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Black Women Are Born Superheroes!!!! (Feat. Jay Hero) · For All Nerds Show

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Speaker 1: Hey, fan fam.
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Speaker 2: On this episode, we welcome Jay Hero, an award winning illustrator,
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Speaker 2: graphic designer, and writer whose project Star Wielder is up
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Speaker 2: now on Kickstarter. It's a fifty page debut comic featuring
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Speaker 2: a black girl with firepowers, and she also teaches you
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Speaker 2: hunt racist right in the face. Hey, welcome back, fan
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Speaker 2: fam to another fantastic episode of four All Nerds. And
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Speaker 2: as usual, we're bringing you the best when it comes
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Speaker 2: into interviews, and today it's like unlike any other right,
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Speaker 2: we always have some amazing creators. This one is an
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Speaker 2: award winning illustrator, if I do say so myself, graphic designer, writer,
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Speaker 2: I know that you have a passion for social change
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Speaker 2: and you exhibit that and your creativity with your work.
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Speaker 1: And you're the founder of Hero Nation.
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Speaker 2: It's a creative studio that champions black and evers voices
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Speaker 2: through fiction. You are twenty twenty four Wordy of the
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Speaker 2: Arc Front Grant and your works have been featured by Netflix, DC, Comments, Image,
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Speaker 2: Ony Press and more. So, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome
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Speaker 2: Ja Hero.
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Speaker 3: Thank you. Oh my goodness, all those accolades just list
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Speaker 3: it out like that.
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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much for coming on the show.
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Speaker 2: I always got to upload everyone for listening to us.
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Speaker 2: We've been saying, if you have a comic or a
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Speaker 2: project or andy then you're working on, reach out to
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Speaker 2: us and tell us we want to talk to you.
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Speaker 2: And you diggest that you reached out to us.
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Speaker 1: So thank you. Want to give you kuto kudos for that.
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Speaker 2: And now here you are, so there are plenty of
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Speaker 2: people who've never seen you before, have no idea what
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Speaker 2: you've done, why you're even here on this show. Can
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Speaker 2: you please give people just an overview of what you're
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Speaker 2: working on and what you do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So, as you said, my name is Jay Hero.
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Speaker 3: I am just an avid believer in leaning into part
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Speaker 3: of my purpose and inspiring positive change in the world.
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Speaker 3: And I've always been that way to I was a kid,
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Speaker 3: and that's evolved differently from whether or not I want
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Speaker 3: to do things like directly protesting or using my or
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Speaker 3: organizing and started a nonprofit which I did you know
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Speaker 3: back in my twenties, and or doing storytelling that helps
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Speaker 3: to provide empowerment or provide awareness on issues that are
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Speaker 3: that are trying to be erased. So I am all
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Speaker 3: about using my gifts, my creativity to help empower and
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Speaker 3: uplift people, especially black folk, especially black queer folk, and
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Speaker 3: especially in that kind of space of spaces in a
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Speaker 3: way that I hope resonates, that provides and inspires a
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Speaker 3: sense of rest, respection and even self reflection on just
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Speaker 3: the of again, of empowerment, of understanding who we are
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Speaker 3: as a people, and things of that sort. And so
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Speaker 3: that is sort of being reflect that avidly in the
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Speaker 3: work that I'm currently working on, which is which was
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Speaker 3: a graphic novel turn into and now a comic book
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Speaker 3: series called Star Wielder, which is a story about turning
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Speaker 3: fear into power or emotional pain into strength. And so
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Speaker 3: we talk a lot about because we live in an
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Speaker 3: age full of very much, you know, social unrestings like that.
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Speaker 3: You know, age of fear is what I say, all
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Speaker 3: the fear mongering, all the hatred. You know, you also
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Speaker 3: wonder what it does to people on a mental health perspective.
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Speaker 3: You know a lot of us who are experiencing things
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Speaker 3: like chronic depression and anxiety or all those kinds of things.
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Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people are experiencing that
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Speaker 3: to a degree, you know, and I think creating stories
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Speaker 3: that recognize and hold space for those emotions and figuring
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Speaker 3: out ways that we could get through them not to
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Speaker 3: And I know there's this approach, and I think that
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Speaker 3: it's valid if that works for you. You know, I
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Speaker 3: think for me, like for example, when it comes to
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Speaker 3: things like fear, we tend to have an a that
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Speaker 3: fear needs to be just completely destroyed or annihilated out
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Speaker 3: of our lives. It has no place. But in my
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Speaker 3: research and the things that I've looked into in my experience,
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Speaker 3: fear does have a place. It's just about developing a
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Speaker 3: healthy relationship with it. It's supposed to warn you, to
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Speaker 3: tell you if things are right are wrong, something needs
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Speaker 3: to change in you. And so in this story in
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Speaker 3: Star Wielder again a story about turning fear into power,
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Speaker 3: it follows that journey through the eyes of a young
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Speaker 3: black and girl named kr Kelly, who is from Detroit,
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Speaker 3: who is paraphobic and one that develops the ability to
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Speaker 3: wield flames. And so we learn that in her journey
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Speaker 3: that part of it is about learning to face her fear,
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Speaker 3: to face her shadow, to face her fear of her
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Speaker 3: light of her strength, which a lot of people I
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Speaker 3: think can resonate with. But also as she's dealing with
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Speaker 3: all of this change, this traumatic evolution, if you will.
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Speaker 3: She's enduring a lot of grief and in the time
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Speaker 3: of law, a lot of time of death. Many of
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Speaker 3: us are experiencing a lot of grief right now and
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Speaker 3: really are questioning if and how can we hold all
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Speaker 3: of this and do we have the space to hold
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Speaker 3: all of this grief and pain? And on top of that,
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Speaker 3: how can we turn this into a source of strength
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Speaker 3: and power. And that's the journey that Kiawa has to
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Speaker 3: go through because she loses her grandmother who was a
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Speaker 3: pivotal figure in the Detroit community. And you know, that's
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Speaker 3: something that I've been resonating with as well, because you know,
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Speaker 3: I've been trying to create a story that also resonates
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Speaker 3: with my history with regards to honoring the black woman
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Speaker 3: in my life. I never really had an avid grandmother
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Speaker 3: growing up. They have all passed away, and so in
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Speaker 3: this story too, I'm also trying to create a grandmother
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Speaker 3: that I wish I had. Story through our journey and
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Speaker 3: this and this this woman that has meant so much
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Speaker 3: to her. So really, as we take this story, the
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Speaker 3: theme of the story fear into power, we see that
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Speaker 3: to explore through Kiaur's journey, through her grandmother's and her
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Speaker 3: name is Roxy, through Detroit's journey as a setting Detroit's people,
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Speaker 3: because we see it begins the story begins and issue
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Speaker 3: one and it starts nineteen sixty seven Detroit Rebellion, and
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Speaker 3: then we highlight the Birdwood Wall, which some people don't
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Speaker 3: know about. So honestly, I'm in this zone of storytelling,
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Speaker 3: of really in this playbox of again once again seeing
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Speaker 3: what I can do to brainforth positive change in the
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Speaker 3: world with my abilities here.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I appreciate that, and I appreciate the intro.
