  Speaker 11: And here it is, Kyle's twenty eight years old. I'm
• 52:14
  Speaker 11: twenty eight years old, and I'm thinking to myself, man,
• 52:17
  Speaker 11: this guy can't know that much more than I do.
• 52:20
  Speaker 11: And I was blown away. I was like, holy shit,
• 52:23
  Speaker 11: it was next level. Oh it was. I was like, man,
• 52:26
  Speaker 11: I don't know anything about football. So it was a
• 52:30
  Speaker 11: two year crash course on just learning football at this level.
• 52:35
  Speaker 11: He's like, I got to tell people, it's like getting
• 52:38
  Speaker 11: your PhD in football, and especially when you're learning from
• 52:41
  Speaker 11: really great coaches and good people. And you know, Kob's Kyle,
• 52:45
  Speaker 11: Mike McDaniel was there as a quality control. Slid was
• 52:49
  Speaker 11: a quality control on the defensive side. So I mean
• 52:52
  Speaker 11: we had we had a pretty special crew. Yeah, I
• 52:55
  Speaker 11: mean that coaching trees. You guys are head coaches pretty
• 52:57
  Speaker 11: much everywhere right now.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: But I know you're gonna fuck I hate talking about
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: yourself and I'm gonna do my best to try to
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: make you do it.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: When a QC is banging.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: The table for you to get a job and you
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: end up getting the job after you do the meeting
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: and name to a face like what do you think
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: that you I want to say, what do you think
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: that you had? What do you feel like you believed
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: in that? Like that like put you in a spot
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: that you were like you executed at all times? Like
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: what do you think made you different enough to get
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: a job like that? Like what are what's the shit
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: that you got that puts you in a.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Position like that.
• 53:31
  Speaker 11: I just think it goes back to you know, there's
• 53:35
  Speaker 11: no substitute for hard work, and you've got to be
• 53:37
  Speaker 11: willing to put in the work and try to be
• 53:40
  Speaker 11: as detailed as possible. And I just remember there were
• 53:42
  Speaker 11: a lot of sleepless nights I had. We had Alex
• 53:45
  Speaker 11: Gibbs was our offensive line coach, and I'm doing the
• 53:49
  Speaker 11: run drawings, and my whole goal on Tuesday nights was
• 53:53
  Speaker 11: to get done with the run drawings so I could
• 53:56
  Speaker 11: go get maybe an hour or two hours of sleep.
• 53:59
  Speaker 11: And Alex was an early riser. He'd get in there
• 54:02
  Speaker 11: maybe before four am. And I'll never forget a couple
• 54:06
  Speaker 11: of times I'm like just finishing up the last run
• 54:08
  Speaker 11: and sure shit, I hear the door slamming incomes coach Gibbs,
• 54:13
  Speaker 11: and I knew there was no sleep in that night.
• 54:17
  Speaker 11: You just stay up, you work all night ers.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: And then he sees you there and clearly like that's
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: a feather in the cap of this.
• 54:23
  Speaker 11: That's not a feather in the cap. It's like, what
• 54:25
  Speaker 11: the hell's taking you so damn long? So you just
• 54:29
  Speaker 11: you know, but you you do whatever it takes to
• 54:32
  Speaker 11: get the job done.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Right right right now.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Going through when you were in Houston, Washington, like you've
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: gotten the opportunity to coach with a lot of great minds,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Like what are things that you feel like you've adopted
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: in your own to put in your own game through
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: like learning with McVeigh, Shanahan, Vrabel, all those guys along
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: the way.
• 54:49
  Speaker 11: Yeah, there's there's there's something that you learn from every situation.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: What's something that really stands out? So that way, maybe
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: you're not trying to think of too many things, Like no.
• 54:57
  Speaker 11: I think first and foremost just being around all these
• 55:00
  Speaker 11: guys is you got to be true to yourself and
• 55:02
  Speaker 11: and don't try to be somebody else because you know,
• 55:05
  Speaker 11: as a player, you see right through that and that's
• 55:08
  Speaker 11: that's not endearing to people. Nobody wants to be around that.
