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Full Show Podcast: 23 October 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight.
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  Speaker 2: Francesca Rudkin on Early Edition with Spark for Business.
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  Speaker 1: Technology that keeps business moving. Newstalk ZB. Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Early Edition. I'm Francesca Rudkin filling in for
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Bridges this morning. Coming up on the show, we
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  Speaker 3: discuss ACT's charter school policy. We find out what to
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  Speaker 3: expect from New Zealand's largest and longest running pop culture
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  Speaker 3: convention taking place this weekend, the Armageddon Expo. and Barbara
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  Speaker 3: Edmonds on yesterday's inflation figure. You're most welcome to contact
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  Speaker 3: me any time this morning. You can flick me a
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  Speaker 3: text on 9292 or email me at francesca at newstalkzb.co.nz.
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  Speaker 3: It's Friday the 23rd of October. The cyber security scare
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  Speaker 3: is still gripping many parts of the world this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Millions of websites around the world were unavailable after a
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  Speaker 3: vulnerability was found in the website's PHP programming language.
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  Speaker 4: Someone leaked the details of this potential flaw and that's
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  Speaker 4: what started a frenzy in the cybercrime world where they
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  Speaker 4: were using AI to vibe code, as we call it,
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  Speaker 4: make up their own way of using the PHP flaw
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  Speaker 4: to exploit cyber systems.
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  Speaker 3: Another barrage of Russian missile attacks have hit the Ukraine's capital.
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  Speaker 3: This comes only hours after Vladimir Putin agreed to fresh
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  Speaker 3: peace talks.
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  Speaker 5: President Zelensky has just given a statement on social media
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  Speaker 5: saying immediately after the latest negotiations, Russia delivered a demonstrative strike.
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  Speaker 5: This means that their attitude towards everything that is happening,
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  Speaker 5: there's been no real change.
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  Speaker 3: To the UK, where Barclays Bank is cutting 5,000 jobs
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  Speaker 3: in its latest bid to increase efficiency. And it's all
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  Speaker 3: about AI and the continued rise of online banking.
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  Speaker 6: Barclays alone, for example, has closed 800 high street branches
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  Speaker 6: since 2018. There were just 206 left now. So it
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  Speaker 6: is that wider move, but they are bracing themselves for
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  Speaker 6: the budget next week.
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  Speaker 5: Banks are right in the firing line.
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  Speaker 6: The surcharge on banking profits was reduced a few years
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  Speaker 6: ago from 8% to 3%. The Chancellor is expected to
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  Speaker 6: reverse that.
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  Speaker 3: And finally to the US, where one of Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 3: rallies was interrupted by a protester. They were screaming the
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  Speaker 3: president was a war criminal before his supporters punched and
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  Speaker 3: tackled him to the ground. And the president seemed impressed.
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  Speaker 1: The guy stood up.
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  Speaker 7: And he just let that little and he got whacked. Man,
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  Speaker 7: they don't realize it's really dangerous to do that.
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  Speaker 1: It takes you got to give credit.
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  Speaker 7: It takes courage to do that in a Trump rally.
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  Speaker 1: He got whacked.
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  Speaker 7: Just he started, you know, that screech, whatever the hell
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  Speaker 7: they do, whatever they practice.
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  Speaker 8: And as he's in the process of the screech, he
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  Speaker 8: got whacked.
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  Speaker 3: It's nine past five. So if you haven't already enrolled
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  Speaker 3: to vote or changed your details, of course you have
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  Speaker 3: until midnight Sunday, that's the 25th of October, and then
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  Speaker 3: you're out of luck. Now the stated reason for a
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  Speaker 3: change to the enrolment requirements was that an increasing number
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  Speaker 3: of special votes takes longer to count. Nationals Paul Goldsmith
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  Speaker 3: said at the time when the changes were announced, late
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  Speaker 3: enrolments have placed too much strain on the system. The
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  Speaker 3: final vote count used to take two weeks. Last election
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  Speaker 3: it took three. If we left things as they were,
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  Speaker 3: it would likely take even longer. But does it really
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  Speaker 3: matter when an election is as tight as this and
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  Speaker 3: MMP creates a time-consuming and complex negotiation period? Neither national
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  Speaker 3: leader Chris De Valuxen or Labour leader Chris Hipkins have
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  Speaker 3: promised that coalition talks will wrap up before Christmas. This
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  Speaker 3: enrolment changes. They might make the process easier for the
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  Speaker 3: Electoral Commission to manage post-November 11th, but it's starting to
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  Speaker 3: look a little bit like a rort. When you have
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  Speaker 3: a tight election, we want to be encouraging as many
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  Speaker 3: eligible voters to get in the booth and have their
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  Speaker 3: say as possible. Thomas Coughlin wrote an interesting piece in
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  Speaker 3: the New Zealand Herald. He said, removing the on-day enrolment
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  Speaker 3: and voting, it mostly affects Labour voters and younger voters.
