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The Late Debate | 12 September · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, good evening. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer
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  Speaker 2: and Caleb Bond coming up. Joe Biden supporting Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: Hard to believe. We've got the evidence and we'll show
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  Speaker 2: you a little bit later. Plus, when we look at
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  Speaker 2: the papers, and Islamic group with ties to a sheik
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  Speaker 2: who said that he was elated during the October seven
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  Speaker 2: attacks on Jews, they've been invited to apply for government
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  Speaker 2: funding of course, and self funded retirees set to pay
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  Speaker 2: more for aged care. All of that when we get
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  Speaker 2: to the papers. But first, what's that old expression there
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  Speaker 2: are three certainties in life, death taxes And Queensland Premier
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  Speaker 2: Stephen Miles posting cringe videos his latest video posted to Twitter. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it's actually worse than cringe. It's absolute gas lighting. Before
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  Speaker 2: we show you the video, let me just explain the background.
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  Speaker 2: Last year, the Queensland Labor government new legislation allowing men
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  Speaker 2: to self identify as women, and so in the process
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  Speaker 2: they reduced womanhood to a feeling that anybody can have.
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  Speaker 2: They made women's spaces redundant and women's sports ridiculous. So,
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  Speaker 2: with all of that in mind, Queensland Premier Stephen Miles
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  Speaker 2: has quite a hide to post this video captioned gangs
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  Speaker 2: all here to protect women. He's kind of making me,
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  Speaker 2: Miss Daniel Andrews. The videos is the question. If you
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  Speaker 2: farm you're going to protect women, you should at least
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  Speaker 2: you know what a woman is. In that video standing
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  Speaker 2: beside Stephen Miles is his Minister for Women, Shannon Fentermen. Now,
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  Speaker 2: of course she's the Minister for Women promising to protect women.
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  Speaker 2: If only she knew what a woman was.
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  Speaker 3: It's be inclusive.
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  Speaker 4: Anyone that identifies as a woman is a woman, And
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  Speaker 4: as the Minister for Women, I take a really inclusive
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  Speaker 4: approach and we want to govern for all queens Angels
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  Speaker 4: that all people who identify as a woman are part.
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  Speaker 1: Of our policies and strategies to advance gender equality.
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  Speaker 2: So the Queensland Labor Premier Stephen Miles is tweeting that
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  Speaker 2: the gang's here to protect women. Let me show you
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  Speaker 2: just how committed he is to women in his state.
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  Speaker 2: We'll just show you the original tweet here it is
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  Speaker 2: on screen, will put it up for you. So there
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  Speaker 2: it is the Gangs here to protect women, looking very
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  Speaker 2: serious and so a prominent woman in Queensland who campaigns
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  Speaker 2: for women's rights, thought, well, since he's offering to protect women,
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  Speaker 2: I'll contact him and request a meeting. Sally Grover replied
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  Speaker 2: on Twitter. I'm a Queensland woman. I'm happy to meet
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  Speaker 2: you to have a conversation about how to protect women.
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  Speaker 2: Allowing us to be a sex class in law that
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  Speaker 2: men cannot identify into is the start of that conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's a fairly polite request for a meeting. After all,
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  Speaker 2: Stephen Miles is boasting he's there to protect women. So
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  Speaker 2: fair enough. And here is Stephen Miles's reply to that request.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, he blocked her. Caleb, what on earth
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  Speaker 2: is going on? Stephen Miles cannot be serious?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, come on, Stephen Miles protecting women. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: trust him to protect a locked door, for Heaven's sake.
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  Speaker 5: It puts a whole new complexion.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, I thought there was We were playing to click
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  Speaker 1: there again.
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  Speaker 6: I've just got the music.
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  Speaker 5: The music through me because it's that bloody tunes, like
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  Speaker 5: a bee buzzing you anyway, it's when should I twain saying?
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  Speaker 1: Man, I feel like a woman. It puts a whole
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  Speaker 1: new complexion. It doesn't.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, when I previously said, man, I
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  Speaker 5: feel like a woman, that usually meant I wanted to date.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, but a bit the hide on this bloke.
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  Speaker 5: He knows he's about to lose the election next month,
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  Speaker 5: and it's almost like, well, they don't care anymore, just
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  Speaker 5: throwing absolutely anything out there for the opportunity to seem
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  Speaker 5: like they're doing something, as if anyone's watching that video
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  Speaker 5: going ah, yes, this is the bloke I want to
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  Speaker 5: protect me as a woman with the woman standing next
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  Speaker 5: to him who doesn't even know what a woman is like.
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  Speaker 1: Please.
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  Speaker 5: Politicians are just nerds in suits, and they prove.
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  Speaker 1: It again and again, very unhead. Well, yes it may
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  Speaker 1: well be way.
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  Speaker 5: Does no one say to them the staff in their
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  Speaker 5: offices whatever that presumably come up with these ideas, Oh
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  Speaker 5: maybe this isn't going to work so well, like do
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  Speaker 5: they employ absolute duffers?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they employed enough staff. Surely someone would have seen
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  Speaker 2: that was a bad idea. Surely Stephen Miles and his
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  Speaker 2: team would have thought.
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  Speaker 7: Nah, this is please.
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  Speaker 4: I want to speak to his media advisors because I
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  Speaker 4: used to be one myself.
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  Speaker 7: Not Stephen Miles, he'd be doing a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot better shall we say if I.
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  Speaker 1: Were we think you were a man.
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  Speaker 4: But you can't protect woman if you can't define what
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  Speaker 4: a woman is, which is made very clear by his
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  Speaker 4: own Minister for Women and Queensland has form in this area.
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  Speaker 7: Correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 4: But weren't they the first state to approve you changing
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  Speaker 4: your birth certificate and other official documentation to say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a woman now. I was born a man, but
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  Speaker 4: now I'm a woman. And as we've seen at the
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  Speaker 4: Olympics and other international places, if your documentation says you're
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  Speaker 4: a woman, then everyone just uses that as an excuse
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  Speaker 4: to say, well, we can't question this because their official
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  Speaker 4: documentation says that they're a woman. Can't argue with that.
