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‘Beyond the Wire’: A Grassroots Perspective on Baltimore · The Real News Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to this disition of Rathering the Bids. I'm your host,
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Speaker 1: Man Smoose, a new documentary Beyond the Why, which provides
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Speaker 1: a powerful counter narrative to the Problem crime series while
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Speaker 1: it's premiering this month. Today, I'm honored and joined by
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Speaker 1: the filmmaker doctor s Fasheen. Welcome to the show, Doctors.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited
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Speaker 2: to be here.
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Speaker 1: And tell our audience about a little bit about yourself
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Speaker 1: and more importantly your background and community organizer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So my background as it relates to this work,
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Speaker 2: how I came to even being able to a point
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Speaker 2: where I'm doing filmmaking. I also share that so I
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Speaker 2: am a social scientist by socialization and training. So it
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Speaker 2: just means that I largely like study people, large populations
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Speaker 2: of people. The people that I particularly focus on, of course,
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Speaker 2: it is like my own people. I focus on black
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Speaker 2: people and the conditions that they're living in. So for
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Speaker 2: a number of years, I have done a lot of
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Speaker 2: research in Baltimore and around Baltimore focusing on some of
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Speaker 2: the conditions of black people, whether it is things related
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Speaker 2: to them, you know, graduation rates or violence or drug
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Speaker 2: use or just a parenting, just a number of different things.
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Speaker 2: All of the stuff that I was producing or creating
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Speaker 2: or writing was ending up behind like an academic paywall.
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Speaker 2: People who were in an ivory tower might be looking
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Speaker 2: at it. People who are you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 2: But it was not being able to like really connect
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Speaker 2: with the people where it matters the most. So what
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Speaker 2: I decided to do is like I want I want
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Speaker 2: the people who this is their lived experience. I want
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Speaker 2: them to be able to engage with this research, with
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Speaker 2: this knowledge, with this information. And so one of the
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Speaker 2: things that I did was look around, and I see
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Speaker 2: what we look at all the time, we looking at YouTube.
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Speaker 2: We got you know, ig were looking at videos. So
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Speaker 2: in order to get the information to research and and
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Speaker 2: and to support movements moving, my approach was to put
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Speaker 2: the information on film to make it consumable to a
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Speaker 2: wider audience, so more people would engage with the information
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Speaker 2: and the content. So that's that's actually what got me
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Speaker 2: to filmmaking specifically. Now, my interest in in the population
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Speaker 2: that I'm interested in, I mean, I'm sure that comes
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Speaker 2: largely from I'm a black person. I'm a black woman.
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Speaker 2: I live in Baltimore, city, in a black city, and
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Speaker 2: there's conditions that we that are around us that I
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Speaker 2: feel like sometimes we're experiencing, but some of us may
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Speaker 2: not necessarily have the language to articulate exactly what's going on,
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Speaker 2: and people use that to discount people because you ain't
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Speaker 2: say it in the right words, or you ain't you
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Speaker 2: know it's it's not polished in a particular way. So
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Speaker 2: one of the things that I have always wanted to
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Speaker 2: do and that I that I continue to do in
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Speaker 2: organizing spaces is I use my brain. One of the
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Speaker 2: things that I was taught very early, from a very
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Speaker 2: young age, is that my education that I have can
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Speaker 2: just be for me. Like if all I did did
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Speaker 2: was go to go to school to get a degree
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Speaker 2: so that I could get an even better job, that's
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Speaker 2: a waste. This is supposed to be for the people.
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Speaker 2: So if I'm getting knowledge and information and I've studied
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Speaker 2: and go to school, where it should show up in community.
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Speaker 2: It should show up as an effort to improve the
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Speaker 2: material conditions in the lives of people. So in terms
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Speaker 2: of organizing, I mean I have been involved in everything
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Speaker 2: from reparations marches which I'm running, the reparations things now,
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Speaker 2: the first film that I did as part of the
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Speaker 2: Baltimore Legacy project is Baltimore Still Rising, and that's a
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Speaker 2: ten year reflection on the uprising that happened after the
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Speaker 2: incident with Freddie Gray. Because another thing that's really important
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Speaker 2: right now is narrative. Narrative impacts policy. These stories impact policy.
