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The Next Round: LSU-Ole Miss Gets Personal: Lane Kiffin Returns to Oxford | Aaron Murray Talks SEC | Hour 1 · The Next Round

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  Speaker 1: Later on, we'll continue a little overreaction in the NFL
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: with buying and selling of some teams, whether they'll bounce
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: back after an 0-1 start and make the playoffs. We've
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  Speaker 1: got all the talk of college football to get to,
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  Speaker 1: some TV ratings that we find interesting, but the world
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  Speaker 1: seems to be watching Oxford, Mississippi this week. LT, I'll
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  Speaker 1: ask you right off the bat here. Do you think that.
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  Speaker 2: It is pretty, let's say, petty?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Of an organization?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 5: Why?
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  Speaker 1: If you are getting out of your car at the
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  Speaker 1: LSU football complex, and of this week, of all of them,
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  Speaker 1: that's when you get court papers served from your old
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  Speaker 1: school Mississippi to Prince Uma Mealing.
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  Speaker 2: Prince U. Prince U there.
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  Speaker 1: He's getting out at the LSU football complex, and then boom,
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  Speaker 1: he gets served with court papers for money he owes LSU.
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss from his NIL days there.
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  Speaker 2: Of all weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Of all weeks.
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  Speaker 2: It's this week. Very coincidental. I don't get this. Why
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  Speaker 2: poke the cage? Why bring more to this? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I understand if you really want to serve him, you
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  Speaker 2: could have done it months ago, weeks ago. You could
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  Speaker 2: do it next week. To do it this week, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: obviously they're proving a point. that's what's behind this, but why?
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  Speaker 1: But it's some mind games, right? You're doing some mind games.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you tell me, because real quick, Wilson Alexander,
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  Speaker 1: who covers college football for On3 National, just tweeted, LSU
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  Speaker 1: offensive lineman Devin Harper also expected to be served with
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  Speaker 1: court papers soon as well. I mean, does that happen
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  Speaker 1: this week, too?
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  Speaker 2: You think you do them both this week? Oh, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure they will, but this is something LSU and Lane
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  Speaker 2: Kiffin would do. I'm a little surprised it's the other
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  Speaker 2: way around.
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  Speaker 1: Well, umanmeeling, I'm trying to say it the way, umanmeeling, umanmeeling,
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  Speaker 1: is the.
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  Speaker 2: Way it says here. You're trying to say it. I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying hard.
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  Speaker 1: If you serve him and then the other guy, it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you owe me two slaps to the face. You slapped
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  Speaker 1: me one time, and I never know when that second
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  Speaker 1: one's coming. Waiting for the second one's almost worse than
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  Speaker 1: getting served.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: So now they're sitting there going, ah, you know, the serve, this...
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  Speaker 1: These kids.
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  Speaker 2: Aren't worried about it. It's not like you're getting served
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  Speaker 2: where you're going to do time. They've got their camp
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  Speaker 2: that's going to handle this. But it's about a million dollars,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it? Altogether.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's about a lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how much they're going to be affected
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  Speaker 2: by it, but I don't think it's bothering the players
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  Speaker 2: at all. But it's a rallying point for Lane. Look
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  Speaker 2: at this Petty thing that they're doing. They call us Petty.
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  Speaker 2: Look what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin's probably right now saying they don't think they
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  Speaker 1: can line up and beat us fair and square. They
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  Speaker 1: are trying to play mind games with Prince. because they
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  Speaker 1: know they can't beat us otherwise. I mean, that's probably
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  Speaker 1: the angle Lane will take.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, Ole Miss got baited into this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand. And look, it could just– I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I will give, because Pete seemed genuine in what he
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  Speaker 1: said yesterday, so I'll give Pete the benefit of the doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Pete Golding, I don't think this came from him. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's happening above his head.
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  Speaker 2: And I'd be pissed if I was Pete, though.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's happening above his head.
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  Speaker 1: This could be happening with boosters. are just attorneys that are–
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  Speaker 1: I put the boosters above the head coach. I thought
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  Speaker 1: you meant Keith Carter.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Keith Carter seems like a really terrific dude.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't know Keith Carter. I don't either.
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  Speaker 1: I would be surprised also if he made this choice.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm with you, Lance. I'd be pissed if I'm
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  Speaker 1: Pete because I doubt they ran this. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: they ran this on a game week past AP?
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  Speaker 6: No, no.
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  Speaker 1: Smoke would be coming out of my ears if I
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  Speaker 1: was the head coach because exactly like you guys are saying,
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  Speaker 1: it is only going to fuel LSU. Do you guys
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  Speaker 1: really know, just for factual purposes, do you really know
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  Speaker 1: how many players– Are impacted by this? I didn't realize this.
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  Speaker 1: Impacted by what?
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  Speaker 2: The Ole Miss to LSU switch.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 2: The Ole Miss to LSU switch. It's not many. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's like seven. I got six.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted it to be eight. They wanted two more, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted to attach Hamlet, Skeewan, Lacey.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think that's a reflection of a
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  Speaker 2: couple of things. I think the guys in Oxford love Oxford. Right.
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  Speaker 2: I think they love their coach. They got a pay
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  Speaker 2: raise probably. Yeah, and I think, you know, if you
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  Speaker 2: like Lane, you're probably all in. And the guys that
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  Speaker 2: went with him probably are all about Lane Kiffin. Now,
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  Speaker 2: off the field.
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  Speaker 1: You've got six players that will play in the game
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  Speaker 1: that used to be at Ole Miss that are now
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  Speaker 1: at LSU. You have 10 coaches and 16 staff members
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  Speaker 1: that were at Ole Miss that are now at LSU.
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  Speaker 1: So there's where all the bad blood really is. The
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  Speaker 1: six guys on the field, now they're good.
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  Speaker 2: They're good. But there's a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: Playing in this game that's like, what's the big uproar
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  Speaker 1: about here, guys? If I may go back, though, for
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  Speaker 1: a moment, Jim, and this is unfortunate for Pete Golding,
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  Speaker 1: But this is a product of a guy that was
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  Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator that you promoted to a job, and
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  Speaker 1: he's got the best job he could have ever dreamed
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  Speaker 1: to have had. And the reason I say that is,
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  Speaker 1: and we use this example a lot, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: people get tired of us using this example, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: sorry we don't have a better example. Could you imagine
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  Speaker 1: the same situation and somebody doing this without Nick Saban knowing?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 6: He.
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  Speaker 1: would have lost his ever-loving mind.