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Speaker 2: This was like a nice thesis statement that you provided
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Speaker 2: to like give us an understanding. Let me just touch
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Speaker 2: back on something you said just about your history. You
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Speaker 2: know you mentioned you also do this because you want
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Speaker 2: to this story. One of the main points of stories,
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Speaker 2: having this grandmother that's around and really doing a lot
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Speaker 2: for this character, and that's something that you wish you have.
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Speaker 2: What is your background, Like, do you come from a
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Speaker 2: very could you also sound a little academic to me?
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Speaker 1: I'm just like, do you have an academic background on this?
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Speaker 2: You know a little bit of uh, you know, you
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Speaker 2: read a lot of self help books.
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Speaker 1: Like you sound like you've done a lot in this space.
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Speaker 2: No, it just sounds like not to say that you
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Speaker 2: know everything right, but it sounds like that you've you know,
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Speaker 2: you've really contemplated and review this and really done some research,
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Speaker 2: you know, and maybe that could be.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're in psychology. I don't know, but can
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Speaker 1: you tell us some more about that?
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Speaker 3: So I do not have to do the great psychology
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Speaker 3: or anything, although those topics are very interesting. But I
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Speaker 3: am a very avid researcher. I try to read a
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Speaker 3: lot when it comes to understanding these things. When it
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Speaker 3: came to approaching storytelling again, you know, it's great to
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Speaker 3: have very uh cool thematic things like cool powers and
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Speaker 3: flashy effects and cool fight scenes, but you want something more,
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Speaker 3: at least for me, I want something. I wanted to
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Speaker 3: dig deeper, and so I felt like there was a
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Speaker 3: calling upon my life because I went through a lot
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Speaker 3: of traumatic experiences, you know, growing up. And I said,
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Speaker 3: you know what, there is probably someone out there who
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Speaker 3: needs to hear this, who is going through this depression
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Speaker 3: like me, who is having a hard time getting through
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Speaker 3: this fear, this shame, this grief. Whatever you're feeling like me,
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Speaker 3: what can I do to help people? And I want
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Speaker 3: to liken this to an experience I had back in
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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen where I launched. I organized a my own
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Speaker 3: comic con that was a free that was also called
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Speaker 3: hero Nation. I repurposed the name, but I had freeze toys,
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Speaker 3: free school supplies, free comic books, free video game tournaments,
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Speaker 3: free food. It was at a community center, a very
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Speaker 3: community centered event. And then I it was a successful event,
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Speaker 3: or said, it felt like home. It felt small but
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Speaker 3: not you know, but not too big. It felt very nice.
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Speaker 3: And I took that momentum when Black Panther came out
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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, organized one hundred and fifty kids to see
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Speaker 3: if the movie at an event had a Black African drum,
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Speaker 3: a dance, dance performers come out and perform. We had
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Speaker 3: free black literature, black artists. I had commissioned pieces specifically
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Speaker 3: for this event. So that is this is where my
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Speaker 3: heart is. It's always been where it is when it
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Speaker 3: comes to trying to inspire this change with my creativity,
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Speaker 3: with my gifts and within the space of nerdom.
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Speaker 2: And so and your gifts being illustration, like where did
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Speaker 2: that come from? Was that always throughout your life?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Illustration has always been a thing, and me
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Speaker 3: and myself as a writer has definitely been Uh. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I've always beten on and off throughout my life, but
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Speaker 3: more recently it's been more especially especially pecifically in this medium.
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Speaker 3: Comic book medium is very new, it's very different, and
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Speaker 3: so I'm learning a lot about myself and this adventure.
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Speaker 3: And so as someone who tries to be very self reflective,
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Speaker 3: tries to be very mindful and intentional, I can't help
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Speaker 3: but be changed by this process. So it's digressing a bit.
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Speaker 3: So it makes me think like when people who create
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Speaker 3: these wonderful, beautiful characters who are you know, morally sound
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Speaker 3: and whatnot, turned out to be terrible. So for me,
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Speaker 3: it's like, as an artist, how can you not be
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Speaker 3: transformed by your process? And I'm allowing that. I'm being
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Speaker 3: open to that, allowing it to happen because I think
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Speaker 3: that's what should happen, because that's how you become a
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Speaker 3: better person. Because if you're creating characters like I've never
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Speaker 3: been a black girl, I've never been someone who had
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Speaker 3: certain physical disabilities, you know, things like that, But I'm
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Speaker 3: creating these things in my story. I think it presents
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Speaker 3: me an opportunity to further empathize and understand these perspectives
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Speaker 3: in a way that maybe I didn't understand before since
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Speaker 3: I wasn't given you know, I didn't allow myself the
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Speaker 3: space to explore that in that kind of way. And
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Speaker 3: so it gives me again an opportunity to practice empathy,
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Speaker 3: practice compassion, and all these different things. And I'm very
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Speaker 3: excited about the process.