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Speaker 2: And if you have this is why, this is what
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Speaker 2: you What you guys have here is so good, right
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Speaker 2: because you are able to inform and also shape narrative
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Speaker 2: when you have only one or a few people controlling
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Speaker 2: press or the word that get out. Malcolm X has
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Speaker 2: this quote, the news will have you hating the people.
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Speaker 1: I forgot that you talk about John Brown. He said,
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Speaker 1: you look John Brown, make John Brown look crazy? Had
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Speaker 1: you hating the very people that's about you live. But
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Speaker 1: let's talk about the project beyond the why. And we
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Speaker 1: both was talking off camera this this the while took
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Speaker 1: on a characteristic that like none of them, it was.
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Speaker 1: It competed with soabob you know, like popular so popular
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Speaker 1: things on TV. It was a pop It was became
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Speaker 1: popular like everybody was Russian Sea one. Why did you
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Speaker 1: feel the need to like and you're still going a
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Speaker 1: nerve to why do you feel the need to, like
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Speaker 1: do beyond the Wire? And two, why do you think
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Speaker 1: this specific perspective is so critical in telling the story?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? So so many times, whether I'm talking to other
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Speaker 2: Baltimoreans I or on my travels, when people learn that
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Speaker 2: you either live in or are from Baltimore, they say, oh,
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Speaker 2: the wire. And the way that they say it is
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Speaker 2: they're equating it like every time I'm walking down the street,
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Speaker 2: I'm ducking bullets or something like that. You know what
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Speaker 2: I mean. It's a way in which that particular piece
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Speaker 2: of artwork has kind of flattened the image of the
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Speaker 2: city and just flattening too. This is all this is
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Speaker 2: all we are now. They aren't the only one. They
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Speaker 2: aren't the first television show of their kind. There's also Corner.
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Speaker 2: There's also homicide, there's we own this city, There's a multitude.
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Speaker 2: But none of those have the traction of the wire.
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Speaker 2: So that's one of the things that I just really
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Speaker 2: wanted to articulate. And then I will also say I
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Speaker 2: wanted to go beyond. And this film does not say, oh,
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Speaker 2: Baltimore don't have no crime. It doesn't say you know, everybody,
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Speaker 2: this is Disneyland and everybody is safe. It's just saying,
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Speaker 2: let's tell a full story. Let's talk about how black
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Speaker 2: people got into the conditions that they got into, and
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Speaker 2: it's beyond redlining. I think a lot of our issues
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Speaker 2: tend to get flattened down into just redlining. Is that's
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Speaker 2: what happened to the city. But it seems to forget
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Speaker 2: the industrialization of the working class black men when Sparrow's
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Speaker 2: point and those things went away. They skip over the
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Speaker 2: infusion of drugs and crack cocaine and stuff in the
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Speaker 2: neighborhoods and that impact. They don't talk about the impact
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Speaker 2: of the highway to nowhere that's split up over seven
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Speaker 2: hundred different families this place, right. They don't talk about
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Speaker 2: the gentrification. They don't talk about these things. They don't
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Speaker 2: talk about how there's more investment, almost three times more
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Speaker 2: investment in white neighborhoods and white home ownership than there
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Speaker 2: is in Baltimore. So you want to come in on
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Speaker 2: a story and you're telling me the fourteenth chapter, but
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Speaker 2: you ain't tell me chapters one through thirteen of how
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Speaker 2: it got here, right. So that's why I say beyond
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Speaker 2: and why because one I want the information to be
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Speaker 2: contextualized of the conditions and also to say we are
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Speaker 2: beyond that, and the people who have come back home
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Speaker 2: are beyond that. And the people, as Brother Anthony Muhammad said,
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Speaker 2: that was once part of the problem, are now being
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Speaker 2: part of solution. And we need to talk about that more. Particularly,
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Speaker 2: this is also a historic time right now in Baltimore City,
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Speaker 2: with this historic drop in homicides, right and you have
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Speaker 2: people vying for credit. You had a mayor, you have
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Speaker 2: the state's attorney, the governor, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: Everybody want to get credit for it. But the thing
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Speaker 2: that occurs is you don't have that level of historic
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Speaker 2: drop without a collective effort. And what seems to happen
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Speaker 2: is the people who get the microphones in front of
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Speaker 2: them and the cameras in front of them, and who
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Speaker 2: have clout get to tell whatever story they want. And
