Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / The Brad Edwards Affidavit In Support Of Epstein Related Transparency (Part 6)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:02Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
- 0:05Speaker 1: where we left off with the Brad Edwards CVR A
- 0:09Speaker 1: Affid David. Another illustration of where the crime fraud misconduct
- 0:13Speaker 1: exception could potentially apply is with regard to information that
- 0:17Speaker 1: the government possesses that Matthew Minchell has a personal or
- 0:21Speaker 1: business relationship with defending Jeffrey Epstein. This could potentially show
- 0:25Speaker 1: misconduct by Menchell, and it also potentially a motive to
- 0:29Speaker 1: violate the victim's rights. Has explained previously, the government's Privileged
- 0:33Speaker 1: Log has numerous entries showing that Menchell was substantially and
- 0:37Speaker 1: personally involved in making decisions related to the Epstein prosecution.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Of the first Privilege log with regard to box number
- 0:46Speaker 1: three P zero one one nine two three two P
- 0:50Speaker 1: zero one one nine sixty six, the victims have information
- 0:53Speaker 1: suggesting that immediately after leaving the employment with the US
- 0:57Speaker 1: Attorney's Office, Menchell was associated with Epstein, can trolled entities
- 1:01Speaker 1: or had some business relationship with them. The documents that
- 1:04Speaker 1: the government possess showing a personal or business relationship between
- 1:08Speaker 1: one of its prosecutors and the man who was charged
- 1:11Speaker 1: with prosecuting should be produced. The government has admitted that
- 1:16Speaker 1: its internal affairs component, the Office of Professional Responsibility, has
- 1:20Speaker 1: collected information about possible improper behavior during the investigation of
- 1:24Speaker 1: the Epstein matter. Government answers to RFA twenty two. The
- 1:29Speaker 1: fact that the government's own investigating agencies have collected such
- 1:33Speaker 1: information demonstrates that there is a prima fossee case of
- 1:37Speaker 1: improper behavior which is enough to trigger the crime fraud misconduct.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Exception to various privileges, factual materials not privileged. As noted
- 1:47Speaker 1: in the accompanying legal memorandum, factual materials are generally not
- 1:51Speaker 1: covered by the privileges at issue in the case, many
- 1:54Speaker 1: of the material to which the government is asserting privilege
- 1:57Speaker 1: are factual materials ver of the attorney client privilege. The
- 2:02Speaker 1: government has asserted attorney client privilege regarding many documents. Yet
- 2:06Speaker 1: with regard to most of these assertions, it's impossible to
- 2:09Speaker 1: determine who is the attorney, who is the client, whether
- 2:12Speaker 1: professional legal services are being rendered, and whether the communications
- 2:16Speaker 1: were confidential to those involved in the delivery of legal services. Accordingly,
- 2:22Speaker 1: it's very difficult for me to respond to many of
- 2:25Speaker 1: the assertions of attorney client privilege, and in any event,
- 2:28Speaker 1: the government has failed to carry its burden of showing
- 2:31Speaker 1: that privilege applies. An illustration of documents at to which
- 2:36Speaker 1: attorney client privilege appears to have been improperly asserted or
- 2:40Speaker 1: inadequately described is found on page seven of the first
- 2:43Speaker 1: privilege Log with regard to supplemental box number three. The
- 2:47Speaker 1: entry for these twenty two pages of documents reads file
- 2:51Speaker 1: folder entitled information Package Drafts, containing several descriptions. To see
- 2:56Speaker 1: how the attorney client privilege applies to these documents, I
- 3:01Speaker 1: could provide many other illustrations of the problem. The government's
- 3:04Speaker 1: attorney client privilege claim directly covers situations where it was
- 3:08Speaker 1: in a fiduciary relationship with the victims and therefore is
- 3:11Speaker 1: limited in now asserting privilege. For example, page three of
- 3:16Speaker 1: the supplemental Privilege Log contains an entry concerning a costa
- 3:21Speaker 1: containing drafts of eleven thirty seven letters from Acosta to
- 3:26Speaker 1: ken Starr and from j. Slowman to Jay Lefkowitz, performance
- 3:29Speaker 1: and victim notification with handwritten notes and edits by Marie Villafauna.
