Latest / The Driven Athlete / Dive into Your Ikigai - Purpose, Meaning, and Reason for Being | Ep 141
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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: If you're a driven, active person who wants to reach and pursue a higher quality life with some ambition, then guess what?
- 0:06SPEAKER_00: This podcast is for you.
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: This is the Driven Athlete Podcast.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: What's up, y'all?
- 0:13SPEAKER_00: It's your man Dr.
- 0:13SPEAKER_00: Kyle.
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: Philosophy hour, baby.
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: I'm always down for an existential conversation on deep philosophy, meaning of life, and the space-time continuum.
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: I'm a nerd, dude, with this stuff.
- 0:25SPEAKER_00: Let's let's rock.
- 0:26SPEAKER_00: And if you're a nerd too, let's go.
- 0:28SPEAKER_00: Let's rock together.
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: Um, this one, this chat is about um something that I, man, it was, it was mind.
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: This is an epiphany for me.
- 0:36SPEAKER_00: It was mind blowing.
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, this makes sense.
- 0:38SPEAKER_00: That I just I just resonate with this.
- 0:40SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: Is ikigai.
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: I K I G A I, Ikigai.
- 0:46SPEAKER_00: And it's a Japanese philosophy on the meaning and concept of life, your sense of belonging, your reason for being.
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: Ikigai means reason for being.
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: Um, and it's when imagine a Venn diagram of four circles and they all come together, and what the all the main center point that all four circles converge would be your ikigai.
- 1:09SPEAKER_00: And that is your reason for being.
- 1:10SPEAKER_00: It's your fulfillment, it's why your life's a sense of belonging.
- 1:15SPEAKER_00: Um, and it's uh super powerful, makes sense.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: I think this lens of perception of life, like because our our um beliefs, perspectives and beliefs shape our world.
- 1:29SPEAKER_00: Everybody has their own perspectives and beliefs, usually shaped by previous experiences and associations we make with different things.
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: And then I'm not a psychologist by any means, but what I've told, it's all kind of result resonates from unresolved childhood experiences.
- 1:42SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 1:42SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna say trauma because it's super cliche, but like unresolved childhood experiences or unprocessed childhood experiences because that shapes our perspective and beliefs throughout adolescence, early adulthood, adulthood.
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: And then other experiences that shape that too.
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: It's super interesting and cool.
- 1:59SPEAKER_00: Um, I think it's just interesting, right?
- 2:01SPEAKER_00: But hey, but it's a tool we can use to reflect and be like, what do I want?
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: What what do I what direction of life and what shapes my perspectives and beliefs?
- 2:09SPEAKER_00: And are they off?
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: Can I change my perspectives and beliefs?
- 2:13SPEAKER_00: And the answer is yes.
- 2:14SPEAKER_00: From what I've been told, I'm you know, it's difficult because you you dive back in and you fall back into your own previous experience triggers and um environment kind of shapes that too.
- 2:27SPEAKER_00: Uh, but anyway, Ikigai, and I think the other philosophy that I like to live by that also was kind of eye-opening for myself was stoicism.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: Um, some ancient um, you know, philosophy, some light reading on some ancient philosophy before bed.
- 2:44SPEAKER_00: It's just super interesting.
- 2:45SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, so ikigai is the Japanese concept meaning a reason for being.
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: It's four circles and a Venn diagram.
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: Okay, so circle number one, what you love.
- 2:57SPEAKER_00: Circle number two, what the world needs.
- 2:59SPEAKER_00: Circle three, what can I get paid for?
- 3:02SPEAKER_00: And then uh circle number four is what are you good at?
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: So what are you good at?
- 3:06SPEAKER_00: What do you love?
- 3:06SPEAKER_00: What does the world need?
- 3:08SPEAKER_00: And then what can I get paid for?
- 3:10SPEAKER_00: And then the middle of what all those things converge would be your Iki guy, and that would be like your your vocation.
- 3:15SPEAKER_00: What do you do?
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: What's your identity?
- 3:17SPEAKER_00: Well, how do you contribute to the community and your reason for being?
- 3:20SPEAKER_00: Other, I'm just curious.
- 3:22SPEAKER_00: Otherwise, what are we doing here?
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: Like, why do you want to be an accountant?
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: Or like, why do you want to be a physical therapist?
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: Why do you want to be a pastor?
- 3:30SPEAKER_00: Like, what led you to be the general manager of Enterprise Rent A Car?
- 3:35SPEAKER_00: Um, there's no shame in that.
- 3:37SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, like, I don't know if people woke up one day as a kid and said, you know what I want to be?