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  Speaker 2: If there was an opportunity, they're losing their job. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if it was somebody at that level.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that booster would never be back in an Alabama game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he would have lost his mind if you
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  Speaker 1: did something like this on a game day. But because
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  Speaker 1: Pete was basically handed this job and he's– At this point,
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  Speaker 1: he's beholden to the powers that be. Yeah, you can
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  Speaker 1: push him around a little bit. Hey, should we run
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  Speaker 1: this by Pete? Don't worry about Pete. I got Pete.
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  Speaker 1: But Pete's just happy to be here. Pete's got this
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  Speaker 1: job because of me.
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  Speaker 2: And you know Saban's having this conversation with friends and
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  Speaker 2: colleagues right now saying, you know, everything was lined up
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  Speaker 2: the right way for Ole Miss and Pete. Like, they
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  Speaker 2: weren't saying anything. They're just going through their motions. They're
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  Speaker 2: getting ready for the game. And everything, all the focus
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  Speaker 2: is on LSU. Now this thing shifts around a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: How much of a factor is it? I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but it was unneeded.
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  Speaker 1: And I say that not as a criticism of Pete Golding.
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  Speaker 1: I think people that watch this show know we're fond
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  Speaker 1: of Pete. Favorite coach in college football. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: love the way he operates. I say this as that's
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  Speaker 1: unfortunate that you would treat a guy that way, that's
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  Speaker 1: your head coach, that you would do something like this
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  Speaker 1: on a game week. There's not an– I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: really think being served papers, it's going to matter if
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  Speaker 1: he got it on Tuesday, September 15th, or Tuesday, September 22nd.
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  Speaker 2: You could have taken care of this this summer. Or
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  Speaker 2: this summer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's timed out really well.
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  Speaker 2: Umamiling. Umamiling. I think I got it that time.
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  Speaker 1: That way, Jimmy.
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  Speaker 2: There we go. Work through it.
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  Speaker 1: Six times always the charm. Mark that down, Brooks, for
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  Speaker 1: a show to do in the summer. We just give
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  Speaker 1: Jim 10 athletes, and let's see how close he can
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  Speaker 1: come to pronouncing it.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Jim, by the way, there is no G in
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  Speaker 4: his name.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at this, not, but I'm looking at the pronunciation.
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  Speaker 2: Mealing is the way they're saying this.
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  Speaker 1: There's no you in tongue of Aloha, but she's pronouncing
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  Speaker 1: you for some reason. I'm just, I'm looking at the pronunciation,
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  Speaker 1: the official pronunciation. It's human like human. And then Scott,
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  Speaker 1: don't get in his head. Scott just gave you a game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's no G.
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  Speaker 2: Me-ling.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. I'm just reading it like it.
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  Speaker 2: Is that from Ole Miss, Jim? Or from LSU? I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Is that from LSU, Jim? It's from Grok.
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  Speaker 3: I already mentioned we should have a Jimmy Phonics segment.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 2: That's fantastic. That would be good. Let's save it for
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  Speaker 2: the summer, though.
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• 8:20
  Speaker 1: that hung around, they liked Lane Kiffin. Well, Whit Weeks
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: is in a unique situation. He's actually dating Lane Kiffin's daughter,
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: and he's one of the captains of this LSU football team.
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  Speaker 1: Here's Whit Weeks down in Baton Rouge on what's going
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  Speaker 1: on this week with LSU and Ole Miss, the big
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  Speaker 1: top ten showdown in Oxford.
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  Speaker 5: Your stance will be a little bit different than any
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  Speaker 5: of your other teammates this weekend because you do have
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  Speaker 5: a personal tie to your head football coach. Have you
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  Speaker 5: thought about just how he will be received and treated
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  Speaker 5: this weekend when you guys get off the bus?
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  Speaker 7: I haven't really thought about how he's going to– I
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  Speaker 7: haven't really thought about that, but, I mean, I know
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  Speaker 7: he's going to get it.
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  Speaker 1: I know they don't like him up there.
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  Speaker 6: So– But he's prepared for that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 6: He's done it before in his career. So I know
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  Speaker 6: he's more prepared than anybody.
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  Speaker 2: He's done it before in his career. He has at Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: Of all the people, Lane has done it before. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they had to send security over to Layla and secure
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  Speaker 1: the house. I guess when the kids, Knox was very small.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: Landry was very small when he was leaving Tennessee. Got
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: left on a tarmac at USC. The owner with the
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: Raiders hated him. Wrote a letter about him, a public
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  Speaker 1: letter about him. But nothing as bad as this, this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, and you can sum all that up to
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: just being really, really immature. Al Davis couldn't stand him,
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: but he was 31 years old at that point. Pat Hayden,
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  Speaker 2: who fired him on the tarmac, the former AD at USC,
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  Speaker 2: could not stand him. But you know lane's one of
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  Speaker 2: those guys that you know he loves to poke the
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  Speaker 2: cage and.
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  Speaker 1: Got fired from alabama people forget that oh yeah yeah
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  Speaker 1: saving him and made up and the most for a
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  Speaker 1: national championship.
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  Speaker 2: And i think there's still a lot of alabama fans
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  Speaker 2: although they were going to forgive lane if lane was
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: going to come to alabama and possibly take that job
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  Speaker 2: before caitlin abor every day ever did but Alabama fans
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  Speaker 2: will never forget that. There's a lot to blame him
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  Speaker 2: for that national championship loss.
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  Speaker 1: But the difference in all the situations you just mentioned
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  Speaker 1: is he's doing the best coaching he's ever done. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what gets lost here. He's coaching the best football
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  Speaker 1: he's ever coached.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what's unfortunate.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what gets lost with Lane because of all
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  Speaker 1: the other Lane stuff. He was 55-19 at Ole Miss.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 2: It's the best... In my lifetime, it's the best I've
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: ever seen Ole Miss be. And see, I don't think people...
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  Speaker 2: I think with what we do for a living, we
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: can kind of equate to what an incredible job that
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  Speaker 2: he did, winning double-digit games three or four years at
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  Speaker 2: Ole Miss. But I think the outside perception is just
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin doing Lane Kiffin things. I don't think just
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  Speaker 2: your casual fan equates him with a great offensive mind
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  Speaker 2: that has really, really built something special.
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: Listen, our... Commercial breaks are not that long here on
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: Sporting State. On the fly, final segment of the show today.
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  Speaker 2: With our huge, big, dry race boards.
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  Speaker 1: Because this has to be the worst job in Oxford
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: on Saturday. Well, it won't be the worst job. There'll
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: be a lot of bad jobs in Oxford this weekend.
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: Being security?
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  Speaker 1: They got the mounted police. Somebody's got to follow those
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: horses with a shovel. New Orleans is not sending mounted.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: They're going to have mounted police, but they won't be
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: from New Orleans. There's some from Mobile as well. Mobile,
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: Alabama is sending some folks and. There's some extra security there.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: But remember, there are people, if you've ever been to
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: college game days, there are people there that have to
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: check all the signs. That's right. Oh, my gosh. Can
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: you imagine having to check all the signs?
