Latest / Jess Ask / What Does a Relationship with the Holy Spirit Actually Look Like? | EP167
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- 0:07Speaker 1: Yo, it's your girl, Jessica as Smith, and you already
- 0:10Speaker 1: know that you've entered the safe space for influencers to decompress,
- 0:14Speaker 1: have fun and just ask God.
- 0:17Speaker 2: For another Do you already know what it is? And
- 0:19Speaker 2: then you know it's about to get real.
- 0:22Speaker 1: To be sure to show your girl the love and like,
- 0:26Speaker 1: come in subscribe God for another day?
- 0:30Speaker 3: Hey, hey, I know we could be another way.
- 0:37Speaker 2: One. It's a new weeknd.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Just as the podcast The Safe Space with Transparency, me's transformation.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Is your girl, Jessica as Smith? And I do nothing
- 0:47Speaker 1: without my girl?
- 0:48Speaker 2: Does a righty?
- 0:50Speaker 1: Right?
- 0:51Speaker 2: Does a rape? Doesn't rape? Does a rape? Does a rate?
- 0:53Speaker 2: Doesn't rape?
- 0:54Speaker 1: Hey?
- 0:55Speaker 2: Ware, you know that you're swimming? We your hand balled
- 1:01Speaker 2: up age?
- 1:03Speaker 1: Yes?
- 1:04Speaker 2: Try it again? Does a rake? Does a right? Can
- 1:12Speaker 2: we call somebody? And now you're doing spirit fear des right?
- 1:16Speaker 2: How are you? Let's just let's just I'm great, Jessica.
- 1:20Speaker 2: How are you doing today? I am tired. I ain't
- 1:23Speaker 2: gonna to see you her her sleepy. I know that
- 1:29Speaker 2: good couch weather with a blankets. I got a lot
- 1:33Speaker 2: of stuff to do, but who about to get it done?
- 1:36Speaker 2: But I'm probably gonna go home. Yeah, like I got,
- 1:39Speaker 2: I got plenty of dud. That's always, always, always are
- 1:44Speaker 2: you doing to sister?
- 1:46Speaker 1: Yeah? Like again, but I want to tell on you
- 1:50Speaker 1: real quick. I want to tell on you. So y'all
- 1:54Speaker 1: know desate to get married, and because we've had this
- 2:01Speaker 1: conversation openly, so yeah, she knows. The question has not
- 2:07Speaker 1: been popped as of this recording day, okay, because you
- 2:11Speaker 1: never know.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Things could change quickly. However, we know that you about
- 2:16Speaker 2: to get married. You gotta get herried.
- 2:18Speaker 1: And the Man of God surprised you not too long ago. Yeah,
- 2:23Speaker 1: let's talk about.
- 2:24Speaker 2: That openly, openly.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Okay, openly, he surprised you not too long ago with
- 2:30Speaker 1: his presence. Do you want to tell the people how
- 2:33Speaker 1: you respond it? My brain was confused. Okay, well we
- 2:38Speaker 1: know by it from history. I don't do surprises very much.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Interesting What history was that when I thought I was
- 2:48Speaker 1: going to do a photo shoot for my birthday, some
- 2:51Speaker 1: content for my birthday, and I show up and the
- 2:52Speaker 1: people said, have a birthday desert, and my brain.
- 2:56Speaker 2: This is I literally my brain be like I ain't
- 2:59Speaker 2: w TF. Yeah, what's hi?
- 3:05Speaker 1: She literally if y'all didn't see the video, she literally
- 3:08Speaker 1: tried to turn around and exit her own party.
- 3:11Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, she tried to turn around
- 3:15Speaker 2: her own party.
- 3:17Speaker 1: But yeah, so I was when I was just confused
- 3:19Speaker 1: because I didn't know what was happening. But also, and
- 3:21Speaker 1: I promise you, my brain literally was doing this. So
- 3:24Speaker 1: I'm the type I struggle. I have struggled these last
- 3:28Speaker 1: few entrepreneur years with tasking and time management, getting things done,
- 3:34Speaker 1: feeling feeling like I'm doing things efficiently, and there are
- 3:39Speaker 1: some days it's just a battle, right, and then the
- 3:42Speaker 1: next day I'm like, dang, I got all this. We
- 3:43Speaker 1: just talked about always having stuff to do, right, so,
- 3:45Speaker 1: because you know, there's always editing I'm doing, having it done,
- 3:48Speaker 1: church stuff, you know, salon stuff, all these things. That
- 3:51Speaker 1: particular day, I had already in my brain, had my
- 3:54Speaker 1: plan mapped out, right, So I was like, Okay, I've
- 3:57Speaker 1: been to the gym.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Let me pray. I wasn't. I was you were in
- 4:01Speaker 2: you in the mid prayer since it was praying.
- 4:03Speaker 1: I was in the middle of prayer, and I knew
- 4:06Speaker 1: at the prayer like boom boom boom. I said, yes,
- 4:08Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this stuff done today because I'm because
- 4:10Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it done today. And then I opened
- 4:12Speaker 1: the door.
- 4:12Speaker 2: I was like, you got to people, what you do?
- 4:16Speaker 2: You open your mouth? She opened her mouth. I did.
- 4:20Speaker 2: I was surprised.
- 4:21Speaker 1: I was like, what the world? Because first off, uh,
- 4:25Speaker 1: you don't live here, right, three thousand miles on the
- 4:27Speaker 1: other side of the on the side of the world, right, So.
- 4:30Speaker 2: I'm like what. So it's like, what what are you doing?
- 4:33Speaker 2: I'm my god, Look did my brain like, whoa, you
- 4:36Speaker 2: had not Let's let's not lie. Let's not lie.
- 4:39Speaker 1: You did not do that. You stay, You stayed, I
- 4:44Speaker 1: said my brain. Oh okay, I didn't hear you say
- 4:46Speaker 1: your brain, I said, my brain. So this is what's
- 4:48Speaker 1: happening in my brain.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, like a good thing. But then it's
- 4:53Speaker 2: like whoa, what a minute, Like what's about to happen today?
- 4:56Speaker 2: Like you got but also he's here, oh blah blah
- 4:59Speaker 2: blah bla. That's just what's happened in real times. I
- 5:01Speaker 2: was just like, oh, so, how did you make that adjustment?
- 5:09Speaker 2: I needed to finish praying.
- 5:12Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about that, because let me tell you
- 5:16Speaker 1: how that blessed me. But I was weak at the
- 5:18Speaker 1: same time, so DESI rae he's knocking on the door.
- 5:23Speaker 1: You can hear the music like the Third Heaven music.
- 5:26Speaker 1: We're gonna call it Third Heaven music. Okay, and the
- 5:29Speaker 1: lady is going in desil Ray opens the door with
- 5:33Speaker 1: her prayer blank, with the names of God covered around
- 5:37Speaker 1: her head. Okay, and she said, she goes hey, and
- 5:42Speaker 1: she looks at him with squinty eyes, turns her head
- 5:45Speaker 1: like a dog and stands there looking confused.
- 5:48Speaker 2: And he goes, hey, babe, how are you. How are
- 5:51Speaker 2: you doing babe? Are you good?
- 5:53Speaker 1: Babe?
- 5:54Speaker 2: I'm here. No, no, The woman of God asks him,
- 5:58Speaker 2: what are you doing here? What are you doing? He's like,
- 6:01Speaker 2: I'm here to surprise you, babe. I brought you.