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Speaker 2: so my aim and goal and interest isn't taking the
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Speaker 2: microphone and the cameras to the streets so that the
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Speaker 2: people could tell their own story. And I think that
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Speaker 2: going beyond the wire and telling some of these stories
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Speaker 2: help to do that, because the truth about how we
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Speaker 2: got this historic dropping homicide doesn't fit in a cute
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Speaker 2: little boat. How they want you to fit. They don't
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Speaker 2: talk enough about the fact that there's some boots on
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Speaker 2: the ground, soldiers if you will, that are literally stopping beef,
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Speaker 2: that are literally putting their bodies and their life on
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Speaker 2: the line to save lives. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: At that level, that's not getting enough attention for people
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Speaker 2: who they hear about a young man who a young
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Speaker 2: person might call them and say, you know, I'm about
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Speaker 2: to kill this nigga. I don't know if you'ah okay, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'm about to kill this nigga. And so when you
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Speaker 2: at two o'clock in the morning, when you're about to
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Speaker 2: do something like that, there's a lot of these they're
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Speaker 2: not up at that time. They don't get it, they
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Speaker 2: don't understand, and they're also not gonna be able to
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Speaker 2: relate in the same to the same level and degree
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Speaker 2: that a person who has lived through that has gone through.
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Speaker 2: So those type of folks are called credible messengers. And
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Speaker 2: I feel like it's really important to highlight the work
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Speaker 2: of credible messengers because the term that is largely being
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Speaker 2: co op now by nonprofits. It actually came out of
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Speaker 2: the Black Panther party. There was a person I forget
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Speaker 2: his name. I'm gonna look it up, and folks looking
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Speaker 2: who are listening in feel free to look it up.
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Speaker 2: But he started something called credible Messengers in prison, and
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Speaker 2: that was people who had lived experiences going and trying
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Speaker 2: to communicate with other people who they saw going down
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Speaker 2: a particular path, and they started keeping peace. These are
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Speaker 2: people who are now they started behind the wall peacekeeping
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Speaker 2: and now they're out here peacekeeping. So Baltimore is not
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Speaker 2: all that you see on television in that particular way.
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Speaker 2: It's not just the wire. We are so much more
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Speaker 2: than that as a city beyond the wire and.
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Speaker 1: That right there, because okay, so we got we know that.
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Speaker 1: We know just let you outline that crime is going
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Speaker 1: down not because of the city and money is being
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Speaker 1: put in the budget for police. We know that a
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Speaker 1: lot of people that's like have Muhammad say, a part
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Speaker 1: of the one time, part of the problem, in that
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Speaker 1: part solution and in that regard, a lot of people
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Speaker 1: are coming out of the system and they're going back
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Speaker 1: into their community and trying to re establish the sense
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Speaker 1: of community. But talk about in terms of how do
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Speaker 1: you how do you think the wire overall impacted the
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Speaker 1: perspective of the city because, like you say, you know,
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Speaker 1: if we if they say we're doing the Wire Marathon,
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Speaker 1: you know we ain't talking about In Baltimore, sep said
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Speaker 1: all were doing my Wild Marathon, people in California, people
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Speaker 1: in the South, people in the you know, Canada, people
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Speaker 1: in Africa, people all around the world, because they're gonna
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Speaker 1: be because of the way it was produced. Why do
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Speaker 1: you talk about that, Talk about how this present attitude
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Speaker 1: that we see in the city is countering that narrative
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Speaker 1: about this being a drug town. Because remember now up
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Speaker 1: up on North Avenue when they had all over these
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Speaker 1: and and I'm not saying that in contradiction to what
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Speaker 1: you're saying. I'm saying that we know that we have
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Speaker 1: a surge drug problem. You come up, you come out
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Speaker 1: North and pen and it's like another world all the
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Speaker 1: way down and you know, and you see it. But
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Speaker 1: so it's saying like, well, the aftermath of the wire,
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Speaker 1: this is what's been left, the remiss of the wire,
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Speaker 1: the body is the drug. Talk about how this what
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Speaker 1: we know now that is taking place that's not getting attention,
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Speaker 1: How is it changing that narrative?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I like that first part of the question too,
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Speaker 2: so and I'm gonna answer both parts where you ask
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Speaker 2: the question of how has the wire impacted the city?