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  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you just let them go?
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at this point, you're like, And we give up.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the guidelines are, but they kick
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  Speaker 1: some signs out. The Jesus sign gets in every week.
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  Speaker 1: That guy's awful early. Every week that Jesus sign is
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  Speaker 1: right there on the front row, which I'm pro that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pro Jesus. You're pro Jesus, but I.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: Wish that sign wasn't there, really. It's blocking a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of real estate.
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  Speaker 1: There's 8 million signs.
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  Speaker 2: What do you want to see? Well, I mean, it's
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: right in the shot all the time. Do they still
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: have the Wazoo sign?
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: Wazoo flag.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's there.
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  Speaker 1: But it gets blocked by the Jesus sign. Listen, I'm pro-Jesus, too.
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  Speaker 1: You don't like his sign, apparently. Do we need that
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  Speaker 1: sign every week? I mean, Jesus may want it there, Jim.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: Thought that Jesus wants that sign there? Can we not
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: just put somebody in a rainbow wig holding John 316?
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: Is that not enough? Have you ever thought the Holy
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  Speaker 1: Spirit wanted that sign there?
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  Speaker 2: I think this is going to be a weekend where
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  Speaker 2: some get through, and it's probably going to be on
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  Speaker 2: the broadcast. You're going to be like, damn, look at
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  Speaker 2: that one. And then next break, it's going to be gone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be gone. Because I always wonder...
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: It's hard to hide a sign. It is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying you can get it in for maybe
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  Speaker 2: one segment.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I don't know how... Have you
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  Speaker 1: ever seen the process that people have to go through
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  Speaker 1: to get the signs in? No.
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  Speaker 2: You've never seen it? I haven't either. I've seen the...
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how strict it is. I've seen the.
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  Speaker 1: the trash pile of the signs that were taken away.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's what I want to see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody will have that photo. That's the video I want.
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  Speaker 1: All the signs that were rejected.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Sit there and just screenshot all day long. This one
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  Speaker 1: didn't get in. This one didn't get in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's the ones I want to see because there'll be
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  Speaker 1: some good ones. Like I saw on social and Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Siskey will join us in the second half of the
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: show who lives, who makes his home in Oxford. He
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: and Neil McCready do.
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  Speaker 2: A great podcast.
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  Speaker 1: One Eastern 12th century. And I saw Tyler yesterday. sent
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  Speaker 1: out a photo of a sign that was vulgar, as
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  Speaker 1: you might imagine, and he was like, it's only Tuesday,
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: and it's already one of the big sheet signs hanging out.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: At a frat house?
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: At a frat house. Well, it actually looked like a townhouse.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: It didn't even look like a frat house. And I
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: saw earlier today on social media somebody reporting that Oxford's
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: mayor has told the police, go take down all the signs.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: So now apparently Oxford police are sweeping through taking down
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: all the signs.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: Where's my First Amendment right?
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: You've got an argument, I would say. Now, see, it depends.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: If it's fraternity house and it's owned by the university, then,
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: you know, it's almost like an HOA. I mean, they can,
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: at that point. Yeah, there's relationships.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: A lot of those fraternity houses are owned by the fraternities,
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: but there's an agreement to have that property. Of course,
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: on the sign part, I'd make my case I'm on
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: state property, so I should have a First Amendment right
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: there as well, but either way. The report I saw,
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: and we'll ask Tyler about this, is the Oxford mayor
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: was telling people to take down the signs. Let us
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: on Sporting State not defend the First Amendment. I mean,
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: you should be able to. I mean, it's not on broadcast.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: I've seen some really intense signs.
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: At frat houses, Tuscaloosa, Auburn, all over the SEC. Yes,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just kind of a thing the frat
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: houses do. I guess in the South. I don't know
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: if they do that elsewhere.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Well, when I had to go. I don't know if
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: it's a big team thing.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: When I spent Fridays on campus, when I was doing
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: local TV, that was always the video I'd count on doing.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Let's go get some of the signs.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to the frat houses. All right, guys,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: we're back here in Tuscaloosa. Boy, the ATOs are fired up.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: They're not happy about Nick Saban being in town.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Look at that. Yeah, I bet those are brutal. Yeah,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: nothing like this weekend. Here's Kiwan Lacey. You wonder about
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: the players, Trinidad and Kiwan.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: They got the offer to go to LSU, as you
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: would imagine, two of the best quarterbacks and running back
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: combos in all of college football. So Kiwan gets asked
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: yesterday about his relationship with Lane Kiffin. How close do
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: you think they are?
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Listen in.
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: Kiwan, what's your relationship with Lane like now?
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Really don't have a relationship with him. Just focus on
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: the season.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Prepared answer? There we go.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Key one very brief.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure Key one was an old transition was
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: going through. I'm sure Lane reached out and said, we'd
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: love to have you as an LSU Tiger. And he
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: passed on it, and that probably was the end of
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: the relationship. Yeah.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Last year, the way the season ended, I think Ole
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Miss went just as far as they would have gone
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: with Lane.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think Lance argues they went further. I think
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: they went further. You think they went further without Lane?
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: You don't think they would have beaten Georgia? Well, you know,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: it was one of those– we've seen– you know, based on,
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: you know, different adverse situations, how, you know, teams galvanized
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: together and they felt jilted. They felt like they were left.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: They felt like they were left Lane's reasoning. And they
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: were probably told internally, he doesn't believe you guys could
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: ever want a national championship. That's why he took the
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: LSU job. He said as much. And, and like that
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: game against Georgia, there was something special going on with
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss. I don't think they would have beaten Georgia
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: with Lane. I've seen, you know, Ole Miss, Georgia before
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: and how that thing's played out. I know, I think
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Lane's got one win against Kirby, but I just, I
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: feel like it was kind of a moment in time
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: and it went the right way because of that.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I agree with Lance.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: I think there was a galvanizing element to Lane leaving
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: and Pete taking over. Not that they wouldn't have played
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: hard for Lane, but I think they, it seemed like
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: they played hard for Pete. They played harder for Pete Golding.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: The most amazing thing would have been Had they held
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: on and beat Miami. I mean, for Pete Golding to
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: coach his way through the playoffs to play for a
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: national championship.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: And it's still, it was a PI at the end.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's no doubt it was pass interference at the end.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: If the refs do their job, they've got an untimed
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: down from the two. Is that the way that works?
