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Eric Church Got Fired By Taylor Swift & Rascal Flatts + Explains His Viral Stagecoach Set | Bussin' · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 2: I know what my heart says and I know what
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  Speaker 3: Willie will start with you. I knows on the White
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  Speaker 3: House lawn, go ahead, I'm picking against the American. It's
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  Speaker 3: a crazy move. That's a crazy I'll tell you where
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  Speaker 3: I'll take where my heart's gonna go. The Mike Chandler,
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  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, brother, hell yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So Unfortunately, I'm with Will okay, and that's all I
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  Speaker 4: say about that.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta go with the American no matter what the
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  Speaker 5: outcome is. The first fight at the White House, you
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  Speaker 5: have see two point fifty celebrating. Got at least just
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  Speaker 5: pull for the Stars and Shrives. Even if you're wrong,
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  Speaker 5: We're talking about who we want to win. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: mean I want the American, every American to win. But yeah, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if Gaechee will win. But Stars and stripes.
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  Speaker 6: Taylor said it right, like my my head's one place,
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  Speaker 6: my heart's another spot.
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  Speaker 3: It's true. It's true because you do. We sit there.
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  Speaker 2: I have the same thought process as Jack. Right, fifty stars,
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  Speaker 2: thirteen bars, These colors never run.
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  Speaker 3: Gaichee.
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  Speaker 2: Something about being on a White House lawn while fireworks
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  Speaker 2: are going off and he's just catching a Spaniard in
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  Speaker 2: the jaw and he goes down around one. That juices
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  Speaker 2: me up. I get a little blood flow underneath when
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  Speaker 2: I think about that. But I watched Iliot Tapoier walk
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  Speaker 2: in to UFC in Las Vegas. I watched him stare
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  Speaker 2: down Olivera and then look over and give it a
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  Speaker 2: fist bump to one of the guys in a red suit,
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  Speaker 2: a security standpoint. We look over at Hunter Campbell and
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  Speaker 2: give him a wink and in round one give him
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  Speaker 2: a piece to the jaw and he just goes.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't even break a sweat.
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  Speaker 2: So with that being said, my two fifty profit boost
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  Speaker 3: I want it.
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  Speaker 2: I need it for America. But my god, that's spaniard.
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  Speaker 2: The way he walks out that aura, it reminded me
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  Speaker 2: of Pereira that when you walked in here like that,
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  Speaker 2: man's just operating a little bit differently, could see something different,
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  Speaker 2: always hoped to see something different, hope to see something
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  Speaker 2: like his odds aren't longer than Rocky bay Boy and
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  Speaker 2: four Gogains, Ivan Drago.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. I wish he was fighting a Russian. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that would be incredible. And we needed to be outmatched
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  Speaker 3: like Ivan Dragoon Rocky would. Yeah. We need the whole world.
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  Speaker 2: We need every podcast in the world to be like no,
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  Speaker 2: Shot Gates, She's gonna win the Gate. You gets it done. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's what you want. Michael Chandler. Will Compton already said it.
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  Speaker 2: He'll be fighting in this fight against a.
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  Speaker 3: Frenchman, a French. We gotta take down the french Man,
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  Speaker 3: gotta take down the French. I got there to win
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  Speaker 3: the World Cup, but not two fifty birthday baby. We
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  Speaker 3: we we we indeed. Yeah, when it comes to physically
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  Speaker 3: imposing your will, this is where we need American to
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  Speaker 3: step up.
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  Speaker 2: We need we needed to happen. I need to see
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  Speaker 2: old school Michael Chandler take the governor off. Kid, fist
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  Speaker 2: just absolutely flying, and let's put him down round one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, put him down. I need to see seven backflips
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  Speaker 3: out of the kid.
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  Speaker 6: Do you think he puts the gloves down?
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't think he knows how to
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  Speaker 3: put the gloves.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think this is the squad in
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  Speaker 2: this bus that will eventually have to go to his
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  Speaker 2: house and be like, it's time. It has to be over. Man,
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  Speaker 2: you're you're done. Look at your wife, Brie, She's such
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  Speaker 2: a sweet one. You need to be here now, all right,
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  Speaker 2: It's time to get after it, like.
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  Speaker 4: Have just turned thirty exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Had some fun callbacks from also Alex Prera. Alex Prea's
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  Speaker 2: fighting in the fight.
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  Speaker 4: He's fighting another French honor Arey American.
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  Speaker 3: Honorary American Chapa Chaupa trauma JP. What do you what
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  Speaker 3: do you think about Dana saying if he wins gets
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  Speaker 3: a third title, he'll be the goat over John Jones.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with it.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's taken down all of the best fighters
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  Speaker 4: ever minus John Jones, in the toughest weight classes, and
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  Speaker 4: he just he did it like as.
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  Speaker 3: A hitman, Yeah, like coming over from kickboxing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that just kind of adds more to
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  Speaker 4: his storyline because the storyline plays such a big role
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  Speaker 4: in like these guys legacy and Peira has one of
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  Speaker 4: the best storylines.
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  Speaker 3: I hope he gets it done now.
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  Speaker 2: I think, forgive my ignorance, the dude do that walk
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  Speaker 2: out and I'm so excited. We did say a few
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  Speaker 2: boys are going to be at this fight. Well, Compton,
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  Speaker 2: myself and JP Hovey will be at this fight. It'll
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  Speaker 2: be incredible. The walkout, we've been able to experience those
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  Speaker 2: drums going him doing yeah, this thing right here walking
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  Speaker 2: over and that arrow, buddy, It's it's a movie. It's
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  Speaker 2: goosebumps every single time you get to see it.
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  Speaker 3: It's very cool. Where y'all sitting or I So, I
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  Speaker 3: have confirmed that we will be on the White House
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  Speaker 3: long because I know there's like five thousand seats in
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  Speaker 3: that area.
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  Speaker 2: I've confirmed with a sweet Nicole, Dana's assistant about that
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  Speaker 2: because there is like a watch party that's eighty six thousand,
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  Speaker 2: and then my brain kind of goes to it's a
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  Speaker 2: cool event, but if it's if we're in the watch
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  Speaker 2: party area, it might be better for all of us
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  Speaker 2: maybe have like a boys watch party taking place in Nashville, Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: But once I heard that we will be on the
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  Speaker 2: the South Lawn, I mean, dude, iconic.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll move a couple things around it. Well,
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  Speaker 3: we'll make it happen, because this is gonna be It's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be a banger. This entire week. We have coming up
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  Speaker 3: with Dad. We have a Dad combine. We have a
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  Speaker 3: couple of big things in the horizon that we're not
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  Speaker 3: gonna talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Racing with the boys. We got four of the dads. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: we're ripping every single week. We got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: stuff going on. This fight's happening Sunday. We got to
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  Speaker 2: be back Monday for a big time interview. Yeah, big
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  Speaker 2: time intro. So we got a lot of stuff to
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  Speaker 2: get done on that Monday as well. So, yeah, sleep's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit deprived.
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  Speaker 3: All good. We got the energy, energy, and we do
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  Speaker 3: the work, dude. Yeah, for the country, indeed, for the country.
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  Speaker 2: Last week we had the goat on Travis Pastrana, one
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  Speaker 2: of the greatest human beings to ever walk this earth,
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  Speaker 2: one of the most influential people to ever walk this earth, athletes,
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  Speaker 2: most innovative athletes of all time. There was a dollar
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  Speaker 2: bet that took place between me and him, just to
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  Speaker 2: shake his hand. It was enough for me to just
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  Speaker 2: go to bed happy every single life the rest of
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  Speaker 2: my life. But Neil Porcelli one, two, three eight says
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  Speaker 2: Travis will go down as one of the most influential
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  Speaker 2: innovative athletes ever. Just said that the range of sports
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  Speaker 2: in which he dominated dominates is incredible, all tied into
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  Speaker 2: him being an awesome dude. Definitely someone you have your
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  Speaker 2: kids watch and look up to.
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more. Maybe not do all
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  Speaker 3: the things that he does. You know, And I thought
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  Speaker 3: you had an incredible question, would you want your kids
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  Speaker 3: to do what you did? Because you watch him walk around,
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  Speaker 3: like I think his gate when he's walking is like okay,
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  Speaker 3: maybe he's okay, but then he goes to like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: put his arm up or maybe stumbles a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: and you're like, oh you got yeah, you got the
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  Speaker 3: x ray. That's not really the x ray, but that's
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  Speaker 3: your x ray type of bias. You know, he's just
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  Speaker 3: looking for some camaraderie. He's just looking for some comarade.
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  Speaker 3: And hey, guy can get some jaw sets in too.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. Yes, sure, I.
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  Speaker 7: Did have one follow up that one to say for today.
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  Speaker 7: He is a hero of yours. You got to meet
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  Speaker 7: one of your heroes. You played it very very cool.
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  Speaker 7: When he was sitting in Will's chair right there, and
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  Speaker 7: he turned to you and he said, you gotta come
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  Speaker 7: out to Pastrana Land and you very quickly kind of
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  Speaker 7: glazed over your answer and said, yeah, that sounds great,
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  Speaker 7: but how did that feel like inside your body, inside
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  Speaker 7: your brain?
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  Speaker 2: Felt incredible, felt incredible that not only he did that,
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  Speaker 2: but he tried to make a couple of plants, Includis
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  Speaker 2: McFarlane November thirteenth. They have that big races that you
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  Speaker 2: guys gotta come out. Behoove him to have us come
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  Speaker 2: out as well. Yeah, he's already in his brain. His
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  Speaker 2: agenda has busted with the boys will come off in
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  Speaker 2: Arlwan with him in the future. And that juices me
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  Speaker 2: up because there's been a Yeah, that's amazing. Has you
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  Speaker 2: and his plans, bros? Has me and his plants now?
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  Speaker 2: Have those plans still in there?
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  Speaker 3: I hope? So, I hope. So he could have left
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  Speaker 3: the shop and it could have just been like, like,
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  Speaker 3: what do we got next?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it was. It's awesome to have It was
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  Speaker 2: cool to sit there.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm no joke.
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  Speaker 2: I said this after and you'll see it on under
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  Speaker 2: the Hood, but I did say when he was breaking
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  Speaker 2: down his double backflip and explaining it and the details
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  Speaker 2: of what he's explaining it. I'm no joke, sitting in
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  Speaker 2: this chair holding back tears. I was just saying there,
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  Speaker 2: like I I can't believe he's talking about something that
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  Speaker 2: is such a huge core memory in my life, knowing
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  Speaker 2: where I was when it happened. Then I caught myself
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  Speaker 2: being like, hey, you're gonna cry right now.
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  Speaker 3: You should have little are you gonna cry right now?
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, crying about.
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  Speaker 7: The double backflip the girlfriend's house to watch it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, shout out Laura Shockley, dude, her and
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  Speaker 2: her dad, Jimbo.
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  Speaker 3: Jimbo dude.
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  Speaker 2: He's a marine and he could just sit there and
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  Speaker 2: he'd have a chew in his I swear to god,
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  Speaker 2: I'd never seen lipgo out that far in my entire life.
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  Speaker 3: Man A few words, but really cool guy.
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  Speaker 2: And we sat there were watching and he was like
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  Speaker 2: pretty cool. I'm like, this is the craziest thing I've
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  Speaker 2: ever seen in my life.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The Pastona Land thing is that Jas obviously, Will comes,
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  Speaker 2: being a great friend that he is, him and my
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  Speaker 2: wife colluded together to get us to Pastroona l And
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  Speaker 2: for my birthday one year ended up not working out.
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  Speaker 2: There's been a handful of times that we've.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of too shift back.
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  Speaker 2: I know, over and over, we'll make it happen eventually.
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  Speaker 2: That being said is that there's a fear that takes
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  Speaker 2: place if they we're actually going there, because we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to do things and probably get hurt.
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  Speaker 3: Like they're gonna make us do stuff.
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  Speaker 6: But you did it with traffic Restrana, Like I got hurt.
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  Speaker 6: I broke my collar bone with Travis.
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  Speaker 3: Patrona and it still dude, Like I got heroes, but
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  Speaker 3: I also got this body that it's seemed a lot
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  Speaker 3: of damage, you know, nothing to him. I got a function,
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  Speaker 3: you know. But he's so he's so calloused. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think he feels pain, bro I don't think he's
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  Speaker 3: got the idea of pain in his head.
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  Speaker 6: He doesn't get scared until ship hits the fan. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: and that's why that's when he's in his foot, that's
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  Speaker 6: that's his comfort zone.
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  Speaker 3: It's incredible, it's incredible. Yeah, you know, we might have
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  Speaker 3: to draw the line on a couple of things. If
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  Speaker 3: I know, okay, this is this is where everything goes,
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  Speaker 3: But what do all of it? Probably? I just want
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  Speaker 3: to watch, I mean, I do like a man would
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  Speaker 3: I do the trampoline. Hell no, bro, But I said,
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  Speaker 3: Bloss tours pattill attendant at a trampoline park. He started,
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  Speaker 3: he started show us the trampoline. All I thought about
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  Speaker 3: was Bloss. I'm like, I ain't doing this ship.
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  Speaker 6: Ride one into like the phone I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 6: you gotta but just a simple ride into the phone pit,
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  Speaker 6: fall into it.
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  Speaker 3: You wouldn't They have a ramp that goes that's like
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  Speaker 3: right on the phone pit, so you can just kind
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  Speaker 3: of kind of yeah, you might just drive it up
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  Speaker 3: on the ramp and then get off and then jump
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  Speaker 3: in the phone pit. You're running down the ramp. If
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  Speaker 3: there was like a fifty foot kicker and they're like,
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  Speaker 3: jump this in the phone pit, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: my brain would allow me to accelerate enough and then
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  Speaker 3: as I'm accelerated enough on my street, like and I
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  Speaker 3: would let off the throttle and then I'm laying somewhere
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  Speaker 3: between the phone pit and the ramp. Here's what here's
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  Speaker 3: my say. It's also you're at Pistranolan, no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: And I love it you're saying that way because this
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  Speaker 2: is my save, this is my saving grace. Here I
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  Speaker 2: have you and as impulsive as an individual as I am.
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  Speaker 2: I got the thinker to my side, and when you
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  Speaker 2: go no, I just gotta stay up my head.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Will says no. I said, Okay, that's what I
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  Speaker 3: gotta do. Will said it, So I can't. I'm actually
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  Speaker 3: his head. Be your I'll be your head of safety,
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  Speaker 3: of safety. I'll do it one hundred. I know you will. Mitch, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I know you. We got to bring Delanny out for
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  Speaker 3: that too. Gotta bring Will do some shit too. I
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  Speaker 3: do have one thing to say about Delanny, but I'll
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  Speaker 3: wait because this is an incredible callback for Will Compton.
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  Speaker 3: Bama Don Don, Yeah, go ahead, two forty two Mark
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  Speaker 3: Bama Don Don had a nice laugh when I said, Wow,
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  Speaker 3: this is nuts us the gun on the dirt bike.
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  Speaker 3: That's our head of safety. Cry, laughing emojis all over
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  Speaker 3: the check. Go ahead and leave the comment, Willy. The
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  Speaker 3: timing was genuinely perfect and hilarious. Hell, I'm glad you
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  Speaker 3: enjoyed that, Bama. He was looking for some camaraderie.
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  Speaker 2: My one thing to say about Delaney, that guy crushed
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  Speaker 2: it on racing with the boys. He was incredible. I
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  Speaker 2: had no idea what to expect We've seen him in
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  Speaker 2: the locker room. We know how Delaney is at all times.
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  Speaker 2: He was prepared, He asked great questions, he had follow
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  Speaker 2: up questions. Good conversation with a guy William Byron, who
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  Speaker 2: everyone says is a dude that keeps to himself quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit. He came out out of the show he
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  Speaker 2: was awesome to be around because he's like, he's a
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  Speaker 2: gamer that transitions into racing right, yes, he.
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  Speaker 6: Said after the show, He's like, that's the most I've
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  Speaker 6: ever talked dude ever.
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  Speaker 3: And he was great the entire time. I truly enjoyed
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  Speaker 3: his company. But Delaney was It was awesome, dude. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I loved it. Delanne. He's a stud.
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  Speaker 6: He was holding them if we want to transition. He
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  Speaker 6: was holding court at Taylor's the barbecue we had.
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  Speaker 3: He always holding court with all like the interns and everything. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: oh y, you look around. You go on the corner
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  Speaker 3: of the lane, He's got a group of people stay around.
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  Speaker 6: He's got fresh blood that doesn't know all of the stories.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: So he's just rechelling, telling all the sorties. And he
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: says his interns, his eyes are this big, and I'm
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: just soaking into Lanny Walker and all is Gloria.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: We can get into this weekend absolutely. Just a second,
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: we have one more from Christian Newness seventeen seventeen. Intern
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Chris fucking Rules.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: You do a lot of comments, loving Chris, A lot
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: of comments loving Chris. The only thing that fears me
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: about all the comments, It'll be gasoline for him because
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: he can talk.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Now, I would listen. I've said this to a few people.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: I've said this to a few people on this bus.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Chris is dangerously close to being too much. He's got
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: a fine line. He's got a rip because sometimes I'm
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: doing something and I'm like in my brain, I'm like,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: i gotta go do X, Y and Z and on
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: the whale. But Chris, baby, how are you? And You're like, oh,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: I'm doing great, tailor, And He'll just start going and
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of caught, like I'm in my fourth step
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: away from you, but you're still going to where I
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: need to turn around now.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Like every sixty seconds, I'll just have to take another
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: step to where my hand is on right the door,
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: and he's my hand is on the handle, and I'm
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: like lifting it up and I'm just looking up in
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: the rafters, still listening to him. Yeah, and then he stops.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: And then I made the mistake by just asking another question.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: And with which, for whatever reason, happens every time because
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: he's so I was just.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Making a joke too. I was like, did you talk
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: a lot as a kid as well? And he's like,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: well yeah. Then he goes into a story. I like
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: the yap. I like to get after. It was pretty good, Chris,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Thanks dude, you do, thank you. Yeah.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: He interviewed all the interns on inside the bus and
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: he was the last one, and it very quickly turned
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: into him interviewing us.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: I mean we had no control, and fifteen minutes later
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: we're like, all right, we gotta wrap up.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: He didn't take of breath the whole time, which is incredible.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think the guy ever takes an inhale. He's
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: talking right now. He's talking right now.
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: In dream uh dream scenario was Delaney being in office
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: U the other day for racing with the boys, meeting
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: Chris and those two is literally like, kid, y'all just go.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Put them, give him the stream room. Just you guys
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: go in here. They were crushing it, Yeah, crushing two
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: completely different personalities just but they would jail no matter what.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Two individuals can jail with literally anybody, Yes, anybody. Yeah,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: but hey, shout out the callbacks.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: If you want to do a callback, you hit this one,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Eric Church, this episode, you do a callback in there.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: If you we like it, we love it. The pre
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: pro boys, they grab it and we'll put it on
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: the show. You're more than well. We also have tear
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: talks as well.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Will hit.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: At the end of this intro, Big Week for Busting
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: with the Boys. Big Week took place all right, Will Compton,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: he was in Italy. We had Bustin Bash twenty twenty six.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: On Friday, we went out with the boys. First time
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I've been on Losers in about seven years. I'll be honest,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: it'll be another seven, you know, it'll be another seven.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: It was fun. It was a great time. Great, it
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: was a great time. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Once I knew Mitch was going, I felt better about
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: going because Mitch is in his thirties and I was like,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: all right, okay.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Damn, I listen, I'll take I remember being like twenty one,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: twenty two years old at Losers and these guys will
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: be like thirty five to thirty seven, been like, what
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: are you all doing here? This is a little much
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: I turned twenty eight in two weeks.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, you said thirty.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: No Mitch thirty, His soul was thirty, brol.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I'm not taking that as a slight. No, no, no, no,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: old soul, old soul Mitchie.