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  Speaker 4: Now they're officially a woman. What I'm wondering is how
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  Speaker 4: on earth we ever put this.
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  Speaker 7: Genie back in the bottle? If ever?
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  Speaker 4: We saw today Senator Pauline Hansen putting up a proposal
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  Speaker 4: just to recognize biological sex, just to say, can we
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  Speaker 4: as a nation in our federal Senate recognize biological men
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  Speaker 4: biological woman and stand up for the rights of both sexes.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, it was comprehensively voted down the second she'd
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  Speaker 4: stop talking. That is, after the usual culprits screamingly accused
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  Speaker 4: her of being a bigot and a transphobe and all
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  Speaker 4: the rest of the usual adjectives. This just seems to
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  Speaker 4: have flown the coupe, and it is, let's be honest,
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  Speaker 4: something that the vast majority of Australians do not support.
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  Speaker 7: If we were to go to the polls on an.
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  Speaker 4: Issue like this and say, okay, in our country, do
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  Speaker 4: you think that biological men who want to be seen
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  Speaker 4: as women should be recognized as such in law? I
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  Speaker 4: am sure that we would come back with a resounding no,
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  Speaker 4: because as much as it's frowned upon and even punishable
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  Speaker 4: nowadays to say so, when you go to the polls,
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  Speaker 4: it's private, and it would be very clear in any
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  Speaker 4: kind of polling that people aren't up for this at all.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right though, once you've put this in
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  Speaker 2: law and you've allowed people to change their birth certificate.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, could you imagine any politician saying he's going
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  Speaker 2: to wind this back? The left would go absolutely mental
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  Speaker 2: and it's like trying to unscramble an egg. And maybe
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  Speaker 2: there'll be a day where someone will do it, but
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  Speaker 2: there's now not just one or two laws that would
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  Speaker 2: need to be changed, there would be dozens of pieces
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  Speaker 2: of legislation that would need to be amended. And then
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  Speaker 2: what do you do with someone who says, well, I'm
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  Speaker 2: legally recognized as a woman. You know, this whole argument
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  Speaker 2: about being erased, and so that would go to a
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  Speaker 2: whole other level if you ever tried.
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  Speaker 1: We did have.
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  Speaker 4: A small win a couple of years ago where Medicare
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  Speaker 4: changed woman to birth in persons on some form and
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  Speaker 4: the outcry from mothers which bill shortens.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's to give credit where credits.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know that he led it, but he
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  Speaker 4: certainly then changed it.
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  Speaker 7: Quit smart.
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  Speaker 4: The backlash was so severe. But what it takes is
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  Speaker 4: especially those of us in the media making.
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  Speaker 7: Such a farraw.
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  Speaker 4: At the time, the public is alerted to the fact, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you've had your forms changed you and they can take action.
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  Speaker 4: But as it is most everyday people are too busy
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  Speaker 4: working their job, living their lives, putting food on the
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  Speaker 4: table to pay attention to what's going on in our
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  Speaker 4: houses of parliament. And they've just passed these bills Willy
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  Speaker 4: nearly on an unsuspecting public that then finds out about
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  Speaker 4: it long after that ship has sailed.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, go on so so, then after all of this conversation,
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  Speaker 2: coming back to Stephen Miles video, then he's got the
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  Speaker 2: front to act like, oh, we're doing things to protect women,
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  Speaker 2: and anyone who challenges him on the most basic issue
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  Speaker 2: of what's the definition of a woman, he won't even
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  Speaker 2: have a conversation.
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  Speaker 5: He locks them, of course, and look for heaving the
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  Speaker 5: bloke's down in there saying that he'll protect women. He
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  Speaker 5: might have forgotten that he took the job of premier
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  Speaker 5: away from a woman. You weren't doing much to protect
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  Speaker 5: women then? Were your buddy's speaking of women who want
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  Speaker 5: to be leaders?
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  Speaker 1: Kamala Harris.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, we saw the presidential debate yesterday between former
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  Speaker 5: president Donald Trump and current bar president would be president
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  Speaker 5: Kamala Harris. And look a lot of people walked away
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  Speaker 5: from that saying it was a good day for Harris
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  Speaker 5: because she managed to get through the thing without too
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  Speaker 5: many word salads. And there's some new polling out today
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  Speaker 5: that shows it did exactly nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Who would have thought.
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  Speaker 5: So this is a poll from Ledger in the United States,
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  Speaker 5: and they did find that half of the respondents to
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  Speaker 5: this poll who watched at least some portion of the
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  Speaker 5: debate on the ABC said that Harris was the winner,
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  Speaker 5: so they rated her better than Trump twenty nine percent.
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  Speaker 5: Trumb As too, twenty nine percent said that Trump had won.
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  Speaker 5: Thirty percent said that neither candidate had won. But when
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  Speaker 5: you drill into the numbers of where the presidential things
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  Speaker 5: are sitting at now, it's still only fifty percent saying that.
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  Speaker 5: And I say only fifty percent, but it's fifty percent
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  Speaker 5: saying that they would vote for Kamala versus forty seven
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  Speaker 5: for Trump, which is about what it was prior to
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  Speaker 5: the debate.
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  Speaker 1: So this has not turned the dial. What's soever.
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  Speaker 5: As I said last night on Credlin, that's why immediately
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  Speaker 5: after the debate, Kamala's campaign and said out, well, you know,
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  Speaker 5: let's have a second debate, because they knew that she.
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  Speaker 1: Did all right.
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  Speaker 5: If they thought she had done really badly, they wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: ask for another debate. If they thought she'd done really well,
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  Speaker 5: they wouldn't have to ask for another debate. They realized
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  Speaker 5: very quickly that that wasn't going to change anyone's mind.