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  Speaker 3: And he observed Labour candidates spending more time enrolling people
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  Speaker 3: on their door knockings rather than persuading people to vote
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  Speaker 3: for them. When it comes to a major party campaign
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  Speaker 3: strategy to get voters enrolled and make sure they understand
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  Speaker 3: the changes, then you have to wonder whether the Electoral
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  Speaker 3: Commission has done a good enough job informing all of
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  Speaker 3: New Zealanders of the changes. It's not really the party's
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  Speaker 3: job The enrolment figures for 18 to 24 year olds
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  Speaker 3: are terrible. And I know if you can't be bothered
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  Speaker 3: getting organised, then maybe you don't deserve a vote. But
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  Speaker 3: I know plenty of uni students who are in stress
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  Speaker 3: mode right now. They're finishing lectures, preparing for exams, finding flats.
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  Speaker 3: A lot will have finished exams before November the 7th
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  Speaker 3: and be heading home, making sure that they're enrolled or
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  Speaker 3: enrolled at the correct address. Might have just slipped off
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  Speaker 3: the list. Either way, not sure less special votes to
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  Speaker 3: count is going to get us a result and a
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  Speaker 3: government any quicker. Keen to hear your thoughts, you can
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  Speaker 3: text on 9292. You're with Early Edition.
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  Speaker 2: The Early Edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZV.
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  Speaker 1: Before the news breaks, hear it first.
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  Speaker 2: Francesca Rutkin on Early Edition with Spark for Business, technology
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  Speaker 2: that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 1: Newstalk ZV. It's 13 past five.
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  Speaker 3: The ACT Party are pledging to quadruple the number of
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  Speaker 3: kids enrolled in charter schools. By 2029, they want 10,000
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  Speaker 3: names on the roll. Currently, there's over 2,000. Seymour says
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  Speaker 3: he'd like to see a charter school option for every
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  Speaker 3: major township in the country. Patricia Simeon is the principal
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  Speaker 3: of Pakaraka School, the first state school in the country
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  Speaker 3: to transition to a charter school, and she joins me now.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Patricia, do you like the sound of more charter schools?
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  Speaker 9: Um.
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  Speaker 10: I see that it's just the first time I heard
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  Speaker 10: about it yesterday. I don't follow sort of the New
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  Speaker 10: Zealand news at the moment. That's a good question. What
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  Speaker 10: I would like to see is communities having more say
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  Speaker 10: about how their children or how their tamariki are being taught,
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  Speaker 10: having a choice. and seeing all tamariki having a good education,
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  Speaker 10: you know, that suits their learning needs and their learning styles.
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  Speaker 3: So is it about every major town having a charter
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  Speaker 3: school or us looking at the community and listening to
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  Speaker 3: the community and putting them where they're wanted?
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  Speaker 10: I think it's listening to the school communities, to the
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  Speaker 10: schools and finding where the needs are.
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  Speaker 3: What does a charter option offer that you can't get
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  Speaker 3: from mainstream?
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  Speaker 10: It offers the flexibility to deliver a curriculum that sets
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  Speaker 10: the needs of the school community. You know, you have
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  Speaker 10: iwi-based charter schools. I know there's a classical studies charter school,
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  Speaker 10: you know, so obviously there's a need for a different
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  Speaker 10: way of teaching or a different education that suits, so
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  Speaker 10: that parents have a choice.
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  Speaker 3: If you take a look at your community, who is
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  Speaker 3: most in need of a charter school? Who should we
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  Speaker 3: be catering these schools to? What kind of student do
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  Speaker 3: they help?
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  Speaker 10: Um, They have a huge variety, but it sits with
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  Speaker 10: the parents and what they want for their child. For
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  Speaker 10: our community, it was a holistic, child-centred approach. It was
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  Speaker 10: about connection through nature. It was through play, imagination, purako.
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  Speaker 10: It was through hands-on practical activities that what our community
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  Speaker 10: saw in our kura that they wanted more of and
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  Speaker 10: we're able to give them that through the.
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  Speaker 3: Charter school process. Thank you so much for your time
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  Speaker 3: this morning, Patricia. Nice to talk to you. Dame Judy
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  Speaker 3: Dench has given an interview to the BBC. We all
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  Speaker 3: love Dame Judy Dench, don't we? She has talked about
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  Speaker 3: the challenges of her worsening eyesight. She was diagnosed with
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  Speaker 3: age-related cancer. macular degeneration in 2012, and it is taking
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  Speaker 3: its toll.
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  Speaker 7: I can't be on stage. I can't do a play anymore.
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  Speaker 7: I can't do a film anymore. I can't read anymore.
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  Speaker 7: So you've got to adjust to all that and make
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  Speaker 7: allowances for it and just get on and don't think
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  Speaker 7: about it too much.
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  Speaker 3: She also isn't a fan of ageing at all. Is
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  Speaker 3: ageing any good, Judi Dench?
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  Speaker 11: Ageing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, would you recommend it?
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  Speaker 9: Rubbish.
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  Speaker 5: Go on.
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  Speaker 9: Why?
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing to say, Fred, at all. Nothing at all.
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  Speaker 9: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Don't think about it too much. There we go. There's
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  Speaker 3: some positive, motivating words for you on a Friday morning.
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  Speaker 3: Up next, though, it is time to get your cosplay organised.
