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Losing the V-Card with Colton Underwood · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio. Hey guys, it's Ashley and it's only
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  Speaker 1: me today, which you know makes sense because I do
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  Speaker 1: have like two and a half weeks to make up
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  Speaker 1: four and then tomorrow it's all Ben because he is
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  Speaker 1: hitting the road with a Bachelor Live show, and he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be doing the podcast from Bachelor Live. I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of people still have questions about what
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  Speaker 1: the show is all about, and I'm sure he's going
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  Speaker 1: to give you all the answers tomorrow and then before
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna be buying tickets to it and
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  Speaker 1: excited to see Ben live in action. But this is
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  Speaker 1: me hi, and I will be joined with my co
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  Speaker 1: host for the day because I can't talk to myself
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  Speaker 1: for an entire half an hour like Ben does. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I got producer Tory and producer Mark on the line
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  Speaker 1: as well, and they'll be chiming in. And um, I
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  Speaker 1: just thought it would start with talking about my honeymoon
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Right now, Jared and I are kind
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  Speaker 1: of in a transition phase out of the honeymoon, not
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  Speaker 1: the honeymoon phase, of course, but the actual vacation um
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  Speaker 1: and into real life. Right now, we're in New York City.
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  Speaker 1: We're doing four days here because I'm not somebody who
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  Speaker 1: could ever do that thirteen fourteen hour flight from the
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  Speaker 1: Mediterranean to Los Angeles. Actually it looked magical. Well, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, So, Jared. I decided to do four days
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  Speaker 1: here because I'd like to say that I needed a
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  Speaker 1: pit stop in between, you know, Greece in l A.
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  Speaker 1: But the truth is we had to pick up our
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  Speaker 1: dog Lois. My mom was dropping her off tomorrow, and
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  Speaker 1: I had to see the Jonas brollers at Madison Square Garden,
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  Speaker 1: Like I had to see them specifically at Madison Square Garden.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, Jared, they happened to be there
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  Speaker 1: on our way over to the West Coast again. So
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  Speaker 1: it's just a nostalgic thing for me. Back in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and eight, I went to all three consecutive matt
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  Speaker 1: us In Square Garden shows, so I couldn't not do
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  Speaker 1: it this time eleven years later. Anyway, didn't you do
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  Speaker 1: like an invite? Um? I got invited secret show back
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  Speaker 1: in March. It was like the best, it was one.
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  Speaker 1: It was maybe my favorite Jonas concert I've ever been to. Actually, yeah, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that was so much fun. But our honeymoon was quite magical.
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  Speaker 1: We left the day after our wedding, which was really
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  Speaker 1: just unreal, unreal. You guys heard a lot of stress
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  Speaker 1: that I had going into it, especially that last month,
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  Speaker 1: but you would never photos, You would never know. It
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  Speaker 1: looked like the most magical wedding I've ever seen. Well,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, because it was. It was the ultimate perfect
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  Speaker 1: wedding for Jared and me. Every little stress that we
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  Speaker 1: had and every little frustrate shan and every my like
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  Speaker 1: minute detail that we focused on in that last month
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  Speaker 1: or two was so worth it because the day was
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  Speaker 1: designed for us. Our wedding planner, Troy Williams of Simply Troy,
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  Speaker 1: and his amazing team of people who flew out to
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  Speaker 1: Rhode Island for it put together something that I could
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  Speaker 1: not have even dreamed of. After the rehearsal dinner, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, that was a wedding. How is tomorrow going
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  Speaker 1: to get any better? Because we had these amazing, heartfelt speeches.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know how you're going to
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  Speaker 1: top this. And then the day happened and it was
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  Speaker 1: just mind blowing. You know how you wait your entire
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  Speaker 1: life for your honeymoon and your wedding and now it's over,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm part of me will like say to Jared,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be like, I'm sad it's over. He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but it was so perfect that I don't even want
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  Speaker 1: to go back and do it again. Like if we
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  Speaker 1: had an option of doing it again, I wouldn't even
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  Speaker 1: want because there was nothing we could change. It was
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  Speaker 1: just my God perfection. Okay, Anyway, that's enough. Are you
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  Speaker 1: the person though that like walks away from their wedding
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  Speaker 1: being like I totally remember all of it, or are
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  Speaker 1: you kind of like I really wish I could have
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  Speaker 1: taken advantage of, like more time on the dance floor
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  Speaker 1: or something. I think I said that this was going
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  Speaker 1: to be a regret of mine going going into our
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  Speaker 1: wedding week. But I knew that it was unfortunate that
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  Speaker 1: we did stress so much over the planning of it
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  Speaker 1: until truly, like Thursday was when we the Thursday before
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  Speaker 1: our Sunday wedding was the day that we really were
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  Speaker 1: able to calm down and just start enjoying things. But
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  Speaker 1: once we did just stop planning, we did take everything in.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't it was it wasn't a blur, That's not
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  Speaker 1: the word I would use. But it did go fast,
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  Speaker 1: Like I remember every single element, and I remember like
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  Speaker 1: each individual person I stopped to at the table to
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  Speaker 1: talk with. But like to think that that happened over
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  Speaker 1: the course of four hours or is the reception is
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  Speaker 1: mind boggling because it felt like it was maybe an
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  Speaker 1: hour and a half. And how did your sister do
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  Speaker 1: on her speech? We all know she was dressed. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my goodness. I basically I got up there after she
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  Speaker 1: was done. I was like, Lord, what the heck? What
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  Speaker 1: the heck was that? That was the most amazing thing
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  Speaker 1: ever stage fright my ass. It was like, Lauren, you
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  Speaker 1: look like you seemed as if you were a professional
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  Speaker 1: public speaker up there. She had um it was like
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  Speaker 1: a slide show with pictures and video. She had gone
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  Speaker 1: into my parents, you know, like the room in the
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  Speaker 1: house that has all the old photo albums and all
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  Speaker 1: the old video tapes, the videotapes that you honestly can't
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  Speaker 1: even watch anymore because you have to find like the
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  Speaker 1: VHS adapter and then you have to find a VHS player. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she got all those videos ripped and like digital ties
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  Speaker 1: did you just digital tie digital. You guys help me
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  Speaker 1: out with this word dig digit tize and she wove
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  Speaker 1: it together in this beautiful story. It was epic. Even
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  Speaker 1: my dad, who does public speak on like a monthly basis,
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  Speaker 1: was like, wow, now I'm competing with my daughter who
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  Speaker 1: literally tried to back out of this. That is beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what really got me and I think
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  Speaker 1: most guys, is that little video that I saw going
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  Speaker 1: around of Jared when he first saw you in your
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  Speaker 1: dress and he gets that look on his face that
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  Speaker 1: you don't like to get in public, but it happens
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  Speaker 1: because that was my moment on my wedding day. That
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  Speaker 1: is such a magical moment and you just can't help it.
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  Speaker 1: You just overcome with everything in dresses. Like I think
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  Speaker 1: I've said before, there's that line where Katherine Heigel just
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  Speaker 1: loves looking at the guy. Gotthron Heigel and James marsin
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  Speaker 1: love looking at the guy as the doors open to
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  Speaker 1: reveal the bride, because that is just like the most
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  Speaker 1: raw emotional moment. Everybody's looking constraight on the bride, but
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  Speaker 1: the groom's a is something not to be missed. Did
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  Speaker 1: you see it or were the lights too bright? Could
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  Speaker 1: you see what was going on there? The lights weren't
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  Speaker 1: too bright. I saw it right away. I was like, well, great,
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  Speaker 1: I got exactly what I dreamed of. I wanted him
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  Speaker 1: to be emotional. It was so weird was that I
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  Speaker 1: didn't cry until we started reading our vows. I was
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  Speaker 1: just all smiles, which actually that may seem surprising to
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor viewing audience, but knowing myself, I'm more of
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  Speaker 1: like a beamer. I'm like more of like a big
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  Speaker 1: smiley person when I'm happy. And I knew that when
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  Speaker 1: I started saying words, I was going to get emotional.
