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BONUS EPISODE: Pgh Sports Current Events - August 2025 · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: Hello and welcome to another current events episode of the Pittsburgh Sportsman Memory Podcast.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh today we're gonna go over some stuff.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_01: So we'll cover what happened in July-ish since our last current events update.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_01: I am your co-host, Steve Wirt.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: As usual, I'm joined by Tim Hannon.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: All right, let's do this hockey, I guess.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_01: We're not gonna talk about hockey this episode.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: But we'll talk about baseball since it is the heart of baseball season.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: And let's talk about one Pittsburgh pirate in particular.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: The anathema that is O'Neill Cruz.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: Fun fact, you know, he's uh named after Paul O'Neill, his father's favorite baseball player was Paul.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I didn't know that.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: Why he just didn't name him Paul Cruz, I'm not sure, but whatever.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: Was Paul O'Neill the one that had to hit two home runs for the sick kid in the hospital?
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_01: And he had to then the next episode he had to catch a fly ball in his hat.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, um in the home run derby, O'Neill Cruz was there and he decided to show us like all his talent, and it's very frustrating because this guy is one of those players, and you see it all over sports, where like he has all the talent in the world.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: This guy is just like if he can just put it together, he could be one of the greatest players of all time.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_01: He really could.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_01: He has that kind of talent.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_01: The guy can run like it's fast, got to be one of the fastest players in baseball.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_01: He's tall, he's kind of lanky, he can track down fly balls, he has an absolute cannon for an arm.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: And he hit a 513-foot home run in Atlanta during the home run derby.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: He hit one in the freaking pool with him.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: But, you know, now he's with the Pirates and they're coaching.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_01: He is batting 219 with 40 RBIs.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: I watched the game last night there playing the Diamondbacks, who were very mediocre.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_01: He struck out a bunch again, but then he tracks down a ground, a routine ground ball in center field and throws a guy out at second that was trying to stretch on him.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: I mean stretch a single into a double.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's like maddening.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: Watching him play is absolutely maddening.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you know, the Yankees were talking to the Pirates about trading him, according to John Hyman from the New York Post.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but they're saying that maybe the asking for price is too high.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um any other thoughts on O'Neill Cruz?
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know what to say anymore about him.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's just very frustrating.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: It would be very nice to see him develop.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I forget he had like so many home runs and stolen bases, he's had the most since Barry Bonds at this point of the season.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I I I don't I don't know what to do with him.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know what they do with him.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they give up on him.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: Cincinnati already gave up on him, so I I I don't know.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I so definitely agree.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: He's maddening.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: He should be better.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um you would think.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the only thing I can say about him is that um maybe maybe it'll just take him a few more years.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you you mentioned Barry Bonds.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: That was Barry Bonds' early career, you know, a lot of um uh flashes of brilliance, uh, but then frustration and you know uh uh wouldn't uh uh would make these these ill ill-advised decisions in the outfield, stuff like that, right?
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_00: So would strike out, you know.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe maybe he also has uh with the stolen bases, and he has a bunch of walks, but he has the most strikeouts in the majors.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: So it's yeah, I mean the the the I'd be a little more hopeful if the pirates actually had like you know a real manager and uh an organization that tried to put you know other pieces around him, things like that.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_00: And and again, I know we've talked about this in previous current event episodes, but this is a shame because the pirates truly do with him and some of the other players they have, especially Skeens, they they really do have a window here to be good.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um and and they're not they're not gonna probably take advantage of it.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_00: And sadly, you know, he's one of those guys that could be helping in that, and he doesn't seem to be helping.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it leads us back to what you're saying.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_01: The pirates, they suck-ish.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's just like the more I watch though, I've watched two games now that prove my point.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like they played against Seattle, who's pretty good, and they have that that catcher who did win the home run derby.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_01: O'Neil Cruz got eliminated in the second thing, the second round.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and they pitch to the guy and he hits like two home runs on him.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you knew this guy was like, why are you even pitching to this guy?