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: I want to be the general manager of a rental car uh space.
- 3:47SPEAKER_00: That would be awesome.
- 3:48SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: Like, that's my life calling.
- 3:50SPEAKER_00: I just don't think there's a there's a sense of awareness in my opinion, of like, because it's hard, man.
- 3:55SPEAKER_00: Like, not everybody's uh has a great childhood.
- 3:58SPEAKER_00: I I mean, every I was super blessed.
- 4:00SPEAKER_00: Um, both parents are still married, and like I didn't grow up in a broken home and like I didn't have abuse.
- 4:05SPEAKER_00: At least I don't think I had to dive more in that.
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: Um I had some you know difficult experiences, of course, everybody does, that shape perspectives and beliefs now.
- 4:14SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's I'm not knocking anybody, it's more just of like a little bit of a sense of purpose and reason for being.
- 4:23SPEAKER_00: What's your vocation and contribution to the community?
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: As a general manager of enterprise rental car, maybe your job, your vocation, your reason for being is to improve somebody's situation that needs a rental car because they just got in an accident of a car accident or they're traveling and they're stressed and they're anxious, and you make their experience of life like, hey, I want to take care of you.
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: Is everything's gonna be okay?
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: We're gonna um take care of this rental car situation for you and make it as seamless as possible.
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: And uh, and hopefully this you know will improve your situation and make you feel better, right?
- 4:56SPEAKER_00: Like that's amazing, right?
- 4:57SPEAKER_00: There's a there's a really interesting Chick-fil-A training video on that to highlig-fil-a, where they're like, you never know when everybody's at, and your ex your exchange with them um could be very meaningful, and you never know what they're doing.
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: They maybe this maybe they're at Chick-fil-A because they're driving home from the hospital.
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: They didn't want to cook tonight because their spouse just passed away and they're driving home.
- 5:18SPEAKER_00: Like you never know, you know what I mean?
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: And if someone's being an a-hole or just like short and condescending or something, um, it just might not be what you think.
- 5:27SPEAKER_00: And I'm not gonna be that person, right?
- 5:29SPEAKER_00: At least if I'm on the right mood.
- 5:31SPEAKER_00: And I'm trying to, I'm by no means my perfect, right?
- 5:34SPEAKER_00: Um, but I've been in bad moods before and I can be condescending and a jerk, but I try to be like, maybe this is not, maybe, maybe this is different, right?
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: I can be a little bit different.
- 5:43SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be the person.
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: It's on me.
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of the stoicism um philosophy.
- 5:48SPEAKER_00: Who better than me to have this situation?
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: Own that.
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: Um, that's that's one like aspect.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: And with Ikigai too being like, I have a meaningless job.
- 5:58SPEAKER_00: It's it's mundane, uh, it's menial, like, and there's this just uh little parable about like that.
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: I liked a lot, share it.
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: Um, is there's three stonemasons, and uh somebody walks up and says, Wow, you work with stone?
- 6:13SPEAKER_00: Like, this is pretty like you have a chisel and a hammer.
- 6:15SPEAKER_00: Like, how did you even get into this?
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: Like, this is takes a lot of skill.
- 6:18SPEAKER_00: You know, what are you doing?
- 6:20SPEAKER_00: He's like, Yeah.
- 6:21SPEAKER_00: First stonemason's like, I work with my hands all day on this stone, of these stones all day, every day.
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: My hands hurt.
- 6:29SPEAKER_00: I'm hammering away.
- 6:31SPEAKER_00: Like, this is meaningless.
- 6:32SPEAKER_00: I just bang a stone with a hammer, like all day, every day.
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: This is all I do.
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: Stonemason number two, they like walk up to this person like, oh man, that sucks, right?
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: Um, another stonemason and says, What, like, how did you guys get, how'd you get in this?
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: Like, this is super skillful.
- 6:47SPEAKER_00: Like, how does somebody just wake up and be a sculptor of hard stone with a hammer and a chisel?
- 6:51SPEAKER_00: Like, and we can it looks pretty cool.
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: Stonemason's like, Yeah, you know, I work with my hands.
- 6:56SPEAKER_00: Um, I, you know, I get to be creative.
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: I get to do, uh, I get to express my creativity in this.
- 7:02SPEAKER_00: Um, it's kind of cool.
- 7:04SPEAKER_00: Um, I am tired.
- 7:05SPEAKER_00: Um, I kind of wish I was indoors more because it's so hot.
- 7:09SPEAKER_00: Um, but you know, there's a little bit of creativity I can do with this, but ultimately I'm I'm just doing this row of stones for this wall, you know, um, or this chapel or something, or this cathedral.