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: But like Brooke was like ready to go home, Like, hey,
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: Taylor's coming. Taylor never ever does this. We got to
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: stay out. He's got a timer on his phone for
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: one hour. Once he leaves, we can leave.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That hour turned into two three. Yeah, in three hours.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I stayed three hours, but closed it down. It was
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: closed down.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: No, I went right home. I took chef, put him
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: in my uber. He slipped in my cabin Friday night.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I wake up Saturday morning. We go to the farmer's
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: market with the kids, and I have a call from
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: chev at like ten thirty. I've been at the farmer's
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: market for an hour and he's like you still here?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Was like, no, budd, I'm at the farmer's market.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Hey.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, well, hey, may I appreciate you. I'm
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: gonna go fishing.
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, hey, I was telling jp. Uh
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: how Matt was acting when he showed up. Eventually, I
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: was like, I was just excited to see the boy.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Like we're out, Like Matt and I go out maybe
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: once every two months. He comes walks by. Ohr, t Hey,
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: t just gave me a half assed dap. Wanted to
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: see Taylor, like just literally not even looking at me,
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: just put his hands out. He was so excited to
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: see Taylor, but couldn't give less of a funk about me.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Damn. Like, but yeah, it was like, allright, to be fair,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: to be fair. I mean, it's the first time I've
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: been out. I agree, ever, I agree. It was fun. Man.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: We had a I just spent a lot of money
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: getting all the boys hammered, and I was sipping on
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: a couple of neutrals.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Guys, let's take a shot. Like I'm not taking a shot.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: That's so what are these things? Rupier shots? You got Brooks?
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: That's the new Yeah, that's the new phase taking place.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: You got you got Brooksy like five of them.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Brooks was out there. We're five minutes of Taylor.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I'll fucking die for you tonight. Anyone fucking tries you.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking if somebody tries me, I'm gonna leave dude,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: two kids, I'm I'm not fighting.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I will fucking die for you tonight.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: That's like yours like power rankings of the vibe. You
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: don't have to like rank them with numbers, but like
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I gotta get a little bit of inside ball and
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: how everybody was acting.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Matt God, I won't start with Matt. I'll give you
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: my Tier one of the night. The Tier one vibe
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: of the night was Ryan Nolan. I mean something about
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: that kid man when you got he's got eyes on
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: him too. I'll just tell you that that's all as
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: far as all go. But this guy, he's got eyes
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: circulating around Ryan Nolan. It's that it's that middle quoth
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: that takes place. And he's got a jovial a little
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: bounce to him, right, He's got a little bounce, always smiling,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: seems like a happy cat. He's very inviting personality, so
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I was. It was fun to watch him quite a bit.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: In Terns were definitely like a like a flock of
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: like of sheep almost. They were kind of like all
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: all together. They didn'tant, they didn't want to break one away.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I felt they were stronger in numbers, so it's hard
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: to kind of differentiate any of them. You got to
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: go with I'll give Brooke my tier too. Broke, No Brook,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: your Brook and Hey, phenomenal woman. Every time I've seen
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Brooke the last seven times I reintroduced myself to Brook.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: That's how bad I am. You talk about CTESPN. That's me.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I go up, Hey, nice to meet you. She's like, yeah,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: we've met, and she was so cool about it. I
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: was like, hey, I'm never fucking this up again, dude,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I can't do that, and probably goes to Mitchie.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Baby.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I would give that. I would give it to Mitch.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: He just he just could tell. He was just he
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: was the foundational pillar piece of everybody.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: All the interns out Uh it was Brooks, Henry and Dirk.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Ryan was out of town. Chris is only twenty.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Brooks, Henry, and Dirk Power ranked those three.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: In Taylor's defense before he says anything, I feel like
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: they were maybe not Brooks, but Henry and uh Dirk
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: were a little like little gun shy, a little shy,
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: little gun shy, especially like being out with their boss.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Kind of have a girlfriend as well. Yeah, yeah, I did.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I liked Henry's vibe. He's got I think he's got
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: like a Ryan Nolan vibe about it. Very seems very
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I would just have Joe Burrow to just yeah, we
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: have Joe Burrow.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's essentially if Ryan Nolan worked out, that's
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: that's that's why Nolan. That's why I Nolan fifteen pounds
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: of muscle extra right there.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: I'll go Brooks next because his enthusiasm was incredible, and
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: then uh and then yeah, yeah, I mean that was
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: the three. Yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, dude, Dirk that arm, he's got
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: the dog bite because I think who uh was it?
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I think it was Coop and Chef for the first
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: one to show up at at Bustin Bash and they're like, hey,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Dirk was talking about your dogs.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Are they friendly?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what's what's going on there? Have you seen
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: his arm? I was like, no, I haven't, And he
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: came in, he showed it to me, tell me a
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: story about his cousin and a pit bull. I'm like, dude,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: first off, your cousin's an idiot. What a dumb guy
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: he is. That's such a dumb move.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: He worked that story into his job interview here.
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: I don't know how, but he told me that during
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: round one of interview No way, Yeah, I don't know
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: how we got.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: To, he said.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: When he gets drunk, he's like, I don't text like
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: an ex girlfriend. I text my cousin if you like.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: But then it was a good time. I think the
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: vibes the boys were awesome.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what, this sleep score, man, it's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: just so bad. I have to sit here now on
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: a Monday, and I'm like, I don't know how you
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Fellers do it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: I was telling Taylor, I'm like, one boss down, I
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: need the second boss to come out. And Taylor was like,
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: he's never fucking he knows this boy.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: He knows this boy.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: You know how I feel like has an incredible sleep score.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Every night is Bill Compton.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Billy Billy sees off the sea. Pat Machine was gone.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Bill Rivalry's oldest time came back to life him versus
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: s'mores over the weekend. I'll tell you what more and
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: more beach Guy, Willie Beach Willy beach Boy, Willie Beach Boy,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Great Bookiey Boarding Weather, the rip ties were all time,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Like you play saving Private Ryan on the beach where
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: you're just getting taken. We're just getting caught up by
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: the waves or roofs trying to save me. Rue has
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: zero concept of time. She never gets bored. She just
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: wants to constantly jump over the waves. Scotti has absolutely
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: zero fear. She could get taken by the waves and
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: she I think she'd be smiling the entire time. She's
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: an absolute liability on the beach. But great vibes on
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: the beach, building sand castles, digging holes. I feel like
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I'm more of a dig a hole guy than i
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: am sandcastle guy. Keep Scotty busy in the hole, burying
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: each other in the sand. Like we just had a
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: great time. We're about a thousand steps from walking to
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: the beach every day, so slow mornings, like late nights,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: standing up playing uno. It was just an all time
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: good vibe. We had a bombfire one night where we
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: got with some friends. They joined us. We had about
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: fifteen of us ripping around making somemores. It was a
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: boy got kissed by the sun a little bit. Both
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: girls their hair just gets blonde when they're out in
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: the sun all time, weekend, all time weekend. In thirty
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: eight in the Italy of U in the Italy of America. Yeah,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: thirty A is really growing on me over and over again.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I used to be anti, used to especially be anti Alice.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: And then you go there, the convenience fact that takes place.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Go there, call him hey when this many chairs set up, some'mores,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: tacos if you want them, whatever. You go in there
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: and it's already ready for you. And when you're ready
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: to go, you just ninja smoke and get out of there.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: It is a vibe. Another secret spot. I mean sure
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: you didn't live there, right, used your grandma lived there.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: But Great, greaton Beach.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Great Beach where Brian Kelly is located, which shout out
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: to Brian Kelly, which.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Brian Kelly, Brian Kelly LSU ball coach fired the crew
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: that we got you know that we basically got back together.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: You're welcome.
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: That's where Kurt Benkerk is located as well. Yes, he's
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: in Great He's in Green Beach as well. Brian Kelly,
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: former LSU head ball coach. He was like three houses
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: down like on the street that we wrong to go
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: to go to the beach. He's there like full time.
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: He's ripping around in a bronco. I was like walking,
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: I have my glasses on with my big vacation at
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: and he was like, hey, how you doing? And I
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: was like coach Kelly. He was like what's up?
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: And so I took everything else so he could identify
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: because I didn't want to seem like a weirdo talking
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: to Coach Kelly. I was like, coach yo, Willie c
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: bust with the boys, how do you do? And he's
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: like he's like, oh yeah, man, we knew. Yeah. Like
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: once I took everything off, like I had a big
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: hat on, I had sunglasses on, and he was just
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: saying like good as we were walking by. Because the
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: guy who was like uh, one of the people at
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: the at the spot like hoasting us, he was like, hey,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: coach Kelly lives around here. I was like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I know, uh I know Coach Kelly. And then when
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I saw him and he was basically saying good morning,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I was like, dude, I'm trying to how you been man,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: how you doing right?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: How do you know Coach Kelly? Oh he was in
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: the bus. Yeah he was on busting with the ball.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Come on, looked at LSU. But he's not the most
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: personable guy. So it's like, yeah, yeah, you know what
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: my brain went. He was the head coach of Notre
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Dame when we were coming up. So I don't know
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: if Cincinnati Notre Dame, they went to l s U
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: had a rough rough go this last year he's having
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: a rough Damn really him and Mayer, who's head coach
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: l S You now all right, it's the guy, that's all.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: He's the guy. Now sleep score bro, I'm telling you terrible,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: but caught up with him. It is a great time,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: nice dinner, drink, anything like that. Went to Georgia's, got
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: in line early. You're first in line. Oh really we
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: were number one? D What what was it you were
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: saying the spider Was it raw and juicy? Yeah? I
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: love raw juicy. That's the coffee spots, Great and Beach.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: We went there for breakfast. They have a phenomenal breakfast tacos.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: God but great weekend started dialing in, dude, thirty eight,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: started down. The food starting to catch up a little bit.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I'm starting to think because the real estate was going,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: people were going down there a lot. I checked it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I was like real expensive for the food to be okay,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: and this last time I went, I was like, okay, sorry,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: have you been.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Everyone to Georgia's yet? That's the one. Is that the
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: one across the street from because there's ron Juicy And
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: then you walk down a block and there's that like
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: horseshoe where I think, no, KU's in there, not citizens,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: citizens is what I'm citizen is in there? Where is
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: you go down a little bit either farther right before.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: But George's is the one where people are like standing
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: in line because you can't get reservations. You have to
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: go and be in line. Really yeah, see I want
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: to do I wouldn't do well with that. The salt
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: this what is it? The salt and spicy or salt
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: and pepper shrimp? Oh Jesus Christ. Yeah, and I'm talking
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: and I'm talking calamory. They're calamory fries, not the skinny,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: stringy calamory. We're talking calamory frieses. Yeah. Do you like
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: the octopus calamory? I'll eat it. I love it. That's
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: my favorite one. That's a fair one. I sketch you looking,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: but I'll eat it. Yeah, sketchy looking. The first couple
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: of times you dive in, you don't know how you're
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: supposed to feel. But that's my favorite. Now you feel
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: like you just eat an animal that should still be
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: out there, like out there doing this thing a little
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: bit like man, they kept his shape and everything. One
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: thing I know is an incredible weekend for you. But
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: last time I was in thirty A.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: We went down to Panama City, Panama beat whatever, and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: we swim with dolphins and I'm like.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Well, you gotta go do these dolphins. Do these guys
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: do the tours. They know exactly where they're at.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: It's like not if it's when you're gonna see them,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and you dive in there and the little I had
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: like a little one goal right past me with a baby.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Nustled up wild dolphs, wild dolphins. We're talking out there freelancing,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, freelancing dolphins. I'm like, you gotta go.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: So I hit Will what was like third Friday, something
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: like that Friday, and I'm like, hey, you can go
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: see those dolphins. And his text was the schedule.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: With the schedule, we just weren't like all the optics
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: like have it like it's you getting my dad there,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: getting white there, having the in laws, kind of first
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: time having the house and getting the family there because
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: we're trying to create like a annual family vacation because
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: this is our fourth year there in a row around
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: that time, but trying to get everybody corralled and just
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: you know, you're feeling out the vibe right first vibe
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: dolphins huh and ee never really says anything. You hit
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: like five more times in that day before like I
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: guess we're not going to dolphins. Yeah, Duke of Bond
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: terror with swimming with some dolphins. And that's what I'm saying.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: He wouldn't go. He will, he would? You have no
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Billy c wouldn't be getting on a boat out in
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: the water.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: You're in a cove and you're just like they're like
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: like there's a cool little like you're legit in the
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: cove and then there's a little opening and you just
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: go out in the opening and take a quick laughs,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: like you can see the beach.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: You're not just out in the middle of the You're
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: not getting what I'm saying. He ain't leaving the house.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Like even if I explained how easy would be, he ain't.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: He ain't getting out there.
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: Well, all right, you simulate the conversation of you trying
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: to get Billy c to go out with the dolphins, Like,
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: how would you even approach asking him?
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I would tell him I would just break down, Hey,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: we're thinking about going to swimming dolphins. We'll go out
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: on a boat. Kind of give him the whole breakdown,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: like Taylor said about going to swim dolphins, very easy,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: very seamless. You could say on the boat, I'll swim
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: out there with him, But I think we're gonna get everybody,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: take the family and go out there. Let's say it's
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: let's call it Saturday. He would nod his head, he
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: probably grunt and not say a whole lot, and then
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Saturday would come and then he would back out on Saturday.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: I think he means, sever we're gonna stay back around,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: hit a couple of shops, and then it just we'd
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: just be going back and forth. I would just know
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: he wouldn't want to do it. Like whitewater rafting. Back
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: in the day when we were in Colorado trying to
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: get him a whitewater raft he was pissed about having
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: to go whitewater rafting because he didn't want to get
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: injured whatsoever. And he's because he loves leg He loves
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: the lake press, and don't take the lake press away
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: from him, because he's like, there's a couple of things
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I love in this life, him and my mom. At
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: the time, we're arguing back and forth. He's like, I
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: love my family and I love weightlifting, and he's like,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I don't want to risk weightlifting getting taken away from me.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: We talk him into doing whitewater rafting. He gets a
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: stop and pulled over, like just a quarter of the
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: way through. He gets out on the side and a
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: bus has to come pick him up and he's gonna
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: wait down. At the end, I was impressed and happy
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: just to see him standing out in the water, letting
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: waves hit him in the shins, seeing him laid out
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: on a chair he was sunbathing. And then forty five
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: minutes or an hour goes by. Then he puts on sunscreen,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: so then he's burnt the rest of the time. This
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: isn't a guy that gets out in the sun. He's
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: got like the blotchy red. They didn't put on sunscreen
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: at the beginning, and it was a hot you know,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: the wind, the wind's blowing to where you just don't
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: feel how hot it really is. And then they're just
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: blistering sunburn. The next day, White's got his shirt on.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: On Saturday, my dad's got a shirt on being real
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: careful out in the sun man. Yeah, Bills that you
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: builds up those dealer and her junior legs. Yeah yeah,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: just the pasty white thing dancing the sun in years. Yeah,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: all the time. But I was pumped. He came and
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: he he did the beach every day, actually except for Saturday.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: That's why he's like, I think we're gonna stay back
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: from the beach. Go hit a walk, go see some shot,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: hit a couple of shops. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, Dad,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: do your thing, man, you put in the work. Shut
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: up Billy Man, Shut up Billy later this week. Yeah,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: and old Bill Compton later this week. That'll be nice.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: That'd be real nice. You know, it's been on my
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: mind and final it's pulled up on the screen. But
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Brennan Soresby back in college football. Is it a clap?
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: I believe so? Yeah. I think for the kid, it's
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: a clap for college football. I don't think it's a clap.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: What bro think about this? Trinidad Chambliss looking for a
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: seventh year, Yeah, Ncuba says no, he's not going to
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: get a seventh year. They find a judge that now
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: says yes, So now he's getting a seventh year. We
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: talk about system has broken everything else, like we need structure,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: we need we need some guardrail somewhere. Brennan Sorosby gambling
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: on his team. I like you, you know, I'm a
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Sowresby guy, Like I love Soresby. But if there's going
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: to be a precedent being said, it would be over
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: something like this. The fact that the NCAA says no
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: it first, and then they find a judge Lmemurder to Trinidad.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: You find a judge that says yes in Lubbock, Texas,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: probably somebody from Landman that says yes, and now you're reinstated.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: It's to the point where he's only getting a two
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: game suspension, Like.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: What is this?
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Like there are no rules in college. It's football. So
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: it's just another example to me of like just the
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: system at large just being broken, like a failing system.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: I hear everything, So I'm fired up that he gets
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: to play because I want Texas Tech to be a player.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I love coach from We love Texas Texas Tech. Love
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: the Red Raiders. So I'm happy on that side, but
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: just to college football lanes get that large, I'm my fuck,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: this is not because now what happens is like, say
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: you're somebody right right now, like gambling on your team
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: this year? Ye caught. It's like, well, there's evidence over here.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: He only got two games suspension, right, and there are
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: a couple of bangers, you guys suspended for Yeah, it
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: seems like all you have to do is find a
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: judge locally. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Hey, we'll handle business. Yeah, love everything you said. Nothing
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: you said was wrong. Here's my stance on the whole thing.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Brandon Soresby, first of his name, breaker of chains. That's
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: what we're looking at here. We have a system that
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: is broken. In order to fully collapse the system, you
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: have to completely break that system. The more these things happen,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: the the champlices, the Soresbies. When those things are rearing
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: their ugly naked head right now, now we truly have
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: the ability to go look at how broken this is.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Without the Soresbies, without the champlasses, we could have years
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: and years and years of college football being a weird
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: limbo between heaven and Hell and a purgatory. It is
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: now we're seeing this where we need to get Congress,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: the government, all these things involved to put a legit
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: umbrella under college football which is turned into like a
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: minor leagues of the NFL, where guys are making as much,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: if not more money than they would be on their
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: rookie contract. Let's start to put some guardrails on. There
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: is there going to be a cat put in place.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: How much money can a team actually put in? How
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: much can third parties actually come in to start giving
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: these people more money? When they want two million, they
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: can only give them one, so they give them another
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: million because of a car dealership down the corner. These
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: are the things that need to take place in order
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: to fully break what is the NCAA or what was
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the NCAA personally Where we grew up in with the
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: NCAA and their rules and regulations, how strict they were,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: kind of being like a big brother from nineteen eighty
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: four on us was you can't do anything. You can
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: have a bagel, but you can't have cream cheese. You
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: can be on the field, but your coaches can't be there,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: So the gas have to There's always going to be
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: something where there's gonna be a loophole. Now that these
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: big things are happening, we're able to break it all
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: down and start a new That's kind of where I'm
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: at to where this is not a positive because this
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: kid gambled on his team and then now he's going
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: over and he's still over to play. But the positive
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: is the long term of we're seeing how broken it is,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: now we can go fix it.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everybody's understanding how broken it's it's been.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Like to me, it's like, when is the urgency going
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: to be there to finally get something in place? I agree,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: because if not, this stuff's going to continue to happen.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I love the fact that he
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: gets to play. I love that he gets to play.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, Heisman futured. I mean that he lost.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: He would have lost a lot of money. I don't
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: know how much money he's making with Texas Tech. I'm
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: sure they're the numbers in the threes or fours or
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: whatever it is. But he's making a bunch off the
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: field as well. He would have to gone to the
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: supplemental draft. Teams aren't given of a first round supplemental
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: for him. It'll be a second at best. And so
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: for him to do this, do his thing, hey, right,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: is wrong? Hit the therapy or the rehab thing for
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: about fifteen twenty days, do the do the whole, the
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: whole deal. Put out a statement onward, go play ball, kid,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: have fun, do your thing. I want to do it responsibly.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Let's never do that again. Let's keep moving forward.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: That's why I'm yeah for the for the kid, I am.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: I am glad he's getting to play football. Yeah, I
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: just think big picture of my fog man, we it's
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: it ain't good. It ain't good. I say, we just
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: sit in and enjoy it for a little now. And
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: now that I'm thinking about it too, Heisman future. I
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: don't think he is on I think he could have
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: it all. I think that. But even if he has
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: an all world year, like, are the voters with the
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: voters actually vote for him. That's that's w.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: That's a heavy play by comp though right there, because
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: he's gonna get it. He's gonna get a punishment somewhere.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: It's not in the first two games. You're playing some schlops.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: No disrespect to the first two games text a tech,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: but you are right, this kid has an All World campaign.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Whoever is in that second and third tier, they're gonna
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: get the NOD before him. Someone's gonna get them. Yeah,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: someone's gonna get because the draft is too far away,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: you know, Jeff don't care about that.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you're talking the NFL draft, right right, Yeah,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm talking about my futures. I'm talking about
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: my futures. On old Fandel, I feel like he would
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: rather play.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: Let's just say he's like he's able to play, accept
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: the two games, but like he's but he's just exempt
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: from the like the postseason awards. Like I feel like,
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: as a player, I feel like you'd be cool with that,
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: Like all right, yeah.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the fact that you're getting to play football
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: this year is a massive win.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: But like, I'm just not I'm not eligible for Heisman, Maxwell,
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: Dave O'Brien like all of those, like quarterback awards and shit,
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: Like I'm not eligible for those, but I don't really care.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to play football, Like, hey, I fucked up.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to play football. They got what Abilene Christian
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Oregon State to start, Yep, they'll get those before they
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: go to Houston. Man I wish for getting that Texas
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Texas Tech game, I know, but then Sores, we's gotta play.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: You gotta let him play. Let him sit out for
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: one of the other ones, because you want to see
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: best on best right Shores became there for a reason.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: You want to see it happen. Oh, I'm excited for
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: the kid. The system is broken.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: And I think in ten years when we're watching a
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: really cool documentary on Netflix about how the world of
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: college football and how it was.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: In the twenties. Yeah, it's gonna be produced by us.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: It'll be produced by Busting with the Boys, produced by
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Busting with the Boys, two different two different voices will
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: and there will be in like this was off on Hey,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: it wasn't that bad if you really think about it
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: really back and forth. It was a lot of fun,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of chaos taking place, and that's kind of fun.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Travis John said, that's fun. So we gonna have fun
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: with that. Yeah, looking for a little camaraderie.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I know we were a week late on it, like
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: it came out the day we were recorded last week,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: but Miles Garrett going to the rams.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm kind of happy we didn't get there,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: like initially react to it because I've thought about it.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I think this trade is going to be what people
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: believe that Michael Parson trade was going to be. Like
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: the Rams have all the tools to be successful this year,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: they were probably top three in the league to win
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, and the addition of Miles Garrett. I
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: think this is that's if there was a question mark,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: that's your futures bet.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Right there with fans. Not only that, but I think
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Aaron Donald's coming.
