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Baal Worship & Saturn's Black Cube Cult | Rob K · Chris Thrall's Bought the T-Shirt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello friends.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host, Chris Throuw. I'm a former Rule Riies commando.
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  Speaker 3: I've adventured for better and sometimes worse, across eighty countries
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  Speaker 3: on all seven continents.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Bort the T Shirt Podcast. Rob. How
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  Speaker 2: are you doing, sir?
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  Speaker 1: I'm very good, Chris, Thank you so much for having
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  Speaker 1: me on.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, we've all gone americanize them. We everyone says I'm
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  Speaker 2: good now. I really fight not to say it, but
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  Speaker 2: I've even found myself saying it. It's crazy. This was
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  Speaker 2: some sort of psychology going on there, surely, mate, lots
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  Speaker 2: to talk about. You've been on the journey. I think
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  Speaker 2: I've been on the journey. I know our audience before
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  Speaker 2: putting on the journey, folks, an't we journey through journey,
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  Speaker 2: through nonsense, through the darkness to kind of clear the
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  Speaker 2: weeds away and find a place for herself in paradise.
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  Speaker 2: So first question then, like did you wake up?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: What was the point in your life where you thought,
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  Speaker 2: hang on a set, there's something really not quite right here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So it all started off when I lost my mum.
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  Speaker 1: To be honest, he you know, had the usual health care,
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  Speaker 1: she had the big one unfortunately, and she had the
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  Speaker 1: usual health care and I watched her.
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  Speaker 2: Get work, Rob can you speak up? Oh, we're not
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  Speaker 2: going to hear you.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, So I watched her health decline rapidly after she
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  Speaker 1: was given interventions. And from that point forward, really I
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  Speaker 1: knew that something was amiss because I knew that that
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  Speaker 1: really wasn't the way that you would make people better,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And yeah, it's been proved to me on
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  Speaker 1: numerous occasions that those types of things are actually you know, encouraged.
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  Speaker 1: The poor. Healthcare is actually encouraged so that they can
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  Speaker 1: make more and more and more out of it. You know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's the beginning of my waking up. And I was
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  Speaker 1: fortunate enough that I had a few different jigsaw pieces
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  Speaker 1: from different areas. So I've done a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: work on trustees for charity, and I've been you know,
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  Speaker 1: outrageous corruption from all manner of different angles from the
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  Speaker 1: charities industry, right from the top right through to the bottom.
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  Speaker 1: And I knew that obviously, you know, the people that
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  Speaker 1: were organizing these industry associations, they were in on it
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  Speaker 1: as well, you know, And that was just another part
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  Speaker 1: of the jigsaw puzzle. And you know, get in different
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  Speaker 1: areas and you know, finding out about you know, the
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  Speaker 1: type of things that were in the healthcare from this
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  Speaker 1: non stance that was going on. You know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: looking at those types of ingredients that was in that
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  Speaker 1: it must get through to you and think make you
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  Speaker 1: think this can't be in our interest. You know, heavy
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  Speaker 1: metals and the like of that sort of stuff going
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  Speaker 1: in them. It isn't going to make us better. You know.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things I say a lot to people
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  Speaker 1: is that you know, your body isn't lacking from uranium
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  Speaker 1: or heavy metals. You know, it's not lacking from statins
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  Speaker 1: or humotherapy or any of those other things. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it is lacking in nutrition, and it is lacking breaming
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  Speaker 1: out to be cleaned. You know. But all the way
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  Speaker 1: through that dodgy medical gam that a few years ago,
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  Speaker 1: they were all all of the information, all of the
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  Speaker 1: advice was negatively benefiting our health. And you know, for
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  Speaker 1: people that actually understood healthcare and how their body works
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  Speaker 1: to go along with those types of things, it was
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  Speaker 1: just ridiculous. You know, Masks for instance.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly the first thing I remember, I was going out
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  Speaker 2: for a run rob when a medical nonsense would hit
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  Speaker 2: and everyone was going along, you know, the majority were
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  Speaker 2: going and I was just I was out for me
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  Speaker 2: run and I was thinking if this was true in
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  Speaker 2: a pragmatic society, Ford thinking society. First thing, vegetables are
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  Speaker 2: now free government sub you know, screw paying nuclear weapons
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  Speaker 2: and all that. You know, seven seven more runways at
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  Speaker 2: hethrow or whatever they talk about. You know, get people
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  Speaker 2: in an alkaline pH balanced state. Boom, sorted, job done, nothing,
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  Speaker 2: nothing more needed. So yeah, I think, like yourself, you
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  Speaker 2: just know immediately that this is it's a long running
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  Speaker 2: scam ever since they put that chap Pasteur over bishamp
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  Speaker 2: and they funded Pasteur because he put everyone in victim mode,
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  Speaker 2: saying that that you know, you got you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to take any responsibility for your well being because it's
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  Speaker 2: other people that you.
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  Speaker 1: Know there to blame.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Vic and I talk about this in the
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  Speaker 2: Enlightenment Journey. If you're in victim mode, if you think
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  Speaker 2: life and other people do to you, then you're locked
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  Speaker 2: in the matrix. It's only when you start taking responsibility
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  Speaker 2: and realizing I'm a beautiful living organism. My ancestors have
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  Speaker 2: gone for millions, if not billions of years. Absolutely perfecto,
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  Speaker 2: no problem mode. Exactly, you don't need to get to
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty and suddenly screw all that go to a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of trillionaire psychopathic mentalists, evil, gas lighting, greedy, lying,
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  Speaker 2: cheating scammers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they all think that the world is overpopulated as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they all want to get the population down. You know,
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  Speaker 2: when when you chase all these individuals like Gates, everyone
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  Speaker 2: think Gates is a good Scottish surname or whatever. They know,
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  Speaker 2: they're all they're all in the club mate when you
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  Speaker 2: chase When when you chase them back, they've all done,
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  Speaker 2: you know, changed their name or whatever, has come down
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  Speaker 2: the mother or father. And yeah, we I'm saying this, Rob,
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  Speaker 2: Don't you think that that as a civilization, we've totally
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  Speaker 2: taken our eye off the ball and let these monsters
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  Speaker 2: get in everywhere?
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, it's exactly like you just said. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we've given the responsibility to somebody else. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: if they're not going to have our primary concerns are heart,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have their own concerns are heart, and
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  Speaker 1: that would entirely earning themselves lots of money at our detriment,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And One of the biggest things that I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm here to teach people is that they
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  Speaker 1: know more about their own body than anybody else does,
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  Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? So if they try
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  Speaker 1: one thing that's going to bring them better health, they
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  Speaker 1: know the next day how to take it better. So
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  Speaker 1: I encourage people to, you know, try a tiny amount
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  Speaker 1: of something, and then the next day they've got all
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  Speaker 1: the information to know how much they should do today.
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense. So it's basically taking that responsibility from
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  Speaker 1: somebody else and put it firmly back in your own lap.
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  Speaker 1: And you can think, you know, I'm going to try today,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to incorporate that into my diet until
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  Speaker 1: I get a really good result, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: And you just keep building it up, keep building it up,
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  Speaker 1: and then at some point in the future you might think, right,
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  Speaker 1: my body's had enough fitmency at the moment, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to just cancel that for a while and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to try something different, you know, and then incorporate that in.