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  Speaker 1: That is the hardest part. Yeah, to get through that,
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  Speaker 1: we had we had our pastor read our violence because
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  Speaker 1: we knew there was no chance. Really you wrote them,
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  Speaker 1: wrote them, handed them over. That awesome. Oh, that's so awesome.
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised when I was reading them, um, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, going through them before the ceremony, I
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  Speaker 1: was too king up reading them just to myself, like
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  Speaker 1: in my own brain, but I and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: there are some lines in here I'm never going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to utter, And then I did. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it must be adrenaline or something to me, I think
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  Speaker 1: the renly could make it worse, make you more emotional,
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  Speaker 1: make you more just kind of walk on that razor's edge.
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you a little bit of a funny
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  Speaker 1: tidbit from the wedding, but we do want to save
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  Speaker 1: some wedding stuff to go through when Ben and I
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  Speaker 1: are back together recording next week. Um, but I'll here's
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  Speaker 1: a little something for you about vows. I skipped a
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  Speaker 1: page in the middle of my vows and it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: until I went halfway down that like fourth page, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I think I'm missing
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  Speaker 1: some slick content here. And then I had to like
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  Speaker 1: be like, oh, I missed the page, and then we
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  Speaker 1: went back. It's kind of it was cute, but it
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  Speaker 1: was one of those moments that really broke the tension
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  Speaker 1: in the room. For four little pages. We got these
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  Speaker 1: really cute customized vowel books with our initials on it.
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  Speaker 1: And it was also four because you don't want yours
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  Speaker 1: before if his is two, and vice versa. Our wedding
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  Speaker 1: planner came to me um during the wedding the afternoon
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  Speaker 1: of the wedding and he said, I just met with
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  Speaker 1: Jared and he read our he read his vows to
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  Speaker 1: you to me, and then he was like, he's like,
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  Speaker 1: they're perfect. You're gonna love them. It's going to be
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  Speaker 1: everything you've ever wanted. And I was like, okay, fine,
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  Speaker 1: do you want to read mine then? Because I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna keep mine really personal. I just had my sister
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  Speaker 1: read them, and then he read them and he was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is like so crazy, you guys. They're perfect balanced students.
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  Speaker 1: You know, both of you are going to be super happy.
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  Speaker 1: And then um, they're like the exact same amount of
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  Speaker 1: time in length. That's perfect. Yeah, really it was. Really
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  Speaker 1: it could not have been better. Well, it looked like it,
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  Speaker 1: but sometimes you don't know. You see the videos in
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  Speaker 1: the picture on social media a lot. That's what they
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  Speaker 1: want us to see, you know. But it's good to
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  Speaker 1: know that actually was as beautiful as it looked. Really was.
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  Speaker 1: Our photographer said she was like, thank you guys for
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  Speaker 1: being so nice and stuff, and I was like, what
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  Speaker 1: do you mean, like kind of bride and groomly aren't nice.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, some people are just so moody and grouchy
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  Speaker 1: on their wedding day and they're complaining about everything. I
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  Speaker 1: was like there wasn't a thing to get like get
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  Speaker 1: like that over. Colton is on hold, So why don't
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  Speaker 1: you take a break and actually creating. It's a perfect
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  Speaker 1: time for Creighton barre hole. So we'll do that and
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  Speaker 1: come back with Colton. All right, sounds good, Colton. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: where are you? Oh no, I'm in Nashville right now? Okay? Cool?
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  Speaker 1: Oh nice? What are you doing in Nashville? Just hanging
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  Speaker 1: out visiting some friends and pernamente it like a little
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: bigly cap right. Oh nice. Um So, Cassie, I actually
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  Speaker 1: stalked some of your social media you may have seen earlier.
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  Speaker 1: I was just liking a whole bunch of your tweets
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  Speaker 1: from August. Who's like, actually like any likes even of
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  Speaker 1: your tweets? Um. I was just you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just do a little pre interview research. And Cassie has
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  Speaker 1: like the same thing that she does on the plane
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  Speaker 1: every time you guys are on a plane. What's that?
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  Speaker 1: What is that? I thought you said that she has
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  Speaker 1: a routine that she does all the time. Oh well,
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  Speaker 1: when she was in school, she like when she was
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  Speaker 1: in school, all she would do is like homework on
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  Speaker 1: the plane. And I don't know we sort of got
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  Speaker 1: really really good at traveling together, but our luck traveling
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  Speaker 1: together is like maybe the worst. Why, Like we're very compati,
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  Speaker 1: we're very compatible with with traveling, and we play off
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  Speaker 1: each other very well, but we always have like the
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  Speaker 1: worst luck. Like we got here in Naturale last night
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  Speaker 1: and our backs were still in Houston, and it's definitely
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  Speaker 1: completely out of control and like flup that typically happened,
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  Speaker 1: you know with airports drama, whether it's sitting on the
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  Speaker 1: tarmac or twice being delayed, or I know one time
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  Speaker 1: it was our fault, like I left my wallet which
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  Speaker 1: had my ID and her I D back at the
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  Speaker 1: house when we got to the airport, so we were
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  Speaker 1: like scrambling at the last minute in this our flight.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just it's sort of like just sort of
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  Speaker 1: like our running dope that we're like very compatible travel partners,
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  Speaker 1: we just have like the worst luck. Do you guys
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  Speaker 1: feel like one of you in life is more lucky
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  Speaker 1: than the other one, Because I feel that Jared has
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  Speaker 1: what he calls his Polish luck and I have the
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  Speaker 1: world's best luck, and I feel like mine balances out
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  Speaker 1: ours a little bit. But I do feel like with
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  Speaker 1: us there will be moments or I'm like, Jared, that's
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  Speaker 1: such your polish look like coming through. Oh, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's I think it's mostly hurt. She has such good luck,
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  Speaker 1: and I just sort of try to, like what you
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  Speaker 1: just said, I try to like feel or at least
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  Speaker 1: like take them of her locks, just to hopefully rub
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  Speaker 1: off on me. Yeah. So, um, you have been watching
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise. I saw even you've been catching up
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  Speaker 1: on it a little bit of a binge. It is hard,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like four hours a week. If you
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  Speaker 1: miss one week, you're like, wow, just four hours until
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  Speaker 1: I can start watching next week. Well, you should be
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  Speaker 1: honest to do. I haven't. I haven't been locked. Oh
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  Speaker 1: I thought that you you caught up like after week
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  Speaker 1: two or something. So here's so, I missed the first
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  Speaker 1: two episodes, so I caught up on those, and then
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  Speaker 1: I've just been bad every since, like we've been traveling,
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  Speaker 1: so we haven't. I have not caught up so I
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  Speaker 1: could talk. I mean, I've seen the first two episodes,
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  Speaker 1: but that's about it, all right, all right, that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: So but you you've been keeping up with your friend Blake.
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  Speaker 1: You and Blake, you're pretty close right, Uh yeah, Um,
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's obviously sort of respected his space and
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  Speaker 1: privacy and all of this. So I have not talked
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  Speaker 1: to him in all that's been down. Um, just reach out,
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  Speaker 1: let him know I was there if you needed me
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  Speaker 1: as a friend, and I just we haven't really talked
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  Speaker 1: about anything. It seems to be subsiding for him, to
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  Speaker 1: be honest. It was a bad week or two and
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  Speaker 1: now I think people are onto other dramas, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not really worried for him anymore. Whoever, you know, whoever
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  Speaker 1: creates the drama or every you know, people typically um
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  Speaker 1: in this world move on and it's sort of like
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: what's you know, what's hot or what buzzworthy? Now you now?