• 40:25
  Speaker 9: I did.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I think so too, ta Kevin take. Aaron Donald will
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: play for the Los Angeles Rams this year. That's a
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: clean tag. That's a clean take. I didn't like.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't like Miles Garrett in this pitch. I didn't
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: like it the way he was showing off like that
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: was nice because he he puts them finite.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he did. He put some He told the rubber
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: that was nice. If your Aaron Donald, how do you
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: not come out of retirement and play? How old is
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: he thirty five? It's thirty five years old. I mean
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: he's out there saying whether it's texta McAfee or texta whoever,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: he's flirting with the idea he's got to figure out
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: if the fire can be lit under him. It's if
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: you're there. There's no doubt in my mind that the
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: fire is lit. You're just preparing. Yeah, you're just you're
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: just staying low. The thing that worries me, dude, is like,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: how many years has been on the league?
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Two?
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Three?
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: He's been out for a couple of years now. Really,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: all it takes is one dude, you know what it's
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: like when we go to games and you're watching these
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: guys warm up. To me, I'll just speak for myself.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: When I watch these kids in college or these dudes
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: in the NFL play football, I am like, how do
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: people even do that? And I've been out for three
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: seasons where I'm like, this seems like once you get comfortable,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: you know you've made your money, you've done your thing,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: you're a first bout Hall of Famer to be you've
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: done all of it. And buddy, that physicality that takes
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: place week in and week out to get up and
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: go get it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: I have no doubt the guy can go do it.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: But you need that. You need that callous You've got
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: to have that where you're like taking the hits. You're
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: going you're doing the training camp. He's not gonna do that.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: He's gonna show up week one, and I bet you
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: he's gonna have a hell of a season because that's
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: the kind of talent he is. But me and myself personally,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I cannot think of stepping in and playing a football
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: game right now.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but this Aaron Donald is he stepped away just
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: on his own. Yeah, he just didn't care to play,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Like knowing that you actually could go on a Super
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Bowl run two years off if you're getting a little bored.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: He's clearly stayed in shape, like he's got that itch.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: That itch is there, and he's got a phenomenal relationship
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: with coach McVay, Like you have every ideal situation going
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: on him just in his living situation to where it's like, hey,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: why not go out there and play? Yeah, because he
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: can do it. It's not like he has to be
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: this Hall of Fame guy stepping out there. He could
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: surprise everybody and still be that same guy. But if
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: it's the whole uh, the saying, if anybody can do it,
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Aaron Donald can do it. I legitimately feel like he
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: can step on the field and still be somewhere within
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: thirty percent of what he was, dude, for a year,
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: for a season, and you have the most ideal situation
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: you could possibly ever have. You're going out there and
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: just having fun playing next to Miles Garrett and Fisk
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: and uh Young. Yeah, they're stacked, and you got Stafford, Brokakua,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Devanta Adams, you got them all. You got it.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: You got everything you need. And let's say Aaron Donald's
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: not who he was a few years ago. A just
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: caught up with him a little bit. He's not in
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: football shape, whatever it is, He's still gonna garner a
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: lot of attention those first five games to where you're like,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: we can't just double Miles. We have to go back
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: to double a Aaron as well. It can't double that
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: many guys. And he's still strong as fuck, dude. He
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: puts in the goddamn.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Work, buddy.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: The one fifties he was taking for a ride. Yeah,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: an absolute ride.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: It was insane to watch.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: I think he's not gonna have to, like you said,
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: he's not gonna have to deal with those double teams
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: because of Miles Garrett. Right, Like he's gonna be maybe
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: like the first game or two a right, let's see
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: what he's like and then the apes out there. He's
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: not what he was, but he's still like he's not
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: gonna be like that top three d lineman, but he's
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: could easily be like still top ten and still makes life, I.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Think from our vantage point. But he's gonna wat He'll
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: still want to go in there and be like, I'm
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: the I'm the one. They're still going to have to
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: circle on the scouting report whether or not it's true.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Like this, dude, I mean, he's he's arguably the best
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: of all time.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Arguably the best of all time.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is. Uh, it's terrifying to watch. And you
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: know what everyone's talking about Miles Garrett and Aaron Donald.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: But verse like you, like, if there's ever a time
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: for an athlete to put a chip on their shoulder,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: they traded you away. You're an absolute stud. You're a
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Pro Bowl, All Pro caliber type of football player, and
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: they traded you away and a first round pick. That's
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: how much better they think. Miles Garrett is the new
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: So when you're playing the game in your head in
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: the offseason of like these guys think on X, Y
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: and Z, you have a perfect barometer to show you
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: exactly how the Rams felt about you. If you're in
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: that you know, delusional competitive mind space of the NFL,
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: and he's gonna I think he's gonna go off. Yeah,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: beat delusional. But if you get Miles Garrett, you kind
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: of have no doubt.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: I'm with you.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: People thought I was taking a shot at the city
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: of Cleveland last week when I'm like, the the one
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: I felt bad for was was Jared Verse, like having
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: to leave LA Like then again, the setup, we were
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: just out there interviewing coach May, like, we know how
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: this organization operates, playing for Coach McVay, the roster that
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: they have Stafford at quarterback, you're a legitimate Super Bowl contender. Yeah,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: and to kind of get the call that you're getting
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: traded to Cleveland. Yeah, he gets to go back toward
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: where he grew up, which I'm sure is nice. But
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: just the stuff that comes of winning, bro, the stuff
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: that comes with one The.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Way he talked and off like he jumped on all
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: the podcasts, like you could tell he loves all the
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: rivalries the Rams have. He loves playing against the Seahawks and.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: You're playing with your boy fist right then you guys
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: played together at Florida State, like you had such a
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: great he had a great situation. I know he's fine.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I know he's gonna get he's gonna get broke off,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: like he's one into the premiere ends like in the league.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: But I'm like, damn going going to play for the Browns,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: now Man.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, going from la to like they're just strictly talking
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: quality of life.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: You can't say that though. We don't want to sit
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: here and take shots at the city of Cleveland like
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: they were in my mentions upset thinking that I'm taking
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: a shot in the city of Cleveland. I'm saying the
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: organization going from the rams where they're at who you
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: have on the roster to the Browns. They thought I
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: was taking shots of Cleveland. Like there's Cleveland tough out there.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: It's Ohio tough for sure, but Cleveland is not La. Hey,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: I'm with you. I'm just saying you gotta be castus
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: with these Cleveland there tough motherfuckers out there.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: But also, if you're talking about like the totality of life,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: you're thinking about your bank account, you're thinking about cost
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: of living, all those things, like Fisky is gonna be
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: way better off in Cleveland VERSUSNA be way better off.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Like he's gonna buy he's gonna have a mansion, five
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars, he's gonna get all the food you want,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: cheap as hell.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Y single player game, you're getting massive margin. Yeah, yes, mats,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: single player game. Absolutely Now the wins. That's where it's
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: gonna hurt a little bit, buddy, because Cleveland. I don't
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: think they're in a great position right now to be
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: overly successful in the NFL this year. Yeah, I don't
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: think they're in a huge position to be overuss the Rams. Like,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: if you're reversed and you watch them with a Super Bowl,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: you are going to be fucking sick. If you love
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: football and you love playing on a great team, it's
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: tough for Verse to go to Cleveland. Yes, yes, but
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: single player game, big win, big win for big win.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: That's the single player game. Single player game, that's the win,
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: bigger win for Verse. Yes, but if you love football
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: and you love playing on a great team, and you
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: want to win games, and you want to win games
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: with a coach that you already know in love with
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: teammates you clearly know in love, yes, tough, Hello, shit, Yeah,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: but Matt Stafford. Nah time, who starts for Cleveland.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: I mean it has to be Deshaun. They're paying him
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: a billion dollars for nothing the last three years. Hopefully, Yeah,
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: will be started by week eight. Deshaun Watson's played like
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: sixteen games in the last four years combined, and he's
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: freaking like the fourth richest guy.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean single player, single players. Yeah, big bump,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: who knows man, who knows what's gonna happen. That new
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: coaching staff in there, Yeah, those things. Deshaun Watson playing quarterback.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: That will be interesting to see if he's gonna still
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: be able to play it like a starter level, because
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: me Aaron Donald being a d tackle, Like, as long
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: as he's still got some twitch, he's still strong as hell.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Like he's gonna figure out because he's just genetically he's
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: he's got it, all of it and the way just
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: put the hand in the dirt. Right, Knight fighting, be strong,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Knight fight, be strong. Joke, somebody I'll get to the quarterback. Yes,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: all the things. There's a fight taking place. He go
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: handle bisiness. I don't care if he did training camp.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Get out there and fucking tackle that quarterback, right, and
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, I'll go do that. Yeah, yeah, I
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: mean Deshaun he has sixteen games in four years, tough,
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: tough living out there, arguably longer than Aaron. There's debates
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: out there, there's debates taking place.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: But we don't want to come in to see the
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: city of Cleveland because I feel like they're somehow going
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: to get woven back.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: Into that master Cleveland. I don't want to mess with
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: the Youngstown. Luckily, DeShawn, it's like, you can't. Nobody's not
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: going to be like publicly defending Deshaun Watson.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: One player game is as far as we'll go. Yeah,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: as far as I know, we've said a lot of
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: things about Cleveland. Can I just say one thing? Fuck
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: the state of Ohio that post someding no water up
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• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Let's get back to this episode. That's nasty, nasty, that's nasty.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: What do you mean is that nastier? Nasty? That's nasty.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: Ohio State, No, Ohio, talk about Mommy, Toledo, Cleveland, Cincinnati, dude, Cincinnati, Youngstown, Youngstown.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to say young boys
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: a little hard in Youngstown. And if you're real mad
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: about this and you want to do something about it.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Remember it's just words, dude, I'm chilling, but for real
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: fun that picture? They know it too, dude. Hey, should
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: you some spices? You're talking bro transition? You'll ever see
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Butcher party ideas. Now for Miles Garret trade, oh a
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: j Now on the Patriots too, just a so undertund Patriot.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: No one's really talking about it because that's right after
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: the the Miles Garrett trade. Are the Patriots the ones
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: in the AFC this year? Who you gotta think?
• 51:52
  Speaker 9: So?
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: You don't think so? Buffalo too? Bengals? Yeah, yeah, the
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: thing about the Bengals, man and Ohio, what's that? Yeah, Ravens.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: But Ravens were supposed to be the best team since
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: the football was invented this past year. I like the
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Jaguars too. No, I'll tell you who I like in
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: the AFC and the making the playoffs. I like the
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Titans making the playoffs, making the playoffs a little bit.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: I think by the playoffs, I think Titans. Yeah, I
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: kind of like that. Yeah, you got the Titans winning
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: the division.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I could see them winning the division for sure, because
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: I think Jaguars don't. They're sneaky. But it's like hot
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: and cold.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Who knows.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Liam Coleen stug a head coach CJ. Stroud had a
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: weird year last year. That defense in Houston's absolutely incredible.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: We'll see if CJ is CJ who was two years ago,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: then yeah, we got problems.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: So right now, why do I look at the schedule,
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: don't June eighth, Who would you pick to win the
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: AFC South? I'll pick the Titans right now, at this moment,
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: at this moment.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Cardinal Tate, dude, Cardinal Tate came out of a terrible state.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: But I will say this, like chickens ball, he's got
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: the attitude too. We saw him thea we started doing
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: all that.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Like he has he has it. Man, can't put your
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: finger on it, can't touch it, can't taste it, but
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: he's got it. He's got something going on there and
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: it fires me. A big, big year for cam Ward
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: big year. Adams called the a dual threat quarterback. I
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: wouldn't go that far elusive quarterback, give him the a
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: lusive quarterback category. But yeah, I like I like the Titans. Dude.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: It really goes to the coaching staff for me, Like
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: they're gonna put them in good situations to win, They're
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: gonna understand the game, They're gonna get gritty wins. And
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: I could see Jaguars jaguaring. I could see the Colts,
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: like you see how hot they started. I don't know
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: what Danny did. I'm not I don't think I'm buying
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: the Colts.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: I think there's too many questions. There's too many question
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: marks on all four teams to where it's like, okay,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Homer engaged. I'll just go Titans, you know, not putting
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: a responsible.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Bag on it. But I sit here and all wave
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: the flag. Yeah, I gotta get the training camp. I
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: gotta see these boys, boys in uniform, rose, spicy tear talk.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Bachelor party ideas, bachelor party? Is it now deec pre production?
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: He had? Is it his bachelor party?
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, his bachelor party, and they're calling it the Last
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Great Beer Olympics. Him, twenty of his boys, they got
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: a keg. They're going off somewhere in Pittsburgh, which is
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: so deep of him to do.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Beautiful place.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: We love it there and they're having a beer Olympics
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: and his dad is going to be the ref. I
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: think that's as good as it gets.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Location, got a hot tub. Hot tub, gotta have that. Yeah, location,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: like you know, you know what the best location is.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: You've been there, We've been there together. What did y'all
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: do for your bachelor parties? I went to, Uh? Mine
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: was Lake Travis got some boat life him. Yeah, in Austin,
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: I do like I do like being on a boat.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Tabo San Lucas got some Marlin, got it all cooked up.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: Had a nice little spot for all the boys. That's
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: the Placebo Lucas is little squid row action guys hanging out,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: little pool overlooking that beauty, those beautiful rocks in that ocean.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Just a vibe, suns out every single day. Can't beat it.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: I feel like Lake Tahoe could be a good one.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I feel that I've never really been to Lake Same.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: It's all lore, it's all lore, it's all lore. Have
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: a suit. Yeah, I don't know about Havas. Can you
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: went to Charleston, right, yeah, folly beach.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: Give me, yeah, give me the small beach town with
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: some nice local restaurants and kicking it on the beach
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: all day, spike ball, can jam, throwing the football, getting
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: those balls, that's skipping the water, losing it probably within
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: two three hours. Yeah, that's the weekend. Yeah, what'd you do?
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: We did, uh, Sam Marcus the Guadaloupe in Texas, which
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: is a river and a lot of rock skipping in
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: a shallow part of the river where you could set
• 55:59
  Speaker 7: the chairs out and it's just like the water's going
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: over your feet.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: You got a cold one in your hand and you're
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: just skipping rocks.
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: Played some golf, had some barbecue, had a little beer
• 56:11
  Speaker 7: pong tournament, not like a full on beer Olympics.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: But it's all the boys need. Many men don't need much.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: You don't need much. I'll tell you what is a
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: great bachelor party game. Chandelier chandelier game. Now that's a game.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: So where are we going? Tier one? Tier one, beach
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Tier one, Just put beach beach vibes. Tier one Boys
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: at the Beach, Tier two. Personally, I'm thinking Lake Boys
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: of the Lake, Boys of the Lake, Boys of the Lake,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Tier three, Derek's Boys at the House with a Hot Time. Yeah, cabin, yeah,
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Tier three, cabin, Tier three, cabin, bottom tier, bachelor bachelorette
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: parties put together.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: That's my that's my clean take people do. That's my
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: clean take.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: I see a lot of people doing it. Bottom tier.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: You mean that's like that? Put that in.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I'll put that the lowest of the low right there.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: We have evidence of that not working in the NFL.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: I don't want to throw anything.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be nasty. We don't want to be nasty.
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: The dual like bachelorette and bachelor party, bride and groom,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: they're doing they're doing their bat they're doing it together.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I'm not not about that.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: That kind of defeats necessity too. Like a need you
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: you have to have on your bachelor party. Is you
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: need that one friend who you're just kind of nervous
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: about the entire week? Yeah, you could just be a liability.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: Okay if you, buddy, if you continue to get black
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: out the way you are, we're gonna have to ask
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: you to leave. And you don't want to ask you
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: that kind of you need that kind of guy in
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: your group. Yes, dude, hell yeah, Like, man, we're just
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: trying to have fun this week and while you trying
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: to fight everybody.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: It's such as such a pain in the ast the
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: entire time, but you need them, Yeah, gotta have them.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Everybody's thinking of that one person too. I'm trying to
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: figure out who my person was. Mike Dietrich damn first last,
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: all right, I'll go to court. It's so questionable. You're
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: staying up late at night and he's just talking about
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: all this ship he's got going on back in his
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: personal Like, I get right, you're there. We've got to
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: just yeah, I mean you're not getting married, but you
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: guys not like that. He's just you go, Yeah, you
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: go back in the house. And my brother, man, he's
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: been going through a lot, so you're on his side.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: We split the trip for him. Yeah, dude hasn't paid
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: ship on this trip. Yeah, he doesn't have a job.
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: He's the first person that you see in the hot
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: tubber of the pool. Like the second morning there, you
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: just wake up. Everybody's getting out of bed. They're already
• 58:40
  Speaker 7: in the pool.
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're just already drinking too, And like you're just
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: still recovering.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: What are y'all doing? Guys, dudes, beards? You want water please,
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: for the love of God, something with electrolytes in it.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Dying right now? All right? Good tear talk man talk
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: you thank you, row very nice. What else we got
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: in the dockt boys. We got tight End University coming up.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: We are hosting on the field. On the field will
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: be host. I think we'll have a microphone, will be
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: ripping around a little bit. Yeah, their field day, we
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: will be host. We will also be hosting their concert
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: Tighten You and friends. Big guess I'm hearing there's some
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: good friends that are coming. I think there's some great
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: friends that are coming. Yeah, a lot of great friends
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: will be there. There's some look I'm.
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: Ye yeah yeah, yeah, I'm curious to see what this
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: on field hosting will be.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Like, oh yeah, I am too. What does that mean?