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  Speaker 1: And again you're taking the responsibility away from them, which
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  Speaker 1: has given you the impetus and the energy and the
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  Speaker 1: belief that you can actually change your own your own path.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of the big things that I teach that
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  Speaker 1: you're your own doctor.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, especially when you get to our age. You've
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  Speaker 2: got to self heal because things start, you know, because
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  Speaker 2: I sit here a lot and I'm using the mouse
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  Speaker 2: like this, and also then I'm on my phone doing
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  Speaker 2: you know, checking me social media and doing videos while
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  Speaker 2: I'm out running. It puts a lot of strain on
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  Speaker 2: my shoulder. So one of the exercises I have to
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  Speaker 2: do in the gym every time I go in there
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  Speaker 2: is reverse and rather than lift up, I get the
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  Speaker 2: rubber band and I I push it down, so it
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  Speaker 2: works the reverse set of muscles, as you know. So yes,
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  Speaker 2: I want to stay before we get too much into
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  Speaker 2: health stuff, Rob What why is it then? I mean, God,
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  Speaker 2: it's the funny things about our life. We had it good,
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  Speaker 2: really part we came off the back of the industrial Revolution,
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  Speaker 2: when we weren't having to be shoved up chimneys or
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  Speaker 2: down a coal mine. God clearly loves us because he
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  Speaker 2: gave us BMX and the rave scene, and I genuinely
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  Speaker 2: I feel so blessed. I was just thinking this morning,
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  Speaker 2: actually it was a bit of a pain in the
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  Speaker 2: ass being a father, because if I could have been single,
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  Speaker 2: I could have sat back in the arch and just
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  Speaker 2: laughed my ass off at all of this whilst getting
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  Speaker 2: really drunk and anything else that may have happened to
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  Speaker 2: come my way. And what I'm getting at is in
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  Speaker 2: it a bummer that we got it good on this planet.
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  Speaker 2: But there's these d entity that are just solely intent
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  Speaker 2: on dark control and power. And how do you view it?
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  Speaker 2: Because I think it's fascinating. On the one hand, I
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  Speaker 2: think we need to recognize these individuals, this network and
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  Speaker 2: the damage that they've done in order to like not
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  Speaker 2: fall for their tricks, their propaganda, their MSM, their Hollywood
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  Speaker 2: that you know what they've done, but also of recognized
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  Speaker 2: that all they're doing really is they're highlighting the darkness
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  Speaker 2: in you. They're holding out the bottle of wine and
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  Speaker 2: going yummy, yummy, young and you're the one walking down
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  Speaker 2: the tesco and buying it. They're putting up the porn
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  Speaker 2: sites with their holywood. You know, the majority of I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what the statistics are, but an awful lot
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  Speaker 2: of people are accessing, you know, those services they're slaughtering.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's thirty trillion animals a year in horrific
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  Speaker 2: in a horrific manner. I mean, all murder is horrific,
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  Speaker 2: are they Well, we're the ones that are eating that
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  Speaker 2: very often, people with no thought at all. Rob, It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: on fullp I'll just chuck away that half a chicken.
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  Speaker 2: Haven't even stopped to think that half a chicken that
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  Speaker 2: was someone's son or daughter. There you've just chucked in
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  Speaker 2: the bin. So what do you what do you what
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  Speaker 2: do you think about the darkness? Rob?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? I think the darkness has to be exposed. They
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  Speaker 1: can't they can't survive if everybody knows who they are
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  Speaker 1: and what they get up to. You know, that's the
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  Speaker 1: number one thing that they're most scared of, is being
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  Speaker 1: shown for what they are. And you know, in my eyes,
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  Speaker 1: light always wins, like will always extinguished darkness. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it might take a little bit of time, but eventually
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  Speaker 1: that is going to win, and there's no two ways
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  Speaker 1: about that. In the meantime, what I personally try and
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  Speaker 1: do is is try as many people as I can
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  Speaker 1: and you know, connect as many people as I can,
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  Speaker 1: because that's another thing that they hate, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: want us warring with each other and arguing, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: they organize the extreme ends of the scale on both sides,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So they will be organizing
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  Speaker 1: the racist the racist, they will be organized in the
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  Speaker 1: flip side of that, just create more division and more
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  Speaker 1: arguments between us. They know that they can come in
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  Speaker 1: and clear up because we're all finny little units. Then
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  Speaker 1: instead of getting together, you know, if we can get
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  Speaker 1: together and say this game stops today, then the game
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  Speaker 1: stops today, you know what I mean? They're this do you.
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  Speaker 2: Think then, touching back on what just saying, Robert, maybe
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  Speaker 2: this is spiritual battle. Maybe you're never going to get
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  Speaker 2: everyone on side because everyone's on their own ego trip.
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  Speaker 2: Like when we had the marches and that in London,
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  Speaker 2: they weren't solid I'm not trying to sound negative. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just trying to be realistic. They weren't solidarity. They were
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  Speaker 2: just a whole thousands of one thousands of people all
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  Speaker 2: in their own with their own agenda, some of which
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  Speaker 2: were so way off the ball as to be unhelpful.
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  Speaker 2: Some were like militant, some were like, well, look, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we don't like allout medical nonsense, but we're here to
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  Speaker 2: protect the rhinos. It's like, fucking how did you twist
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  Speaker 2: that in? So this is what I say on it
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  Speaker 2: on my channel every day is look, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: beautiful spiritual better you rescue yourself. You wake up every
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  Speaker 2: single day in paradise and and I think that that's like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's the first stop, that's the first port
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  Speaker 2: of call is to do that. Otherwise I think you're
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  Speaker 2: just going to get this disappointed. Does that make a
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  Speaker 2: bit of sense?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely absolutely. Another thing that they often is that
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  Speaker 1: you know, the only thing that matters is now. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you're not enjoying now, you have to change something.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's no point in being in yesterday or
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  Speaker 1: in tomorrow all the time because they're not here now.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you can waste now with yesterday or tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: You know. So that's sort of going into what you're
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  Speaker 1: saying as well. You know, waking up in paradise is
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  Speaker 1: you know, change something. You have to you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: down to you and you alone to do that. And
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  Speaker 1: what I find as well, it's the careers that can't
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  Speaker 1: do that because they're caring for so many other people.
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  Speaker 1: And I say to them that, you know, the careers
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  Speaker 1: are the ones that need to careing for do you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean? So they have to be living
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  Speaker 1: for now, and they have to do the thing that
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  Speaker 1: are good for them, the things that they enjoy, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, yes, sorry Rob, you lost me a bit. Then
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  Speaker 2: who do you mean by the care as?
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  Speaker 1: So you know the people that are looking after other people. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but you know the moms and dads, the people that
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  Speaker 1: do caring for a living. They might go round to
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  Speaker 1: eight or ten people's houses a day to get them
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  Speaker 1: out of bed and get them dressed and get them
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  Speaker 1: fed or et cetera, et cetera. You know, if they're
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  Speaker 1: not looking after themselves, they can't look after anybody else.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they haven't got anything else to give, if
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  Speaker 1: that makes sense. And the bar is, you know, basically
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  Speaker 1: getting those people to give and give and give and
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  Speaker 1: give and give and give and give and not give
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  Speaker 1: anything back to themselves. You know. Yeah, that's really important thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know that if for instance, there's people depending on you,
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  Speaker 1: often that person thinks that they're more important than them.
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  Speaker 1: Does that makes sense? You know? But really it's that
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  Speaker 1: person that needs the care first, because then they've got
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  Speaker 1: something to actually give to them. People they're caring.
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  Speaker 2: For Yes, I take care of number one. If your
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  Speaker 2: spiritual barrel is empty, you're not really any You're not.
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  Speaker 2: It's why people can be quite strict, aren't they, with
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  Speaker 2: their time, with their emotions, what they give you. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of hard though, because everyone's cutting everyone off for
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  Speaker 2: being negative or whatever, and then that person's got to
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  Speaker 2: deal with the negativity that they wake up and now
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  Speaker 2: you're not their friend on Facebook anymore, wherever it is. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: So the thing we want to move on and I
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  Speaker 2: want to be talking about helicopters and landscaping and all
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  Speaker 2: this kind of fascinating. And I know you've done a
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  Speaker 2: lot of traveling, adventure, sport, this kind of stuff, But
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  Speaker 2: let's just talk about cabal then, because it's almost a
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  Speaker 2: bit like this. They're clearly mentally unwell. When you see
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  Speaker 2: what happened in New York and Washington that time that
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  Speaker 2: there's not the actions of Nott, and you can see
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  Speaker 2: who they are the architects of that event. It's not
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  Speaker 2: odd to work out who you know who they are
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  Speaker 2: all Sabotine Frankists, I say, without a question of a doubt.
