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Jerm Warfare — Simon Goddek on the Christian Drosten PCR scam · UK Column Radio

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How long has it been? Two years.
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Less, I think a year and something.
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You were still working for TNT? Yeah.
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But that ended in I think 2024, early early 2024.
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So it's been almost two years, yeah.
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What's been happening? Oh you, you became a dad.
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I. Became a dad?
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Yes, I became a dad. And you, I think that's no, not
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yet, but soon. No, but what else has been
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happening? Oh, I know, not a lot.
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I mean, like what's been happening.
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I like on my personal, on personal scale, I don't know.
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I've, I've been, I've been renovating my house, I'm
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building a chicken coop, you know, so doing permaculture,
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literally improving the infrastructure where I live
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because there is no infrastructure.
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Do you live in one of the most beautiful places that I've seen?
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I mean, you are like you're on the edge of the jungle.
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I'm yeah, literally in the jungle on top of a mountain with
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views of like 50 kilometers. So it's, it's really beautiful.
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But there is some infrastructure, as I said.
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So we, we struggled with our off grid system.
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I mean, it worked, but we didn't have to have sufficient
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batteries, sufficient solar power, idle power.
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So now I improve the system and so build a chicken coop now and
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within the chicken coop, actually I built in another unit
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just for my just for my batteries for my inverters.
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So now I have approximately 60 kilowatt hours of batteries,
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which is, which is more than enough to, you know, to make it
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so I will never have any power outridges.
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And it's been on my on my list because they're like digging in
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cables. You can't imagine the amount of
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work of digging in cables of like 50 or 100 meters at a
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specific depth and installing solar panels and the whole
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electricity system. It was like a huge lots of work.
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Like literally, I was working on this for a year now and that's
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yeah, that that kept me busy. Are you still driving that very
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unfortunate VW? Yeah, yeah, I'm still driving
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it, but keeps on breaking somehow because like, it's like
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50 years old and yeah, but it gets up the mountain.
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So yes, that was driving it. And, you know, the pedal that
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you need to accelerate broke. So I was like, no fucking way it
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broke. I don't know, just broke.
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It's still working. But you know, you know, if you
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have to dig deep, you know, with your foot.
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But yeah, that's the next thing I have to repair.
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Dude, I'm poking fun at you, but I'm sitting without a car.
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My car's at the mechanic. Yeah, here we go.
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I'm going to miss yourself. I've got to miss.
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No, because it's a Mercedes. It's ridiculous.
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I've got no idea what's going on under the hood.
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I will say this, I'm never going to buy a Merc again.
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Ever, ever, ever. Game over.
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What? Happened to your?
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What happened to your Ford Ranger?
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I've never. Had a Ford Ranger.
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I had a Ford but it wasn't a Ranger.
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That was years ago. You told me to buy a Ford
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Ranger. He's like, it's the best car
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ever. You need to buy a Ford Ranger.
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Raptor. Ford.
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Raptor. Oh Raptor.
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But isn't it Raptor Ranger isn't Ford Ranger Raptor.
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It's a Ford Ranger Raptor. Ford Ranger Raptor.
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What a That's a very clumsy title, but OK, If it's called
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that, then that's what it is. But a Ford Raptor is an
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absolutely. Beautiful yes, a Ford Ranger
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Raptor so. The Raptor Ranger Raptor.
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OK yes I still recommend it. I didn't have the a Ranger.
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I made a big mistake by going down the Merck road.
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I'll never do it again. It was a complete and utter
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disaster. So I don't recommend Mercedes to
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anybody ever. Going to sell the vehicle.
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And maybe I'll go forward again. I don't know Chinese.
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I'm very, very interested in Chinese vehicles now.
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True. Now in Brazil many people have
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Chinese vehicles. Byd they they now have a truck
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electric truck. Yeah, so it's one of the fastest
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in the world. Yeah, but cost of cost of
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fortune still. Yeah, and GWM is very good too.
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Yeah, yeah, it's also very interesting.
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So I'm like, I'm like driving my Ford Maverick, which is
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literally like a baby Ranger. I think it's like 10 centimeters
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lower. I think that's the main
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difference. But it has more horse powers.
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So it's it's very strong. Gets up the mountain, you know,
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and I'm having my, my folks like Beetle that I'm using here in
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the jungle to the groceries because it's just fun to it's
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just fun to drive. Beto is a great, great car.
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What? What year is it 72?
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Oh, that is one of the best years.
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Yeah. It's got the big, it's got the
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big lights at the back. Yes exactly these.
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I'm so jealous I pimped it. I made it was a 1300 that put
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other cylinders and now it's one 1600.
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So it's super strong. It gets everywhere.
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Even if it's raining muddy, it gets everywhere.
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So it's I put on military car tires.
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If you know them, it gets to the mud.
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So yeah, it's it's, it's a great car.
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So it's not electric. It's just like everything
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mechanic and it gets everywhere. So I love, I love driving it.
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It's, it's, you know, it's, it's literally like roller using a
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roller coaster, sitting on a roller coaster because you feel
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every stone that's underneath you.
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It's it's wild but I I enjoy it. What I love about it also is
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that it's still, it's still ICE, you know, internal combustion
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that really annoys the, the, the, the greenies.
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Yeah, yeah, they, they hate it. Lots of noise.
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The first gear is like, you know, you know the sound, right,
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Yes, yeah, it's yeah, it's great.
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I mean like if the shit it's the fan and some point like all the
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electric cars don't work anymore or you know, I can get around
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and it's quite cheap to be fair. So I use it's one liter of gas
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line for 12 kilometers in the jungle, right, not on the normal
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Rd. in the jungle. So if I go up and downhill, so
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it's it doesn't use a lot. The Maverick uses like double
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and of course it's bigger. Simon, this is the first time
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that you are joining me on my UK column show.
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So for those who who don't really know your your
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background, let's quickly go back to 2019.
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What were you doing? In 2019, I was just like working
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like everybody. Everybody who is now speaking
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outdoor, being a voice of reason, has been working.
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So in 2019, I've been I think I no.
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No, no. My question is not, not, not.
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What have you been doing since 2019?
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What were you doing in 20? 19 You are a.
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Scientist. Yeah, you are a.
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Scientist, I'm I'm just thinking I, I think it had been postdoc.
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I was starting my postdoc in 2019 as a scientist, right?
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So I was I was working on system dynamics, understanding complex
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systems to eventually grow food on Mars.
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So I was working on that on on system dynamics models, on
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causal loop relationships regarding the metabolism,
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regarding agriculture, advanced agriculture systems.
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So yeah, also I was working on bioreactors, on gut microbiome.
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So I cover many fields because it's like multidisciplinary,
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right? If you want to want to grow food
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somewhere else on another planet, you need to understand
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many, many disciplines. So, yeah, So I was, I was just a
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scientist doing, you know, doing my job like the 9 till 9 till
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five, job 9 till 4 as a scientist, you know, was working
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in the office for two or three days per week, was working at
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home the rest. It's like what they do in the
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Netherlands already for many years.
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And it was just like, you know, living my life like everybody
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was in 2019, like everybody was asleep, half asleep.
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I was half asleep. To be fair.
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It was just like living my life. I was, I was red pilled on many
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topics, but I was like, OK, that's, that's, you know, part
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of the story. But I was like, I was just
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living my life. And then 2020 happened.
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I was still living my life in 2020, to be fair.
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So I got a Twitter account on February 2020 because they were
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saying, oh, there's this Chinese virus.
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And I was like, I was like, skeptic, right?