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  Speaker 1: Trump did what Trump does.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone expected Trump to perform much like he performed yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: Kamala did a little better than expected, but certainly not
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  Speaker 5: enough to change anyone's mind. They need another debate to
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  Speaker 5: try and move hearts and minds, because, of course you're
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  Speaker 5: not dealing here with people who are going to vote
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  Speaker 5: Democrat or are going to vote Republican.
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  Speaker 1: You're trying to.
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  Speaker 5: Get undecided or perhaps even people who are not going
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  Speaker 5: to vote to come out to the polls, and nothing
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  Speaker 5: that she did yesterday changed that view whatsoever.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 4: In CNN Zone polling, the question they asked in this
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  Speaker 4: particular one was after the debate, who would you most
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  Speaker 4: trust with the economy now? Prior to the debate, Trump
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  Speaker 4: was already leading in that poll. After the debate, he
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  Speaker 4: was leading by a much bigger margin. So people can
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  Speaker 4: see through the fact that this woman is capable of
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  Speaker 4: ninety second well rehearsed speeches that somebody else wrote. Keep
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  Speaker 4: in mind, that's the rules of the debate. You don't
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  Speaker 4: get to speak for much longer than that. So all
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  Speaker 4: we really saw was like, oh, she can actually do
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  Speaker 4: well in the space of ninety seconds, well rehearsed and
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  Speaker 4: written by somebody else. But that also tells people watching
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  Speaker 4: that's what you're gonna get if she becomes potus, just
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  Speaker 4: a well rehearsed actress blurbing out the lines that somebody
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  Speaker 4: else has written. And after the years of a Biden
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  Speaker 4: administration in which that poor old bloke was doing the
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  Speaker 4: same and everyone was wondering who's really in charge, you
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  Speaker 4: got to know you're just going to get more of
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  Speaker 4: the same if Kamala gets the hot seat. As I
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  Speaker 4: said last night, I don't think that the debate was
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  Speaker 4: going to change anything. That's before we saw it reflected
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  Speaker 4: in the polls. Kamala is still the establishment picked backed
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  Speaker 4: by the neo cons Trump is still the outsider, backed
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  Speaker 4: by everyone who's willing to stand up to the empire.
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  Speaker 7: And that's what we saw reflected in this poll.
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  Speaker 2: I think Kamala Harris won the debate only to the
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  Speaker 2: extent that Donald Trump didn't put her away. That's the
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  Speaker 2: extent which she won. And even if you give her
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  Speaker 2: the debate and say, okay, Kamala Harris won the debate.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of top the polls, the southern border is
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  Speaker 2: still leaking, inflation is still high, homes are still too costly,
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  Speaker 2: crime is still skyrocketing. But she won the debate, So
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  Speaker 2: you know, take your win and run with it, I suppose,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not changing anyone's mind. The other thing I
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  Speaker 2: thought that was interesting from the New York Post report
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  Speaker 2: was that the debate with Joe Biden, fifty one million
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  Speaker 2: viewers watched that, but sixty seven million watched this debate
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  Speaker 2: with Harris. Forty two percent of people who watched the
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  Speaker 2: Biden debate reckoned it was a good argument, a good,
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  Speaker 2: good debate, but sixty percent of those who watched this
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  Speaker 2: one said it was a good debate. So I think
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  Speaker 2: for the Democrats, they would have to be happy at
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  Speaker 2: least with Kamala Harris compared to what they had in
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden. And it seems like America is happier with
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  Speaker 2: it as well, because they're saying, well, at least it
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  Speaker 2: was a decent debate. More than half of the people
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  Speaker 2: thought it was.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they were happier than they were with Biden
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  Speaker 5: the minute they got rid of the bloke.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there was bad I remember before they
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  Speaker 2: replaced Biden there was talk about, I mean, are they
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  Speaker 2: going to go from Biden to Harris? They can't be serious?
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  Speaker 6: Ye, But of course so she is.
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  Speaker 5: You would go sure, but she is still benefiting from
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  Speaker 5: that anyone but Biden phenomenon. Right, You know, they could
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  Speaker 5: have picked aht Let asleep and he probably would have
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  Speaker 5: done better than Joe Biden. And the interesting thing about
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  Speaker 5: the polling numbers here is that literally everyone basically has
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  Speaker 5: tried to run interference for Kamala after that debate, Like
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  Speaker 5: the media has just almost whole as bowl as she
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  Speaker 5: wont she she wanted. It's being rammed down down people's
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  Speaker 5: throats and even big tech is interfering in this to
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  Speaker 5: help out Kamala and it's still not helping her thoroughly
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  Speaker 5: in the polls. This video was put together by the
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  Speaker 5: Reuben Report Dave Ruben, of course you've often seen on
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  Speaker 5: this network, particularly with Paul Murray. They put together a
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: group of the lies that she told and then in
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  Speaker 5: fact checked them. This video went up on TikTok and
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  Speaker 5: then TikTok took it down.
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  Speaker 8: You will sign a national abortion band.
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  Speaker 6: It's a lie. I'm not signing a band, and there's
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: no reason to sign a.
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  Speaker 8: Band, understand. And here's Project twenty twenty five. There would
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  Speaker 8: be a national abortion a monitor.
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  Speaker 6: What she says is an absolute lie.
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  Speaker 4: There is no state in this country where it is
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  Speaker 4: legal to kill a baby it's born.
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  Speaker 8: Nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to
• 14:53
  Speaker 8: term and asking for an abortion.
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  Speaker 9: The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable,
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  Speaker 9: the infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother
• 15:05
  Speaker 9: and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue
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  Speaker 9: between the physicians and the mothers.
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  Speaker 8: Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election, there
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  Speaker 8: will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of
• 15:16
  Speaker 8: this election is not to his liking.
• 15:18
  Speaker 10: It was a different term, and it was a term
• 15:20
  Speaker 10: that related to energy. We're going to put a one
• 15:22
  Speaker 10: hundred percent power on every single car that comes across
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  Speaker 10: the line, and you're not going to be able to
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  Speaker 10: sell those guys.