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  Speaker 1: I remember last time I talked to you and Cassie
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast, you were talking about hoping that Calin
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  Speaker 1: came back from Paradise with somebody so that you guys
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  Speaker 1: could double date and she no longer had to be
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  Speaker 1: like the third or fifth wheel. Um, how do you
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: feel about this relationship that we kind of saw fizzle
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: towards the end of the episode last night? Like last night,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: just to inform you, Dean pulled Caylin aside after the
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  Speaker 1: rose ceremony on her birthday to seem to have a
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  Speaker 1: conversation that wasn't not going to be one that made
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  Speaker 1: Calin happy. So, how do you feel like is Dean
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  Speaker 1: allowed to be in your crew? Or are you still hesitant? Oh? Um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I haven't. Um, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: really seen or talked to Klin much lately either. I
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  Speaker 1: just think Test and I've sort of just been, well,
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  Speaker 1: at least me, I've just sort of been keeping to
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  Speaker 1: myself and start of staying out of all of this. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's just sort of an awkward and not a winnable
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  Speaker 1: situation and not a position that I really want to
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  Speaker 1: put myself to him, So I sort of just stay
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  Speaker 1: out of all of it and just sort of keep
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: focusing on on what really matters. And that's just sort
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  Speaker 1: of me in cast, you know. Yeah, it definitely gets
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  Speaker 1: to be a weird phase where you've experienced it now
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  Speaker 1: you're kind of watching friends go through it, and you
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  Speaker 1: don't really especially in our position where you're watching it
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  Speaker 1: as an educated viewer, but you're also a friend, and
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: it's so hard to make comments on what's unfolding in paradise, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's and it's not like, you know, the one comment
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  Speaker 1: that I'll make on it is just like I wish
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  Speaker 1: the best for both of them, um. And I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: more Klin Blake situation because I think and I think
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  Speaker 1: they both will admit like they made mistakes in this
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't build out this and that's like the
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  Speaker 1: best way for each other either. I think it is
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  Speaker 1: just for more um, caught up in the moment, trying
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  Speaker 1: to like take care and protect themselves. UM. But I
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  Speaker 1: hope that you know, after all of this, they can
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  Speaker 1: sort of move forward at least together to agree to disagree, um,
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  Speaker 1: and they can support each other as human beings and
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  Speaker 1: as friends. UM. And now I think that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: the best thing for for everyone in the situation. That's
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  Speaker 1: another point. It's not like other relationships where they can
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  Speaker 1: break and then you can never see them again. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you can ignore them forever. In are now were bachelor family.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna end up seeing each other. They're going to
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  Speaker 1: be at the same events. You kind of have to
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  Speaker 1: make peace. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know how it is,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to run into each other, They're gonna hear
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  Speaker 1: about each other. You can't um sort of, you can't
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  Speaker 1: have that clean break um in the situation, right, So
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  Speaker 1: you gotta tell me um on, like we moved beyond
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor right now, what is the story behind the
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: silver hair that made a very brief appearance in your
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: life a couple of weeks ago. So for me, I
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  Speaker 1: always joked with casts just because she's like, obviously southern
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  Speaker 1: California blonde. I was like, I want to have my
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  Speaker 1: Southern California moment, and I was like, I might as well, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, experiment and see how it looks. So I
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  Speaker 1: always like joked that I was gonna go plant them,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: and she'd always be like, no, no, no, don't do it.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Don't do it, just like I like your hair. So
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, Well, she went off to Wisconsin
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: for a residency week um for school. It was like
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: her big chesting week. So I was all by myself
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: in l A. I mean, obviously I know what friends
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: and stuff, but I wasn't as busy as usual. So
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: while she was gone, I was like, you know what, screw,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down my hair and see how it looks.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: It actually looks really and actually looked really good. Um,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: the picture that got out because I wasn't planning on
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: like posting a picture right away. UM picture that I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: got out with like right after the treatment. So it
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: looked like gray and silver, but it actually settled into
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: like a blonde that actually looked pretty good. Um in
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: my opinion and even admitted to But UM, I sort
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: of sort of sort of sort of surprising. And then UM,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I had some things coming up for my schedule that
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to be the southern California guys, so
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I just changed it back. But it will, I will say,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: if it will be back, Okay, I get it now.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't supposed to be silver, right, it was
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: supposed to be platinum. It was, Yeah, So it was treated.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: It was treated in a way that made it so
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: it didn't become like um brassyn't making orange. So it
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: was treated in a way that it actually went platinum,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: and it just made it look silver in that picture.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: So this wasn't like you went to CVS and you
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: picked up a bottle, you went and got it done.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Oh no. I mean my whole thing is if you're
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: gonna do something, it might as well do it right
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and go all out. So I actually went to Yeah,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I went and got the whole treatment and treated myself.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I guess two platinum hair, right you um, you get
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: you got it out of your system. You wanted to
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: do what you saw it, you like it, and you're
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: going to do it again. Yeah. Yeah. I think I
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: think it was like my rebellion, Like we all have
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: those rebellion laws, and I think it's like it's like
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: a rebellious thing to do. And then I start a
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: picture to Cass and she's like mad for like two seconds,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and then she said I liked to get it, So
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: you know, I think we sort of had our little
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: you know, I had my fun while she's gone. That
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: is like the easiest thing to change back though. Hair
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: is a good experimental thing. When I got dumped once,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I got my belly button piers as a as like,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: oh he thinks that I'm so innocent. I'm going to
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: go get my belly button piers. That was my move,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: so you know, that's a little bit more permanent. But
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I still love my belly button ring and I actually
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: love that it symbolized the rebellious omen for me. Um.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you so colton. Um. You're talking about how Cassie
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: got mad at you when you made that moment, that
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: moment of rebellion. What are those little things in your
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: relationship that you tease each other about that sometimes gets
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: on your nerves but in like a fun, playful way.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one. Um, all right. So she
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: has this thing where she really likes salt and she
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: likes to add salt to her food. Actually carries in
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: her purse. She carries like salt packets to add like
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: at dinner, Like she'll carry their assault grinder in her
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: purse where she actually has like the pinks and leon
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: fault that she pulls out in the restaurant. It's like
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: just in kids, you don't how talt there? I don't.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like her thing, so I like let
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: her do it, but like it's a playful back and forth.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm like really, um, and I'm trying to think
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: of like her most recent one for me other than
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the hair, because I mean I think we playfully, she
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: playfully like banters with me all the time. Um. She
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: says that I have like a business voice, And I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: think it's so funny because we were talking to like
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Caitlyn and Jason about this too, because I think Jason
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: is the same way as me. It's like, if you
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: want to call this is a little more professional, a
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: little more like businesses. You change the tone of your voice,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and I think that drives hern ups when I do that,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and I think we're all guilty of it to a
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: certain degree. Everybody does that. Everybody has that. I have.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: My podcast is voice versus my business call voice versus
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: my I'm talking to Jared voice, which is completely mumbly
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and I don't enunciate anything versus on the podcast where
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I really try to speak my words. Yeah, different tones.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: That's why we're all guilty of it. Yeah, Okay, So
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you made a comment about pilots making the Best Bachelor?