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But when I want to get the news and I literally woke up on 20th
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of March 2020 when they when they announced the global
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pandemic and they said like everybody should stay inside
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because at that time I was working on actively working on
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publishing vitamin D papers. So I was like, OK, you know,
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staying inside and viral infection, you know, or being
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infected with a pathogen and not being exposed to sunlight.
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This doesn't make any sense. So I was like the first thing I
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was doing literally in April, I was like writing another vitamin
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D paper on the importance of taking vitamin K2IN conjunction
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with vitamin D. Just like to tell people like
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this important. I was telling people, OK, you
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don't have to worry about a lot if your vitamin D levels are up.
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Don't be afraid of the sniffles. And unfortunately, people
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shouldn't have read the paper at the paper.
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And that's when it started like the the nasty attacks that I
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never expected, right? So I never expected any, any
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attacks from other scientists based on a, a triple period
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paper. So.
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But that happened eventually. I remember speaking to you.
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I can't remember even how we got in contact with each other, but
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I remember speaking to you. Oh, what does a 2022?
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No earlier. I don't know.
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Somewhere around there you started going through quite a
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rough time with with the company you you're working for.
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Remember you were travelling to Europe and back to Brazil.
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And was it Norway? I can't even.
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It was. Norway.
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Yeah, it was the Research Institute, yes.
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And so I lost my. Job in the Netherlands and then
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I got a new job in Norway and they they also kicked me out.
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It was beginning of 2022 when I got my ex account back.
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That's right. And then you said something
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online that they didn't like. Well, they didn't tell me what
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they didn't like. I mean, like they gave a hint.
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So I asked COVID people whether they're corrupt.
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I asked them right? And X was like, hey, are you
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corrupt? So I took their tweets and
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showed the tweets to the general public was like, look, look at
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this tweet. This is like, this doesn't make
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sense. Are you corrupt?
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So based on that, they obviously tired me.
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It was just which is which is wild and the lawsuits until now
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and I won the main lawsuit. So I won.
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I won this part or like the main part is like 90% of this of the
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lawsuit. There was another one that they
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stole my document, which they did, but how do you how to
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approve that they stole electronic documents?
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So but the main part I won and they still made me pay all the
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costs for giving a shitstorm to the company.
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They say like, oh, you have so many followers.
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This was like, you know, I'm proportional and you pay all the
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costs. So they may be pay all the
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lawyer costs. The other part was around $1000
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or something. And I mean, like, imagine you
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win a case and they said like, OK, we're going to punish you
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anyways. Like doesn't make any sense.
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Now it's at the Supreme Court, but you know, it's a, it's a
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recent institute which is like publicly funded.
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So literally suit the government and the government who pays The
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Who, who pays the judges, right? So it's like a difficult case.
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And also my lawyer didn't help a lot.
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She, she missed 2 deadlines and it's like, oh, I missed the
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deadline. So like what?
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Because like the whole, you know, my wife's a lawyer.
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So she, so she helped with the lawsuit and she was always
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sending her old update stuff and like, hey, don't forget the
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deadline, forget that she got lost and she forgot the deadline
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twice. So we think like, this is like
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weird, This is super weird. Why would a lawyer, you know,
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miss the deadline again, like in such an important case?
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Because I would have won that one for sure.
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And anyways, yeah, it's, it's a very, very weird situation.
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We are still trying to make sense of it.
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Or you can win a lawsuit and still they make you pay such an
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high amount of money. I mean, like they got the best.
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I mean, like they could just have paid me.
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They just said like, oh, sorry, yeah, we, we, we just missed
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you. And like you're take three
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months of celery, etcetera. But they know they didn't,
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instead of paying me like $10,000 or something, they
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preferred paying more than $100,000 to lawyers in the case.
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They, they wouldn't have any chance.
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So it's a weird, it's like, and also Elon Musk promised to
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support me. So, you know, because it was, he
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made this, he made this tweet. So everybody got fired because
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of being on X. I'm going, we're going to, we're
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going to support your lawsuit. So we were in contact with X,
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right? A lot.
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So with the lawyer from X with pronouns on her profile.
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So in an e-mail footer. So like weird, she, her like,
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and they, they said like, yeah, we're going to support you
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totally. Your case is totally in.
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And since then they ghosted me, like totally ghosted.
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There is no reply, nowhere. So it's yeah, it's super weird.
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It's super weird. And we're still trying to make
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sense of it. And they're, I think it's
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impossible to make sense of it, but it's, it's a weird
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situation, right? But I mean, what can we do
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eventually if, if the Supreme Court is going to say like, hey,
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we're not going to accept your, you know, you missed a deadline
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or you missed 2 deadlines. It's not, you know, we need to,
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I need to sue my own lawyer and it sucks.
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It's like, it's like, what can I do right when $1000 is a lot?
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I don't, I didn't even earn this in a couple of years.
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So for something I won, you know, in America, I would be a
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multimillionaire for what happened to me multimillionaire.
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And but in socialist Norway it's a bit more difficult, obviously.
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Can you remember some of the stuff that you were saying?
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Beginning of 2022. Like like for example, if you
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were to try and figure out what it was that got you fired, what
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kind of content were you? Were you tweeting?
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So beginning of 2022 I was self censoring myself a lot.
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Literally I had no tweet that was like what I'm saying
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nowadays. It was very self censored.
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So the hardest, the harshest stuff.
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I was asking David Fisman, if you know David Fisman, he's
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like, he's like some some idiot from from Canada who was saying
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like, we need, we need vaccine passports, we need forced
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vaccination. And I was taking his tweets and
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I was asking like, look, looking back at everything you said in
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2021, are you corrupt? So this is the harshest thing I
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said. And they even accused me of
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accusing others of corruption. But the question is an
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accusation. So I think it's that.
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And my former boss, he was, he was calling me privately and he
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was like, he's totally on my side.
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But they get complaints, incoming complaints, literally
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HR gets incoming complaints every day, hundreds.
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So there must have been some campaign against me.
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So, you know, when, when I got my my ex account back, it was
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beginning of 2022. Many people were still like, oh,
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this deadly pandemic. And now Elon Musk is letting was
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it was 2023. I'm sorry, was beginning of
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2023, not 2022. Anyway, they were saying like,
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OK, he's letting all these people back.
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You know, how is this possible? And you know, and my, my, my
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colleagues or other scientists and, and, and doctors and
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activists who got back as well, they also faced a similar smear
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campaign. And so I told him, like, look, I
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have a significant account on, on XI think it was like 100,000
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beginning of January. And people don't like what I
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say, but it's like my private opinion.
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And they're like, no, we support you 100%.
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We support you 100%. And then at at some point he
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asked for my private calculations, which I was, which
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I made from a company in the course of ten years.
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OK, can you, can you send me this Excel file?
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Won't understand what you're doing.
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You're doing great stuff. And then he I was like, oh, of
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course, because I wasn't, he was, he was always supporting me
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privately was like, oh, they can do whatever they want.
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We keep you. And I sent him a file on the
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next morning and fired me. So he was stealing my file.
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But I mean, like to prove it, to prove that he's still an
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electronic file is very difficult.
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So I didn't manage to do this. I mean, like I sent them
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everything with a Dropbox changes that this document
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exists before. But I mean, like the court
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didn't understand it or they didn't want to understand it.
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But anyway, that's what they did.
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And then I made a tweet about this, right?
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It was like, because they sent me an e-mail, they said like
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they fired me for exceeding my, my write of free speech.
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So how can you exceed your right of first?
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I mean, I guess very, very difficult to exceed your right
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of freedom of expression, right? But that's what they wrote.
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That's the first letter. And then they, they kind of
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fired this lawyer, I think, who wrote this letter because it was
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like so ridiculous, because we, we were able to use this against
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them, right? Because they later said like,
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no, he missed a meeting. He missed a meeting.