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  Speaker 6: If I get elected.
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  Speaker 10: Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be
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  Speaker 10: a blood beat.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what's wrong with that.
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  Speaker 5: It seems a pretty fair report of what Kamala said
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  Speaker 5: and her simply being fact checked for what she said.
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  Speaker 5: And now I said before this was big tech running interference.
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  Speaker 5: It's probably, let's be honest, China running interference for Kamala
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  Speaker 5: harrisy because we know that TikTok is owned by Byte
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  Speaker 5: Dance in China, and big business in China is intrinsically
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  Speaker 5: linked to the CCP. So why would TikTok to that
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  Speaker 5: that video, which was entirely truthful, ought to be taken
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  Speaker 5: off their platform unless China had an agenda to help
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: out Kamala Harris because they know she'll be a much
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  Speaker 5: softer touch than Donald Trump, who's promised to bring in
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  Speaker 5: tariffs on China and other nations in terms of their
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: exports to the United States. They're doing everything they can
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: to help her because they know she'll be better for them.
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  Speaker 2: Are you alleging election interference.
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  Speaker 6: Cave i Am James.
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  Speaker 2: She don't seem that way, And it makes total sense.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, China and Russia and North Korea and Iran
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: and Hamas, they would all love Kamala Harris to be
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: the next president of the United States. The weaker the better.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want a strong leader of the Western world.
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  Speaker 7: You don't want a strong commander in chief if you
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  Speaker 7: mean the West any harm.
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  Speaker 4: But the big, big takeaway from this debate seems to
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  Speaker 4: still be they're eating the.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: Dogs in Springfield. They're eating the doors, the people that
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: came in. They're eating the cats.
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  Speaker 10: They're eating they're eating the pets of the people that
• 17:07
  Speaker 10: lived there.
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  Speaker 2: ABC News did reach out to the city manager there.
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  Speaker 2: He told us there have been no credible reports of
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: individuals within the immigrant community.
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  Speaker 10: All I've seen people intelligen, let me just say here,
• 17:20
  Speaker 10: this is the people on television.
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: My dog was taken and used for food.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: Of course, we did show you some credible reports of
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: certain animals being eaten by hiations in Springfield last night,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: so again the fact checker got promptly fact checked.
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: But this is something.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: That has gone completely viral and something which TikTok hasn't
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: bothered to take down. Check out this funky remix now
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: going viral.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: They're eating the dogs.
• 17:53
  Speaker 11: They're eating the cats, eat the cat, eat eating the cat.
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: They're eating the dogs.
• 17:58
  Speaker 11: They're eating the cats, eat the cat, eat the cat,
• 18:01
  Speaker 11: eating the dogs. They're eating the cats, eat the cat,
• 18:05
  Speaker 11: the cat.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: They're eating the dogs.
• 18:07
  Speaker 11: They're eating the cats, eat the cat, eat eating the cats.
• 18:12
  Speaker 11: They're eating the dogs, eat the cat, eat the cat,
• 18:16
  Speaker 11: eating the dogs, eating the dogs, eat the cat, the cat.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: How good is that?
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: That is superb make that's a good idea. Yeah, perfect.
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: See. This is the brilliance of it though.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: And I was telling this to you guys last night
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: because you were like, oh, that was stupid.
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: That's when you knew. Actually sorry.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Caleb Brand was saying, this is where Trump lost it,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: and everyone was like, oh, no, he's done it. And
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: I argued, Trump is a troll. He knows what's mimable,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: he knows what will go viral, and this has gone
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: completely viral.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: Check Out this AI video of the.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: Cats now now arming up solidly on Team Trump.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: It's the same.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: Sixteen. They're still fighting.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Within their sex and there.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: In Trump, they know how to make something go viral.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Check Out this graphic shared by Trump himself. Here is
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: a cat in a maga hat ready to defend America
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: and his kind.
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: Don't want to mess with that cat, but laughs.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Aside, Trump's pick for VP, jd Vance was asked about
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: this post the debate, and this is exactly the strategy
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: that he explained to a reporter who clearly didn't want
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: to take much of what he was putting down.
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: But here he was.
• 19:58
  Speaker 12: It's interesting, Kaitland, that that the media didn't care about
• 20:02
  Speaker 12: the carnage wrought by these policies until we turned it
• 20:06
  Speaker 12: into a meme about cats, and that speaks to the
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: media's failure to care about what's going on in these communities.
• 20:13
  Speaker 12: If we have to meme about it to get the
• 20:14
  Speaker 12: media to care, we're going to keep on doing it
• 20:16
  Speaker 12: because the media should care about what's on.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: That's how you say that. I think the media does
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: care about it.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Really does the media care about it because they seem
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: to be denying it left right and center, Whereas today
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: I watched a half hour special by a guy called
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Tyler Oliviera who went around Ohio interviewing people who were
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: giving first hand accounts of missing pets, etc.
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: And so on. But what jd.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Vance did then was to turn it around on the
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: reporter and say, the bottom line of this issue is
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: that a town as small as Springfield, which is only
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: sixty thousand people, has had twenty thousand illegal migrants foisted
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: upon it. Every single one of their systems, from health
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: to the food supplies, is crumbling out from underneath them,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: and these people in Ohio have had enough of it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: So if it takes making something funny out of cat
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: and dog means we're gonna do it because.
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: Now it's gone viral. Now you guys pay attention, do
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: you reckon?