• 55:11
  Speaker 11: So I think it starts with being that and then
• 55:15
  Speaker 11: you know, being with dan Quinn was was a great
• 55:19
  Speaker 11: lesson for me, and just in terms of how much
• 55:22
  Speaker 11: fun we can have it work and still get everything
• 55:26
  Speaker 11: done that we need to get done, and just in
• 55:29
  Speaker 11: terms of the environment the culture.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: It kind of changed my view of of just coming
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: to work every day.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: I love that. How do you feel about my interviewing skills?
• 55:39
  Speaker 10: So far?
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Coast posession we look at it.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: He's already got it done.
• 55:44
  Speaker 11: Here.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: You got to get it close to your mouth. Now,
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: get that micro get that close to your mouth.
• 55:49
  Speaker 10: That sound good?
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Well, I know it doesn't, but we got to show.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: We got to show to operate.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: How do you feel like your boy's doing you know,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: not not punt setting, but it.
• 55:58
  Speaker 12: Looks like you're doing great. Met your wife. It's the
• 56:00
  Speaker 12: best thing ever happened to here.
• 56:04
  Speaker 11: Let's uh, he wouldn't have got his wife he hadn't
• 56:06
  Speaker 11: gotten those teeth fixed.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: She was with me before the teeth She would have
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: said she would have said no, And I gotten the
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Kay I got you because I met around Washington.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Well, your teeth looks phenomenal.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: I know dude leaf flir with every day because he's
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: on the offensive side.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: But we'd be sitting there getting our coffee in the
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: morning before meetings and he'd always come up and call me.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Would you call me smiley?
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: I don't, man, your teeth looks fucking amazing. I appreciate it.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: I spent a lot of money on him, like.
• 56:29
  Speaker 10: Me, I got buck teeth my whole life.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: So we got coach Massacia, which is a real which
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: is a real treat.
• 56:36
  Speaker 12: I think there's still you still got other stuff. You
• 56:38
  Speaker 12: want to talk to the coach about.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only a certain amount.
• 56:43
  Speaker 11: And I'm sure he's probably in here, like let's get
• 56:45
  Speaker 11: some more dynamic in because.
• 56:46
  Speaker 12: I think he sold himself short on the last stuff
• 56:49
  Speaker 12: that you asked him, and well people to it's hard
• 56:52
  Speaker 12: for people to talk about him. So I've been with
• 56:53
  Speaker 12: him a short time. His zeal for for football and
• 56:57
  Speaker 12: his attention to detail and his ability to see things
• 57:05
  Speaker 12: without someone telling them. And I mean I've been around
• 57:08
  Speaker 12: a lot of teams. You watch us practice, there's the
• 57:11
  Speaker 12: whole team that's behind the offense fifteen yards beyond the ball.
• 57:16
  Speaker 12: How many times guys get yelled at the back up,
• 57:17
  Speaker 12: back up the entire year. We don't say it one
• 57:19
  Speaker 12: time in practice. At one time the whole team move.
• 57:22
  Speaker 12: They don't move. They're fifteen yards beyond the ball, they
• 57:24
  Speaker 12: don't move. I mean, it's a disciplined schedule, it's a
• 57:26
  Speaker 12: discipline practice. Yet they're having a good time. They're flying
• 57:29
  Speaker 12: around to the football, and I think it's a credit
• 57:31
  Speaker 12: to you know, him and his zeal for football, his
• 57:35
  Speaker 12: respect for players, his drive to win games. I think
• 57:39
  Speaker 12: it's hard to talk about yourself personally, but I think
• 57:42
  Speaker 12: he sold himself short a little bit. I can tell
• 57:43
  Speaker 12: why he got hired, why he's moved like he's moved.
• 57:47
  Speaker 12: It gets to be obvious if you're around him for.
• 57:49
  Speaker 10: A little bit.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: So maybe that's the way we approach this. If I
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: have a question for you, maybe I asked besides you
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: by a question for what are the whole interview? What
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: are the uh what are the things you've learned about
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: coach Pisacia in the short time that you've had him,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Because I you know, I don't want to toot my
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: own horn, but we both know, we all know I
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: love toot my own horn a little bit. So after
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: the year's over, I get a nice FaceTime from coach
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Lafleur asking about asking about you, and just the way
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: he probably describes that QC pounding on the table to
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: get Lafleur down to Houston. I'm probably pounding, Not probably,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I am pounding the table, looking yelling at my phone,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: telling Lafleur, look, do whatever it fucking takes to get
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Bisacia in the in the building in Green Bay. With
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: that said, I just want to put that out there
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: in case you getting the pinch later in the year
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: and you're thinking about somebody with that being said, what
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: have you learned about coach Pisachi because you didn't really
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: know him prior to hiring him.