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Speaker 2: Oh man, it has impacted financially, politically, emotionally, culturally in
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Speaker 2: so many particular ways, and I'll be really specific about
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Speaker 2: some of those. The narrative change is very important. Impacting
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Speaker 2: the narrative because despite the fact that crime could be
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Speaker 2: going down, youth aren't as engaged in crime as television
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Speaker 2: and news stations want to report that they are. You'll
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Speaker 2: do a poll or somebody will do a poll, and
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Speaker 2: you'll ask people they still feel unsafe. That's because of
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Speaker 2: a narrative, right. That means you could show them stats
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Speaker 2: and figures and numbers and proof, and you just showing
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Speaker 2: them like look here, or look here, this is brown.
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Speaker 2: This is brown. But if I have impacted you a motion, moly,
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Speaker 2: you're disconnected from the truth, and the truth don't even matter.
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Speaker 2: What matters is the story and the way that I'm
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Speaker 2: saying that it impacted financially is And I believe mister
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Speaker 2: Bramble was talking about this as well, he's a developer.
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Speaker 2: Is people not wanting to invest in Baltimore because of
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Speaker 2: the crime and and all of that, and looking at
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Speaker 2: these images that are portrayed on the wire. So businesses
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Speaker 2: or different things not wanting to come to the city
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Speaker 2: because of that. Why and another way it impacts us
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Speaker 2: is policy. Right, we have Maryland, despite how black it
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Speaker 2: is from the you know, we have a black mayor,
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Speaker 2: we have a black governor, we have the largest congressional
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Speaker 2: black caucus, and still we are the second I think
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Speaker 2: we only second to Alabama, but one of the states
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Speaker 2: that sends more black kids to adult prison than any
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Speaker 2: other state. But we're so black, right, So it can't
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Speaker 2: it can't just be in that like the narrative impacts
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Speaker 2: policy for us to be able to look at a
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Speaker 2: young person and just be able to automatically criminalize just
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Speaker 2: youth behavior, whether they're riding a dirt bike or they
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Speaker 2: are trying to make some money with squeege in or there.
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Speaker 2: It's just like or let's say they get in the
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Speaker 2: scruffle when they scrap, right, that's you do that when
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Speaker 2: you're young. That does not require a life sentence, you
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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, or some of these harsher sentences.
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Speaker 2: But the reason that we're that those policies are able
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Speaker 2: to get those harsher sentences. The reason that money isn't
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Speaker 2: coming into the into this space as much is because
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Speaker 2: it is a largely because of the portrayal of the image.
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Speaker 2: And what the wire did is gave the city. And
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Speaker 2: like I said, it's a good piece of art, or
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Speaker 2: it wouldn't have been effective, right, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: So it gave that image. Why is this important? It's
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Speaker 2: important because one if Baltimore don't tell it story. We've
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Speaker 2: seen time and time again, people will come and tell
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Speaker 2: the story, and the story will be told in a
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Speaker 2: way to gets them more and more dollars, right, And
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Speaker 2: people love crime and violence and sensationalism, so that impacts
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Speaker 2: their pockets, if you know what I'm saying in that
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Speaker 2: particular way. So there are folks that do benefit in
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Speaker 2: some ways from this view that Baltimore is crime written, poverty, rent.