- 6:03Speaker 1: I wanted to bring you breakfast. I mean my brother
- 6:06Speaker 1: in law was I mean, he was just he was
- 6:08Speaker 1: so sweet. He was He's a patient man. Because she
- 6:11Speaker 1: stared at him for a good moment and act like
- 6:15Speaker 1: she just didn't know what to do, so she walks off.
- 6:20Speaker 2: She walks off after taking the breakfast.
- 6:24Speaker 1: She turns and then realizes, I guess she didn't give
- 6:26Speaker 1: him a hug, and she says, I have to go
- 6:29Speaker 1: back praying now, and then realizes, well, maybe I should
- 6:32Speaker 1: tune in to the fact that he's here. I can
- 6:35Speaker 1: tell that what's going on her brain because she turned
- 6:38Speaker 1: around and goes, I'm gonna go pray now.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Okay. He was like, okay. Like for me, that blessed
- 6:44Speaker 2: that I was templed because I was, like, my friend said,
- 6:47Speaker 2: what you won't do is interrupt her time of intercession
- 6:51Speaker 2: with the Lord. Okay, her time with the Lord.
- 6:54Speaker 1: But it blessed me so good because I remember us
- 6:58Speaker 1: talking about being in a space where we have adjusted
- 7:01Speaker 1: ourselves to a man okay, And what that told me
- 7:06Speaker 1: as your friend, Yeah, you were good and all, and
- 7:11Speaker 1: we're doing this thing, but it's not gonna come between
- 7:15Speaker 1: me and the Lord's time. Yeah, that was the part
- 7:18Speaker 1: that blessed me, because if I'm honest, I don't know
- 7:21Speaker 1: if I'm near yet.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Also, so two things, so I'm like, you just gotta know.
- 7:27Speaker 1: I'm learning a lot about myself and just learning to
- 7:29Speaker 1: give myself grace in this season as there's a lot
- 7:32Speaker 1: of transitions happening, there's me like just being okay with
- 7:36Speaker 1: who I am. And so I really when I say,
- 7:40Speaker 1: like the tasking thing things done has really been a
- 7:42Speaker 1: struggle in a battle for me and it don't look
- 7:46Speaker 1: that way because I do get things done, but internally
- 7:49Speaker 1: I struggle, right so that my brain was literally processing
- 7:52Speaker 1: trying to process what's happening. Right. So not only was
- 7:55Speaker 1: I when I said I'm going to pray now like
- 7:58Speaker 1: I was going to pray, but I was like me
- 8:00Speaker 1: need it to pray like I need it. I needed
- 8:02Speaker 1: to be able to have that moment to be like,
- 8:04Speaker 1: all right, Lord. So I'm very grateful, but also and
- 8:08Speaker 1: there's a struggle mm hmmm. So that was also the
- 8:15Speaker 1: first time I fll out somebody, not somebody into that
- 8:20Speaker 1: somebody like we pray, we pray together, right like we pray,
- 8:23Speaker 1: but somebody that's not necessarily has been in that circle
- 8:26Speaker 1: and seeing me in that space, in that space, So
- 8:29Speaker 1: that was a whole thing as well, because I was like,
- 8:32Speaker 1: because if I'm also honest, why when I where I
- 8:35Speaker 1: currently am, where I currently reside, I stay with a family. Yea,
- 8:39Speaker 1: And so prayer has been stay with a family, you
- 8:43Speaker 1: stay with your family. Well, thank you, Jessica, I stay.
- 8:45Speaker 1: I stay with my family. Okay, blood it is not
- 8:47Speaker 1: thinking the water because sometimes water is blood.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Okay.
- 8:52Speaker 1: So it's been a struggle in that space as well,
- 8:55Speaker 1: because I've been so accustomed to being by myself, being
- 8:58Speaker 1: able to flow and function and and and and move
- 9:01Speaker 1: a god and do all the things in my own
- 9:02Speaker 1: space and not have to worry about bothering anybody. So
- 9:05Speaker 1: what I realized is God has had me placed in
- 9:08Speaker 1: this thing. I've been working. I've been working through a
- 9:10Speaker 1: lot of like internal things in this in this in
- 9:12Speaker 1: this season, and one of those was not wanting to
- 9:15Speaker 1: be a botherer burden to anybody.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Now. I don't remember anybody ever telling me that.
- 9:20Speaker 1: I just I think I just got that from, you know,
- 9:22Speaker 1: how I grew with my mom, Like she just worked
- 9:24Speaker 1: really hard, and I feel like not that I was
- 9:26Speaker 1: a burden, but like she just sacrificed a lot. So
- 9:28Speaker 1: in my mind, I don't ever want to put nobody out,
- 9:30Speaker 1: you know, outside of any you know that thing. And
- 9:33Speaker 1: so my prayer time has been very quiet, M be real,
- 9:37Speaker 1: because I want to bother nobody on, you know, I
- 9:40Speaker 1: want them.
- 9:40Speaker 2: To know I'm up there in the heavens of the Lord.
- 9:43Speaker 1: And just because I didn't know anybody, because I knew,
- 9:47Speaker 1: I knew they weren't there, okay, but I didn't.
- 9:50Speaker 2: I was I thought the knock on the door. Was
- 9:52Speaker 2: Miss Hazel to them to turn the turn the.
- 9:55Speaker 1: Music, that you were in a mindset, I'm too loud,
- 10:00Speaker 1: me not bothered an So I thought I heard the
- 10:03Speaker 1: knock initially right, and I said, oh damn, I bad
- 10:06Speaker 1: because I thought everybody was gone, because I was That's
- 10:09Speaker 1: why I was crunk up Beau. Typically it's very low.
- 10:10Speaker 1: I thought everybody. I thought every right was gone. So
- 10:12Speaker 1: when I initially thought I heard the knock, I was like,
- 10:14Speaker 1: oh dang, maybe my music's too loud. So I turned
- 10:16Speaker 1: the music down, and then the not kept happening. So
- 10:19Speaker 1: typically sometimes like Miss Hazels, if she would bring the
- 10:22Speaker 1: mail down, or if I got a package, or if
- 10:24Speaker 1: there's something that that I may have left upstairs, she'll
- 10:27Speaker 1: bring it down here to me. So when I heard
- 10:29Speaker 1: the knock, I thought it was hurt. So I was
- 10:33Speaker 1: trying to be very mindful. So to have that moment
- 10:36Speaker 1: where I was like trying to process, Okay, I'm excited
- 10:40Speaker 1: he's here, but also and I know like there's a
- 10:42Speaker 1: minion things to get done.
- 10:43Speaker 2: But also and I know I need to pray.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Yeah, that moment you just had about saying that, like
- 10:50Speaker 1: I needed to pray, where did you go in your mind?
- 10:55Speaker 3: Right?
- 10:55Speaker 1: Then if I can't shit, Hey leve I can you
- 11:00Speaker 1: can bring me some paper toiled tissue. One thing I have,
- 11:14Speaker 1: thank you, LEVI leave by Robert paperback. One thing in
- 11:20Speaker 1: this season. You know, if you allow the season to
- 11:22Speaker 1: do what it's supposed to do it or do it right.
- 11:24Speaker 1: So we sometimes complain about being in these hard spaces
- 11:28Speaker 1: that may feel like the wilderness, but if we allow
- 11:33Speaker 1: the season to do what it's supposed to do it
- 11:35Speaker 1: or do it. So, the Lord has been showing me
- 11:37Speaker 1: a lot of me, and so one thing that I
- 11:40Speaker 1: have had to come had to be honest with With
- 11:44Speaker 1: a lot of the people that I trust and I love,
- 11:47Speaker 1: I haven't really even fully given them the opportunity to
- 11:50Speaker 1: really know the fool me. Right, So even in prayer,
- 11:55Speaker 1: one of the things that I'm that I've been learning
- 11:57Speaker 1: through like I don't I hadn't even really fully given
- 12:00Speaker 1: that to God either. So for me really having that
- 12:04Speaker 1: being getting that intimate safe space, I'm learning to be
- 12:08Speaker 1: vulnerable so that I can learn to be vulnerable with
- 12:13Speaker 1: those that He is entrusted for me to be vulnerable with.