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So this was like their, their, their thing afterwards.
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Like is there anything in a written form that he missed a
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meeting? No, no, no, no, no.
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We didn't inform him. I was like, which meeting?
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They couldn't even tell me. So they tried to make up stuff.
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It was like it was so surreal. This, this whole our procedure
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was super surreal. They tried to first they, they
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put the lawyers on there and they said like, oh, he cannot
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sue us. He's living in Brazil now.
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And it went up to Supreme Court and the Supreme were said, of
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course they can sue you from Brazil.
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So they tried everything. And then they said like, oh, we
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don't even know where he lives. So how can we, if we win, how
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can we execute it? And then I had to show the the
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court that actually my boss visited me here in the jungle so
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he knows where I live. And it's like they continued
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doing this for two years until like my lawyer missed the
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deadlines. And like, this is so weird.
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Why, why? How can you miss a deadline like
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this, especially if you're working on this every single day
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and reminding her of the deadline.
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So it's it's like, I don't want to say sabotage, but it's like I
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have a, my gut feeling says so, but I don't know.
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I don't have proof because actually I think my lawyer is a
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great person, right? We get along very well.
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But this is weird or shit, a personal, I have no clue.
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But this is super weird. Yeah.
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Anyway, it's it just sees where we're at, right.
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And it doesn't matter if the topic is COVID, if the topic is
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Israel, you always have these powerful people on top who are
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going to silence everybody who's saying who's who's like, you
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know, who's telling their opinion.
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So. But that is exactly true what
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you're saying. You know, there's always
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somebody high up and more powerful.
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It's just a pity, though, that you a scientist, which by it, by
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its very nature makes you a critical thinker, or at least it
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should. And here you're being told not
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to think critically and to accept the conventional or the
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established thought. But that's, that's quite usual
25:20
in the field of science. So in the course of being a
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master's student, PhD student, postdoc, twice postdoc, to be
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fair, it's like they're always try to control it.
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They'll always tell you what to say, what not to say.
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So especially during my PhD and, and, and postdoc, it was climate
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change. And I was, I was critical
25:44
towards climate change for I don't know how many years, 10
25:46
years, 20 years for always since I understood that CO2 doesn't
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drive any of that. But I wasn't outspoken, right?
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Because I mean, like I, I probably had some, some social
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media. I had my Instagram with like 10
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followers. I don't know.
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So I wasn't a social media person and I wasn't too much
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into public. So I, I hold public speeches on
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my, on my, on my topic. And I was like the top scientist
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on in my field, right? The top scientist, but still, I
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mean, like when, when all my colleagues said you can't
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criticize climate change, I wouldn't go there, you know, and
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be a rebel and, and, and talk to the 10 people I know.
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It's like, oh, climate change is not real because I didn't have
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any audience. So there was there was no point
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to to be rebellious. Of course, when I wrote
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scientific papers, I put it in a different way.
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So I formulated it and said like, oh, these, these climate
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change models, you have to take it with a grain of salt, you
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know, and, and I, I tried to put it in a way that my colleagues
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would accept it and that you can actually read between the lines
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and say like, OK, he doesn't really probably there's
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likelihood that he doesn't believe that stuff.
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So this is, this is what I did. But whenever I question things,
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for example, I had a, my, my PG promoter, he was in the club of
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Rome and you know, the club of Rome, you know, the sack,
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they're, they're crazy. And he, we had this modeling
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class and he was only modeling global warming or climate change
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based on CO2. And I was asking questions and
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he was telling me this sentence, this sentence, you shouldn't ask
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questions. The, the science is settled.
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And I heard the sentence again during COVID.
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And I was like, this sentence was kept was, was in my head.
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So it's like the, that the club of Rome was orchestrating the
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sentence. I don't know.
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He told me the science is settled and he got super mad at
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me super mad for for asking questions and it was like plants
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like CO2 and he's like getting super mad.
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And I was like, wow, this is this is wild.
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And then later, I mean there was at the University of Iceland.
27:53
Then like to the University of wagon in the Netherlands also
27:55
wrote a paper on here we go. It was like modeling Namibia,
28:00
right, like some some high tech system in Namibia and also used
28:06
I had to use climate data. I use IPCC data and at the
28:10
university where I, where is my postdoc, there was this
28:14
professor and he was one of the IPCC panelists, one of one of
28:19
the leading scientists in IPCC. And he always told me you cannot
28:24
question climate change. It's really, it's a fact, blah,
28:27
blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's, you know, I was, I was
28:30
a bit intimidated. That was OK, cool.
28:33
I'm not, I'm not a scientist and climate change directly.
28:36
So I mean, like, they, they can, they can, they can say whatever
28:39
they want to, you know, I just ignore this topic.
28:41
But you know, whenever I open my mouth, it got like people got
28:45
mad and you get into trouble. So they're being a free thinker
28:49
is not really encouraged. So as a scientist seem to, you
28:52
need to be submissive, otherwise you don't make career, you don't
28:56
make it to the top. And the, the next issue is
28:58
literally, if you're, if you're a professor, you know, you, you
29:01
if you, if you're a professor at the university, you know, this
29:03
guy has been submitted. He has not been a critical
29:05
thinker. So literally everybody who makes
29:07
to the top and who's teaching your children is one of these
29:11
submitted submissive people. So this is how, how the, how the
29:15
whole scientific system as is set up.
29:17
So you don't learn how to think critically anymore.
29:21
I kind of came to the conclusion during COVID that the people who
29:27
you should put more trust in are not the scientists, are not the
29:33
ones who have skill sets within particular fields, it's the ones
29:37
who are outside of those fields. Yeah, it's, it's like, it's like
29:41
a cult, the cultists. So they're manipulated, let's
29:47
say not, let's not say manipulated.
29:50
There was a huge influence probably of other scientists on
29:53
them, you know, during their studies.
29:54
So they learned what they were told was the truth.
29:58
Just like in the Middle Ages, people were like, OK, the earth
30:00
is flat, you know, and there's this, there's this guy above and
30:03
then the hell below. And everybody believed it,
30:05
unless the. Earth is the Earth is round.
30:09
Exactly. And they would execute you for
30:11
that. So I think it's the same for
30:14
virology. And I think there are, there are
30:16
pathogens. I mean, like, but the question
30:20
is, you know, I told you my, my dog died of cinemosies and he
30:24
got the vaccine, by the way, because it's, it's, you know,
30:27
and we got it, got the vaccine. It's like.
30:29
I remember you messaged me a few weeks ago.
30:32
Yeah, and he died within five days.
30:33
He was super, super. He was super healthy.
30:36
And then at some point he just died within days.
30:39
And this is like, it's a virus. And my wife now is like, oh, we
30:42
need to vaccinate everything. It would have proved I was like,
30:44
he got the vaccine. Oh, he didn't get the second
30:46
dose. I'm like, come on, please.
30:49
No, no. And yeah, but the question is
30:52
still what's causing this, right?
30:55
So of course, she tested our other two dogs, and one also got
30:59
synomosis, at least antibodies, and didn't get sick, though.
31:05
And the other one didn't have anything.
31:07
She's like, look, look, he transmitted this.
31:09
And I'm like, OK, I don't believe in all this, but I mean,
31:13
there's something that's causing the disease and the root cause.
31:16
I think that's the important thing to discover, right?
31:19
I don't know what the root cause.
31:20
Maybe there are viruses, maybe you know, maybe they're not.
31:22
Maybe there are other pathogens that 'cause this phenomenon, but
31:26
it's not very clear. Even virologists cannot make all
31:29
of it. They cannot explain to you why,
31:32
for example, the transmission of viruses works in some cases and,
31:36
and in most of the cases it doesn't.