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  Speaker 3: The Armageddon Expo is hitting Auckland this long weekend. We're
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  Speaker 3: going to find out what to expect. It is 17
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  Speaker 3: past five.
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  Speaker 2: The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for the text. Sorry, Francesca, people have had
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  Speaker 1: nine months to enrol, not just this. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: the text.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, Francesca, people have had nine months to enrol, not
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  Speaker 3: just this week. It is ridiculous to suggest there hasn't
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  Speaker 3: been time. Let's also not forget that enrolment on the
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  Speaker 3: day only came in at the last election. Good point.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like it's been enshrined in history and we
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  Speaker 3: managed before. Thanks, Kirsten. For God's sake, Francesca, if they
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  Speaker 3: can't get off their butt to do a simple enrolment process,
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  Speaker 3: stuff them. They could provide KFC vouchers. That should do it. Look,
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  Speaker 3: I agree with you on that point. The point I'm
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  Speaker 3: trying to make is that the original reason that they
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  Speaker 3: gave us for making the changes isn't going to come,
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  Speaker 3: isn't right, isn't correct. It is still going to take
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  Speaker 3: a huge long period of time for us to get
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  Speaker 3: a government. If you didn't know, this weekend is Christmas
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  Speaker 3: for nerds, the cool nerds. Armageddon Expo is returning to
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  Speaker 3: the Auckland showgrounds. They've got multiple members from the cast
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  Speaker 3: of the TV show Supernatural, plus stars from the Alien franchise.
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  Speaker 3: and even High School Musical. Bill Gerartz is the founder
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  Speaker 3: of Armageddon and joins me now. Good morning, Bill.
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  Speaker 9: Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: What are you most excited about this weekend?
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  Speaker 9: I mean, to be honest, I'm an absolutist. The whole thing.
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  Speaker 9: The whole thing. Because I've been living with this for
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  Speaker 9: over a year. I mean, this is a year of
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  Speaker 9: our life of planning. I mean, we're well underway for
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  Speaker 9: next year's show already. So it's... We get the excitement
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  Speaker 9: of knowing who's coming early and then making sure it
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  Speaker 9: happens and then seeing this thing become reality. And yesterday,
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  Speaker 9: just walking on the floor, the displays and the exhibitors
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  Speaker 9: that are there, it's just... It's an incredible feeling for
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  Speaker 9: me to be able to just see the whole thing
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  Speaker 9: come together. So... I know for a lot of other people,
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  Speaker 9: it'll be a specific celebrity that they'll want to do
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  Speaker 9: or there'll be a gaming thing they want to do
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  Speaker 9: or just the event itself or just a fun day out.
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  Speaker 9: But what we try with the event is to be
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  Speaker 9: a bit of everything so that there's not, while there's
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  Speaker 9: generally one thing people want to do, there's a lot
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  Speaker 9: of things they end up doing.
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  Speaker 3: 31 years into these events. Do you still get nervous though?
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  Speaker 9: Yep. I said to somebody the other day is that
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  Speaker 9: I've been doing this. I'm 55, so I've been doing
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  Speaker 9: this for three-fifths of my life, and I still feel
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  Speaker 9: like a week out that, like, is this actually going
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  Speaker 9: to happen? Are we still going to be able to
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  Speaker 9: do this? Is it not going to fall to something's
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  Speaker 9: going to happen and we just won't be able to
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  Speaker 9: do the show at all? And I get that feeling
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  Speaker 9: every show. There's a level of uncertainty, and it always does.
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  Speaker 9: It always happens. It always goes through.
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  Speaker 3: It always works out in the end, doesn't it, Bill?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, it does.
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  Speaker 3: Festivals and retail are feeling the pinch of the cost
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  Speaker 3: of living crisis. Does that make its way to you
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  Speaker 3: guys as well?
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  Speaker 9: You know, I would have thought so, but honestly, not
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  Speaker 9: at all. Not at all. We've had the best year
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  Speaker 9: we've ever had. And I couldn't really tell you why.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, when we did our Wellington show earlier this year,
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  Speaker 9: I thought, OK, we'll get good numbers. People will turn up,
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  Speaker 9: but the people won't spend anything. They won't really be,
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  Speaker 9: you know, it's Wellington feels like the government's been squeezing
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  Speaker 9: it to death. So I thought, OK, this is not
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  Speaker 9: going to be the resources there. And it was a
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  Speaker 9: cracker of a show. Every show we've done has been
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  Speaker 9: one of our best shows. And I'm saying when I
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  Speaker 9: say best shows, I'm talking in our history. Last year's
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  Speaker 9: October show was one of our biggest shows, and this
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  Speaker 9: year's tracking to be about the same. So I couldn't
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  Speaker 9: tell you why, though, beyond– I heard a thing, and
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  Speaker 9: I don't want to be political, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 9: drag it into it a little. I heard a thing
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  Speaker 9: from one of the ACT guys, and he was bagging
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  Speaker 9: a beneficiary who was getting a tattoo. And he was like, oh,
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  Speaker 9: they can afford to get a tattoo. They shouldn't be
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  Speaker 9: on a benefit, something like that. And that's a whole
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  Speaker 9: separate thing. But for me, when I listened to that,
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  Speaker 9: I was like, you know, you've probably got somebody who's
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  Speaker 9: just getting by and needed something to enjoy, needed something
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  Speaker 9: that was theirs that they were like, I want this
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  Speaker 9: tattoo because it's going to make me feel good about myself.