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: And he's like, oh, well, all right.
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: And then Stonemason 3 is like, so how did you get into this?
- 7:25SPEAKER_00: Like, what do you, how'd you get to be this occupation, you know?
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: Stonemason three is like, oh, this is amazing.
- 7:31SPEAKER_00: Like I get to, I'm a part of this huge cathedral, and this stone is gonna last like hundreds of years.
- 7:38SPEAKER_00: And I get to put my own imprint in this, like my own special imprint and contribution to this huge cathedral that's gonna be here for a place of happiness and warmth and invitation for thousands of people throughout the world that'll come here and see this.
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: You might even see it from space.
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: It's so cool and big.
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: Like if you zoomed in enough, and like it's super um unique.
- 8:01SPEAKER_00: And like we have all these other people that are working too, like they're working on the inside and I'm working on the outside, and I get to express my creativity with how I'm doing this, and it's a part of this huge like cathedral.
- 8:10SPEAKER_00: Like three way different perspectives.
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: They're doing the same exact thing.
- 8:15SPEAKER_00: The only thing that's different is their perspective.
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: And my I want to be the third stonemason, as in like, I'm a part of something bigger than myself.
- 8:23SPEAKER_00: There's fulfillment in what I'm doing because I'm impacting people around me.
- 8:26SPEAKER_00: I'm choosing to believe that I'm impacting people around me in a positive way, more bigger than myself, big beyond myself.
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: Um, and I can impact the ripple effect.
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: You never know the ripple effect of improving that person's situation with your talents, knowledge, and skills that I bring to the table from in my community.
- 8:47SPEAKER_00: This is my contribution and my offering to the community.
- 8:50SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna do it for free.
- 8:52SPEAKER_00: You actually get better results when people pay because it there's more skin in the game and more meaning behind them seeing you and your services versus having it for free.
- 9:02SPEAKER_00: I have another philosophy on that too.
- 9:03SPEAKER_00: Um, but like it's not free.
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: But when I see you, I'm gonna do my best.
- 9:08SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna do the everything I can to make you better for what is it, what is it that you want?
- 9:13SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna, I'm gonna deliver the results as best as I can.
- 9:16SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna, I got you.
- 9:17SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm gonna do the best I can.
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna roll up my sleeves, critically think.
- 9:20SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna give a mediocre half job.
- 9:22SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm gonna, I'm gonna dive in and try hard.
- 9:25SPEAKER_00: All my talents, knowledge, skills, and experience that I can bring to the table to help you because I know this is gonna be impactful in your life.
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: You have, I'm gonna change your life.
- 9:33SPEAKER_00: I love saying that to people.
- 9:36SPEAKER_00: Um, that is not, I'm not faking it.
- 9:37SPEAKER_00: Like people come in and they're like, I have this shoulder thing going on.
- 9:39SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, oh, we can we're gonna fix this, we can fix that.
- 9:42SPEAKER_00: And then we're gonna get you in some uh fitness programming stuff that we like to do to help wean people before they go on their own thing and see other outside professionals if they like.
- 9:50SPEAKER_00: Um, we can hold your hand.
- 9:51SPEAKER_00: Like, this is gonna, this is gonna be a way different life trajectory.
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: And then you're gonna be able to play it with your family and your kids, your spouse, and then you can show them some cool stuff.
- 9:59SPEAKER_00: And maybe y'all can work out together, maybe you have family workouts together when you go uh eventually on your own.
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: Like, this is gonna change your life.
- 10:06SPEAKER_00: We're gonna change your life, dude.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: Like, this is gonna be awesome.
- 10:10SPEAKER_00: That's the lens that I like to have.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: I'm not lying, I'm not perfect, I'm not saying I'm an amazing person, just saying, if not, then what?
- 10:20SPEAKER_00: Then what?
- 10:20SPEAKER_00: Let's say you don't have the perspective.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: Like you did the first stonemason.
- 10:25SPEAKER_00: As in, like, yeah, I don't know.
- 10:27SPEAKER_00: I just I've stretched people out, you know, like I I helped them fix their rotator cuff pain or their back pain.
- 10:33SPEAKER_00: And then what?
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: Then yeah, then I just talk to the next person.
- 10:36SPEAKER_00: Um, there's just no passion behind that, you know.
- 10:39SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: This is my own perspective on this, but then I was exposed to this Ike guy thing, and I was like, yes, that is what I'm that's what I think it is.
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: It's this is my vocation.
- 10:50SPEAKER_00: This is my contribution to the community.