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how we end? All right, guys, So here's the
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: drill we're about to do. Yeah, you're gonna go five yards. Yeah,
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: they're gonna run through letders George the ladder. Yeah, hey man,
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: we just we just show up to give a microphone
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: to tell us what to do and we go do
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: it to the best of our dogs. To get vibe
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: with the tight ends to it is hey, and we
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: got a nice little roster of tight ends that are
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: coming on the bus. Yeah, and for the fans that
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: show up, just know I will do my job every
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: time they got they got the circle going around and
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: greg or Travis or George is breaking down a drill.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: I'll be getting that microphone up to him so that
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: way you guys can hear from the stands, getting some
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: good journalism in for a tight end. You this is
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: a live show. Now, I have no clue, but I'm
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: ready to do whatever he wants to do. You're ready
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: to do whatever we need to do. Bring vibes, have fun.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: That's all you can ask for, dude. Get everybody in
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: on the conversations that take place, all the stuff tight
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: you man, It's gonna be great, Ted and you we
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: got what for the dads.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Every single week. We got Dad Combined coming up. We
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: got racing with the boys coming out on Thursdays. Just
• 1:00:30
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• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Guests gonna be showing up on for the dads. Billy Cut,
• 1:00:40
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• 1:00:42
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• 1:00:46
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• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah he's he's gonna look at shops. He's gonna do
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: that day, dude. How about the New York Knicks That
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: kind of passes me off there? Why all right before
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: we get into talking New York Knicks, Because we love
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• 1:01:02
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• 1:01:05
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• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: have been on an unbelievable run, or watching the next
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  Speaker 3: you know, like I'm not everybody knows, I'm not an
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: NBA guy, but to see the fandom of the Knicks
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: come alive just from Afar on social media, I'm like
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: fired up for him, I'm fired up for the fan base.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, New York Crimes has it been hitting an all
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: time low with the next winning?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: And oh wow, so it's actually saving cities. How can
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: you not just see how happy they all are and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: fired up? Kind of like on the Wimby train a
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: little bit. I'm still not on it. I've kind of
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: gotten on it a little bit. I like the way
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: the kid operates. I like the way he throws baseballs
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: as well. So I'm just kind of I'm in on Wimby.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I listen.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I just hope it's not a sweep because what they
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: played to at the next they played two in New York.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're going to They're in New York now, Oh
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: so they already Yeah the nixt dole too.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, they've also built.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: A ten foot perimeter wall around MSG as of this morning,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: and Trump is going to be at the game technically yesterday,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: but so definitely be on the lookout for some interesting
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: content post game, especially at the next win.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, they might tear that wall down. People are
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: saying Trump finally got to build his wall too. Oh
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: people having fun. Do you see like the ticket How
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: much tickets are? My god?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: Yes, like nosebleeds is like over three thousand dollars.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's out of hand.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: There was one guy he was like screaming.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: He was screaming on one of the cameras.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: He's like, everything I do my whole life, every single day,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: it's for the New York Knicks. In this exact moment,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: I was like, what are you doing every day?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: Dude? It is hey, hey basketball man, it's fun. Yeah,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: fun man. Y'all gotta get on. I know, I know,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: I gotta watch a game before it's all over. Playoff hockey.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: Playoff hockey's been pretty incredible. I was going crazy.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Stanley Cup finals are going nuts right now. Who's in
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: Vegas and Carolina?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: Oh? I did know?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: There was there was like three goals scored and thirty
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: five it's been a wild run.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: The Knights were up the other night, Nights were up
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: four to nothing and we were at the bar. By
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: the time I walked back to my apartment, it was
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: four to three and they scored the Canes three goals
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: in thirty nine seconds, fastest time.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: Three goals in the third period. Dude, it is what's it?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: What it's?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, playoff hockey. Fucking rips, dude, And it's just like, yeah,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: like Carolina, they scored what like in the first twenty
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: four seconds in the first game. It's been a hype.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: It's been awesome. Two overtimes, it's been a high scoring series,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: which is.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Which is suck with those goalies yea, you know they're
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: in absolute blenders right now. But from a fan standpoint,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: who doesn't you know, no skin in the game for
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: either of these teams, It's like, this is awesome to watch.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Fucking light the lamp, dude, Yeah, light the lamp. What
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: does that mean? That's like the you know how like
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: when they score a goal? Oh, hell yeah, I messed
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: with that.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 9: I like that.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, light the lamp, all right, Hey, I'm taking that.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: I'm running with that. Match that's nice.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: I think that's a pretty common thread.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: I just figured that out just now. This might take
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: that one. Man, Yeah, this day in June. Man, go ahead.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Should we get into what you guys? We should we
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: have we have some tear talks. Nice hashtag tear talk.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: This one comes from John O. Steele. Best warm up
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: songs hashtag tear talk. I'm Gonna throw in till I
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: collapse by Eminem. Yeah, it's a good one. That's a
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: good one. Warm up songs, warm up songs well, hanging Fruit,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Cinderella Man by Eminem, White America by Eminem. Ah, dude,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: good warm up songs. Scrilla Masterpiece by the Baby. Yeah,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: that's another one. That's another one that's fun. Dress Man.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Well, a little slow, a little slower pace. Something I
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: like a little data, remember, I like a little data.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Remember a little under oath, well as they lay dying blood,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: one's blood. Something that makes you just like it, just
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: hate that, like I'm gonna die today.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: First day out, First day out, t grizzly. Okay, I
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 8: didn't play sports, But can Michael Jackson fitness at all?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: Probably not.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 8: We were talking for the show Michael Jackson rips is
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 8: any any Michael Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: Songs, probably not I made of it And you know
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: a non sate and you're just like eyes he my fame.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: What was the song you listened to before every game?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Freely?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: And it said you made you cry? Oh Mixed Drinks
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: about Feelings in You by Eric Church. That was like
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: a That was like after the hot tub getting getting
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: uh a hot tub, cold tub. Go get in the shower,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: put it on, no headphones on, just let it play
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: in the shower and just have the running water running
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: over my head. Just a good cry, right bef It
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: was the last song was do before I put my
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: uniform on. M Yeah, have a good cry. I cryed
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: like three times before a game. Sometimes, man, get them
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: tears out, that's good. Yeah.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you be walking around a little bit just talking
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: because you're nervous, trying to chatter up the boys.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: I'm wast haveing to walk in there. You get yourself
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: a couple of tears out, a lot of good chemicals.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Gotta let it go. Sometimes you have a.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Uh this year talk comes from Trevor Bickford. Are you
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: all getting any credit you deserve for getting Florida? George
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: a line back together?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: I haven't got a text. I do feel like this
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: pod should be the first pod they do together. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: you guys can do that. Elaborate on that. You guys
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: can do that one.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: Do you mean?
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: I mean we were back to back with them that week, Yeah,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: and stuff was going down.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: The first domino to fall.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like, yeah, they were altaists hitting us up,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: being like yo, fired up that you guys did, these
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: had these conversations. There's still obviously very much friction there.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: And now seeing seeing them post photos like getting back together,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: I'm like small part. Boys played a small small part.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, some people are saying white boy Country's.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: Backre you go.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: I'm sure our guests this week would love that. It'll
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: be a fan of that, that genre of country music
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: being back.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: We should have them both on though. That'd be a
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: good one. That'd be a good one. Yeah, I mean
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: I'm down. Yeah, we should definitely think about that. We
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: should definitely have a brainstorm about that. What's what's this
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: tier talking? Oh shit, we got money from Drew Garrison
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: hashtag tear talk as an adult so college or pro
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: have either. The boys pissed themselves mid game, like they're
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: not coming off the field, so they just let it flow.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: I mean I can be on the field, I can
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: be off the field, I can be in the bedroom,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: I could be sitting right here on busting with the boys.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: I can piss myself at any moment. Yeah, I would, yes,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: they answered, that is absolutely Yeah. My first game ever dressed.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: It was week seventeen, got called up, last game of
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: the season. Recorded one tackle twenty thirteen, and I was nervous,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: but I had to piss, and I didn't know if
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: I should ask somebody like, hey, where do you go
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: to the bathroom? Because I just wanted to kind of
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: keep my head down, like, hey, I'm I'm finally I'm
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: wearing I think I was number fifty three. It was
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: my first jersey I put on. I'm just on the sideline,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: and so I was nervous to ask a coach or
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: anybody if I could go potty, or like, hey, where
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: does somebody go piss that? So I just pissed myself
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: on the sideline. Nice cold game, cold game, not a
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: lot of sweat, just a stream. Yeah, not a lot
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: of sweat got out there for a few punk reps,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: a few kickoff reps. Was at least yeah, it was.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: It was raining a little bit, but not not a
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: whole lot, not enough to Fletcher's last game. Ever. I
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: feel like, yeah, man just posted up thirty five talking
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: to his boy. Just hell, yeah that's the move, dude,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: because you know, you just have the fear of like
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: I don't want to do anything that could. I don't know.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: I'm just in my own head overthinking everything. Like you,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: I'm finally out here.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: The visual is just so funny. Just picture you standing
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: there on the sideline line.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, does anybody I have a little bit of a
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: focused gaze to get started? Yeah, really think about it
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: for somebody. I'm gonna go now.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and somebody starts talking to you mid pure trouble
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 6: on the sideline or on the field.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: On the sideline, I mean you can't really focus that, Like, no, it's.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: So fast your team place, Yeah, you can't be like
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: stop hold in.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: The dog pilot the junior on top of just feel
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: something getting warm.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go. Like on the sideline, feels like there's
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: just so much chaos going on. When it was my
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: first game, like everybody put teams, put team on deck,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: pull team on deck. You're just trying to get in
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: where you can. I'm like, I don't want to go
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: up to anybody a coach like do can I is
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: there anywhere we can go to the bathroom. I gotta
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: go inside the locker room. I can't really hold it
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: right now. So I just shut that down and I
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: so I just stood.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's ten that's blue. You could use a blue
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: tend to pee. Okay, you use a blue the hay
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: out of piss, real quick, trainer takes you in there,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: blue tent pass, come back out. But something about peeing
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: yourself during a football game is that's what you want
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: to do. We would do it all the time, especially
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: if you're playing in Jacksonville. Some guys talking to you
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: between the first second quarter, Just pee yourself and you
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: point down. He looks and he just sees the stream
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: coming in.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: Like that's what you're doing.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: That's how you're making up. Hey, how chaotic is it
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: when you're on punt team and it's like third and
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: four for the offense, like pot team, punt team, get ready,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: and then we get the first down, Like all right,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: never mind, chill.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: You're just like you get the first down, it's like
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: all right, let's go chill for a second, just go
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: drinking a cup of water or something like Hardway just
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: says this, we're about to go out. Oh, we're just
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: telling we're gonna hang out. That first game, you just
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: I didn't know what to do, like as far as
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: sideline etiquette, because you're just the complete bottom of the soba.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: So say it's third and four, they get a first down.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: I turn around and like I try maybe to sit
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: on the bitch. But the minute somebody's like walking toward
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: me or around me, I like, stand up, Hey, go ahead,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: Oh really you know what I mean, because you're like
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: staying around like the guys who are playing again. I'm
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: fucking it was like a Yo, I'm stoke to be here.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: It's so funny hearing Will compident. I'm about twenty thirteen
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: as opposed to see him in twenty eighteen. Twenty eighteen,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: you call it. He just be sitting there. Hey mind
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: if we grab this, I figure bad. I'm talking about
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: like just during the game. Like you when you're like
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: we're on the squad together, You're like, hey, I'm kind
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: of round the last been here, I was busting with
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: the boys. I don't know how much longer I'm gonna
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: have like that twenty twenty season when you got popped on. Yeah,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: you're sitting, you're hanging. Maybe hit the bike a little bit.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: I'm playing with house money. Yeah, you're playing exact what
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like, So the different the different thought processes
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: between Scared twenty twenty or twenty thirteen Will Compton versus
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: Hayes in the Barn twenty twenty Will Confident. It's a
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: totally different environment. Yeah you're chilling. Yeah, Yeah, I'm just
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: saying I'm with you. There's there's definitely a fear that
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: takes place coming off of the Peace Squad, and you're
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: just like, this could be the only game I ever
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: playing in my life. Yeah. Man, interesting to know you
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: at that point and here you talking about the old
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: point is what I'm all right. We're good to wrap boys.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: We feel good about it. Can I give a quick
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: shout out? Real quick? Go ahead.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: I was in Mexico this weekend for a wedding and
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: before I even got through customs in Mexico, get a
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 5: tap on the back some random guy. He goes, dude,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: love the pod, and I was like, oh love that.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 5: You know we're in Mexico still getting, you know, shouts
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: from the boys. Our resort was like an hour and
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: a half from the airport. We get there, this guy's
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: in the wedding, so I started talking to him. Shouts
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: to my boy Ben. But he was by nature a
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  Speaker 5: tier one. I mean he was like my first episode
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: was Jaalen Ramsey in twenty nineteen. He's talking about inside
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: the bus for the dads. He's talking about penny slips,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: all this stuff, and then drink started flowing and he
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: just kept coming to me and go, Yo, tell your
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: boy will I'd fuck him up in the a gap
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  Speaker 5: and he just.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: Kept telling me over and over.
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  Speaker 5: But shout out to the tier ones. Love seeing him,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: especially outside the country. Ben was the man, and he
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: just wanted me to tell you guys, Hi.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's awesome. He's gonna be fired up. Shout
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  Speaker 3: out Ben Man. He said it multiple times. At one
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  Speaker 3: point I was like, all right, I'm gonna tell him.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you know what I want you to watch? I'll
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: just text him right now. I was like, you want
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: to FaceTime? No, no, no, no, no right now now, dude,
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  Speaker 3: the FaceTime random face. That's so awesome, Eric church Man,
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  Speaker 3: Please joy this Eric Church interview.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies, Jim, we have an outstanding guest for you today,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: one of an individual that has just taken the country
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: music world by storm. Lives in extremely private life. When
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: we started this podcast, one of the individuals that I
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: would love to go this podcast was Eric Church, and
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: it was always came to my mind that you've seen
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: how he kind of does you do your music, You
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: do your stuff and then you go back to your life,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: and you keep what's private special to you. And I
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: thought there's no way, not a chance in hell, he
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: would ever sit on this bus with a couple of
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: dumb idiots. Yet here we are today, at the end
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: of May, sitting here with the one of the only
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Eric church given around.
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  Speaker 3: Applause. Yeah, dude, honored, Yeah, straight up, it's mister Chief.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't get out much, so that's one
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: purpose that's fair. You know, you keep some mistique to
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: you in your world.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: It's like kind of guys are out there on the
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: social media and what was doing like TikTok dances not
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 10: It's not just never did the social media thing. I
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 10: was a little bit before the generation when all that
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 10: happened for me, and I just never It just didn't
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 10: seem like something I wanted to do, so I've never
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 10: done it.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: If you were, go ahead, does the Chief? Can you
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: push the mic just a little bit closer? Does the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: mister Chief? How would you like us? How would you
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: like us to the chief? Is I guess senor like Chief.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: We'll just we'll we'll we'll work it all out and
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: we'll just tell us when we've gone so far. At
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: some point when you look at like the the state
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: of where music is in general, how people there's there's
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: so many platforms for people to get their name out there,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: and in some ways it's really good, but there's a
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: it's like a necessary evil that takes place. If you
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: were to put yourself in a younger person shoes who's
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: trying to achieve the same goals that you've achieved, do
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: you think your personality would have still gone down the
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: same route you did or would you have been more
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: into the social media game?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 10: I mean a lot of that that there's good and
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 10: bad there. The good is there's more access now, so
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 10: there's a gatekeeper part of the music industry that's your label,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 10: that the people that see you and they put you
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 10: in that mechanism that you can skip now, you can
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 10: go on TikTok, you can do those things now. The
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 10: problem with that is, I believe some of those gatekeepers
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 10: are necessary for quality, for you know, what you're trying
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 10: to do. So as a young well I think about
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 10: myself as a young artist, I would have probably struggled
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 10: a little bit at that because I don't know that
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 10: I ever would have just I'm a guy that I
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 10: believe in albums. I grew up on albums, and I
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 10: believe that when you get a book from somebody, you
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 10: don't just read one chapter of that book and then
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 10: put the book away.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: You read the whole book.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 10: And I treat songs that way. So when I conceptualize
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 10: an album, it's like a book. You're going to get
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 10: this song, this song. They should all be related together.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 10: They should all be about a period of life. They
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 10: should be about something you can put on a shelf
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 10: and that represents that time. A lot of the world
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 10: we live in now is you write a song on Monday,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 10: you put it out Tuesday, write a song Wednesday, you put.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: It out Thursday. A little disposable.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 10: And I think that I would have I would have
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 10: struggled with that personally if I was coming up now, how.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: Was your relationship in friction with the label throughout their career? Horrible?
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 10: But I mean it became it got good because they
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 10: when I started, I was centers like me. It was
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 10: our first album and this is a time that females
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 10: dominated the genre, and we were very non that and
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 10: with our music, and it didn't go great, and they
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 10: got to a point where they were they were about
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 10: to drop me. We put out the Carolina album, and
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 10: they were trying to steer, and I was at that
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 10: time in a desperation way for a couple of songs,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 10: letting them steer a little bit.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: Because I was about to lose my record deal.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 10: And I had a song on the Carolina album called
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 10: Smoke a Little Smoke that I was certain was going
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 10: to work.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: I had seen it.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 10: We were playing bars and clubs seven nights a week,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 10: and I remember a meeting I had to fly from
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 10: where I was to meet with my record label president
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 10: and we sat down and we were talking.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: About what to do, and I said, well, I know
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: what we should do. We should put out Smoke a
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: Little Smoke.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 10: And that went like you think it would go at
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 10: that time, because at that time there was no marijuana, broke, drinking,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 10: none of that.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: And we discussed it.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 10: Aggressively for a while, and he had these little reader
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 10: glasses things on and I said, here's here's I said,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 10: here's that it's going to go.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: Mike. I said, You're either.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 10: Going to do what I want to do or I'm
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 10: never going to record music again for Capitol Records. I said,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 10: I'm done. We just ended right now, and he thought
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 10: about it for a minute, and he took his glasses
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 10: and that whenever he threw, he threw him at me,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 10: and they bounced on the table, and if he threw
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 10: him at me or at the table, but they bounced
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 10: twice and they landed in my lap, and he goes,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 10: it's your funeral, and I said, okay.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: And then it worked.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 10: And then once it worked, I never I never had
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 10: the what the good news is? To his credit, they
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 10: let me do from then on, I make the record,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 10: I make, I turned the record in. I don't have
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 10: of contact other than this is what I'm doing because
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 10: they trusted me. After that, after it worked, and then
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 10: it worked bigger.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: After When you say it worked, does that mean that
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: the single went out and the single absolutely crushed or
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: albums or just all of it, all of it.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 10: And then it led into the Chief album, which was
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 10: our follow up album, which is the biggest album, and
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 10: then it became album of the Year and all this stuff.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 10: And I didn't even have communication with the label. I mean,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 10: I just said, here's what I'm doing and here's how
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 10: I'm doing it, and see you on the other side. Really,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 10: but that's you know it. There It was tough to
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 10: get to that point, but once you get there, it's
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 10: a good place to be.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: What kind of nerves do you have as smoke? A
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: little smoke was about to drop and you're like, I
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: just got that.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 10: I mean I kind of had nothing to lose. I mean,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 10: at that point in time they were going to I
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 10: was gonna be dropped anyway, So I thought, if I'm
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 10: going out, I at least want to go out with
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 10: something that I watched people tear the walls down every
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 10: night when I played that, I saw it and if
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 10: it didn't work, it didn't work.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: For me, I was okay. I could sleep at night
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: at that point time.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: It's interesting too, the transition that takes place between those
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: two albums. You look at one album, got the longer
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: hair ticking place, no glasses. All of a sudden, she
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: comes out, We've got a ball cap on, dark sunglasses.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: You went to a little bit of a villain mode.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 10: Huh right, What's what's crazy about that is the last
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 10: thing the label wanted from a marketing standpoint. They didn't
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 10: had no glasses, know, you know, they want you to,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 10: you know, have hair and see your eyes and all
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 10: this stuff. But I did it because we were in
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 10: bars and clubs and nobody really cared. And I have
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 10: a eye thing where my eyes don't lubricate really well,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 10: and my contacts kept popping out on stage like I
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 10: would be in these six three so I was up
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 10: on these these parking lights would bake my kind be
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 10: blind for the show. So one night one of my
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 10: band members said, hey, you ever thought about wearing sunglasses?