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Does that mean that you are in support of pilot
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Peter being the next Bachelor? Um? I mean that obviously.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: That just didn't want to give you the typical media
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: train to answer that decision is a way above my
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: pay grade, something that I am no longer like affiliator
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: associated with to make that call and make that we
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: so like, can you missed out for me? Um? I
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: think I haven't met Peter um, you know, and from
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: what I've seen, he seems she seems like a good dude.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: And I know you're trying to get away from talking
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: about the Bachelor. I totally understand that sometimes it's annoying
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: that Pete. You know, it seems like that's the only
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: thing people ever want to talk to you about. But
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I have one more Bachelor related question before I do
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: want to talk to you about something I'm very very
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: curious about. UM, have you reached out to handa first
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: first Bachelor oriented question? Have you reached out to Hannah
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: at all since the whole judge situation? UM, I haven't, UM, well,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I personally, I haven't um respected her space and privacy.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I commented on one of her I commented on one
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: of her posts and just said, I'm proud of the
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: way that she's handled things. UM. It's not easy going
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: through it. She's gone through probably in the public eye, UM,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: and I can feel very lonely at times. Two. But
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you know, I hope that she just continues to make
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the best decisions for her whatever that is. Hopefully dancing
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: with the Starts is a great distry action for her,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: UM and something that she enjoys and has fun doing. UM.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: You know, she's I feel like that could probably make
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: for a good, um, good distraction and a good way
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: for pretty sort of start picking up the pieces and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: moving on. Yeah, I think it's gonna be really good
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: for her emotional her like emotional getting over that you
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: know hurdle. Um. And then what I am super curious
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: about is you losing your v card, your veginity a
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: movement that you're doing with the Morning Star Farms. I
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: have always wanted to lose my viginity. I want I
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: want so bad to like just try a month where
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I don't eat any meat, and you have gone the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: past month without eating any meat, tell me how it's going.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I have. Um, So it was super this was this
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: is like super fun for me because, um, you know
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: when we first when I first went meatless, um, I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: thought like it was going to be a struggle. And
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I think that's the best part about it was with
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Morning Star Farms in particular, is they have such a
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: variety of foods that um sort of give you that
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: that vegan option, that meatless option, And I think it
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: helps stay on track because I think the biggest thing
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: is if you're going to meatless, you sort of you
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: don't want to keep getting the same thing, or feel
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: like all you're doing is eating you know, um lettuce
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: or you know, you can still have fun, you can
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: still flavor. And I think with their spicy Black Beam burger,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: UM for chicken nuggets, their sausage patties in the morning,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: their sausage linked for breakfast, they just have like a
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: portfolio that's so diverse that sort of sets you up
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: with success. So actually, I think you definitely need to
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: try it for a month. I think you can do it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Are you feeling better? Do you feel a difference in
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: your body? Yeah? Well I was. I was sort of concerned,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: like my only hesitation all of this UM. I was
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a little nervous, like, hey, this is gonna be feeling
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: like I'm a big dude and I'm used to eating
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: meat from my sports background and because I thought I
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: thought that was the only way you can get protein.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Well I was wrong. Obviously there's plant based protein out there,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: And for me, my digestive system felt so much better
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: after like the first two weeks. Right away already I
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: noticed the difference UM, and I wasn't eating as much
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: help sort of with my UM weight management goals that
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I had in my other fitness goals. All right, I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: definitely want to try those chicken nuggets. Once you said that,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right and going to the grocery store.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: The chicken nuggets and the spicy black bean burger are
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: my favorite. All right, we'll check it out. Well, thank
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: you Colman for joining us, and now go enjoy your
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: beautiful girlfriend in Nashville. Thank you so much. Yeah, we're
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: gonna have so much fun today. We're just gonna go
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: explore the city. If they're both of our first time
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: here together, so we're really looking forward to explore the
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. Okay, go enjoy goals into some country
• 25:58
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• 26:10
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• 30:18
  Speaker 1: All right, Mark Torrey, I know you watched that episode
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: last night? Week or what an episode? I guess we
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: love tonight. Yeah, I mean there are two hours each
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: night we are we get so much content. I actually
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: didn't watch our screener for tonight's episode because I didn't
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: want to get confused, you know, like you get it's
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: all muddied. So what do you want to talk about? First?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: There's a we can go through the couples. I think
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: let's just go through the couples. There's Clay Nicole, which
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: seemed to be pretty They seem to be going strong
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: right now. She called him his boyfriend or she called
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: him her boyfriend. Yeah, it seems like they had some
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: sexy time in the boom Boom room too, based on
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: you know, describe describer words. Yeah, here, there's a c
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: in that room, so that we're in a lot of
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the realms. You're right there, there is. I think it's
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: an incentive to get people to go to the boom
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Bom room and make drama over it. Is that the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: actual name of the room or is that us have
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: nicknamed it as I don't know. I mean it's rolled
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: over into the official name of it because now the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: producers will refer to it as the Boom Boom Room.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Is there like a sign on the door? No, I
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: love that little chalkboard sign the Boom Room. That would
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: be cute. Maybe there is now. I haven't seen that
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: room in a couple of years. But Clay and Nicole
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: seemed to be doing well. But there, um, there's something
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: happens tonight because Clay sees his ex Angela, and I
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: think he said something along the lines of those feelings.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: You know, they still linger miss that that's in the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: scenes for the next next episode that will be tonight
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: because Angela Nicole, Okay, I know they're very cute. I
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: don't I'm not really worried. I think that they're going
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: to have a conversation because I think there's some there's
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: some hostility in the air. When we were at when
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: we were at Chris and Crystal's wedding, Angela was a
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: bridesmaid and she went down strutting her stuff. She was
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: like clicking her heels as she walked by. Clay and
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I was like cracking up. I was like, yes, makeup done.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: You ex eat your heart out. You know. She came
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: to play. So we'll see. There was a lot of
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: other Uh, there's some things that I can't say. We'll
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: see how it plays out on the wedding episode. The
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: drama in tonight's wedding episode is going to revolve around
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Derek and JPJ. Tasia isn't a bit of a love
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: triangle between them right now? She what she told me
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: at the wedding, which was literally twenty four hours after
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the rose ceremony that we saw last night, doesn't It
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem to like line up with what we're seeing
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: on the show. It seems like a lot happens in
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the twenty four hours between the rose ceremony and the wedding.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: With Tasia, I think she's huh, I don't know. I
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think she she likes the idea of
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: one thing, but then like her heart's pulling her in
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: another direction. So we'll we'll see about that. That's all
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I can say. I can't like spoil anything. Yeah, without
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: spoiler spoilers, let's just stay on this episode. And what
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: did you think when you heard her expressing interest in Derek.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Were you excited where you like that's a better fit
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: than JPJ. I think it makes a lot of sense.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I can see Derek really being into Tasia. Um. JPJ
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: was so into her last week. I just thought, based
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: on what we saw that they were just going to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: be a couple, right. Why she must have not fell
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: all in because she was like, you can go you
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: know the other girls. And I felt it was so
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: cute when he was devastated by that. I thought it
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: was kind of adorable. Wait, I just what did you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: think of his comment when he says Tasha looks like
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Beyonce but with bigger eyes. The bigger eyes thing. I
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: don't understand that compliment. Yeahs like dunning, don't get me wrong,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, out of all the things in the
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: world to say maybe just you look like Beyonce and
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: leave it as that. I think that he thinks that
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: it was a compliment by saying bigger eyes. Classic guy.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: It's just like they say one too many words. You know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: big guys are like, you know, like Kim Kardashian has
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: big eyes. You know, it's not a bad thing. It's
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: not a bad thing. It's just sometimes you can just
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: say you look stunning and just leave it at that.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: You know, he is all over the place. He is
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the he was made for Bachelor in Paradise. He's so
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: much fun to watch. He seems like he has a
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: really good heart. He means so well. The way that
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: he words things is just like unreal, unreal. I don't
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know how he grew in Minnesota, Montana, like Maryland.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: It just makes no sense. Seems like a surfer bro. Yeah,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I've never heard someone talk like that before. But it's like,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: there's nothing more you'd want in this world than j
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: p J just speaking whatever freely is on his mind.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Oh totally. If I was in Paradise, I remember when
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I was at the wedding, everybody was talking about how
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: like JPJ was the person that they would go to
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: when they needed to have a heart to heart or
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: they need comfort. And now watching the season, I'm like, oh,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: he would definitely be the guy that you go to
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: it for that because it seems like he'd always be
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: like yeah, oh, I totally get it, I totally get it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I you know, he just would always be on your side,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Like I can't see him creating an argument exactly. Yeah,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: it's almost like he's so simple, he's created drama. Yeah,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: you're right, I agree. So he went on two dates
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: after Tasia said that she wanted him to go on
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: other dates. He went out with Haley, and he went
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: out with taj Wan. Tajwan came and went in one episode,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and she really created a storm. I think it was
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: like a moment of silent for Tajwan. That girl left
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: her heart on the beach. She was invested in him,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: she really liked him. People were comparing me to her,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: which was like kind of hilarious because she just could
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: not keep her cool, and I respect that so much.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Like air, your feelings are all your messiness. The one
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: thing that I was like a little bit weird watching
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Tajwan was that once she was like sobbing, I said,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: quote quote, she was more like screaming, and I didn't
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: see any water falling out of her eyes, and it
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: seemed as if she had like a half smile on
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: all the time. Am I wrong? I actually completely agreed,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: But I didn't think the heat added so much more
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: stress on her that she just couldn't gather herself from
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the moment she stepped on the beach. So it's like tears,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Like tears in her eyes might have just been a
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: little bit too much for her. She's like, I'm sweating
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: on every part of my body right now. Is it
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: really that hot down there, Ashley? It's insane, It is
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: so so hot. I actually can't believe how good the
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: cast looks most of the time. Amazing. They look fresh
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: and they don't look sweaty. But it's unbearable. And I
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: did it as a year old, but I don't think
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I could do it at thirty one. I don't know
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: my tolerance for the environment that. I mean, it's a
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: lot harder for me to live in that environment now.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: And it's hard to enter into any kind of friend group,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: even if you're like in l A and somebody's like
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: come out with some friends and you have to go
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: be in that group and find a place and I
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: feel accepted. That's a lot of pressure. Yes, So she's
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: going in a social circle, wah, Yeah, integrating yourself in
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: any social environment, especially one that never ends. Like when
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I mean it never ends, I mean like you go
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to sleep with them, you wake up and have breakfast
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: with them. Right, It's hard, and honestly, really felt for
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: her until the Hailey and JP json Okay, yeah, there's
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of actually to touch on that the pigeon
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: versus the seagull. What does that mean? What is she
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: trying to say Ashley? She obviously was just trying to
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: be like, look, you're below us. Right. If she was
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: trying to say you're below us, she could be like
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: where swans where you know peacocks, and you are a pigeon.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: But to say that we're seagulls and you're a you're
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: a pigeon didn't make so much sense because Haley was right,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: seagulls really are the pigeons of the ocean. She was
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: trying to have her like notebook moment where you're like,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I'm a bird if you're a bird. I think that's
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: what she was thinking. I think like, oh, we're just birds.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: But then she picked the two kind of grimy birds
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: like I'm like, I don't know if I'd rather be
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: a pigeon or a seagull, which one would you rather be?