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Speaker 2: Some newsplaces, ratings go up even higher, or it's easier
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Speaker 2: to gentrify and get people to like, oh this ain't
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Speaker 2: for me to be able to take something that I
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Speaker 2: see value in and get it at a low price.
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Speaker 2: I gotta convince you that it ain't worth nothing. And
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Speaker 2: once I convince you that it ain't worth nothing. You
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Speaker 2: gonna give it away for free, and then I take it.
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Speaker 2: I could do whatever I want, repackage it, and now
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Speaker 2: it's more money. Right. So this is a thing that's like,
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Speaker 2: it's not a new program, it's not a new approach.
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Speaker 2: It's something that folks have been doing for years. And
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Speaker 2: I feel like it's particularly done in Baltimore in a
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Speaker 2: particular way with some news entities because it's a black
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Speaker 2: lead city and it's a majority black city. And I
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Speaker 2: feel like anytime people see black lead cities, it's just
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Speaker 2: a it's it's a there's something that happens in their
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Speaker 2: mind where there's this concept of inferiority. They can't lead,
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Speaker 2: they must be corrupt. They're probably doing this.
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Speaker 1: It's called it's called institution races. There you go, bam
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Speaker 1: called flip talk talk about and uh, you know this
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Speaker 1: project right? The process of making it right? How long
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Speaker 1: did it take? Who was on the production team and
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Speaker 1: which grads organization did you choose to highlight?
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Speaker 2: Hmm. I'm gonna start with that last one first because
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Speaker 2: because I love talking about boots on the ground and
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Speaker 2: people who are doing the work. So the organizations that
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Speaker 2: are in the in the film are we are Us
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Speaker 2: with Captain Andrew Muhammad Mayor's Office of African American Male Engagement.
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Speaker 2: That office was actually started under Catherine Pugh. But the
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Speaker 2: person who is leading that right now is doctor Andre Buntley.
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Speaker 2: Peace Team is eb Peace Movement is Erica Bridgeford. There's
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Speaker 2: also challenge to change with Uncle t that is featured
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Speaker 2: in the film. And then they also highlight folks that
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Speaker 2: they are interacting with and working with, right. They highlight
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Speaker 2: folks like Lisa Molot, They highlight folks like Mama b
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Speaker 2: They highlight, they highlight other people community work exactly because
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Speaker 2: this is a collaborative, very collaborative effort. And you said
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Speaker 2: something we were talking earlier off camera that it was
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Speaker 2: just like that hits the nail on the head and
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Speaker 2: I started to see a pattern of it and that
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Speaker 2: is and again, Brother Anthony Muhammad highlighted this for me
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Speaker 2: that this is this is actually right, Uh, this is
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Speaker 2: actually a god fearing movement when you look at who
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Speaker 2: is leading it, e Mom's emams, reverence bishops. They have
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Speaker 2: people at mosque and synagogues and all of these different
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Speaker 2: places they coming together to unite and saying we want
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Speaker 2: to save lives collectively and together, and I think that
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Speaker 2: that's a very important part to a very important thing
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Speaker 2: to include. So those are the folks in the organizations
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Speaker 2: that are in it, the production of it. So the
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Speaker 2: first the first, So I'm thinking about all of the videos. Look,
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Speaker 2: one of the first people that I talked to that
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Speaker 2: is in the film is I talked to them at
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Speaker 2: twenty four. Yeah, so I started having conversations with people
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. I also want to shout out
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Speaker 2: Ray Kelly, who's over the Citizens Policing Project, who's also
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Speaker 2: in the film. So I started talking to them then.
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Speaker 2: So I actually thought that I had a good solid
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Speaker 2: amount of people together, and I had had all of
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Speaker 2: the information together and went through the first round of
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Speaker 2: edits and I watched it and I was like, hmmm,
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Speaker 2: something is missing, And what was missing were more of
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Speaker 2: the boots on the ground because I wanted to hear
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Speaker 2: more about the story about how are you saving lives,
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Speaker 2: how are you transforming the conditions. And I'm so grateful
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Speaker 2: for Captain Andrew who made a lot of the connections
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Speaker 2: for me. He connected me to e B. I want
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Speaker 2: to shout out Davon love of leader, Leaders of a
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Speaker 2: beautiful struggle. He connected me to j T and Rocca.