31:37
So there are studies like to transmit a flu and it just, it
31:41
just like, you know, insignificant.
31:44
So how does all of this work? And they cannot tell us.
31:47
They cannot give us a, an, a clear answer.
31:50
So to me, there are many questions and doesn't mean that
31:52
there's like a viruses don't exist, but I'm very cautious
31:56
here. I mean, we know that bacteria
31:58
exists and they're they're all very well studied and there is
32:02
very strong empirical evidence. But on viruses, is it maybe like
32:06
a waste product or is the cause as the effect?
32:09
And, and there are many questions that even viral just
32:12
cannot, cannot, cannot answer. So I'm very cautious here.
32:17
But still the fact that people are like, you know, people with
32:21
dogs, I die with the synomosis. There is something, you know,
32:24
and I would like to understand what it is.
32:26
If it's a virus, OK, fair enough.
32:28
But why can't we do anything against it?
32:30
It's the. Same with Povo.
32:32
Yeah, yeah, it's the same with Povo.
32:33
I mean, nobody really knows what causes it, but it always happens
32:36
to puppies and and it tends, it tends to be within unvaccinated
32:45
puppies. Now, I'm not in any way
32:47
suggesting anything positive about vaccines, and I'm not
32:51
suggesting that it's caused by viruses, but it does seem to
32:54
appear that way. No, I tried to find them.
32:58
I tried to find them to understand and there was, there
33:00
was actually no data available. There was no data available.
33:04
And so of course, what can I say?
33:06
I mean, like the next dog, we get it whenever, you know, maybe
33:09
we're going to get another Dalmatian.
33:12
My wife's going to let him double, triple, triple vaccine.
33:14
I don't care. Let's say it's a dog, right?
33:16
I mean, I love dogs, but it's not like my child, you know, so.
33:21
I've actually. I don't care much.
33:22
Yeah, So I've asked this pover question to number of no virus
33:26
folks like the Baileys and Tom Cowan and many others and not
33:30
one of them is able to answer. I've looked online, it is it's
33:35
it's impossible to find any daughter.
33:37
Yeah, we found in our dog. Of course we did.
33:39
We did all the, from all the tests and he had like he had a
33:45
dysbiosis, he had really awful bacteria in his gut.
33:50
So this could have been the reason or maybe maybe the root
33:52
'cause you know, maybe it's root cause that cause like, you know,
33:56
cascade of other, other issues. And he didn't only have Symos,
34:01
he had like two or three diseases and he was like 1 year
34:03
old, super healthy. But I mean, like there must have
34:05
been a root cause. I think the same accounts for
34:07
us. So people can of course focus
34:09
like during COVID. It's like, oh, he died of COVID.
34:11
But if you check the the actual cause of death, it was hardly
34:15
ever COVID, right? Maybe 1% and at the sniffles.
34:18
And so most of most people die because of other, other root
34:23
causes. And I think, you know, medicine
34:26
has to go that way to see like a what is causing this?
34:28
You know, what are you eating? Are you exposed to mold?
34:32
How much, you know, how much do you sleep?
34:34
What's it, what are your cultural levels?
34:36
You know, are you, what do your hormones and hormones look like?
34:39
So there's, there are so many factors that actually determine
34:43
whether you're healthy or not. And then, and then these people
34:46
say like, oh, let's, let's look at some alleged virus.
34:48
You know, we didn't isolate yet. It's from China.
34:50
You know, there are so many variants, but like, this is this
34:53
is causing everything. And meanwhile, you know, I don't
34:57
know how many, how many millions or 10s of millions of people
35:00
have been driven to alcoholism because of because of their
35:04
pandemic. And that killed way more than
35:06
this alleged virus. And they never talk about that
35:10
in the Netherlands. This is like, oh, you should,
35:11
you should order food. You shouldn't, you shouldn't go
35:13
to the supermarket, you should order food.
35:15
And you know, and ordering food is literally pizza, burgers,
35:18
etcetera. Like I like I'm high in Omega 6
35:21
fatty acids that are inflammatory.
35:23
So that actually make you sick that that that actually are root
35:27
cause of many Western diseases. And that's what they told us
35:30
like don't go to the gym, don't work out, you know, don't go to
35:32
the sun, like eat, eat, eat junk food, right?
35:39
And you know, and get. A shot in the arm.
35:42
Sick and get a shot in the arm? Yes, in order to prevent a
35:45
disease. I've just remembered how we got
35:50
in contact. You were some random dude on the
35:54
Internet calling out Drosten for his PCR protocol.
36:00
Remember that? That's how that's how we got in
36:02
contact. Yeah, I I was this random dude
36:04
with 10 followers. Yes.
36:06
Yeah, but you were the only person in the world who had this
36:10
particular information, or at least nobody else was
36:14
publicizing it. On the, not on the paper itself.
36:17
So there has been a whole consortium of like 10 scientists
36:19
who were looking into the, into the paper and, you know, people
36:24
who are, who are geneticists, etcetera.
36:27
But I'm not, you know, I looked into the period process because
36:31
I'm one of the few people who was an editor of a Springer
36:34
Nature journal and who knew the whole period process of a
36:38
scientific paper. And I was showing the whole
36:40
process because I had access to the back end.
36:42
So I was taking screenshots. This is how it how it works.
36:44
How many editors in the world could speak out against this
36:47
stuff? They're just like a handful.
36:49
Like they're not many, right? Maybe I know how many editors
36:52
existed on this platform and maybe 2 or 300, I don't know.
36:55
So it's very low number. So I spoke out and it was I was
36:59
analyzing at first, the analysis took like a week of deep
37:03
research. And then I was taking of course
37:05
screenshots from the back end explaining how pure process
37:08
works. And then I was able to show that
37:10
he committed fraud. And you know, my, my thread or
37:15
my, my, my post wasn't, wasn't attacking.
37:18
It was like very rational because it was, OK, I'm a
37:21
scientist. I need to be factual, right?
37:22
And I wasn't even accusing people of corruption, etcetera.
37:25
I was just like putting the information out there.
37:27
And yeah, I think this is this is how how we met.
37:31
This is How I Met most of the people, to be fair.
37:34
So just quickly give me the summary of what happened with
37:36
Justin. I can tell you what he did in
37:38
general and the little part he was exposed, I was exposing.
37:42
So he knew about COVID way before the first case in China
37:48
appeared, which is weird. We have the evidence.
37:51
So he was working on the PCR test, like in creating the PCR
37:55
test for COVID most likely since beginning of December 2019,
38:01
which is weird because the first Chinese case was when around the
38:03
20th of December. We know this because there is a
38:07
lab in Slovenia who published about the PCR test in the very
38:13
beginning of January, I think the first or second or third of
38:15
January. And they said that they received
38:19
the tests before Christmas and they have been extensively
38:23
before Christmas extensively testing it.
38:26
And I was like, how can you extensively test something if
38:31
you receive a test before the first case appeared?
38:36
So this was like super odd. It didn't make any sense and and
38:39
Drawston was on it, right. And then Drawston said in the
38:42
beginning of January, even like though masks don't work, you
38:46
cannot PCR test don't work, you cannot test people.
38:48
It doesn't, you know, it doesn't show if someone is infected or
38:51
not. And suddenly in, in in March, he
38:54
said the opposite for everything he said before.
38:56
And in February, he published this PCR protocol paper.
39:04
But he didn't he submit it to The Who and they published it
39:08
within like 24 hours. No, he submitted to his own
39:12
journal. There is a, there is a journal,
39:14
it's called Your Servians and Christian Drosten is on its
39:19
editorial board. So he's admitted this paper to
39:23
his literally own journal and publish it within 24 hours, less
39:28
than 24 hours. OK, right, there we go.