• 58:47
  Speaker 11: On Oh no, but I'll tell you what, when he
• 58:51
  Speaker 11: walks in the room, everybody sits up a little bit
• 58:54
  Speaker 11: straight or a little bit shoot. The best was our
• 58:59
  Speaker 11: first special team Rich comes in. He's talking all calm
• 59:04
  Speaker 11: about you know, not wearing hats and and a you
• 59:09
  Speaker 11: don't have to wear a hat, but if you do,
• 59:13
  Speaker 11: then get the fuck out.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: And I was like, immediately, oh shit, I was like this, Well,
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: I took my.
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: Hat off, just slowly kind of put it down.
• 59:24
  Speaker 11: Actually, no, I took my My hat was off. I
• 59:27
  Speaker 11: always I got a lot of respect for him. His
• 59:30
  Speaker 11: career kind of speaks for itself. And I'll tell you what, Uh,
• 59:34
  Speaker 11: you know, I didn't even think it was going to happen.
• 59:37
  Speaker 11: I thought the Raiders if they made the right decision,
• 59:41
  Speaker 11: no question. I mean, there was no decision in my mind.
• 59:44
  Speaker 11: So but you know, their loss is our game.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is juicy little does he not have some
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: of the best.
• 59:54
  Speaker 11: Speeches you've ever heard O unbelievable in front of like
• 59:57
  Speaker 11: in front of men who watch all the football movies
• 59:59
  Speaker 11: who've been motivated their entire life.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: But once you get to like a certain age and
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: point in your football or your sport athletic career, it
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: starts to get a little numb, Like, all right, this coach,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: like you said, you want to play to your strength,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: like you don't want to be somebody or not. So
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: you can see the coaches who give the bullshit stories
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: or the bullshit cliches like but when he gives a speech,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: it's it's like I'm back in Friday, watching Friday. I
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: like to remember the Titans back in high school.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 10: No, it is.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 11: It's so impressed. It's inspiring, it really is. But here's
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 11: what I love about Rich. He is obviously he's hard
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 11: on our guys and he's going to tell him the
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 11: truth and be honest, but he's just as good as
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 11: anybody that building them back up as well.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you do that?
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  Speaker 1: That shit is awesome, Like what do you think you've learned?
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  Speaker 1: Like this is actually a serious question, like because I
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  Speaker 1: try and explain at times, but it's kind of hard
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: to explain because you do like motherfuck, like you'll tear it,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: you'll tear us down. But there's this there's this like
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: bond I feel like that every player has with you
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: and I've only played with you. Like people talk about
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: me and the Raiders are me and like what was
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: it like playing for Rich or what was it like
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: when you were there? And I'm like, you, guys, gotta
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: remember I wasn't there at that time. I've played thirteen
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: games total, I think for the Raiders over the two
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: years old.
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  Speaker 3: Was there?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, but you've been around Adam Hayward. You play with
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 10: me for a long time.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: But still it's still like, you know when you pat
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: dud's on the chest and you talk about why you
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: pat dudes on the chest you want to feel their
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: heart and shit like you say some shit to where
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: it's like it's like real, Like how do you think
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: you're able to do that?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 10: We'll give it all my stuff out.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: We're trying to help people grow in their own life.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm I'm a firm believer that players want the truth.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 12: They want to know how we see it, so they
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 12: can either disagree and have a professional conversation about it
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 12: or they can go Okay, if that's what he's looking for,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 12: that's what I have to try to do. So and
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 12: I think it's rare that I demean the person. I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 12: think I demean the act of the player and that
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 12: they can fix. So now I'm not saying I haven't
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 12: gotten after guys on a personal level at times, but
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 12: I think if I do that, I've probably built some
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 12: form of a personal relationship with them as well.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 10: Before I do that.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Johnny Carson comment radio show.
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  Speaker 1: When I would do something wrong, like I would be
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: nervous the entire time it's happening. But I'm thinking, like,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: at least I know he's like kind of like joking
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: with me.