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  Speaker 2: And then the same you know, we've had the events
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  Speaker 2: in London and Music Music Festival, all this, all this,
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  Speaker 2: they're clearly twisted and warped to the point where they
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  Speaker 2: will do anything for the darkness. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it's for the money the past. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it's just that they're exceptionally greedy. And I mean you're
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  Speaker 2: literally talking about people that would sell their own grandmother
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  Speaker 2: and they probably have sex with the first before before
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  Speaker 2: they sold them. I mean, it's it's it's a now well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I think that's that's years of inbreeding
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  Speaker 2: because they keep their money in their bloodlines. And this
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  Speaker 2: because I don't think the ordinate. I think the ordinary
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  Speaker 2: person's lost wandering up and down the Tesco Bouza looking
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  Speaker 2: for the second bottle of wine for that evening, and
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  Speaker 2: then you kind of, you know a bit of a
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  Speaker 2: red flag there that all is not paradise in your life.
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  Speaker 2: Or you know, at the drive by getting your bucket
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  Speaker 2: of KFC drive through drive by, that's when you go
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  Speaker 2: and shoot lots of people, isn't it. So my thing
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  Speaker 2: is rob is I think those of us that are
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  Speaker 2: not in the cabal have got a lot of work
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  Speaker 2: to do. There's a lot of greedy higher ups, aren't
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  Speaker 2: there the corporate types that they've got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: work to do on top of a lot because they're
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  Speaker 2: fat and ugly and unhealthy. Plus they're even more you know,
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  Speaker 2: the lower classes just dream of the greed and do
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  Speaker 2: their do the lottery like me to stop doing actually
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  Speaker 2: and now I'll put the money into premium bonds. But
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  Speaker 2: this lot at the top are helping that lot because
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  Speaker 2: they'll do anything that they're they're told to do. What sorry, Rob.
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  Speaker 2: The point I'm getting to is, ye is we've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of work to do on ourselves. But we're
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  Speaker 2: not insanely evil, aren't we?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean me from love first?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: You know you lost your my my mum was poisoned asbestos?
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  Speaker 2: This lot, couldn't they all they care about? Can they
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  Speaker 2: get away of not paying a compensation claim?
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  Speaker 1: Mm hm?
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  Speaker 2: They know only put this stuff out there knowing it's
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  Speaker 2: going to maime and kill in years to come people
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  Speaker 2: they don't doesn't go through the tests or anything like
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  Speaker 2: that like that. That the whole medical thing, like you said, it,
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  Speaker 2: it folds in on it's it. It's folding in on itself,
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  Speaker 2: meaning that you go and have this procedure and then
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: you've got to go back to them in six months
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: time because of all this stuff. It's and you go
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: and beg them for more procedures. It's just evil, evil
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: beyond belief. They know what they're doing. Rob. Sorry, I
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: do appreciate I'm talking a lot, but it's that I
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: invited you on because I you know, I need to
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: have this chat with someone. Just do you know what
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I mean? I just I haven't got anyone else I
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: can speak to about the stuff other than the wonderful
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: people are meat online. I don't know anyone else that
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: would even understand what we're saying now, So just please
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: bear with me, everybody. But we I think society is
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: all in like victim mode, wanting to win the lottery
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: and drink loads of alcohol and not really helping themselves
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: and awful like while they watch Strictly Come dancing. But
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: that's not evil, that's just the seven deadly sins, isn't it.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Whereas these can want to be controllers, something is not
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: right with them. Would you agree?
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah? You know they've been a mk ultrates basically,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you know, as they're growing up, that's what happens to them,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, get taught for others.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: But I think through the bloodline, you get born into
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the colt of Saturin. You you are your You're a
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: prospective member already, are you not?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: This is why there's people out there you wouldn't even suspect.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: People in Hollywood, people in you know, the Silicon Valley.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, one of the phrases that I heard that
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: really sort of resonated with me is that if you
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: know their name, they're in the game, do you know
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: what I mean? So, if their name is constantly in
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the media, they're going to be on their wavelengths, whether
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: they know it or not. You know, whether they're corrupted
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: or whether they're just going down their path. And that's
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: what the Cabell wants them to say. So they'll be
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: promoting them because of that, you know. But the good,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the good people, you probably don't know their names, do
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Sarah Mihall was one of them.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Absolutely amazing lady.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Do you know, say again, Rob is Sarah and my hill? No,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not aware?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have a look into her. She's an
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: absolutely amazing and you know, most people like us won't
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: have heard of her because she won't have got the
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: airtime that the people that are given their side of
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the stories would be getting in the air.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's her field.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: So she's a doctor. She started to question the medical
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: narrative because people won't getting better and yeah, basically started
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to recommend natural treatments and doing I've got approached by
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: the GMC, taken to court, tried to kick off out
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: of being a doctor. There's crazy stats. I think it's
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: that they've taken her to court forty two times now
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and she's won forty times of that.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'll say this to people every day. There's
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: so many everyone's talk about revolution in this country at
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the moment, or you know, rebel uprising, and I said,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: there's so much you can do to take down for
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: about First of all, stop blaming other people for your
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: well being. It doesn't work like that. All your wellbeing issues,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: every single one, comes from within you, depending on how
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: you choose to live your life. The exception being poisoning
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: in the environment. I don't need to mention the different
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: ways out there that you can get poisoned. And if
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: someone comes up and punches you in the face, that
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: or you get hit by a car, that's going to
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: affect you all the stuff that they tell you you've
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: got to stay away from other pits. It's they're having
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: a laugh with everyone, and everyone goes along with it
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: because they don't you know, no one wants to learn
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the truth. So yes, like I said, let's come on
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: to the health stuff. But you mentioned Rob the symbolism.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Can we talk about that?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Sure? Sorry, I keep diverting back to their healthcare stuff.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's only that, Like, I appreciate that, but that's
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: the hardest thing that we're going to be chatting about. Rob.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I can't give a lot of time to it because
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the platform we're on, you are literally not allowed to
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: go against the World Health Organization. So, friends out there,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I'll make this disclaimer. Now, we are not in any
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: way telling you what to do with your body your health.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: You need to go out there and you know that's
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: your partnership. Neither are we you know, how would we
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: dare go against the World Health Organization?