- 3:35Speaker 1: This information goes very directly to the issue involved in
- 3:38Speaker 1: the case, as it goes directly to victim notification, Yet
- 3:41Speaker 1: the government has asserted an attorney client privilege to prevent
- 3:45Speaker 1: the victims from learning what's in these documents. The fiduciary
- 3:49Speaker 1: exception to the attorney client privilege applies in this situation
- 3:53Speaker 1: and limits the government's ability to invoke a privilege. This
- 3:57Speaker 1: also appears to be shared communication between the government and
- 4:00Speaker 1: Epstein's attorneys, and it's unclear how the attorney client privilege
- 4:04Speaker 1: could ethically apply to such documents. As One example of
- 4:08Speaker 1: why the victims have established a compelling need for material
- 4:11Speaker 1: described in the preceding paragraph is the fact that the
- 4:14Speaker 1: court has indicated that it will be considering an estoppel
- 4:18Speaker 1: argument raised by the government as a defense in the case.
- 4:22Speaker 1: The Court has noted that this argument implicates a fact sensitive,
- 4:25Speaker 1: equitable defense which must be considered in the historical, factual
- 4:29Speaker 1: context of the entire interface between Epstein, the relevant prosecutorial authorities,
- 4:35Speaker 1: and the offense victims, including an assessment of the allegation
- 4:39Speaker 1: of a deliberate conspiracy between Epstein and federal prosecutors to
- 4:43Speaker 1: keep the victims in the dark. On the pendency of
- 4:47Speaker 1: negotiation between Epstein and federal authorities until well after the
- 4:51Speaker 1: fact and presentation of the non prosecution agreement to them
- 4:55Speaker 1: was completed. The materials to which the government is asserting
- 4:59Speaker 1: attorney client privilege go directly to that interface between the victims,
- 5:03Speaker 1: the government, and Epstein. The victims have a compelling need
- 5:07Speaker 1: for the information, and the fiduciary exception to the attorney
- 5:10Speaker 1: client privilege applies to permit the court to provide these
- 5:13Speaker 1: documents to the victims. The government has not explained any
- 5:17Speaker 1: harm that would come from releasing the documents covered by
- 5:19Speaker 1: attorney client privilege to the victims. If the government raises
- 5:23Speaker 1: any such harm, I respectfully request an opportunity to provide
- 5:27Speaker 1: additional information on that alleged arm deliberative process privilege. Some
- 5:33Speaker 1: of the correspondents that is being withheld by the government
- 5:36Speaker 1: under the deliberative process privilege concerns an investigation that the
- 5:39Speaker 1: Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility opened with regard to
- 5:44Speaker 1: the Epstein case. This investigation was undertaken at the request
- 5:48Speaker 1: of the victims in the case. On December tenth, twenty ten,
- 5:51Speaker 1: CO Council Professor Paul Cassel of the University of Utah
- 5:55Speaker 1: College of Law and I met with US Attorney for
- 5:58Speaker 1: the Southern District of Florida guarding this case in the
- 6:01Speaker 1: US Attorney's office in Miami, Florida. On that date, Professor
- 6:06Speaker 1: Cassell presented a letter to the US Attorney, Mister Ferrer,
- 6:10Speaker 1: asking him to personally investigate what happened during the Epstein
- 6:13Speaker 1: prosecution and how the victims were treated during that investigation
- 6:17Speaker 1: based on the privileged log that has been provided as
- 6:20Speaker 1: well as subsequent correspondence sent to Professor Cassell, That request
- 6:24Speaker 1: for investigation was turned over to OPR in Washington. The
- 6:28Speaker 1: ultimate outcome of the OPR investigation is unclear. What is
- 6:32Speaker 1: clear is that many documents are being withheld about that investigation,
- 6:36Speaker 1: documents that would go to the central issue in the case.