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Pass interference in the end zone in college? Either way,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: they could have won that game and played for a
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: national championship. That would have been an incredibly amazing story.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: And if you look at the way Miami played Indiana,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: who knows? Miami had a ball in hand with a
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: chance to beat Indiana, maybe Ole Miss would have to.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Look, this is just an opinion. Like, we will never
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: know because that never played out that way. But it
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: just felt like Ohio– or, excuse me, Ole Miss had
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: a huge chip on the shoulder going into the college
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: football playoff.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Is this going to be a good game, though?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I kind of hope so.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I do, too. But, you know, so often these– Because
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I planned my Saturday around it already. Me, too.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Me, too.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: And I hate like heck that Auburn, Florida is at
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: the same time. But so often these games that get
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: built up like this don't deliver. And well, game of
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: the century. And I'm not saying this is a game
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: for national with national championship implications, but it is two
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: top 10 teams. So technically it is the game of
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the century was I thought was a really good football game.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: But what was that? Nine, six and overtime, six overtime.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: And that was late in the season. I mean, you
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: knew winner of that game was going to play for
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: the national championship. You didn't know what you.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Thought the loser might not.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: And yeah.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Alabama got an incredible break.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if it wasn't for Oklahoma State absolutely blowing that
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Friday night game against Iowa State, then Alabama wouldn't have
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: got an opportunity. I do think whoever comes out of
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: this game unscathed, whether it's Ole Miss or LSU, they're
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: in a great situation. Oh, they are.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: To make the playoffs. Real quickly, schedule-wise, is that why
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: you're saying that? I mean, LSU still has Alabama and Texas.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: No, but if you look at LSU, like going into
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: the season, we thought Clemson would be much more competitive.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was a dangerous game. And then having
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: to go to Oxford, if you win both of those
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: games in September, you know, you're just in a really
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: good spot. And I think Ole Miss, I don't know
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: about you guys, but I will believe Ole Miss is
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: better than I thought they were going to be going
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: into this season. If they've already knocked off Louisville, who
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I think is better than advertised and Then if they
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: were to knock off LSU after the way they looked,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I would be really, really impressed with the start for
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: There is no doubt between Ole Miss and LSU's schedule
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: that Ole Miss has the better win so far.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: It's not even close. They do. Louisville's better than Clemson.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I will tell you, both teams, their biggest issue is
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: next week.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Coming down. Coming down.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, LSU's hosting Texas A & M. I mean,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that is a difficult game under any circumstance. And Ole
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Miss is going to Florida. They pack up and go
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: to Florida. Yeah, I mean, both those games are incredibly difficult.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Imagine if Florida has beaten Auburn this weekend and they're
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: 3-0 with a home game in Ole Miss. That'll be
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: a juiced environment. Hey, we're going to talk about a
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: ton of college football with Aaron Murray, who was in
• 19:43
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• 20:13
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• 20:37
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• 20:39
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  Speaker 1: played in the Kingdome in Seattle. He played in the
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Georgia Dome in Atlanta.
• 20:46
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• 20:49
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• 21:33
  Speaker 1: at some point. XX-XYAthletics.com. Excuse me. XX-XYAthletics.com. When Aaron gets here,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: we'll talk a little football. I swear I thought I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: remembered a Kingdome game for the Sonics back in the day.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Do you remember when Jordan played at the Georgia Dome?
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Do you guys remember that?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: 1979, Kingdome. Okay. They played there.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they actually played their home games at the Kingdome
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: from 78 to 85.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I don't remember that. Is that Key Arena
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: came in in 85? I guess so, yeah.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: So that's where they played until they had Key Arena
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: built there. I remember some massive crowds out there.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do remember the Georgia, because I went and
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: saw Kobe in his rookie or second year, because they
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: were doing the transition from playing in the Omni to Phillips.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: And so they had to play in the Dome.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I think when Jordan played at the Georgia Dome, it
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: was like 65,000 people at the game or something like that.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Well, we used to play the SEC tournament there. Oh,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I know, yeah. It was the only Final Four I've
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: ever been to. Terrible. Terrible, yep.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Old men yelling at the clouds. Aaron Murray is with
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: us now. You see him on the SEC Network. We'll
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: talk all SEC with Aaron, but he's uniquely qualified, though,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: to talk about the Auburn-Florida game because he's seen both
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: teams already this year.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Welcome in, Aaron. How are you today? Man, excited.
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you said I had Florida week one. I had
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: Auburn week two. So it's good to see those. I
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: got to go to... Mississippi State versus South Carolina this weekend,
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: which I am just, man, I cannot wait to see
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: those quarterbacks play. I mean, I think that's going to
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: be one of the best games at that second window
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: on Saturday. And just, boy, getting to see Kamario Taylor
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: in person, I have just been salivating all week to
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: get to South Carolina.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: So who's got the quarterback matchup advantage in both of
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: those games? Philo versus Byron Brown. And then, you know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: you obviously mentioned Lenora Sellers and Kamario Taylor.
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm going to go with Philo, honestly,
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: in the game. I think he's played a little bit
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: more consistent to the first two weeks. And I know
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: they haven't played a Baylor that Auburn has. But even
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: going back as preparation for that week one matchup for
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: them versus FAU, watching the tape from a year ago,
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: I was like, man, I am just so impressed with
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: the way this guy plays inside the offense. I love
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: what Buster Faulkner is able to do with creating leverage
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: and soft points on a defense. And, and, and I
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: thought Aaron following the film, you know, during his Georgia
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: tech time, did a really nice job of facilitating B.