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  Speaker 9: And I think that Armageddon falls into that kind of
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  Speaker 9: thing where even when your money's tight, even when times
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  Speaker 9: are tough, you still need to enjoy life. You still
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  Speaker 9: need to go to a movie. You still need to
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  Speaker 9: eat out. You might be a bit more particular about
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  Speaker 9: what you do, but you're still going to get out
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  Speaker 9: there and Otherwise, what's the point of doing anything? And
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  Speaker 9: I think the show is such a celebration of mixed
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  Speaker 9: events and entertainment and just unique things that you cannot
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  Speaker 9: do anywhere else that people just will go, I'm going
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  Speaker 9: to this. This is going to be the thing we're
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  Speaker 9: going to. We're going to plan for this. I'm going
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  Speaker 9: to save for it, and we're really going to have
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  Speaker 9: a blast.
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  Speaker 3: Get the costumes organized and good to go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Bill, really?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah. Or if you're not in the costume, you're there
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  Speaker 9: to see people in the costume.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 9: It's that whole experience.
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  Speaker 3: Bill, really nice to talk to you this morning. Best
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  Speaker 3: of luck with Armageddon this weekend. It's 27 past five.
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  Speaker 3: Education Minister Erica Stanford's education overhaul has been impressive this
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  Speaker 3: government term. We're seeing improvements in primary school student achievement.
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  Speaker 3: The NCEA qualification is not long for this world. And
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  Speaker 3: how good is it to have cell phones out of
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  Speaker 3: the classroom? But for all the changes, there are families
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  Speaker 3: that feel the system simply doesn't work for their child,
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  Speaker 3: whose needs, interests or circumstances may not fit comfortably within
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  Speaker 3: a conventional classroom. Yet when someone suggests trying something different,
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  Speaker 3: we can become remarkably attached to doing the same thing
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  Speaker 3: and hoping for a different result. That is why charter
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  Speaker 3: schools deserve a fair hearing. As a parent of a
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  Speaker 3: child with a brilliant, complex, neurodivergent mind who loves to
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  Speaker 3: learn but struggled with the mainstream school environment, This is
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  Speaker 3: music to my ears. In order for our child to
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  Speaker 3: complete her education, we went down an alternative route. No
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  Speaker 3: one was more surprised than we were. It was hugely
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  Speaker 3: expensive and prohibitive for most, but it was brilliant and
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  Speaker 3: our kid who was falling out of school is now
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  Speaker 3: doing a science degree at university. Charter schools will hopefully
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  Speaker 3: give more families struggling with children in similar situations the
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  Speaker 3: same opportunity. It is life-changing. For a young person who
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  Speaker 3: has all but given up on education, it could be
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  Speaker 3: the beginning of a future that might otherwise have quietly disappeared.
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  Speaker 3: Labour leader Chris Hipkins opposes charter schools. We should give
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  Speaker 3: all our schools the tools they need to cater for
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  Speaker 3: all of the kids who come through the gate, Hipkins
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  Speaker 3: said yesterday, and it is an admirable ambition. But is
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  Speaker 3: it the reality? Teachers regularly describe classrooms stretched by complex
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  Speaker 3: learning needs, behavioural challenges and inadequate support. Most mainstream schools
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  Speaker 3: do a wonderful job, but not every child learns the
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  Speaker 3: same way, responds to the same environment or thrives under
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  Speaker 3: the same structure. A practical, culturally grounded or more flexible
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  Speaker 3: approach can be the difference between disengagement and achievement. There
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  Speaker 3: are legitimate concerns about charter schools. Public money must be protected,
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  Speaker 3: teaching quality maintained and private operators prevented from putting profit
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  Speaker 3: ahead of pupils and independence must never mean a free pass.
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  Speaker 3: Transparent reporting, financial audits, measurable achievement targets and the power
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  Speaker 3: to terminate contracts are essential safeguards. But if those checks
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  Speaker 3: and balances are enforced, why should every school have to
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  Speaker 3: follow precisely the same model? Charter schools are not a
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  Speaker 3: replacement for mainstream education. They're another tool in the kit.
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  Speaker 3: New Zealand children are not all the same. So why
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  Speaker 3: insist that the education must be? So keen to hear
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  Speaker 3: your thoughts. 92.92 is the text. We'll be back shortly.
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  Speaker 2: The Early Edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by
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  Speaker 1: Technology that keeps business moving. Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 3: This is Early Edition on Newstalk ZB. I'm Francesca Rudkin.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for being with us. Bit of U2 for you here.