- 6:39Speaker 1: Approximately three hoole pages of privileged log, Pages twelve through
- 6:44Speaker 1: fourteen of the supplemental log relate to the OPR investigation
- 6:48Speaker 1: of how the Epstein case was handled and how the
- 6:50Speaker 1: victims were treated. A deliberative process privilege can only be
- 6:55Speaker 1: asserted with regard to the process of reaching a decision,
- 6:59Speaker 1: not the ultimate disay decision itself. The government here has
- 7:02Speaker 1: apparently asserted a deliberative process claim over not only the
- 7:06Speaker 1: OPR process, but also over the OPR decision. It's not
- 7:11Speaker 1: clear which document embodies the final OPR decision, or, given
- 7:14Speaker 1: the inadequacies of the government's log, whether that final decision
- 7:18Speaker 1: has been produced. Given the limited description of the document
- 7:22Speaker 1: that have been provided, it appears that the OPR decision
- 7:25Speaker 1: may be reflected in a document found on page thirteen
- 7:29Speaker 1: of the supplemental log. The description there reads draft letter
- 7:34Speaker 1: marked confidential to be opened by addresses only Robin c
- 7:38Speaker 1: Ashton to a Fredo Ferrar, with a handwritten correction. No
- 7:43Speaker 1: dates provided regarding the letter, nor is there any indication
- 7:46Speaker 1: as to whether the letter was or was not circulated
- 7:49Speaker 1: to other persons. It is also noteworthy that this letter
- 7:52Speaker 1: is described as a draft letter. Nowhere in the privileged
- 7:55Speaker 1: log is the final version of that letter indicated, raising
- 7:58Speaker 1: questions about what was draft and what was final. If
- 8:02Speaker 1: this is the final embodiment of the opr's conclusions, then
- 8:05Speaker 1: this letter would not be protected by process of privilege
- 8:08Speaker 1: because the deliberations would have come to an end. It's
- 8:12Speaker 1: also worth noting that because OPR is an agency that
- 8:15Speaker 1: investigates misconduct by federal prosecutors, it would not be providing
- 8:20Speaker 1: attorney client advice to prosecutors, and its documents would not
- 8:24Speaker 1: be attorney client privileged with regard to, for example, the
- 8:27Speaker 1: US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Florida. The
- 8:31Speaker 1: fact that OPR has investigated many of the exact claims
- 8:34Speaker 1: raised by Jane do one and two and were able
- 8:36Speaker 1: to gather documents unobstructed by the government in order to
- 8:40Speaker 1: reach its conclusion likely means that production of the OPR
- 8:43Speaker 1: file to the victims in this case could significantly shortcut
- 8:47Speaker 1: this discovery process and the litigation. Additionally, if OPR needed
- 8:52Speaker 1: the documents to investigate and make findings regarding the victim's claims,
- 8:56Speaker 1: then logically the victims share that need and have no
- 8:59Speaker 1: other mis means through which to obtain the documents. The
- 9:03Speaker 1: government has not explained any harm that would come from
- 9:06Speaker 1: releasing the documents covered by the process of privilege to
- 9:09Speaker 1: the victims. If the government raises any such harm, I
- 9:13Speaker 1: respectfully request an opportunity to provide additional information on that
- 9:17Speaker 1: alleged harm. Investigative privilege. The investigative privilege is a qualified
- 9:23Speaker 1: privilege which balances the need of a particular litigate for
- 9:26Speaker 1: access to information against any public interest in non disclosure.
- 9:31Speaker 1: That balancing process is ordinarily made with reference to factors
- 9:34Speaker 1: discussed and Frankhauser vers Rizzo on the facts of this
- 9:39Speaker 1: case favor way in favor of disclosing the information the
- 9:43Speaker 1: victims have requested. With regard to factor one, the extent
- 9:47Speaker 1: to which disclosure will thwart governmental process by discouraging citizens
- 9:51Speaker 1: from giving the government information I presented for victims of
- 9:55Speaker 1: Epstein's sex offenses in federal court Change No. Number one,
- 9:58Speaker 1: Change No. Number two, and a victim I will refer
- 10:01Speaker 1: to as SR and MJ and other victims of Jeffrey
- 10:06Speaker 1: Epstein's abuse as well. If further information is disclosed about
- 10:10Speaker 1: the case, that will not discourage them from providing information,
- 10:14Speaker 1: but rather will encourage them. I have also talked personally
- 10:18Speaker 1: the attorneys for a number of other victims in the case.
- 10:21Speaker 1: I have been told that many of these victims hope
- 10:23Speaker 1: that Jang Do one and Jane Do two are successful
- 10:26Speaker 1: in their case. With regard to factor number two, the
- 10:30Speaker 1: impact upon persons who have given information of having their
- 10:33Speaker 1: identities disclosed. Jang Do one and Jane Do two are
- 10:36Speaker 1: not asking for information that would identify any particular victim accordingly,
- 10:41Speaker 1: there will be no effect on other victims. Additionally, I'm
- 10:44Speaker 1: aware of the true names of many of Epstein's victims,
- 10:47Speaker 1: and that information has not been disseminated to the public
- 10:50Speaker 1: where those individual victims did not wish for their identities
- 10:54Speaker 1: to be disseminated. All right, we're going to wrap up
- 10:57Speaker 1: this episode right here, and in the next episode dealing
- 10:59Speaker 1: with the topic, we're gonna pick up where we left off.
- 11:02Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode can
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