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just like Seattle makes all these great plays in the field and like ends up winning 6-0 in a game that was really way closer than that because the Pirates couldn't make the play.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_01: So I think it's it's like the difference between like a good team and a bad team, and they're just and a great team and a good team.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_01: They're like they could be good, they're on the cusp of being good, but they just have so many bad players and them.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: I guess maybe the managing isn't that crazy I don't know.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: They seem to respond better to this new guy than they did you know, the old guy.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Don Kelly seems to be getting more out of them.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: So they do stuff that bad teams do is they get swept by the White Sox, who the Chicago White Sox are like one of the worst teams in baseball, and then they go and sweep the Detroit Tigers, who are one of the best teams in baseball.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_01: So go figure.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_01: Now the Tigers are on a slump right now.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: They're only one for nine in the last ten.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, maybe they're in a collapse, but I think the Tigers still lead their division by eight games.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_01: So the Tigers must have had one heck of a first half.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know, Tim.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_01: This team is very frustrating, and baseball is frustrating.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: So here's the hope, and the lockout comes sooner rather than later.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's more frustrating now than it has been in previous years because in all these other in most of these other past 30 seasons, and it's literally been you know 30 plus seasons where they've stunk, minus, you know, a very small handful.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_00: In most of the seasons, they just stink.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: Period.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: There's not really a lot of hope.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um now, like you said, you can see the path.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: You can see the path to them being a playoff team.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the division they play in, the pitching that they have, they absolutely have a path towards being a playoff team.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not like they, you know, in all those other years, it's like, oh man, I really hope, you know, next year we get the number one draft pick, and that guy ends up being a, you know, the next Barry Bonds.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_00: No, this is literally, they have the guys now, and all they need to do is just try a little bit.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: Just get like I said, get a real manager, get a real general manager, not not even get a real general manager, get a general manager who's allowed to sign guys beyond a one-year contract.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: And just put a little bit of again, you're not you don't have to be the Dodgers, just put a little bit of try behind this and and pay for that window.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yesterday they played the Diamondbacks in 11 innings of baseball.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know how many runs they scored, Tim?
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_01: Zero.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, zero.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_01: You can't win scoring zero runs, and you can't blame the pitching.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_01: And the Diamondbacks have a decent lineup.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: They have a decent they have guys that are hitting well.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: So I it's just so frustrating, but that's enough of them.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: How about how about Steelers training camp?
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: That started, right, Tim?
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: Do you do you care about Steelers training app, or like you like me?
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_01: I don't really care.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm um it's uh I care to the point.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's just traditionally the end of baseball season.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was gonna say it at least gives us something to um talk about.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: Whereas like the last couple of really the last month, you had nothing else.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_00: So it's nice to see football back.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_00: The thing I don't like about training camp are the overreaction kind of stuff.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like, oh, we so and so was practicing today, and he looked really sharp or he looked really bad, and it's like, come on, it's practice.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: So Aaron Rodgers threw an interception on his first pass at practice.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: So he's it was the Patrick Queen.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: So he's a bust.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: What a what a waste of a signing.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: See, I told you.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's what it was.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody's saying they're on online right now that didn't like the signing.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the Steelers uh have lost nine starters and 16 players overall.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: So they are a totally different team from last year.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_01: So who knows?
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: I have no idea.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: They could go in the tank, they could make the playoffs.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think they're gonna win the Super Bowl, but I could see them making the playoffs if things go right and the team stays healthy and stays together.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: I could see them kind of having a year like last year again.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_00: If they won 10 games last year, with Russell Wilson essentially being like completely broken down by the end of the year, and the defense being a little shoddy and the offensive line being you know very questionable, you know, then they logic dictates that they should be able to win more than 10 games this year.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_00: But it's the NFL, and you just never know what's going to happen.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, the Trib Trib Sports uh had a breakdown of a couple different players.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we'll go through them.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, Tim.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: You can comment, I'll comment.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: TJ Watt, now the second highest paid edge rusher.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: They have yet to win a playoff game with TJ Watt in the lineup.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: He has been very disappointing in the playoffs, and I don't think does he even have any sacks or fumbles or interceptions in the playoffs?
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't think he does.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: He scored a touchdown against Kansas City in the playoffs.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_00: I remember that, but I think he recovered a fumble.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't wouldn't say that the Stewart won a playoff game in eight years because of TJ Watt.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's unfair.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm sorry, he's an edge rusher, he's really good.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's totally fair.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_01: Totally fair.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: I just I think that that's I mean, uh I don't know.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: I I just I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be part of that.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like the Stewart the TJ Watt doesn't deserve a con doesn't deserve the money because he doesn't want a playoff game.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's that's a that's more of a team thing than a TJ Watt thing.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: Well, maybe they'll win one this year.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: DK Metcalf.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: I hope he gels with Aaron Rodgers.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_01: Is he gonna be any good?
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: I was he good last year, Tim?
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't remember.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_01: He was okay last year, right?
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was he's he's I mean he's very talented.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: So it's nice to have you know a talented receiver who's not George Pickens.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um we'll see.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's all I can say is we'll see.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: Jalen Warren?
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: Is he another will?
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, is he gonna I mean they're I guess they're gonna split between him and the rookie, right?