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I think I'd rather be a seagull because I like
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: being by the beach, like I'd like to swoop in
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: and stuff. I'm not trying to like walk around, I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: mean swooping like you know, dive in, you know, grab
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: some food in the ocean, not so much, you know,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: walk around Central Park and like pick out crumbs. It's
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: just so funny because they really essentially are the same bird,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: because seagulls do on the beach, Like I'm at the
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: beach a lot, and the next thing, you know, if
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I leave my food unattended, it's getting swarmed by a
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: flock of seagulls. And then when you're in Central Park,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: you're just meeting a ton of pigeons eating and all
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: your food is I don't get it, Tajuan, can you
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: let us know? Well, I just can't believe, like she's gone.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: You know, she gave us some good stuff and now
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: she's gone. And Jen Saviana was also gone, And which
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: is so funny because just listening to a lot of
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: the guys a Bachelor Nation, guys love Jen Saviano. Obviously
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: she's beautiful, she's got that a. She's very alluring. You know,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: she's kind of mysterious. Right, no one in Paradise picked
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: her up. I think it's just again she entered at
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: a rough time. Even Dean at one point was like
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: she has it like she's stunning. I think she's the
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: He said something very extravagant about her. Ben I mean
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Ben Dean has always talked about Jen, even when we
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: first That's so funny. When we when we first met him,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: he was like, have you ever met Jen Saviano? And
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, you've been like thinking, he's been
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: thinking about her for a couple of years. But he
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: and I loved how faithful he was to Kaitlin. I
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: think that they are adorable, despite the fact that about
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: to sea. We're about to sea go down, Actually you can.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I want to know your thoughts because I think Chris
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: actually made a mistake by picking Katie. Oh I don't, Oh,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: don't tell me. Why are you kidding? I love Chris
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: and Katie so much. She loves him. She doesn't want
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: to say, but she so loves him. But I think
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: she's so young that I borderline. Is this infactuation or
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: is this is she Yeah, she's twenty seven. I think
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Jen's's just solid. She was like here, here, I am,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: take me if you have me, no games, And Katie's
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: like other people, which I get it. We were like
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: every girl deflects to protect themselves at a certain point
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: in the relationship, but I think that Jen might have
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: been a more solid pick. I don't know. I feel
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: the chemistry between Chris and Katie way more. I think
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Jen would have been like a nice person for christ
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: who have dated for a couple of weeks, but that's
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: like the kind of dating that may like go three
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: or four days in real life and then fizzle out
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and be like, you know, we don't have it. But
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I think that he and Katie have it. I think
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: so differently. That's so crazy, and you know, there's two
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: different point of views, and I like having them both
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: on here. Something I was super confused about was that
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: JPJ picked Haley in the row ceremony. But I think
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: he showed more interest and what did you think? I
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: think she took more of his energy then Haley. Haley
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: and him, I think you could definitely see our infactuation,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: like him putting the sunscreen specifically on her bottom, like
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: literally being Lord help me, God help me, My mom's
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: going to kill me, Like he just could not keep
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: his hands off of Haley. I think with Tajuan they
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: had more of a eccentric personalities separately, so together they
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: were able to appreciate each other. Okay, in appreciation, they
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: had appreciation, But I want to know, do you think
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: if JPJ got called first with the rose, would he
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: have given it to taste? That is what makes me think.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Almost every week there's some situation where it's like it
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: really comes down to who gets the gross giver first.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I definitely I do. I don't know. His
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: ego may have not let him pick Tasia because he
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: knew that, like he liked her more than she likes him.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think JPJ has an ego, no ego that
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: so you don't think it would allow I mean, like
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: a human, you know, a human desire to be like,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go after somebody who I know
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: isn't as into me. I'm like the last person because
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I was like Jared's like, I don't really know. I
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: think this is more of a friendship. I was like Jared, Jared,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: well you accept this ross like every week. But you know,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: sometimes intuition is very accurate. I know. I just think
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: that I'll be interesting interested to see j p J
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: and Haley pan out because I might need to look
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: this up right now. But how old is Haley? Haley
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: is six and JPJ is yeah, so it's I just
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: think that, and she we even saw the Cocktail Hour.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: She doesn't really like jp j's whole package. Like she's like,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: don't call me bro, don't call me dude, and like
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: got really defensive about it, and You're like, you're already
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: trying to change who he is just by his language.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: When don't you get that, Like you never want a
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: guy to call you dude? I knew that when Jared
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: and I were just friends. He caught me like man
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: and dude a couple of times. I was like, can
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: you not that? You know, let's get market on this mark.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: If a guy calls a girl a bro, but it's
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: clearly on Bachelor in Paradise, so he's looking for the one.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Should she be at that defensive about it? Depends on
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the does depend on the guy, But I don't love it.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I do think it is a friend zone method. He's
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: not thinking you as the future, your mother of his children.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: If he's calling you dude and bro is worse? Yeah.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I think he said bro and then man. Yeah, she
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: goes man, that's even worse. JPJ. I just think it's
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: part of his dialogue. I think he would even call
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: his wife dude. I've said dude to my wife before,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: but it's not like you're a dude, it's like dude,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: like this, yeah, can you believe? Like you know, it's
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: not referring to her as a dude. It's like, Wow,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: how does she respond? She doesn't love it? She doesn't
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: love it? But bro is weird? I think, yeah, bro, yeah,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Well anyway, I don't feel the chemistry beyond maybe like
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: physical attraction between Haley and JPJ. I think like that's
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: like I don't think that he's like brooding enough for her.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: She says she wants goofy, but I think she actually
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: wants like a lot of she wants like stand up. Man.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Do you think she would be on the beach if
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: her sister wasn't in love right now? I think that
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Emily would be there with her she was in a relationship.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I think it's hard. I think it's hard to have
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: a sibling or a really close friend in a relationship
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: that takes up all of their time and energy and love,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: and then to be single. It's just like they live
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: a different lifestyle than you, and all your life you
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: live the same lifestyle and all of a sudden it's
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: so different. So do you know what I hate most
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: what when the girls get portrayed as catty because we're
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: already kind of scene like that in society that girls
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: just get catty over guys. And then Tajwan she came
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: out swinging. She was like, it's so good to have
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: you here, Haley, just kidding. I was like, can I
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: spend her wine? It was just a passing thought though,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: but we like kind of took it as a joke.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, my eyes were like, really it.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I can't. Is she
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: gonna get craped for it? Or people are just gonna
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: think it's funny because you can swing it both ways.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Half the people are going to say, is this funny?