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Speaker 4: Nice Well, I know we were when we were reading
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Speaker 4: about it, and just you were distressing us and you
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Speaker 4: said that you talked about how one of her big
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Speaker 4: things is she has to overcome her own fear of
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Speaker 4: her own power. So what led you to choose Fire
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Speaker 4: as her power and her fear?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's an excellent question, by the way. So
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Speaker 3: for one, I think Fire has this, you know, we
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Speaker 3: see a lot of and across culture, across different mediums,
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Speaker 3: Fire has different connotations of it's supposed to represent anger
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Speaker 3: or things like that, and that's not something I want
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Speaker 3: I wanted to subvert, especially as a black girl, you know. There,
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Speaker 3: I wanted to place this character, to subvert this expectation
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Speaker 3: of this elemental ability which you know, you know, I
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Speaker 3: lean into that idea that originality is important, but it's
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Speaker 3: more important that your originality comes from the storytelling, comes
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Speaker 3: from you, but not necessarily from like you have to
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Speaker 3: have a completely unique power system per se, right, right,
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Speaker 3: So for me, it's like, let me just lean as
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Speaker 3: a fire. It's here, everyone wrong.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I also see you mentioned you know it
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Speaker 2: has this negative connotations, but and a lot of culture
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Speaker 2: also has a positive connotation, and it has a connotation
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Speaker 2: of cleansing, right bringing, you know, clearing the way of
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Speaker 2: the old to make way for the new, right, rebirth,
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Speaker 2: things like that, and.
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Speaker 3: I wanted to get into that. So about evolution, about transformation,
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Speaker 3: about healing, as you said too, and since we learn,
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Speaker 3: we'll learn that you know, her abilities are you know,
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Speaker 3: it's called storveal to for a reason, so you know,
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Speaker 3: it's all connected, and so we are just I am
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Speaker 3: just trying to really connect this idea of her physical
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Speaker 3: evolution with her emotional one so that it makes sense when,
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Speaker 3: for example, when she uses her powers like for the
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Speaker 3: first time, it's like this, and where she chooses to
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Speaker 3: use her powers for the first time, it's different than
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Speaker 3: what they happen to her, like that is a choice
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Speaker 3: she has to make because it really forces her to
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Speaker 3: face something she does not want to face, and she
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Speaker 3: has to do it alone. Ultimately, at the end of
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Speaker 3: the day, it's like when they say, I can lead
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Speaker 3: you to the water, but I cannot make you drink it.
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Speaker 3: You can have your whole community, all you know, your
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Speaker 3: whole family backing you up, leading you to the water,
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Speaker 3: but they cannot force you to drink it if you
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Speaker 3: do not want to. And so ultimately, you have to
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Speaker 3: face your fear on your own. And that's what she
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Speaker 3: has to make when she faces her power. So when
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Speaker 3: she does that, you know, I wanted to be a
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Speaker 3: moment that really resonates and that matters, and it's a
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Speaker 3: powerful moment. So just it's not just about the anger.
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Speaker 3: It's about the sadness, it's about the grief, it's about
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Speaker 3: the acceptance of self.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, she definitely has some anger in her though.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you're angry. Yeah, but I don't
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Speaker 3: want it to be like a thing where that's the.
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Speaker 1: Main focus, right, but the angry black girl exactly.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but she definitely you know, I was definitely
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Speaker 4: in the preview.
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Speaker 1: I saw the punch.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but even before the punch, the words had a
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Speaker 4: bit more like, Yeah, I was a bit, you know,
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Speaker 4: fearful for old girl at that point. You know she
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Speaker 4: was definitely mouthed and off.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. You know what I want
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Speaker 1: to go attle bit more about Star will do?
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Speaker 2: You mentioned how that has obviously that the name has
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Speaker 2: meaning and connection to the fire and all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: This idea you mentioned on your Kickstarter it goes back
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Speaker 2: to twenty seventeen when you first created like this character.
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Speaker 2: What inspired you to revisit this character years later? Because I
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Speaker 2: see it was one from twenty seventeen to a jump
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Speaker 2: at twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 3: Right, that's a long time.
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Speaker 1: What happened between that time?
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Speaker 4: Not really? Time's not that's right.
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Speaker 1: Time is a construct, right, you're right, But that's said.
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Speaker 2: What happened to make you go back and say, you
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Speaker 2: know what, this is actually a viable idea?
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Speaker 1: Was it just it was just the right time? Like,
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Speaker 1: tell me more about that.
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Speaker 3: Honestly, it came from the idea of me wanting to
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Speaker 3: I can't say what I want to think they didn't
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Speaker 3: It will give things away. But I don't want to
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Speaker 3: say nothing. But I would just say that I had
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Speaker 3: this idea. I saw this character that I did back
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Speaker 3: at twenty seven. It was just, you know, I was
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Speaker 3: just at the time, I said, let me just do
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Speaker 3: this character. I was practicing my illustration skills and I
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Speaker 3: tried to do more original art and I just did it.
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Speaker 3: And then I saw it. You know how Facebook reminds
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Speaker 3: you of old stuff and the flashback posts and throwbacks.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, huh. And I was looking for a story
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Speaker 3: to tell and I and I sat there with and
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Speaker 3: I'm said, you is this you know? And I don't
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Speaker 3: know if it was this was a call or answer
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Speaker 3: from the ancestors or or whatnot, but it resonated. I said,
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Speaker 3: let me let me take this. I feel like I
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Speaker 3: can do something with this. And it took me a
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Speaker 3: few iterations of Kiara to get to this point. As
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Speaker 3: you can saw on the Kickstarter, it took me a
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Speaker 3: couple versions of her to get to where she is today,
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Speaker 3: because at one moment, it was more very although the
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Speaker 3: story is sci fi fantasy with historical fiction things like
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Speaker 3: that it is, it was very much more sci fi
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Speaker 3: literarlier on, and then I added more fantastical elements and
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Speaker 3: then I was like, okay, this is changing who she is,
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Speaker 3: I'm like it and it was an adventure. So it
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Speaker 3: started off as that. And then when I added the
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Speaker 3: story to it and I went through shit, I went
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Speaker 3: through things, you know, I got wisdom, I got experienced.
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Speaker 3: I'm saying, I think I'm ready to tell something because
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Speaker 3: I've been through something and I want to tell somebody
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Speaker 3: about it and helped them get through what they're going through,
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Speaker 3: like me too. And I think when I said I'm ready,
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Speaker 3: although I am afraid, just like Kiara here, I had
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Speaker 3: to even now this Kickstarter, this writing, exposing myself, this
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Speaker 3: being vulnerable with my art, of my creativity, I'm in
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Speaker 3: some ways a very similar journey through her as her,
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Speaker 3: you know, facing my fear and trying to turn it
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Speaker 3: into something. You know, so I'm also leaning into what
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Speaker 3: would she do in that kind of.
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Speaker 1: Way too, So I see, Yeah, why turn into the Kickstarter?