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, oh my gosh, So we're not telling you
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: to do that. However, Rob, like myself, is a man
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: of experience, and we're just here to have a NATA
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: about what the things that interest us, rob isn't it
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: absolutely so? Putting the health to one side. Again, you're
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: a bit hot on the old symbolism.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love all of that sort of stuff. I
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: read a mean years and years ago saying that they're
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: similar and will be their downfall, and you know, from
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: that point forward, I just sort of thought, you know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: if I learn a lot about the symbolism, I'll be
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: able to spot part for it. And yeah, it's very
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: very interesting. They put symbolism over everything that they do
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: in the building, and yeah, the communications that they have
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: with us, Yeah, it's crazy the amount of new stories
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: that come with the number thirty three attached, either in
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the background or as part of the stats, or you know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: somebody will be standing there with a thirty three badge
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: on or that sort of thing. I just I'm fascinating really,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: but knowing that they're actually showing us to their cards.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: You know, for instance, if they want to show us
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: something that's good, it will be a star, but it
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: will be a pentagram which is upside down, so the
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: two points will be pointing downwards, and that would be
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: symbolic of that it's actually a good thing for us.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: If it's a bad thing, for us. They'll flip the
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: pentagram the other way and now it's the pentagram as
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: in all. You know, So for instance, the EU would
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: have the good pentagram, the police force in America would
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: have the good pentagram, but then other things, you know,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: they would just flip it at the other side. And
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: then that's to show that actually it's not good for
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: us and it's good for them. You know. The whole
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: thing is the inversion. They love the inversion with everything.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: You know, the education system isn't for us, the law
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: system isn't for us, the voting system is brass. You know.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Non of those systems are for us. They're for them.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: And yeah, when you realize that everything that they do
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: they try to invert a little bit, like the tobacco.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: You know, they make out that tobacco is really bad
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: for you, and of course when you're smoking it, it's
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: going to be do you know what I mean, But
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: it's actually quite good for us. The symbolism that most
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: caught my eye, especially you know, when I first started
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: going down this is we mentioned Petro earlier that Petra's
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: a really ancient building. I won't get into how old
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: it is because there's so much controversy around how old
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: it is, but it's basically a building that's carved into
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: one piece of stone and on the front of that
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: there's symbolism which we see transferred right through to today's
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: over the big buildings, the power buildings, you know, the
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: White House for instance, has got this symbolism, Buckingham Palace,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you know, Bank of England, the museums, there's so many
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: different we.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Just so we don't gloss over this. So who's putting
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: the symbols out? What are they?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: What do they what do they mean?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Okay? So who's putting the symbols out? In my opinion,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: that's the thirteen families of the Illuminati, the people that
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: have been in control since the very beginning of time. Interestingly,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: the mosques when they were aligned and they were built,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: used to point towards Petra, and then at some point
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: in the in the ancient past, they got turned and
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: they actually then started to point towards Mecca, which at
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the time when it was first built was called Kaba,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: and they worshiped Allah at Kabba. So this place moved
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: from Petra to where they workhip Allah, which is Kabbalah.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: You know, the secretive religion that I believe is behind
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: all of this stuff. The symbolism actually is like the
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: triumph that was on top of the piers, so you
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: see it so often. Once you see it once and
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you notice it, you'll never unsee it. But literally it's
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: on for instance, the Australian Parliament buildings, the Belgian Parliament buildings,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: the Dutch parliament buildings, you know, all of those types
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: of power structures, you know where people go to exert
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: power over the people, they have this symbolism on it. Now,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: i'd written the talk that I mentioned to you and
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: actually delivered it a few times, and then I was
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: actually just going through some money in my wallet and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I noticed that the symbolism is there on our money, right,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: So the symbolism right back from Petra is on our
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: money today. The American dollar has got the pyramid with
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the wall seeing eye on it, right. But we've got
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: this other, this other symbol. Now. You mentioned the tree
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: of life earlier, and you know how in the background
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: of the tree of life you've got like triangles and
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you know, symbols in the actual background of it. Because
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: that makes sense. I mean, I can actually show you
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: pictures of it if it's.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: We saw were talking the flower of life or the
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: from Kabbalah. Oh yeah, okay, yeah.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: But I don't know too much about it. All I
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: do know is that the symbolism through their buildings and
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the pentagram is on that tree of life. You know.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Now it's got different nodes, doesn't it, So different circles,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and I think that you know, that would be different
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: types have been different types of esoteric knowledge basically, but yeah,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: they're in that tree of life. Clearly. You can see
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: that triangle, you know, and then that's actually part of
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the pentagram. That makes sense. So whenever somebody walks into
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: one of those buildings, they're walking underneath the chin of Satan.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: If that triangle is part of the pentagram, as I suspect,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: you know, it certainly is like that tree of life.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: So that's that's the symbolism. And yeah, if you take
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: a note out of your wallet now you'll see it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: You'll get the Saxburg Ghoth. I mean, what's his name,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: King Charles, sorry, one of the families of the Illuminative
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: thirteen Families. And what I actually did on that talk
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that I mentioned is that I started to look into
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: the thirteen families and the residents that they live in
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: right now the rough chart. I've got a really big
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: place down the road from where I live in trin
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: and I just googled Rothschild's residence and I started to
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: scan the building for this symbolism. Sure enough, it's there.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: It's on the on the Rothchild resident residence in trin
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I thought, oh, I wonder what about the Rockefellers. Have
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: they got a property where that symbolism from Petra is
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: also in? Sure enough, there's the picture of the Rothchild's
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: residence and it's got that funny triangle on the top
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: of their building. Did it all the way through the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Thirteen Families? The Astors have it, and the Kennedys have it,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the Saxburg Goats have it on Buckingham Palace. But really interestingly,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the Astors one, the Astors one, doesn't actually show that
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: triangle on the front of the building underneath the main
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: door in And I thought, you know, is this kind
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: of you know, ruined my theory that all of these
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: people would live in one of these types of building
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: until I saw the chimney for this place. Now there's
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: said different chimneys in this picture and on top of
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the chimney. They have got a mini Petro on every
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: single one of them. Right, So the astors went to
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: very long length to prove that they were part of
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: this clan that was showing this symbolism on the building.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I can send you fit pictures of this, Chris.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's too late for that because we're recording.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: What when you say Petro, sorry, are you talking about
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: the ancient ruins.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Or yeah, the ancient building that was carved into one
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: piece of stone. So the triangle on the front of that,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: if anybody wants to google it, and they'll see like
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: a low lying triangle sort of still to a pyramid,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: but much fatter than that at the bottom, and then
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: they'll see the peers coming up underneath that triangle right
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: on all of these residences.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: That's mad, that building, isn't it?
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: In Petra crazy? You know? So what I say that
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: in my talk there is that the people that build
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: that are master architects and then master masons.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Right, yes, you're just getting a picture of it up
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: on the screen.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Are they actually? You know, the Freemason day was that
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the beginning of masonry.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: And this triangle are you referring to where they have
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: the sort of colonnades. Is that the right word, the columns,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: the slope, the long sloping triangle on top.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: That's the way like a triangle on top of those piers.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: There's that triangle that you're seeing the tree of life. Now. Interestingly,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: so I've mentioned the thirteen Families of the Illuminati, right,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: What I also did was I looked into the secret society.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: So for instance, the Bullingdon Club, the headquarters that got
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: that triangle in the front of their building. The Freemasons,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: so the head Masons at the lodges, they sit on
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: a chair underneath that triangle, right, So it's all interwoven.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: The skull and Bones, for instance, the Skull and Bones
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: temple at Yale. Do you know about those guys?
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Yes? Who doesn't? Three two two?
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I wish I didn't to be honest with you, but yeah,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: obviously the skull and Bones. You know, many presidents from
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: America ahead of the CIA and all manner of different
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: you know, highly powerful jobs are organized from within the
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: skull and Bones, and their temple has that symbolism on it,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: not only as you walk through the door, but above
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: the building building end windows, you know, it's literally so
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: if it's going through varieties and it's going through the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: actual families of the illuminating, that must be a thing, right,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: there's no way that that isn't actually a coincidence that
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: they're both seemed to be revering this symbolism.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's how much is it going on? That
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: we're never going to know?