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: And then half people are gonna be like, wow, that's
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: really intense, and come on now, listen. I'm sarcastic and
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I know that it goes both ways, but you just
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: don't say that to someone, you know. I'm kind of
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: like a girl, let's get it together. This guy is
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: not worth you being portrayed as a caddy girl. Yeah,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: or maybe he was to her. I don't know. Do
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: you think that her feelings were totally honest or do
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: you think that she was just exhausted hot found a
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: guy that she was attracted to. I think once you
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: find the person that you're attracted to, there you just
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: want it to be and you don't. You're like, I
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: don't want to look any further because it's a competition
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: and you need roses. You're like, I like this person,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay with this person. Um. But I think
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of people at this point in the competition,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: if they're not in a relationship, they're just looking for
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: a way to get a rose, the way that we
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: see Christina and Blake giving each other roses. But I
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: actually didn't hate that move. I didn't hate the Chris.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Christina has been a little bit
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: sly and a villainous this season. She's like laid all
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: her cards on the table. Yes, but at least I
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: think in this case, Blake didn't really like Caitlin and
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: it may have been a better move for him to
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: just give the rose back to Christina and not lead
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Caitlin on anymore. Okay, but again, Mark, you can chime
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: in on this. If a guy promises a rose to
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: the problem to another girl who says, hey, listen, if
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: you're not totally invested in her, let like let her
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: know you shouldn't give her the rose. And then he
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: goes back to Caitlin and says, hey, actually, I'm second
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: guessing I don't want to give you the rose. But
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: she's like, you promised it to me. Yeah, he spoke
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: way too soon. Oh Mark, what No, I just I
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: feel in that situation he's not really a percent on
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: any of these girls. He shouldn't have said, but he
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: kind of said, I'm a hunter. I'm like he said,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I'm a hundred percent giving you my rose right now,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: pretty easily sweat. Five minutes later he was like, I'm
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: a hundred percent not giving you my rose anymore. But
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: then I'm just like he could But he could have
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: easily said, Caitlin, Christina wants me to give the rose
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: to her as a friendship rose. Because here's the truth.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think I see us going further. I'm going
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: to get since I promise this to you, I'm going
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: to give you this rose, Caitlin, to you as a
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: friendship rose so you can go and find love. Couldn't
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: he have done the same situation to Caitlin who he
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: promised the rose too instead of Christina. Yeah, absolutely he
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: could have. Wouldn't have been more stand up or do
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: you think that would have made it a little bit
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: more Now he's just like slinging all these girls around.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's so convoluted over here that I
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: think that Caitlin, I mean, Christina is just not is
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: just not very likable right now, So it's hard for
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: us to root for her to go further on. Also,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I would like her to name one person she's interested
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: in meeting. I think she just wants to stick around
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: and keeps during the pot I don't think she's interested
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: in seeing anybody come down those steps. I agree with
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: you too, there, I agree with you. So I don't.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm really really not a fan of Christina.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I think she just went in with the intention she
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: was going to be the villain of the season. She
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: was like, I am going to revel feathers and I'm
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: going to get some screen time and I'm just gonna
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: do what I can to like make myself a character.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: And I think she was like she planned on being
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: the absolute opposite she was the first time around, where
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: she was like very vulnerable and emotional and open. That
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: one really makes me upset. Well, you know what's so
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: interesting is that she and Dean have been there together
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: and they have not had any moments together and they
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: had such a tumultuous relationship. Because that's getting sucked intolf
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: this whole Kalin situation. Okay, so I think this is
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: something we really have to dissect. So basically, they have
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: a conversation that he doesn't think he's going to be
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: a good boyfriend to her in the real world, that
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: she doesn't fit into his drive across America and a
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: van lifestyle that he's attempting to do for a matter
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: of months, you know, maybe more than months. And he's
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: kind of just saying to her pretty honestly, this is
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: a paradise thing, and she very legitimately is like, then
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: why are you here? What I think? I mean? Even
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: he didn't really give her answers, Like he didn't even
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: really say he was like, I enjoy spending time with you,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: but I suck at dating. I mean, he plugged the podcast.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Did you guys all love that? I was like, very
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: just plugged your podcast. It's so good. But he said
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: it's a challenging point of me to see us settling down,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: which I'm okay with. I'm not okay with all of
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: his actions after this conversation, because he really didn't say like, yes,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: you're right, no you're wrong. He was just kind of like,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: here or here's how I'm feeling, and I'm gonna make
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: it kind of vague and then see how you respond.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: I think the other really hard part of the conversation
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: was when he said, um, I I'm kind of looking
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: for an exception, like somebody here that is going to
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: make me want to drop the lifestyle I intend on living,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: or like somebody that I can see fitting into that lifestyle.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: And he basically was like, I don't know if I
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: see you being that exception, Am I am I misinterpreting
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: this because he even said like, I'm not the kind
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: of guy who wants to like go to dinner dinner
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: parties and talk about I feel We talked to Dean
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: about this on his podcast this week, and I think
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what he was saying, but the way he
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: presented it to us made it seem almost a little
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: bit more of romantic notion. Well in my mind, in
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: my mind, in the sense of that he's saying he's
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: not casting a role in his life. He's not saying
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for my wife. I just need to find
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: the one, But I'm on the lookout for a wife
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: who's gonna be my wife. Maybe it's you. Maybe it's you.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: He's saying, I don't want a wife. I'm not going
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: to have a wife. I'm perfectly happy for the rest
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: of my life. But if I find someone and I
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: end up getting married, I know that person was so
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: amazing that she blew out every preconception I had about
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: how I want to live my future. Okay, but it's
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: a selfish way to date. Yeah, that's kind of like.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: If you want to date like that, you have to
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: find a girl who wants to live that exact same
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: life and a girl who's saying that she wants to
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: but really truly wants to. Because Dean's face and personality
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: can make almost any girl say like, yes, that is
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: the kind of life I want to you. It's true,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: it is true. I just think that it's like his
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: actions with bringing her birthday kick, bringing her champagne, singing
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: happy Birthday, telling her she looks beautiful, like that explains
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: or his actions talk so much more than his words.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: So she's kind of hung up on his words, being like,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: he really didn't make me feel that much better. But then,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, at all these grand gestures he's doing
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: for me. After that conversation where I can see where
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: he where his head is at right now. Well, they
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: also had that conversation where they talked about how Dean
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: makes any girl feel special. Dean doesn't just make girls
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: feel special. Dean can make anybody feel special. Yeah. I
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: feel like his superpower in life and this is a
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: this is amazing superpower is that he can make anyone
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: just feel good and happy, Like all he has to
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: do is like put his arm around you and smile
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: and everything is better. My analysis of Dean is he
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: can make anyone feel good and special except himself. Oh
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: that's he doesn't make any sense. He doesn't even acknowledge
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: that that's a superpower. I was like, Dean, your super
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: power is making people happy, and I don't think he
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: sees that. I'm like kind of speechless after that statement.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: That's really sad. Well it's sad but true. But I
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: and I get it from the women's perspective that when
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: he gives you that kind of attention. He looks at
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: you with those eyes. You're just like, I'm all in
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: and he's just he just never seems to be you. Guys. Yeah,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: you don't even know my bride'smaid's message. I have a
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: group message with my bride'smaids, and for the past two
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: weeks it's been blowing up with comments about Dean. They're obsessed,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: they are all in love, and Dean loves them all
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: like the one that he walked My friend Courtney, who
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: he walked down the aisle with, she's like, she's saying
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: things I really can't put out there on air. She's
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: married and she's just like coming up. I can't say it,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: but they're inappropriate and hilarious for a married woman to
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: be saying this. Courtney is married, but she's like, my
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: husband's all in on this. It's just really funny, Like
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: basically like she's like, my husband is down for a
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: three set, yes, but the super with superpowers comes wisdom
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: and he's not using any wisdom in this. You can't
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: get into v I P. You can't pursue this girl
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: who's obviously head over heels for you and continue continue
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: to selfishly accept her love knowing in your head this
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: is going to hit a wall. Well, I think that's
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: what he thinks he's doing right now. So he made
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: the same mistake that he did back in Bachelor in
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Paradise for where he treated one of the girls to
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: a birthday celebration and she thought he really cared about her,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, he flips the switch
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: and he thinks right now that what he's doing and
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: maybe it is. Maybe he's right that what he's doing
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: by breaking up with her is the best thing that
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: he can do for her emotionally, that's true. But if
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: that is what you think is right, then you shouldn't
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: be giving them a birthday cakes. I think. I think
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: that's where he that's where he loses himself every time
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: he needs to kind of learn not to be super
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: nice to somebody, because it does, even though it's just
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: like his nature, it comes across as leading on. Like
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: when I first watch it, my initial reaction is I'm
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: so mad at him that he's doing this to Kalen.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know what's going to happen, but
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: predicting from his past b I P experiences, we can
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: maybe see a breakup coming and initially gets so upset
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: about that, being just classic Dean, But then I'm like,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: you are looking out for her best interest by ending it,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: so then therefore I have to support you. Do you
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: get what I'm saying? So in some weird way, I
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: actually I think Dean looks his best when he's breaking
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: up with these girls, right because he's doing what is right.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: He's doing what is right because he's not ready for
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: a real relationship or like the lifestyle he leads is
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: not conducive for a relationship or at least a relationship
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: with somebody who wants to live the lifestyle that Kaylin does,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: which is really just a normal lifestyle, not a backup
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: on um. So we'll see how this unfolds. We didn't
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: really get to see the full conversation, should we just
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: got to see her like going into is this really happening?