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Speaker 2: What do you thought you thought Kickstarter was the best
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Speaker 2: platform to get your creative idea off the ground, Like,
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Speaker 2: what made you choose to do this?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I thought, you know, for one, in a time
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Speaker 3: like this, it would be advantageous for me to just
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Speaker 3: for one, it was advantageous for me to get the
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Speaker 3: word out to help you know, spread for marketing purposes,
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Speaker 3: to help me finish the book, because fifty plus pages
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Speaker 3: of story is a lot of work, and you know,
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Speaker 3: helping getting funding to help finish that for people who
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Speaker 3: believe in the projects, who want to invest in me,
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Speaker 3: is a dream come true. And also Kickstarter is just
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Speaker 3: you know, one of the more, if not the most
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Speaker 3: popular power funding platform out here. So I wanted to
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Speaker 3: try my hand at that. Although there were other viable options,
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Speaker 3: I know they had the requirements that some of them
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Speaker 3: weren't exactly feeling. But I didn't want to just try
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Speaker 3: my hand on kickstart to see because that's say, that's
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Speaker 3: been the thing for people for them.
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Speaker 2: And I asked, because there are creators in your position
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Speaker 2: that are trying to figure out how do they get funding?
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Speaker 1: How do they get their project finished? They know they
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Speaker 1: need thousands?
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Speaker 2: Is this like you know, so they would love to
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Speaker 2: know what your experience has been. I mean, I am
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Speaker 2: looking at your kickstarted right now. You have a fifteen
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Speaker 2: K goal, you're at thirty one hundred, you have twenty
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Speaker 2: three days to do it right, and you are, as
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Speaker 2: you mentioned, you're doing this scared right, like you don't
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Speaker 2: know what's going to happen, but you are driving forward
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Speaker 2: and I think that's really powerful, right, Like you you
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Speaker 2: may not know that this is going to go the
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Speaker 2: way you want, but you're driving forward, right and you're
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Speaker 2: doing what you can and get the word out.
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Speaker 3: Let me tell you. When I hit that launch button,
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Speaker 3: immediately I felt like I had a panic attack. Seriously,
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, I did what if that?
17:53
Speaker 3: Like all the what if starts popping up my head
17:56
Speaker 3: and I had to call one of my friends, No, Greg,
17:58
Speaker 3: you know, I had to call him. I was like, Greg, Oh,
18:00
Speaker 3: please help me. I'll figured out what if this happens.
18:02
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh dude. So you know that was the
18:05
Speaker 3: anxiety part. But you know, I have to think about
18:07
Speaker 3: the worst case scenario, and that is I will fail,
18:10
Speaker 3: being afraid of my failure and being afraid of feeling
18:14
Speaker 3: like I'm a failure, and so I have to really
18:15
Speaker 3: sit with that. I said, Okay, Jay, you know what
18:17
Speaker 3: this is about. So let's get to the bottom of it.
18:19
Speaker 3: Let's get to the bottom of your worst fear in
18:21
Speaker 3: this moment and nip it in the butt and face it.
18:24
Speaker 3: And so let's say the kickstarter does fail, Does that
18:26
Speaker 3: mean you or the story are a failure. No, it
18:28
Speaker 3: means a variety of different things may occur that you
18:30
Speaker 3: may need to fix, you may need to revisit because
18:32
Speaker 3: people still believe in you and the story. So sit
18:35
Speaker 3: with that and know that even if this does not succeed,
18:38
Speaker 3: you will still succeed. And I have to sit with it.
18:40
Speaker 3: I said, Okay, you right, Jay, Damn you ate that
18:43
Speaker 3: a little bit, you know.
18:44
Speaker 2: So I'm like, you have sixty seven backers and I
18:47
Speaker 2: don't know people because of social media in the way
18:50
Speaker 2: numbers are distorted. Literally, you walk into a room right
18:53
Speaker 2: now and sixty seven people say here's some money. That's
18:56
Speaker 2: a significant amount of people, exactly similar to like if
18:59
Speaker 2: you walk in the room and fifty people say you
19:01
Speaker 2: look good, that's a little people. When people get the
19:05
Speaker 2: fifty first, they think they needn't do nothing. I'm just like,
19:07
Speaker 2: you kind of have to look at it differently. And
19:08
Speaker 2: this is not trying to make this is not trying
19:11
Speaker 2: to be a you know, half last fool person. This
19:13
Speaker 2: is this is fact, and I think that gets lost,
19:16
Speaker 2: especially in this digital age where where numbers are don't
19:20
Speaker 2: feel tangible anymore.
19:21
Speaker 1: Like absolutely you do have a lot.
19:23
Speaker 2: Of people interested in this project, including us, because we're
19:26
Speaker 2: talking about it right now.
19:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, and thank you for that. I appreciate that. And yes,
19:29
Speaker 3: as you said, like this can be dehumanizing in some
19:32
Speaker 3: ways because you are essentially we're doing this in a
19:36
Speaker 3: capitalist society, recognizing that first of all, super important that
19:39
Speaker 3: we don't this is not ideal for any of us.
19:40
Speaker 3: Ideally we would have the ability to fun or do
19:45
Speaker 3: what we wanted to do in an unideal world. But
19:47
Speaker 3: since we're here, how do we navigate this in the
19:49
Speaker 3: best way scenario? So for me, I try to approach
19:52
Speaker 3: this with a lot of grace by coming from a
19:55
Speaker 3: place of understanding that knowing that people are going through
19:57
Speaker 3: a lot, And so when I even ask for support,
20:00
Speaker 3: like I don't get straight up, I try not to
20:02
Speaker 3: straight up ask. I just say, hey, is there something
20:04
Speaker 3: I can do for you? Is there you know, things
20:07
Speaker 3: like reciprocating that kind of stuff. So yeah, that's important
20:10
Speaker 3: for me as well.
20:12
Speaker 4: Mhm. And something that I really like reading about the
20:16
Speaker 4: story and everything on the kids Starter is it. And
20:18
Speaker 4: I see you, you know over here rocking the Superman
20:21
Speaker 4: shirt of course as well. Yeah, so you talked about
20:24
Speaker 4: how you know in your life you've done and you've
20:26
Speaker 4: even mentioning on the show already that you've been through
20:29
Speaker 4: a lot. You've had a lot of grief, a lot
20:31
Speaker 4: of depression. You talked about your own battles with OCD
20:34
Speaker 4: and other things of that nature, and you really want
20:38
Speaker 4: this book to inspire hoping people. And I really love
20:41
Speaker 4: that because we've been talking about that a lot on
20:43
Speaker 4: the show lately. When Superman and fantast Support came out,
20:46
Speaker 4: we spoke about how a lot of sci fi and fantasy.