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: But thing, I mean, there's levels on the actual religion
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: of Kabbala, which is just to disleep, you know, to
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: dissuade people from the truth, to mislead people, to take
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: them away why the teaching. So yeah, the whole religion
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: is about misleading us. You know, so we probably are
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: never going to find out all of the truth. But
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you know, the more times people like ourselves have chats,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the more chance we've got of actually getting some sort
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: of knowledge and around working it all out. What I
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: actually think is that those buildings, as soon as you
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: walk underneath that chin of baal, that's when they harvest
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: your energy when you're on the inside of that. I
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: feel like it's it's going to sound crazy to some people,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: but it's like a bit like a portal, whereas you know,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: everything is organic outside the second that you walk inside.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: That's it they're taking from you. I've got a friend that,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: you know, she does a lot of work around grids
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: and organic grid structures and how to stop them from
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: doing that. And she'll say to me, Rob, you know,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: have you ever seen where there's children's play areas with
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: an arch over the entrance? And I'll say, yeah, that's funny.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: You should mention that I have noticed that. And she'll
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: say to me, you know, if you douse outside, you'll
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: get organic. If you go inside underneath the arch, you'll
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: be inorganic, and they're harvesting the energy. It's fascinating. You know,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of people will find that difficult to believe,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: but you know, I've seen it so many different times
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: and in different ways. One of the things that I
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: believe that they do is that they they put monuments
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: and centetas and all of that on lay lines, so
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: that we pour our grief into those monuments, and then
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: it's actually our grief that gets sent down the lay
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: lines and gets distributed around. Yes, you know what I mean.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: They it's like it's like they've placed us in bondage
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: with our grief, do you know what I mean? I
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: certainly know that from my mum, you know, having so
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: much pain, and you know what I mean, such a hate.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I hate the whole thing, mate, I hate the thing
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: that these wars are ritual sacrifice, getting rid of the
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: alphas so that this locking stay in control. And yet
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: rather than call it out for what it is, which
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: is orchestrated, all were these bloodlines. You know that, you
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: you mentioned that, No, we worship those that fail because
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: of this sile and we build these silly statues that
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: are obelisks, so clearly a reference to Babylon Babylonian magic.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: And and ah, I sound like I'm sort of a bit,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: you know, upset by all this place. Just I'm just saying,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying what I see, Rob, because I'm in
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: that position where I see all this and I can
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: say it, and I think someone needs to because there
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: must be other people at I mean, the home a
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: remembrance thing. It's an absolute joke. It's a joke that
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: will go and remember a colleague, but we won't call
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: out the people that sent him to his death so
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: that they could get even more rich in their satanic mansions.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: You know, we'll go there, we'll polish up the medals
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: that the cabal gave us to say there's a good
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: little boy for fighting our illegal wars. Have some trinkets
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: for your chest to really you know, put you in
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: ego mode rather than say I ain't never wearing them
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: things ever. You know they're clever, rob what they're clever,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things that I always go may
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: to people that are selling copies than that is that
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: you know the best way to honor the fallen is
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: to make them more. You know, you can tell us
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: many of those or plastic popper is as you can.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: You're not going to stop more, you know what I mean,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: And you're not going to help the souldiers that have
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: fallen hard times. Yeah, one of their charities, you know,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: there's nothing more than they would like to take that
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: charity money for themselves. They would love that, like the
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: energy that comes with that, you know, they would get
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: their jolly's off locked on taking that man, you know, Yeah.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: The energy harvest things real. You've only got to go
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: to Glastonbury as in the festival, the main stage is
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: a pyramid, so again the same thing a pyramid and
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: the acts that they get are putting out dark energy.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: You know, Snoop dog blessing. Nothing against the bloke, you know,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: smoke as much weed as you like, Snooper. I would
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: have done the same if it wouldn't have sent me mental.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not judging you, but I remember Snoop dogg charging
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: up and down the main stage. It was about I
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: can't remember the time. Someone could probably dispute me on this,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: but it was certainly during the day when all the
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: kids were there sitting with their parents having their picnics
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: or do what the kids do it glass me sitting
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: on their dad's you know, shoulders, bopping around with their
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: ear defenders on Snoop Dogs there, come on, let's smoke
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: some motherfucking weed. And that is all he kept saying
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: all throughout his performance. And I just remember thinking, isn't
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: it mad what we sort of like what just passes
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: as normal now? There would have been an absolute riot
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: had someone done something like that back in the seventies.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: He would never have lived it down. And yet and
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: all these jay z is headlining, jay Z doing his
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Diamond is Diamond, Diamond is thirty three in Jumatria and
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: all this kind of stuff. And so you've got that
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: on the other stages as well. I know it's when
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I was there, they've put horns, you know, or they've
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: put the Babylonian some disc symbolism on on on as
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: you go in. And and then of course there was
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: the Roman amphitheaters where they had the gladiatorials, the gladiators,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: and of course when you've got thousands of people cheering
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: for blood, that's ampplify. I guess that's why they're called amphitheaters.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: That that's that energy is amped up, that satanic energy
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: that you've convinced the public that God, as in this
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: divine manifestation here with his sword, is going to kill God.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: This guy here, you know, with his bloody net. You know,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: we're cheering as as we witness God destroying himself. Yes,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: it's interesting, isn't When you know this stuff?
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: It really is, Yeah, really really fascinating. Once you see it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: You can't so the bloodline thing. I don't want to
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: pick that apart of it, because it is confusing. You've
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: got the thirteen families. You hear about things like black nobility,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: you hear about the families of Venice. Shakespeare wrote a played,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: didn't he the Merchants of Venice, so clearly some kind
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: of acknowledgment. I always put it to people that when
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: the empire went out and it, you know, it ran,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: its ran to its end, as empires always do. Empire's
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: got to be self funding, haven't they. They've got to
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: be bringing enough money back that you can fund the
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: fighters whilst living it up back in Rome. And when
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: that starts to collapse, because the rebel fighters start to
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: attack you, like they did in the North of England,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: then then you have no choice but to watch your
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: empire collapse. So you've got to pull back to Rome.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: And when they pulled back to Rome, the merchants, the catalysts,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: the bankers, the ones who'd cozied up to the leaders,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: telling them, right, invade that country next. They've got a
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: lot of gold and we'll manage that for you, sir,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: don't you worry. The merchants all fled to Venice, called
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Venice after Phoenicia, I believe Gosh, which was Canaanite originally.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not too good at this role. I can't of
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: like get how it all works out. But I'm not
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't spend my weekends reading about this stuff.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Phoenicia is an interesting when phonics, I think it means
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: the word red, hence like red sh rothschild, red shield
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: and this kind of stuff. So and these families that
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: fled to Venice or these merchants became the Thirteen Families.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how that works because obviously the royal
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: families from Germany. And then you've got your sabot in Frankism,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: which is this doctrine of redemption through sin. That's all
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: your sam Smith and your Madonna and your you know,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: putting sexualizing our young and pushing alcohol and controlling the
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: drug the drugs worldwide, and pushing the opium epidemic and
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: fentanel and all this like that just gets aside in
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: sodom and Gomorrah, which is the perverse interpretation of Cabala,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: isn't it. Bala's about divine spark emanating from vessels. This
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: is about destroying those vessels, stamping out the sparks and
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: rebuilding in the manifestation of the devil something like this.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Any thoughts on that wrong, It's I've just struggled it.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: It's and then when you look at life, is it
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: these bloodlines that I mean, you know, Elon Musk's there,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: You've got your palllenteer, your gates. These clearly, you know,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: many of which are puppets. Some are just evil puppets.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: It's one of.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: One of the books that I read a lot is
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: The Art of War by Sun Zoo. Have you ever
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: read it? Yes?
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I have. I love it, And I don't think it's about.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: War, no, no, no, it's where you can apply it
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: to whatever you want to. Really, you want to better
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: your life in a way, you can read book and
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: just buy that. In those ways, it's not just about
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: waging pain on people. But yeah, one of the things
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: it says in there is that you make your enemies
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: think that you're close and you're far, and you make
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: your enemies far when you're close. Now, I think that
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: probably there's extra layers going on above the thirteen families
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: that we're never going to know about. And you know,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: if anything of that type of information the media, then
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: they will get scrubbed, sure of it, you know what
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I mean. So there would be a level above the
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: thirteen families, I believe. Who knows what it would be,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: whether it would just be yeah, enough family or something
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: else entirely, who knows, But yeah, I believe that they
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: would show us and they let us think a certain
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: amount of tion, but then it stopped at a certain time,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: you know, a certain level. There's a bit like the Masons,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the way that they would go up and up and
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: up level of the information. Apparently.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Sabbath team Francism, which goes back to
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: the word Shabbas, which is Saturn. Hence Saturn was the
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Oh was it the sixth day of the week. It
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: was traditionally the day of rest. Was this that I
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: get confused? No, Originally the Sabbath Saturn day, which we
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: call the sixth day of the week. Originally that was
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: the seventh day, the day of rest. Wasn't it the
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: day when Judaism won't pick up anything or do any work,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. But the Sabbath, hence the name sabatizv.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: This this cult leader that came around back in sixteen
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: six six or announced that he was the new Messiah
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: and took a whole load of his following down the
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: dark the dark path, and his name comes out to Saturn. Obviously,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: six sixty six being pertinent because six six is the
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: carbon molecular structure so that's representing material self. People that live,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: you know, for the sex, drugs and rock and roll
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: and think that this is all this existence is all
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: there is, which the celebrities sacrifice their divine outlet, their
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: divine connection. Rather they sacrifice to live in the material.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: They're going to get adoring fans cheering them on stage
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: the rest of the their their their life, feeding their
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: ego massively. But then they're a slave too that system
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: for you know, for the rest of their lives, and
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: the enlightenment journey is then sort of blocked off to them.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: So going back to the cult of Saturn, this black
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: cube worship, going back in ancient mythology that Saturn was
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: our sun before we had the son that we have. Now.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much of this is true or
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: how much is myth, but clearly you get your black rock,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: your black cube, your black stone, you black cube of mecha,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: you black board that we pass out of education with
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: the sign that we've got them. The the in Dudaism,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: wearing the black cube on the head another sign that
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: we've got you as well. Some people that even say
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: the cross is a cube unfolding. But what what I'm
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: getting to is, how does the Cult of Saturn do
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: you think relate to these Thirteen Families?