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: Nobody cared.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 10: Every twelve people is the show, and I was like, ah, cool,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 10: So I put them on and it worked, and then
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 10: it became kind of a thing. What people were seeing
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 10: in those bars and clubs every night playing smoke a
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 10: little smoke. Their live interaction is something that we weren't
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 10: showing to the world with our album and what I
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 10: was to the national media. And once we made that change,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 10: it was so strange how it just all it all.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 10: It wasn't ever conceptualized, We never we never spent time
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 10: going this is an idea. We just did it because
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 10: that's what we're doing every night. And then that worked,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 10: and then it became a thing.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: Is that a similar way the nickname Chief Camp comes up.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: It just kind of started that way.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 10: It actually it was actually my band. So my grandfather
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 10: was the chief police for thirty five years in Grand Falls,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 10: North Carolina. And when I first put the hat and
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 10: sunglasses on, they were the mirrored ray bands. Is the
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 10: first one I wore. And my band was making fun
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 10: of me. I thought it looked like a State Trooper.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 10: I looked like super Troopers. Great movie, great movie, fantastic movie.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 10: Snosberry's tastes like Snipsbery's.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: But they so they they as soon as I walked out,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: they were like Chief like that they were making fun
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: of me, you know. And then.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 10: Absolutely and then we we when it came time for
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 10: the next album, and it had been based around playing
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 10: bars and clubs, and that look and smoke, a little
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 10: smoke led into Chief that we called it Chief, and
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 10: then the rest of it became the thing Cally never
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 10: thought about though.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also like the top five most badass nickname
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: you can have. Yeah, you know, you could have way
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: worse nicks. Yeah, Chief, you're making fun of me calling
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: me Chief?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: Do you want to tell me your nickname when when
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: you're in the locker.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: Room, which one? Oh, scrimp, scrimp? These are all given you.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: They're just giving nickmas you scrimp in the locker room
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: in Washington, and you can you know, I can imagine, Yeah,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: you can imagine. That's a nickname. That's a nickname you
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: don't want, you don't want. Yeah, that's not an album
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: album covered nickname. I mean you could work, but yeah,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: oh going to uh, mister misunderstood when you're you did
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: zero promo for that, And the idea was to send
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: fans the album. Was like eighty thousand fans or something.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: You sent the album and then you win the Album
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: of the Year at the CMAS. What are the what
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: are the conversations that take place there to where it's like, hey,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do zero promo.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 10: Well, the interesting thing is we didn't tell the label
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 10: we had done it, so we in order to do that,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 10: we had to totally put the label in the dark.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 10: So we went and ended up buying a record pressing
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 10: plan in Germany to be able to keep that out
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 10: of the label's world. So we did all of this ourselves,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 10: never told the label. The label found out about twenty
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 10: four hours before the first fan got the album, and
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 10: they had no clue there was even a record. We
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 10: had done it all in secret, and we actually did
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 10: the deals. At that time, it was physical products, so
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 10: we did the deals with Walmart and all these places
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 10: because you was CDs, and we actually went in and
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 10: did the deal outside of the label individually with Walmart
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 10: in these places that we were and we had to
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 10: keep it secret, and there's good and bad there. The
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 10: good is we were able to keep it secret. The
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 10: bad news is we didn't tell anybody what it was.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 10: So on the record release day, and the whole theory
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 10: of this was we're going to send it to our
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 10: fan and then we're going to play on the CMA Awards.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 10: We're going to play mister Misunderstood. As soon as I
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 10: finish the end of that song, the record goes to
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 10: the world. You can go to Walmart and get it whatever, right,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 10: that's the idea. But as we had hit it, we
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 10: also hit it from Walmart and they had put on
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 10: their Christmas CD Christmas release because it was in November,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 10: no Name. So as it hits and then everybody starts
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 10: going on what they didn't even know what to put
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 10: out because we didn't involve the label and all this stuff.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 10: So we've done ourselves and so it was good and bad.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 10: The great thing is there for me is the fans.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 10: We do all these things with media, you do press,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 10: you do critics, You give them access first, and then
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 10: they tell you what they think about it, and then
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 10: the fans buy it. And I thought that was backwards,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 10: because the fans are the ones invested, and I thought,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 10: let's give it to the fans first and then let
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 10: the industry and the media and critics and everybody chase
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 10: the fans. So that was the whole idea. So we
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 10: just shipped it. I mean, people got it, you know,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 10: UPS showed up it with the record before the world
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 10: knew about it.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: How pissed was the label? They were not happy?
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 10: Sounds like well, also we did some things that you know,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 10: as I remember the conversation I had with the same
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 10: guy that threw the glasses at me. He said, so
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 10: let me get He said, do you have a record
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 10: coming out tomorrow? And I said, yeah, like that. He says,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 10: what's it called? I said, mister Sun said, it's great
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 10: spent You're gonna love it. He said all right, He said,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 10: how did you tell me? Tell me about it? And
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 10: I said, well, I'm gonna play it tonight on the Cmas.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 10: This is the day of the CMA Awards said I'm
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 10: gonna play it tonight on the Cmas and as soon
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 10: as the thing end is going to go to the world.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 10: But the fans have had it for forty eight hours.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 10: He said, I've heard and he said, how did you?
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 10: He said, is it gonna where's it going to be?
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 10: I said, it's gonna be everywhere, Walmart, Best Buy, go anywhere.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 10: He said, great, how'd you do that? I said, well,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 10: we just went directly to him. He said, what'd you
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 10: call it? I said, well, we kept it secret and
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 10: he went okay. He said what did you call it?
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 10: And I said Christmas Album. He said, so tonight when
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 10: they're calling us and all these people, what'll we tell
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 10: them to go look for in their warehouse to put out?
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 10: And I said, good point. I see your point. I said,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 10: assuming there's only one Christmas album, put that out, you know.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 10: So we had to chase it a little bit, but
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 10: it had to had to kind of catch up. The
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 10: interesting part of the story there is I have this
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 10: grand thing of how we're going to do it, and
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 10: we play mist Misunderstood and it's great and I feel
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 10: so great about it. And the CMA is anybody who's
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 10: ever been to award show. There's two stages running and
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 10: you play your song and then there's a host that
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 10: comes out and they announced the next person on the
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 10: next stage. So I finished playing I Feel Good, and
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 10: as I'm walking back to go backstage, Chris Stapleton and
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 10: Justin Timberlake start Tennessee Whiskey. That was the immediate performance
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 10: after and they got halfway through, and I knew we
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 10: were fucked because I thought everything we just did with
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 10: a secret album they just eliminated because it's one of
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 10: those performances, right yeah, and it made Chris Stepleton, so
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 10: we had to chase that little bit too.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: How does it work?
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, first off, the amount of highs you must
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: have had walking off that stage only to be met
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: by yea, a massive low in two minutes and thirty
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: seconds has got to be absolutely insane. When you're buying
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: German factories to make an album, to secretly keep away
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: from your label, to send out to Walmart the best
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: buy to all these places contractually, how does this work
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: between you and the label, Because essentially that's their job,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: right get distribution, Yeah, make sure they advertise for it,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: all all the things that need to take place, and
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: it's like, well, you guys didn't do any that. I
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: actually did that and now we have a Christmas album.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 10: You could argue it didn't work in a way short term,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 10: like we sacrificed a lot there from the like the
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 10: first six weeks of what the record could have done.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 10: But the music was good and the idea was good.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 10: And what's what I and I guess my gut was
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 10: right there where the fans were able at that point
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 10: in time to steer where you went. Once they had
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 10: it in their hands, they felt empowered, and that empowering
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 10: they went and told five people through. So we ended
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 10: up catching up. Short term, it was rough, but long
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 10: term it was the right decision, you know, And I
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 10: say that to a lot of young artists now. You
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 10: ended up making a lot of decisions thinking about the
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 10: next six months or nine months in this industry because
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 10: everything moves so quick and it's just not You will
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 10: be happier with your career and you'll be happier with
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 10: yourself if you if you always think about twenty years
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 10: down the line, that includes what kind of songs you sing.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 10: There's a lot of young artists that will put out
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 10: a song and they don't think about what's it going
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 10: to look like if I get to play this song
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 10: at forty versus twenty five, And they just haven't thought
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 10: that far ahead yet. And that's the industry, that's the condition.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 10: So for us, at least in that time, we made
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 10: a long term decision and it worked out.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: How long did it take you to have that thought
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: process being a guy that comes to Nashville, you want
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: to do the thing, the honky talk, like all of it.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: Everyone walks into the music the way you know you did.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: How did you get to the thought process of like,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: I need to look decades ahead, not just tomorrow.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: Well, a lot of it was what I was consuming.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: What I was a fan of.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 10: The people i'm a fan of are people that made albums.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 10: They were long term artists, they were people that built careers.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 10: And then the other is how you go about I mean,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 10: I was in bars and clubs because it wasn't going
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 10: great for us. I wasn't able to pop on and
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 10: just start playing arenas and start being on these tours.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 10: We were a little bit of the outcast, and a
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 10: lot of that is the building blocks of that. The
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 10: longer it takes to go up is how long. Your
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 10: path to the top will probably mirror your path to
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 10: the bottom. And you can do this, or you can
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 10: do this, or you can work it. You know, long career.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 10: And I think just being in bars and clubs showed
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 10: me that pretty early that that's kind of what it was.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 10: It was blue collar, but that's how the best bands are.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 10: I mean, that's Rolling Stones all.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: That they did that.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 10: You know, they gutted it out in bars and clubs.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 10: And I have a problem with a lot of the
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 10: TV shows now, Voice and stuff like that, and I've
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 10: been vocal about it because you put them in this
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 10: situation where they're in front of twenty million people and
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 10: they win or whatever, then they get a record deal,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 10: but they've never played for twenty five people when they
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 10: have a guitar feedback and they don't know how to
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 10: do that, and they've just they skipped steps. It would
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 10: be like in football, it's like you're skipping the process
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 10: to get to that place where you're a professional and
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 10: you've done it. You're skipping all those things getting up
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 10: to it, and those steps that you skip when you
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 10: get the when the spotlight show you and it will
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 10: you have to know that you've earned it. You have
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 10: to know that you're ready for it. And I've seen
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 10: so many artists that weren't and they melt when that
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 10: happens because they didn't earn it. They don't have that
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 10: thing in here because I've done all those things that
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 10: put me in this situation and.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: Too, Like if you win those shows, like aren't you
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: pretty much like tied up contractually with a you know,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: it takes place. Yeah, it's where say you are really successful,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: you're kind of just out leveraged because you you know,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: you won this show and you the grand prize is
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: getting to sign with the the label.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: With the label which really guarantees you nothing. Right Like
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: if you get signed by a label, is that it
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean you've made it right now, that actual work.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: Has to be put in.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 10: Well, I mean you think the I thought that too.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 10: You think that, you know, I mean, you're trying to
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 10: get a record deal or you're trying to get whatever deal,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 10: and you think when you get that, you're like, I've
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 10: made it. But honestly, the hardest parts next, the next
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 10: part is the hard part.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: At what point in your career, Like what was the
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: most difficult part Because you've been doing it for decades
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: that you're like, maybe it's like a rider's block that's
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: taking place, or a transition of having a family, Like
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: what was like the most difficult thing for you in
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: this process of music?
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 10: I mean the early part was hard on, like just
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 10: getting any traction. But I look back on it now,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 10: you know, there there were fourteen of.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: Us on a twelve monk bus. You can do the math,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: and a big spoon, little spoons, yeah, and it was
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: a lot of smells. Yeah.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 10: The bus was nicknamed the Urinator. A carpet, nice carpet.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 10: And so I look back at that. At that time,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 10: all you're ever saying to yourself is if I could.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: Just get.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 10: A hit or hit record and just get to the
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 10: next thing, I'll be happy. And then that happens, and
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 10: you get your own bus and they get their bus
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 10: and you go. You know what's interesting to me is
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 10: the time I miss the most is fourteen of us
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 10: on that bus.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: I miss that.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 10: And at the time I would have told you this
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 10: is the worst thing ever. Right, seven days a week, Amarillo,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 10: Texas on a Monday night. Not a great crowd, not
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 10: a great crowd, not a great place. We outnumbered the
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 10: people in the place on stage, so you look at
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 10: all those things. But now those are the things that
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 10: I look back on and I hold deer and like man,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 10: that was so much fun and so pure and no
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 10: money was involved and know anything. So that part was
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 10: hard just to do, but I revere it that the
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 10: next part that I'm going to when you have a
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 10: lot of success and you almost become your own competition,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 10: where when you put out a new album and you've
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 10: made ten albums, the first thing people say they compare
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 10: you to is Chief, mister Misunderstood whatever, desperate Man, all
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 10: these records, So you become your own competition, and that's interesting.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 10: That's been that's hard because you're competing with yourself versus
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 10: just putting out music and competing with what's happened at
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 10: the time. So that's been the last five six years.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 10: That's been more difficult for you. Is competing with yourself?
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: Not difficult for me.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 10: I think it's difficult when you go like this last
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 10: album was with strings and horns and flute, and for
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 10: me creatively, that's where I wanted to go. But then
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 10: you have fans that go, why don't you make Chief again? Yeah,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 10: and my things always if you make the right record,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 10: you never have to make it again because you can
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 10: go listen to that anytime you want to. It was
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 10: made for that moment in time. That's where I stay
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 10: on the album thing. You've got a chief, have it
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 10: anytime you want it. I'm not going to make another one, right,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 10: So it's just it's a matter of I don't know.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 10: I guess having that that creative compass and being able
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 10: to follow that compass is something that I think a
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 10: lot of young artists. I see it all the time.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 10: They struggle with that because they want to be well,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 10: I gotta have another I gotta have another top one
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 10: hundred song. Then I gotta have another one, then I
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 10: gotta have another one.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: And you can't sustain that.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 10: If you don't have a creative compass and you know
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 10: who you are and what you're going to do, there's
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 10: zero chance that you're ever going to be able to
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 10: sustain that, and you're gonna end up crashing and burning.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: And most do because I'm assuming you have people too,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: whether it's in your circle or council, whatever. That we'll
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: see numbers of the newest album that drops and like, oh,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: I didn't have the same pop as Chief, and he's like,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: maybe we need to get back to ring so.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 10: That way we can all Yeah, but that's that's that
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 10: if you if you're in it for the career and
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 10: you're you're The way I look at is it's an
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 10: entire body of work. It's not just this album or
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 10: this album, it's all of it. And if you stay
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 10: with that, I think at least for young artists, they'll
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 10: be happier.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeahead of looking at like how much money you're making,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: how can you get to that point the goal that
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: eventually the goal posters moves. It's like, let's look at
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: the because when when you're talking to me and you're like, oh,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: fans are like one, do you make another Chief, I'm
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: that's me. I'm that guy.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: Like for me, it's like I listen, I'm a big
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: like early two thousands pop punk guy like blanklin a
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: two for those types of bands, and they had that
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: you know, ninety nine to five run where it's like
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: my brain kind of still stays there when hit the
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: old Spotify list. Yeah, and then like twenty sixteen, these
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: bands had a lot of resurgence, like Blank within a
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: two came out good Charlotte came out. All these bands
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: kind of came out, but it was a new sound.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: And I'm the I'm the mid twenty year old guy
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: now going hey, hey, hey, let's get back to let's
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: get back to first date. All right, let's get back
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: to twenty three year old stuff. And it's like, yeah,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: it's the same here forty now, we can't do that.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: It's like Springsteen like just changed my Like I can
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: just I can still imagine myself in the car with
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: the boys driving to Lake of the Ozarks, Like Springsteen
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: comes on, like, oh guys, this song right here. And
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: so anytime you go to, like say an Eric Church album,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: you're trying to skip and find the one that's gonna
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: remind you of, like that's the banger that you remember, Yeah,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: back in the day. What's the what's the story of
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: you playing longer than your set? I want to say
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: you would open for Rascal Flats and you would play
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: like twenty minutes longer. And then I want to say
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: that the lore goes like you were sat down and say, hey,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: do you need to go sooner so that we can
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: play longer? Because now you're you're chopping into a production
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: time or Rascal Flats coming on to where then you
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: got did you get fired from that?
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: And also did you talked to the lead singer of
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: Rascal Flats Haircut at any point? Because that was tough.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: Sometimes, all that stuff, that whole couple of foozies out there,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 10: That was probably never going to really work with with
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 10: what we were. So we had the Centers Light Me album,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 10: which was very not what it just wasn't a great match.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 10: And then we got out there and I had me
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 10: keep in mind when I say I played longer, I
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 10: had like fifteen minutes for twenty minutes and really fifteen,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 10: and the crowd was good, and I would go a
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 10: little longer, and then when I would go so it
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 10: was a lot to unpack here, but when I would
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 10: do a little bit longer, there would end up being
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 10: more rules the next night. And then when I would
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 10: I was the personality that when there were more of
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 10: those things that weren't there initially, I would break those,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 10: and then there were more and it became where it
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 10: was just an unsustainable kind of thing. And there was
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 10: some pettiness that when we were all younger, but there
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 10: was some pettiness that was involved. So when it came
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 10: to a head, we had played Thompson Bowling Arena in
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 10: Knoxville and the next night was Madison Square Garden, and
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 10: they some things were done at Thomson Bowling that were
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 10: I thought unfair to a band that had been out
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 10: there six days a week prior. And we come in
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 10: there not sleeping, and we had to go through some
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 10: things and not you know, and I'll leave some of
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 10: the details of this out, but we go to Madison
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 10: Square Garden.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: I understand this is like what years ago? Yeah, a
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: long time ago? Is a statute limitations? Yeah, yeah, whatever
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: you want.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 5: So we go.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 10: We go to Massive Square Garden, which is a Union
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 10: controlled event, and there were some things that went on
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 10: there that we were set up in a way that
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 10: penalized us. So going into that night, I decided that
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 10: we were going to follow none of the rules and
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 10: we were going to play our entire set, knowing that
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 10: it's a union based arena. So the longer I go,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 10: the shorter they have to go. Because I know there's
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 10: an end time. I've done the math. So as we
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 10: went on that night, we played for like forty five
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 10: minutes and lights were turning off and that that's where
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 10: it all came to the head. And then I was
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 10: going to I was supposed to play with them next week,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 10: and I got a call from a young new artist
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 10: that was doing really well at the time, and she
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 10: was really sweet and she had replaced me and names
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 10: Taylor Swift, and she she she had replaced me on
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 10: the flatter and she was great. She's ope, there's you
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 10: were good. There's no bad blood, which came later, nothing
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 10: to do with that song, okay, but she was great,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 10: and she said, I want to make sure. I said,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 10: now we're great. I didn't even know I had been
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 10: fired at that time. She told me Taylor Taylor told me.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 10: I was like, that's good to know. I was gonna
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 10: be there next week, but I won't go. I won't
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 10: be there now, so yeah, that kind of and she
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 10: did okay too, So I said, I told she said,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 10: it's gonna be great for you.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be I knew. I saw the crowds. You're
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: gonna kill It's gonna be great some people. She's the one,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: she's the one telling you you're no longer. Yeah, she
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: probably heard and was like, I want to make sure.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: Me and mistress r Chief is arguing, so I'm gonna
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: call him and just make sure.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 10: But the best part about that is we didn't really
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 10: have so once you get replaced on a tour like that,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 10: it's not like you have tour like places lined up.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: And that was called the Me and My Gang Tour.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 10: So I decided I didn't because I'm antagonistic to go
• 1:42:02
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  Speaker 3: to this episode, at what point in your life did
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  Speaker 3: you realize you don't do well with authority? Well, then,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: I mean about me? Yeah, yeah, I just never have.