20:50
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it yet, don't spoil it.
20:53
Speaker 1: No, it inspired a lot of hope.
20:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, in general.
20:57
Speaker 4: The thing is that, yeah, in general, a lot of
20:59
Speaker 4: me right now isn't very hopeful, especially in science fiction.
21:03
Speaker 4: It doesn't really there's not a lot of forward thinking,
21:06
Speaker 4: hopeful things. And so I like to see this book,
21:10
Speaker 4: which you say inspire sope. So what's something that you
21:13
Speaker 4: would like people to take from it?
21:15
Speaker 3: My hope is that with this book that readers can
21:20
Speaker 3: have a chance to, I think again, be inspired by
21:24
Speaker 3: their own ability to face their own fear, to be
21:26
Speaker 3: inspired by their own strength and their own power to
21:29
Speaker 3: just go out and like inspire change and be a
21:33
Speaker 3: force for good in the world. Like we all I think,
21:36
Speaker 3: or many of us have that ability. I think many
21:39
Speaker 3: of us doubt ourselves, whether because we are afraid, whether
21:43
Speaker 3: because we're waiting for someone else to do it. But
21:46
Speaker 3: then I'm going to ask you one question, why not you?
21:51
Speaker 4: I don't want to get shot?
21:54
Speaker 2: A lot of it is sometimes self preservation, right, and
21:57
Speaker 2: it's all of it's just straight up fear and having
22:00
Speaker 2: a hard time to overcoming that fear.
22:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I do think that's important. I think what's
22:05
Speaker 3: now it's also like individualism and this idea of like
22:09
Speaker 3: you know and I it's it's hard because we do
22:11
Speaker 3: want to protect ourselves. What they rely on is this
22:14
Speaker 3: whole individualism aspect of like just me, just me and
22:19
Speaker 3: look out for me. And that's because community is what's
22:21
Speaker 3: going to get us out of this. But we got
22:23
Speaker 3: to learn how to face that together.
22:25
Speaker 4: And that's the thing though, And that's something that I've
22:27
Speaker 4: been really working at, is building more community because it feels,
22:31
Speaker 4: like like Tydana was saying, in this digital age, it's
22:35
Speaker 4: really difficult to find community that really matters.
22:39
Speaker 3: Is what I would say.
22:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like like minded individuals because we
22:45
Speaker 4: spend a lot of time online just arguing, and it's
22:49
Speaker 4: designed for that. You know, it's straight up designed to
22:53
Speaker 4: build confusion and division amongst people, and so it's more
22:58
Speaker 4: and more.
22:59
Speaker 3: Difficult to find community.
23:00
Speaker 4: And so I really liked that. And one other thing
23:03
Speaker 4: I really really really loved about this book or just
23:06
Speaker 4: you know, what you're putting into it so far, is
23:08
Speaker 4: the history that we're seeing in Detroit. And I saw
23:13
Speaker 4: it felt like to mention some Epha missions, you know,
23:15
Speaker 4: some Yoruba, some all kinds of things in there. But
23:18
Speaker 4: also I wanted you to know about the wall that
23:21
Speaker 4: you mentioned before and what was the story behind that.
23:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Burdwood Wall, it's like a red line
23:28
Speaker 3: wall that was introducing Detroit in the early nineteen hundreds,
23:34
Speaker 3: and so it was another similar to what happened in
23:39
Speaker 3: the South. It was just another opportunity by which white
23:43
Speaker 3: folks came in and said, hey, we want to make
23:45
Speaker 3: sure that we protect our communities, our spaces. You're finding
23:49
Speaker 3: that black people are coming on our side of town,
23:51
Speaker 3: and so let's look up this wall to help divide
23:53
Speaker 3: and you know, increase property value in what like a
23:56
Speaker 3: literal wall, a littal wall, that's history of and but
24:01
Speaker 3: but the beauty of the wall today and this is
24:03
Speaker 3: what is you know, again going back to the name
24:06
Speaker 3: of the story of turning fear into power, it is
24:08
Speaker 3: now a canvas for all these beautiful murals. I knew it.
24:13
Speaker 3: The people in the community who it turns into something,
24:15
Speaker 3: something repurposed.
24:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, see, I mean that's what you do.
24:18
Speaker 4: You didn't have to finish as soon as you're like,
24:20
Speaker 4: you know, the beauty is like you knew that joint.
24:25
Speaker 2: We're gonna add arcs. That's what we are, yeah, And
24:29
Speaker 2: that's that's who we are as a people.
24:30
Speaker 3: And that's what part of the story is about too.
24:32
Speaker 3: And that's why I wanted to highlight the de trade
24:33
Speaker 3: up rising in like the bird Wood Wall, and we'll
24:36
Speaker 3: see that other aspects of that will be highlighted into
24:38
Speaker 3: the story as well.
24:39
Speaker 1: So I think that's great history.
24:41
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously this is history that continuously gets buried,
24:44
Speaker 2: you know, American history that gets buried anyway.
24:46
Speaker 1: So but you just I had no idea that was
24:47
Speaker 1: such a wall.
24:48
Speaker 2: Like, I know, these walls exist, we see them all
24:50
Speaker 2: over the world, really, but I've always known about the
24:52
Speaker 2: world stuff. Before I knew about what's happened right or
24:55
Speaker 2: what has happened right here in this country. I had
24:56
Speaker 2: no idea there was an essentially on a park tide
24:59
Speaker 2: wall right there in.
24:59
Speaker 3: The Okay, yeah, no idea.
25:04
Speaker 1: So there to this day.
25:06
Speaker 2: I mean, granted it may not serve the same purpose
25:07
Speaker 2: or maybe you know, in hell and figuratively maybe a do. Right,
25:12
Speaker 2: Maybe it's still some remnists about you know, it's it's
25:14
Speaker 2: a literal symbol of redlining, right, So exactly. I think
25:19
Speaker 2: that's because again, a lot of these terms and concepts
25:22
Speaker 2: are so vague, right and amorphos to people. When you
25:25
Speaker 2: talk about red lining and gerem mendery and all this
25:27
Speaker 2: other stuff, like people don't know what that means. But
25:29
Speaker 2: then when you showed them, like yo, there was the
25:31
Speaker 2: actual wall that they built to keep black folks out.