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  Speaker 12: I feel well, I just didn't know about what I mean,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 12: I'll fuck up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, put that on.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Your fucking radio show, Johnny Carson. I'm just sitting there
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: and everybody's like laughing, and I'm like thinking, guys, please
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: stop laughing, like this isn't helping and you can make
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: money at this stuff. No, I think as you were
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: talking to like I was thinking about, I'm thinking about
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: certain situations where you obviously address stuff in front of everybody,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: and you separate the act from the person. And then
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: not only that, are you dressed in front of everybody,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: which is like probably at first everybody's like, damn, he's
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: really ripping on me, like he's disrespecting me in front
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: of people. But then after the meeting, when you'll coach
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: the guy kind of in the same way but on
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: a more personable level, and in front of maybe two
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: or three guys, like you don't care who's standing there,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: you'll continue to be your same self and maybe get
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: on more of a personal level. And then even there,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: like guys, sometimes it's just a witness effect like, Okay,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: he's just like that. He's really trying to fucking coach
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: this guy the right way and also like love him
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: the right way as well, because everybody's a little bit different.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: But as you say that, I feel like those are
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: moments that kind of shape that stage two be that
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: open in front of everybody, well, special teams film. It's
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: a little bit different than O and D.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 12: And I've been on both sides of the ball, but
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 12: there's everybody sees it. You know, you can miss a
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 12: block as an offensive lineman and you got two more
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 12: downs to get it done. You can miss a tackle,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 12: you know, and I got two more chances to make
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 12: a tackle. You get one play, right, It's a it's
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 12: a defining play, kind of takes on a life of
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 12: its own, and everybody sees it. So if you go
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 12: by it, they're all like, you didn't go buy that
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 12: from me yesterday? Well why is he not? Why is
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 12: he not saying anything in wilbur here?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 10: You know what I mean? Is he not say anything
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 10: to hymns?
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  Speaker 12: So I think that you have to be honest with
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 12: them and that tape so that you can they're all
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 12: learning from that mistake because of the one play, if
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 12: that makes any sense. And I only get him for
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 12: a certain period of time, and they only have a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 12: certain period of time in their career. And we're usually
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 12: coaching guys that are you know, if they bring more
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 12: than a toothbos to training camp, they're kidding themselves, right,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 12: you've been there, So trying to get him as good
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 12: as you can, as quickly as you can, so they
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 12: can play for as long as they can. I just
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 12: think the more truths you can give them are more
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 12: this is how I'm wanting to see it, the better
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 12: chance they got to do it the way you're wanting
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 12: to see it. But you can't go buy a mistake.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 12: If you go buy a mistake, that's the new standard
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 12: you set, right. If you're gonna set a standard, you
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 12: got to hold him to the standard every time. And
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 12: when the standard is upheld, you're like, that's it, that's it.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 12: But you might have made a mistake because now I
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 12: know you can do it, so now you have to
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 12: do it every time. But if you go buy one
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 12: of your standards that you set as a standard, you
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 12: go buy it, well, that's the new standard you set, right,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 12: And so now they're all going to play to that one.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 12: So I want them to play to the highest standard
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 12: they possibly can for themselves.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Just give him a whistle, bro, Just give him a whistle.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: And do you just give it?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: When he got here, did you have I have one
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: conversation Like I'm gonna give you a whistle and you
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: just do your thing?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Rich He's great, He's got the keys of the car man.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 11: Like, no, seriously, but like there's so much stuff that
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 11: I've learned from him, you know, sitting in in those meetings.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 11: Not only from you know, a schematic standpoint or whatever
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 11: it may be, but just this guy's got a lot
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 11: of wisdom.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 11: I mean, he's been doing it at a high level
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 11: for a really long time. And he's authentic and that's
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 11: that is everybody can see that.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, having you both here, obviously, this question seems bigger
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: than what it is, because I know it's just gonna
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: be like you know, some some regular like it's.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: Gonna be more.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: It is what it is. But what do you guys
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: think it takes for Green Bay to get over the hump?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: You come in, you've been here, you hire him, You
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: come in, you sit back with them from kind of
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: a different lens.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: Or a different angle that you might be able to
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: give some.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Fresh blood or fresh perspective, Like what do you guys
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: sit back and think, like, all right, here's how he
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: might hay some certain situations or times of the year