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Stephen Miles is at home watching the late debate tonight
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: and he's thinking, oh my god, how much better could
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: my social media be? Like he's putting out those lame
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you know, his the Gang protecting women videos. Meanwhile Trump
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: is producing absolute brilliance that AI video with those cats
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: with them. If that was a movie, like, oh, I
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: would buy.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: A ticket, absolutely, I'd be there with bells on it.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: In fact, I was talking to one of my cats, Claude,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: last night.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: He does talk to me, and he was still around. Yeah, no,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Claude has not been eaten. It's okay.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: They don't go for the other one, Boo, the old one,
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: because he'd be a bit tough for eating.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I think Claude.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Claude's a young rag doll, so you know, he could
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: be a proud target. But he was telling me he
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: wants to go off and in list. Now he's been
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: radicalized all of this stuff, and I'll tell you what
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: the thing's going on in Springfield. It's one hell of
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: an episode of the Simpsons, isn't it. But as you
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: were saying before, is. It just shows how canny Trump
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: is in terms of being able to get hold of
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: a media line and a social media line, and you
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: make people pay attention even when they don't want to.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: And the fact that we're sitting here talking about this
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: more extensively than we're talking about the rest of the debate.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: And you know, we just went over Camala before the
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: polls whatever, But this is the stuff that we are
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: talking about and everyone else is talking about because he
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: just dropped, pardon the pun, the cat amongst the pigeons,
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: or at least the cat that they could find that
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: hadn't been eton. He dropped the cat amongst the pigeons,
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: and it has worked. That's how he campaigns. And again
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: it was the same in twenty sixteen. When you looked
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: at the advertising spend that the Trump campaign had versus
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: the advertising spend of Hillary Clinton, the Democrats far outstripped
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: the Republicans by hundreds and hundreds.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Of millions of dollars.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: He got almost three times as many mentions in the media.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: I think the number was back in twenty sixteen. He
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: didn't have to pay for the campaign advertising because he
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: gave the content to be spread far and wide. And
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: that's exactly what he's doing here. He knows what he's doing.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Good on him.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: The other big difference between the Democrats and the Republicans
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: when it comes to their social media campaigns is the
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Democrats are always it's always doom gloom. Trump is dangerous,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: He's a threat to democracy. Trump takes the mickey out
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: of himself, gets everybody laughing, and it's actually quite endearing.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: So Springfield in Ohio, they've got asylum seeker problems. We've
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: got our own assylum and seeker problems here in Australia,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: dozens of asylum seekers on temporary visas have been camping
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: out in front of the Department of Home Affairs in
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Melbourne and in front of Tony Burke he's the Home
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Affairs Minister, in front of his office in Western Sydney,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: demanding that they be given permanent resids. See here's a
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: video produced by some of the refugees.
• 24:04
  Speaker 13: Hello friends, we ain in here. Everyone to get the
• 24:10
  Speaker 13: Berman and visa. We need the freedom. We want to
• 24:14
  Speaker 13: get the Berman and visa for in Australia. We start
• 24:19
  Speaker 13: the protest in Oscar in here.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: Today.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: He's fifty nine.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: That video is going so well until he mucked up
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: taking the bit of paper off this How does.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: He expect a permanent visa when he can't even rip
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: a piece of paper proper.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: The thing struck me about that video, and then I've
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: seen other images of the protesters. They've got signs saying
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: we demand full citizenship rights now, and it seems to
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: me that demanding you be given full citizenship right this
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: is probably not the way to endear yourself to authorities
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: or to the general public and get their support when
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: you arrived here illegally. Now, to Tony Burk's credit, he
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: came out and spoke with the protesters and talked to
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: them about maybe the fact they shouldn't quite act so
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Entires would maybe just keep the noise down outside his
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: office a little bit.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: But what you need to understand in this local area
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: up there in the units, there.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Are people who work shift work.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: The only chance they have to sleep is during the day.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Every hour you wake them, every single hour with that
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: drump and with the chanting. They now haven't had a
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: proper day's sleep except.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: On weekends for three weeks. That's not fair for them.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: What's happened is between you and the Australian government for
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: many years, but it's not there for moment. The way
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: you've been protesting has been really hurting a whole lot
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: of the people, where it's my job to protect them.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: To Tony Burke, would you go to a pro Palestine
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: rally and address the protesters just like you did those refugees,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: we would all be thrilled, We would applaud you if
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: you would talk to them in a similar fashion. But Kaylee,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: you've got these people on temporary visas. They're frustrated because
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: they're being made certain promises. There's a process you go through,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: so I guess it's partly them, but it's a lot
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: the fault of the Australian government. We don't have an
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: orderly refugee program, which we would all support. It's been
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: allowed to evolve and all sorts of things have happened
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: where you now get people who feel entitled, they feel
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: let down, they feel like they've got a right to protest,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: and we're seeing that right around the country now on
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: every issue. People feel like they are entitled, they have
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: a right to demand things. And I got, as I said,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: credit to Tony Burke for at least saying, hey, listen,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: there's a right way to go about things. Would that
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: they would say that more often into different groups.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Indeed, that's probably the best I've seen of Tony Burke
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: in a very long time. But see a lot of
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: these people who are camping out. I mean, you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: it's nigh on two months there. We saw after he
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: finally ripped his piece of paper fifty nine days on
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: that video, so it's two odd months they've been camping out.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: And a lot of these people are Tri Lankan Tamils
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: who believe that it's unsafe for them to go back home,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: but the Australian government has deemed that it is safe
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: for them to go back home. So they're caught in
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: something of a limbo because the government doesn't want to
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: give them a permanent visa because it believes they should
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: be able to go back. They refuse to go back
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: because they believe it's not safe.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: But they have been here.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: Many of these people have been here for a decade
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: or more on a temporary visa. So don't I get
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: that they want a permanent visa. But I don't think
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: they can in any way accuse Australia of not protecting
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: them or helping them in any way. All we've said is, look,
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: if the day comes that we believe you should be
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: sent back home, we reserve the right to do so.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: But in the meantime you're still allowed to live here.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: I actually don't see what the great problem is.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: And this kind of protest action forces the government's hand,
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: perhaps not even in their favor, if they're going to
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: keep this up so relentlessly and make menaces out of
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: themselves in a country that, like you say, has been
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: so gracious to them. What is really missing here? And
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: we see this throughout.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: The Western world.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: I've watched countless videos of immigrants in the UK, in Germany,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: throughout Europe being so entitled and demanding. We've showed some
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: of the clips, most recently on this show, of those
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: making it to American cities, these illegal immigrants living it
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: up on the taxpayer dime in five star hotels, just
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: being like this is wonderful and we don't intend to
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: lift a finger.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: We're just staying here. What are you going to do now?