25:33
Speaker 3: Exactly, that's different. Yeah, even people that are read their
25:36
Speaker 3: previe was like, oh man, I didn't know about the
25:38
Speaker 3: birdwood wall, Like yeah, yeah, that's how we need more
25:41
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
25:41
Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're doing the work that a lot
25:43
Speaker 2: of like really like great great shows recently like Watchmen
25:46
Speaker 2: and all these other things have done to try to
25:48
Speaker 2: pull into the forefront history that has actually occurred, right,
25:51
Speaker 2: And yes it may be steeped in the fictional story,
25:54
Speaker 2: but it's real things that have happened, like total really happened, right,
25:57
Speaker 2: you know, there's all these different things that really truly
25:59
Speaker 2: had and are as mentioned, they're hidden or they're just
26:03
Speaker 2: undertaught or whatever the case means, they've.
26:05
Speaker 3: Been actively erased to that race, right. Literally, that's and
26:09
Speaker 3: that's the thing we're it's literally, uh, an intentional movement
26:13
Speaker 3: against us in our stories, our history, to erase it.
26:16
Speaker 3: They're the whole book banning, the book burnings, like and
26:20
Speaker 3: we there has to be an intentional effort to combat that,
26:23
Speaker 3: I think, and I want to be a part of that,
26:25
Speaker 3: you know with this story.
26:27
Speaker 2: You know, I just want to kind of writing along
26:29
Speaker 2: the same lines as Ben mentioned in community and all
26:31
Speaker 2: this stuff. You have hero Nation, which tell me more
26:36
Speaker 2: about what heronation is. Like, is this your publishing arm
26:39
Speaker 2: Is this just your community where you're trying to bring
26:41
Speaker 2: in others?
26:42
Speaker 1: It is just just your house? Like what is hero Nation?
26:45
Speaker 4: So?
26:45
Speaker 3: Hero Nation is my creative studio, So okay, I do
26:48
Speaker 3: that with do my do there? I do my illustration work,
26:51
Speaker 3: my brand designing, uh, and my branch strategy work. But
26:54
Speaker 3: ideally in the future, like I want to make this
26:57
Speaker 3: a space where creatives can come in. I want to
27:00
Speaker 3: make it a whole thing. I wanted to make this
27:02
Speaker 3: a legit studio space, a delegit studio where I can
27:05
Speaker 3: have other creative creative studio or creatives and come and join,
27:08
Speaker 3: and U join the movement of telling, of the mission
27:12
Speaker 3: of really centering stories around black folk that are fictional,
27:16
Speaker 3: that are inspired, you know, this positive change. Because my
27:20
Speaker 3: voice can only get so far.
27:22
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, only one person.
27:24
Speaker 3: Apply on my uh my concept. So I'm trying. I'm
27:32
Speaker 3: trying to just preferably we'll come a point where I
27:35
Speaker 3: have to say, like, Okay, I got to get someone
27:36
Speaker 3: else's voice in here and things like that. But that's
27:39
Speaker 3: the go for me in the future.
27:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm on your side like i've been. I
27:43
Speaker 2: was looking through your portfolio. I mean, you have this
27:46
Speaker 2: really amazing, like really beautiful arts, very expressive, lots of color,
27:50
Speaker 2: the ones that are very colorful, lots of color work,
27:54
Speaker 2: and my favorite probably this storm one that's that's his
27:57
Speaker 2: black power on it, Like, yeah, I love has her
28:00
Speaker 2: black suit that's fire. Even Joel Joel, our social media manager,
28:04
Speaker 2: he has one of your Nubia prints on at home.
28:08
Speaker 3: It's probably the Champion Nubia I probably yeah, probably.
28:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly that one.
28:14
Speaker 2: So I mean I'm sharing that to also lets you know,
28:17
Speaker 2: like it's true that your art and your your work
28:20
Speaker 2: is reaching you know.
28:22
Speaker 1: Joel's always you know, all the way on the other
28:24
Speaker 1: side of country.
28:24
Speaker 2: And I'm saying like and and there's people in between,
28:27
Speaker 2: and we mentioned the sixty seven people already supporting you,
28:29
Speaker 2: like you are already on the path to reaching you know,
28:34
Speaker 2: those going back beyond your borders, right and going closer
28:38
Speaker 2: to where you want to be, which is having this
28:40
Speaker 2: space for where more creatives can grow.
28:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Thank you. I really appreciate that.
28:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I mean you've also some of your work.
28:50
Speaker 2: You said, it's a period in like Netflix and other places, like.
28:53
Speaker 1: Where where else have you worked?
28:54
Speaker 4: Yeah?
28:55
Speaker 1: How was those experiences?
28:56
Speaker 3: Well a while ago. This is, like I said, like
28:58
Speaker 3: a long long time ago. I think wasn't that longer.
29:01
Speaker 3: But I was in a campaign for Netflix back at
29:04
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, and it was called the first time that
29:06
Speaker 3: they I saw me, and they asked me this question,
29:09
Speaker 3: like when was the first time you saw yourself represented controls.
29:13
Speaker 3: I had such a hardhome answering that question because the
29:15
Speaker 3: reason why is I didn't never I never saw all
29:18
Speaker 3: of me in just a character, just you know, it
29:22
Speaker 3: was just pieces of me I saw in different characters,
29:25
Speaker 3: and like, for example, I saw a piece of me,
29:27
Speaker 3: and in Virgil I saw a piece of me, and
29:30
Speaker 3: Superman I saw a piece of me. And Xena like,
29:33
Speaker 3: you know this queer kid, you know, who didn't have
29:35
Speaker 3: a lot of cue representation, like Xena was like, I
29:37
Speaker 3: was like, why am I liking her?
29:38
Speaker 1: Like that Zena was that girl?
29:40
Speaker 3: Ooh, but yeah she was all would be that girl.
29:44
Speaker 3: But no, I did that. And then sometime after that,
29:47
Speaker 3: I did some work for Luke Cage. It was it
29:53
Speaker 3: was that was great, and I think after that, I've
29:56
Speaker 3: been doing I do murals, I do outside of commissions,
29:59
Speaker 3: like the comic book stuff. I've done neurals, I've done
30:04
Speaker 3: exhibition spaces, I've done museum I designed the museum exhibition.
