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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Thursday, June twenty seventh time your host
- 0:03Tom or the Akron game in sixty five days, the game against Michigan in
- 0:07one hundred and fifty six days. Change is coming to college football. That
- 0:11is really almost dog bites man, at this point, change is constantly coming
- 0:15to college football. But this is a pretty significant change, and it is
- 0:20a change that we have been hearing was on the way for multiple years and
- 0:23that it didn't happen. It didn't happen. Well, this week it is
- 0:26finally happening. A change to the rules about which college football coaches can do
- 0:31what and when. This is one of these things that might be a little
- 0:35bit of a bigger deal than it seems on the surface. We're going to
- 0:37bring in our buddy Tony Gurdaman if fuck I haddle that Colm to talk about
- 0:40it. Tony. This is something, as I said, we heard multiple
- 0:44years ago. This was maybe on the cusp of happening, and then it
- 0:47just never happened. Now it has finally happened. So can you explain the
- 0:51change in the rules involving coaching staffs. Yeah, the new change is that
- 0:55basically anybody on a football staff can now provide, as the NCAA says,
- 1:02technical and tactical instruction, which is on field coaching when and whether it's on
- 1:07the practice field during the game. Before you only had a certain number of
- 1:11coaches, your your ten assistants, your head coach. You're for graduate assistants
- 1:18that could really be involved in actual coaching. And the idea that you know,
- 1:25the the QC guys could only go over film or the analyst can only
- 1:30look over the film, and you can't actually coach, but you can help
- 1:34players look at film, and like you had to stop talking to a player
- 1:37at a certain point. You can't like field of dreams, you can't cross
- 1:40over the white line. If you do, there's no going back. And
- 1:44so now all of that has just been wiped away. And it's like,
- 1:48if you're if you're under the if you're in the building, go ahead and
- 1:52coach somebody. Basically, well, and this is one of these rules that
- 1:56it was a rule, but anytime you talk to anyone around college football about
- 2:00it, it was always one of those rules that they everyone was sure that
- 2:04everyone else was breaking this rule in some way or bending this rule because it
- 2:07was, you know, one of the functionally very difficult to enforce. And
- 2:13this just feels like one of these things where it was a rule, how
- 2:17much were you enforcing it, how much was everyone following it? And you
- 2:21know, this is potentially limiting a lot of people's career advance and that kind
- 2:23of stuff. And you know, how what's the real benefit here, because
- 2:28you know, Ryan da talked about this as a potential change about a week
- 2:31ago when we got a chance to talk to him, and he talked about
- 2:34this as a great opportunity for young coaches to kind of get the foot in
- 2:38the door, more opportunities to coach, more opportunities to get on staffs in
- 2:42general. I mean this, this seems like this is probably by and large
- 2:46going to be a great thing for college football coaches. Yeah, And as
- 2:49you're saying that, I'm just thinking, it's kind of like putting together a
- 2:52roster using high school recruiting and the transfer portal. Because we have seen how
- 2:57some of these analysts are the form head coaches who are sixty five years old
- 3:01and have all the knowledge in the world, and others are guys that have
- 3:05been in the business for you know, three years or whatever and coaching and
- 3:08sometimes you might need an older voice, so you go get a former coach.
- 3:12Sometimes you want some youth in there. You see it up and comer
- 3:15and you can really fix your your coaching roster the way you want. And
- 3:22now this gives everybody an opportunity to coach, and not just you're the guy
- 3:27that goes and gets the coffee, you're the guy that goes and cuts the
- 3:30film. You can actually provide coaching and grow from it. And I'm fascinated
- 3:37to see how this plays out during a game, whether you've got four defensive
- 3:42line coaches down there on the sidelines providing help for people, or is you
- 3:46know, how are they gonna use all of these different bodies that they can
- 3:51now do if they want? But also how many cooks are too many in
- 3:54the kitchen? You get a weigh those sorts of things. But this is
- 4:00something that coaches have been asking for, head coaches, assistant coaches, all
- 4:03coaches. Why would you want to have more access and more ability to grow,
- 4:10to help and in a more what you would consider meaningful way. And
- 4:15I have not seen this is we're going to get real nitty gritty here.
- 4:19I have not seen any clarity on does this limit the number of coaches who
- 4:24can be on headsets during game because, as you said, you could have
- 4:27theoretically four defensive line coaches down there and each one is coaching one individual guy
- 4:30if you wanted to. There are rules right now in terms of how many
- 4:33people can have headsets on, who can have headsets on, and who can
- 4:38talk on the headsets versus who can just listen on the headsets. I have
- 4:42not seen any clarity on that. You know, those types of changes for
- 4:46game day? Do you happen to know? Have you seen that anywhere?