- 12:16Speaker 1: So when I said he had to go pray. I
- 12:17Speaker 1: needed to do that so that I could begin to
- 12:20Speaker 1: process all the emotions that were happening at one time. Mmm. Okay,
- 12:26Speaker 1: now now now this is this is shifting my perspective
- 12:30Speaker 1: on because I can really see you know, we recorded.
- 12:33Speaker 2: I asked him to record and send it to me
- 12:35Speaker 2: because I needed and what I what?
- 12:37Speaker 1: I what?
- 12:37Speaker 2: I text you, I'm a I'm an acquainted, such an
- 12:42Speaker 2: I'm accomplished. Yeah, I'm this all I said. I said,
- 12:44Speaker 2: you're such an accomplished I am, I am.
- 12:48Speaker 1: He told me he was like, sister long, I'm coming.
- 12:50Speaker 1: I said, Okay, I got the location, so it's gonna
- 12:53Speaker 1: be easy.
- 12:53Speaker 2: I can tell you what. She is an accomplished and
- 12:57Speaker 2: we we and we accomplished what we need to do.
- 13:01Speaker 1: But I think it's so rewarding to hear your side
- 13:04Speaker 1: of it because we haven't talked about it like this
- 13:06Speaker 1: is I.
- 13:06Speaker 2: First stop talking about it.
- 13:09Speaker 1: And I thank you for your transparency and your vulnerability
- 13:11Speaker 1: in this moment, because I know that it overwhelms you
- 13:17Speaker 1: to be loved like you've been in the past few years,
- 13:21Speaker 1: not just from him and not even just from me. Right,
- 13:25Speaker 1: You've been loved by your pastor and a unique way.
- 13:28Speaker 1: You've been loved by your clients in a unique way,
- 13:32Speaker 1: like the Lord has just been loving on you through people,
- 13:37Speaker 1: and so to hear how you're digesting the love and
- 13:41Speaker 1: like how you want to be vulnerable.
- 13:44Speaker 2: I think that was a perfect even now.
- 13:46Speaker 1: I think God makes no mistakes as if the time
- 13:49Speaker 1: or where he actually showed up to you, because he
- 13:53Speaker 1: had been there and he was just navigating. But when
- 13:56Speaker 1: he got to you, you were in your most vulnerable state.
- 14:00Speaker 1: And now you tell me that this vulnerable state is
- 14:04Speaker 1: not as vulnerable as you thought it was. And as
- 14:07Speaker 1: you're thouting for fulnerability to God, God sends you the
- 14:10Speaker 1: man that you're.
- 14:11Speaker 2: About to marry.
- 14:13Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, And like, so now you like,
- 14:16Speaker 1: I wonder if your mind went like, don't perform, don't perform,
- 14:19Speaker 1: don't stop praying, don't stop getting like they're like, cause
- 14:23Speaker 1: you know, honestly, I pray more, not in my English language. Yeah,
- 14:27Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And that's weird for some people,
- 14:29Speaker 1: it is, honestly. So so when when I'm asked to
- 14:32Speaker 1: pray sometimes in spaces, I'm like, I don't know what
- 14:35Speaker 1: to say because I don't really have a whole lot
- 14:37Speaker 1: of English language that I pray in, right, So that
- 14:40Speaker 1: was my thoughts, like cause, like I said, that was
- 14:42Speaker 1: the first time really allowing him into that space like that.
- 14:46Speaker 1: And so in your mind you're like, well, I don't
- 14:48Speaker 1: know if youre gonna think it's weird or like, you know,
- 14:50Speaker 1: all the all the things that's happening. But I really
- 14:53Speaker 1: just was like, you know what, Lord, it's still just
- 14:55Speaker 1: me and you, Like it's really just me and you.
- 14:57Speaker 1: And so I was still able to pray and had
- 15:00Speaker 1: my time and he and blessed his little heart. I
- 15:02Speaker 1: was listening to the music was on YouTube and so
- 15:05Speaker 1: I don't got YouTube unlimited or nothing like that, you know,
- 15:07Speaker 1: so the ass be coming.
- 15:08Speaker 2: Up in a worship music and so he was just
- 15:11Speaker 2: so graciously just walk over and hit the skip button. Jesus,
- 15:14Speaker 2: go sit back down. What does that? What does that
- 15:16Speaker 2: tell you? What does that do for you?
- 15:19Speaker 1: For me? It was it I think I needed that
- 15:22Speaker 1: because he didn't say nothing. It was just and I
- 15:25Speaker 1: was gonna just let the ad play, right, but he
- 15:26Speaker 1: just walked over and did it. But it was like
- 15:28Speaker 1: it was an acceptance kind of thing, like I respect
- 15:31Speaker 1: of respect kind of things to like, Hey, I respect
- 15:34Speaker 1: this time and this space that she has in but
- 15:35Speaker 1: I also, you know, still want to make it comfortable,
- 15:38Speaker 1: you know.
- 15:39Speaker 2: And so I was like, man, this this wild. No,
- 15:41Speaker 2: I didn't even think about all this, Jessica.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Thanks, So it came up my mind, uh, last last recording,
- 15:50Speaker 1: but I didn't. I didn't think it was probably time
- 15:53Speaker 1: because you hadn't really gotten to digest what really happened.
- 16:01Speaker 2: And I think God's time is so perfect.
- 16:03Speaker 1: And when people are able to hear this, when people
- 16:05Speaker 1: come back to this, I think what they're gonna hear
- 16:08Speaker 1: is or ask themselves.
- 16:11Speaker 2: Singles.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Am I prepared for my spouse while I navigate my
- 16:17Speaker 1: relationship with God?
- 16:19Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying.
- 16:20Speaker 1: That's a real thing, because even as you talk about honestly,
- 16:25Speaker 1: let me be honest with you, I am so shocked
- 16:28Speaker 1: that you you were.
- 16:31Speaker 2: You're saying that you y'all haven't experienced it like.
- 16:37Speaker 1: That level of vulnerability and intimacy with you praying or
- 16:43Speaker 1: him hearing you pray.
- 16:44Speaker 2: Because my girl be praying him and down, you know
- 16:47Speaker 2: what I mean? Like she she she will RePOP, she
- 16:51Speaker 2: will go there. Like you get what I'm saying, Am
- 16:56Speaker 2: if I'm honestly speaking, I am. I have that fear.
- 17:01Speaker 2: I have that fear. I want the Man of God.
- 17:07Speaker 1: That's why I even prefer so at one point, I
- 17:10Speaker 1: prefer the Man of God to meet me in church.
- 17:12Speaker 1: So you already know they because if you if you
- 17:16Speaker 1: go to church and I'm and I'm there, nine times
- 17:19Speaker 1: out of ten, you're you're hearing me speak in tongues,
- 17:22Speaker 1: You're seeing me worship, you might see me pray, you
- 17:26Speaker 1: might you might see me do a lot of things. Right,
- 17:29Speaker 1: that's the that's probably the easiest way to catch me
- 17:33Speaker 1: in that you know what I'm saying. Because when I'm
- 17:35Speaker 1: at home or I'm experiencing something, I too try to
- 17:42Speaker 1: keep it as personal unless i'm with like you kindle
- 17:48Speaker 1: even like with people that's just not it makes them uncomfortable.