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  Speaker 3: Haven't heard from them in a while. It's just been
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: announced they're going to play the halftime performance at the
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Thanksgiving NFL game. This is Netflix. They're just throwing in
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: halftime performances wherever they can. Anyway, the performance will follow
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  Speaker 3: shortly after the release of the band's first album of
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  Speaker 3: new material in nine years. So hopefully that's good news
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  Speaker 3: for all you U2 fans out there. Coming up this hour,
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  Speaker 3: fair to say inflation rate for the September quarter was
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: pretty much what was expected, but the dip is thought
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: to be short-lived, so we're going to talk to Barbara
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Edmonds about how Labour is planning on bringing inflation down,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: and we get to the bottom of why a French
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: president has called comments by foreign leaders on the French
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: riots as unacceptable as they are stupid. Thank you very
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: much for your feedback. Planes are full, concerts are sold out,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: there's no cost to living people, just like moaning and
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: blaming someone else, the government itself. For something, it's a
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: media beat-up. Hi there. My view is the Electoral Commission
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: has done a great job of promoting the change of
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: enrolment rules, TV, social media, etc. People have had many
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: months to enrol. It's a quick online job and many
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: young people are glued to a device. Thanks, Tony. And
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: from Andy, hi. Far too much common sense in your
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: exploration of the role and value of charter schools for
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Hipkins and Labour to understand. Keep the feedback coming. You
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: can text on 9292. It's 22 to 6. All right,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: let's head around the country now and joining us from Dunedin,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Callum Proctor. Good morning, Callum.
• 19:45
  Speaker 12: Morning, Francesca.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: So Dunedin residents are becoming less satisfied with their council.
• 19:51
  Speaker 12: Yeah, this is according to the latest residents' opinion survey,
• 19:53
  Speaker 12: which is out here, and it shows overall satisfaction has dropped.
• 19:57
  Speaker 12: It's sitting at 41% here now, so that's down from 48%.
• 20:01
  Speaker 12: Last year, just 30% believe they're getting value for money
• 20:05
  Speaker 12: out of their council. That's down from 35%. While satisfaction
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: with the mayor and councillors overall has dropped five points
• 20:12
  Speaker 12: to 25% in the last year. We've spoken to Councillor
• 20:16
  Speaker 12: Brent Witherell. He says the behaviour of some representatives is
• 20:19
  Speaker 12: casting a shadow over their entire council table. He says
• 20:23
  Speaker 12: good work is being lost amongst the noise, which is
• 20:26
  Speaker 12: unfair on ratepayers. Of course, the council's been in headlines
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: due to the conduct of Councillor Benedict Ong.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: And Dunedin's weather today, Callum?
• 20:35
  Speaker 12: Another good day today. Morning cloud been fine. Nor'easter developed
• 20:38
  Speaker 12: to the high 23 today.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Sounds good. Thank you so much. Clare Sherwood is in Christchurch. Clare,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: it's the end of an era at Christchurch.
• 20:46
  Speaker 13: Christchurch NZ.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is indeed.
• 20:49
  Speaker 13: Yes, Chief Executive Ali Adams is leaving Christchurch NZ. That's
• 20:53
  Speaker 13: our economic development agency here after five years in the role. Now,
• 20:57
  Speaker 13: she steps down to become Pro-Vice-Chancellor at the University of Nottingham.
• 21:01
  Speaker 13: That is her hometown, which is nice for Ali. She
• 21:04
  Speaker 13: does describe her time at Christchurch NZ as being the
• 21:07
  Speaker 13: privilege of her life. Adam says she's most proud of
• 21:10
  Speaker 13: the momentum Christchurch built in that time, describing it as
• 21:14
  Speaker 13: something that's hard won but easily lost. She says looking forward,
• 21:17
  Speaker 13: the city shouldn't take the foot off the gas, despite
• 21:20
  Speaker 13: others envying the progress, saying there's still plenty.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Of work to do. Nor'wester heading today, Clare?
• 21:26
  Speaker 13: Sure is. Morning cloud as well then. Should be fine.
• 21:29
  Speaker 13: We're on our way to a high of 18.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Have a good long weekend. Lachie
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Rennie is in Wellington. Good morning.
• 21:34
  Speaker 11: Good morning.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: A shake-up within the Wellington City Council.
• 21:37
  Speaker 11: Yeah, so Mayor Andrew Little has announced a reshuffle and
• 21:40
  Speaker 11: assigned portfolios to councillors to help deliver its triennium plan.
• 21:45
  Speaker 11: Former MP Greg O'Connor, fresh to the council, has been
• 21:48
  Speaker 11: appointed Deputy Chair of the Council Controlled Organisation Review Subcommittee,
• 21:52
  Speaker 11: while also slotting into the Regular Processes Committee and the
• 21:55
  Speaker 11: Revenue and Financial Working Group. Nuruddin Abdurrahman is now the
• 22:00
  Speaker 11: Deputy Chair of the Regulatory Processes Committee, replacing the late
• 22:04
  Speaker 11: Tony Randall. Little says the organisation has a clear focus
• 22:08
  Speaker 11: looking ahead.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, and Wellington's weather today, Lockie?
• 22:11
  Speaker 11: Yeah, so it's fine apart from some morning clouds and
• 22:13
  Speaker 11: light winds and afternoon sea breezes. It's currently 10 with
• 22:16
  Speaker 11: a high of 21 today.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, sounds divine. Thank you, Lockie. And Neva Ritimana was
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: in the Auckland studio. Good morning.