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Is this really happened? To your freaking kidding men? And
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: literally everyone just stops and looks over the edge as
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: they're walking down. Yeah. Oh, but I will say there
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: was one comment that was made. It was like in
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: a teaser, and I think Demi sort of alluded to
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: it as well. They were like Dean's true colors. And
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it because that like alludes like Dean
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: not being a good guy. Not Dean, just like not
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: knowing what to do in situations like this, you know
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: what I mean. Like she's so fantastic. He's just like
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: the warmest, one, most wonderful person. You're always going to
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: want to be around him. He's just you know, he
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: sucks at dating. That doesn't mean that like he truly
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: does I have a I mean, this is a little
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: segway question into something different. Do you think it's a
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: little bit of a devil standard that Christian and Demi
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: are able to stay on the island even though that
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: she's not a bachelor person, Because if anybody had an
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: ex that they were still in love with, they would
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: have to walk away to go be with the X there.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: It's just it's it's a very complicated scenario. And I
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: want to give Nick credit for his point of view
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: because it did make me see both sides. I think
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: as a cast member, I was a little bit wearied
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: last week when I was like, they're going to explore
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: this in Paradise, But I don't know that this would
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: fly in another you know, another kind of relationship, So
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: it's weird that they're going to be able to stay.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: It just seems like you're breaking the Bachelor in Paradise rules.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: And then then Nick said that we should just screw
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: thinking about the rules, because, as Chris Harrison always says,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: there are no rules, and in this case, should we
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: break this quote unquote rule for the benefit of you know,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: for the society's benefit. And seeing a relationship like this
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: bloom on an ABC National TV like, should like, should
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: we just push this aside right now and forget about
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: the rules and just celebrate this relationship. And now I
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: see both sides. I can see why you'd be frustrated
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: in them being allowed to to explore the relationship on
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Paradise when it's not the norm. But then I also
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: see the side of it just like maybe it's just
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: really culturally beneficial and we should just go along with
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: it and that's fine. Wow, you actually really just changed
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: my perspective on that. Well, thank you, But he really did,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: you know, he really did, because Etfort because I was
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: definitely on like the I'm not sure if this is
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: fair side, but you know, hey, that's I mean, that's true.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: How are we going to grow. I I agree, Like
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I said, I would literally changed my perspective on all that.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. Alright, guys, we have a couple of
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: great emails and one relationship that we have still yet
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: to speak upon. But first you gotta take a break.
• 1:01:48
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  Speaker 1: that we have not brought up is Mike in Sydney.
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  Speaker 1: Where have they been. Oh, there's another couple that we
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  Speaker 1: didn't bring up, you know why because they were nowhere
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: to be seen either during this episode, and that was
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  Speaker 1: Hannah Ge and Dylan. I think that Yeah, handed Ge
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: and Dylan are now like on the okay, we're an
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: exclusive couple. Um, we're just in cruise mode. So we
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: didn't see them at all totally, but we're just we're
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: supposed to assume that they're like happy in love and
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: making out everywhere. But then Sydney and Mike, we don't
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: have that feeling that they're you know, one solid because
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: we've never we haven't seen very many serious conversations between
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: between the two of them. I will even really remember
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: them kissing truly. All we've seen is them doing cartwheels
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: and handstands on the beach. That's what we get and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: it's always in the opening credits. It's eve weird. It
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: is kind of weird. I want to know more. I
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: would love to know more. Do you think do you
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: think they're keeping it quiet because he could potentially be
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor? Or do you think that this puts them
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: out of the running because we're not attached to his story? Well?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: I think I think if they wanted to be the Bachelor,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: we should be bonding to him in um in some fashion.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: I can totally understand them not wanting like us to
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: really feel him in Sydney because we're not gonna want
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: to feel too attached to their love story if he's
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: going to go on to be the Bachelor. But um,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: I think that we need to see like more moments
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: of Mike chatting with other contestants or or just them
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: chatting about fun stuff, maybe not serious stuff, more personality. Yeah,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: it's so weird that, like, somebody who's such a fan
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: favorite has gotten so little screen time Paradise. But I
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: definitely see your theory about the lack of screen time
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: being because they just want to skip over the fact
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: that he was even in Paradise and goes straight to
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: him being the Bachelor. Okay, and then one last question
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: for you. Was it crazy as they made it seem
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: that JPJ ate the food on the date? No, that
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: was that was so ridiculous. I think most of us
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: do end up picking or eating at the food. They
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: just don't ever show it. And again, they never say
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: you don't eat the food. They've literally never said don't
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: eat the food. It's just that, yeah, it's cold, you're talking,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: and they tell you you you may not want to
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: eat it because then you may be on camera chewing
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: and like nobody looks their most attractive chewing. But nobody's
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: e were like it's not edible or like you're it's
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: gross or you're not gonna want it. So that food
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: wasn't left out there for a couple hours before they
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: got there, so it was perfectly fine for him to
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: eat that. I'm pretty sure that they bring it out
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: to you when you sit down. I don't know that
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: it's sitting there when you get there. And why can't
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: JPJ eat anything without throwing up? It's really weird. He
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: says he has a very weak stomach, and it's apparent.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you didn't have to tell us that
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: once or twice. We can see it. And I know
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: these dates are long, and I know that we only
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: get to see like three minutes of a three hour date,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: but it's pretty weird that he legitimately throws up right away,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: like he hits his stomach and then he regurgitates it.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: It's so true. It's hilarious to watch because and it's
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: funny because he's laughing through throwing up. Unless he's so
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: common for him, it must be very common. I thought
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: it was funny the first time. Now I'm kind of like,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Like he's just eating, sleeping and then
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: throwing up. I'm like, coron Olympius, what is going on?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Coron Olympia, that's what does that have to do? Because
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: she was always eating and napping. Um, yeah, you're right.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: She was always like not seen anywhere because she was
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: falling asleep or sleeping, and then um, she would always
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: be eating all the food. Oh. I I was a
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: whole proponent about eating the food too. I'm like, I'm
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: never going to be in a position in my life
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: will there be a plate of food in front of
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: me and I'm not going to eat it. I don't
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: care him on TV. It is it hard being in
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: that bathing suit. Do you just get to a point
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: where you're like, I don't care, fill me up with
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: alcohol and food or do you guys? Oh no, No.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: The only thing to do in Paradise besides talk is
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: to eat. And the food is so good there, so
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: it's like you don't want to stop. Yeah, it's totally
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: a freshman fifteen. But you're sweating so much I don't know,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: and your adrenaline is super high. Like my heart was
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: just racing NonStop because um I was either heartbroken or
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: it was so hot that I just feel like my
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: metabolism was in like just the highest zone it could
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: be in. So I just kept going. And what are
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: you guys allow to do? Are fun? You're never you're
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: not allowed to leave the beach unless you have a
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: date card. But do they offer you games? Do they
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: give you books? Like? What do you what do you
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: allow to bring? Or what do they provide for you?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: They don't provide anything. No, there's no games and stuff.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: You guys have to make up games back in the