- 17:51Speaker 1: I don't want to make anybody uncomfortable.
- 17:53Speaker 2: But I also it's not that I don't I don't want.
- 17:57Speaker 2: I want to. It's not that I think I rent
- 18:00Speaker 2: people away. I just I don't know if.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Me explaining this part to you is just a curiosity
- 18:10Speaker 1: because you're like, Okay, I need to grow in God,
- 18:13Speaker 1: or it's like are you crazy?
- 18:14Speaker 3: Or what?
- 18:15Speaker 2: What is what is what is that? Like, I don't
- 18:18Speaker 2: believe in all that, you know what I'm saying. So
- 18:21Speaker 2: I'm almost like, Lord, he might he.
- 18:26Speaker 1: Might need to meet me at the churchyud Because even
- 18:30Speaker 1: b g TV bg TV gatherings, right, love them, that
- 18:34Speaker 1: my favorite. I love bg TV gatherings, Okay, my favorite.
- 18:40Speaker 1: Going to a b g TV gather bg TV gathering
- 18:42Speaker 1: is not your typical network gathering. It is we're gonna,
- 18:46Speaker 1: we're gonna eat, we're gonna talk, we're gonna we're gonna.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Pray, and we're gonna get the word and we're gonna pray.
- 18:51Speaker 1: And now heaven and language, all of them praying and
- 18:54Speaker 1: the heaven prophecy, different backgrounds, different denominations, different skin colors,
- 19:01Speaker 1: all that.
- 19:01Speaker 2: So let me so, you know, Carrie, invite Carrie to
- 19:06Speaker 2: the last one, right, and he came. So I ain't
- 19:09Speaker 2: gonna lie.
- 19:09Speaker 1: I was nervous because I think he said it on
- 19:12Speaker 1: the podcast, like he's already talked to me about his
- 19:16Speaker 1: relationship with the Lord and we've had you know, private
- 19:18Speaker 1: conversations about what that looks like and all this stuff
- 19:21Speaker 1: like that. So I'm taking account this man ain't seen
- 19:24Speaker 1: me at church, and this man. You know, it's new
- 19:29Speaker 1: to the BGTV world, you know what I'm saying. But
- 19:32Speaker 1: I really felt like I wanted to invite him, right,
- 19:36Speaker 1: And so I'm so glad I did, because sometimes you
- 19:40Speaker 1: just got to overcome your fears.
- 19:42Speaker 2: I was really when I say I was so nervous.
- 19:44Speaker 1: I was so nervous because I was like, I think
- 19:48Speaker 1: in that sense as like, I don't want to hold
- 19:50Speaker 1: back just because you here.
- 19:51Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, you're my friend, you you
- 19:53Speaker 2: know you you I don't know.
- 19:56Speaker 1: What your experience has been with the Lord and speaking
- 19:59Speaker 1: of tongs and this type of prayer and these prop
- 20:02Speaker 1: prophetic words, and you know, I bore Brad brought the
- 20:06Speaker 1: word and brought it with okay he Oh my god.
- 20:10Speaker 1: It was so good, so much of the point where
- 20:12Speaker 1: I carrie what I'm witnessing him and he's like, you know,
- 20:16Speaker 1: writing some notes down and stuff like that, and afterwards
- 20:19Speaker 1: he thanked me for inviting him, and I just I
- 20:21Speaker 1: just didn't know what that experience was like.
- 20:23Speaker 2: So it added to my boldness on like, you.
- 20:27Speaker 1: Know, maybe my person will be able to digest that,
- 20:32Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Maybe my person will be
- 20:34Speaker 1: able to suggest it, but it does. It still makes
- 20:37Speaker 1: me nervous because when I go there, I'm there. Yeah,
- 20:41Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna just go back and say what
- 20:43Speaker 1: I've said before. I wholeheartedly believe the person that's for
- 20:48Speaker 1: you has the grace for all of you, right, same thing, like, yes,
- 20:53Speaker 1: he knows like we we journey and have our own
- 20:57Speaker 1: relationship with the Lord. Right. My experiences have been a
- 21:02Speaker 1: little bit more experiential, a little more some things you
- 21:05Speaker 1: just can't necessarily, you know, describe to somebody who may
- 21:10Speaker 1: not know, right. But I'm grateful even though we've had
- 21:14Speaker 1: different experiences and our journey has been different. I can
- 21:17Speaker 1: have those kind of conversations with him, and even though
- 21:19Speaker 1: he may not have had that experience, he's open to
- 21:22Speaker 1: hearing it and understanding.
- 21:24Speaker 2: Does he have a heavenly language?
- 21:26Speaker 1: No?
- 21:28Speaker 2: Is that another reason why you felt like you know.
- 21:31Speaker 1: I think kind of like you like I think I'm
- 21:34Speaker 1: I've always been very mindful of other people, which is
- 21:38Speaker 1: even why sometimes I struggle with really giving my thoughts
- 21:42Speaker 1: and feelings about certain things, because I'm mindful of the
- 21:46Speaker 1: other person because of how I used to feel growing up, Right,
- 21:51Speaker 1: I never wanted anybody to feel how I felt when
- 21:53Speaker 1: you know, you get the back lash when you get
- 21:55Speaker 1: the lashing of the tongue, right, And so I think
- 21:59Speaker 1: just being and mindful of other people, like other people's
- 22:03Speaker 1: experiences where they may understand and not understand because you know,
- 22:07Speaker 1: speaking in tongue is that is one of those diverse
- 22:10Speaker 1: kind of subjects when it comes to a faith. You
- 22:13Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Some people believe in it, some
- 22:15Speaker 1: people don't. And so my thing is I never want
- 22:18Speaker 1: to what's how they said, not tarnish your witness, But
- 22:23Speaker 1: I never want to cause anybody not to have an issue.
- 22:29Speaker 2: Have an issue.
- 22:29Speaker 1: I said, I'm just very mindful sometimes and so but
- 22:37Speaker 1: and and honestly, we never even really talked about it
- 22:40Speaker 1: after that, like went to prayer and then we're.
- 22:42Speaker 2: Just like, oh, okay, well let's get the day. Let's
- 22:44Speaker 2: get the day going.
- 22:45Speaker 1: You know. So I'm I'm actually very curious to have
- 22:47Speaker 1: this conversation asking what what what his thoughts were, but
- 22:51Speaker 1: it was I felt comfortable now enough to.
- 22:56Speaker 2: Just be me now, Yeah, what.
- 22:58Speaker 1: Comes up for me right now is I was having
- 23:02Speaker 1: a conversation with coach j D one time and he
- 23:05Speaker 1: was explaining what attracted him to coach d and one
- 23:10Speaker 1: of the bag things that attracted him was that she
- 23:13Speaker 1: was consistent, like she really like it was not oh
- 23:16Speaker 1: I love the Lord and then you was she was
- 23:18Speaker 1: playing around them. She was like behind closed doors, like
- 23:21Speaker 1: she just as you know, vibrant she is in front
- 23:27Speaker 1: of everybody when she's going to the Lord, she's just
- 23:30Speaker 1: as vibrant behind closed doors, but not just vibrant, but vulnerable. Right.
- 23:35Speaker 1: And he's you know, spoke on the instance where he
- 23:38Speaker 1: witnessed her praying and stuff like that, and that's like
- 23:40Speaker 1: when his heart knew that she was the you know,
- 23:43Speaker 1: it was her like that, this is not a playful thing.