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: M hmm. Well, I would believe that they are, you know,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: the main main people that are pushing that.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're all fully like signed up to the
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: sort of saboty in doctrine.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, maybe they're the priests that
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: are teaching and getting disciples on for themselves, you know. Yeah, yes,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: they're definitely something to do with that. You know, the
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Thirteen Families is definitely a thing. And I can prove
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: that with that symbolism I mentioned. You know, they wouldn't
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't go to such ends the show that they're
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: part of that if it didn't mean.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: And are the Thirteen Families the Black Nobility? Is that
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: something completely different again?
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: That could be the layer above the Thirteen Families?
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: M hm.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure or I do believe that the
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Black Nobility would be the most powerful person on the planet.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I do believe that, you know, they would much more
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: power than anyone else.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but even Darth Vader answers to the above, doesn't
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: he true? Yeah, it's it's I find all this fascinating.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, truly, truly fascinating. Yeah, I'm not sure whether or
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: not it's true, but apparently everybody reports to NASA. Apparently
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: NASA is the department in the US government, not the A.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: I'd imagine a lot of actors report to NASA, a
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: lot of studio mock up designers. Yeah, well, NASA again
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: another founded on the cult off the back of Jack Parsons.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Couldn't get a rocket into space, humanly impossible, he thought,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: So he went to Thillima, the Alista Crowley's sex and
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: drug cult, and they figured, oh, look, you know, if
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: we can't physically get a rocket into space, maybe there's
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: some way through black magic, through witchcraft that we can match.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Because these guys are obsessed. You know what you're like,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: if you're a rocket scientist, you have one obsession in
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: life is get a rocket into space. I'm not talking
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: low Earth orbit now, I mean, actually, let's go and
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: visit other planets type of thing. Even in the series
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: they made about him, I think it's called Black Dark Angel.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Every now and again, they kept cutting in the Apollo
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: missions trying to make out that Jack Parsons was like
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: the fore runner to go into the Moon, whereas is everybody, well,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: anybody who's anybody knows, No, he joined the Lima because
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: we couldn't go to the moon. That you know, they
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: cleverly dopted it to make it sound like his was
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: the progression that took us to the moon. Was No,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: his was the progression that went, we can't go to
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: the moon, so we're going to go to Thelema to
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: exercise black magic. It's fascinating, well worth for watch that
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: dark angel, but remembering it that you're being gas lit,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: you know, as we are all the time. So out
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: there in the desert you got the rocket scientists meddling
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: with the occult at the same time as the pornographers
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: who were kicked out of Germany by a certain austra
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: and painter and kick and left New York because of
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: the competition they faced. They set up it out there
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: in the desert out west and called their place Hollywood
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: after the magic magic wand again part of the occult.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: So you've got these two extremely in historical terms, important
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: entities meeting in the desert. Oh and well that's where
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: propaganda came. You know, it was all propaganda. Everything that
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: comes out of it, out of NASA and out Hollywood's
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: all propaganda and gaslightes so fascinating. I mean, it's even
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: interesting the checkerboard on the side of the rocket. People
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: will tell you, oh, that's for scientific analysis, and well,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: yeah possibly. Yeah.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Where is it that the Prime Minister's residence is the
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: country residence called the checkers Oh yeah.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. So your story has been you've
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: done a lot of traveling.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love a bit of traveling. When I was young,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I used to landscape firm, and you know, they used
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: to say, look, we're quite in the winter, so if
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: you want to do it. So I used to work
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: my bollocks off all the way through the summer. I'd
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: save as much money as I possibly could, and then
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: just you off, me and a friend or me and
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: my own occasionally for a few months to go and
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: see a new bit of the world.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: And yeah, what year would this have been about?
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: I guess I started around ninety six, ninety eight, somewhere
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: around there, and then yeah, it went most years right
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: up till two thousand and five, two thousand and six.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I carried on traveling after that, but not as much. Unfortunately.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Did you find in the end that you'd sort not
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: seen too much of it? But it all started to
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: become a bit is pass the right word? Yeah?
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to keep going and go in and
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: finding more and more and seeing new and more new,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: and yeah.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah got you. I was in I think French Guiana,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: it might have been Guyana actually living like in the ghetto,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: cheapest part of town, the cheapest room. I could get right,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: smoking crack and thinking, do you know what it might
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: be about time too? You know when when when it
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: just becomes that. Yeah, I was a bit of a
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: sort of talk. When I say tourists, I want to
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: say the D word with it, but you know what
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I mean. I was always like looking for some form
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: of escapism, and I think I think it was when
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: I got into Low that I just it was the
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: same old, same old roller, booked into the booked into
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: a backpacker as you do, got your passport and your
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: v he's a stamped and all that changing money. And
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I guess what I'm trying to say is solid years
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: of traveling. I just started to take it for granted,
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: you know, started to take it and I just thought, right, this,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: this is time to knock it on the head for
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: a bit, not forever. But what was.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: That after you were in the army.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was so quick quick. I'd seen quite
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of the world in the military. I was
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: quite quite lucky in that respect. Even our first leave
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: after the Northern Ireland Conflict, me and my mate bought
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: flights to New York and went stay with his uncle
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: on Fifth Avenue. We had dinner twice on top of
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: the World Trade Center, booked a limousine to come and
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: pick us up, and everything with these girls we met
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: from Texas. I was on an aircraft carrier in the
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Marines for a while, so I got to see me
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: sell to Barbados once, which is just you know, someone
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: summed it up the other day they say, Chris, you
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: are lads from working class backgrounds, weren't you that just
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: found yourself in Paris like that, That is exactly what
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: happened to, you know, which just plays me and never
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: ever could have could have imagined. And and then I
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: in my leave in the Marines, Robide, I was an exploitist,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: you could say. Once I found out you could get
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: cheap flights through the military pretty much, loads of exotic play.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, right, all my mates are going to go
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Hong Kong, for Christmas. They all shied out of it.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: I thought, screw you, I'll go on my own. I
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: went to Hong Kong. I was in the New Year
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: crush when forty people were crushed to death in Langquaifong.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: I was there that year. Yeah, what happened? I went.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I left just before.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll come back and talk about that. The Yip
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Kifoon Chinese gangster was running up and down the street
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: with his gang with AK forty seven's attacking, robbing a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: jewelry store right when I was there. I then got
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: on a flight to go to Manila because my mate
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: I thought Manila sounded a bit exhausted, a bit riskue flight.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: I missed the flight and said anywhere else. So they said,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: we've got one going to Bangkok in twenty minutes, and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: so get me on that. I've heard about. One night
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: in Bangkok went there. Taxi drivers like, sir, where's your hotels?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: And I don't want a hotel. I want to go drinking.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: He was like, no, sir, you must have a hotel.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, take me where are the bar? And
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: that was it. I met a mega bloke called Rob
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: from South Africa. We had we got in a bar
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: fight in the first bar because they tried ripping us off.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Me and a the bouncer were scrapping he broke my nose.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: So the owner of the bar met us at the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: hospital and apologize profusely. Give us one night out in Bangkok,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: all on him, all on him, couple of escorts to
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: kind of, you know, show us around. It was phenomenal.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: First place he took us was a boy bar. This
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: is Bangkok, thirty five years ago. I can tell you
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: when I say boy bar, I'll let your imagination what.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know why they took us in there. They
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: seemed to think we'd want to go, and I'm sort
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: of quite glad they did, because I'd never seen anything
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: like that on this planet. Was what was going on
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: in there was like, Wow, we're quite naive, aren't we?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: In little England? And then I got back from there,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: got the train up to China. So I went into