- 4:48I don't. I don't know that that's been spelled out necessarily. I have
- 4:51not, And that's why I'm just assuming it has not changed, you know
- 4:56the fact that they're not addressing it. And that's that's why I Housell said
- 5:00coaches on the sidelines, because I don't if you're going to change. And
- 5:02plus, you can't have sixteen coaches up in the booth anyway. For one
- 5:06that doesn't fit for two, that is way too many voices. So there's
- 5:11also a fine line up in the booth as well, trying to provide information
- 5:15for Chip Kelly or you know, Jim Knowles, like you only want a
- 5:20couple of voices in your ear. Try doing it with any job you have,
- 5:25or you know, driving, Try Tom when you're driving and you know
- 5:29how we have to turn down the radio if for getting a little lost or
- 5:31we need something. I imagine, now you've got like four coaches in your
- 5:34ears while you're trying to find your turn. I have two kids in the
- 5:41backseat and a wife in the passenger seat. I don't need to imagine,
- 5:44Tony, I know all about that. Yes, that is I understand the
- 5:48NCAA rules on that for sure. You know. Ryan Day talked about this
- 5:53in the context of opportunities for young coaches and how this would be a potentially
- 5:57a great thing for them in that realm. This this is also potentially going
- 6:00to be something that will really benefit Ryan Day and Ohio State and other big
- 6:04programs who can afford to bring in former head coaches, other you know,
- 6:10veteran voices and the more guys. You know. Nick Saban famously had the
- 6:15what was colloquially known as the Nick Saban School for Wayward Boys, which was
- 6:18fired head coaches who came in and were just sort of breaking down film and
- 6:24just sort of being other voices in that building. This you know, if
- 6:28you're a program like Ohio State or Alabama or any of the other Georgia,
- 6:31any of the big programs in the nation, you can probably afford to bring
- 6:36in close to an unlimited number of these people. Whatever you feel the maximum
- 6:42useful number is, you can probably bring in close to that number or that
- 6:46number. This seems like it might be something that's going to benefit the big
- 6:50schools more than it does the smaller schools. Yeah, I would agree with
- 6:56that because you could now there are more big schools that can go go at
- 7:00a smaller school's offensive coordinator and make them assistant too of the quarterbacks coach.
- 7:04However, you still have to operate under the direction of one head coach,
- 7:11and so everybody has to fall in line with what he wants, or everybody
- 7:15on defense has to fall in line with what the defensive coordinator wants. And
- 7:17sometimes if you get too many guys and there are too many head coaches who
- 7:20I've done it my way forever, you know, like Greg Shianna when he
- 7:25was a head coach, or when he finally came back to being an assistant
- 7:29coach under erbt Meyer, he said, I'm a pretty good assistant coach because
- 7:31now I know what I wanted from my assistants, and that's great. But
- 7:34there are other head coaches who are you know, I'm still the head coach.
- 7:40I should still be the head coach, and you've got to just weed
- 7:43those guys out and you've got to, like with anything, you've got to
- 7:45vet who you're going to hire. But they all have to be in line
- 7:48with the head coach. And I think that's a lot easier for the younger
- 7:53coaches because that's all they've ever known, the older coaches, which is why
- 7:57it's so amazing that Nick Saban was able to do what he did. But
- 8:00you also not everybody is Nick Saban. Yeah, a veteran coach is going
- 8:05to be like, Okay, I respect you, I understand you. I'm
- 8:07going to listen to exactly what you want. You're the greatest of all time.
- 8:11Somebody else might come in and whether it's you know, Luke Fickle or
- 8:13Ryan Day or Surean Moore, Yeah, I know what I'm doing, just
- 8:18coming you know, let me be, let me do my job. Like
- 8:20everybody has to have the same the same vision as the head coach, and
- 8:26so you just got to be careful there too. Yeah. Nick Saban was
- 8:30famously when he got to Alabama gave the what was known as the tip of
- 8:33the spear speech where he said, you know, it was basically like,
- 8:35look at me, I'm the captain now, and he got Alabama boosters to
- 8:39fall in line. So if you can get Alabama boosters to fall in line,
- 8:41what are a few former head coaches? How that can't be very difficult
- 8:46at all after getting Alabama boosters. And Tony, just as you were saying
- 8:50talking about you know, hey, the the you know, veteran coach on
- 8:54the staff and you know, maybe not the biggest name or most established head
- 8:58coach, or maybe get maybe a guy on shaky footing, and how that
- 9:01might create some issues. I just the name Bobby Petrino popped into my head,
- 9:05Tony, do you know who Bobby Petrino's staff? Whose staff Bobby Petrino
- 9:07is on this year? I believe Sam Pittman in Arkansas, Sam Pittman at
- 9:13Arkansas. Ladies and gentlemen, just file that information away for later. We
- 9:16may revisit that around. Consider just the mystery mousek a tool, a surprise
- 9:20tool that we that will help us later. We may revisit the Sam Pittman
- 9:24Bobby Patrino conversation in oh October. Let's say October eighth. We'll say,
- 9:30we'll see see where things stand on October eighth on that one. So not
- 9:33necessarily always a great thing to add more people to your staff, but in
- 9:39a lot of cases, and potentially for schools like Ohio State, potentially a
- 9:41very beneficial change that is coming to college football this year. Lots of other
- 9:46college changes coming to college football this year. The whole team playoff, Big
- 9:48Ten expansion, all that exciting fun stuff. We're been covering all of it
- 9:52for you this year at bucke huddle dot com. That's where Tony, Kevin
- 9:54and I cover the team, Mark covers recruiting. We had our whole team
- 9:58of ex's and OS gurus making you a smart a football fan all at bucke
- 10:01huddle dot com. We hope to see you there. That'll do it for
- 10:03today. Thank you guys all for joining us every great day. We'll talk
- 10:07to you tomorrow.