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Speaker 2: So so that those credible messengers connected me to other
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Speaker 2: people like, oh, you should talk to this person, should
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Speaker 2: talk to talk to this person. And so that was
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Speaker 2: how how I got a lot of them involved.
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Speaker 1: And you know what I remember. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you knew Leon for U, but Leon For he was
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Speaker 1: actor in Maryland prison. He was out and I could come.
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Speaker 1: He started the incredible message. He so when he got out,
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Speaker 1: he was doing a lot of organizing Muslim And so
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Speaker 1: I'm in Supermax and the warden of the Supermax always
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Speaker 1: knew each other. So he he walked by, said well
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Speaker 1: you I ain't gonna say nothing to him, you know.
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Speaker 1: So he came back, said you think I'm gonna leave
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Speaker 1: without talking to you. So we had this kind of relation.
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Speaker 1: And so he was telling me about Leon Far. He said,
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Speaker 1: you know, he said remember leon For. I said yeah.
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Speaker 1: He said, well, Leon Ferou is taking a whole block
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Speaker 1: and getting Muslim families to renovate that block. So this
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Speaker 1: is a Christian pastor. So he said that and Leon
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Speaker 1: was like they were they was doing with like right
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Speaker 1: on the other side of where his church at. He said,
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Speaker 1: I never thought about that. I think I'm gonna do
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Speaker 1: the same thing. To go back to your point, is
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Speaker 1: that and I think that's the I think that's the
20:56
Speaker 1: to take away. I want my always take away from
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Speaker 1: this now is this. Okay, we're saying beyond the why,
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Speaker 1: but we're saying that this is Baltimore when people tap
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Speaker 1: into networking, community organizing and building a sense of community.
21:10
Speaker 1: Baltimore had at one point in time. We talked about
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Speaker 1: this off camera, but they had what they call clean Block.
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Speaker 1: And clean Block was a thing that every community in
21:20
Speaker 1: Baltimore City, all quadrants, North, South, East, and West Baltimore
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Speaker 1: got involved in the Affro newspaper work highlight the cleanest block,
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Speaker 1: and people really wanted to get that be known for that.
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Speaker 1: But what they were really known for was having a
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Speaker 1: clean community, having a sensor community. You couldn't come on them.
21:38
Speaker 1: Community in the neighborhoods don't do you know anything. So
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Speaker 1: this is being real statisfied. Beyond the whiy, we talk
21:43
Speaker 1: about where can people go to watch the documentary and
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Speaker 1: what final thoughts you would have you would like to
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Speaker 1: leave our audience.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the world premiere of the documentary will be
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Speaker 2: June eighteenth at the Senator Theater at seven pm. There's
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Speaker 2: an on Or premier that will also be at the
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Speaker 2: Senator Theater at seven pm. That's on June twenty fifth.
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Speaker 2: So the first one, the eighteenth, is sold out, but
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Speaker 2: tickets are still available for the one on the twenty fifth.
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Speaker 2: If folks are interested, I would suggest they get their
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Speaker 2: tickets now. It's already over five hundred tickets sold, just
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Speaker 2: to let y'all know. Next year, the plan is for
22:22
Speaker 2: it to be able to be streamed because a lot
22:24
Speaker 2: of people who are from Baltimore but have moved away
22:27
Speaker 2: have asked, I'm not in town no more, but I
22:30
Speaker 2: really want to see this film about my city. How
22:32
Speaker 2: can I see it? So when it's streamed, I'm definitely
22:35
Speaker 2: gonna make sure that I let people know.
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Speaker 1: If people want to touch base, would you support you?
