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The DiCecco Daily: Sights, Sounds From The Locker Room As Birds Prepare For Cowboys · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: It's Andrew DiCecco, Eagles beat reporter for InsideTheBirds.com. And just
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: some programming notes in terms of the coverage. I will
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: have the rookie diary with Eagles guard Micah Morris on
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: the podcasting platform in the next day or so. We
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: recorded our conversation on Friday. The written piece will be
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: over on InsideTheBirds.com this weekend. I will be doing a
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: notebook where it's sort of leftovers that I do from
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: things I picked up that I think are pretty interesting
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: in the locker room, including a fun conversation I had
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  Speaker 1: with Reek Wohan, because as it turns out in my research,
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: I found that Reek Wohan and I share the same
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: favorite movie, and that is Beverly Hills Cop. So we
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: spoke for five minutes or so just talking about that.
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  Speaker 2: And I like doing those type of things because there are.
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  Speaker 1: other things that I like to get into besides football
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: football's first and foremost, of course, but there's also different
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  Speaker 1: elements that I like to incorporate because it allows you
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: to get to know the player behind the helmet and,
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: and kind of what they're all about. So that was
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: a fun chat that we had Hollywood Brown. We heard
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  Speaker 1: from him. That'll be in the notebook as well. And
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  Speaker 1: there are some other things I'm sure that I'll come across.
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: Hopefully I'll get to talk to Joe Milton and, and
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday and that will end up in my notebook
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: as well just some some short notes just to bring
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: you some of that coverage because I don't want it
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  Speaker 1: to be on the cutting room floor so all that
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  Speaker 1: and more coming your way of course the Eagles face
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and Monday Night Football at home at
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  Speaker 1: Lincoln Financial Field and today's practice was the equivalent of
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  Speaker 1: a normal Thursday practice so it's the longest and most
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  Speaker 1: intense of the week for the Eagles and They have
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  Speaker 1: a pretty lengthy injury report. We'll talk about what that
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  Speaker 1: means momentarily. So, not practicing. Defensive back Michael Carter, abdomen.
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  Speaker 1: Tight end Dallas Goddard, knee. Outside linebacker Jonathan Grenard, ankle.
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  Speaker 1: Wide receiver Devontae Smith, hamstring. Outside linebacker Nolan Smith, concussion.
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  Speaker 1: And wide receiver Dontavian Wicks, ankle. Okay, so I mentioned
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday, which was the first practice of the week,
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  Speaker 1: that you never want to overreact to the first day
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  Speaker 1: because there are different things that the team could be doing.
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  Speaker 1: For example, on the first day, when you don't see
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  Speaker 1: Devontae Smith practice, perhaps that had to do with trying
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  Speaker 1: to maintain the injury and get him to Monday night
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  Speaker 1: and just try to preserve it and lessen the wear
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  Speaker 1: and tear on the hamstring. But.
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  Speaker 2: For a second day, Devontae's sidelined. Not a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: He's been battling this hamstring really since August, and it
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  Speaker 1: seemingly gets aggravated with, you know, the second he gets
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  Speaker 1: back out there, it gets aggravated again seemingly, and that's
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  Speaker 1: something that only rest will allow that to fully heal.
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  Speaker 1: And in a season where you need all your playmakers
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  Speaker 1: as you're sitting there at 2-4, It's difficult.
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  Speaker 2: He's your top receiver.
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  Speaker 1: And you also have to make sure that the player
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  Speaker 1: is remaining healthy and doing everything that he can.
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  Speaker 2: And he certainly is. That's Devontae Smith.
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  Speaker 1: He's a consummate professional. But there's not a lot you
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  Speaker 1: can do for a hamstring.
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  Speaker 2: It just needs time.
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  Speaker 1: And while I'm going through these injuries, there's just something
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  Speaker 1: that I want to say here because I noticed some
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  Speaker 1: of the comments on social media. Like, for example, when
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  Speaker 1: I put out there that no practice or no sign
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  Speaker 1: of Jonathan Bernard with the ankle, he wasn't on the practice.
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  Speaker 2: Field when we were out there.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of really aggressive comments in terms of just
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  Speaker 1: saying he's a bust, he's this, he's that, he's not
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  Speaker 1: trying or whatever it is. And look, don't you think
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  Speaker 1: that the player wants to be out there? And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not speaking to the vast majority, but it feels like
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  Speaker 1: in a season like this where injuries are compiling and
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's going to be public frustration. I understand that.
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  Speaker 1: But no one's going to be more frustrated than the
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  Speaker 1: player themselves. They want to be out there. They are
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  Speaker 1: doing everything that they can to be out there.