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: I know the word gets thrown out a lot when
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: it talks to him or just quarterbacks in general of
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: just being a point guard, getting the ball to guys
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: in space. And, but that that's part of being with
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: Buster Faulkner is he's able to throw all the motions
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: and the shifts create a soft defense where guys cannot press.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: And then you look at the elite speed of the
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: Florida receivers and, When you create those motions and shift
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: and you get off coverage, you're able just to catch it,
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: see it, and just get the ball out of your hands.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: I thought he did a good job at Georgia Tech
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: doing that. I think he's doing a really good job
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: at Florida doing that as well. So I think he's
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: playing with a lot of confidence. My one concern with
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: Byram is, and it's a little bit shocking because he's
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: been in the offense. His starting three receivers are guys
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: that he's very familiar with, obviously during his time at USF,
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: but he just has seemed late with the football the
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: past two weeks. Like guys are open, but he's late
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: getting the ball out of his hands. And I even
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: last week, there's the game that I was broadcasting, you know,
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: Southern Miss quarterback had one where, you know, it was
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: like a stick route to the tight end and he
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: gets it, bam, throws it between two defenders. It's completion.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: Two possessions before that, Byron had the same thing and
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: he didn't throw the football and the guy's wide open.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: And I said in the broadcast, like Byron should see this.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: Like this is open in the SEC. You have to
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: trust it and get rid of it. And right now
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: he's just not, trusting himself, like I said, which is
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: a little shocking because he's playing the offense and he's
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: played with these receivers. So I need him to be
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: a little bit better with that one. And then with
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: the other game, I think Camario is playing as good,
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: if not better than anyone else in the country right now.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: I think he's going to end up being the best
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: quarterback in college football this season. So I think that
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: answers that question. I love Lenores. I think Lenores has
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: struggled a little bit to start this season. You know,
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: I think the receivers have not helped them at all
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: with drops. But there's been multiple times where I've seen
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: guys open and the ball is just dying on him.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: And I think there's a little bit of a question
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: of getting used to the new offense, feeling comfortable in
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: the offense with Kendall Bryles. And hopefully that gets better
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: and better each week because I know he's got a
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: strong enough arm. But I said too many times I've
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: seen the ball die in him. And I think that's
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: still him working through kind of getting through his reads
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: and throwing the ball with that confidence.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Listen, you're like the fifth person I respect football mind
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: wise that tells me Buster Faulkner is is this or that.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I've had one guy tell me that he does it
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: different than anybody else in the SEC. I see Grubb
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and a lot of teams shift in motion a lot.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Can you just give me an elevator pitch on what
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Buster Faulkner does that's so different than everybody else? I mean,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: there are only 11 guys on the field, right? I know.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's different?
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: I mean, yes, everyone does. Don't get me wrong. There's
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: very few like back in my day. Back in my day.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: Back in my day stuff. We would just line up
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: and play football. It was like, hey, I got AJ Green.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: We don't need a motion shift. We're just going to
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: line up and just throw it up to him. It's easy.
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: It was more about the Jimmys and Joes and the
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: Xs and Os. And talking with Buster, he's like, man,
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: that is my job. My job is to make life easier.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: So yes, there are everyone in their mind. Lane Kiffin
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: does it as good as anyone as well. Finding ways
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: to create leverage through formation and shifts and finding those
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: little pain points that for the defense. So it's not
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: just about motion to motion. It's not about shifting to
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: just shift. It's about understanding what the defense is presenting
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: to me and where the weakness is on that defense
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: to get my playmakers in space and get them the ball.
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: And I just think that his understanding of the defense
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: and what he has offensively to work with, you know,
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: VB three, for example, you know, can I take him
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: from an outside position, get him in a quick motion
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: where the ball is snapped while he's still in motion.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: And all of a they're having to communicate defensively and
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: he's matched up against a nickel so your third corner
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: your third db or he's matched up against a linebacker
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: or a safety and he's able to use that speed
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: to create leverage and then get the ball the quarterback's
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: hand so yes to your point a lot of people
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: do it and i'm not saying that like what he's
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: doing is like oh my god no one else is
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: doing in college football i just think he does it
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: a And his football IQ of understanding where the weak
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: points are in the defense allows him to do it
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: in a way that gives a quarterback a lot of
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: confidence throwing the football.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Uh, I, Aaron, quickly, I have to ask my colleagues,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: may I ask two questions here? Because he's already said, please,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: he's already said two things. I want to clarify. I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: was going to ask too, because I want to know
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: what Camario is. Camario is going to be like, if
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: something ever goes wrong, cause nothing goes wrong for him yet.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll save that for later.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, he could blend that into the first one.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Did you just say you think at the end of
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the year, Camario Taylor will be the best quarterback in America?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Did I hear that?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: Okay. I, I, I, I don't know what's wrong with him.
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: And I, I'm hoping that I'm not jinxing him before
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: I call this game. And you know, USC gets the
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: best of him, like USC got the best of me,
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: Williams-Rice Stadium, because that is a very, yeah, that's one that,
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: you know, Auburn, same way, one of the most difficult
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: places to play, you know, Sandstorm, they're going to be juiced.
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: It's going to be hot. It's a tough environment. So
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: this is going to be a huge test for him
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: to really show the country that, yes, I can play
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: to the level, especially if Dylan Stewart's playing. If Dylan
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: Stewart's playing, you know, that obviously makes that game even
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: more difficult for him. But you look at him, 6'4, 230.
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: elite speed. You saw the 70 yard touchdown off his
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: back foot. We've seen the accuracy, some of the balls
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: that he's putting in there on the run with inside
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: the pocket. So yes, I would love to see how
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: he handles adversity and struggling. But when you look at
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: all the things that make up a really good quarterback,
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: he's got it. And he wants to be a quarterback first.
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: And it's something you talk to the coaching staff and
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: you read all the articles. He's not relying on his athleticism.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: That is, and I get, products, you know, props to
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: a lot of the quarterbacks in this league. You look
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: at Tennessee, you look at Alabama, those guys want to
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: be QBs with inside the pocket first, and then use
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: their athleticism second to then create plays and break down
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: a defense. But man, when it just comes to, like
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: I said, all the little things from accuracy to standing
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: in the pocket to arm strength, I've yet to find
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: a flaw watching him play so far this season. And yeah,
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: it's not been against maybe tough, tough defenses, but he
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: was on the road last week against Minnesota. That's not
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: a bad program. And once again, he was pretty flawless.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: All right, quickly, there's a narrative, I guess. We keep
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: hearing it through two weeks that Auburn's receivers cannot get separation.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And what you've watched, is that an accurate narrative?
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: No, I don't think so. I still think Auburn at
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: the end of the day, it's the offensive line. I
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: think the offensive line is going to be better. I think,
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: to my point earlier, Byron's got to let the ball go.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: There's multiple times in week one and then even week
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: two where guys are open and he's just not letting
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: it rip. These aren't the Florida receivers, don't get me wrong,
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: but I still think that Singleton and Nimrod, Chase Nimrod's
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: a guy that definitely be on the lookout for. I
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: think he's the most talented of the three can open
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: things up. But I think it's still an order of
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: things that have to get better for Auburn. It's offensive
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: line's got to be better. Byron's got to let the
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: ball go. And then I would say, yeah, the receivers
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: are good. There's not an all-SEC guy on that roster,
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: but they've been open enough to where an SEC quarterback's
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: got to let it go.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: So Alabama is trailing for 42 minutes in Lexington. Literally, Aaron,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: a tell of two halves. with Alabama down four at
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: halftime and then blowing out Kentucky 32-0 in the second half.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Keelan Russell turned it over three times in the first half,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: settled in in the second half, his first road start
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: in the SEC. Where are you right now on Russell
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: early in the season?
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: I like him, man. Like, listen, it was, it was,
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: it was a good, shout out to Kentucky. They brought
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: the juice for that game. And, you know, obviously for him,
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: some of those, like that first interception just sucks. And
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: then That was my problem too, watching the tape for Alabama.