- 23:48Speaker 2: And so I'm I am I get nervous thinking about, you.
- 23:53Speaker 1: Know, dating and stuff like that for the simple fact
- 23:56Speaker 1: that it's like I don't want to withhold that part
- 24:00Speaker 1: of me. I also, like you said, I'm prayerful that
- 24:06Speaker 1: whomever is my person understands that. But also some people
- 24:11Speaker 1: that don't understand they have seen it, but don't, like
- 24:13Speaker 1: you said.
- 24:14Speaker 2: Agree with it. I don't want to be arguing about
- 24:16Speaker 2: my heaven language.
- 24:16Speaker 1: That's not I'm just not but to do that, okay,
- 24:19Speaker 1: thank you Spirit. So when we talk about heaven language,
- 24:21Speaker 1: tongues or whatever. So in the Book of Acts, I
- 24:27Speaker 1: think it's the Book of Acts where basically the the
- 24:34Speaker 1: is it pentel Costs? Was it pentel Costs? I think
- 24:37Speaker 1: it was pentel Costs where the spirit broke out. Right,
- 24:40Speaker 1: So fifty days after Jesus had resurrected, right, you got
- 24:44Speaker 1: the I think, is it fifty days?
- 24:46Speaker 2: It's fifty okay, thank you come to me. Now, fifty
- 24:49Speaker 2: days after the Lord.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Had risen, right, he had already promised to send a helper,
- 24:56Speaker 1: So the helper show up fifty days which is known
- 24:59Speaker 1: as caust Sunday, the day of Pentecost, meaning that a
- 25:05Speaker 1: multitude of people gathered and they experienced Holy Spirit for
- 25:10Speaker 1: the first time, to the point where they were speaking
- 25:12Speaker 1: different languages, but all of them understood each other. Right,
- 25:17Speaker 1: So they were speaking in their heaven what is known
- 25:20Speaker 1: as a heavenly language that is received through Holy Spirit.
- 25:25Speaker 1: So the only way you understand, or not even just understand,
- 25:28Speaker 1: but obtain the language is through Holy Spirit because it's
- 25:33Speaker 1: the dialogue. It's Holy Spirit speaking through you, right, But
- 25:37Speaker 1: you have to be open to Holy Spirit in order
- 25:40Speaker 1: to get the heavenly language. Now, the misconception of this
- 25:45Speaker 1: is that Holy Spirit picks and choose who he wants
- 25:49Speaker 1: to give this language to. That's what I believe for
- 25:52Speaker 1: a long time that because they say speaking of tongues
- 25:57Speaker 1: is a gift, which is true, but it's not a
- 26:00Speaker 1: gift that he picks and choose. You have to receive
- 26:03Speaker 1: the gift that's already made available. So the heavenly language
- 26:07Speaker 1: is made available to us all if we accept Holy Spirit.
- 26:12Speaker 1: So that's just one of the evidence, one of them
- 26:14Speaker 1: is not the only evidence of having Holy Spirit, but
- 26:18Speaker 1: it's one of the evidence of having Holy Spirit within you.
- 26:25Speaker 2: And so there is a.
- 26:28Speaker 1: There is the money tongue, and that's not what I'm
- 26:30Speaker 1: talking about. And you, when you have discernment and you
- 26:33Speaker 1: have Holy Spirit, you'll be able to pick that up.
- 26:35Speaker 1: But when it says the Spirit will intercede for you,
- 26:40Speaker 1: that's heavenly language. When when when when you talk about
- 26:44Speaker 1: the spirit moaning and groaning, it's not just ah, it's
- 26:48Speaker 1: heavenly language. So when if you do not have your
- 26:52Speaker 1: heavenly language, I don't even know we was gonna go here.
- 26:54Speaker 1: But if you do not have your heavenly language, one
- 26:57Speaker 1: thing I would encourage you to do for one is
- 26:59Speaker 1: to ask for it.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Ask for it, and is ask and it shall be given.
- 27:05Speaker 1: Right. And so if you're seeking it, the way to
- 27:08Speaker 1: not only just see it, ask for it. But I
- 27:10Speaker 1: think you ask, Okay, what am I missing in this relationship?
- 27:14Speaker 1: Do I even have a relationship with Holy Spirit? What
- 27:16Speaker 1: does what relationship with Holy.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Spirit look like? Are you hearing him? Are you leaning
- 27:21Speaker 2: into the discernment?
- 27:22Speaker 1: Like?
- 27:22Speaker 2: Are something that's intimidating to you?
- 27:25Speaker 1: Right?
- 27:25Speaker 2: You have to deal with those things because those things.
- 27:27Speaker 1: Can be barriers against you exposing yourself to this new language.
- 27:32Speaker 2: Right, this whole everything is it's through faith. Yes, that's good.
- 27:37Speaker 2: It's through faith.
- 27:38Speaker 1: So it's it's the faith is me believing and knowing
- 27:42Speaker 1: that this thing I can receive it, and that I
- 27:44Speaker 1: can receive.
- 27:45Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah. And also.
- 27:49Speaker 1: There are different types of tongues that we're talking about
- 27:53Speaker 1: our prayer language that nobody understands but the Lord. Right,
- 27:56Speaker 1: So there's tongues of interpretation meaning so in the Bible,
- 28:02Speaker 1: so this is this is one of the things that
- 28:04Speaker 1: I can't listen, don't company, don't know where it's at
- 28:08Speaker 1: right somewhere in Paul was talking about.
- 28:13Speaker 2: Tongues.
- 28:14Speaker 1: When somebody says, you're in a corporate body, like you're
- 28:16Speaker 1: in church, you're in a gathering of the believers, and
- 28:20Speaker 1: somebody begins to speak in tongues, right, they're speaking out
- 28:24Speaker 1: loud in tongues. Well, if nobody has understanding of that,
- 28:28Speaker 1: that means the body is not being edified by that, right.
- 28:30Speaker 1: So tongues is for the edification of the believer, means
- 28:33Speaker 1: you're built like when you It's also the only spiritual
- 28:37Speaker 1: gift given by the Holy Spirit that we have that
- 28:39Speaker 1: we have the control we can control to use and
- 28:42Speaker 1: or not. Right, So when you are exercising your gift
- 28:46Speaker 1: of tongues in faith, that means it's edifying your faith
- 28:49Speaker 1: and it's building you up as a believer.
- 28:51Speaker 2: Right.
- 28:52Speaker 1: So what Paul was talking about is when you're in
- 28:55Speaker 1: a body of believers and somebody stands up and begins
- 28:58Speaker 1: to speak in tongues, nobody but that person is being edified.
- 29:01Speaker 2: Mm So you need an interpreter.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So that's tones of interpretation like and that's
- 29:07Speaker 1: Holy Spirit led too. Like I I literally experienced this too,
- 29:11Speaker 1: uh couple a few weeks ago when I went to
- 29:13Speaker 1: on site for for our mentorship program. Right. The spirit
- 29:17Speaker 1: was like the Holy Spirit was there for real. So
- 29:19Speaker 1: this lady, okay, one of the one of the uh
- 29:22Speaker 1: the students, that she begins to speak in tongues right, so,
- 29:27Speaker 1: and it was different from cause we've praying our language
- 29:30Speaker 1: all the time. That wa it was and I'm just noticing.
- 29:32Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is the first this is
- 29:32Speaker 1: schooling nord. So she begins to you can tell like
- 29:36Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit is literally like speaking through her.
- 29:38Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what she was saying.