39:31
So, and we asked for the preview reports, right?
39:36
So every previewer has to make a report.
39:38
It's anonymous. And it's like we can't do it
39:40
because it would violate, you know, the them being anonymous.
39:47
So it didn't make any sense. They didn't want to show any
39:49
report and they were hiding everything.
39:51
And they were and the co-author, Marlene Copeland's, the state
39:56
virologist from the Netherlands. So Drosten is the was the was
39:59
the state virologist from Germany and Marlene Copeland's
40:01
from the Netherlands, Right. She was on The Who committee
40:07
that made this PCR. Protocol gold standard that one
40:11
day after this publication are published so they they rushed
40:15
the publication that there was up here reposes.
40:16
There was none. It's impossible.
40:18
They just like published it and like to make it gold standard
40:22
the next day and and Kristen Rustin's friend or fat land.
40:26
He probably made millions, 10s of millions with with this test
40:31
because he was the one producing it and it's his personal friend.
40:36
Super odd. I want to know how much money he
40:40
received etcetera. But I mean, like, they're,
40:41
they're still like German Congress.
40:45
I mean, there's, it's not Congress, but you know, they're,
40:47
they're still these in Germans cult into songs, all shows.
40:52
So they're, they're asking people about the pandemic, for
40:54
example, they invite him and, and people from the parliament.
40:57
They can, you know, they can, they can ask him like questions
41:01
about, about, about COVID and his role.
41:05
And he's, he's still defending stuff and he's still bending
41:09
reality. So he's lying the whole time.
41:11
He's for example, he said like, oh, we should close all the
41:13
schools. And then he's sitting there.
41:15
It's like, I never said that. I never said that.
41:17
But they're, they're like many audios videos.
41:19
Everything is available and he's sitting there.
41:21
No, I never said that. And he gets away with it and he
41:25
does it on every single topic. On every single topic.
41:28
He still attacks us for, for speaking out against, against
41:32
all, all what happened and nothing is happening to him.
41:34
He should be like in in any work in democracy, he would be in
41:38
jail forever, literally forever, like, you know, lifelong.
41:42
But no, he's walking free. He's walking free.
41:45
He is still getting invited to stuff.
41:47
He's still doing this his job. And he is the person who made
41:52
COVID available or like possible because without, without the PCR
41:58
test, right, that would never have been a pandemic.
42:00
And he, it wasn't only the PCR test he was causing.
42:02
He was also the first doctor. And he's a doctor, right?
42:04
Like, I'm not, I'm not a medical doctor.
42:06
He's in a medical doctor. But he had a he had a patient
42:09
from China, the first patient ever, she was flying to Munich,
42:15
who was, who was kind of who was healthy and had the virus.
42:24
So he was showing, OK, look, there's there's this you can be
42:28
infected without being sick. So he was he was making putting
42:35
this out there as well. So imagine the same person.
42:37
What is the what are the odds that he was creating the piece
42:41
of artist before the pandemic happened?
42:43
And then that you said like, OK, you know, you can transmission
42:47
of a virus is possible of this virus as possible without being,
42:52
you know, without having any symptoms.
42:56
So that's, that's how he justified the tests, right?
43:00
So the whole world got tested because he said like, OK, you
43:04
can be infected and not knowing this and you have to use our PCR
43:09
test. So that's why the world got mass
43:12
tested. And we know it ran on the cycle
43:14
threshold of 45 or something, false positives of more than
43:20
90%. So it was a it was a fake
43:22
pandemic and he gets away with this and that's scary.
43:25
Even Carrie Malice, who invented PCR.
43:28
Warned was warning everybody about this.
43:30
Yeah, Yeah. You warned.
43:33
Josten was against it until January 20, 2020.
43:36
He was against it. It's like you cannot do this.
43:38
It's like it doesn't make any sense.
43:41
But. And then in like, you know, it
43:43
just shows the corruption. But I mean, like, is it a crime?
43:46
What? I mean, like that part.
43:48
I mean like that he says like, oh, I believe this until
43:50
January, but afterwards only more.
43:51
It's unfortunately not a crime. I mean, like it's should be it
43:55
should be a crime because it was gaslighting the general public
44:00
into take into testing into vaccination.
44:05
And like, I think he's the root 'cause I have to say I think
44:09
otherwise you can sue me. I think he's root cause by ten
44:11
10s of millions of dead people. This man a German again.
44:16
Oh, wait, sorry, German again. The other one was Austrian.
44:19
But any anyways, you know, it's, it's again from from there.
44:23
It's scary. You know, there are so many
44:25
reasons why there was no pandemic.
44:28
PCR is one of them. Another is that there's just no
44:31
evidence of this novel disease. It's always.
44:35
Worse asymptomatic transmission would that before asymptomatic
44:38
transmission is another one. So combine all of them and you
44:41
have a fake pandemic and then you then you say then you run a
44:45
media campaign. So you have to, you have to
44:46
imagine, you know, they said like, oh, the virus is out here,
44:48
OK. Everybody was like, OK, all
44:50
right, all right. And we didn't see any excess
44:52
mortality. We saw excess mortality in
44:54
April, May 2020 after they're in this media campaign, after they,
44:59
you know, the fear campaign, you know what, what's fear causing
45:02
in all people? The quarter level gets up.
45:04
It's it becomes chronic and people, all people, all three
45:07
people die. So that's why we saw the spike
45:09
in in April and May 2020. But afterwards it went down.
45:13
Of course, there's also seasonality, et cetera, but
45:15
people were locked inside. So the seasonality didn't, I
45:18
think it didn't have a lot of impact here.
45:20
But still we just saw this one spike of of excess mortality.
45:24
And the second spike came after the vaccination campaign.
45:27
So after they injected everybody, but between the
45:30
initial spike that that killed people because of of the fear
45:33
campaign and the vaccination campaign, there was no excess
45:36
mortality. If there were the dead epidemic,
45:39
you would see a constant excess mortality of like 10, twenty,
45:42
30%. But we saw a -1 worldwide.
45:47
So there wasn't that epidemic, right?
45:50
And just looking at the data shows this and but still this
45:54
man, everybody's talking about Fauci, but Christian Trosten is
45:56
the real villain here. I do remember there was an
46:00
attempt by about what, 20 or so scientists who who published
46:06
that that, well, they attempted to publish that counter review
46:11
paper. Remember that the retraction
46:13
surveillance, yeah, the retraction and it was rejected.
46:19
And almost all of them lost their careers.
46:23
It's, it's, it's, it's crazy. It's that crazy.
46:27
And, and you know, every point they were mentioning in their,
46:31
in their paper was correct. They couldn't contact, they
46:35
couldn't say like it's wrong. So they did.
46:38
Yeah, they did character assassination.
46:41
That's the same they do now with Israel.
46:43
So it's the same, the same playbook.
46:45
You know, if someone says something they don't like, they
46:47
just they just destroy your life And this haven't drunk COVID.
46:53
Yeah, no again. Yeah.
46:54
So you just mentioned Israel. So you've been speaking a bit
46:58
about Zionism lately. And at the beginning of our
47:01
conversation you said that you've had quite a few red pulls
47:04
over the last few years. What are some of those red
47:07
pulls? I don't know if I can say any of
47:10
this or do I get to jail? Do I get to jail in Europe?
47:13
I don't know. But I don't believe anything
47:15
anymore that's put like this. I, you know, I have to tell.
47:19
I've been extremely pro Jewish and extremely pro Israel thought
47:24
my whole life, right. I mean, I, my, my dad was
47:28
repelling me a bit. He was showing me documentaries
47:30
of, of how Israeli settlers were like, you know, destroying
47:36
whales of, of Palestinians. So I was like, OK, these are
47:38
just the settlers. The rest is OK.