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: this year, or like what's it going to take for
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: green Bay to get over the home.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 11: I think for us, it's just like we talked about earlier.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 11: We can't make bad mistakes at those times. I mean,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 11: you've got to be on your game because the margin
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 11: of error is so minuscule. You can't have, you know,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 11: a play before a half where we give up, you know,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 11: a touchdown pass to Tom Brady two years ago.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: We can't have a block punt. We can't have a
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: block field goal.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 11: We can't you know, we can't have a fumble when
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 11: we're driving. You just can't make those mistakes in those
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 11: big time games. And I also think that there's a
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 11: mentality to this too. You can't be afraid to go
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 11: for it and understanding that, hey, you know what, we
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 11: may fail. We may fail, but damn it, we're gonna
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 11: We're going to give it our best shot. I think
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 11: that that is more of a mentality that we're trying
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 11: to get everybody, don't be afraid of making a mistake.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 11: Really go for work, because if you don't, then you're
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 11: probably not gonna get there.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 10: Anyways.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think he's really good at that where he
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 12: just said, he's really good at keep the pedal to
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 12: the medal. Yet understand how we have to finish drives
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 12: or how we have to finish before the end of
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 12: the half, or I'm learning that for him, what a
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 12: star process is that way. And I think the other
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 12: thing he's done a great job of is whatever happens happened,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 12: don't you know, don't don't look in the rear of
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 12: your mirror anymore. Let's keep our eyes going forward. Let's
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 12: see what today looks like. We get a little bit
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 12: better today, let's see tomorrow looks like. And I think
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 12: he's done a great job with the team with that,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 12: you know. And so I'm trying to get in where
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 12: I fit in, you know what I mean. I just
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 12: and you know, we got ReBs in news alandbacker coach
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 12: and some guys got some new titles on offense. And
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 12: it's a staff for me, This staff and coach will
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 12: four of my conversation before he came here, and every
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 12: day with him. To be honest with you, I'm kind
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 12: of you know, I'm re energized. I'm gonna the mecca
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 12: of you know football, the Grace Italian of all time
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 12: coached here.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 10: And want you know I get.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 12: I get to be with a staff that love football,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 12: they love being around each other. I've been a coach
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 12: for the Foreshouse like three times, and all three times
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 12: he's got an indoor basketball court.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 10: Not to call him out, but it's with.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: This little uh newsboy and had ons only when it's cold.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 10: It's cold, that is.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 12: I've been there three times and every kid in the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 12: neighborhood is over there playing. And within the first fifteen
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 12: minutes of being over there, next thing, you know, the
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 12: doorbell rings and his wife's ordered food. Breeze ordered food,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 12: and all these kids come up. They got their shirts
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 12: are off, they're sweating, they're playing their rear ends off
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 12: in there, and they're all eating. They got pizza, they
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 12: got trying, they got everything in there, and I'm like,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 12: Breeze this she goes. That's like all the time you
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 12: want to use the pool, go used. I mean, I
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 12: just feel like it's a there we are trying to
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 12: build coaches trying to build a family community atmosphere within
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 12: the building. And then I think the players are understanding
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 12: the difference between that and what it is to have
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 12: a brotherhood of men and to be accountable to your
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 12: job and the guy next to you and in front
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 12: of your all those things. So I'm I'm enjoying them
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 12: in the direction that he is and the way in
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 12: which the staff competes and works with each other.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 10: It's it's it's been fun. I've been re energized.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: This is a dynamic.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: I love.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: I love all of this.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Right now, you guys fucking going back and forth. I
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: want to talk about coaching twelve because you've had the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: You've been around good quarterback You've been around great quarterbacks.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: You've been around Matt Ryan, You've been around who do
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: you havent in Houston?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 10: Shop?
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: I love Shop? Yeah, I mean you. He's one of
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: the most underrated guys right right.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: But like people might hear that and be like, okay, well,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: well pump the breaks some great But you've been around
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of like high level thinking quarterbacks that live
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: in the details of everything. What separates Aaron Rodgers or
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: how does he compare to all of the quarterbacks you've
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: been around. Like when you sit back and you're like,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: because you're not you're labeled if you talk to coaches
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: like you're labeled as like an offensive fucking minded detail,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Like how does he come up with certain shit? But
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: when you sit back and watch twelve work, like, what
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: is what has been different about him since you've got here?
