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The IU Report with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (2.231.3) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back, I you fans, through a big edition of the IU report that I grant Shows with my cut soul and Greg Mangel of Coursion.
• 0:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mike, this is a big day for Indiana basketball, at least the day that we're recording this.
• 0:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: The week that this is coming out, the portal is finally bringing some good news to Indiana basketball and on Monday picked up three big commits, Marcus Burton for Notre Dame, Jaden Muistoff from Georgia Tech and then also Darian Harris.
• 0:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: from Duke as well and kind of these are guys where I think it's a contrast from last year we're Indiana wanted to kind of go the mid-major out kind of make a mid-major all-starting.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: This just didn't really work.
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you got to go and get guys that have played in and tower five programs and have played in established programs and could be adding eight in Cheryl here soon from Alabama.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Significant minutes for Alabama, he's projected the ultimate Dick Indiana.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So these are guys on teams, especially Burton and Moostoff who
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Played on teams that haven't been successful, but had played power-five basketball for majority of their career.
• 1:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: You kind of bring these guys together in Indiana and trying to fuse them together to get it.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you've got guys who, they're on court success at the collegiate level, may not be there, but the pedigree looks good.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: the projections look good and, you know, in Burton's case, when healthy, he's been really, really affected player.
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about a kid from Indiana, a Penn guy, Mr. Basketball, Notre Dame was eight and two right thing last year when he broke his ankle, and the season just completely fell apart from there now.
• 2:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: it may have still fallen apart.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Notre Dame was not particularly good last year, but he is about a 20 point per game guy for Notre Dame when he went down.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He did miss time as a freshman with a knee injury.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So he's got two seasons under it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: under his belt, but he's been injured in both of them.
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a little bit of a concern.
• 2:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Indiana hasn't had a lot of guards like him.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The Lamar Wilkerson was a good score last year, but not necessarily a creator.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Burton seems like a guy who can put the ball on the floor when needed and get to the basket and also knock down shots and he's a really good free throw shooter on top of it all.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: The other two moose stuff looked eight out of the last 10 games last year.
• 2:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Georgia Tech, he scored in double figures, wasn't a particularly great shooter, but we good shooter at the foul line.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was going to the line six, seven, eight times a game at a game where he got there 12 times.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So obviously a guy that Indiana hasn't had an athletic wing, probably a plus defender on the wing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We know that was a struggle.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They gave up so many
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So adding some athleticism and a predictable outside shot, he's not necessarily there yet, but he did improve as the season went on from three.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like he's an 18% three-point shooter.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the last guy Harris from Duke, a bit of an unknown.
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was a top 40 kid coming out of high school, but
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: We know how goes a dude, one thing they never lack is talent.
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you get behind certain guys at Duke, you probably aren't going to be on the floor very much.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And this year, he was behind some really, really good players.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't score a lot.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Only average about three points a game.
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: But does his film show somebody who's a pretty capable shooter?
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you look at who he was in the end, I was competing with for him.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like it was
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  [SPEAKER_01]: A10 schools or anything like that, it was between Indiana and Virginia, which was the second place team in the ACC last year.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they went out, they got guys that they didn't get last year, power four guys, guys who have produced at the P4 level, others have projectibles that show they can produce at that level.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Last year, the only guy they got from a power four program was the coach's son and he
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: eight games at West Virginia before he sat out with his shoulder injury.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody else was, you know, Connor and Wright was a big East kid.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Nick Dormless from Elon, Sam Alexis was from Chattanooga.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Reed Bailey was Davidson.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a different way of going about it.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're not playing money, but all trying to spread the money out as much of this year.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: It seems like it seems like they're trying to get some height.
• 5:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I end guys in with this first run, and then they'll fill the roster out from there.
• 5:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm telling you right now, if they get Cheryl, that's a guy that Duke looked at, that's a guy that...
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Michigan State would love to get.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's from Detroit, and he played.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was one of the best shot lockers in the SEC last year.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's not a bad conference.
• 5:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're to say that about.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So with the lack of on-gourd success and portal success last year, you can argue this is one of the best days of Darren DeVries 10 year at Indiana.
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Alright, when the news about Harris originally came about, I was like, oh great, a guy that barely played on a really good Duke team and then I thought about what you said about when you sit behind guys that are going to be playing 82 games in the NBA next year for a majority of the college season.
• 5:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: probably become a better player from that, and I'm excited about that one.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm particularly, of course, excited about Marcus Burton, just because he's from Indiana.
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: He won Mr. Bass, well, he actually won Mr. Basketball, the year I graduated high school and crazy that him and I are the same age, but he's different from what Indiana had last year, Indiana didn't have a Marcus Burton.
• 6:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't have a true primary point guard.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: You could make the argument for Tate and Conorway, but I thought that Burton was probably is probably better than Conorway.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Again, like you said, Mike, he can probably put the ball on the floor and create and make things happen.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm going to talk about him.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then also, when you take into effect of what they're returning, next year, was this leaves coming back with a year of college under his belt.