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I th I think I think it's gonna be Warren.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think Jalen Warren's better as the role he's had the last couple years.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: Second second banana, not first banana.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: But but it's a rookie, so you have to we'll see.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: Again, we'll see.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: I I think if that if Caleb Johnson's as good as people think he could be, then I'm excited for him.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: I think, you know, you talk about everybody says, oh, the stewards never want anything with TJ Watt.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: They never want anything with Najee Harris either.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so we'll see.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: We'll see if that if that improves anything.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_01: Did you hear what happened to Najee Harris?
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: He messed up his eye in a fireworks accident.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: So oops.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: Kind of glad we don't have him anymore.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, how about Broderick Jones?
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: Can he not have three holding penalties on like one series?
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: Is that that happened against Denver?
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, at least they're putting him back in the position he's supposed to play out.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: So again, I think it's a kind of a make or break year for him.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Juan Thornhill, he better be freaking good because uh they they lost uh really guy that was really good to to put him in his place.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_01: And they just signed somebody from the Ravens, I saw, but I didn't even look.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: Some guy named Chuck, something or other.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll see.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: We'll see.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't know what they're gonna do, you know, if Jalen Ramsey's gonna play in the slot or they're gonna play him more at safety.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: I think Juan Thornhill is one of those guys.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: And remember, Cleveland, when they signed him, that was like a big money deal because he had come from Kansas City and he was pretty good.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, he who knows.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe to change the scenery, maybe Cleveland's Cleveland, so it's Browns be Browns.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: He's also gonna play center field.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: He's not they're not asking him to play a position where you know they he just has to be okay, I think.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: So can he do that?
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Again, we'll see.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why they put Alex Highsmith on this list.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: I think he'll be fine.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: This is like a hot seat list, is that yeah.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: I guess I mean players to watch for.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think he'll be fine.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: He's gonna do what he did last year.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um this is uh true or false, Tim.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: The Steelers are all in this year.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I I really wanted to talk about this one because uh I I've heard this a lot from national media, from local media, oh the the Steelers signed Rogers and they made this trade of Minka for Jalen Ramsey and John Hugh Smith, and and they're all in for they've pushed all their chips to the middle of the table.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't get it.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: I I think that's a completely false narrative.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, does a team that is all in sign a 42-year-old quarterback?
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh does a team that is all in trade its leading receiver for future draft picks?
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: You know, does a team that is all in trade their all-pro safety?
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: If if if they were like truly all in for this year, they would have kept pickings until the end of his contract, and then they would have traded draft picks to get Ramsey and Smith, not Minka.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, if if you want a real example of a team that's all in, the Los Angeles Rams went seven years, seven, without a first-round draft pick.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: And some of the seasons they didn't even have a second round pick.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: For Stafford, yeah.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they created a ton of draft capital to get a quarterback who was in his early 30s and still in his prime.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, they didn't sign a guy that was 10 years older who no one else wanted.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: So uh, you know, the Steelers also have 12, 12 projected draft picks.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: If you count compensatory picks that are expected to happen, 12 for 2026.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's not a team that's all in for this year.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: I I mean they they've changed that that they're a team in transition because they, like I said, they got rid of nine, 16 players overall, and nine of them were starters.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: So you really don't know.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I think you can safely say is this is a wild card year.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: The Steelers could be really good, or at least good enough to make the playoffs again, or they could be really bad.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_01: I could see them being really bad.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: I can see like Aaron Rodgers fizzling out like midway through the year.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: That could absolutely happen.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: That's why that's why I said they're not all in.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: I I would call it I I think more accurate than all in is you just don't know what you're getting.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like when you're changing this many parts, yeah, like especially early in the year, like if they can just go like 500 or somewhere around 500 by the eighth, what, eighth or ninth week of the season, then we'll see from there.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, if they're like, you know, only have two or three wins by the you know eighth week, what would that make them?