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  Speaker 2: And it shouldn't be.
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  Speaker 1: Like, injuries happen. They're a part of the game. Every
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  Speaker 1: team experiences it. The Eagles have been very fortunate over
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  Speaker 1: the past... several years that they've alluded the injury bug,
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  Speaker 1: but it's gotten them this year. And in this case,
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  Speaker 1: look at edge rusher. It's gotten them pretty good. And
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  Speaker 1: the running back room, two of the guys are on
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  Speaker 1: injured reserve. And so these things happen, but the frustration
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  Speaker 1: should not be directed at the player. It's the circumstance
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  Speaker 1: that you should be frustrated with, not the player. I
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  Speaker 1: can assure you that they're doing everything that they can
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  Speaker 1: to be out there. No one wants to miss time
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  Speaker 1: and not be a.
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  Speaker 2: Part of it.
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  Speaker 1: So that's just sort of a public service announcement because
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  Speaker 1: I see it, whether it be in my comments or
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  Speaker 1: just scrolling through X, and it just feels like it's
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  Speaker 1: really unnecessary. And I think a lot of the anger
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  Speaker 1: is misdirected. A lot of the frustration is certainly misdirected.
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  Speaker 1: We got a chance to talk to Hollywood Brown today.
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  Speaker 1: And I have to say, I'm really impressed with the
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  Speaker 1: way that he's handled everything. Pretty much the sentiment is
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  Speaker 1: he's doing his best to navigate not playing. And he
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  Speaker 1: said he's handling it much better now than he would
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  Speaker 1: have if he were a younger player in his younger years.
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  Speaker 1: but he's just patiently waiting for his opportunity. He said,
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  Speaker 1: I got good teammates. I've got good coaches. He has
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  Speaker 1: a positive mindset and a positive outlook. And I can
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  Speaker 1: tell you from being around, you know, the team all season,
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  Speaker 1: he's carried himself like a true professional hasn't sulked, hasn't
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  Speaker 1: hung his head. It isn't complaining.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, not there's no woe is me.
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  Speaker 1: He's approaching it like a, like a professional and he
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  Speaker 1: understands the situation. Now you're not going to be overly,
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  Speaker 1: if you're, if you're a competitor at the highest level,
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  Speaker 1: you're never going to be okay with not playing, but
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  Speaker 1: it's something that he's learning to, he's learning to deal
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  Speaker 1: with because everywhere he's gone, he's been a focal point
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  Speaker 1: in an offense. This is a guy who was a
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  Speaker 1: first round pick. And so this is sort of uncharted
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  Speaker 1: territory for him. But I was really impressed with how
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  Speaker 1: he's handled himself and how he what he had to
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  Speaker 1: say today. And he said he's just taking it day
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  Speaker 1: by day. And when he gets his opportunity, he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be ready. And that's what he's focusing on. He
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  Speaker 1: he talked about, you know, his comfort level in the offense.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, I mean, I'm pretty comfortable here. it
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  Speaker 1: takes all 11.
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  Speaker 2: It can never be one guy.
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  Speaker 1: So just coming out for, for everybody trying to execute
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  Speaker 1: and stay above the sticks.
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  Speaker 2: I think that'll be important.
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  Speaker 1: He mentioned that he, you know, when, when it was
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  Speaker 1: brought to his attention, you know, we, we thought you
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  Speaker 1: had a good training camp and, did you expect to
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  Speaker 1: play more? He said, yeah, I did, but I do
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  Speaker 1: understand stuff happens. I mean, you can't take nothing personal
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  Speaker 1: in this business. So you kind of just got to
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  Speaker 1: go about your process. And when that time happens, whatever happens,
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  Speaker 1: you just got to be ready for it.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a veteran answer.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, in terms of it being a
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  Speaker 1: hard lesson for a lot of people to learn, how
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  Speaker 1: did you realize and navigate that? And he said, definitely
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  Speaker 1: just being older and being in the league for a minute.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have handled it well as a younger guy,
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  Speaker 1: but now just knowing I'm blessed to be here.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, my plan is not always my plan. It's
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  Speaker 2: God's plan.
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  Speaker 1: And the more I got comfortable with that, I can't
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  Speaker 1: be mad about a situation because maybe that's not what
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  Speaker 1: God called for me.
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  Speaker 1: So there you have it, just a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a sample size of what Hollywood Brown had to say.
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  Speaker 1: So the reason why I bring that up is because
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  Speaker 1: I just mentioned the injuries to Wicks and Devontae. All
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, and he was inactive last week, a
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  Speaker 1: healthy scratch, you may need to rely on a Hollywood Brown.
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  Speaker 1: You're certainly going to have to call upon Darius Cooper.