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, how many times was he throwing to the left,
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: that quick screen, or even rolling to his left where
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: there's a defender in his face? And it is so
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: difficult for a quarterback to work your arm angle going
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: that direction with defenders in your face. So I would
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: like to see this offense maybe stop doing that as much.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: I know he's athletic. You're like, oh, he'll just run
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: around the guy or he'll figure it out with his
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: arm angle. And that is very difficult to do against
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: guys that can run when you have a free rusher
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: to your left moving that direction. So I think there's
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: some stuff schematically that can be better for Alabama. But
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: at the end of the day, when I watched, I
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: still think there was more good than bad from Keelan Russell.
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: I still saw a quarterback mature, get better through the game,
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: obviously have a better second half. I think he's a
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: good guy. I think you're back home. You're not on
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: the road, so you don't have to deal with that.
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: I think you should have gained some confidence from a
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: week ago. obviously the run game is going to help
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: any quarterback play at a higher level. I still am
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: a little bit concerned with Alabama's run game. I still
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: saw some glaring weaknesses, especially that center position that kind
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: of gave me a pause of, is this something that
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: can be reliable the entire season? Or was it just
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: because we were going against Kentucky that we were able
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: to create those explosive plays in the run game? So yeah,
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: overall as an offense, when you look at Alabama, I
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: wouldn't say I'm extremely confident that this offense is going
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: to be scoring 40-plus points a week, but when it's
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: all said and done, I don't think you have to.
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: I think this defense, what it showed me last week,
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: because we knew the secondary was going to be good, man,
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: they're big, they're fast, they're physical, they get after the quarterback,
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: they can stop the run. This defense is going to
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: be one of the best defenses in the SEC. So
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: to me, it's like, can we just continue to put
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: Keelan in a position where he feels comfortable, not put
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: him in bad situations, which I think they did a
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: couple times last week, and just trust that our defense
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: is going to win us a lot of these football games.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I apologize for always asking you football questions more than
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: broadcasting questions. I want to pick your football brain. But,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you know, I follow up this Dante Moore tipping his
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: pass play, run play thing, and I want to ask
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: you about as a quarterback, how much of that's on Dante?
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: How much is on the quarterback room? Everybody's in there, QB2, QB3.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Do you guys help each other out? with things like
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: that and how much of that is on coaching is,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: and it could be D all of the above. Walk
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: me through that. I mean, did you ever tip anything?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Do you find yourself catching yourself doing some things?
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: I mean, you may cheat. You may cheat a little bit,
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: like as a snaps going, like maybe moving your feet
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: at the last second, but nothing, you know, pre-snap to
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: give it away. I think that's one on the coaches first,
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: because that's their job to look at, and especially self-scout.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: You want to self-scout your players. So that's the entire
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: staff from hell, even the defense. I mean, the defensive staff,
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: as you're going through spring ball and fall camp, and
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: you're kind of going against your offense, you should be like,
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: Oh wow. Like our quarterbacks giving away this tail. Like
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: I like you, you do self-scouting and a lot of
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: times you wait to the bi-week to do that for your,
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: for your team or the defensive side of the offense,
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: offensive side of the defense. But that's a, that's a
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: coaching problem first that needs to get addressed. And then yes,
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: it's a, it's a quarterback next. Like you, you have
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: to be aware of what you're doing. with everything, whether
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: it's the way that you approach the line of scrimmage
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: and ID the mic, whether it's your footwork, whatever it
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: may be. There's too many camera angles. There's too much
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: film out there. And obviously a lot of these guys
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: watch the TV broadcast as well, where you have to
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: be careful the signals and the tips you're giving. So
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't blame the backup quarterbacks. They're just worried about themselves.
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: So it really goes coaches one, and then I would
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: say QB second with getting that right.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Aaron murray is with us sec network mississippi state south
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: carolina the 315 game you see her in a lot
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: in prime time he'll be on the 315 central time
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: game this week uh speaking of prime time we are
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: contractually obligated to ask you about lsu omiss you played
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: for a coach that uh i don't think ever pissed
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: anybody off he was such a nice guy other than
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the one situation with florida but you weren't on that
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: team on the celebration penalty you weren't there yet um
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: So I don't know that you ever played in a
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: game that was hotly contested like this. Maybe I am incorrect.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm forgetting one, Aaron, but how do you manage
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: emotions in a situation like this? That seems like that
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: is going to be a massive storyline Saturday night.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: It's so funny.
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: You talk, you bring up coach Rick. Cause I was with, um, uh,
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: champ Bailey and, and, and Brandon Boykin yesterday, we do
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: a local show in Atlanta and, you know, Boykin asked
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: us that question. Like, what if coach Rick left? Obviously
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: champ was not with coach Rick, but you asked Morris
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: me like, what if coach Rick left? And, went to,
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: you know, Tennessee or whatever, like, would that, would that
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: add more fire to you for that game? I was like,
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: you know, like for me personally, like I approach every
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: game the same. Did I have teammates that maybe had
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: a little bit too much of a good time during
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: the week and maybe went out on a Thursday. So like,
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: maybe they would focus in a little bit more on
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: a bigger game or if there was some extra fuel
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: to the fire, like, yeah. So like, yes, you'll get
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: more of Ole Miss locked in this week than maybe
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: other weeks, which is great for, for them as, as
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: they get ready for it. But, I think for LSU,
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: they proved to us, and I said this all heading
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: into week one, because Lane has always been in the
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: news and always been a distraction. Lane knows how to
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: get his guys ready. And that was a talk week
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: one of, oh, it was as LSU distracted with all
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: this craziness about NFL players and this and the other.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: And I was like, no, Lane's been there, done that.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: He knows how to get a team ready. And they
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: went out there and they dominated Clemson. So LSU will
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: be fine. I'm not worried about LSU not mentally being
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: ready and being distracted for this game. I do worry
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: about Ole Miss players trying to do too much. And
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: we see that a lot, especially on defense. When guys
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: are trying to make a statement, they're not playing with
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: inside the scheme. They're not staying in their gap. They're
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: trying to hit the quarterback or do something they're not
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: supposed to do because they're trying to make a highlight
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: play to send a statement to Lane Kiffin and the offense.
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: So yes, for that side of the football specifically, they
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: have to calm their nerves and play inside the offense
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: and just go out there and do their thing for
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: Pete Golding. But I like LSU in this game, boys.