30:07
Speaker 3: So I just got done literally designing, like not too
30:10
Speaker 3: long ago, a museum space for a black Bottom exhibition,
30:13
Speaker 3: which black Bottom for now people are not familiar with,
30:16
Speaker 3: or was a prominent community here that was decimated. It
30:20
Speaker 3: was here in Detroit that was decimated in the nineteen
30:23
Speaker 3: fifties and sixties. But it was very very one like
30:26
Speaker 3: a lot of here in the United States, a lot
30:28
Speaker 3: of black communities around that time where it was flourishing.
30:33
Speaker 3: They were struggling, but they did the best that they
30:34
Speaker 3: could with what they had and they were flourishing, you know,
30:36
Speaker 3: with that. But that community was eventually destroyed for urban
30:41
Speaker 3: renewal and so as that was uprooted, you know, that
30:46
Speaker 3: was what the story was there. But I designed an
30:47
Speaker 3: exhibition for that. So I do all kinds of things
30:50
Speaker 3: in the creative space, but I try to keep it
30:52
Speaker 3: in the in the vein of you know, as in
30:54
Speaker 3: my mission of you know, spreading awareness and social activism
30:57
Speaker 3: and nerd them and stuff like that.
31:00
Speaker 4: Yeah.
31:00
Speaker 1: Absolutely, this is really good.
31:04
Speaker 2: I just hope you know that you know, you're helping
31:05
Speaker 2: to also inspire other people who want to be creatives,
31:07
Speaker 2: and you know, before we move on to the next
31:10
Speaker 2: part of this interview, were there any advice you want
31:12
Speaker 2: to give to budding creatives that want to at least
31:15
Speaker 2: get to your step, Like for some people looking at you, like, oh,
31:17
Speaker 2: he made it to the kickstarter phasebook.
31:20
Speaker 1: You know I'll never get there. Like, what advice do
31:22
Speaker 1: you have?
31:23
Speaker 3: I hope they don't say that? Please friends?
31:25
Speaker 4: People do?
31:25
Speaker 1: People do?
31:28
Speaker 4: Say everything?
31:29
Speaker 3: Give yourself grace, you know, give yourself grace. And I
31:33
Speaker 3: think one that and nothing I want to say is
31:35
Speaker 3: know your why because in the times when you do
31:38
Speaker 3: doubt yourself life like that, you write down and you're
31:41
Speaker 3: questioning and you're doing your kickstarted question if people are
31:43
Speaker 3: going to support you and you have a story in mind,
31:46
Speaker 3: you have to know why you're telling that story. Why
31:48
Speaker 3: do you believe in yourself? Why? You know your why?
31:52
Speaker 3: And that will get you through those times because that
31:55
Speaker 3: you know, when I'm crying, am I questioning? Am I
31:58
Speaker 3: on the right path? And then I remember why I'm
32:00
Speaker 3: doing this? I get the hell up and I said,
32:04
Speaker 3: I know why. Let me remind myself from one of
32:06
Speaker 3: who I am and why I'm doing this And so
32:08
Speaker 3: that's so important. So that would be one of the
32:10
Speaker 3: biggest piece of advice. I would tell you, So know
32:12
Speaker 3: your why, friend, and that will help you. And having
32:15
Speaker 3: that guy and that true north will help you get
32:18
Speaker 3: your get your journey.
32:21
Speaker 4: Very well said, Yeah, that's a bar and a lot
32:23
Speaker 4: of the things you said today are right, you know,
32:25
Speaker 4: some good advice for people, and just true knowledge to you.
32:28
Speaker 4: I wanted to one what you just said is something
32:30
Speaker 4: I always tell people in regards to anything creative. But
32:33
Speaker 4: I've always said that with DJing, especially, like if you
32:36
Speaker 4: don't love it, don't do it, because eventually you're going
32:39
Speaker 4: you know, it looks cute on the outside, but eventually
32:41
Speaker 4: you're gonna run into a lot of stuff that made
32:43
Speaker 4: it where you better love this stuff.
32:45
Speaker 3: It ain't always teaching.
32:47
Speaker 4: No, definitely. And then the other one you were talking
32:50
Speaker 4: about is how you felt like you weren't seen fully
32:53
Speaker 4: and I, you know, even myself, I always felt that
32:57
Speaker 4: because people would be like, oh, you're black, you must
33:00
Speaker 4: Storm must be you know, you must love Storm, and
33:02
Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, Actually, I grew up having a crush
33:05
Speaker 4: on Rogue and my favorite you know who I thought
33:08
Speaker 4: I saw myself in with Scott Summers, so you know,
33:10
Speaker 4: and it was this white dude who just happened to
33:13
Speaker 4: be more like who I was.
33:15
Speaker 1: It was more personality yeah yeah.
33:17
Speaker 4: Than any other characters. So I never really found it
33:20
Speaker 4: wasn't until recently, like with people like Prodigy and stuff
33:22
Speaker 4: like that where I was like, okay, yeah, yeah, there's
33:25
Speaker 4: the X man who I felt like, you know, that's
33:27
Speaker 4: who I was at that age.
33:28
Speaker 2: You know, it's like this, yeah, but exactly what you said,
33:31
Speaker 2: look at it's now right right.
33:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a grown ass man dog and I had
33:35
Speaker 4: to look back at thanks Prodigy. You know, if you've
33:38
Speaker 4: been around back.
33:39
Speaker 1: Then you know it's happening.
33:41
Speaker 2: And it's also because you have creators like Jay who
33:44
Speaker 2: are putting this for now no, and.
33:46
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's what I.
33:47
Speaker 1: Was gonna say, Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, man.
33:49
Speaker 4: No, that's exactly what I'm to say. It's good that
33:50
Speaker 4: you're putting this stuff out and then you're putting yourself
33:53
Speaker 4: into all the stuff you do, so that for people
33:56
Speaker 4: who are young and don't see themselves, they will start
33:59
Speaker 4: to see that. So it's because of people like you.
34:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so great work there, and I do want
34:06
Speaker 2: people to make sure that they check out your kick
34:08
Speaker 2: started for sure, So we'll talk about that again. But
34:10
Speaker 2: before we get there, we do have a section of
34:13
Speaker 2: our interviews called the brap segment where we do some
34:19
Speaker 2: rapid fire question and answers.