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: And going to council meetings and demanding Now we want
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: into rep is now, we'd like more food, thank you
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: very much. Now, we'd like it's not this attitude of gratitude,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: whereby it's like, my goodness, this host country is incredible,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: thank you so much for taking us in. How can
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: we can contribute to your society, How can we pay
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: it forward? How can we give it back? That kind
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: of attitude is going to endear any host country to
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: do the best they can buy those people. But what
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: we keep seeing continually is this real sense of entitlement.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: We want more now, we want permanency here, etc.
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: And so on.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: It doesn't work. And should we ever see our government
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: give in to that kind of pressure by people who
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: are just lucky to be here, the Australians would be outraged,
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: and rightly so, because that's not your job as the government.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: Your job's to put our interests first, dear well.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Attitudes to asylum seekers are certainly changing in Europe. We
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: report it on Tuesday that Hungary, who are not excited
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: asylum seekers, they're putting them in detention. They had been
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: fined by the European Union. Hungary said well, we're not
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: paying your fines, and if you really love asylum seekers,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: well then we'll put them on buses and we'll send
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: them to Brussels. So that was Hungry on Tuesday. Then
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: on Wednesday, which was yesterday, we reported it Germany, who
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: took in millions of illegals over the last number of years,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: they are now putting tight controls on all of their
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: borders and sending asylum seekers back to where they've come from.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: The leader of Hungary was so impressed by this, he
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: tweeted Germany has decided to impose strict border controls to
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: stop illegal immigrants. Welcome to the club hashtag stop migrations.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: That was yesterday, but it keeps going today. That stop
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: migration club has expanded with the Netherlands. The Netherlands politician
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Gert Wielders has vowed to copy the policy of Germany
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: for his country as well. And now their suggestions Liz
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: that Austria might be the next in line to say,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: you know what, We're going to protect our national borders
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I love it and this is exactly what I
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: was hoping for right Hungary has gonads the size of
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: a bull. Germany that the reason why Germany is suddenly
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: like we're tightening up our borders is because they just
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: got thrashed in their state elections. The AfD party, known
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: as the far right party, the anti mass immigration party, absolutely.
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: Soared in the polls.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: They've got a federal election coming up in a year's time,
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: so suddenly the German government is like the AfD fell
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: one seat foul of having a blocking majority in the parliament.
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: We've got to pull our bootstraps.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Up before the election next September, otherwise we are Goners.
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: Garrett Wilders, this isn't a surprise from him.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: He ran very strongly on anti immigration policy, also did
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: very well in the Dutch elections, but.
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: Not quite well enough. They've got such a complicated system
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: over there.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Not well enough to then be able to exact his policies,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: but enough in the parliament to rally around this. Yes,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: and now you're about to hear from if the polls
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: are true in Austria, the man who may be the
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: next leader of Austria.
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: He's the head of the Freedom Party.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: And guess what he's running on anti immigrationachanan a su.
• 32:31
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• 33:02
  Speaker 4: That is Herbert Kikel and hopefully you'll be seeing a
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: lot more of him in a couple of weeks time
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: when Austria.
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: Goes to the polls. This is exciting. This is like
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: I said last night.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: It could be the beginning of the end for the EU,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: because all of these four countries now are kicking the
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: EU's own policies in the teeth and saying enough is enough.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: All of them are being warned by the EU. We're
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: not even sure that what you're doing is legal. It's
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: certainly very controversial. Yet standing up for your own national
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: sovereignty and the interests of the people who elected you
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: to represent them.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: Oh that's so controversial.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Who knows what could be around the corner if enough
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: countries keep ganging up on the EU.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine what the English are thinking though, because
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: our accuser being's in a phobic and racist gone out
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: of Germany have turned things around, but even more so
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: because kiss Starmer has killed that Rwandan plan right that
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Rishie Sineka was going to deport illegal immigrants from the
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: UK to Rwanda and the English had built a whole
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: lot of accommodation centers in Rwanda. Will kissed Arma said no,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: we're not doing that anymore. But the Germans are now
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: saying we may well use those places built by British
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: taxpayer money in Rwanda to process illegal migrants. So it's
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: a completely for building it there is we will come.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: There is finally movement at the station and they should
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: all get on the phone, you know, Germany, the Netherlands,
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: they should all get on the phone to Nigel Farage
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: and ask him how.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: They pulled off Brexit.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Because if you have enough countries start to push back
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: against the EU. And as we talked about the other night,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: you know particularly well, we know what's what happened with
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: Hungary where they've been given this two hundred million euro fine.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Germany is probably now going to face legal action from
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: the EU because they're refusing to adhere to.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: The EU's migration policies.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: If you get enough countries eventually do this and they
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: can pull off a big fight against the EU. Will
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: who knows what could happen if they can all get
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: together and pull out of the EU at the same time.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Ahead, we may actually see some action.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Now we know here in this country that it is
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: a land of droughts and flooding rains. It's a land
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: of bushfires as well, and a lot of us get
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: trepidacious when we come up to summer, and we are
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: of course coming up to summer now, and we worry
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: about how bad bushfires could get. So the Cats family
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: in Adelaide, they live in the Adelaide Hills, after they
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: saw how bad the bushfires were in twenty nineteen, decided
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: that they would build a bushfire bunker in their backyard.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: Now it's all up to national spec at needs building requirements.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: They can go underground. It's got an hour's worth of oxygen.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: So if they are caught in a situation where they're
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: told by the CFS, by the authorities that it is
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: too late to leave, the safest thing you can do
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: is state your property. Well, of course, they don't want
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: to run the risk of being burnt to a crisp
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: so they have this bunker to go into, but they've
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: been told by the Adelaide Hills Council that their bunker
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: is illegal.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: And you want to know why it's illegal.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: And they're being threatened by the way with fines of