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: Good morning.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Prehistoric experience in Auckland from tomorrow for dinosaur lovers.
• 22:27
  Speaker 14: Yes, I've just learnt something new here because in the
• 22:30
  Speaker 14: news I know nothing about dinosaurs but this story apparently
• 22:33
  Speaker 14: is huge, it's big.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you know something about dinosaurs.
• 22:36
  Speaker 14: No, I don't but everyone else in there in the
• 22:37
  Speaker 14: newsroom they do know. They're telling me they're rattling off
• 22:40
  Speaker 14: their favourite dinosaurs back in the day. So this is
• 22:43
  Speaker 14: five Triceratops fossils. Now, they're making their southern hemisphere debut.
• 22:49
  Speaker 14: This exhibition is happening tomorrow. We're at the Auckland War
• 22:53
  Speaker 14: Memorial Museum. It's running until April, displaying these dinosaurs uncovered
• 22:57
  Speaker 14: in the US state of Wyoming.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't realise.
• 22:59
  Speaker 14: I said, well, what kind is these Triceratops fossils?
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: What are they?
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: So apparently they're.
• 23:04
  Speaker 14: The three-horned ones. But everyone in there, they were rattling off.
• 23:06
  Speaker 14: They were going, This is blah, blah, blah, Andrew Dickens.
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: Andrew Dickens.
• 23:10
  Speaker 14: Andrew Alderson knew everything about it.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: He goes, well.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Andrew Dickens would have known all about it too. Oh,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: he would have too.
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: Takes one to know one, dinosaurs.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Anyway, there you have it. Do you get excited though
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: by a fossil?
• 23:21
  Speaker 15: No.
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: I don't.
• 23:24
  Speaker 14: I've got to be. It's a terrible thing to say.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Why do you?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: I think it's intriguing.
• 23:30
  Speaker 16: Oh, yes.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: You know, like, yeah, it's a little mind-blowing, really, when
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: you start thinking about time and, you know what I mean?
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: Yes, that's right.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: It's like, wow.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: But it doesn't really blow my mind.
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: Like, would I be going.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: To an exhibition?
• 23:41
  Speaker 10: I'll probably.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like you need to.
• 23:44
  Speaker 14: I think I'll be the only one in Auckland that
• 23:47
  Speaker 14: won't be. There'll be queues.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Auckland's weather today?
• 23:50
  Speaker 14: I'm more interested in that. Cloud breaking up this morning,
• 23:53
  Speaker 14: then becoming fine early afternoon. A high of 20. I'm
• 23:56
  Speaker 14: losing the plot. Happy Friday.
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: That's why.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Happy Friday.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Well, it's the eve of a long weekend. Everyone's very excited,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: aren't they? Slightly losing it. Thank you so much, Neva.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Next off, we're off to the UK. Peter Anderson is
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: with us. It is 17 to 6. Joining us now.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Is our UK and Europe correspondent, Peter Anderson. Good morning, Peter.
• 24:22
  Speaker 15: Francesca, good morning.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: The cybersecurity floor still impacting government services in the UK,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: is that correct?
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
• 24:30
  Speaker 15: Dozens of UK government services have been offline as officials
• 24:35
  Speaker 15: are looking to address the major flaw in the programming
• 24:38
  Speaker 15: language PHP, which powers almost 70% of websites globally. According
• 24:43
  Speaker 15: to government ministers, in total, we've had 32 UK government
• 24:46
  Speaker 15: services offline worldwide. and four others have also been partially unavailable.
• 24:52
  Speaker 15: And comments circulating online here in the UK suggest everything
• 24:56
  Speaker 15: from vehicle registration services to local government websites have been
• 25:00
  Speaker 15: affected by these ongoing problems. Number 10 Downing Street, the
• 25:04
  Speaker 15: office of the Prime Minister, insists that work has already
• 25:07
  Speaker 15: taken place across government to identify and fix potential exposures
• 25:13
  Speaker 15: to the systems. And it says its experts are working
• 25:15
  Speaker 15: closely with international partners– And the government has also revealed
• 25:20
  Speaker 15: that its National Cyber Security Centre has made 50,000 proactive
• 25:25
  Speaker 15: notifications to businesses and to other organisations on what action
• 25:29
  Speaker 15: they should take. And the government, while calling this the
• 25:32
  Speaker 15: scale that is unprecedented, has insisted there are no indications
• 25:36
  Speaker 15: at the moment of any successful breaches of computer systems.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: And do they know how long it will be before
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: all services are up and running?
• 25:45
  Speaker 15: Absolutely not and I think that's an issue that's not
• 25:48
  Speaker 15: just here in the UK. What we've seen in recent
• 25:51
  Speaker 15: hours is problems being reported across Europe from Germany and
• 25:54
  Speaker 15: France through to Finland with services and businesses being affected
• 26:00
  Speaker 15: and I think the big question is how quickly they
• 26:03
  Speaker 15: can remedy the situation and that seems a long way
• 26:05
  Speaker 15: off at the moment.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Peter, Emmanuel Macron is very upset with some foreign leaders.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: He believes that they're exploiting the riots in France with
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: some of the comments that they're making.