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 11: Well, first of all, he loves ball. He loves ball.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 11: He's got an unbelievable memory. He'll remember stuff fifteen years ago.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 11: Aaron Rodgers memory or Sean mcvay's memory. Gun to your head. Ooh,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 11: that is a tough one, Sean. I know, Sean's got
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 11: a hell of a memory for the Barry trap of
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 11: a memory. They're both, they're both up there. Who would
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 11: you pick? You know, that's a great question. I'm gonna
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 11: have to go with Aaron. Okay, I'm I'm gonna have
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 11: That's interesting. That's awesome to hear too, because you were
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 11: talking about.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: Some like, man, I gotta support our players.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got support your boy.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 11: But no, they're both extremely sharp and but now Aaron
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 11: just he has a way of I think I was
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 11: telling you this the other day.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: I feel like his his left side of.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 11: His brain and his right side of his brain wor
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 11: operate independently of one another. He is the ultimate multitasker.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 11: He can be out on the field. He can be
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 11: observing what's happening with with the defense. If there's seven
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 11: guys in, I can be calling a play and he
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 11: can almost be having a conversation all the same time.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 11: It's the damnedest thing I've ever seen. The best was
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 11: a couple of years ago. We're playing Detroit.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 10: It was.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 11: It was it was the COVID year. So what was
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 11: that twenty twenty? Yeah, and we're down.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Hey, that's part of the Yeah, it's all right, I
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: tell you, guys can really this is gonna be good stuff.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 11: I can't wait for that conversation happening, but I'll never forget.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: So they showed an all out pressure.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 11: Look and I'm watching, you know, the play clock, and
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 11: it's five four three, And mind you, he is talking
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 11: to Tonyan. You get you're gonna have to ask him
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 11: about this. He's having a conversation with Tony and I'm thinking,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 11: there's no way he's going to get this ball snapped.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 11: He's telling him what to do, and as the clock
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 11: is hitting zero. He gets the ball snapped, and it
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 11: was probably gonna be a walk in touchdown where Bobby
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 11: blocks out and and then releases you know the old Uh.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 11: I don't know, a great cover zero beater, but I
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 11: don't think he's gonna get the playoffs. So I pop
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 11: a time out right before the snap, and he's like,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 11: God damn it that.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: But I just you know, it's just just started ripping you.
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  Speaker 11: Like, No, it's a it's a great It was a
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  Speaker 11: trust that this guy, I mean, he's so aware of
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  Speaker 11: everything that's gonna go that that's going on, that he'll
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  Speaker 2: Cool? Yeah, No, this has been fucking awesome. That's an
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  Speaker 1: Like, like, how does it like when he comes over
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  Speaker 1: you know how the outside world to be too, just
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  Speaker 3: I'll look at Coach Roger talking to Lafleur.
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  Speaker 3: How did you feel?
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  Speaker 1: Here's what I want to ask because I always tell
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  Speaker 1: this story when I was on the Raiders and the
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Titans came to town. We obviously lost to the Titans,
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  Speaker 1: and there was a ceremony after the game where I
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: collected like in the fifteen jerseys, and we always talk
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: about it because I always talk about how nervous I
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: was going up into the locker room afterwards and the
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: whole next week. You kind of mentally and verbally had
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: your with me to where I didn't feel like I
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: was like you feel like you fuck up in that
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: moment because we're in the bubble of playing ball.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm thinking, like I've I've like.
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  Speaker 2: This is these are relationships like this.
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  Speaker 1: Once we get outside of the season and a year
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: gets your moves like this would be something I look
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: at and be like this was fucking cool. But how
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: much did you actually hate me during that time or
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: like did you think anything different?
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  Speaker 10: I hates a strong word. I was really I was
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  Speaker 10: disappointed in you, and.
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  Speaker 3: It does it really, But I knew that it.
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  Speaker 12: Was in the moment. When it's over. Now, I may
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 12: bring it back and pop at you if you know
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 12: and then, but it was over. But at that time
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 12: that's how I felt. So it's hard for me. If
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 12: I feel something at a particular time, I'd rather not
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 12: wait to let it out.
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  Speaker 10: I'm just gonna kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Jersey wants you go play for their fucking team, Like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm sitting there ship.