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: between five hundred and twenty.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Thousand dollars if they use it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: You know, good luck, you actually saved your life in
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: the middle of a bushfire. But he's a twenty thousand
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: dollar bill for doing so. Try and make that make sense.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: But apparently the reason that they have.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: Been told that they can't do this is because there's
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: actually nowhere in the planning legislation in South Australia that
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: accounts for something such as a bushfire bunker. And so
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: because this thing just doesn't exist anywhere in planning law,
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: it is automatically illegal. So they're scrambling to try and
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: find some way to approve this. They've been told it
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: is illegal. You've got to try and get approval. They've
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: gone for approval, they've gone actually, no, hang on a minute,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: we can't approve this thing because there's nothing in law
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: that allows us to do so. The state government says
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: it's because of safety concerns. Now, look, I would have
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: thought this was an open and case.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you what it is.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: It's a case of crazy bureaucracy where someone is trying
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: to save his own life and his family's life, and
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: he's been told all no, because it's on a piece
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: of paper here, that these things aren't legal, that you
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: can't possibly.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Do that because of safety.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: So what they're worried that the bunker he has built
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: might be unsafe and I don't know, that might lead
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: to his death more than they're worried about the fact
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: that he could be in a house in the middle
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: of a bush fire and that mightn't lead to his death.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they prefer him to hide in his car with
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: his family than in a building approved bunker. The last
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: major bushfires in Adelaide were twenty nineteen, right, they were
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: the really treaded. So the council have had five years
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: to get a bit of legislation, put it in the
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: documents or whatever, and sign off on it. Surely, how
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: long does it take to do that. Victoria have already
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: done it. So they could literally copy and paste what
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Victoria have done. Yeah, put it in their own statutes
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: and it would be done in a week.
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: Also, this is their own land.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: How can you not build build a bunker which cost
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: them twenty five thousand dollars to ensure their safety in
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: the event of another fire like they did survive in
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: twenty nineteen.
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: How How can it curls my hair when we talk.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: About restrictions placed on people doing common sense things on
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: their own property.
• 38:18
  Speaker 7: Fair enough, if you're going to.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Start building a small town out there on your.
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: Property, that's going to be an issue.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: But something is common sense, as an underground bunker in
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: the case of another fire.
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: They should be encouraging everyone.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Who could get caught up in another bushfire like twenty nineteen.
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: Everyone, if you can afford it, do it. Go for
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: your life.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Like the family have said, it meets the National Building Code.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: They built it according to the National Building Code and
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: it's just and rather than the local government going, oh, well,
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: we need to amend rules around this.
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: Clearly no, we're going to find them for taking the initiative.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: If there's a fire, I doubt they'll worry what council says,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Self funded retiree is about to be hit by the
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: government for aged care costs that's coming up in a month. Okay,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: welcome back. Let's take a look at what's making news
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: in tomorrow's papers. Liz, you've got the Adelaide Advertiser and
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: a really interesting story about a private school.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, you may recall this story of a young boy
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: who was expelled.
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: After winning against a football match against.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: An opposing school, and then a group of the boys
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: got together and let the opposing schools blazer on fire.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Headline reads Blackfriars burnt our Sorry Son. The parents of
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: a year twelve student expelled from Blackfriars Priory School for
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: burning a rival school sport jacket claim a student selling
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: drugs to younger boys and another student involved in a.
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: Bashing were allowed to stay.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: The devastated couple said their son had been made a
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: scapegoat for a foolish schoolboy prank, and that while he
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: should have been punished, his penalty wasn't fair and had
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: left him unable to finish year twelve. His family is
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: now considering legal action and I hope they do it.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: I hope they take these guys to court. That is
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: utterly a disproportionate punishment the guys in year twelve. It's
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: one of the most Well, it is the most important
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: year of your stolastic life. It decides what yuni you'll
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: get into, what courses you'll get into. And like I
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: said at the time, and I'm not sorry to repeat,
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: if I was his mum, I would have been a
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: little bit proud.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's quite.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know, visceral, but these boys have got all
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: this testosterone running around in their body and they thought
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: it was a good idea.
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: At the time, nobody was hurt. It was purely symbolic.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: They were enjoying a victory and they decided to celebrate
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: it in a very boyish way.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: If you'd done it fifteen years ago, the footay coach
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: would have said, we love that merit anything to win.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: And there were twenty six students I believe, who were
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: in this and this particular kid just happened to be
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: unlucky enough to be the one who actually managed to
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: set the thing on fire after other kids had tried
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: and failed. And when they went to the school and
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: had a meeting, the parents asked, well, rather than be expelled,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: what if he didn't come back to school? What if
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: he just did remote learning for the final ten weeks
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: of year twelve, and they said no to even that. Meanwhile,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: as you said, Liz, another kid who sold cannabis and
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: vapes to other students was not expelled. And seven older
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: students who bashed one younger student none of them suffered
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: any major consequences. One was suspended, the other six kids
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: no punishment at all. But this kid for setting a
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: football jersey on fire ten weeks before the end of school.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: And I gone, I think it was because in that
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: same week Pembroke School in Adelaide had been caught up
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: in a controversy where the students had been caught out
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: with like a fine system in the football team where
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: if you had an ugly girlfriend to pay up fifty
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: dollars all this stuff, And so I think they fell like, ah,
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: you know, the media attention is honest this week, we've
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: got to do something. But I mean, for heaven's sake,
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: the boy did not deserve to be suspended. It's not
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: like he was eating the dogs or the cats or anything.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: For heaven's sake, Let's go to the Daily Telegraph by the.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Way before we go. If they were trying to avoid
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: media attention, how well has that worked out?