47:42
This was my, my view until during my PhD, we, we had a, we
47:48
had, we had like a recess consortium.
47:50
And one of them was like the University of the Negev, like a,
47:53
a Hebrew Israeli university. And, and the researchers of, of
48:00
that university, they were very religious.
48:02
So they were always wearing the little hat and they wouldn't eat
48:07
with us because we would be, we wouldn't be kosher and like
48:11
weird stuff. And then at some point they were
48:12
like justifying killing locals and justifying the settlements.
48:18
And that's when I was like, what the fuck?
48:20
So we were all freaking out. They were like, just talk, just
48:22
just saying publicly, yeah, these are animals that need to
48:24
be killed and stuff like this. And we were like, whoa, this
48:27
when I when I was like kind of waking up.
48:29
So maybe, you know, maybe my, my, my, my view on on Zionists
48:37
wasn't, wasn't that correct? And on Judaism as well, so I'm
48:41
not a friend of Judaism, but I mean, like, they're they're good
48:43
Jews out there, right? That they don't believe every
48:45
word in the Talmud. And I consider the Talmud a
48:48
disgusting book. But anyways, there's still good
48:52
people out there. And I don't want to, I don't
48:54
want to generalize people. But there's after, you know,
48:58
Hamas attack and Hamas attacked Israel, but but the whole story
49:03
is Israel attacked them first Nakba 1948 and also Israel
49:09
finance Hamas just to divide the Palestinians.
49:12
And the third fact is literally Israel knew about the attack
49:14
before because Egypt want them, but Israel let them attack so
49:18
they could eventually commit genocide.
49:21
And there was a there was also an IDF stand down for a few
49:25
hours. Just coincidentally, yeah.
49:27
Just like coincidentally, yeah. It's just like during September
49:29
11th, there was the stand down. It's always coincidentally and.
49:35
And anyways, and you know, I don't like Islamic extremism.
49:40
I don't like Islamism. I think it's, I think it's
49:43
disgusting and it's it, it shouldn't have any place in the
49:47
Western world. I'm against, I'm, I'm in favor
49:50
of sending all extremists back home from Europe, send them back
49:53
to their own original countries. But Zionism is a totally
49:57
different level of evil in, in my opinion.
50:00
And you know, what I had expected is that, you know,
50:04
Jewish voices, like 50% of the Jewish voice would say like,
50:08
hey, or like many Jewish people would say like, OK, this attack
50:10
from us is disgusting, but look, like this is what we're doing to
50:13
them, you know, And, you know, killing 3040 thousand children
50:17
is wrong calling like there's this American congressman, Randy
50:21
Fine, who's who twice said that we should, that they should,
50:24
that the US or Israel should nuke the civilians.
50:28
And I don't like, you know, and hardly any Jew is literally
50:34
speaking out against this, you know, imagine, imagine the
50:38
famous Muslim congressman. I know there, there are some in
50:42
the US at least as saying like, hey, we should nuke all
50:44
Israelis. And they also like, oh, why
50:46
doesn't, why don't Muslims condemn this?
50:49
You know, and I tell you, many Muslims would condemn this.
50:52
But how many Zionist and Jews condemned Randy Fine, maybe 1-2
50:58
Dave Smith. And he's not, he's like, not
51:00
super Jewish, but it's, it's, it's just a few, it's a handful.
51:03
I get, I get PMS from Jewish people.
51:05
It's like, thank you for doing what you're doing right.
51:08
But they don't dare to say publicly.
51:09
So but anyways, it's these these voices, these Jewish voices that
51:15
are available everywhere, right, that are in the White House that
51:20
are like Ben Shapiro, Mark Levine.
51:23
It's really super scary what they've been saying the last two
51:26
years. So they speak and I hear the
51:28
devil speak and what they're saying doesn't make any sense.
51:31
Just like full of hate and Jewish supremacy.
51:34
So I was in the beginning, I was quiet about this conflict
51:38
because I was like, OK, you have like, you know, Hamas that I
51:42
totally dislike. And then you have the Zionist
51:44
that is like, let them, do you know, let them fight, right?
51:50
Keep the civilian out, civilians out of it, you know, get the
51:53
hostages and prisoners of wars out.
51:56
By the way, you know, the Israelis call someone hostage
52:00
who has been kidnapped from a tank.
52:02
You know, it's the, they're the only country in the world that
52:07
manages to call prisoners of war.
52:10
If you kidnap a soldier from a tank, right, an active soldier
52:13
from a tank, it's a prisoner of war.
52:15
And they call them hostages. And you know, and meanwhile
52:19
there are still 1500 Palestinian hostages and the Knesset, I
52:22
think yesterday was trying to pass a law to execute all of
52:25
them. Imagine like this, the other way
52:29
around. They would nuke that place.
52:32
But why can Zionists do whatever they want and they get away with
52:35
this? And if you are critical to anti
52:37
Zionism and you're anti Zionist, they call you a Jew hater.
52:42
I'm like, OK, if this makes me a Jew hater, I'm a, I'm a proud
52:44
Jew hater, right? Because I'm like, if I'm against
52:46
injustice and this makes me a Jew hater or this gives me the
52:48
label, I, I, I proudly wear the label that makes it anti Semite.
52:54
And it makes you a person, a persona non grata.
52:57
So that's what I am. So I mean, like you invite them
52:59
to your show. Nobody else does, believe me.
53:02
So I have another one today. But that's like with a, with a
53:04
Muslim person. So they they they like to talk
53:07
to me to they say irrational, irrational voice who, who sees
53:12
the problem on both sides, which I do.
53:14
But of course I I see the problem on one side much more
53:16
right now because I woke up. But anyways, I'm, I'm not, I'm
53:20
not like pro the other side, right?
53:22
I'm against everything. It's like literally I'm hating
53:25
everything but nobody else would would like talk to me.
53:31
I you know, it's because, you know, people are it's just like
53:34
with American football or soccer or like the real football, by
53:38
the way, don't call it soccer. You know, people choose teams
53:41
when you watch a match, you know, people are like, oh, there
53:43
is like Chelsea on versus Arsenal and both both can suck
53:46
my Dick. I don't care.
53:47
You know, there's a big owner behind it and that owner is like
53:50
literally, you know, using using the sports in order to get you
53:53
know, but anyways, people are cheering.
53:55
They're like, oh, I'm for Arsenal, I'm for Chelsea.
53:57
And you could ask a whole room of what are people?
53:59
And maybe one or two say like, I don't care.
54:02
And it's the same here as as well.
54:03
It's like they expect you to take sides, but I don't take
54:06
sides, right? I mean, like, I prefer a side
54:09
over the other side after what I observed, right?
54:12
But in the beginning of the conflict, I was like, oh, I
54:13
don't care. Then I see what's happening and
54:16
like, OK, wow, this one side is really fucked up.
54:18
And then I say, this is really fucked up.
54:20
And I see like, look, all the politicians and especially in
54:23
the United States and also in Europe, look, look what they're
54:25
saying. It's disgusting.
54:27
They're justifying, they're justifying genocides like
54:30
nothing's happening there. Israel is the most immoral army
54:33
in the world. You know, and there are videos
54:36
out there of them doing the worst things.
54:38
And then they actually accuse Palestinians.
54:40
Oh, you've, you've like beheaded 12 babies.
54:43
You put them into ovens. There's no single evidence it it
54:45
was a lie. So, you know, if a, if a war
54:49
starts and is based on many lies handball directive, we can start
54:53
there. We can, we can, we can start
54:55
with like the, that the Israeli army was like holding back.