- 10:52SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna impact the community.
- 10:54SPEAKER_00: Um, the world needs it.
- 10:57SPEAKER_00: I've trained a lot and I'm good at it.
- 10:59SPEAKER_00: And I love puzzle piecing, and I'm a nerd with like the human body of like the musculoskeletal, neuromusculoskeletal, and pain, referred pain, pain structure, pain science.
- 11:09SPEAKER_00: Um, and then um, I'm not, I can get paid for it.
- 11:12SPEAKER_00: Like I need to make a living, you know what I'm saying?
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: It's and I'm gonna deliver value to the community and make the world a better place.
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: That's what I want to do, right?
- 11:20SPEAKER_00: And that center is the Ike guy.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: Um, it's interesting you break it down though.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: Let's say somebody has um, you know, I really love doing this and I'm good at it.
- 11:29SPEAKER_00: And just those two components, that would be your passion.
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: Let's say it's you really love it and it's the world needs, right?
- 11:35SPEAKER_00: I love it and the world needs it, but you can't exactly get paid for it and you're not really like really good at it.
- 11:41SPEAKER_00: You're not like an expert, um, like a doubt, like a grizzled expert in that particular field.
- 11:46SPEAKER_00: So you love it and the world needs it.
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: That's just your mission, all right?
- 11:49SPEAKER_00: Because there's you can't get paid for it and you're not great at it yet.
- 11:52SPEAKER_00: Um, what can you get paid for?
- 11:54SPEAKER_00: And then what the world needs, that would be your job.
- 11:56SPEAKER_00: All right, that's your occupation.
- 11:58SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 11:58SPEAKER_00: That's your vocation.
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: That's that's your occupation.
- 12:00SPEAKER_00: That's what you do for work.
- 12:02SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 12:02SPEAKER_00: Um, but there's no love behind it, like there's no passion through it.
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: And um, you're not amazing at like you're not an expert, you know, but like, but you can get paid for it and the world needs it, you know.
- 12:16SPEAKER_00: Um another one would be um you can get paid for it and you're good at it.
- 12:21SPEAKER_00: That would be your profession, all right?
- 12:22SPEAKER_00: Where those two meet, that'd be your profession.
- 12:24SPEAKER_00: But again, it's lacking a little bit of mission and um uh like of an occupational component that the world needs a lot of it, right?
- 12:34SPEAKER_00: I'm good at it and the world, you can get paid for it.
- 12:36SPEAKER_00: Not necessarily that's lacking the world, what the world needs and the love.
- 12:39SPEAKER_00: Um, that would be the the other four um aspect, descriptions of the other outside four circles when they meet together.
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: Um, the other interesting one is when three circles meet, but you're lacking the fourth, what you love, what you're good at, and what you're paid for, that center is satisfaction, but you feel a uselessness.
- 13:00SPEAKER_00: All right, because the world doesn't necessarily you don't feel the world needs it.
- 13:04SPEAKER_00: If it's what you love, what you need, and what you can get paid for, that center is excitement and complacency and a sense of uncertainty because you're not really, really good at it.
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: You're not a grizzled expert in that particular field thing, all right?
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: Um, what you can get paid for, um Yeah, those are the three.
- 13:23SPEAKER_00: Um, those are the three.
- 13:25SPEAKER_00: What you're what you're good at, what you can get paid for, and what the world needs, that would be a comfortable profession, but it leaves you empty because it's not what you love.
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: So those are the four um centers that have three of the four circles.
- 13:41SPEAKER_00: You have satisfaction, but you feel useful, useless.
- 13:44SPEAKER_00: Sorry, you have satisfaction, but you feel useless.
- 13:46SPEAKER_00: You're comfortable, but you feel empty.
- 13:48SPEAKER_00: There's delight and fullness, but there's no wealth.
- 13:50SPEAKER_00: That would be oh, sorry, the fourth one.
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: I missed this one.
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: It's what you're good at, what you love, and what the world needs.
- 13:55SPEAKER_00: You just can't get paid for it.
- 13:57SPEAKER_00: There's delight and fullness, fulfill fulfillment, but you um, there's no wealth, but you can't gain and gain full employment from that.
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: So that's what's missing in that one.
- 14:06SPEAKER_00: So um it's satisfaction with feeling, uselessness.
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: There's delight and fullness, fulfillment, but you don't really gain any um wealth behind it because you can't get paid for it.
- 14:16SPEAKER_00: There's excitement and complacency, but there's a sense of uncertainty because you're amazing at your job or your profession.