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  Speaker 10: No, I don't remember them calling him. That's the point
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 10: that we called them them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because uh, it was always interesting with you because
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: guys would be like called rich Fox with the other
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: back guys, I'm like rich focks with me because there's
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: a couple of people that we both know very well,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: and they probably, like you know, stamped my name for him.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: But between the jersey thing, there'd be a couple of
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: reps that I would I fucked up on, like and
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: walk throughs or like my stuff would be serious and
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: I would like mess something up because I'm either you know,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: I'm too locked in, I'm seeing too much, you know
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But when he called me for the
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: second time, or when he was like, why did you
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: go back to the Titans? Whenever I sign with the Titans,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: when the Raiders had an offer too, like when we
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: kind of had our relationship beyond that first year, I
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: was like, I didn't know Basachia fucked with me because
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I thought truth be told, I thought you didn't like
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  Speaker 1: me for the longest time, mostly because of that jersey debacle.
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  Speaker 12: Well i'd be along list of those guys that don't
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 12: think I like them. But I called you again, didn't I?
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 12: You did so again? For me, I just I can't
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 12: wait to come to work, to be around the players.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 12: My three priorities in life for my wife, my kids,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 12: and the players. That's it. I don't have enough room
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  Speaker 12: in me, my makeup. I don't have enough room for
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 12: all that other stuff. So the players that love it
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 12: and their actions show that they love it. I love
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 12: those players, and that's why I can't wait to come
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 12: to work in the morning. It doesn't matter what I'm
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 12: coaching position, it's irrelevant. It's football. I get to do
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 12: this for a living. My dad worked for a living.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 12: He had hands of sampaper. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 12: I get to do this, and it's about players. Players
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 12: make plays, right, So if I get to come to
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 12: work and help a player make his dreams come to fruition,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 12: it's like wow. You know, that's what we're all looking
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 12: to do. You know, that's the wow factor for us
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 12: to what we do for a living. That's the payback,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 12: you know what I mean. That's the payback to see
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 12: those guys individually have personal success and then collectively in
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 12: this sport. Now, you know baseball, you play all those games,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 12: you just go to bat and practice. You gonna play
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 12: passive play, play all those game. They got to eat
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 12: this stuff for seven days. Yeah, win a loss, right,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 12: And the difference Jason Witten taught me difference between a
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 12: pat in the back and the kicking the ass is
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 12: six inches. Well, if you stay too long in that
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 12: pat in the back, you're getting ready to get a
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 12: kick in the ass. You stay too long in that
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 12: kick in the ass, you know you may never get
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 12: to pat in the back again.
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  Speaker 10: So it's just it's a matter of players.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot to say that you love me, and
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: I just want you to know I love you too.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys for coming on. Hey, and just no,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: I said this before, but this kind of vibe, this
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: could be every day. I just want you to just
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: keep that in mind. If you guys ever need a
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: you ever need a right guard on punt, you ever
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: need a backup linebacker, Like.
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  Speaker 10: Just know, once you read that story, how you got
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 10: shit scared that I had to put your tackle. I'm
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 10: up at a guard. It's because your legs are on
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  Speaker 10: this long.
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  Speaker 1: No, but when you're when you're on tackle. But when
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: you're on tackle, you're on you know, you got to
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: be quick now. Fortunately, like you know, my ability took over.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: But the most comfortable spot is the guard because you're
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: probably going to get to release and go make a
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: tackle first. When you're when you're a tackle, you have
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: to spend a lot more time like blocking and fucking
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: the tackles.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 10: You have to run better. That's why you're another reason
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 10: you're better well.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: And I'm trying to get out fast.
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  Speaker 3: But you kind of shot me on that one too.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: But that tackle the whole fucking vibe like it wasn't
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: until like Washington, I got to be I got to
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: be on Pump Return. It wasn't until Tennessee with Ackerman
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: and then Besadesa. They would just talk about my arms
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't even get a look on Pump Return,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't even it was like a water breaking.
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  Speaker 10: Hold anybody up, that's what you thought. You never tried
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 10: me out like the Shaquille O'Neal of little people.
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  Speaker 2: I love you guys, man, I appreciate you guys coming on.
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  Speaker 1: We got to get the better on here, because I
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: know we only got like probably eight minutes