54:58
And you know, we can continue with, with these beheaded babies
55:04
and the burn babies and with the fake pictures of all the blood
55:07
in the keyboard scene that was that was paint.
55:09
So it was all mainly based on lies.
55:12
So why would I trust these people who tend to lie?
55:17
I mean, like, it's not just like they lie there.
55:18
They're lying throughout the last two or three years.
55:21
And that has been a stereotype in Europe in the last hundreds
55:23
of years. And I, you know, I was like,
55:26
what when I was a, you know, a youngster, I was like, why do
55:31
they do this to these people? Why, why did Martin Luther, you
55:35
know, write this book about the Jews and the lies?
55:38
It's like, you know, and then I'm watching what's happening
55:40
right now. It just like lies, lies, lies.
55:43
And then I'm like, OK, maybe they, I mean, like I read the
55:46
book. I was going through the book.
55:47
It was it's in German, right? I can understand.
55:48
I would like, OK, sometimes it's like he was, he was a bit
55:52
hardcore at one point, right? But I mean, like, anyways,
55:55
there's still a the core is still there's just some truth in
56:00
what he was saying. So the question is, why are they
56:03
lying about this? Why can't they be honest about
56:05
this, right? I mean, like they're obviously
56:08
the only democracy in the Middle East.
56:09
They're the most moral army. They're God's chosen people.
56:12
Why did they lie all the time? So this opened my eyes a bit
56:17
and, you know, and then I see yesterday Ben Shapiro talking or
56:21
like, what the fuck, you know, you freak, you freak out.
56:25
Yeah, he's all spat now with Tucker.
56:27
Yeah, they they all are. Laura Loomer, Mark Levine, Ben
56:31
Shapiro, all of them. All of them are anti Tucker.
56:34
All of them. There's the whole American.
56:36
Establishment now is going off to Tucker.
56:39
The Zionist and Jewish establishment.
56:41
Christians on yes, but I mean it, it, it drives.
56:45
American politics, yeah, of course it does, because APEC is
56:49
controlling American politics. Literally everybody in Congress,
56:51
2/3 of punkers are, are are Israel controlled, right.
56:56
So of course they get, they get, they get, they get wild.
56:59
But like that all these, you know, these Ben Shapiros, these
57:06
these Barsal presidents, you know, there's so many players,
57:09
there's so many powerful Zionist Jews in America and they all go
57:14
after Tucker. And what did what did you do?
57:16
He interviewed Nick Queens. I don't like Nick Queens at all.
57:19
I think what he is saying is sometimes close to disgusting.
57:25
He is. He says like we need a Christian
57:27
theocratry in in in the United States.
57:31
He says disgusting things about women.
57:33
And I mean, like, I'm an anti, I'm an anti feminist.
57:36
But like what he's saying is like a different level, right?
57:38
And I wasn't a group chat with him.
57:40
I've never, I've never interacted with such a
57:45
narcissist person. So we were, we were discussing
57:49
stuff and he was making arguments.
57:51
I was making arguments others working with.
57:52
He was like, who are you even? You're like an unimportant
57:55
person. Shut up stuff like this.
57:58
And it was like, wow, this is, this is wild.
58:01
I was like, you know what I did during COVID exposed.
58:03
He's like, I don't fucking care. You're a nobody.
58:05
I'm like, wow, this guy has problems, right?
58:07
So, yeah. And when I asked him about his
58:10
relationship to Ellie Alexander, who's a groomer, who is a
58:13
pedophile, and they're good friends, right?
58:17
Yeah. He blocked me.
58:18
But OK, he can do whatever he want.
58:19
And I think that Tucker Carlson interviewed him as good.
58:24
I mean, like, you should, you should talk to everybody.
58:25
You should even talk to Nick Fuentes.
58:27
It's fine, you know? And I totally defend the right
58:30
of Nick Fuentes to to to not be cancelled to to to freaks.
58:36
Bailey now speak freely. So he should be allowed to do
58:39
so, right? I mean, like we all have this
58:42
right of freedom of expression. He is as well.
58:44
And he shouldn't be cancelled for having different opinion.
58:46
It's not my opinion, but I totally support his right of
58:49
having an opinion. And Tucker calls and talk to
58:52
him. And yeah, he should have been
58:54
more more critical now and then. But I mean, like, it's it's
58:56
Tucker can also make his own decisions, how critical he is
58:59
and what he's what he's asking or not, right?
59:01
I mean, like, if you look at CNN and other media, they're way
59:05
more propaganda than than a, than an interview of Tucker
59:07
Carlson with Nick friends of Vladimir Putin or, or I know
59:11
who. So they're not cancelling,
59:14
trying to cancel. Let me talk to you.
59:16
Because he talked to someone they don't like.
59:18
That's that's, that's super insane.
59:19
And they're all doing this together.
59:21
They're all doing this together. It's not like there's one of
59:25
these voices of these of these Jewish Zionist voices, like,
59:30
hey, guys, calm down, calm down a bit.
59:33
No, they're all in it, all of them.
59:36
I don't see any exception. So that's the crazy thing.
59:39
So I'm wondering why, I mean, maybe you have an idea why, why
59:45
is it is it a cult is like, you know, Scientology, if you if you
59:50
speak out against it, you're out.
59:52
What is it? I, I I have no answer to this.
59:56
Yeah, it's, it's something that I also wonder it's that.
1:00:01
It's kind of like the climate change thing in many ways.
1:00:05
People buy into it. It's indoctrination, propaganda.
1:00:10
But I think there's something deeper with the whole Zionist
1:00:13
thing. I think it it, it comes down to
1:00:18
basically a Sunday school belief in the chosen people, the chosen
1:00:22
land. That's why you have like 70
1:00:24
million Americans, you know, who blindly stand with Israel.
1:00:30
I mean, I've been asking this question for about a year and a
1:00:34
half now to various Christians who, you know, state that they
1:00:40
stand with Israel. And so my question is along the
1:00:43
lines of, well, are you a Jew? No.
1:00:46
Are you an Israeli citizen? No.
1:00:48
OK, So then why do you stand with Israel?
1:00:51
And they don't want to say it's because they were taught that
1:00:54
it's the chosen people or chosen land.
1:00:56
They don't want to say it. So they make all sorts of other
1:00:59
excuses or they just get angry. And I think it comes down to
1:01:05
that sort of deep rooted indoctrination.
1:01:08
That's what I think. But I mean, like, if you're a
1:01:11
Christian, right? I'm an agnostic Christian.
1:01:13
So it's, it's weird actually. I live by Christian values.
1:01:16
So you so basically you're not sure if you're a Christian?
1:01:22
People attack me with this, but I I live by Christian values and
1:01:26
I think there's God, but I don't think that the Bible is the word
1:01:32
of God. So many people hate me for that,
1:01:34
But I mean, like there's, I mean like the, the, the, the Bunny
1:01:39
isn't a ruminant, right? I mean, like there's so many
1:01:41
things in the Bible that are contradictory to each other.
1:01:44
So if it was the word of God would be more consistent.
1:01:47
So that's just my private opinion, but I get along with
1:01:49
Christians very well. I love Christian values and all
1:01:51
of this. So I pretty much aligned with
1:01:54
Christianity. I mean, I'm, I'm a Roman
1:01:57
Catholic, don't like the Pope, but I mean, like, you know, I'm,
1:02:01
I'm a critical, I'm a critical thinker.
1:02:02
So it's, it's very difficult to be a super critical thinker and
1:02:05
go 100% in line and say, like, I believe everything this book
1:02:08
says. Anyways, what I didn't
1:02:11
understand is why Christian Zionists can even believe that
1:02:16
they're got chosen people, which in country would mean that
1:02:20
Christians are not got chosen people.