- 14:22SPEAKER_00: Um, there's a sense of being comfortable, and but you feel empty because there's no love behind what you're doing.
- 14:27SPEAKER_00: Um, so like the lack of satisfaction, um, the feeling of emptiness, like the thrill or like the passion.
- 14:33SPEAKER_00: Uh that's what's lacking on that one.
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: Um, but all four circles meeting together, that's the center point, and that's called your geeky guy.
- 14:41SPEAKER_00: So the other fla and the other philosophy that um and part of that too would be like like purposefully pursuing the joy in every day.
- 14:52SPEAKER_00: Um, and part of that's the little things and the um the non-measurable and tangible things, like impacting somebody's day um or getting a high five moment when somebody comes in and is like, hey, I was able to run three miles and I didn't hurt.
- 15:08SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 15:08SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, great.
- 15:09SPEAKER_00: Let's get on the, you know, let's go on the table, let's work on some stuff.
- 15:12SPEAKER_00: Like, that's awesome, right?
- 15:14SPEAKER_00: Like, dude, high five.
- 15:16SPEAKER_00: Like, you let's highlight a couple weeks ago, you weren't able to really jog at all and it had pain.
- 15:22SPEAKER_00: And now you're able to run three miles and have no pain.
- 15:24SPEAKER_00: Dude, imagine like a month from now if you continue the same trajectory.
- 15:28SPEAKER_00: Like, we're gonna change your life, right?
- 15:30SPEAKER_00: That's a that's a really cool high five moment.
- 15:32SPEAKER_00: And we love that.
- 15:33SPEAKER_00: That's what we live, like we love that stuff.
- 15:35SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: We were a part of that.
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: So without um our passion, knowledge, um, the fulfillment behind what we're doing, um, our vocation and profession, um, and the investment that they made with us to do and the trust that it takes to do that, without that, they wouldn't be able to run again.
- 15:55SPEAKER_00: Like, what's what what are the other options?
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: Take payments, injections, surgery again.
- 16:02SPEAKER_00: I don't hate those things, but we can't be dependent on that or view that as this the cure of success.
- 16:09SPEAKER_00: There, we at least at some point we have to dive into the actual movement correction and compensation patterns.
- 16:15SPEAKER_00: But anyway, hey, we were a part of that team, and uh, we were, hey, team, we were a part of that, and this patient's life, and how much more joy and fulfillment in their life do they have now that they can get back to running like they enjoy versus being told you can't run anymore, right?
- 16:32SPEAKER_00: We were a part of that, right?
- 16:33SPEAKER_00: It's awesome.
- 16:34SPEAKER_00: That would be our Ike guy, and that's like the um our purpose, purposefully living um and pursuing the joy in every day, and that'd be like the third stonemason, right?
- 16:45SPEAKER_00: Um, it's cool, it's fun.
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: I you you can purposely pick perspectives and beliefs to direct your life, and that's what I like doing, all right.
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: And if you're with me, let's rock.
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: Um, if you have conflicting opinions, I'm open to ideas, all right.
- 16:59SPEAKER_00: Um, anyway, the other component of this of life philosophy is um of a sprinkle of stoicism, all right.
- 17:09SPEAKER_00: Stoicism would be uh like the ancient Stoics, like Seneca, uh Marcus Aurelius, um, Epictetus.
- 17:16SPEAKER_00: Um, Ryan Holiday, by the way, he's like the master of Stoicism modern day.
- 17:21SPEAKER_00: He's like late 30s.
- 17:22SPEAKER_00: He wrote several books on stoicism.
- 17:25SPEAKER_00: Shout out to Ryan Holiday if you're listening, it'd be cool.
- 17:27SPEAKER_00: Um, but I I really enjoy this perspective and belief on life.
- 17:33SPEAKER_00: Stoicism, and contrary to what people might think, it's not about being stoically, emotionally stoic, as in like you're not allowed to feel emotions.
- 17:42SPEAKER_00: It's more about recognizing emotions and recognizing that we are in control of our emotions.
- 17:48SPEAKER_00: We can better manage our emotions.
- 17:51SPEAKER_00: Um, I think the better word is management versus control.
- 17:56SPEAKER_00: Um, we can manage our emotions.
- 17:58SPEAKER_00: It's okay to feel certain ways.
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: Let's identify that feeling, and then we can um identify what led to those feelings, and then we can better manage our feelings because that leads to better life trajectory, directional clarity and choices and decision making.
- 18:16SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm not gonna blow up on my wife, right?
- 18:18SPEAKER_00: Or like, I'm not gonna blow up on my kids and lose my temper, right?