• 26:15
  Speaker 15: Yeah, last weekend, as you'll remember, Francesca, there were 550,000
• 26:20
  Speaker 15: people protesting on the streets of France. And there were many,
• 26:23
  Speaker 15: many arrests. Indeed, we've seen 217 people already jailed over
• 26:28
  Speaker 15: the disorder and 2,700 people being arrested and 1,000 appearing
• 26:34
  Speaker 15: in court. Well, there are concerns that there will be
• 26:36
  Speaker 15: more protests, more rioting this weekend. And Emmanuel Macron, the
• 26:41
  Speaker 15: French leader... has criticised foreign leaders for exploiting the situation
• 26:47
  Speaker 15: for electoral purposes. Interestingly, he hasn't named the leaders, but
• 26:52
  Speaker 15: many people are seeing it as a swipe at people,
• 26:55
  Speaker 15: including Donald Trump in the United States and Benjamin Netanyahu
• 26:59
  Speaker 15: in Israel. And what we've heard from Emmanuel Macron is
• 27:02
  Speaker 15: that he says foreign leaders are in campaign mode. He's
• 27:06
  Speaker 15: been busy himself meeting up with intelligence services and ministers,
• 27:10
  Speaker 15: and he's attacked foreign in France, far-left groups and other
• 27:14
  Speaker 15: politically motivated groups for trying to make political points. And
• 27:18
  Speaker 15: this all comes, Francesca, just a few months before the
• 27:21
  Speaker 15: French presidency is up for grabs with elections scheduled in
• 27:25
  Speaker 15: France next April and May.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Peter, nice to talk to you this morning. Thank you
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: so much for your time. It is 11 to 6.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Inflation is down for the year to September. The official
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: CPI number came in at 3.7%, down 0.4%. But economists
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: reckon that this is a brief reprieve before we start
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: seeing the effect of the second wave of fuel price shock.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Barbara Edmonds is Labour's finance spokesperson and she joins me now.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Thanks for your time this morning, Barbara.
• 27:54
  Speaker 16: Good morning, Francesca.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Is 3.7% good in context?
• 27:59
  Speaker 16: So it is out of the band. And as you
• 28:01
  Speaker 16: just said, economists are expecting inflation to go up. The
• 28:06
  Speaker 16: pre-election fiscal update, when the books were open just before
• 28:09
  Speaker 16: we started really campaigning, that also shows that inflation is
• 28:13
  Speaker 16: projected to go up, stay up for a little bit longer,
• 28:15
  Speaker 16: as well as unemployment. So this all has a flowing
• 28:19
  Speaker 16: impact into the rest of the economy.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Does it work against you that there's a dip in
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: inflation right before the election?
• 28:26
  Speaker 16: Well, overall, you've got to look at the bigger picture.
• 28:29
  Speaker 16: And the number one issue New Zealanders are saying is
• 28:31
  Speaker 16: the cost of living is really biting them hard. You know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 16: when National in 2023, they said they promised to fix
• 28:37
  Speaker 16: the cost of living. But we're now in debate after
• 28:40
  Speaker 16: debate after debate. There's still no plan around the cost
• 28:43
  Speaker 16: of living.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: The dip, as you mentioned, thought to be short-lived. I mean,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: we're being warned that global fuel and diesel prices are
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: widely predicted to remain tight and elevated well into 2027.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: So what would you do to bring inflation down? by
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: this time next year?
• 28:57
  Speaker 16: Well, I think the first point is that the irony
• 29:00
  Speaker 16: of the National Party blaming international fuel prices, when we
• 29:03
  Speaker 16: were talking about that too, when inflation was higher as
• 29:06
  Speaker 16: well under our term, they just batted it off and
• 29:08
  Speaker 16: they said, well, you need to do more. So what
• 29:11
  Speaker 16: it comes down to us is that you need to
• 29:13
  Speaker 16: lift wages in order to meet those inflationary pressures. and
• 29:17
  Speaker 16: also provide some cost of living relief. So we've obviously
• 29:19
  Speaker 16: got a big suite of cost of living policies, like
• 29:24
  Speaker 16: fairer grocery prices, free GP visits. Something that will really
• 29:28
  Speaker 16: help in the transport space is public transport fare caps,
• 29:31
  Speaker 16: you know, $ 20 in the main centres and $ 10 everywhere else.
• 29:35
  Speaker 16: We're not going to be able to stop what's happening
• 29:38
  Speaker 16: in Iran. You know, obviously there's a conflict. that's happening there.
• 29:41
  Speaker 16: It is impacting on fuel prices. So what do we do?
• 29:44
  Speaker 16: We need to help the New Zealanders here and to
• 29:47
  Speaker 16: be able to deal with those cost of living pressures,
• 29:49
  Speaker 16: which includes part of it is inflationary.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Would pausing tax, the fuel tax, not just, is that
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: a good idea or is that just going to kick
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: higher prices down the road a couple of years later?
• 30:01
  Speaker 16: Well, I think for many New Zealanders, there will be
• 30:03
  Speaker 16: some relief to them that their petrol prices aren't going
• 30:05
  Speaker 16: to go up by 25 cents in the next few years.