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: I really do. I think at the end of the day,
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of talk about Lane Kiffin versus Pete Golding.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: These guys have seen each other. They've gone against each
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: other in practice. They know their tendencies. If there's anyone
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: that I trust in college football, if I told them, hey,
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: this is what a defense does and this is their DNA,
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: I trust Lane Kiffin and Charlie Weiss Jr. to get
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: some guys open. And we saw Louisville in week one
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: get some guys wide open, that quarterback missed even a
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: couple of them, hit some of them as well. I
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: think you may see some guys wide freaking open this
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: weekend for the LSU Tigers.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Two weeks in, it's always tough to evaluate. But when
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: we get to November, and both things can be right,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: do you think we're going to be saying Clemson was
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: that bad or LSU was that good?
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: I think we're going to say both. I think LSU's
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: defense is for real. I think you've seen Baker on
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: that side of the football and the improvements that defense
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: has made. over the past two seasons. And it's hard
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: not to turn the tape and see, you know, Daughtery
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: and Weeks and Uman Mielin and Ross and just the
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: speed of that front seven. And then obviously the length
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: of the back end, like that defense is, is that
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: defense travels that defense, just like I talked about Alabama, like, Oh,
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: is that defense is good. They just played Kentucky. No,
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: like you can turn on the tape and tell when
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: a defense is top notch. And I think LSU is,
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: has a top-notch defense. The offense will continue to improve.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: I still think Sam Levitt, because of the fact that
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: he missed a lot of time due to the injury,
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: will get more comfortable in the offense. I love the
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: skill possessions. Obviously, we love trade as green. I think,
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: you know, I still don't think we talk enough about
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: Eugene Wilson. I remember, you know, when he was rolling
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: at Florida, like that guy is a hell of an
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: athlete at the receiving position. So I think the offense
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: will continue to get better. So I think it's I
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: think it could be both. I think LSU is the
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: real deal. And I can also say that I am
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: worried that Clemson could be 7-5 this season.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: This was a fantastic interview. You were terrific, but the
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: single best part of it is Jim spent the entire
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: first segment trying to say Prince's last name correctly, and
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think he ever did. I think I'm sending
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: you guys an emoji with a middle finger right now.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I've got the pronunciation right here. It's got a G
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: on the end.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: You reeled it off like he's.
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: Uman Mielin.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Uman Mielin.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Am I saying it wrong?
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: No, I think you nailed it, but the pronunciation that
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at says the last part sounds like me-ling. Me-ling.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I'm going Aaron Murray. I'm going SEC's all-time winning passer.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: Uman Ming-Ellen?
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: No.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Aaron, don't do this. Don't let it get in your head.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Don't overthink it. Don't overthink it. I don't have LSU
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: this weekend.
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: If I do have them, I'll make sure I have
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: it down pat.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Trust me, I'm the guy you did not want in
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: the quarterback room with you. I'd have had you looking
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: at ghosts all the time.
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: Jim, this is an AI recap. This isn't anything like official.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I know. Dunaway has bitten into an AI recap. And
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Aaron said it like he's related to the guy. And
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Dunaway's questioning him.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Aaron, thank you very much for the time. Great talking
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: with you. That will be a fantastic game you've got Saturday.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: We look forward to it.
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: Appreciate it, guys. Have a good one.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: All right, man.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Take care of that.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: It's Aaron Murray with us on the show. I'm going
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: SEC all-time leading passer, SEC network employee, getting it right.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you're like AI recap, Jim. Where do
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: you think freaking AI got it from?
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: They steal it off of information that's out there.
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: They pull it from anywhere. Any idiot that just posts something,
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: they steal from Reddit.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: They don't steal from Reddit.
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: They do. There was a trash story I had.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: The data center I'm building in my neighborhood will not
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: steal from Reddit.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: It will.
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: The Google recap took, I think it was putting nail
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: polish into a waffle recipe or something. I had it
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: in trash like a year ago.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Delicious, delicious, by the way.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: You've never tasted it. Listen, I'm leaving Bentbrook yesterday after
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: playing golf. Big sign. Hand-painted now. So it wasn't like
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: an official sign. Ox from here to make them take
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: it down. Right out was getting ready to turn left
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: or right out of Bentbrook.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Big sign.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, it looks like it was one of our
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Tuesday dry erase boards. It said, no data centers. I
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: don't even know where they're trying to build one. Whoever
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: wrote that sign.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Is like, no data centers. They're trying to build them
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: in McCollum. Did you put that sign up? No, no.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: It's the very rural.
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  Speaker 3: Jefferson County people out in unincorporated Jefferson County that are
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  Speaker 3: very anti data center.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Don't think that sign is going to prevent it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They're not going to look at that side. It's like,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Oh God, we can't build here.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: I didn't have an anti data center sentiment in a
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: rural Shelby County as well.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't have a vote. I, you know, I was like,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I gave it a thumbs up and I was still
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: steaming over a three putt on 18.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: They're all over the place.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I don't blame them. I don't blame them. All right.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: When we come back, uh, we'll do some more college football.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Got a lot of NFL to get to as well
• 42:37
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• 42:41
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• 42:44
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• 42:46
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• 42:53
  Speaker 1: stakes in the commercial break and i usually throw mine
• 42:56
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• 42:59
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• 43:03
  Speaker 1: came in. So I preheated it at 450, and then
• 43:07
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• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Do you keep it in the black skillet? No. So
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  Speaker 2: what I do is I do four minutes each side
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: on the black skillet, and then I throw it. It
• 43:14
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• 43:19
  Speaker 2: it gets a good char, but it's still rare plus
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: in the middle. And then I'll throw it in the
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: oven at 475 on broil for four minutes. And that's
• 43:27
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• 43:31
  Speaker 1: You go four, four, and then you don't flip it
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: when you put it in.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: You just put it in. Okay. With full on the top. Yeah.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: My problem is.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I didn't do mine. I just seared it really quick,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: really hot black skillet.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: And I just put the black skillet in at 450
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: for five minutes. I, I, I always say the best
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: way to eat a steak is the way you like
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• 43:50
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• 43:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of sear on my meat. So when I
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: always grill mine and I grill it up off the flame,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I just don't like the sear.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I like a little sear. I put the olive oil
• 44:03
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• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I will say I have seen debates on both sides
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: of this. I don't know who's right to the point
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: that I guess I don't even think about it really.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: But a lot of people say you have to sear
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  Speaker 1: it to keep the juices in. And there are a
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: lot of people that say, nope, that is not the
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: way to do it, that it doesn't keep– I mean,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I'm talking like chefs. Yeah. They're divided on that, whether
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: you sear it.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Or not, to keep the juices in. Well, see, and
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I grilled mine forever, but I think the flavor is
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: so much better this way. Interesting.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: See, I like tasting– I grill mine over hickory, and
• 44:26
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• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the smoke. Yeah, that hickory smoke, man, that sets a
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I was going to tease, and I forgot to
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: do this before the break, Coming up, I'll explain cockfight
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: in the tub. I did not do that tease. which
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: would have been a really good tease, I thought. A
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: cockfight in a tub. Cockfight in a tub. That would
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: have kept you watching through the commercial break, right?