- 18:22SPEAKER_00: Like it's okay to feel angry and frustrated.
- 18:25SPEAKER_00: What do you do with that?
- 18:26SPEAKER_00: How do you manage it?
- 18:27SPEAKER_00: Identify why you feel that way in this in the first place, and then identify what strategies can we do to manage it, all right?
- 18:34SPEAKER_00: If not, then we're just like an emotional roller coaster that's uncontrolled, right?
- 18:38SPEAKER_00: And that's gonna not lead to clarity and decision making and then just living a purposeful, joyful life, right?
- 18:44SPEAKER_00: Um, and also a lot of questions, as in like um not understanding the way that you feel.
- 18:51SPEAKER_00: Of all the some of the things I've been exposed to, and mentors and professionals and stuff, some books that I've read, like it's very interesting.
- 18:58SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of carryover with all these experts that don't know each other, and they all say the same thing.
- 19:04SPEAKER_00: Firstly, know thyself, like know yourself and manage your own emotions.
- 19:10SPEAKER_00: If you can't manage your own emotions, then you're gonna get tugged along and it's easier to be manipulated.
- 19:15SPEAKER_00: And then you're gonna be an emotional roller coaster and you're not gonna be really in best control of your life as you could be otherwise.
- 19:22SPEAKER_00: So um emotional management.
- 19:24SPEAKER_00: It's really what it comes down to.
- 19:25SPEAKER_00: The other really strong point that I took away from stoicism is like identify the things that you can change, identify the things you cannot change, and then start taking actions on the things you can change to improve whatever situation you're in.
- 19:38SPEAKER_00: It's not wise, it's a wisdom thing that I'm always working on and I'm not perfect.
- 19:44SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 19:44SPEAKER_00: Wisdom being I know the right answer.
- 19:47SPEAKER_00: Can you implement upon that right answer?
- 19:50SPEAKER_00: Knowing the answer is intellect.
- 19:53SPEAKER_00: Um, taking action along the right answer and doing the thing that is the right answer is challenging.
- 20:00SPEAKER_00: And that would be the wisdom component.
- 20:02SPEAKER_00: And it takes a lot of emotional management to do that wisdom component.
- 20:06SPEAKER_00: But identifying the things I can't control, um, and then identifying the things that I can control, and then take action on things that you can.
- 20:14SPEAKER_00: So let's say you're driving and you're late for work or late for an appointment, like whatever, and you're stressed, like, gosh, I'm late, like whatever.
- 20:20SPEAKER_00: Hit a train, hit a stoplight, a pedestrian tripped and fell in front of you, said to break for them.
- 20:25SPEAKER_00: So just like added more time and you're frustrated, like, ah, a train, oh, a stoplight.
- 20:32SPEAKER_00: You're allowed to feel frustrated.
- 20:34SPEAKER_00: The next thing, like, and this is what I was told to do.
- 20:37SPEAKER_00: And I mean, I love this.
- 20:39SPEAKER_00: You're in the car, you're driving.
- 20:40SPEAKER_00: Raise your hand in the air and verbally say out loud, I am frustrated right now because I'm late.
- 20:47SPEAKER_00: And this train came and is making me more late, and I am feeling frustrated.
- 20:53SPEAKER_00: Next statement validate yourself and say, that's okay.
- 20:56SPEAKER_00: You're allowed to feel frustrated.
- 20:58SPEAKER_00: Take a deep breath and then say, Can I actually control the fact that a train came right now?
- 21:04SPEAKER_00: No.
- 21:04SPEAKER_00: Can I control the fact that the light turned red?
- 21:07SPEAKER_00: No.
- 21:07SPEAKER_00: So I've already validated my emotions.
- 21:09SPEAKER_00: I've already felt my emotions.
- 21:10SPEAKER_00: Totally cool.
- 21:11SPEAKER_00: I'm not telling you to suppress emotions or tell yourself not to feel a certain way.
- 21:15SPEAKER_00: I totally disagree with that because it just leaves us suppress emotions over and over again.
- 21:19SPEAKER_00: Um, but rather identify the emotion, call out that I am feeling a certain way, and then say it's okay to feel that way.
- 21:27SPEAKER_00: You're late.
- 21:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're frustrated.
- 21:29SPEAKER_00: This thing happened unforeseen and you weren't expecting it to happen, and it's making you more late.
- 21:34SPEAKER_00: Man, that is frustrating.
- 21:35SPEAKER_00: You're allowed to feel frustrated because of this.
- 21:37SPEAKER_00: Man, I feel better already just with that.