- 29:40Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So General t says, somebody in here has
- 29:43Speaker 1: the interpretation. So we waited, and sure enough, like water flowing,
- 29:49Speaker 1: one of the ladies come from the back and begins
- 29:50Speaker 1: to give the interpretation of the Lord.
- 29:53Speaker 2: I remember my experience.
- 29:54Speaker 1: I went to Mary the church Marianne was going to
- 29:57Speaker 1: at the time, and the big ship like it was,
- 30:01Speaker 1: the spirit was high. And then all of a sudden,
- 30:04Speaker 1: the way the way he like you said, it's different.
- 30:09Speaker 1: It's not just a personal song. It was a dement
- 30:12Speaker 1: like I asked, it was and you could just hear
- 30:18Speaker 1: the difference, and it shook like it arrested me. I
- 30:21Speaker 1: was like, oh, I said, who has in my mind,
- 30:24Speaker 1: I said, who has the interpretation? Never experienced it in
- 30:26Speaker 1: my life. And this lady named Jessica stands up and
- 30:31Speaker 1: she leans like you could tell she was not, like
- 30:34Speaker 1: she was laid by all the spirit, and she starts
- 30:37Speaker 1: regurgitating this long tongue.
- 30:41Speaker 2: That bishop had given. So these things are real.
- 30:44Speaker 1: And I'm so glad you brought that scripture up because
- 30:47Speaker 1: I thought for a long time that my personal tongue
- 30:51Speaker 1: was disrespectful in public if I didn't have interpretation. But
- 30:56Speaker 1: the thing is, somebody brought to my attention. I can't
- 30:59Speaker 1: remember who was. But when you're praying and you're praying
- 31:03Speaker 1: to yourself, who is to tell you that Holy Spirit
- 31:05Speaker 1: doesn't give you the interpretation of it? Like, who's to
- 31:09Speaker 1: tell you that it's not just an inter session for you,
- 31:13Speaker 1: but he's helping you interpret what he's trying to tell
- 31:16Speaker 1: to say to you or about a thing?
- 31:18Speaker 2: Right, And so I think that it's very important.
- 31:21Speaker 1: Like you say, faith relationship also, just open your mouth,
- 31:26Speaker 1: just lose yourself in so Bischavan Mood, I say his
- 31:30Speaker 1: name a lot, you guys, I say his name a lot,
- 31:32Speaker 1: And I perfectly would have him on the podcast someday someday,
- 31:36Speaker 1: Absolutely someday, I'm crossing our fingers on that. But I
- 31:41Speaker 1: remember I had just I had visited the church and
- 31:44Speaker 1: he was talking about the gifts of the Holy Spirit, right,
- 31:48Speaker 1: and I came on a Sunday, my first Sunday that
- 31:53Speaker 1: I came, or second, it was one of two.
- 31:56Speaker 2: He was on the evidence of tone, like the whole
- 31:59Speaker 2: heavenly language.
- 32:00Speaker 1: And I remember, I remember prior to this that I
- 32:06Speaker 1: started speaking in tongues at this Christian nightclub and it
- 32:10Speaker 1: just came out, and I didn't know.
- 32:12Speaker 2: I didn't know what was going on.
- 32:14Speaker 1: So I freaked myself out and I blocked my ability
- 32:17Speaker 1: to speak in tongue because I didn't know what.
- 32:20Speaker 2: I didn't know what was going on.
- 32:22Speaker 1: I knew and whether I knew it was tongue, and
- 32:24Speaker 1: I was like, but nobody was here to interpret that,
- 32:27Speaker 1: and the Lord didn't give me that, Like I in
- 32:28Speaker 1: my mind, I told myself that, So I shut myself
- 32:30Speaker 1: off for two years for two years. So I go,
- 32:35Speaker 1: so I go to the church and he's talking about this,
- 32:39Speaker 1: and I just knew it wasn't a coincidence. I knew
- 32:42Speaker 1: it wasn't a coincidence. So at the end after he
- 32:44Speaker 1: teaches about it, he invites people up. He said, if
- 32:47Speaker 1: you want the evidence of speaking in tones right, come
- 32:52Speaker 1: up to the altar, and I'm gonna pray with you.
- 32:55Speaker 1: And he led us through and the first thing he
- 32:57Speaker 1: did was tell us, just start saying Hallelujah, thank you Jesus.
- 33:00Speaker 1: If you can just start saying Hallelujah, thank you Jesus,
- 33:03Speaker 1: you have to lose yourself in God, like he said,
- 33:06Speaker 1: like this is a requirement. You can't be in your
- 33:08Speaker 1: mind thinking about what you're saying.
- 33:11Speaker 2: That's why I was able.
- 33:12Speaker 1: I remember the moment when I first released my tongue.
- 33:14Speaker 1: I was so I was so high in worship. I
- 33:16Speaker 1: was so high in worship that something new encountered me
- 33:21Speaker 1: and I didn't I didn't know what to do with it, right,
- 33:24Speaker 1: And so now I'm preparing myself and I went up there.
- 33:27Speaker 2: Scared, I really did.
- 33:28Speaker 1: I went up there fearful, but I went up there
- 33:31Speaker 1: and I gave my hallelujah and thank you Jesus, and hallelujah,
- 33:34Speaker 1: thank you Jesus.
- 33:35Speaker 2: And finally.
- 33:37Speaker 1: I lost myself in that to where it starts to
- 33:41Speaker 1: it really started rolling out.
- 33:44Speaker 2: And I'll never forget this.
- 33:47Speaker 1: I opened my eyes, and I'm so glad this happened
- 33:50Speaker 1: because I would have stopped. I opened my eyes and
- 33:54Speaker 1: Bishop Moody slapped his hands and pointed right at me
- 33:58Speaker 1: like a best it. Because if that didn't happen, I
- 34:02Speaker 1: probably would have shut up again. But I needed somebody
- 34:05Speaker 1: to encourage me. Like that is unlocked, so you really
- 34:11Speaker 1: can block yourself. That's why I says, ask for it,
- 34:14Speaker 1: go to Holy Spirit. When you're interested, He'll just give
- 34:17Speaker 1: it to you. Like you know what I'm saying. If
- 34:18Speaker 1: you're high, yeah, you're gonna experience some things. But sometimes
- 34:21Speaker 1: I didn't have a language for it. I didn't have
- 34:22Speaker 1: the structure for it. I wasn't getting talked. I don't
- 34:26Speaker 1: know if my daddy has an event language. I'm pretty
- 34:28Speaker 1: sure he doesn't, because I haven't heard it, you know
- 34:30Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, however, I could it could be different.
- 34:34Speaker 1: May and my bonus Mama talk about all the time
- 34:36Speaker 1: we talked. She grew up on grew up in spaces
- 34:39Speaker 1: like that. So when I started having questions about certain things,
- 34:42Speaker 1: I don't ask my dad. I asked her because I'm
- 34:44Speaker 1: experiencing something different that even my daddy was teaching me before.
- 34:49Speaker 1: And just because it's different, I don't know who this
- 34:51Speaker 1: religious spirit I'm talking to, But just because it's different
- 34:55Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's wrong.
- 34:57Speaker 2: It's Bible. I don't know, I don't know who we
- 34:58Speaker 2: need to hear that, but it's not wrong. It's Bible.
- 35:02Speaker 1: And I think that because your interpretation of it is
- 35:08Speaker 1: faded and not structurally sound, you discredit one of the
- 35:18Speaker 1: most amazing tools that God left us. I was just
- 35:22Speaker 1: thinking and speaking in tongues. I was just thinking, like,
- 35:24Speaker 1: how the only way at this point in time I'm
- 35:29Speaker 1: able to walk this journey it is with the Holy Spirit.