1:02:22
So you would actually kind of define yourself as a subhuman,
1:02:26
right, because there are like the God chosen people and then
1:02:29
we are below this. So this is like, you know, this
1:02:34
is something that doesn't make any sense to me and that's why I
1:02:37
oppose that. They even call them that means
1:02:39
they call themselves God chosen people.
1:02:41
Ben Shapiro said we are God chosen people.
1:02:42
Mark Levine says it. Randy finds that they all say
1:02:44
it. It's like we are God chosen
1:02:46
people. Who are you?
1:02:46
It's going to be nonsense. It's totally nonsense.
1:02:50
Why should God chose these people?
1:02:53
These right that that they're the only religion that are
1:02:57
trying to trick God every single day where there is.
1:03:01
You know, it's not even biblical, dude.
1:03:03
I mean, if you were to, if you were to try and come at this
1:03:05
from a biblical argument, there is no supporting biblical
1:03:09
argument either, Scofield. Bible.
1:03:11
They were like, yeah, but that's a different discussion.
1:03:14
But like, I mean, what they're doing is they're put on fishing
1:03:17
rods, fishing lines around Manhattan and say this is an
1:03:20
Azov. It's a imaginary wall so we can
1:03:23
carry stuff during Shabbat. Like they're trying to trick God
1:03:26
the whole time. It's it's like, I don't know,
1:03:30
but this would get this. This would get me into anti
1:03:32
Judaism. And I don't want to go there
1:03:34
because I mean, like I think believe people should believe
1:03:36
whatever they want to believe. If they want to believe this, go
1:03:39
ahead, right. But don't push it on us.
1:03:41
Don't say like we've got chosen people, you're or less you're
1:03:43
nothing. Don't treat us like this.
1:03:46
You know, don't treat others like this.
1:03:47
Don't treat Palestinian children, women like this, you
1:03:49
know, don't justify atrocities. And I just want, you know, I
1:03:54
just want humanity to win just like during COVID, just like be
1:03:57
be human, be good to each other. You know, you can, you can
1:04:00
criticize Hamas just like you criticize Zionists.
1:04:03
And I think you should, you should by the way, if there is
1:04:05
like, if there's Hamas, like killing people from being
1:04:08
homosexual is like, you know, shut the fuck up.
1:04:11
You know, they have no right to live as well.
1:04:13
But I mean, like, we are, we are talking here about like
1:04:16
literally hundreds of thousands of civilians that have been
1:04:19
injured and killed and they're still justifying this.
1:04:23
And I think people who justify these crimes are evil, are
1:04:28
totally evil and should be, should be, you know, we should
1:04:34
be able to call them out without being called labels and without
1:04:37
being getting cancelled. Just quickly you you aren't
1:04:43
working as a scientist anymore, you know?
1:04:46
How nobody would ever take me There's there is no chance
1:04:50
nobody wants to take in an anti-Semitic anti vexer.
1:04:54
I mean, that's what they call me, right?
1:04:55
So no institution would ever take me.
1:04:57
So yeah, I can't I can't work as a science anymore.
1:05:00
What I would love to, but I'm not I'm now doing my own
1:05:03
observations in the world, which is like a much better science.
1:05:06
So I run my own experiments here with tomatoes.
1:05:09
I, you know, observe things and I draw my private conclusions.
1:05:13
And this is like much more honest than working for an
1:05:16
institution that is actually telling you what you have to
1:05:19
believe and what you have to write.
1:05:21
But I mean, you are doing many things that we have been
1:05:28
suggesting people do over the last few years.
1:05:31
Yeah, be be self-sufficient. Be self-sufficient.
1:05:36
Decouple yourself from the government, because the
1:05:39
government is no good, right? I'm not just talking about
1:05:42
beetles. I'm talking about yeah, but I
1:05:44
have to I have to beat already for 10 years.
1:05:45
So this way before No, I'm literally trying to yeah, to to
1:05:55
be be more independent because this is just the start.
1:05:58
I mean, like wait until the, the digital IDs and the government
1:06:05
backed digital currencies are rolling out.
1:06:08
That's when the real shit starts, when they can just shut
1:06:11
you down or shut your countdown or whatever.
1:06:13
It's I mean, it's already starting, right?
1:06:16
And wait until they control all the social media.
1:06:18
I mean, like now TikTok, I'm a TikTok.
1:06:21
I mean, like, I'm not on TikTok, but TikTok was quite free.
1:06:24
People were allowed to say stuff against Israel and now they're
1:06:26
it's owned by American Jews because Trump put too much
1:06:30
pressure on them And they like they're like, they're like
1:06:32
centering all criticism against Israel them again, you know, the
1:06:38
and X is kind of free still, but still, you know, I get all the
1:06:43
propaganda in my timeline. So it's also kind of controlled
1:06:46
by or at least not totally controlled, but there's still
1:06:50
some influence. And all the other social media.
1:06:52
We all know who's who's owning it.
1:06:56
And let's not talk about the mainstream media.
1:06:58
So it's it's an infowar. It's literally Jewish Zionists
1:07:03
and also Christian Zionists against, against the truth,
1:07:06
against US, against for speech, against everything we stand for.
1:07:10
And let's see where it's where it's going.
1:07:12
But I mean, like what I, what I, I've quite hope in this.
1:07:16
Unfortunately, I need to have hope on the leftist as well,
1:07:18
because the leftist are opposing this very rigidly.
1:07:21
And yeah, I hate to say this, but people are at least people
1:07:27
are waking up. You know, once you once you woke
1:07:30
up to reality, it's very hard to go back asleep and more and more
1:07:33
people awaken. I've, I've never seen an
1:07:35
awakening like like this happening.
1:07:37
I think maybe that never happened in history during
1:07:39
COVID, many people woke up and those who didn't wake up during
1:07:41
COVID, no wake up with Israel, like many leftist wake up.
1:07:44
So yet he had a great great awakening on the right now on
1:07:48
the left. And this could be in our favor
1:07:51
or in favor of humanity, because I didn't want to be a front man
1:07:55
politician, you know, because I think they're all corrupt.
1:07:58
So I just want, I just want people to, to be free, right?
1:08:04
And that's, that's actually the war.
1:08:06
It's, it's us. It's, it's either freedom or
1:08:08
slavery. It's literally what George all
1:08:10
wrote 1984 was like with different topics.
1:08:14
And that's what we're up against.
1:08:17
Simon, how can my audience follow you?
1:08:21
If they want to follow me, they just go on Axe and they put my
1:08:23
name. There's, I mean, like there are
1:08:26
many fake accounts, but I mean, if I put my name in the into the
1:08:29
search engine there at the top, you just see one with a yellow
1:08:34
dot next to it's me. And yeah, that's how they can
1:08:37
follow me. And I should, I should get more
1:08:39
active on on, on Telegram 2 telegrams just like my surname,
1:08:44
but that's about it. I don't have too much time for,
1:08:46
for all the social media. I try to be active.
1:08:48
I thought the day, but I mean, like I'm working outside a lot.
1:08:51
I'm trying to, you know, be 100% self-sufficient.
1:08:55
And yeah, that's that's taking like 10 hours of my day.
1:08:59
And the rest, I'm trying to be bit active.
1:09:02
Yeah, but that's how they can follow me.
1:09:04
Oh, how can they follow you, Jerome?
1:09:05
That's even more important. You need more followers.
1:09:11
They can go to your social media and you can direct them to me.
1:09:17
I'll do that. That's a good one.
1:09:19
Simon got egg. As always my friend, thank you
1:09:22
for joining me in the Drangers. Thank you.