- 21:39SPEAKER_00: Like honestly, I feel like in that situation, by doing that, I feel better.
- 21:43SPEAKER_00: Take a deep breath.
- 21:45SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's identify what I can control in this situation.
- 21:47SPEAKER_00: Can I control the train?
- 21:48SPEAKER_00: No.
- 21:48SPEAKER_00: Can I control the light?
- 21:49SPEAKER_00: No.
- 21:49SPEAKER_00: Can I control the pedestrian that fell in front of me?
- 21:51SPEAKER_00: No.
- 21:52SPEAKER_00: Can I control the traffic that's impeding my progress?
- 21:56SPEAKER_00: No.
- 21:57SPEAKER_00: Can I control that I could have left earlier?
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: Could I have control that I got my clothes on and got brushed my teeth earlier?
- 22:05SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 22:05SPEAKER_00: Could I control the speed at which I just eat my breakfast?
- 22:08SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 22:09SPEAKER_00: Could I control that my kids needed to go to the bathroom before I left?
- 22:13SPEAKER_00: No.
- 22:14SPEAKER_00: So all those things kind of add up, right?
- 22:16SPEAKER_00: So I'm just identifying throughout the day at the time that I'm feeling frustrated, what made me feel frustrated and identify what I can change and what I cannot change.
- 22:25SPEAKER_00: Why wrestle with the things that you can't control?
- 22:28SPEAKER_00: There's no, there's no benefit to that.
- 22:30SPEAKER_00: You can identify the things you can control and you can feel frustrated that you can't, that things are impacting it negatively, negatively in your situation, but ultimately you can't control them.
- 22:40SPEAKER_00: So there is no benefit to wrestling.
- 22:43SPEAKER_00: It's a wrestling match versus the dance with life that I was told.
- 22:48SPEAKER_00: I like that.
- 22:49SPEAKER_00: I'm just wrestling and with an unmanageable, an uncontrollable, immovable, unstoppable object, which is things I can't control.
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: I literally can't control it.
- 23:01SPEAKER_00: So I can't wrestle with I could, but I'm gonna choose not to wrestle with that, and I'm gonna choose not to focus on that.
- 23:08SPEAKER_00: All I can do from this point forward is control the things I can control, which is my speed limit and my emotional state.
- 23:16SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 23:17SPEAKER_00: I can manage my current emotions.
- 23:19SPEAKER_00: It's okay to feel this way, and that's why we go through stress management strategies or anxiety management strategies.
- 23:24SPEAKER_00: It's usually anxiety.
- 23:26SPEAKER_00: And I was told that too.
- 23:27SPEAKER_00: Um, but that's the only thing I can control.
- 23:29SPEAKER_00: I can manage my emotions.
- 23:30SPEAKER_00: Identifying usually helps.
- 23:32SPEAKER_00: And then identifying like things I can't control identify uh helps a lot too.
- 23:35SPEAKER_00: And then um I'm gonna say I'm gonna choose from this point forward um to appreciate the opportunity that I have to do X, Y, and Z, whatever.
- 23:44SPEAKER_00: Um, and that would be steps towards managing emotions.
- 23:49SPEAKER_00: Imagine not living like that.
- 23:51SPEAKER_00: And this is my own, as I'm talking to myself, hey Kyle, imagine not living like that.
- 23:55SPEAKER_00: Then you're just like a small vessel in an ocean of a hurricane blowing in the wind with no direct sense of direction, and you're not in control of your own sails.
- 24:06SPEAKER_00: That would that's how I envision living life, not aware of my emotional states and wrestling with things that I can't control anyway.
- 24:16SPEAKER_00: Um, things I cannot control anyway.
- 24:18SPEAKER_00: Like that's it's a bummer, right?
- 24:20SPEAKER_00: Um, and then the serenity prayer, the stoic serenity prayer.
- 24:24SPEAKER_00: Um it helped me to identify the things I can I can control and not control, give me the wisdom um to know the difference.
- 24:32SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think that it has been a game changer too, and I really um like that.
- 24:37SPEAKER_00: Let me read it verbatim.
- 24:38SPEAKER_00: Um this identity, I mean uh the serenity prayer.
- 24:42SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 24:42SPEAKER_00: Um hang on one second.
- 24:44SPEAKER_00: Um I don't have it memorized.
- 24:47SPEAKER_00: Forgive me.
- 24:54SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, the serenity prayer has deep roots.
- 24:59SPEAKER_00: Um hey God, grant me this, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.
- 25:04SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's the acceptance.
- 25:05SPEAKER_00: You have to accept that you can't you can't control and can't contain you cannot change things.