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Speaker 4: Are you ready, let's go?
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Speaker 2: Okay, Magneto or Professor X magneto. You said that with
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Speaker 2: an attitude?
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Speaker 1: What what I mean?
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Speaker 3: They're both I think they both have you know, obviously
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Speaker 3: they're issues. But I'm learning more about professor.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. You know, it gets like.
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Speaker 3: I grew up like, oh, he's got to go like
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Speaker 3: taking the kids in and I'm like, I learned some stuff.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh okay, but so yeah, and I understand.
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Speaker 3: I like just the you know, although he had he's
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Speaker 3: technically in some places in an anti hero or villain
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Speaker 3: or whatever. But I like, I like that I'm creating
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Speaker 3: a character that Twitter resonates with me in that character
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Speaker 3: in him, so like him.
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Speaker 1: That's the one. Yeah, I mean my shirt says it.
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Speaker 4: You go, all right, let's see Superman or Batman? Yeah, Superman.
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Speaker 2: You don't know, you don't like rich people that poor people.
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Speaker 2: You don't like to talk about Batman. You don't like
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Speaker 2: rich people that beat up poor people?
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Speaker 1: What not to love does happened? Listen?
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Speaker 2: This is Ben. This is actually that that comment is
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Speaker 2: actually from Ben. It has historically. I learned that from
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Speaker 2: Ben about uh, Bruce Wayne just being a rich person
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Speaker 2: that beats on poor people.
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Speaker 4: Ruce Wayne has really lets Luthor. He just likes Superman,
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Speaker 4: you know, like that's the only difference between the two,
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Speaker 4: Like you know, yeah that too. Yeah yeah, and he
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Speaker 4: loves leather, you know what I mean. But yeah, yeah, man,
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Speaker 4: you know.
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Speaker 1: Do you do you just decide question? Do you like horror?
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Speaker 1: The horror genre, horror films, horror? Yeah, yeah, you don't
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Speaker 1: mind it, okay?
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Speaker 2: Mike Myers, Freddy or Jason uh Man.
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Speaker 3: God, I think Freddi because, like just I say, because
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Speaker 3: it's history is more terrifying to me than that the
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Speaker 3: powers like nightmares, my god, like coming to life like
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Speaker 3: that was scary growing up. I'm like, turn this ship off, Like.
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Speaker 4: I feel like Freddy has like a huge lead in
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Speaker 4: this one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the scariest one of me. I mean easily
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Speaker 1: won this one.
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Speaker 2: But I'm just like, just for sheer reach alone, it
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Speaker 2: has to be Freddy.
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Speaker 4: And and Freddy is not just the fear, it's the hilarity.
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Speaker 4: Like if he doesn't win on fear, he definitely wins
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Speaker 4: to me just for being.
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Speaker 1: Just being funny.
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Speaker 4: Be funny to you, yo, go back and watch them joints.
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Speaker 4: I mean, like, no, he is a comedian well England, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: that dude could have done stand up the guy playing
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Speaker 4: Freddy because he is hilarious.
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Speaker 1: I had no idea.
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, yeah, go back and watch he is.
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Speaker 4: He makes jokes on all the kills, especially like after
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Speaker 4: I think it starts in two, the very first one
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Speaker 4: he's terrifying, and then two he makes a hilarious joke that,
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Speaker 4: oh my god, I can quote to this day, and
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Speaker 4: then from three four five on it's just jokes.
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Speaker 3: The Star Wars or Star Trek Star Wars. Nice.
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Speaker 1: Okay, who was your first geek crush?
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Speaker 3: He Oh my god, what.
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell us?
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Speaker 3: I don't know, like I have a geek crush.
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Speaker 2: Was there like a first character when you saw you
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Speaker 2: were like, oh they're kind of cute. I might talk
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Speaker 2: to them, no, or do We were just like these
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Speaker 2: are all I'm not really messing with these people.
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, then go ahead.
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Speaker 4: Then yeah, but then what character's death hurts you the most? Mmm?
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Speaker 3: I got to sit with that. That's I have to
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Speaker 3: I have to probably sit with that. I don't have
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Speaker 3: an answer for that right now, but I don't have
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Speaker 3: to do.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, you don't love the molds like you
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Speaker 4: don't love them holes because I don't care if you live,
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Speaker 4: don't care you die, I don't care.
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Speaker 1: What's your favorite superhero movie of all time?
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Speaker 3: I don't. It's hard because there's some there on the
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Speaker 3: same level in some ways for different reasons. And I
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Speaker 3: want to say that the thing the the movie that
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Speaker 3: really moved me the most. I have to say there's
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Speaker 3: a Superman the movie because it's the one that kick
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Speaker 3: started my love and pass for superheroes. And I even like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: it was that the Superman. I remember having the vhs.
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Speaker 3: They had the tyrofoam or the plastic that opened up,
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Speaker 3: uh you know, and.
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Speaker 4: You mean that the case to the click case, the yeah, yeah, yep.
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Speaker 2: And here's the last one. If you can have any
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Speaker 2: one superpower, what would it be?
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Speaker 3: Oh what? Uh maybe superstray. I'll figure it out because
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Speaker 3: you can get creative with that. You can creative super strength.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I like it.
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Speaker 2: Well, you have survived the brap segment, which also means
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Speaker 2: you have survived the four All Nerds interview. Thank you
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Speaker 2: so much again, mister j hero. Please let everyone know
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Speaker 2: where they can find you, where they can find your work,
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Speaker 2: and also again just if you can plug your Kickstarter
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Speaker 2: and what they need to do.
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Speaker 1: To help you out.
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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you so much. So you can find me
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Speaker 3: on all social media handles including Instagram, Twitter, Blue sky In,
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Speaker 3: TikTok or at I am j A y h E
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Speaker 3: r O. I'm Jay Hero. Also you can follow my
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Speaker 3: website at Hero Nationstudio dot and you want to check
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Speaker 3: out my Kickstarter, this information on my website. But also
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Speaker 3: if you want to go on Kickstarter, it's there too.
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Speaker 3: And also it's under all my bios on all my
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Speaker 3: websites all my social media platforms.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, excellent.
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Speaker 3: So also I want to plug in and say I
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Speaker 3: am also accepting commissions and so if you want to
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Speaker 3: Please so has it hesitate to reach out, I'll hook.
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