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  Speaker 10: I mean to me, it was coming from It was
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 10: a musical thing to me, like we're all trying to
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  Speaker 10: you're trying to you know, you get fifteen minutes to.
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  Speaker 3: Show who you are. And the great part of that that,
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  Speaker 3: I'll say.
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  Speaker 10: That where that led me to is as we're going
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 10: around to me and myself to her, which is literally
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 10: that I get a call from Bob Seeger, who was
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 10: a guy I grew up idolizing, and I'll never forget
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 10: to call. Bob's got this like thick Michigan you know,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 10: kind of accent, which is unique. And I get this
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 10: call and I don't really know, like if they called
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 10: and I didn't answer it, and then they call right
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 10: back and I answer it and on the other line
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 10: he goes.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: Is this Eric? And I said, yeah, like that he's
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: Bob Seeger and I was like, holy shit, you know,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: and he goes, you really get fired from flints.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 10: And I said, you know, yeah, I won't keep the
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 10: accent going, but I say yeah, and which he kind
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 10: of laughed, and he goes, well, we're going out on
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 10: a world tour and we love your album and we
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 10: would love for we don't have open the acts, but
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 10: we'd love for you to come open our world tour.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 10: And we can only I'm sorry, but we can only
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 10: give you forty five minutes. My album's thirty eight minutes
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 10: the Whole Center's album. So I'm sitting there thinking, shit,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 10: like I got a problem, you know, And you're coming
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 10: from where I came from, where it was tough, the
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 10: tough environment, to somebody who's like.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: Take what you want. You know, this is what you
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: this is what I should do for you.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 10: Right, we like what you're doing, Go play. It was
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 10: just totally different world, and it it actually was great
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 10: for the career because all of a sudden, I'm in
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 10: front of these older classic rock fans. They don't really
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 10: listen to country, they don't know what's going on, and
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 10: you just get exposed to twenty thousand people a night
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 10: that I never would have been exposed to. So it
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 10: ended up being from a god thing.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 9: It was.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 3: It was the right path for me. Yeah, sometimes getting
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 3: petty is the best move manh Yeah, it's an incredible story.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: As your ascension takes place and now you have a
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: lot of people opening for you and all that, how
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: do you treat everyone that that way? Again them all
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: the time in the world. If it's a union based yeah,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: Square Garden just pay it, I l anyway. I mean
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: we just we pay it.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 10: But I mean it's just that happens. You know, you're
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 10: going to run into that. We play long shows. So
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 10: I did go through a period in my career where
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 10: I didn't take any oak in the NATS because I
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 10: would play like three hours. We took intermissions like we
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 10: did the old jam band kind of thing where we
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 10: go out, you're with us all night, You're with us
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 10: from eight to eleven, thirty twelve, we're just going to
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 10: stay in play. So I did that for a period,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 10: and then as I've gotten older, it's got it's hard
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 10: to do, you know, three nights in a row vocally,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 10: So I started bringing in people that I like and
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 10: people that whatever, they don't have to have success it's
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 10: just if I like what they're doing, they'll come out
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 10: and play shows with us. A lot of times they'll
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 10: jump up on stage.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: Was you ever thought about doing Me and Myself tour
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: again just one day down the road and then yeah
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: we'll circle that's.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 4: Again.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: Life is a.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: Couple of Swift songs? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I think, yeah,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: me and myself and Petty. I just get crazy with
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: what was uh what was the thought processing going to
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: headline like stage Coach because I'm thinking, you know stage Coach, Yeah,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 3: you think Eric Church. Just yeah.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 10: The thought on that was I had done Stage Coach
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 10: like six or seven times, and the way I approached
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 10: shows from a fan standpoint is I'm gonna try if
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna do something like that like Red Rocks, we
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 10: did that kind thing too, where I'm gonna try to
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 10: give you an experience that you're never gonna have. There's
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 10: two ways to handle Stage Coach. I could have went
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 10: out there, played my normal show, got paid back home done,
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 10: and I was trying to make it unique in something
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 10: that the fan would go, hey, I was there that
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 10: night when he did something different. And what I will
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 10: say with that is the time that went into that
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 10: first of all, to walk out in front of eighty
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 10: thousand TikTokers basically yeah and play a acoustic, somewhat gospel
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 10: set with a choir only with one guitar for ninety
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 10: minutes as a headliner. It's probably aggressive, but it was
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 10: a thing for me. It was like, this is going
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 10: to be something they'll never see again. This is one
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 10: of one and if they get it, they get it,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 10: and they don't. Lot didn't.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it was, It was kind of it
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: was kind of just that's okay though. I mean again,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: you react.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 10: Everybody reacts in the moment and you look at social media,
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 10: which I don't, but I saw it and you kind
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 10: of look at it and go okay, wow. But long
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 10: term that becomes I've run into people all the time.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 10: It'll go like, man, I was there that night for that,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 10: and it becomes a thing maybe for ten of them, but.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 9: You need you do.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: You talk about like every album is like a book
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: where it all they should stay chapter after chapter. You don't,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: you read the whole entire thing and you ingest that.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: So your career is an incredible has an incredible library.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: Is there one specific book that you will hold closest
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 3: than any other.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 10: As far as albums, probably the mist Misunderstood album just
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 10: it just matched up with my life at that time.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 10: I had a there's a song there called three year Old,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 10: I had a three year old old buddy, there's a
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 10: song called hold my Own and I just I just
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 10: getting into family mode. So that's the one that probably
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 10: has a snapshot was the.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: Most relatable to where I was at that time of
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: my life, and so for me to this day, is
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 3: still probably my favorite album. How did You What was
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 3: the concept of lightning? Like where how did that come
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 3: to you?
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 10: Came from the Green Miles the actually the movie there's
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 10: actually there's actually there's actually a thing. I was watching
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 10: the movie and there's actually the line that I use
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 10: enlightening is the roll on one, roll on two kind
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 10: of death kind of scene. And I just thought that
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 10: was a unique way to build a song. That's actually
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 10: the song what's everybody talks about now with what will
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 10: be hits and all the money maker stuff, and the
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 10: song that really got me in my record deal was
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 10: that song. And I played interesting thing. But as you're
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 10: a songwriter in town and you're trying to get you know,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 10: a deal, and you go to all these different places.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 10: And I was making the rounds and they'd be like, hey,
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 10: we like it, Yeah, come back. And I finally got
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 10: to what I thought was my break, and it was
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 10: with BMG Music, which is an arm of RCA, and
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 10: they're bringing this big guy down from New York and
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 10: they said, Hey, this is this is the day, Wednesday,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 10: ten o'clock.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 4: Be here.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: You're going to play your songs. You're gonna get it done.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 10: And at that time, when I walked into that meeting,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 10: I had how about you pledge leuse to the hag
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 10: two pink lines Centers like Me, which is all on
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 10: the first album. And I sat down and I, honestly
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 10: from a cocky standpoint, was thinking, I bet I don't
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 10: get through one of these songs, Like I bet I
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 10: never have to play two. I think I'm going to
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 10: start them with this. We'll have a deal done. I
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 10: don't even have to work hard here.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 10: And I come in and there's this little dude. The
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 10: whole place is like it's like like a fight. They're
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 10: like patting you on the back and you feel like
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 10: Johnny Depp and blow like Black Betties playing I'm carrying
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 10: my guitar case, leather jacket, all the way the dude,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 10: and they're all, you know, like yeah, go get them,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 10: and they're all high fiving, you know. And then you
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 10: go in this office and there's this little bald dude
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 10: behind this huge office and he's at a desk and
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 10: he's on his computer and it's like chickenws typing and
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 10: I go, I said, I just said, I just go
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 10: in and said yeah.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: So I go in.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 10: I stand there, I got my guitar case, and for
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 10: a minute he didn't talk, so I was like, hey.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 10: He goes, he holds his hand. He goes, Hi, I'm Ron,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 10: and I said, Hi Ron, I'm Eric. He goes, Oh
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 10: my god, everybody here. That's you're all I've heard about.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 10: The reason I'm here. I came from New York City
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 10: to hear you play. He said, please please relax, sit
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 10: down and play me a song. So I sit down
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 10: and do my case and I'm sitting there going through
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 10: my head like I'm gonna slay this guy. And I
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 10: sit down, I play how about you?
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: First?
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 10: I get through, like to get to the course, and
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 10: he throws his hand up like like that, and I'm thinking,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 10: this is it? It idiot, take me a song. He
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 10: throws his hand up and he goes, yeah, I don't
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 10: like that, and I went, oh, okay, I don't.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: Like that at all. He said that's weird? Can it be?
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 10: And he's like, you know what the big deal? He said,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 10: first song, he said, everybody says you're great. Play me
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 10: something else. I was like, okay, So I went to
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 10: I went to clients. I get to like the chorus,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 10: same thing. Hand goes up and he goes, is that
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 10: is that about pregnancy? And I went yeah like that.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 10: He goes, you're bringing in a song about pregnancy and
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 10: I said yeah, you know it happens, yeah, and he
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 10: goes wow. He is, oh, yeah, this is not going
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 10: the way I thought it was going to go. He said, yes,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 10: I didn't like your first one at all. And he goes,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 10: and then you're playing me a song about pregnancy?
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: Is you know what?
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 10: Just play me another one? So I play him plays
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 10: Loose to the Hag and I get to like the chorus.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: The same thing.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 10: Hand goes up and he goes, is that about Merle Haggard?
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 10: And I said yeah, And he goes, Jesus Christ, how
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 10: old are you? And I said twenty five. He was like,
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 10: you're singing me a song about Merle Haggard in two
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 10: thousand and three. And I said, yeah, like that and
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 10: he goes, wow. He goes, this is just this is
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 10: not what I expected, you know. And if we finally
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 10: got he said, play me one more and I played
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 10: them Centers like Me, title track of the album, and
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 10: I got the same thing. Got to the chorus and
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 10: he stopped me, and then he said, is that a waltz?
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 10: I said yeah, one, two, three, Yeah, it's a waltz.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 10: He goes, let me get this straight. You've played me
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 10: a song I didn't like. I said, you were clear.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 10: He goes, you played me a song about pregnancy, you
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 10: played me a song about Merle Haggard, and you've played
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 10: me a fucking waltz. And I went yeah, and he goes,
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 10: I don't know what where you're from or what you
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 10: did there before you came here, but I would go
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 10: back and do that. I went, so I packed up
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 10: my case. Thanks Ron. What's funny is when I left
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 10: the office, like people knew what had happened, and like
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 10: all the people that have been like slapping your like
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 10: it's tumbleweeds are blowing through that place in the corner.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm like, all, good luck to you. Holy shit.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 10: So anyway, here's the thing with this great about music
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 10: and about that. So I was very depressed. I was
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 10: going home. I went to the tin roof. Yeah, the
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 10: cocky guy got humbled, Oh be here, it's run now. Yeah,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 10: I ain't stelling insurance.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: But so at ten.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 10: So this meeting, I went there at ten. So let's
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 10: say this lasted. I never got to finish a song.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 10: So let's say it's ten twenty in the morning, and
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 10: I called my brother, who a little mouth of the time.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: He was excited.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 10: He thought we were about to get a deal. And
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 10: I let him know it didn't go great, and he
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 10: said where are you now? I said, I'm like on
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 10: seventeenth Avenue. He said, where are you going? I was like,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 10: I think I'm going to go to the ten roof.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 10: And I didn't realize ten or if didn't open at
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 10: ten twenty. But you can't go there that early. But
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 10: so I went there and we got incredibly drunk. We
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 10: stayed there from like maybe eleven when they let us
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 10: in the door, till about one am, and he drove me.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: I don't. I guess.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 10: I guess he drove me home. But I got back
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 10: to the condo. We had a condo we were sharing,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 10: and on the answer machine that night was a message
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 10: from a guy at Sony. And the guy at Sony said, hey,
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 10: we've heard your stuff. We want you to be at
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 10: ten am tomorrow morning. Be it Sony and I'm my
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 10: brother's waken me up in the morning.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 3: You got to go, you know. I'm half hungover. And
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 3: I go in and it's funny. It's the same deal.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 10: The guy's behind a desk and I have a guitar
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 10: and he goes, he's will play me something, And immediately
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 10: I was like, okay, I'm not playing. How about you
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 10: two pink lines Pleasures to the hag or centers like me?
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: And I played.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 10: I said, you know what, I'm gonna play what I
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 10: want to play, And I played Lightning, which is a
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 10: song about a guy getting killed death penalty, not exactly
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 10: what you would lead with. I got halfway through and
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 10: the guy he put his same thing. He didn't make
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 10: a noise, he put his hand up like that, and
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 10: I thought a pitch and he goes, I'll sign you
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 10: right now. So I never even got. That's all it took.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 10: It just took that perspective and that song. So I
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 10: went from one day, I'm leaving town. I got to
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 10: go back and do what I was going to do,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 10: And the next day I have a deal with Sonny Man.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: Isn't that amazing? Two different perspectives. Yeah, and just finally
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: within twenty four hours, and you didn't.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 10: Get that the key is that's it. You finally played. Now,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 10: maybe I shouldn't play.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: With people you thought people wanted. You play what you wanted,
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: and that's what authentic wins. That's what did it. Yeah,
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 3: but knowing you don't, knowing you don't get the answer
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 3: you want to hear, you go and just get blitzed
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: with your brother. Yeah. The next morning you gotta not pay,
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: wake up, you gotta go. And the result is the same.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: You're back at ten roof anyway, but it's happy drunk
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 3: this year. You're doing the whole thing all over and
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: over again at ten twenty. Yeah, same time. What time
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: does Chiefs open on Broadway? At night?
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: No, no, this is way before Chiefs. This is what
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: I'm saying now, you guys should have an open I've
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 3: never checked it out at ten twenty. But yeah, I'll
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 3: do that. Yeah. See see if that thing's cooking. I
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 3: know you gotta watch out, you to look ahead above
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 3: you when you're around chiefs, though you do, yeah, you do. Finally,
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 3: Now was that process? That's good to say you're not
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: just an artists anymore. You give speeches now? Oh God,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: like how much has your phone? People just been blown
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 3: up forever? Anybody? Everybody wanted you to come speak.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 9: Now.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: That was a unique thing. That was a It's interesting
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: when you do stuff like that. You never know how
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 3: it's going to go. And I was.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 10: I had some anxiety just about doing a commencement speech
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 10: and struggled with it. I found out about it like
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 10: eight or nine months before it happened, and they asked
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 10: me to do it. The Chancellor asked me to do it,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 10: and I said yes, without really thinking about what that
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 10: would entail. And I worked on it a long time.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 10: I could never figure out what it was, and it
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 10: actually was. It was in a fit of frustration that
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 10: I just I threw a speech across.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 3: The room that I was working on.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 10: It was generic, and I grabbed a guitar just to
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 10: get away from it for a little bit, and then
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 10: that's where the idea started to percolate. What am I doing, Like,
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 10: I should I do this all the time? I need
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 10: to figure out a way to use this. And that's
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 10: kind of where it started, you know, just with the concept,
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 10: and then it did things that I didn't. You know,
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 10: you never think about that. I was only think about
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 10: the room and doing a good job. I have such
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 10: respect and love for Carolina. I was just trying to
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 10: do the right job there. And then it became became
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 10: a thing impactful.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: I mean genuinely one of the best speeches I've ever heard.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, I mean it was sometimes.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 10: You're putting in a situation. I believe that was putting
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 10: a situation to deliver that message, and I was the
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 10: mechanism to do that. And that's what I believe, And
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 10: that's just that's how that's how it felt for me.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 10: It wasn't something that was any preconceived thing. It just
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 10: it just happened the way it was supposed to happen.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I've obviously seen a handful clips, but before you
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 3: even came on today, I watched the entire commencement speech,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 3: and part of your speech you're talking about how I
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 3: be present at the moment. Don't look for people's other
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 3: people's validation, Just focus on your own validation as you
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: go through the process, and just essentially be present. Don't
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 3: worry about what the.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: Rest of the world thinks, because you're gonna see a
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: bunch of things that seem like a thousand times better.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: And as you started to play your song at the end,
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: two teachers behind you pulled their phones out immediately and
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: started filming. I didn't see that, but then it shows
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: the crowd of these kids that are twenty one years old,
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: and I didn't see one phone in the crowd. People
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 2: put their arms round each other, they start swaying back
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: and forth, and I'm like, the message actually was sent. Oh,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: actually it actually went through. So I mean I had
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: nothing on top of that, and that's awesome. Yeah, I
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: just want to sit there and be like, that's cool.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 2: You have a quote here. It's too many people in
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 2: the world stand at the edge of their potential, waiting
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: for a permission slip to arrive that will never come.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: And it's just I love to figure out where you
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 2: came up with that quote exactly, because it's it's right,
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: like so many people want to achieve greatness, but always
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: look at all the obstacles and what the failures that
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 2: could possibly happen, and never just choose to jump.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 10: Well, some of that is too, is in the world
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 10: we live in now. Sometimes it's a bad thing first perceived.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 10: Is a bad thing to say that you want things
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 10: and what I wanted them to It's I want them
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 10: to want things. It's okay to want things right, It's
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 10: okay to want to be successful and want to do
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 10: these things. A lot of that was just and I've lived.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 10: I've said this many times. When I talk about the
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 10: pillars and the six strings, I know about them so
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 10: well because many many times in my life I have
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 10: been guilty of all of those being out of Toude.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 10: And I'm old enough now that I know the difference,
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 10: even briefly, when they're all into and what those things,
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 10: how those things relate to each other. So I think
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 10: a lot of that message was I didn't talk about
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 10: and I didn't want to talk about me. It was
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 10: about them, right, and that was kind of what I
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 10: tried to convey. So here's what I've done badly, and
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 10: here's what you can do better, And honestly, it was
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 10: just one of those messages that I still believe it
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 10: was meant to be in that moment.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 3: To deliver it. How long did it take you to
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 3: once you did come out of the frustration, start figuring
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 3: it out, how.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 10: Long faster wants the guitar get involved? Because then I
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 10: could go Then it's like, okay, I got six strings
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 10: to work with here. And what's unique about the strings
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 10: is there's different there's thinner to thickest to thin, and
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 10: you start thinking about what's the thickest thing in my life,
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 10: what's the thing that you're most bound to, the one
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 10: that resonates the most, and then you work your way
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 10: to what the thinnest string is, which is the most bendable,
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 10: the most maneuverable, and how the world affects those strings?
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 10: And I was able to build it that way where
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 10: you know, you put faith and you go family, then
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 10: you go spouse, and you build it with what the
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 10: thickness is, with how it should resonate with you. And
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 10: I think once that revealed itself, and my wife helped
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 10: a ton on this, but once that revealed itself, it
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 10: was easier. It kind of went fast. At that point
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 10: in time, it felt right. It felt like it's something
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 10: that wasn't I felt, I guess imposter syndrome in a
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 10: way when you try and do a commencement speech and
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 10: I don't give speeches, and all of a sudden, I'm
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 10: supposed to walk up there as a musician and tell.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 3: These kids what their life should be.
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 10: And there's a lot Like I put myself in the situation,
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 10: I would have been going, what are we doing?
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 10: And I think it took the guitar to give me
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 10: a little bit of credibility to go, here's why this
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 10: should work. And I think I think that's why it worked.
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 10: I don't know why it worked, but I think that's
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 10: why it worked.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you became a speaker that day. How
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 3: many other companies people have reached out about you doing
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 3: more speeches. There's been a lot. There's been a lot
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 3: of book publisher people wrote the book because you like,
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 3: there's no ums, there's no yeah, I mean, yeah, you
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 3: murdered it. And going up there, it's like you're watching
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 3: your body language and it seems like you've spoke a
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 3: thousand well.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 10: I mean the thing about that that's interest when you
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 10: put a guitar on me there's a it's a comfort level, right,
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 10: I mean I would related to an athlete like you know,
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 10: you you could basketball, football, You put that in their hand,
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 10: you hide behind the mask almost.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're very.