• 30:09
  Speaker 16: Labour has committed to freezing that fuel increase because those
• 30:12
  Speaker 16: are the types of levers that governments can actually pull.
• 30:16
  Speaker 16: So we do believe we have a better plan to
• 30:19
  Speaker 16: help with the cost of living.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: The other contributors to inflation was construction industry, electricity, council rates,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: international airfares. Is there anything that government can do within
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: these industries to make a difference?
• 30:31
  Speaker 16: Well, the central and local government charges, that's up in
• 30:34
  Speaker 16: the last three years by 27.2%. So, you know, when
• 30:38
  Speaker 16: you think about those sorts of charges, it is around rates,
• 30:41
  Speaker 16: it's around the charges that government puts on the user or,
• 30:46
  Speaker 16: you know, charges and administration for government services, etc. So
• 30:50
  Speaker 16: there are some areas where we can look at, such
• 30:53
  Speaker 16: as fuel tax freezes, because that would be part of
• 30:56
  Speaker 16: a government charge as a tax. But the main thing
• 31:00
  Speaker 16: that we're focused on is providing that cost of living
• 31:03
  Speaker 16: relief because we can't control what's happening overseas. So what
• 31:06
  Speaker 16: do you do to help people here today and tomorrow
• 31:10
  Speaker 16: with the cost of living pressures that they're under? And again,
• 31:13
  Speaker 16: National promised to fix it.
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: But they haven't.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Electricity's a cost of living issue. The price of electricity.
• 31:21
  Speaker 16: Yes, and we've got a really good solar saver policy
• 31:24
  Speaker 16: to help more people be able to put solar panels
• 31:27
  Speaker 16: on their roofs. community batteries to make it cheaper for
• 31:30
  Speaker 16: those in the surrounding areas to bring down their electricity prices.
• 31:35
  Speaker 16: And that includes businesses who can apply for that too.
• 31:38
  Speaker 16: So we have a real opportunity to transition New Zealand
• 31:42
  Speaker 16: more away from dependency on those fossil fuels where we
• 31:46
  Speaker 16: can and bring down those energy prices. And SolarSaver, our package,
• 31:51
  Speaker 16: is one of the ways to be able to do that,
• 31:52
  Speaker 16: to be able to offer low-interest loans through ICA and
• 31:56
  Speaker 16: through them accessing, for example, a rates assistance scheme to
• 32:00
  Speaker 16: help bring down their power prices.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: There is some good news for Costa Living, Barbara. The
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: olive oil, butter and veggies are cheaper. It's got to
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: be good.
• 32:09
  Speaker 16: Yeah, it's cheaper in the sense that the increase is
• 32:11
  Speaker 16: not as large, but there's still the price plus a
• 32:14
  Speaker 16: little bit more. And if you've got a family of
• 32:18
  Speaker 16: 10 like mine who love butter, yeah, it's still costly.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Trying to bring some positivity before a long weekend, Barbara,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: but really nice to talk to you. Appreciate your time
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: this morning. Thank you so much. And thank you very
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: much for your text. 9292 is the text. Francesca, I
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: agree with you 100% about charter schools and it is
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: yet another David Seymour success. If Hipkins can't see it
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: and still wants to get rid of them, then he's
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: a fool and deserves to lose his job. Thank you
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: so much. Mike Hosking is in the studio next. It
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: is six to six.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: The news you need this morning and the in-depth analysis.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Early edition with Francesca Rutkin and Spark for Business. Technology
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: that keeps business moving.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Mike Hosking is in the studio. Good morning.
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: Good morning.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Nice to see you.
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: Can I just confirm for you in listening to that
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: Barbara Edmonds interview that if I go out and get
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: a community battery, somehow that's going to fix my inflation rate.
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: Is that what she was saying? I couldn't quite understand that.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: You put solar on your house.
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: If I put solar on my house, so first of all,
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: I'm borrowing money.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Cost that up.
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: So I've got to pay for that. And so once
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: I've paid for that and borrowed the money, plugged into
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: my community battery, is that down the road? So is
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: that like in a neighbourhood? What's a community battery?
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: In my street, you can't even connect to the storm race.
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: What I found interesting, we've got Nicola Willis on. So
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: what I found interesting about yesterday is that everyone's fixated
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: about oil, which is fair enough. But the real problem
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: in the figure yesterday was rates, airline travel, which you
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: can do something about. You don't have to travel by air.
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: Rates and, of course, the power expenditure in getting us
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: to this utopia of renewables.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: And it doesn't look like anything's going to change. Airlines
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: in Europe are saying prices are going to go.
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: Up by 20% in 2027.
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: 100%.
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: So it's a fascinating debate. And whether, of course, anyone,
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: you know, 3.7%, whether anyone actually blames the government. I mean,
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: it's the same all over the world. It doesn't matter
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: where you go in the world at the moment. Inflation
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: is a problem. So anyway, Nicola Willis on that. We'll
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: go to the F1 in Austin, Texas. Fantastic.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Sounds brilliant. Have a great weekend. Have a great show, Mike.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: And I will see you on Sunday morning at 9am.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Take care.
• 34:27
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• 34:30
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