- 35:33Speaker 1: And the reason why praying in your heavenly languages, praying
- 35:38Speaker 1: and tongues is so important is because we're human, right,
- 35:42Speaker 1: we also view life through our own lenses and our.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Own filters of life experiences. Right.
- 35:48Speaker 1: So you can tell me, hey, you know, pray for
- 35:52Speaker 1: my healing, right, and maybe because I may have faith
- 35:56Speaker 1: for you, right, But also and I've had my own experience,
- 36:00Speaker 1: have had my own experience of healing or whatever that
- 36:04Speaker 1: looks like. So I'm going to pray with my understanding. Yeah,
- 36:07Speaker 1: I'm going to pray even though I may truly believe,
- 36:12Speaker 1: But sometimes we pray or our thoughts are predicated.
- 36:16Speaker 2: On our own experience.
- 36:17Speaker 1: Yeah, so when we literally allow ourselves to pray, have
- 36:24Speaker 1: faith to pray with Holy Spirit, it's that Holy Spirit
- 36:28Speaker 1: knows what we don't know.
- 36:30Speaker 2: Right.
- 36:31Speaker 1: So when I'm praying in my heavenly like, I don't
- 36:33Speaker 1: know nothing, like I just I just had to. I
- 36:36Speaker 1: just told y'all, I've been struggle. I've had a struggle
- 36:38Speaker 1: with my own voice. Right, So I don't trust me,
- 36:42Speaker 1: but I do trust the Lord. Yeah, I do trust
- 36:44Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit. I trust that the Holy Spirit knows you.
- 36:47Speaker 1: Like I had, I had message one of my one
- 36:49Speaker 1: of my volunteers. I mentioned them all pretty much the
- 36:52Speaker 1: same thing. The their sponsor is different depending on the person, right.
- 36:55Speaker 1: So one of them messaged me back and she said
- 36:58Speaker 1: some things. She said, There's a lot more that I'm
- 37:00Speaker 1: I'm leaving out, but this is what I can remember.
- 37:03Speaker 2: I said, you know what God knows all. So what
- 37:05Speaker 2: I do.
- 37:06Speaker 1: What I'm going to do is I'm going to take
- 37:07Speaker 1: her request. I'm gonna take the things that she shared
- 37:10Speaker 1: with me. I'm gonna pray them out. But I'm also
- 37:12Speaker 1: gonna trust that the Lord knows who she is. And
- 37:14Speaker 1: where she at and where she needs in my heavenly language,
- 37:17Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the lady needs.
- 37:19Speaker 1: The Lord does, And so that has been one of
- 37:22Speaker 1: the beauty, one of the most beautiful things about this
- 37:27Speaker 1: journey is it's really a trust journey. Like I really trust,
- 37:30Speaker 1: I really trust Holy Spirit with my life, and I
- 37:34Speaker 1: trust him to know enough to give me what I
- 37:37Speaker 1: need for somebody else when I can't. When I don't know,
- 37:41Speaker 1: I know he knows. And so as I'm praying in
- 37:44Speaker 1: my holy in my heavenly language, I may not even
- 37:46Speaker 1: go in there with an agenda. I just may start
- 37:48Speaker 1: praying and he begins to drop a name down, he
- 37:52Speaker 1: begins maybe to show me a situation to pray for,
- 37:56Speaker 1: you know, he may begin to either show something about me.
- 38:00Speaker 1: But what I love is I'm able to walk this
- 38:03Speaker 1: thing out because I've been empowered and I've been endowed by.
- 38:08Speaker 2: The Spirit of the Living God. That was the promise.
- 38:11Speaker 2: The promise was I'm going away so that I can
- 38:13Speaker 2: give you the helper, yes, and so not just give you.
- 38:16Speaker 2: I'm sending him for you.
- 38:18Speaker 1: Yes. It's a difference between I'm going to provide, like
- 38:22Speaker 1: provide you No, I'm sending this thing specifically for you,
- 38:26Speaker 1: like I am sending it's like I think for me.
- 38:31Speaker 1: We just when we don't, when we don't lean into
- 38:34Speaker 1: the gifts of Holy Spirit. And this might need to
- 38:38Speaker 1: be a longer thing, you know what I'm saying. When
- 38:40Speaker 1: we don't, when we don't lean into the gifts of
- 38:43Speaker 1: Holy Spirit, we don't em boy the body the fullness
- 38:47Speaker 1: of God.
- 38:49Speaker 2: And because the.
- 38:51Speaker 1: Lord is three and one right, people have different I'm
- 38:53Speaker 1: not here to argue about the trinity or what you
- 38:55Speaker 1: think about it. Okay, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. You say
- 39:04Speaker 1: God because you appreciate the creation. You say Son because
- 39:09Speaker 1: you appreciate the sacrifice. Holy Spirit means that you're not
- 39:15Speaker 1: you have not accepted the help because he said I'm
- 39:19Speaker 1: sending the helper. So a lot of us didn't have
- 39:22Speaker 1: a struggle with receiving help. I imagine what your relationship
- 39:28Speaker 1: is like with Holy Spirit. Listen, Jessica, we have don't
- 39:33Speaker 1: have a problem with accepting salvation. Right. We can believe,
- 39:37Speaker 1: like I believe that Jesus rose and he died and
- 39:40Speaker 1: then he rose, So I'm saved, right.
- 39:43Speaker 2: And that's all I need. That's all I need, or
- 39:45Speaker 2: even even you may be in a space, but that's
- 39:47Speaker 2: all that they teach.
- 39:48Speaker 1: But but we wonder why we struggle with the things
- 39:52Speaker 1: that we struggle with, Like we were born, we were
- 39:53Speaker 1: born into a world of sin. Yeah, that's why the
- 39:56Speaker 1: Holy Spirit is so important, because we have to now
- 39:59Speaker 1: begin to walk out this thing called sanctification, and we
- 40:02Speaker 1: cannot do that in our own flesh and our own strength.
- 40:05Speaker 2: We need the power of the Holy Spirit to walk
- 40:09Speaker 2: this thing out. So I'm kind of like you. I
- 40:11Speaker 2: don't know.
- 40:12Speaker 1: You know, some people believe what they believe, but I'm
- 40:15Speaker 1: I would not be here, trust me, right here doing
- 40:18Speaker 1: this thing that I know, in this space that I
- 40:20Speaker 1: know the Lord has called me to if I didn't
- 40:22Speaker 1: have Holy Spirit. Yeah, I think this this has been
- 40:24Speaker 1: a great conversations and I hope it's opened you guys
- 40:27Speaker 1: up to if you if you haven't experienced Holy Spirit
- 40:32Speaker 1: on different levels, I think it gives you opportunity to
- 40:36Speaker 1: lean into it and like, hopefully you have a community.
- 40:40Speaker 2: Thank you, Holy Spirit.
- 40:41Speaker 1: I hear you.
- 40:42Speaker 2: You have a community to where you can evolve.
- 40:48Speaker 1: There's the young the young lady that's coming to mind
- 40:52Speaker 1: and the Lord. I'm just following the Lord. Ben Tucker
- 40:57Speaker 1: is coming to mind. That's her name, right, is it
- 40:59Speaker 1: been Tucker? Yes, Beth Tucker, not Being And I called
- 41:05Speaker 1: her the lady I did. I don't know who being
- 41:08Speaker 1: is being shout out to you, but that's not what
- 41:10Speaker 1: I've talked about. Her face came about Beth Tucker. She
- 41:13Speaker 1: talks about delivers and stuff, but within that, she talks
- 41:16Speaker 1: about Holy Spirit a lot. And I think that her
- 41:20Speaker 1: teachings are very digestible. If you're open to it, you
- 41:25Speaker 1: have to be open to it. I don't think she's
- 41:27Speaker 1: I don't think she's abrasive. I think she's very peaceful
- 41:30Speaker 1: in her teaching. But also she means what she say
- 41:34Speaker 1: says and so yeah.