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 10: Comfortable, you know, with that in your hand. So for me,
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 10: once I got the guitar on, I play big crowds,
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 10: I play big staff, done the Super Bowl, and you
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 10: do these things and that. Once I had that on,
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 10: I was I was comfortable. So I didn't have a
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 10: hard time standing up there and trying to give a
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 10: speech which felt weird to me. I was struggling with that.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 10: I struggle with that for months months. I just couldn't
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 10: figure out why it didn't fit.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because then you have the pauses, you have the
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 3: chance to play a little bit, to get out of
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 3: your own head about it. You just get that speech transcribed,
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 3: like you just you start signing away at airports, you
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. You said, there's a bunch of
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 3: book publishers that want to come out. Yeah, we're gonna
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 3: do a book I think about your life. It's gonna
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 3: be called the Six Strings of your Life.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 10: Oh it'll be it'll be the it'll be that, it'll
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 10: be what it'll be the speech. It'll be a little
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 10: more maybe because there's some color. Yeah, a couple more pages, yeah,
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 10: a little more in depth about each tring. Yeah, right,
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 10: that's what it kind of would be. I mean it's
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 10: really eight chapters. You have a beginning, you have six chapters,
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 10: and then you have an outro. I mean it's not
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 10: it doesn't need to be this, it needs to like
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 10: I kind of like it.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 3: If it's kind of this small passible yeah, kind of
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 3: what it.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: Was something that I got in a three piece suit.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: We keep in his vest pocket. But you should read
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: this if you want to get anything. And the first
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: person you said it to is Ron from New York.
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna look really hard to find him.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 3: We'll find we got a guy. I got sure. Actually
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 3: he'll find his burners and take care of that, no problem. Huh.
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 3: Then so he can go and uh, you just say
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 3: he's going to go on a book tour. Get hit
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 3: up the fourteen people that did the twelve Bunks, be like,
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 3: hey guys, you guys want to hit the road against Yeah,
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 3: sign some books, play some music you yeah in the
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 3: uh and that's yeah. You talk about people want things.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 3: It's good to want things. You've achieved so much like
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 3: in your life now, like, what do you want?
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 3: What is something that you try to achieve? At this point?
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 2: I guess I kind of am and it wasn't even intentional,
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: but we do. We do a bud light question and
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: it's essentially anyone would do anything for a nice cold
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 2: bud light. What is something that mister sir chief would
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: do anything for? I can't say family, and.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 3: We don't have to. You don't have to hit and
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 3: the podcast it over and if you need time to think,
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 3: we'll give you a guitar so you can. Sorry, So yeah,
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 3: give me the direct question more time? So what would
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 3: I what would you do anything for?
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 9: They?
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: Basically the my thought of this question right now is like,
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 2: you've achieved so much. You told these kids you want
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 2: to want something that's that's okay to have that because
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 2: everyone's like, don't take too much in life. You've achieved
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: so much, You've gotten all the things I'm assuming you
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: wanted when you were their age.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 3: What do you want now?
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 2: Like, what is something that gives you fulfillment other than
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 2: family in your career?
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 3: In a passion? Something like that? Is it?
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 2: Fishing with Eli manning and catching big bass and who
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: caught that bass? It sounds really good, Fisher, that was you.
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 3: Okay he yield it, I know, well Ben, Yeah, he
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 3: also held it like it had like I did say
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 3: to him. I said, hey, it's not got a disease,
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 3: like if you look at the picture, like, look at
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 3: the picture. He's got it like out here. And I
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 3: was like, he's just get a little sholder mobility taking.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 10: Place and get anything on these khaki shorts. But no,
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 10: for me, I had to think about that a minute.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 10: But immediately what comes to mind is and this is
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 10: going to be probably not what you want, because the
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 10: one thing would be like, you know, a hunt with
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 10: somebody or something like that. It's not really that, because
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 10: I've done all those things. It would be it would
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 10: be being to a place and I would be there.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 10: I would say from the rest of my career, rest
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 10: of my life that the decisions that I made I
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 10: could look back at and be comfortable with them, proud
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 10: of Musically, some of the stuff we talked about, Stage
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 10: Coach being one of them, I'm proud of that that
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 10: maybe didn't look good to the social media. I'm proud
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 10: of that because I did it for a certain reason. Internally,
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 10: I think getting to a place where you can look
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 10: back and go, no, I'm happy that I did all
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 10: of those things, even if it didn't work out, Like,
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 10: it's easy to look back at those things and go, well,
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 10: that was a huge success. I'm glad I did it.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 10: It's harder when it's not. But you did it for
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 10: a reason. There was something. There's a reason you did that,
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 10: And I think as long as I can look back
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 10: and go I was true to those things in those moments,
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 10: that would be I would be pretty content with that.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 10: That's probably more of what's going to go in the
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 10: book than what you're looking for, right, Yeah, Yeah, But
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 10: fishing with the Man was close. That's that's essentially a
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 10: close second. That is how this this podcast got So
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 10: Ben came with came, he was with me that afternoon.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 3: He sent me a photo of you'all on the boat
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 3: later that day and I was like, that fish is awesome,
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 3: really cool. Flex you have Eric Church on the boat
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 3: with you too. I would love to have him in
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 3: the pod. And essentially that's how the Domino Sos and
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 3: you got pulled into this. Yeah. So I guess the
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 3: next thing is we gotta go fishing. Yeah, then go fishing.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 3: It's not far from here, little fishing. Do you have
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 3: any things that you look back on that are you
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 3: wish you would have done differently.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 10: I mean, here's the way I treat that. You're always
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 10: going to have that in the moment. There's a lot
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 10: of things in the moment, but I think over time,
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 10: I don't. I'm not a regret guy. I think that
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 10: and and I kind of go to I've had so
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 10: many things in my life that I reacted the way
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 10: that I thought was right in the moment, and then
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 10: maybe it didn't look that way to the world, but
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 10: it ends up working out. So I'm not a guy
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 10: that I tell this to my kids too. We're all
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 10: going to have regrets about a lot of things, but
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 10: a lot of times those regrets along the further you
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 10: get away from them, it just worked out the way
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 10: they're supposed to work out. So I don't overly have regrets.
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 3: Do you ever have any beefs? Yeah, with the US,
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 3: a bunch of them went through, And yeah, it is
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 3: when when you're when you're young in your career and
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 3: you're coming up things are starting to get going for you.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 3: Was there another artist that you looked at from a
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 3: competition standpoint, there's been a bunch.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, Well, early on, the thing that aggravated me
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 10: is We're out there grinding and working hard, and I
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 10: believe in our music and I think it's good. And
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 10: then I'm seeing all these guys who will have a
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 10: hit that you've not. No, you don't even know them now,
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 10: but at that time, they were all flying past me
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 10: and they were the new thing. They'd win the award,
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 10: they'd get nominate, all that stuff. So I took that personal.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 10: I wore a chip on my shoulder for a while
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 10: with that stuff. And then there's been the competition. To you,
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 10: there's been a bunch. I mean, you know, good and
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 10: good and guys that are great you know, So yeah,
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 10: that that's part of the end. That's just like sports. Though,
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 10: like I always say this, a lion knows a lion,
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 10: and I know the ones that I've encountered that are
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 10: good and are real, and I know the ones that aren't.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 10: And it won't be long before the other people realize
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 10: the same thing. But there are some that have been lions,
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 10: you know, that are alliance and I know it, and
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 10: those are the ones that are fun to you know,
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 10: get in there and mix it up.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 3: With yeah, because there's nothing like bad behind it. You
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 3: don't have ill intentioned against No, No, it's just like, oh,
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 3: I respect this massage myself. You actually look at them
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 3: and go, yeah, yeah, man, that's a dude. Yeah, and
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 3: it's a good thing. It's a good thing.
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 10: When I go to make a record, I go to
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 10: write a song, I know that dude's out there stalking around. Yeah,
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 10: that's good. It's a it's a competition. It's a good thing.
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: How hard is it for you as you get older
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 2: to like, I don't know if it's like kind of
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: slow down a little bit you start to have kids,
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: a family, Like new priorities take place in your life
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: to where it's like you used to be so focused
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 2: on being the number one line or competing against these
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 2: other lions. Like was that a difficult transition for.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 3: You at all?
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, going to fatherhood and all those things.
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 10: Yes, it's also a difficult transition when and every artist
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 10: will go through this. You're going to go through that
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 10: time when you have the number one album in the world,
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 10: you have the number one song in the world, you
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 10: have the number one tour in the world, and then
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 10: ten or fifteen years later, you're gonna have a great album,
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 10: You're gonna have a great song, You're going to have
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 10: a great too, but it may not be the number
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 10: one of all those things. And the transition of that
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 10: and keeping your shit together can be tough for people, right,
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 10: So that's something that is I respect anybody that does
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 10: something for a long time successfully.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get back to this episode, shall we?
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  Speaker 10: The thing when you look at the industry, there are
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 10: people that I respect anyone that is and regardless of
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 10: what I think about their music. I respect anyone that
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 10: has done this thirty or four years. I don't care
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 10: right like. That is respect because I know how hard
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 10: it is. So I think a lot of that is
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 10: just being comfortable with being able to do what you
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 10: never dreamed you'll be able to do for a long
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 10: time and let the ebbs and flows happen. Some people
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 10: struggle with that. They'll be on top and then it
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 10: starts to fade on them and it will guaranteed right
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 10: they struggle and they try to chase it. I'm gonna
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 10: dye my hair, I'm going to do this, I'm going
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 10: to get a new band, I'm gonna change my sound.
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 10: They start chase just to try to get back to
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 10: that perch and you'll never get back there that way.
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 10: I think you have to have that thing, that compass
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 10: that allows you to know that this is gonna happen.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 10: Happened to Springsteen, happened to Stones, that happened to everybody, Seeger,
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 10: happens to everybody. You have to be comfortable with that.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 10: That took a minute. That took a minute because I
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 10: that's I went through a little of that.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to.
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 10: It takes a minute. That's for anybody. That's if you're
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 10: the number one athlete, you're the top tight end, you're
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 10: the top whatever. You're going to go through the young
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 10: kids that come up and now you're not right and
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 10: you've got to balance that. That's with any career as that.
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 3: As that learning point, that ego check. All those things
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 3: are happening real time and you're struggling with it. What
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 3: are things that you're latching onto. Is it a mentor
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 3: is it a book? Is it what's coming through your
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 3: head that ends up getting you to the point of.
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 10: Being I think a lot of mine is what we
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 10: were talking about. I just don't I don't do like
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 10: social media. I don't really I'm pretty in family focused
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 10: with my life and I fish a lot. I don't
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 10: just don't go out and do those things. And you know,
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 10: want to see how many people recognize me when you
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 10: walk into place?
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, some people do that.
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, yeah, so just kind of naturally they just
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 10: you see me start walking down Broadway on a Thursday night.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, struggle hills, checkte no doubt, a couple of bud
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 3: lights on a fishing boat. Yeah. Because I've talked to
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 3: other country artists that have been like at the top
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 3: and a piece them when they're at the top, they've
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 3: had this conversation of like I need to know and
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 3: figure out how to exit gracefully, because I think it's
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 3: like that they're way of saying, like, I know this
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 3: doesn't last forever, doesn't And it's kind of like I
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 3: want to get I want to get them before they
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 3: get me, kind of into like in the football world,
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 3: it's like you want to we all know father time
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 3: comes for all of us. Eventually someone says you can't
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 3: play this game anymore, and your and your brain you're like,
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 3: how do I get them? Whoever them is.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 2: It could be the team, it could be other players,
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 2: could be whatever before they get me. So you have
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: your You get to write your final chapter as opposed
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 2: to somebody else writing it for you and telling you
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 2: can't play. But you talk to guys and they're like,
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: I remember seeing well with one guy and he's like,
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 2: I just want to know the right way to exit
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 2: this path gracefully to where it can last forever.
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they're still going, and that's that's hard. Yeah, that's
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 10: a complicated. I mean, the great thing about country, at
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 10: least as an industry, is we all did do it
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 10: a long time. At least for me, I have become
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 10: way more. I was a punk when I started. In
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 10: a lot of ways, I wanted to blow everything up, right,
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 10: That's just that was my mentality. I want I want
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 10: to do everything my way. I don't care about what
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 10: the old guys did. I was that guy sat But
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 10: when you get older and you do it a long time,
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 10: you have a lot more respect for the guys that
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 10: came before you. You have a lot more You're a
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 10: lot more humble, and I think you end up falling
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 10: into understanding what your legacy the time you were given
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 10: means to a younger generation, just as their legacy meant
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 10: to me, and you you play into that I would
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 10: say it's the same thing with sports. You understand that
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 10: nobody's bigger than the game, and there's a lot of
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 10: that humbleness that I think happened with me that I
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 10: think it would be good for younger artists too. But
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 10: it's okay to also be the younger artist that thinks
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 10: it's you need to have that like I had that
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 10: at that time. You need that edge to get you
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 10: to greatness. And then when you get there, it's a
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 10: matter of kind of looking around and going Okay.
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: It's almost like a level of delusion, right, Like you
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 2: have to basically not see your blind spots and be like,
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 2: I'm truly I'm the greatest thing in the world.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 10: And you act on that, or you just do things
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 10: your own way and go, hey, I'm gonna do it
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 10: this way. I know it's never been done this way.
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna do it this way. But then you get
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 10: to a point when you have success and you look
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 10: around that Whaling Jennings did that too, right, and so
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 10: you can look Merle Haggard did that too. So you
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 10: can look at the people before Johnny Cash, they did that.
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 10: Will he's still doing it right, you know. So you
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 10: have so you have all these people and then you
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 10: start to see, Okay, I'm really no different than where
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 10: they were younger, Right, they did the same thing, but
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 10: then they they saw that nobody was bigger than the game.
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 10: And you understand your place in the industry. You understand
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 10: you're placing country music, and that's great about country Not
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 10: every format has that that that's a unique thing about
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 10: this industry.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, you bring up those those legends, like
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 3: when you're coming up, is there somebody that you idolized,
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 3: like this is your number one? Oh? A bunch.
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 10: I mean a lot of these guys. I mean, for me,
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 10: I had it was mine was a songwriter guy's because
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 10: he kind of changed my life. But Chris Krostofferson from
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 10: a songwriter and first of all, his life story is incredible.
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 10: You know, was army flu helicopters, you know, all these Rhodes,
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 10: scholar all.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 3: These you know what you know about this guy? Che
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 3: chef's away over there. That's yeah, chefs and old.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 2: Soul chef's and old soul chefs. Yeah, but you said,
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 2: Chris Christofferson, I'm thinking, I think of what do.
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 3: You think of?
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 2: Actually, you don't want me to tell you man, I
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 2: want to hear this. I'll tell you exactly where my
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 2: dumb brain went. It was the guy who plays the
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 2: Nazi and Gloria's bastards.
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 3: Christoph Waltz. Yeah, that's what I thought of Christoph Walts.
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 3: My brain didn't think.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm known in my head that I know
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 2: in my head that that's not the guy. But in
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 2: my brain it's like, that's what the guy ron who
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 2: said was in the three piece suit, Anthony soprano.
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 3: That's what I mean. Where my head went, I was like,
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 3: that's exactly what the guy looked like.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 10: It's closer, Okay, I'll Christopherson was actually the original Star
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 10: is Born, which was redone right with Bradle Bradley Cooper.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 10: So he was the original with Barbara streisand so he
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 10: was a movie star. He's anyway, he from a songwriting standpoint,
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 10: but he's one of the greatest writers of all time,
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 10: and I kind of gravitated as a songwriter. That was
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 10: kind of one of my guys. I got to meet
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 10: him and become friends with him later in life, but
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 10: it was just and then I of course I loved
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 10: Haggard and and and Wayland and George Jones and Cash
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 10: and all those guys because they did it a unique way.
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 10: George Strait was from and he's also a guy that's.
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 3: Kind of cool to say. Just now, Yeah, I said
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 3: this for a second, I'll do that. I'll do it
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 3: three or four times if you want to. For you,
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 3: do you have a nickname for George Streight?
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 10: We we mister King whatever, his highness, whatever he wants,
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 10: you know, whatever he wants. But he is one of
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 10: a kind. So for me getting to be around all
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 10: these guys has been great. But then again, I've I've
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 10: I've had some younger artists now that I mentor a bit.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 10: I do terrible jobs sometimes, but you know, we talk
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 10: about stuff like that. You know, we talk about the
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 10: overall mount Rushmore of country music and what being a
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 10: part of the industry means the future of the industry.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, is there there an up and comer that you
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 3: want to shout out? That's somebody to look out for.
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 10: Oh, there's a bunch of Yeah, there's a bunch of
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 10: guys like that. And girls and girls. I had an
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 10: interesting conversation.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 3: On this tour.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 10: Ella Langley opened some shows for me on this past
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 10: tour and it was it was right before it was
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 10: directly before the choosing texts or it was starting to
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 10: happen which has became a massive song. And it was interesting.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 10: We were in the dressing room and we were talking
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 10: and I said, I know something you don't know. I said,
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 10: your life's about to get really strange. So it's gonna
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 10: get really weird. What do you mean, I said, just
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 10: trust me, been there, and I said, as it gets weird,
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 10: and it will, I said, you need to make sure
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 10: you're going to have all these people that want you
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 10: to do all these things, movies, commercials, all this, I said.
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 10: And that's fine, I said, but you need to make
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 10: sure that you keep it about the music because you're
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 10: going to lose that a little bit in the noise
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 10: of this because it's going to be noisy, and it's
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 10: gotten noisy, you know. And that was just from being there.
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 10: I've done it, and you can lose yourself in it, right,
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 10: you can chase things you shouldn't chase, and she's done great.
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 10: But I mean that was just something that stuff like that,
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 10: you know, with seeing some people that are coming up
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 10: and about to hit a lick, and you know they're
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 10: about to hit a lick. It's what you do in
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 10: that lick. It's funny when you're in that, you never
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 10: think you're in it. I remember when Chief was happening
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 10: and all this stuff and we had all these things.
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 10: You never think in the moment you're actually in that moment,
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 10: like this is the moment that you always tell yourself about.
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 10: Then you're in it and you think, well, no, they'll
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 10: be We're just you know, there's more moments rocketship, right,
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 10: there'll be ten more, right whatever. You don't think of
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 10: it at the time until you look back on it
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 10: and go, damn, I didn't know that was the moment.
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 3: It's just like that's just part of getting older and going.
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 10: You got to appreciate it when you're in it and
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 10: quieting it down and enjoy it because that doesn't happen.
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 10: And when you're in that, you got to be able
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 10: to And I told her, I said, you've got to
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 10: be able to know that this is a moment and
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 10: enjoy the moment. Told Morgan the same thing, you know,
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 10: and Morgan's had a few of them, but the same thing.
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just so interesting that like in a competitive space,
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 2: it's so it's almost like a faux pas to sit
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 2: there and once you achieve something to be like I
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 2: did it, How great is this? Because I feel like
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 2: the competitor's brain immediately goes to how do I recreate
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 2: this or how do I take the next step or
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: how do those things to where you lose you know,
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: the being present in the moment, like I would enjoy
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 2: the process, right, Yeah, Like in twenty sixteen, I made
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 2: my first Pro Bowl with the Titans, and I remember,
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 2: like legit, calling my wife, hearing about it, like literally
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 2: outside of the facility, crying about it. Yeah, how happy
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 2: I was. And as soon as the season ended, it
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 2: was if I don't make another one, then that's just
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 2: a fluke and.
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 3: There's no way.
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 2: In my brain twelve, I'm thinking like, yeah, there's no
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 2: stop to this freight train now too, like it's going,
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 2: but it's like, but they're going to try to whoever
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 2: they are once again, they're going to try to get me.