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  Speaker 1: and Makai Lemon for larger roles, Elijah Moore there as well.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm curious to see what Hollywood Brown can do if,
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  Speaker 1: in fact, you don't get Dontavion or Devontae, because he
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  Speaker 1: does have speed. He does have a certain skill set
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  Speaker 1: that I think would complement what they have in terms
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  Speaker 1: of their other players. He is good in the open field.
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  Speaker 1: He has good short area quickness. Maybe the Eagles will
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  Speaker 1: use him as a deep threat. He hasn't been used
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  Speaker 1: in that capacity in his career, but I just want
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  Speaker 1: to just sort of emphasize that he's handled himself about
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  Speaker 1: as well as anyone could expect for someone who's always
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  Speaker 1: grown accustomed to playing, as evidenced by some of the
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  Speaker 1: answers I just read for you from my transcript from
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  Speaker 1: the interview. So, and he spoke to a small group
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  Speaker 1: of us that were standing at his locker after Makai
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  Speaker 1: Lemon spoke.
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  Speaker 2: So, it was good to hear from Hollywood.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's get to some of the other injuries, the
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  Speaker 1: limited participants, because there are some names there that I will,
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  Speaker 1: I will touch on and kind of give you an
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  Speaker 1: idea of what I'm expecting. Limited running back, Saquon Barkley,
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  Speaker 1: hamstring guard, Landon Dickerson, knee pectoral, outside linebacker, AJ Epinesa, back,
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  Speaker 1: outside linebacker, J. Lux Hunt, knee ankle, tackle Fred Johnson, illness.
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  Speaker 1: guard Willie Lampkin, illness. Defensive tackle Mauro Jomo, abdomen and
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  Speaker 1: guard Tyler Steen, shoulder. Saquon Barkley, there's been no setback.
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  Speaker 1: He was limited on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: He's limited again.
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  Speaker 1: That would seemingly bode well for his prospects of playing
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  Speaker 1: on Monday night. And needless to say, that gives the
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Eagles an offensive centerpiece that they can lean on.
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  Speaker 2: They have to get this running game going.
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  Speaker 1: And I know we talk a lot about Saquon Barkley,
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  Speaker 1: the player, the on-field impact. And I may have mentioned
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  Speaker 1: this yesterday, but I want to talk about it again.
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  Speaker 1: Not enough is made about Saquon Barkley, the leader. Because
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  Speaker 1: while Saquon's been out, Jordan Mailata has done a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the heavy lifting, at least as far as we
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  Speaker 1: can see from a media perspective. It's been Jordan Mailata
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  Speaker 1: sort of taking center stage and being the spokesperson, handling
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  Speaker 1: all the questions, and really being the guy who's guiding
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these players through uncharted territory. But Saquon Barkley,
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  Speaker 1: you can just see that being a leader is effortless
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  Speaker 1: to him. And his perspective on things and positive mindset,
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  Speaker 1: I think, goes a long way in terms of just
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  Speaker 1: keeping things together and not letting it get away. And
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  Speaker 1: he's been through some bad times with the New York Giants,
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  Speaker 1: needless to say.
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  Speaker 2: And in Philadelphia, there haven't been many.
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  Speaker 1: And for a lot of the players in that locker
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  Speaker 1: room that are coming from winning college programs like Georgia
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  Speaker 1: and Alabama, for example, this is something that they're not
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  Speaker 1: accustomed to. And so having someone there that are sort
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  Speaker 1: of really stabilizing presences like Jordan Maillard and Saquon Barkley
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  Speaker 1: are much needed for a time like this, especially, and
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  Speaker 1: I say this again, when you don't have Elaine Johnson
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  Speaker 1: or Cam Juergens or, of course, Jalen Hurts. you need
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  Speaker 1: to be able to have some of those faces, those names,
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  Speaker 1: and those presences to really guide this team through this
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  Speaker 1: adversity right now that they're going through. And I've said
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  Speaker 1: this before, and I'll say it again. I've said it
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  Speaker 1: last year. I've said it the year before. Saquon Barkley
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  Speaker 1: is just a natural born leader, and it's conveyed in
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  Speaker 1: his answers. It's conveyed in his conviction and his messaging.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that that is going to be a
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  Speaker 1: huge asset. You can lead while you're not playing. There's
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  Speaker 1: things you can do in the meeting rooms. There's things
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  Speaker 1: you can do on the sideline. But when you're on
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  Speaker 1: the field now, you couple that with your inherent leadership qualities,
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  Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden you're able to really–
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  Speaker 1: impart your message on your teammates. And I think Saquon
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  Speaker 1: is a really good complement to what they have.