- 41:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that.
- 41:37Speaker 1: And it's some other people that I've heard talk about
- 41:40Speaker 1: Holy Spirit, but I just heard the Holy Spirit test say,
- 41:42Speaker 1: bring up Beth Turker.
- 41:44Speaker 2: Did did you hear something too? So I and I think.
- 41:49Speaker 2: So there's a book and it's free. You just had
- 41:52Speaker 2: to find it.
- 41:53Speaker 1: I mean, I think I can find a Lincoln Lincoln
- 41:55Speaker 1: into it, but it's it's a book about walking in
- 41:58Speaker 1: the power of Holy Spirit.
- 42:01Speaker 2: By his last name is Roberson. I'm got to find it.
- 42:06Speaker 1: Uh. But in the in in that book, Uh, he
- 42:10Speaker 1: just begins to just walk out talk talk through his
- 42:12Speaker 1: life and how you know, he would pray, you know,
- 42:17Speaker 1: pray and you know, but it wasn't until he uh
- 42:21Speaker 1: really got filled with the Holy filled with Holy Spirit
- 42:24Speaker 1: that his that he could tell that his walk began
- 42:26Speaker 1: to shift and change. Right. So it's some really practical
- 42:29Speaker 1: pieces in there about walking with Holy Spirit, but also
- 42:34Speaker 1: the power of praying and tongue being ma, I'm gonna
- 42:39Speaker 1: find it. I'm a link, I'm a linking in the
- 42:41Speaker 1: in the situation. But it's a it's it's actually a
- 42:43Speaker 1: free free read. And I and I and I think
- 42:45Speaker 1: I found the audible book on YouTube to Yeah. So
- 42:52Speaker 1: I think that you should pray for people that are
- 42:56Speaker 1: wanting to experience Holy Spirit and then so pray for
- 43:01Speaker 1: people that would like to experience Holy Spirit in another
- 43:05Speaker 1: on another level.
- 43:07Speaker 2: And that's how we'll end this.
- 43:09Speaker 1: Okay, okay, And this is a very interesting conversation, Like
- 43:15Speaker 1: we just kind of just jumped out there and did
- 43:18Speaker 1: the thing. But I really have enjoyed and appreciated this
- 43:23Speaker 1: this conversation because, like I said, I know there are
- 43:28Speaker 1: some things that I would have had the answers to
- 43:31Speaker 1: literally I lose. I know he'd be I know, I
- 43:33Speaker 1: know Holy Spirit was sicking me. It's either a key,
- 43:36Speaker 1: a key or a phone or something. I lose literally
- 43:38Speaker 1: every day. And I can literally just say, Holy Spirit,
- 43:41Speaker 1: where is it, and like clockwork, I'll see it, or
- 43:46Speaker 1: I'll just.
- 43:47Speaker 2: Walk right to it. You know what I'm saying. I know,
- 43:49Speaker 2: I know that's not me. You know what I'm saying.
- 43:50Speaker 2: Even my creativity people think they'd be like, oh, you're
- 43:54Speaker 2: so loud, or I ain't that smart. I am not
- 43:58Speaker 2: that smart.
- 43:59Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I appreciate the gift of Holy Spirit.
- 44:02Speaker 1: And also that's kind of the same thing that we
- 44:06Speaker 1: just want to we're hoping that you guys are open
- 44:10Speaker 1: to receiving today. All right, So I'm gonna pray child.
- 44:14Speaker 1: Oh thank you Jesus, Oh Lord. All right, Father, we
- 44:18Speaker 1: just thank you for this time. We thank you for this,
- 44:22Speaker 1: for this conversation. I know that the topic of praying
- 44:27Speaker 1: in tongues or speaking in tongues, speaking in heavily language
- 44:30Speaker 1: can be sometimes a divided conversation. Lord, but we know
- 44:36Speaker 1: that you created all things, and all things that you
- 44:40Speaker 1: have created are good, and so we just thank you
- 44:43Speaker 1: right now for the person who may be curious, who
- 44:45Speaker 1: may have heard about praying and tongues, heard about the
- 44:50Speaker 1: heavenly language, but maybe they're just in their head about it,
- 44:54Speaker 1: or maybe they're just still have answers, Lord, And so
- 44:57Speaker 1: what I know is that Holy Spirit is still there
- 45:00Speaker 1: with them as well. And so we just ask that
- 45:03Speaker 1: as you are listening to us right now, that you
- 45:05Speaker 1: just open your minds, just open your mind to receive,
- 45:08Speaker 1: open your heart to receive, because yes, it is a gift,
- 45:11Speaker 1: but it's also a gift that we have to be
- 45:13Speaker 1: open to receive. And so we just thank you Jesus
- 45:16Speaker 1: right now for we thank you Lord right now for
- 45:22Speaker 1: just sending your spirit to comfort. We thank you right
- 45:25Speaker 1: now for sending your spirit to God. And those who
- 45:27Speaker 1: may you know they be like, hey, I know, Holy Spirit, yes,
- 45:30Speaker 1: but but there's always deeper, right, There's always deeper. There's
- 45:34Speaker 1: always deeper, and there's always deeper. So we just thank
- 45:36Speaker 1: you Lord for journeying with us and journeying with them
- 45:39Speaker 1: into deeper depths, deeper depths of surrender, Lord, deeper depths
- 45:43Speaker 1: of revelation, Lord, deeper depths of your spirit. And so
- 45:47Speaker 1: again I just want to thank my good sister jes
- 45:49Speaker 1: I wanna lift her up. I want to cover her
- 45:51Speaker 1: just for being obedient. One thing I know, I know
- 45:54Speaker 1: that that she that she has a relationship with you,
- 45:56Speaker 1: and I can trust that and I can trust to
- 45:58Speaker 1: God in her well.
- 46:00Speaker 2: As she just continues to say, yes, Lord, we just
- 46:02Speaker 2: thank you for the ears that will hear the words. Lord.
- 46:05Speaker 1: We thank you for not only that they will hear it,
- 46:07Speaker 1: but that it would be fall on good soil, good soil,
- 46:09Speaker 1: for the seeds to grow, good soil, for them to
- 46:12Speaker 1: take it whatever it is that they need for their
- 46:15Speaker 1: journey's Lord, and be obedient into their words. So we
- 46:17Speaker 1: thank you Lord, We love you, We bless you in
- 46:20Speaker 1: Jesus' name.
- 46:20Speaker 2: We pray Amen Amen am amen. So until next week.
- 46:26Speaker 2: Until next time, remember life could be much more simple
- 46:31Speaker 2: if you just asked thank you for tuning in to
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- 46:55Speaker 1: yourself and always thank thank God.
- 46:59Speaker 2: For one day.
- 47:01Speaker 3: Hey, hey, I know we could be another way. Hey,
- 47:08Speaker 3: pray thank God for another day. Hey, Hey, I'm just
- 47:14Speaker 3: thankful another day. Hey hey another day, Oh, another day wise,
- 47:22Speaker 3: another day to get it right, another day to rise up,
- 47:25Speaker 3: another day living, another day. We loved ones. I always
- 47:28Speaker 3: remember hold it down for a ball one, yeh