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 2: How do I stay ahead of that? And then you retire,
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 2: all the things happen, you have peace with the career
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 2: you had, and you look back and you're like, dude,
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 2: I really wish I took more of a moment to
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 2: be like, this was fucking awesome to sit there and
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: your boys are kind of giving you a hugs, taking gratulations.
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 2: First one, it's amazing.
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 3: I wish, I wish, I wish the same thing.
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 2: It's just so interesting how Yeah, you're right, like you
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 2: never know when you're in the moment, you just you don't.
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: You almost like push the moment away from you, like
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: you don't want to fully invol yourself in it because
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 2: then you then you'll have to lose something.
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 10: And I'm not sure that that's even doable when you're
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 10: in the moment actually ever really appreciate it. Maybe that's
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 10: part of the nature of it. But that's something I
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 10: look back on and didn't realize at time.
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 3: This has been a phenomenal conversation. It has we have
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 3: some fan questions, we do, but the TVs have been
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 3: off the ding. Oh yeah, this has just been. This
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 3: has been we've been raw doging this whole thing. Yeah,
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 3: I know, TV, Yeah you see that. Yeah it don't work,
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 3: but I don't know much. But whatever doesn't turn on to.
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 4: Hey while we're pulling it up, we have we do
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 4: have a question in the back from from the next
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 4: Gen Congressman.
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 3: Chief is and not. I feel like I'm getting a
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 3: four year degree right now. This is unbelievable. I'll do
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 3: your convincement in ten minutes.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 9: So I appreciate it, but uh, now it's crazy. I
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 9: feel like you talking about the you know, your goats.
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 9: I'm twenty five now, so I'm like where you were
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 9: when you started. And so I'm in the room with
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 9: all the freshmen, you know, songwriters and these guys. Yeah,
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 9: and every single one of them. You're the goat artists,
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 9: like you're the guy we look to. And I tell
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 9: you the story real quick. I was sixteen. I was
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 9: like your show a bridge Stone, three hours, just you
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 9: and a guitar, and I was sitting there the whole
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 9: time with my arms crossed. I was like in the
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 9: back middle, like kind of lower bowl. I was sitting
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 9: there with my arms crossing. This drunk Mama three looks
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 9: at me about two hours in the show. She said, uh,
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 9: she said, are you miserable right now? You haven't smiled
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 9: all night?
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 3: And I was so I looked.
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 9: I don't even remember what I said, but I remember
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 9: that moment. I was like, I was so captivatd by
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 9: what you're doing. That was like a marking mode for me.
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 9: And then we played a show together in Wisconsin, right.
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 9: I remember you walked out there and I was this
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 9: was probably twenty twenty four summer, and I'll watch or say,
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 9: you're out there, you know, an hour and a half
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 9: just getting after it. The whole crowd has captivated all
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 9: the flags, everything. And it was a moment again because
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 9: I was like, man, this guy did it right way,
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 9: you know, and so I like literally left. I was like,
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 9: I gotta get out of my record deal. We got
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 9: to get this thing back on track after that show.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 9: But I'm curious because we talked about all the moments, right,
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 9: and I can imagine all those phone calls between William
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 9: Morris or you know, Universal, after you get kicked off
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 9: the tour get the record out, like get you're getting
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 9: yelled at.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 3: I've been on those calls before.
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 9: What was like the guiding principle for you in those
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 9: phone calls or after you get off that you're like, nah,
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 9: this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 10: That's a great question, I think. I mean at that
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 10: time again, I go back to you have to have
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 10: a little bit of that I'm going to show you
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 10: kind of thing I think every artist has to have
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 10: a little bit of that, and that created an edge
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 10: for me. Everybody needs an edge, whether you're an athlete
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 10: or whatever like that, you have to have that, and
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 10: at that time that was just another barrier for me.
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 10: It was like, Okay, I'm fired from flats because they
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 10: don't like me or whatever, and the industry is not
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 10: really buying into the musical stuff, so nobody thinks I'm
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 10: going to do this, and you double down and go, oh,
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 10: but I'm going to do this, and I'm going to
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 10: show you, and i'm gonna take names. I'm going to
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 10: keep a list, and i'm gonna make sure y'all know
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 10: I've got a list. And that's kind of what it
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 10: was for me at the time. I did the whole
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 10: the Michael Jordan thing where people talk about you know,
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 10: he would even create stories it didn't happen right, or
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 10: just to come in and go, this person said something
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 10: about me, and you go to the person and they're like,
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 10: I never talked about it, but he would do that
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 10: in his head. So I think a lot of that
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 10: for me was that just created more bearers and edge
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 10: that I made sure that.
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 3: I took out on him. When I had a chance.
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 10: The best way I can say it, and that's an
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 10: honest answer, Like I give youpc answer, that's an honest answer.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 10: I was putting that in and I was I had
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 10: a time planned when I was going to go, oh wait,
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 10: I'm coming, you know, and you're gonna deal with me.
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 3: That's dude. He talk about smelling flowers and trying to
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 3: realize moments like this is a moment like never in
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 3: my life did I think I would have a platform
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 3: or we'd have a platform Where Eric Church is sitting
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 3: on the bus giving some mentorship to Connor Smith. How
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 3: did you guys get into this great question? Will came over,
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 3: he was on he was at Washington and then he
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 3: was a free agent and came to the Titans. And
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 3: then there was this tweet or this article that took
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 3: place that was like Taylor Lawan and Will Compton are
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 3: going to be best friends. I was like, I felt
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 3: like my marriage was being arranged. So I see him
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 3: at like the in the chow hall one of the
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 3: first days of OTAs, which is organized team activities, and
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 3: he's with another free agent signee named Mike Campaner, and
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 3: they're laughing about something I have a silly goose time. Yeah.
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 2: So I walked over and like, hey, I see you
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 2: guys laughing. I can't want to laugh too. What's going on?
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 2: We end up like establishing this, establishing this like accountabill
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 2: of Buddies system because we got into podcasts about like biohacking. Yeah,
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 2: just our love for podcasts and listening to those things
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 2: is we're like driving to and from work or whatever,
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 2: just consume me as much podcast as possible. And so
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 2: at the end of the year, uh, we're gonna win
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 2: and get in game against the Colts whoever won that
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 2: game and go with the playoffs. Lose or your season
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 2: is done. We get Donkey stomped. So we have a
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 2: couple vitamins. We go to a Chinese restaurant. It was
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 2: best Walk, best Walk, and that's where Will hits me, Charlotte. Yeah,
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 2: hits me with a I want to I want to
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 2: do a podcast, and I feel way more comfortable if
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 2: you do it with me, and I'm I'm in because
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 2: I'm in a unique headspace.
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 2: And then three days later I flew to California started
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 2: training and he's like, hey, I will do this. I'll
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 2: wait for you I'll wait for you if you're actually
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 2: gonna do it. And so when I came back, that's
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 2: when we found the bus and the whole thing. But
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 2: this has been on This was on his mind years prior,
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 2: and I'll let you have.
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 3: And you had the whole busting with the boy did
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 3: you have with the boys? Mine was just podcasting, Like
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 3: I had journaled about wanting to start a podcas in
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 3: like twenty fifteen when I was in Washington, And obviously
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 3: I never pulled the trigger on it, because when you're
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 3: playing on a team, it's like you're always you're never
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 3: really doing anything for the name on the back. It's
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 3: always about name when your front, don't be a distraction.
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 3: But I love podcasting. Then when we got to know
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 3: each other kind of through podcasting, Ben Greenfield a few
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 3: podcasts that we were kind of bonding over that year,
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 3: I was on special teams. I was a backup. So
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 3: in my head, I'm thinking I could be on my
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 3: back nine, like this could be I could be going
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 3: back to being on a ninety man roster making a
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 3: fifty three. So the things that I am interested in,
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 3: I need to start getting on them, because when you're
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 3: in the league, your jokes are funny, or you're better
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 3: looking and you can shake more hands. So when I
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 3: started spitball with the idea of podcasting, I'd ask a
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 3: couple of teammates, because you want your peers to feel
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 3: like it'd be something. I remember, there's a few teammates
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 3: to be like, oh, well, you should have your own podcasts,
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 3: And that would almost be like a confidence booster internally
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 3: for me. And then when I went to Taylor to
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 3: ask him to do it, I thought it'd be I
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 3: just thought it'd be fun because you're always wearing a helmet,
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 3: you're performing on Sundays. People don't necessarily know the players
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 3: h or underneath the helmet because usually it's in media.
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 3: It's in the locker room after a game, but it's
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 3: never the sawn of conversations, the cafeteria stuff, the ball busting,
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 3: the things that make like a locker room great with
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 3: all different parts, all different walks of people. And Yeah,
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 3: when he said he'd do it, I more started like
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 3: interviewing or figuring out who we could get to build
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 3: this podcast. I was trying to look at I'm trying
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 3: to google things on the internet. Rogan had like an
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 3: equipment list. I'm reaching out to two people South for Sela,
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 3: who was with First Form. They had a podcast with
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 3: Andy for Sella. He's putting me on game on the
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 3: equipment to buy because I knew it was important to
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 3: like own and control your IP. And then we started
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 3: to interview producers. There was just one cardboard, right, cardboard, Yeah,
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 3: cardboard over in Wedgwood, and so when Taylor got back,
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 3: we were working with cardboard at the time to kind
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 3: of figure out, Hey, what's this podcast going to look like?
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 3: And there was a bus. This bus was sitting behind
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 3: the loading dock over in Wedgwood over here and it
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 3: was just sitting back there. It was abandoned. It was
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 3: a piece of shit. There's seats everywhere, washed nests and cardboard.
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 3: Pitch to me, Hey, what do you think about doing
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 3: it on this bus? We think it'd be cool, And
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 3: I was like, I thought it was a brutal idea.
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 3: Because Taylor was in town. He was gone all January
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 3: through April. He got in town April, and so if
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 3: we were going to do this pod, we had the
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 3: backlog episodes wall Taylor's in town for a couple of
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 3: months doing ots. I was a free agent, at the time,
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 3: and so I knew we only had like eight to
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 3: ten weeks to get stuff in. So in my brain
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, yeah, this could take a minute. We got
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 3: to just figure out a studio so we can start
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 3: doing interviews. Taylor pulled me aside. He was like, look,
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 3: I'll buy this bus for two grand. He's like, I'll
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 3: throw ten into it. And he's like if we can't
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 3: get it done, and like, well was it ten days time?
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 3: He's like, if it doesn't work, I'll just keep in
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 3: my backyard because I think it's a badass bus. Yeah.
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 2: I was late for the meeting and I was like,
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 2: Taylor's gonna love it. I fall in love easy. Yeah,
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 2: don't give me your phone number because I will just
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 2: all just be Hey, what'll we doing tonight? Yeah yeah,
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 2: face having and breaking down the finale game of Throne.
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah, exactly. So this I fell in love with
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 3: this immediately. This, Yeah, this is incredible and we're all
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 3: this sound like all the build out, the buildouts in
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 3: the back. It all got done within ten days and
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 3: we just started ripping. We plug it into a generator
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 3: that was part of this r V. Yeah, yeah, this
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 3: RV business and we would just steal electricity. We kind
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 3: of asked permission at times, but we'd steal electricity plugging
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 3: the generator. We got a little AC unit that would
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 3: sit up there that we'd have on before the pod started.
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 3: But once we started, if this was the first year, summertime, Eric,
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 3: we'd be sitting we'd have uh, we'd have tarp over
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 3: the bus. We'd have to turn the AC off, and
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 3: we'd be sitting in here about ninety degree. He was
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 3: just ripping a podcast, and then a train would go
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 3: by every twenty five to thirty minutes. Yeah, yeah, this
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 3: is normal. Yeah, this is all part of the process.
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 3: Was Yeah, but wait, like he kind of was just
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 3: we just started. There was like Will writes a lot
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 3: of things down. I'm more of a shoot from the
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 3: hip kind of guy. And so we had the Big Guy.
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 2: Big Guy was like, I want to do a den
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 2: and then a bunch of things, and I would always
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 2: call it a working title, and then we kind of
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 2: landed on Busting with the Boys.
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember telling my wife like, hey, bustling with
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 3: the boys, what do you think. She's like, they'll never work. Yeah,
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 3: and then yeah, it's just kind of yeah, it took off.
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 3: Had it's the first time you get to see things now. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 3: we had seven minutes like before you got to get
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 3: out of here. Yeah, the band questions, We got one
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 3: here from Leviani sixteen. Uh. He is such a little
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 3: fan base. Many of them traveled to multiple shows in
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 3: different cities and even states, myself included. Does he ever
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 3: recognize people in the crowd. Are the fans seen or
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 3: do the shows tend to blur together? I know he
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 3: appreciates his fans, but just curious how he sees us. Yeah.
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 10: I recognized a lot of them over the years, you know,
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 10: and a lot of them there's some still that were
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 10: with us, Like when there were still ten people in Amarillo.
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 10: There weren't ten people in Amula.
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 3: They were like four. But along with shows, you know,
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 3: like I recognize, yeah, like people back in those little
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 3: pockets were not even ten people in there at all year.
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 10: The best thing now for me is the ones that
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 10: were there that were younger at that time, they now
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 10: have kids and some of them are older kids and
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 10: they'll bring them to the shows. And I actually now
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 10: I have the generation where some of them the kids
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 10: have had young kids. So it's two generations, so that
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 10: they're now grandkids that were with me start twenty some
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 10: years ago. So it's interesting to see those people now,
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 10: the generational stuff, which I love watch.
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 2: So that is that is awesome when it comes to
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 2: your cod I went to one of your concerts in
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. You sang these boots and I think you
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: took your boot off.
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't, but they did.
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 2: They did, and they throw them on the stage.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 3: They do. They throw them at you.
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 2: Have you ever have you ever taken one or have
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 2: you ever seen a boot? Been like kind of kind
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 2: of like that one?
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 10: I have taken above that, but I've taken a couple
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 10: a couple of shots. I will tell you a great
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 10: story because we were just talking about it. But a
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 10: buddy of mine here in towns Zane's been weaper and
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 10: he's friends with Eli Manny and he does all the
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 10: graduate stuff and AJ. So he came to see me
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 10: in Chicago and we had this big walk that went
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 10: out in the middle. And in Chicago there was somebody
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 10: on the upper level. So I can only when I
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 10: see shadows like I can't really see the boot, but
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 10: I can feel them. I've played enough shows and I
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 10: was sitting out there, and he was directly behind me
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 10: in the pit, right below me in this boot. I
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 10: feel this thing coming, like the matrix. I feel this
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 10: thing coming, and I just kind of I lean back
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 10: and so microphones like this. I'm singing and I lean back.
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 3: In the boot goes right through like that slow motion
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 3: hits him right, no shit, yeah, blood the whole deal.
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 10: And he was like later I kind of told him,
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 10: He said, how'd you know that? And I was like, man,
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 10: I just I feel it.
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 3: Feeling, you know, I'm feeling the thing. But we've had
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 3: a bunch of those over the years that it's taking
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 3: a couple of shots.
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned Ben because he sent me at
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 2: texts and he has a fan question as well.
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how many in the line?
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 2: How many points a game did he average in high school?
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 2: That's one of his questions.
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 3: That's a good question. Senior year probably over twenty Oh
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 3: you were a beast like that. But hold on now,
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 3: how hold are you? I'm forty nine. Not a lot
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 3: of video video from back then. He could be. He
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 3: could be. Why would he lie though?
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? He doesn't seem like twenty is a lot. Twenty
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  Speaker 3: is a lot of points. Yeah, I was gonna lie.
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  Speaker 3: I would say thirty six. It was like, that's a
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  Speaker 3: fun word. Oh you were like that.
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  Speaker 10: I was a good basketball for Did you get the
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  Speaker 10: All State? I was all I was All Conference. I
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  Speaker 10: didn't get All State, but I was was good. I
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  Speaker 10: know that was a chip on the shoulder.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that worked out for me. That's what did you
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  Speaker 3: play football all.
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  Speaker 10: Early on my crowd and one basketball took over. I
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  Speaker 10: got hurt my freshman year of football and couldn't play basketball.
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  Speaker 4: That was it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, once it once it knocked into basketball season, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, you can have this. I'm done. We can't
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  Speaker 3: have this at all.
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  Speaker 2: This comes from Drew Jones, app State versus UNC in
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  Speaker 2: any sport. Who does he pick? It's not close.
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  Speaker 3: I had I had that feeling tough time to be
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  Speaker 3: a football fan North Carolina. It's it's not a tough time.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Caroline is always we're chasing football. We've been
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 3: chasing football a while. But it's actually it's it's it's
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  Speaker 3: also an intriguing time. Yeah, you have to be intrigued.
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  Speaker 2: That's a glass, that's a glass half full.
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  Speaker 3: Move right there. You have to you have to be
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  Speaker 3: in there's no way you're intrigue. Have you met Billy?
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  Speaker 3: Have you met a better half? I have not. I
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  Speaker 3: was now I was down. Recently I played was at
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 3: a golf event with Bill.
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  Speaker 10: We played golf. He just hit a couple of shots.
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  Speaker 10: We were playing in a group and he kind of
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  Speaker 10: popped in.
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  Speaker 3: But it was it was good. It was a good event. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we got one here from the head coach of the
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 3: Bengal Zach Taylor ten. Does he sleep in his sunglasses
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 3: or is he and I rub in the morning? Than
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 3: sunglasses are put on type of guy? Also, what is
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 3: the go to lens shape? These are hard hitting questions.
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  Speaker 10: You're only going to find them the boys, Barb Barbara
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  Speaker 10: Walters ship here. No, I don't sleep in sunglasses and
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  Speaker 10: I don't wear on aton you know I'm outside. But
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 10: and then shape, Now it's like the Wayfarer shape used
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 10: to be, uh, the Aviators, which is kind of what
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 10: started it for me, But now it's kind of aging.
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 10: The wayfair is more of an aging. Yeah, Ray Bans, Look,
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  Speaker 10: I was surprised.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised when he came in with clear lenses,
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  Speaker 2: hoping you'd be sitting in the darkness with us the
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  Speaker 2: whole time.
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  Speaker 3: I had done it, all of us, just with a
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  Speaker 3: head on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I brought glasses to day actually, but all good,
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  Speaker 2: all good. This one comes from Alan make sure JP
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  Speaker 2: asked him about his days in Greenville at the Blind Horse.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Jp, the Blind Horse, the greatest small town of
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  Speaker 4: it in Greenville.
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  Speaker 3: I've played there a lot. I've spent a week there,
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 3: many nights. JP. Did you ever hit one of the shows. No, not,
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  Speaker 3: I'm thirty. You would have been something. You'd have been
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 3: a kid.
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  Speaker 4: But still yeah, I wouldn't be I wouldn't have been
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 4: able to get in the Blind Horses.
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  Speaker 3: Warning, your team's running a tight ship over here. That's good.
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  Speaker 3: One minute warning was getting typed in as you're yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's a perfect time. That's it. Do you ever ride
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 3: a pass for Ari Churchill? Mister s cheap coming on
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  Speaker 3: the bus and with the boys.
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  Speaker 2: It has been an episode, honor, seriously, thank you so
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  Speaker 2: much for taking the time, because we are massive fans.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this before you go. Twenty sixteen offensive
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 2: line for the Tennessee Titans are like, hey, what should
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  Speaker 2: we come out to? Because we always get introduced at
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 2: warm us and the Outsiders was a song we chose.
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 2: I also used to after my cold tub before games,
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 2: take a cold shower and listen to mixed drinks about
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  Speaker 2: feelings within you and tear up right.
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  Speaker 3: Before you take a cold shower before or after you
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  Speaker 3: listen to it. I was during daring They're out, haven't
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 3: sitting right there, and so guys, precious time there. I
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 3: would have it down to where I would hit my
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 3: hot tub cold tub contrast, I would go to the shower,
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 3: I put on mixed drinks about feelings in you, and
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  Speaker 3: I'd sit there and I think about how sad I
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 3: was for whatever reason, because we're trying to get the chip.
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  Speaker 3: for me right now, they're coming to get you. Yep.
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