Latest / Elon Musk Thinking / Are Aliens Real? Latest Interview of Elon Musk!
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- 0:00My religion, for lack of a better word, is that is one of
- 0:03curiosity, where we want to expand the scope of scale of consciousness on Earth
- 0:10and beyond Earth and ultimately to other star systems. And in order to do
- 0:15that, we need to increase the number of conscious beings, and we need
- 0:19to advance technology such that we can have our self sustaining sitting on Mars,
- 0:25ultimately populate the whole Solar System, and then go beyond our Solar system to
- 0:30other star systems. And therefore we need more humans. So I mean,
- 0:38that's an amazingly different goal than what we've had for the past. Yeah.
- 0:42I propose this as a new philosophy. Yeah, well not new, but
- 0:46maybe niche, but niche but hopefully getting a bit bigger. So you know,
- 0:53with that philosophy in mind. But the purpose of that philosophy is that
- 0:56is that the more we expand the scope a scale of consciousness, the more
- 1:00we are able to understand the reality that we live in the nature of the
- 1:04universe, and and to uh to answer the questions that we have, and
- 1:11perhaps more importantly, to know what questions we are not asking, as Douglas
- 1:15Adams would say, and Hitchhack's got to the galaxy that the answer is the
- 1:19easy part. The question is the hard part. You know, answers forty
- 1:23two. What's the question? So, so, I think that's a pretty
- 1:27optimistic. Positive philosophy also has a lot of room for other beliefs if you
- 1:34want to add them to. You know. But but the fundamental tents of
- 1:38my belief structure are expand the escape, expand the scale of consciousness. I
- 1:45mean, more more people, I guess, more computers to to the agree
- 1:49that they are conscious. Uh, and we want to pass through the uh
- 1:57one of the great filters that to you know, you believe the Pomy paradox
- 2:01and the great filter. Now, okay, So Enrico Fermi, great amazing
- 2:07physicist, posed a very simple question. He said, we're the aliens because
- 2:15we've seen no sign of them. Now, a lot of people think they've
- 2:17seen signs of aliens. I've seen no evidence whatsoever of aliens. So it's
- 2:23a troubling question. Why why not? So one of the answers, perhaps
- 2:28the most likely answer, is that we're it that the tiny that that the
- 2:34tiny candle of consciousness that constitutes humanity. It is all that there is in
- 2:40this vast darkness, and I think we should we should assume that that is
- 2:46the case until we actually firm evidence to the contrary. And we and moreover,
- 2:53human consciousness only arose after four and a half billion years. It took
- 2:58a long time, and if it had taken even ten percent longer, it
- 3:01probably would not have evolved because the Sun is expanding. As a sun expands,
- 3:07it'll start heating Earth, and Earth will the oceans will evaporate, will
- 3:13become more like venus inhospitable to life. So I think we may have made
- 3:17we may have achieved consciousness or consciousness that's capable of developing technology just in time.
- 3:29I find it remarkable that we are at this point in history where we're
- 3:34able for the first time to go beyond Earth, to send people. We
- 3:39send people to the Moon in the early seventies, but not essence, not
- 3:43gone back. But with the Starship rocket that SpaceX is developing, but two
- 3:49test flights will have many more this year. That that vehicle is designed to
- 3:54make life multiplanetary. It's the first vehicle that are just capable of doing that.
- 4:00A permanent base on the Moon and a city on Mars. So I
- 4:04think we want to get that done as soon as possible. The window for
- 4:11the window of opportunity to make life multiplanetary and secure the future of consciousness may
- 4:16be open for a long time, or it may be open for a short
- 4:18time. I think it would be wise to not assume that it'll be opened
- 4:24for a long time. And when we act now, to act now to
- 4:29make life multiplanetary. One thing that's fascinating what you're saying is that it assumes
- 4:32an innate level of belief and and love for human beings. And so I
- 4:38love humanity. So why, I mean, it's it's it's a weird question,
- 4:42but I mean, really kind of why. I mean, we're not
- 4:44that great. I mean we have great we can be angels, we can
- 4:48be devils, obviously, we have the capacity for all of the things in
- 4:51between. What do you think makes, aside from just the qualities that theoretically
- 4:57could be duplicated by AI in the very near future, that makes human beings
- 5:00unique enough. I'll tell you something so that I think that maybe resonates.
- 5:04It's like, I think, actually everyone loves humanity. Now they may not
- 5:10love everyone in humanity, but you say, how many people want to be
- 5:15in solatary confinement. Okay, how many people when I live alone in the
- 5:20forest by themselves, Almost no human beings want to do that. That is
- 5:26actually, in reality, all humans love humanity and want to be part of
- 5:30humanity almost, you know, with the rare exception of someone who's growth spere
- 5:36psychological issues. So that you know, that's why solatry confinement is considered a
- 5:43terrible punishment in prison, because even though other prisoners are probably not the well
- 5:48they're not the finest examples of humans, you still want to hang out with
- 5:51them, you know. So I think it's a natural thing. You know,
- 5:58it's long. As long as it's long, kids aren't towrd to hate
- 6:01other people. I think the natural inclination is to your love umanity. Are
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- 7:10back to some of the business conversation that I want to go back to the
- 7:13SpaceX of it when when it comes to business, what do you see as
- 7:16sort of the biggest obstacles to not only the success of your companies, but
- 7:20to success generally because there seems to be this idea abroad that people can't duplicate
- 7:27the path that basically it used to be that people like you could succeed,
- 7:30but now it's totally finished and now you can't get ahead. Is Erica.
- 7:34Nothing's changed in that regard as far as nowhere there are you know, your
- 7:39companies being formed all the time in the US, Well, what do you
- 7:42see as the obstacles to companies being successful increasingly in the West? If there
- 7:47is, if there are obstacles to that, well, I think excess regulation.
- 7:55You know, taxes do ratch op every year, making a little difficult,
- 7:58a little harder every year as taxes rat job. But the regulatory creep
- 8:03is I think a massive danger. So laws of regulations are immortal, but
- 8:09the regulators and the lawmakers make new rules of regulations and laws and regulations every
- 8:16year, and so you have this, so every year you've got this sort
- 8:18of another layer of laws regulations. It'suss getting to the point where everything's legal.
- 8:26You can't get anything done. And you say, well, how do
- 8:31they deal with in the past, Well, the way they don't within the
- 8:33past, would there'd be a war and the war would wash away that the
- 8:37old rules, laws and regulations. That's that's would literally would take a war
- 8:41to change things, you know, like Napoleon, you know, establishing the
- 8:48Napoleonic Code from that overalled the old law systems of the sort of lords and
- 8:56the lords and peasants. And if you know, for all that the bad
- 9:01that Napoleon did, I think it did more good actually, So the evidence
- 9:07isn't in that. I think maybe a third or a half of all countries
- 9:09on Earth still run on the Napoleon Code. So and I would would prefer
- 9:16to have some clean up process for laws and regulations that doesn't require war.
- 9:22That'd be nice, I think. And I think that's something we need to
- 9:26institute, like basically a garbage collection for laws and regulations