- 25:10SPEAKER_00: So grant me the strength serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
- 25:18SPEAKER_00: Um, it's just a lack of clarity.
- 25:20SPEAKER_00: Um, it's a dichotomy of control, as in like I am control of ultimately what's up to me.
- 25:26SPEAKER_00: There's some things that are um in our control and other things that are not in our control.
- 25:30SPEAKER_00: Things that are in our control are opinion, pursuit, desires, aversions, and whatever are our own actions.
- 25:38SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 25:39SPEAKER_00: Um, things that are not in our control are our physical body, like we can't control getting sick, um, the property that we own, our reputation, because that's other people's opinions, um, command, and whatever things are not our own actions.
- 25:54SPEAKER_00: So we have to identify what those are, accept that we can't change them.
- 25:58SPEAKER_00: Otherwise, you're gonna wrestle with it the whole time.
- 26:00SPEAKER_00: It's only gonna lead to frustration and difficulty that creates anxiety and angst in life.
- 26:07SPEAKER_00: Um, and then identify the things you can control, take the courage to change those things and implement where you can, take actionable strategy steps, and then the wisdom to know the know the difference.
- 26:16SPEAKER_00: Um, I think that just helps with a lot of clarity and emotional management.
- 26:21SPEAKER_00: Uh, but that has really helped me too.
- 26:23SPEAKER_00: Um, the Daily Stoic is a cool book.
- 26:25SPEAKER_00: It's a Ryan Holiday book.
- 26:26SPEAKER_00: So, Daily Stoic, The Obstacle is the way and ego is the enemy.
- 26:31SPEAKER_00: Those are the ones that I really um I highly recommend.
- 26:34SPEAKER_00: And uh, but anyway, that's my philosophy on life, all right, is a little bit of stoicism um and um Ikigai.
- 26:43SPEAKER_00: All right, like what's your purpose and belonging in life?
- 26:45SPEAKER_00: What's your vocation and your community contributions that you can make a positive impact while also get having gainful employment through that?
- 26:54SPEAKER_00: That's your purpose, that's your belonging, that's your reason for being, your contributions to the community and part of your identity, you know, as in like I help people, right?
- 27:04SPEAKER_00: Um, and then uh with a stoicism lens.
- 27:07SPEAKER_00: What things can I control?
- 27:08SPEAKER_00: And it's and for and what things can I control, what things cannot control, um, emotional management.
- 27:13SPEAKER_00: Um, and then it helps with trajectory, clarity, and decision making.
- 27:17SPEAKER_00: Um, and then also just not being an emotional roller coaster, like a small vessel in an ocean of a hurricane.
- 27:22SPEAKER_00: Um, I mean, like you're just getting tugged around and you're a slave to your own emotions.
- 27:25SPEAKER_00: That ultimately also what it comes down to, too.
- 27:27SPEAKER_00: So, anyway, uh, that's my thoughts on that.
- 27:29SPEAKER_00: I love that.
- 27:30SPEAKER_00: Um and I'm not gonna, I mean, I'm a Christian as well.
- 27:33SPEAKER_00: So it's a Christian lens of ikigai and stoicism.
- 27:37SPEAKER_00: And I think that's just I just I'm just nerd out on that stuff.
- 27:40SPEAKER_00: I think it's super interesting.
- 27:41SPEAKER_00: I'm always open to ideas.
- 27:42SPEAKER_00: Um, so if you have any questions, comments, concerns, conflicting opinions, don't hesitate to reach out.
- 27:46SPEAKER_00: And if you're battling any pain that you feel like is limiting you with your life and functionality and enjoyment of physical activities, please don't hesitate to reach out.
- 27:53SPEAKER_00: We can at least chat on the phone and have an idea of what have you you have going on and how we might be able to fix it.
- 27:57SPEAKER_00: Um, and ultimately people usually ask is like, what's going on?
- 28:02SPEAKER_00: Why did it happen?
- 28:04SPEAKER_00: How do we fix it?
- 28:05SPEAKER_00: And then how do we prevent it from coming back?
- 28:07SPEAKER_00: Those are usually the four questions people want to know.
- 28:09SPEAKER_00: And it helps with the closure and it helps with um identifying the issue, and it helps with a little bit of motivation as like, oh, there is a pathway, there is a reason, there's a there is a way out of this.
- 28:19SPEAKER_00: There's a there is light at the end of the tunnel to fix this thing.
- 28:22SPEAKER_00: So don't hesitate to reach out.
- 28:23SPEAKER_00: We'd love to chat, and we'll uh catch you all next time.