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, please support please because this is community, community supported,
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Speaker 2: community funded, so that yeah, I will tell you that
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Speaker 2: I feel like I've gotten this far with it because
22:57
Speaker 2: I bet on Baltimore and the thing that I would
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Speaker 2: leave with some of the things that I would leave
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Speaker 2: with people. If you're if you're trying to do something
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Speaker 2: if you are actually authentic, because people could read that
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Speaker 2: real quick. If you're actually authentic, if you're not just
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Speaker 2: coming in and trying to extract from it to get
23:14
Speaker 2: what you want for your own personal self. I feel
23:16
Speaker 2: like Baltimore will support you, and I will continually each
23:20
Speaker 2: time bet on Baltimore, and every time I bet on Baltimore,
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Speaker 2: I win or we win rather so are really grateful
23:27
Speaker 2: for that? What was the other part of the question, Oh,
23:30
Speaker 2: kind of grit and get in contact. Right. So this
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Speaker 2: film is part of the Baltimore Legacy Project. So if
23:38
Speaker 2: you go to all of the w's you know how
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Speaker 2: I go Baltimore Legacyproject dot com on ig it is
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Speaker 2: Baltimore Underscore Legacy Underscore UH project And if you go
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Speaker 2: on there, you'll be able to see information about this film.
23:57
Speaker 2: You'll be able to see the faces and the names
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Speaker 2: of the people who are on the crew, and you'll
24:02
Speaker 2: also see some of the artists that are in the film.
24:06
Speaker 2: Easy Jackson he has a song called be Great. I
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Speaker 2: Want You to Be Great that's in the film. Chaotic
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Speaker 2: Culture provided music. Y n CU provided music. We Are
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Speaker 2: Us has a song that's in there. Erica Bridgeford has
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Speaker 2: a song. This is a very Baltimore.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely Baltimore.
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Speaker 2: Definitely very Baltimore, very Baltimore film. So those are how
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Speaker 2: to get in contact Baltimore Legacy Project dot com and
24:32
Speaker 2: also go to ig at Baltimore Underscore Legacy Underscore Project.
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Speaker 1: Nina Simone said, Oh, Baltimore. And I'm gonna tell you,
24:38
Speaker 1: I did a lot of time in prison, and the
24:42
Speaker 1: majority of my time I did I did in Maryland Penitentia,
24:46
Speaker 1: and I came to know that baltimoreans I can't to
24:49
Speaker 1: know the people, and Baltimore people are the most loving people,
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Speaker 1: giving people and carrying people. If you paint the nargive
24:57
Speaker 1: that they vicious and savage, then that's what you're gonna
24:59
Speaker 1: get in with turn. But when you paint the narrative
25:02
Speaker 1: as Rachen has painted, that this is beyond the Wild.
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Speaker 1: This is the Baltimore. This is the Baltimore that supports
25:10
Speaker 1: projects like just Beyond the Wild. And we asked that
25:14
Speaker 1: our audience, you know, look at this and mainly if
25:17
Speaker 1: you're Baltimore, you know, like when they threw the hat
25:20
Speaker 1: up when they had the fight down in Mississippi where
25:23
Speaker 1: they was at, they threw the hat up the rally
25:25
Speaker 1: the people. Then throw your hands up and rally the
25:27
Speaker 1: people around this film so you can see what this
25:29
Speaker 1: film is about. But more importantly, you can get a
25:31
Speaker 1: better perspective of your city. Your city is not what
25:35
Speaker 1: you see every day abandoned miny. Your city is not
25:37
Speaker 1: what you see every day people stand on the corner.
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Speaker 1: Your city is people actually doing Iron's work, Squeeze kid.
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Speaker 1: Your city is actually people that real created, riding motor bikes.
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Speaker 1: Your city is all these things. If you invest in
25:49
Speaker 1: these things, you'll see the flower and see Baltimore go.
25:53
Speaker 1: Thank you, Raschen, thank you for having me. And we
25:55
Speaker 1: asked our audience to continue to support the Real News
25:58
Speaker 1: and Rally Bible because guess what we're actually the news.
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Speaker 2: I said, listen, I believe it. I see it like