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: Well, he's making.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: Go to that Daily Telegraph where it says hate Chip
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: group could share in two.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Point four million dollar grant, laughing all the way.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: To the bank.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: Sydney Islamic group with ties to a sheik who said
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: he was smiling and elated by the October seven attacks
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: on Israel has been invited to apply for a share
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: of two point four million dollars in federal government grant money. Now,
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: you know, it's one thing to sort of put grant
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: money out into the ether and say well, if you
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: want to come.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: And apply for and go for your life. But I've
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: been actually reaching out to organizations.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: Hey, hey, by the way, there's a better government money here,
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: if you want to come and get it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, you'd think they vet the people they were
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: going to offer this money to first, wouldn't you.
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: Indeed, and there's no deed.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: The full article isn't yet up online, so we only
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: have what we've read to you. But it begs the question, firstly,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: who the hell has invited this guy to apply for
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: some of this funding, and secondly, what is this grant?
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: This two point four million grant that obviously will be apportioned.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: It's not all going to one person But what kind
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: of grant is this that a man of his character
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: or lack thereof has been hit up to apply for it.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Let's hope it's a seminar on inclusion and tolerance. There
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: will be money well spent. Let's go the front page
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: of the Career Mail. The headline reads, okay, boomers cough
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: up new aged care residents set to pay more. Self
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: funded retirees and part pensioners will pay more for their
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: aged care at home or in residential facilities under an
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: overhaul of the system following a deal between Labor and
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: the Coalition. Now, obviously the cost of aged care continue
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: used to expand with an aging population, so the government's
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: desperately trying to wind back the expense. They're going to
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: spend four point three billion dollars helping elderly people to
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: stay in their homes rather than move early to aged
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: care facilities, and they reckon by doing that, they'll save
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: themselves twelve point six billion dollars over the coming decade.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: But it does mean that aged care residents with quote
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: sufficient means will pay more for services like haircuts, showering,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: those sorts of things, and so some self funded retirees
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: could be up for about thirteen thousand dollars a year
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: extra for their aged care, according to the report.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: I mean it kind of makes you wonder why you
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: bothered to become a self funded retiring in the I
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: tried really hard to not be a burden on the taxpayer,
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: and then you make it more hard.
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: We'll just incentivizing retiring apovo.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Just be like, you know what, I'm going to spend
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: all my cash before I get to that point, because
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: you guys have sold me down the river. Let's not
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: forget Our government knows its own demographics.
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: They have known for decades that they are looking at an.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Age care tsunami in this country with our aging population.
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: Did they prepare for it?
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: No, yes they have. They look at all the migrants
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: they're bringing in. That's their plan.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: It just it absolutely discussed me the state of age
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: care in this country to the front page of the Australia.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: Now, officers let off over war crimes.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: Senior commanders have been let off the hook for war
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: crimes on their watching Afghanistan. The Coalition and senior defense
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: figures have warned. After Richard Miles stripped medals from fewer
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: than ten current and former officers for failing to prevent
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: murders by their subordinates.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: Man, this is a grisly one. Some people are in favor,
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: some people are against.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: It's just you can't You can never keep everyone happy
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: on this.
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: But when the evidence is what it is, the government
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: has to be seen to do something.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: I think it's dirty to send people overseas and then
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: punish them for things that happen in the fog of war.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: And I think it's even dirty that Angus Campbell, who
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: was head of the Defense Force at the time, hasn't
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: lost any of his honors.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: He was the man ultimately in charge. Others below him
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: have lost their honors, but not him. Why fair question.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break when we come back.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden, is he now a Trump supporter? More of
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: that number? Okay, we reported earlier that the US presidential
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: debate didn't change the polling, but it might have changed
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: one person's mind.
• 46:33
  Speaker 7: Liz, this is just unbelievable.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: Before we show you this clip, let's all take a
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: moment to remember Joe Biden is still the President of
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: the United States of America, so you can imagine just
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: how viral pictures of him wearing a Trump twenty twenty
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: four cap has gone. He was visiting a firefighters station
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: in honor of nine to eleven yesterday, and when one
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: of the firefighters asked him to put him on, he
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: actually obliged.
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: YEA her name, I don't remember my name.
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: I'm small.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, man, O, God, there you go.
• 47:14
  Speaker 9: Man, I forgot you kind need that hat.
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: He'll know.
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: I'm going out for very I'm drown you out.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Remember knowing me?
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: Cats unbelievable.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Many commentators have then posed the question, is this once
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: again proving Trump right when he said in yesterday's debate, we.
• 48:01
  Speaker 15: Had no problems when Trump was president. But when this weak,
• 48:05
  Speaker 15: pathetic man that you saw at a debate just a
• 48:09
  Speaker 15: few months ago that if he weren't in that debate,
• 48:11
  Speaker 15: he'd be running on sead of her.
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: She got no votes. He got fourteen million votes.
• 48:15
  Speaker 15: What you did?
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: You talk about a threat to democracy? He got fourteen
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: million votes, and they threw him out of office. And
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: you know what, I'll give you a little secret. He
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: hates her. He can't stand her.
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: It would appear to be the case. He hates her.
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: He gone standard. This guy got fourteen million votes. They
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: threw him out like a dog.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: That's the best I have seen so Biden. He's just
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: riffen along with the guy. The guy's making fun of him.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: He's making fun of the guy. He was playing along
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: with the joke. It's almost like since they told Biden, actually,
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: you're not running in November, a weight has been lifted
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: off his shoulders and he can have a bit of
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: fun with himself.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: I reckon it's more a case of he's tired of
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: being the establishment shill. They did throw him out like
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: a dog, so now he's like, you know what sort it.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: I'm the president of the United States of America and
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: I'm wearing the opposition's hat.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I don't care well on that note, we need to go,
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: but stick around. Coming up is the Rita Pennehy shows.
• 49:10
  Speaker 11: They're eating the cats eat the cat, eat the cat.
• 49:13
  Speaker 11: They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats, eat the cat,
• 49:17
  Speaker 11: eat the cat. There eating the dogs. They're eating the
• 49:20
  Speaker 11: cats eat the cat.