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  Speaker 2: As a leadership, in terms of leadership with Jordan Mailata.
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  Speaker 1: So Saquon, I think, is trending towards being available on
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  Speaker 1: Monday night, which will be a huge boost for this
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  Speaker 1: Eagles offense. Landon Dickerson, limited again, knee pectoral. So let
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  Speaker 1: me just tell you the offensive line configuration that we saw.
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  Speaker 2: And it was brief. We were out there.
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  Speaker 1: For about maybe 20-ish minutes or so on Friday, and
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  Speaker 1: from left to right, it was Jordan Mailata, Landon Dickerson,
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  Speaker 1: Drew Kendall, Tyler Steen, and Markel Bell. That's the best
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  Speaker 1: five that they can field right now, and I think
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  Speaker 1: you feel pretty good about that. If you're able to
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  Speaker 1: get that lineup on Monday night, a lot needs to
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  Speaker 1: be determined before then, but I think Landon being there,
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  Speaker 1: if he's able to be available Monday night, be your
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  Speaker 1: left guard. That physicality, that power that he brings, that
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  Speaker 1: road grader style that he has should help. You couple
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  Speaker 1: that with Jordan Milato on the left side and all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden with Saquon Barkley back there, it may
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  Speaker 1: not be as tough sledding as it's been in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the running game. And as we get to The
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  Speaker 1: full participants, there's a name on there that I'll circle
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  Speaker 1: back on, but full. Zach Bond, shoulder. Cornerback, Ja'Corian Bennett, knee.
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  Speaker 1: Wide receiver, Hollywood Brown, ankle. Tight end, Grant Calcaterra, back. Linebacker,
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  Speaker 1: Jahad Campbell, wrist. Defensive tackle, Jalen Carter, wrist. Wide receiver,
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  Speaker 1: Britton Covey, shoulder. Defensive tackle, Jordan Davis, shin, thumb. Outside linebacker,
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  Speaker 1: Arnold Evacati, shoulder. Center, Drew Kendall, knee. Tight end, Eli Stowers, quad.
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  Speaker 1: The name that should ring a bell here, or that
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  Speaker 1: should really resonate being on this list, is center Drew Kendall,
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  Speaker 1: who for the first time in a couple weeks has
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  Speaker 1: been upgraded. He was limited yesterday. He's now a full participant,
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  Speaker 1: and I just outlined the offensive line configuration that we
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  Speaker 1: saw in the early stages of practice, and that would
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  Speaker 1: seemingly be Bode well for Drew Kendall.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, he's full.
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  Speaker 1: And assuming there's no setbacks between now and then, he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be your center. And now if you all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden get Landon in the mix, that gives
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  Speaker 1: you a little bit more of a stabilizing, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more stability there on the offensive line. And Jordan Davis, again,
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  Speaker 1: full participant with the shin, thumb. But just circling back
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  Speaker 1: really quickly to the limited participants, Jalex Hunt, that's also
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  Speaker 1: a positive sign that there was no setback.
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  Speaker 2: He was limited again. Now, Vic Van Joe said it's possible.
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine if you have your druthers, you would
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  Speaker 1: want to give Jalex another week to recover from that
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  Speaker 1: and ensure that he's as close to full strength as possible.
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  Speaker 1: But you also need bodies, and Jalex is the ultimate
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  Speaker 1: competitor there. as Vic Fangio said last week, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure he's going to do everything that he can to
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  Speaker 1: be available.
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  Speaker 1: And as I mentioned, the Eagles have some open roster spots.
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine one of those will go to Zach
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they need another tight end on the roster.
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  Speaker 1: They waived EJ Jenkins on Thursday. They also need another
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  Speaker 1: and that player would have to be Elijah Mitchell, remember.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it could be Jaden Blue as well. He's on
• 22:15
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  Speaker 1: But remember that Carson Steele was waived injured, and Shipley
• 22:20
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  Speaker 1: Mitchell who gets the nod. And he's done well in
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• 22:31
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• 22:57
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  Speaker 1: to talk to Elijah Mitchell and add that into my
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  Speaker 2: He's in Kyle Shanahan's system with the 49ers.
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  Speaker 1: He was a starting running back for a while, was
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  Speaker 1: ravaged by injuries or plagued by injuries in his career. And,
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious to hear his perspective on the
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  Speaker 1: just to get a little bit better background, because we
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  Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to speak to him in the
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  Speaker 1: brief time that he was there in training camp.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, I gave you a lot of information.
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  Speaker 1: But with that, that will do it for this episode
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: of DiCecco Daily. I'm Andrew DiCecco, and I'll catch you
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  Speaker 1: all on the next one.