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Three and five, then they're probably done.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: What they're trying if you're the what from their perspective, they're trying to balance rebuilding for the future while still winning.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, with putting the best team on the field possible for 2025.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's what they do.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: They're they're not they're not going to be the penguins and throw a season or two away to rebuild.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's just not how they operate, for better or worse.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's not how the Steelers operate.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: So, so they, you know, the to their credit, they decided that, you know, like everybody was upset.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, these Najee Harris and George Pickens and uh Russell Wilson and Minka and all the guys that they, you know, changed, those guys had never won anything.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: And so they made a bunch of changes to try to mix things up.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: But the future is still really dependent on who they get at quarterback.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: And they have 12 draft picks next year.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: So so they're going to build for the future while still trying to win this year with Aaron Rodgers.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's why Aaron Rodgers is a one-year signing, because this is a bridge year.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: But but to say like they're all in, that's so, you know, and I hate that because now if they are three and five at week eight, Steve, people will be like, oh ho ho, the stewards, they put all their tips in the middle of the table and they stink.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's like that's not what happened.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: They didn't sacrifice.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: If you're all in, like again, like the Rams didn't have draft picks.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have 12 draft picks next year if you're all in.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: You don't, like I said, you don't trade pickings for draft picks if you're all in.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: That makes no sense.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I just I think that's a dumb narrative.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I think, too, with all them draft picks, you're obviously not going to draft 12 people.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: They're looking to trade up in the draft.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's exactly that's exactly what he's gonna do.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: He's gonna train up to get a quarterback.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: So that's why I'm saying they're not that they're not all in.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: If they were all in, they would have signed uh like Sam Darnold or whoever the top free agent quarterback was.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you Aaron Rodgers was like he was either gonna sign with the SEOs or retire.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you weren't outbidding other teams for him.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's not going all in.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: Come on.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll end this uh on a sad note here, Tim, since it's kind of been a slow, slow day and slow month in sports.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: They're uh we'll close it with the celebrity death portion of our of our podcast.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: And this is sad because I kind of predicted this was gonna happen.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so on Monday of last week, uh Theo Hoxtable, Malcolm Jamal Warner, uh drowned off the coast of Costa Rica, I do believe.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: He got caught in a rip current.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_01: And then later in the week, uh Ozzie Osborne died, and I said to my wife, there's gonna be three.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Bad things happen in three.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: And sure enough, the other day Hulk Hogan passed away.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, Ozzie is the Prince of Darkness himself, you know, he's like the Raiders, he's pure untadulterated evil, and apparently a big fan of snorting ants, according to Motley Crue.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he did a lot of drugs, had a lot of Parkinson's, and kind of, you know, you kind of get what you do.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um Hulkan, um, cardiac arrest.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we don't know what happened there, but um something tells me that there might have been some, you know, steroid use in his past.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: Not to be smudged, but Hulkan had a great career.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Tim was always more into wrestling than me.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh when he slammed uh Andre the Giant, another wrestler who's passed away.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's like a big thing that put 80s wrestling on the map.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: What'd you say, Tim?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: That was iconic.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: That was WrestleMania 3.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: That was, I mean, just in the Silverdome.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: In this yeah.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I I said to a couple of friends the other day, I think that's one of the if I had to list like the top ten most iconic moments of my childhood in culture, period, I'd put that one on there.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was just iconic.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: And it yeah, it um Hulk Hogan was he's one of those celebrities back then.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: Well, all three of these guys in the 80s, all three of those guys were you know, everybody knew who they were.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: I never was a big Aussie fan.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: Not not really.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I wouldn't know.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: But people, but people I'm saying people knew who he was.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like like all the years.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I mean, and then he kind of reinvented himself with the um reality show him and Sharon.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: Where him I don't know if him and Sharon were they were on again, off again.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: She's sick herself.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: And uh Malcolm Jamal Warren, uh that's just tragic.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: I mean weird.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: And they say that that beach was notorious for riptides, too.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: But I don't know.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: I I is just a sad day, sad week for celebrity deaths.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's just because it's slow and we noticed, but um like you said, were you a big Cosby show fan, Tim?
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: I never really watched the Cosby show.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: We my family that was a big show in our house.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: We watched that every Thursday at 8 o'clock.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that was that was like NBC's like must C T V.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: Was family ties on in that block too?
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: I I bet they would I can't remember.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: I I mean Kierz was on at nine.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: I Cosby Show was at eight.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember what all the other, yeah.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe a different world after um after Cosby show.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: But uh we're finishing up your putting pops and uh snorting ants while watching wrestling.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Bill Cosby's uh unfortunate um transgressions aside, I mean that show was just huge at the time.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, Malcolm Jamal Warner was kind of like there was a bunch of kids on the show, but he was kind of like the I I would say like the the more standout one.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: And um there was Hey, don't sleep on Raven.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: She was awesome when she was like five years old.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she was.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, that was just that was sad.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: So that was really sad, especially him because he was so young.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Ozzy was 76, and my goodness, the fact that he made it to 76 is a miracle.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: And and Hulk was in his Hulk was 70s, yeah.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and like you said, I mean, both those guys had lifestyles that probably pointed to, you know, potential health problems down the road.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know if Malcolm Jamal Warner did or not, but like you said, his death was not related to that.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: His death was just a tragic thing.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: So that was that yeah, all three said again, that was our childhood, Steve.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: That was me and you.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's we grew up in the 80s, and um those were all huge figures in our childhood.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we appreciate everybody tuning into these uh current events thing.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: We'll keep doing them.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully in August we end on a more positive note.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: We'll be celebrating Aaron Rodgers.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they don't start till September, so they won't be able to We'll be celebrating the amazing pass he threw in training camp.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, we will.
• 22:50
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• 22:51
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• 22:52
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• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: And uh thank you and God bless.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: We'll catch you next time.