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Mansion, not in Paradise. They would give you the phones.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: We could play heads up or something like that, and
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: they'd sometimes play a song or two, but there's no
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: like card games or anything like that because it would
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: be really bad TV. And to be honest, there's always
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: something to talk about. You never really truly feel bored.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: I know, it's really shocked. I know it's really weird.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: I'm also somebody who doesn't get bored very easily. Like
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I could probably sit and stare at the ocean for
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: a couple of hours and just be pretty content with
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: my brain. That's actually amazing, especially in that environment when
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: you're daydreaming about who you want to be with. Do
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: you think that's why people get so like when Hajjuan
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: was getting so aunty about everyone showing p d A,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: it was because she didn't have anything to do and
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: then the only person she would want to kind of
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: hang out with with on a date. Do you think
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: that's why she was so anty? Do you think that
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: was just her personality? I think it's just her personality.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: And she also got eliminated night one of Colton Seasons,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: which she didn't really understand how life in the bubble was,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: so that was probably an adjustment as well. Makes sense anyway. Okay,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: so did we get some to some emails? Before we
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: wrapped this stucker up. Well, there're actually a different vibe
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: this week. You know, we get a lot of emails
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: commenting on this week's show, But these are two interesting questions.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: One is from Diana. Does Chris Harrison just sit around
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: and dress pants and a button down at all times
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: while the calft is filming? Because when he needs to
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: pop in live, he comes in out of absolutely nowhere
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: and he's dressed impeccably. You know what, I don't know
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: if I've ever seen Chris Harrison just dressed down. I
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: feel like he's always been in a button up because
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: you never ever seen him in T shirts and a
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: T shirt and jeans. No, that doesn't seem Chris Harrison
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: to me. No, But like when he and Colton jumped
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: the fence and he came running out, he looked like
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: he always looks basically you'd expect to be like a
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: hoodie and maybe a baseball cap. Did he have a
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: full glam squad on? Oh yeah, I mean he is
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: a glam squad carry is his you know? He the
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: person that does the fashion for the lead also does
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison's fashion. And I wonder, But then again, like
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: how fast I mean, how long does it really take
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: to just throw on a jacket? Mark, That's true, that's
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: a good point. It's like two it's like two minutes.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: So maybe he doesn't have it on, but it's always
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: waiting in the wings. Well, this is from Marissa, and
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: this is sweet. She says, I've been friends with my
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: friend Paul for the past four years, and a little
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: less than a year into our friendship, I could tell
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: he had more than just friendship feelings towards me. At
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: one point, he told me he thought I was the
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: one and said and I said, I didn't think so
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: because it freaked me out. Well, for the past year,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: I can't shake the feeling that he is my person.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: After a long time of him chasing me, I finally
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: told him I liked him, and he told me he
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: wasn't ready to be in a relationship. We aren't together.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: We're at different stages of our lives. Currently. All my
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: friends think I'm crazy and that I should give this
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: whole thing up. I was just hoping to hear from Ashley.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: What made you know not to give up on Jared?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Did Actley enormously in this email? Because this is you
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: and Jared um I feel like, I feel like my
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: best advice to you is to move on. Like to
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: a certain extent, I think you can have that lingering feeling.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: And I definitely had a lingering feeling with Jared like
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: it could always happen, like there's always a chance it
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: may happen, and I actually think that chance is pretty great.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: But if if he's straight up saying no, like not now,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: then you have to live your life like no and
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: not now are two different things, aren't they? Right? And
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: that was definitely something with me and Jared. I think
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: like at some point, very early on, he he may
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: have made a comment like maybe down the road or
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: like I can we'll see you know, you don't know
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: what the future holds, and then I'd really cling onto
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: those statements. But I wonder if he I mean, obviously
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: it sounds like he meant that, but if a guy
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: said that, because you're married now, but if a guy
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: said that, I would be worried. He's just saying that
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: because he feels guilty. He's just saying that to let
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: me down easy to um know to To Jared's credit,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: he would never tell me that because he was always
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: very careful in like being as he always tried not
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: to lead me on in any way, so he would say, no,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: it's not going to happen to me, um, just so
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: that I wouldn't cling onto the idea. But I know
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: that he would say to other people one day, we'll
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: we'll see the fact that you're married, you're getting and
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: you're giving Paul a lot of credit. I know. The
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: thing that throws me off is, I know Nick told
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: you to stop pursuing Jared, but I feel like you're
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: what your friends say is super important, and her friends
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: are saying she should move on, okay, So it's it's
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: a really case by case and like they say, and
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: he's just not that into you. I know that I'm
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: the exception to the rule, so I don't want Marissa
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: to like totally cling on. And I do think the
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: best thing you can do is go and do other people.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: And if he doesn't, if you're gaining somebody else and
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: he's he seems like totally cool with that, and he
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: still wants to be like your friend and nothing more
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: than you probably have your answer, and that's what Jared
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: always says to It's like if the guy doesn't react,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: then then like it's probably just not going to happen
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: for you. But I feel hope for Marissa just because
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: he was the one that first said that she was
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: his one, so like, I don't know why you would
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: why she would give up? And and ends are interesting
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: because I think some friends will be like you have
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: to move on. But then in my case, Jared's best
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: friend from Rhode Island who I became friends with two
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: throughout our friendship, he was always telling me like, you
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: have no idea, like you guys are going to happen,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: Like you're gonna be together there. So it's just like
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: kind of a whole bunch of friends can see from
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different point of view. And if
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: your friends aren't really good friends with Paul, then I'm
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: not even sure they're much of a source for you.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: But your advice earlier, live your life, move on as
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: much as you can. If it is meant to be,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: it will happen. Absolutely, That's what I think that's meant
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: to be will be. And I think it's cheesy that
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, but that quote, if you love something,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: let it go, and if it comes back, it's yours
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: forever is good. Good to live by what a happy
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: ending thinking in a day is about. Probably, you know,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: you're so lucky to have all that happened. I am
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: so lucky. I'm so lucky. This is the longest Jared
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: and I have been apart in the past two weeks.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: When when I left the hotel room, it was like, Jared,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: I'm leaving you. It was like so weird. We literally
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: had not been like without a matter, We hadn't been
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: apart for more than like five yards in two weeks
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: on our honeymoon. I can't wait till you guys are
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: back in studio and I'm gonna squeeze the both of you. Well,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: we miss you, guys, and we can't wait to see
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: you next week. I hope Ben holds down the fort
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: like I know he will tomorrow for all the next week,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: so Chris and Crystal, Yeah, he'll have all the inside scoop.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: There was a lot that happened that what happened there
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: on the set of the wedding could be an entire episode,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: So we'll see if it actually does turn out to
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: be an entire episode. Oh my goodness. All right, guys,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Well that's all for today. I've been Ashley and and
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Tory and Mark. Who have you been I've been to?
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