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think the cocks are going to like it
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: because they're not going to get any gripping.
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: I was scouring the internet and came across the cockfight
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: in the tub and decided to share it with everyone.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Give me Forrester's microphone here. Cockfight in the cup.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Cockfight. Yo. Where's that on your mind there, Donnelly?
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Cockfight in the tub. Is a football game happening this weekend?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Is that right, Forrester?
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Explain it to everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I guess the Delaware Blue Hens are taking on
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: the Coastal Carolina Chanticleers.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Which are both chickens. That's correct.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: And Delaware Stadium is nicknamed The Tub.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: It is Tubby Raymond Field.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: The Tub.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: So, therefore, we got a cockfight in the tub.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not the first time for some people. This is
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: something that is being promoted that I think a lot
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: of people want nothing to do with, right?
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I kind of like the T-shirt, to be honest with you.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of a light blue on gray.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: That's a good look, yeah. That's a lot going on
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: with that shirt. It is, it is.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Cockfight in the tub, though. Yeah, that's too– Not every
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: day you get that. Man, you get– man, I don't
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: know who to pick there. Which team is bigger?
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Who's that? Who's the favorite? Who's got the bigger cock?
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Who's the underdog?
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: Oh, what?
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Let's be, I am uncertain on something here. They are
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: the fighting blue hens, which are ladies, correct?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, no.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I've seen blue hens fight for it, too.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Me, too.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Me, too.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: God bless them. God bless them. God bless them. I'm
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: going to take the blue hens in an upset right here.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I'm with Lance. I think they're more desperate. I think
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: at that point, blue hens are more desperate. Yeah, maybe.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: The Chanticleer is a rooster.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: A fighting one, right? Yeah. Such an uppity.
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: As a student at Jacksonville State University, our school paper
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: was named the Chanticleer, so I learned very early what
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: that meant.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: It is a fighting rooster.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Did you first think it was a light fixture? I
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: really had no idea what it was when I got
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: to Jack State. Is that a smaller chandelier? The first
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: time I saw the school paper, I was like, I
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: had to sound it out. So I looked it up.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I found out what it was.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Hey, by the way, the Delaware Blue Hens are a
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: four and a half point favorite.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, there we go. Desperation. That's one thing this weekend.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: How about this thing being built at Neyland Stadium outside?
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: It's got a name now, 865 Neyland. It's the mixed
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: development that's going on that will open up in 2028,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: beautiful pictures and renderings. What's amazing about this, you'll have
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: indoor-outdoor space outside of Neyland Stadium connecting to the hotel there,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: 24-story hotel, meeting space, gathering space, and 3,000 feet of
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: LED displays and screens throughout this, gathering places to watch
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: games and everything.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: This looks fantastic. Yeah, you guys have been to Knoxville
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: for games. It's one of my favorite road trips. Yeah,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I think Knoxville is just, it's become a really, really
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: fun city, the downtown area. But, you know, back in
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: the day, you know, 15, 20 years ago, there wasn't,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: you know, you go to the Strip, O'Charlie was a
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: big thing. Like, Tennessee has needed something like this.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I would say any school that has the land available,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: any big school that has the land available, will look
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: at doing something like this, wouldn't you think?
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Like, I think specifically of Tuscaloosa. The land is there,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: but it's covered by things. I mean, you're going to
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: have to either relocate a cemetery, sorority houses, or a
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: fraternity house to do this. And then you've got roads
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: that are issues.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: We've already seen houses relocated. The cemetery's going to be difficult.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: The cemetery's going to be tricky.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: I think of Auburn.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I was playing golf yesterday with an Auburn fan that
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, it's kind of a mess to get
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: in there this year because of that south end zone renovation.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: And apparently that was kind of the area he went in,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: and he's like, you have to go all the way around.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: So it was.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: You know, they're doing that, but that's just to build
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: suites right there. But if you try to do this
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: at Auburn, there's just not the land available. If you
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: do it in Tuscaloosa, I mean, the land is there.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Like I just said, you just got to clear stuff
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: off of it. Yeah, there's always something you got to
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: clear off. Right. And, I mean, Tennessee did that.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Money talks.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: And I would imagine anybody that could do this would
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: do it. Some of the best video pops up on
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: social media. There's literally a place called Sleepy Hollow, New York.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: It's got a great golf course there.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Sleepy Hollow New.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: York has a high school, and they are called the Horsemen.
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: Uh-huh.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: And they enter their high school football games like this,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: out of the woods.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Heck, yeah.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: With a headless horseman leading the way. And if you
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: get a good look, I mean, that horseman is spot
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: on without a head there.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I assume they're peeking out of the chest plate there.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: He's got to be. But look at that. How fantastic
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: is that? That's pretty awesome.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Tyler, can you Google search the logo of Sleepy Hollow
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Horseman High School in New York?
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Now, no fans there for high school football on a
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: day game in New York. It doesn't look like cheerleaders
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: are too pumped either.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: But what an entrance there. You can imagine that. But
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: look at this logo.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's an awesome logo.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: This is one of the best logos I've ever seen ever.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: That is fantastic.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: You've got a pumpkin and a Headless Horseman logo.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: That is spot on.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah i like that hollow new york if you're watching
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: man send us gear that's good looking.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Gear texas tech meets what's the uh halloween store.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Uh do uh do sleepy hollow golf uh sleepy hollow
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: country club that's a that's a course in sleepy hollow
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: they've got a very good course logo too and this
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: is a top 100 course right they have a they
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: have a logo oh yeah Do you have.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: A coffee table book of just golf courses around the country?
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Lance, I know way more about golf than I should.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: That's a great logo, though. Don't you agree?
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: For a golf course logo?
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Okay.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Jim with a very tepid yes.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Look at that clubhouse.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Is that insane? That is out of my price point.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: You think the initiation fee is a bit high there?
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: When we come back, NFL and college football conversations continue.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: We'll do a little... Hard Rock bets buy and sell
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: on some NFL teams after week number one. A couple
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: of injuries to tell you about. Landon Dickerson is out
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: for a while with a knee. Jacoby Lane's out, wrist surgery,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: but they expect to get him back very soon. Sam
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Darnall has a different timeline, but all positive for the Seahawks.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: It's been a week since they played their week one game.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: We're almost to week two tomorrow night. And it was
• 52:21
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• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Rams played and the Seahawks played. He gets a whole
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: week of rehab before we even move out of week one.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: It's pretty good for Sam Darnold there. A little NFL
• 52:30
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• 52:33
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