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: uh... you have uh... top thirty uh... high school recruit in prints newty Alexander so you have experience coming back and you have a solid true freshman that's going to be coming in and then you factor in like we mentioned earlier eight inch arrow who all signs point that he's probably coming to indiana as well over from Alabama
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a good start, you know, better late than never, right?
• 7:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the portal opened up last week and took Indiana about a week to start landing guys.
• 7:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, again, better late than never, but it seems like Indiana's kind of off to really get start in the portal so far.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be interesting to see, you know, they get through this initial wave and if they lay in Cheryl, I'm not calling it a done deal yet, hopefully by the time this pod hits it is.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: if it's not, we don't know, but I'm really interested to see where they go from there.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some of the guys you heard maybe is secondary options in the portal, Finley Bizjack, the kit from Butler, he signed with West Virginia today, so some of, I want to see how they fill out the roster, if they get these guys in, they've got a point guard, if they get a big, they've added a couple of wings.
• 7:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to need some more size of the red shirt from Bosnia, a sum of it.
• 8:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: She decided to go to the portal.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's down to Trent Sizzley, Sicily, and nobody else from last year added data.
• 8:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so we're replacing everybody.
• 8:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've got freshmen that probably can contribute at some point, but to count on them to be any more than.
• 8:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: spot players kind of like what Sicily was for most of this year before he went and went into hiding at the end of the year getting more than that is a little bit optimistic so you're still going to need to fill shooters get another big banner too but they came seem to go in this year with a plan last year it was scrambled though they knew they had the coaches sun they were fighting
• 8:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: But after that it was like, okay, who can we get because we didn't really see or hear Indiana connected to too many people Ryan Conwell that went away quick He was coming from Xavier and he visited and people started thinking maybe he comes to Indiana He was at level like 20 minutes after he visited Indiana
• 9:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Dicks from Iowa.
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, maybe we can get this note and he was as craten.
• 9:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there was just no real Momentum or plan it seemed last off season and it was I think because the coaching staff came together late and They didn't have the GM in place like they do now, so
• 9:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: They kind of hit this year with maybe a little bit more of a game plan, then you saw last year and so far so good, but I'm really going to see how they finish it out.
• 9:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're right that there wasn't a plan and now that you've taken this initial year to get it under your belt and figure out what you need and how this is going to work, that's why I think all signs point to it being a more improved season next year, hopefully.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: not coming in and making an immediate impact like you would all hope that, I mean, I don't want to say that it's unrealistic because we quite literally have seen it in another sport at Indiana, but for Indiana basketball, and then you need to lower your expectation down from that you're going to hire the right, you know, you're going to hire the coach and
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to come in and immediately turn it around and make an impact.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just different.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I, you football was kind of a rare case of that.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So people want to point fingers at the guy and say that, oh, it's first year, it wasn't great and maybe it wasn't.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it could have been a whole lot worse.
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: It could have been worse, but I think the concerning that myself and a lot of the fans had was not only did they not get
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: top guys out of the portal, the evaluations that they had on guys just seems so bad.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they have been a lot of us.
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that as I think Reed Bailey was probably the third highest paid guy that they had in their portal class and he just wasn't
• 11:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't big tin caliber big man.
• 11:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was a perfectly fine A-10 scoring big man, but he could not, he was not strong at the basket and Taiton Connerway.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: that was kind of a miss because he was supposed to think be the perimeter defender, the breakdown guy, but he just was so sloppy and loose with the basketball.
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the guys that I think that they had the highest hopes were and then you had, let's face it, you had two red shirts, a freshman and Sicily, and then you can't necessarily help it, but you had guys who never saw the slow Drake.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: There is those guys in the clinic and you sat there.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So hate all these guys, you wasted my time.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
• 11:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, good on them and I'm not going to fault a kid and I'm, you know, if he was hurt, he was hurt.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Jason Drake just took the bag from the end of it and I don't know what they paid him.
• 12:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even if it was 300K, which doesn't seem like a lot in an IL standards these days, but if that's what he got,
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: or if you got a hundred k that's still good money for a junior in college to not play a minute of basketball.
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: a lot of a lot of missed evaluations and I think that's was the most frustrating thing for Indiana fans last year.
• 12:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: By the end of the year, you were playing about five and a half guys and they were hanging on by a string and the string.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me ask you this question, Mike, if your job paid you $100,000, basically not do anything, would you take it?
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: You take that, it's like, yeah, I'm sitting here making $100,000 just to be injured, not a bad trade-off, I think.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's unfortunate that it has to be that.
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey guys, thanks so much for your time, let's do it again next week, let's preview the spring game, what you guys want to see from that and make our predictions where all the
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited for that one.
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to the spring game, so I think being opportunity to get a good look at Indiana, in the off season, of course, that's basically just a open practice.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: But we'll see, I'm excited for it.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just remember one thing I've always said about spring games, Diane.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: If the offense looks great, it could be because the defense was.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I will take that into account, but all I do know is that Josh Huber's two new best friends are a really good defense and a really good run game, and that all the Notre Dame people on Twitter are saying that Indiana's back down to reality.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's nine and three as the new reality I'll take, and yep, and I appreciate it.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Championship or bust of league.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: The Symptor only in the Stortford port is a product of IQG media.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I want to eat.