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: communist China as a British serviceman. I didn't even know
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: if I'd get in, but I got across the border
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: mazing to time. Went to Macau and that was how
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: I would live rob. I did the same with same
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: with Canada. I just traveled all around Canada, Seattle and
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: into Alaska, all for six a sixty quid flight and
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: a thirty quid higher sixty quid higher car for the week,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: because in America you just got to show your idea
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: and anyway. Left to live in Hong Kong to run
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: a business. I started within about seven months. I was
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: chronically addicted to crystal meth and homeless, working for the
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: fourteen K in a club in Wan Chai. It's from
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: the Red Light Ganglan nightclub district. Whilst phasing in and
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: out of clinical psychosis, I was really mentally unwell and
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: I brought that back to the UK with me, that malaise.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the right world. I was
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: just I was in a very dark place for eighty
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: months and then I have my epiphany. I literally enlightenment
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: came to me as it does in your darkest, darkest
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: moment if you if you're recept it. And off the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: back of that, I took a globe, spun it around,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: marked on it everywhere. I was going to go eighty
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: six countries across all seven continents. I'll become an Antarctic explorer,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: qualified skydiver, qualified pilot advanced scuba you know, scuba diver,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: and that was that. But to start I went to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: work with I did a firewalk to raise money to
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: study to become a volunteered instructor in postwar Mozambique, working
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: the street kids. It was just just the most amazing
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: year year at six months in Norway training at this
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: international school on top of a mountain. I was teaching
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: everyone skiing and building snowcaves and all this stuffies insane learning.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Our Portuguese went to Mozambique, dodging the land mines there
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: and looking at all the bullet holes in every building
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: because they just come at you know, yet another war.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: And that was just you know, to come from such
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: a dark place to be around those beautiful kids who
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: had nothing, but they were just delightful and they fucking
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: love They love me because I was mental and I
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: didn't conform to any you know, kind of what you'd
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: think a teacher would be. And then they asked me
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: if I the organization said, would you drive a bus
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: to India and back from Norway to write articles about
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: people living in poverty. So seventeen of us, I think
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: we started with six of us. We came back with
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: I drove that old British Land school coach all across
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: the deserts It's into Deli, through all the crowded traffic.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: It was just absolutely amazing. Went to visit my brother
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: in Thailand, then went back, got back on the bus,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: drove all the way back to Norway, breaking down almost
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: every single day. Then I traveled the world, went to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: all these places, like I said that I'd never been.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: I traveled every single country in North, Central and South
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: America on the mainland and many of the islands, did
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: a book, signing on a Great Wall of China, Australia,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: New Zealand, diving on a barrier Reef, Malaysia, Singapore, Kuala Lumper,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: all these places, and yeah, and then eventually it just
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: started to become a bit same old, same at you know,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: very very blessed. But it was time to settle down.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: So I started studying and got into my studies. That
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: led me into a series of jobs which I sort
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: of saw what having a job was like. You know,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: the Marines isn't perfect, but nor is working in Civy
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Street is it. You know, there's just so much human
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: shit going on there that it wasn't that one for me.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: So after falling out with like a second lot of employers,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: and they all kept having to pay me off because
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: there's such knob heads they and they kept chucking the
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: book at me for stuff. It wasn't I done anything.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: It's just I don't conform and they couldn't like get
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: an angle on that, so they I just they'd end
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: up having to pay me like twelve pounds to leave
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: and all this, I thought, right, screw you, I'm going
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: to write that book I've always been meaning to. And yeah,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: I wrote Eating Smoke. It's up there, folks, look up there.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: It's my first best selling, international best selling book. Which
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: I say that because you remember, I was chronically addicted
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: to drugs and mentally unwell. Everyone said I was a
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: fucking loser, and you know a lot of people didn't
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: want nothing to do with me, which is fine. I
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: don't judge them for it, but never judge a person
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: is you know, you don't know what they're capable of.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: And so yeah, that's that, mate. And then I got
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: into adventure in and I just started to just do
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: extreme stuff, like rand the length of the country and
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: ran across the Sahara and the marathon disciblers and me
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: and me buddy Louis road across the Atlantic last year,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: and this year is going to be summer in Mount Everest.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: So I ask you about Everest. That sounds awesome. Maybe
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: tell us about that then? What?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very kind you ask me. Basically, I try and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: do one extreme stunt every year to draw attention to
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: veterans' mental health. In particular, I'm noticing how many veterans
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: are committing suicide. It's an awful lot. Some people call
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: it an epidemic. And I'm noticing what's not being said,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: and what's not being said is how many of us
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: joined up with childhood trauma, or joined up because of
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: an absence or an overbearing father, or a service father
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: that never you know, was always there for his lads,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: but was never there for you know, this sort of stuff.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: And add to that the ego trip that you have
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: when you join the military in this big head you
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: carry for years thinking you're a bit special, when really
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: you're not. I is you know, I mean, everyone's special,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: but no one's more special than anyone else you leave.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Combine that with probably some incidents that are quite serious
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: that civilians don't often get to experience. Not all civilians.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Some experienced horrific car crashes, don't they, or love ones
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: dying of awful stuff like we discussed. But in the military,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: you know, you really can see some horrific stuff or whatever.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: And people leave rob and they just go into this
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: downward spiral where they start self medicating with drugs or
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: alcohol because Civy three, ain't you know, they realize that
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: they're just a normal person struggling along. Their inferiority complex
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: comes up from you know, damaged childhood. I told you
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: you're not good, told you you know. And they end
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: up on a drunken night thinkings, you know what, I'm
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: not loved at all, and my I'm better, I'm better
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: out of it. And the sad thing is, you know
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: one of my mates that killed him, so I've had
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: four four kids?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: What what?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: What? What? What? How did you know? And there's no
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: communication there. I could have just chatted with him and gone, mate,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: look what it is you. You probably don't realize this,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: but I'm telling you you you've got complex PTSD. It's
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: called complex because it starts for the most part in childhood,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: not always, but you know, if you look at the
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: reasons why did you join the military, what why did
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: you join the toughest military infantry course out there? Probably
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: to prove yourself, wouldn't it. Well, why no one needs
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: to prove themselves to you know that that's a trauma
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: based response. And I wouldn't have gone that deep with
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: my mate, but what I would have let him know is, look,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: you don't have compared to no one, you're massively loved.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: You know, if you were to disappear tomorrow, you don't
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: you have no idea how many thousands of people would
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: be so upset and so much wishing you've just gone
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: to stay with them and you know, out of beer
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: or whatever. So this is kind of my mantra foreverest
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: rob is let's let's let's let's talk about this, you know,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: stop people killing themselves and start talking why are they
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: in pain? Why are they hurting? And of course for
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: the charities they want everyone to believe. It's like a
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Rambo movie that it's all like help for heroes and
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: walking wounded and what they's doing. It's given the wrong
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: message to people. It's yes, a few of us served
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: in combat. Statistically, not very many service person are actually
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: go into conflict. Then when we're there for people like me,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: things will go and you know, Bang when I served
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: on the front line, said this like a million times,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: but chap BEI me got shot three times. But that
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: was my job. Rob, that didn't you know it sounds crazy.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: I didn't bother me in any ways slight. I didn't.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't have any trauma from it. That was my job.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: You know. I ripped his flat jacket off. Fortunately I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: couldn't find any els, so this jacket had done its
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: done its job, and we went back on patrol. We
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: were rule marines. That that was our job. Now I
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: do appreciate some people have moral injury. They get involved
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: in stuff in conflict that's really not very pretty, or
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: they do stuff that later is really hard to live.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Where it says in scripture, thou shalt not kill for
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: a reason. You know, it's hard to come back.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: It's got be very damaging.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of healing work and he
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: needs to be done there. But it can be done,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: and the past doesn't. It is you can't be held
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: responsible for something that you didn't know. And what are
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: young squatti's you know, military they don't know very much,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: rob do they They used and abuse and sent into
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: these conflicts, telling them that that will make you a man,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: not being told that No, Actually, that's going to give
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: you years of grief. Geezer if you survive it. More
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: people drank himself to death after the Falklands than were
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: killed in the Falkland. I mean a lot more people,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: a lot more. Why because it's compounded trauma on top
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: of the childhoods already. So sorry, I'm going on a bit,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: but my point is if we just make out that
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: people struggle with their mental health just because they've been
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: in combat, that's we're not telling the truth. And it
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: puts off every person out there that hasn't been, including
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: civilians who the number of people that say, hey, Chris,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: you know I never served, but you know I think
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: I've got as if like they have to be ashamed
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: that they're traumatized. They might they might have had cigarettes
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: stubbed une out stubbed out on them as a kid.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: That's way worse than getting blown up in a land
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: rover in Afghanistan. Your child, for Christ's sake, your main caregiver,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: a parent, has committed the ultimate active evil on you,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: at least when you're adults and say, well, I decided
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: to be here, and that enemy is just giving back
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: as good as like we're giving them, aren't they. You know,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: So all of this, none of this has talked about, Robert.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's a rare conversation, this one. So I
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: thank you again for letting let me speak. But that's
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: my thing is to say, look, let's not stop making
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: PTSD to be like a Rambo movie. You know, first blood.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: It trauma affects everyone. And while we let these charities
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: make out, the reason they do it is they get
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: massive donations off the back of the public thinking this
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: is all about people being heroes and going to defend
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: our great net, whereas we know it, that's just a lie.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: And so people that haven't been in combat, veterans that
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: are seriously struggling their mental health because of complex BTSD
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: from childhood compounded by adulthood events in adulthood, they're going, well, look,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: I can't come and ask these charities through because I
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: didn't even like serving combat or are served. But I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: had an easy tour. And it's all wrong, rob It's
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: just wrong. You know, it's wrong. We need to stop
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: that everyone has the right to be, to have their
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: trauma and to heal from it. And these these you know,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: parasitic entities out there that are basically paying their wages
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: off the back of selling the public on it. On
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: yet another fucking walleye you know, and yeah, to.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: Be very good at helping PTSD and get rid of troma.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: What is mate?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: MDMA is one of them.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen, I saw a very good program on
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: the therapeutic use of it. Friends at home, We are
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: not condoning any kind of alternative therapies, and how dare we?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: But of course we can discuss it, can I just
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: say rob before we do? Friends, if you want to
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: chip in five quid towards my expenses cost an awful
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: lot of money to summit every so I know I
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: get a great experience out of it as well. But
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: if you'd like to help me shine a light for
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: these struggling veterans, there's a link below in the comments
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: section or in the description box, and I'll thank you
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: from the bottom of my heart.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: Oh with my channels as well, Chris, thank yeah, appreciate
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: people doing that sort of stuff, So thanks.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: So sorry. I just want to get back to the traveling,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: because I know I took that, it took over that.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: But it's you've never met me before, rob of you
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: so it's not all so your turn. We where have
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: you enjoyed traveling?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Oh? So, first time I went away basically when I
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: was a kid, it was all about smoking weed. I
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: used to love smoking weed. It was an escapism thing
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: from losing my mum, you know. So, yeah, places like
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Thailand and India and Nepal and those sort of places.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Did you ever come across. We've got to be careful
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: what we say here. But there's there's like this product
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: that you get around about, like you can get it
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: in Delhi actually, but that that region that's no tourists
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: for growing a certain plant.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: And it actually looks like horseshit, yes, and you buy
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: it as that and then what you do is you
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: pick lumps up, spit on it and rub it and
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: it actually condenses down into the squidgy the squidgy stuff.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Are you familiar with that?
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, call it so again, Baris, I think that's it.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Taris barras d h A r A s.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: H Taris Okay, Yeah.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, me and my friend would literally go the
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: world over looking for those types of things. We turned
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: up in Agra. Actually it was overlooking the taj Mahal
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: and this cafe and your man comes up to him
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: and were called a lastie. Also lastie. He goes, oh, well,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: it's a milkshake with that, you know, that herb that
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: they ate. Were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds good. Yeah,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: we had a lassie and didn't see much of the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: rest of the day.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Don't they call him a bang lassie Lastie?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, bang last Yeah.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Have you run in the downside of being a drug tourist,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: because you can run into quite a lot of I
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: tell anyone when you travel two rules. Don't get caught
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: by in that stuff and don't go on the beach
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: at night. Needless to say, you know, I've managed to
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: break those rules really well. But did you get into
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: any troubles?
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Rob And yeah, we got into a bit of mischief.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: Let's say. Yeah, I don't know if you would want
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: to hear about them, but.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's that's I exactly want to hear about it.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Okay. So yeah, I mean one of the nights, it
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: was New Year's evening. It was Kosai and we've gone out,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: had a brazy time. Got home at four or five
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, not too far away from the sunrising.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: So I thought to myself, I'm just going to roll
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: up a couple of cigarettes, turbal cigarettes, let's say, and
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: go down and stick by the beach there, wait for
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: the sun to come up and see, well what it was.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: It was quite funny looking back on it, because the
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: sun had just started to come up, and I realized
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: that I'd nearly sat on some guy that was sleeping
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: on a sunlounger, and literally I was sitting on the
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: sun lounger next to him having a smoke, watched the
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: god down from behind me, had a w in the sea,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: and I could see him sniff in the air. Anyway,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: he wandered off, and the next thing I could hear
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: was this funny noise with brakes going well, and I
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: really I was sitting there thinking, what on earth is
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: that noise? Well, it's coming closer to me, and then
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: I realized it's a police radio. Straight Away, I'm on
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  Speaker 1: my heels, I'm up. I'm legging it up the beach,
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  Speaker 1: keeping close to the to the top of the beach,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: and as soon as I saw a footpath, I just
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: stopped running and walked up the footpath that was gone.
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  Speaker 1: But as I was walking away, I realized that the
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: old bill would have got down to the beach there
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: and noticed your man asleep on the on the and
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: it was probably him that got the shape down unfortunately,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: And I've managed to get away, but yeah, I had.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: I had numerous close calls like that, unfortunately. But you see,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: it's interesting. I've always been very drawn to that plant,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: and you know what I've realized is that that is
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: one of the most amazing plants, like reallyant.
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  Speaker 2: I think the one of the things that people miss
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: here though, is when you smoke it, you're hit in
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: the back of your throat with carbon essentially, and what
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: what the big sea tends to do is exploits the
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: weakest part of your body. So I mean, for example,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: Bob Marley had a toe injury from football, and I
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: think that's where he first got it. I might I
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: might have got that a bit wrong, but so a
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of long term smokers get it
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: in the throat m h. And yet ironically, if you
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  Speaker 2: eat stuff and I'm not suggesting people, do you it's
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  Speaker 2: really alkaline because it's a plant. It's a green green,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: a green plant. So when I see people trying to
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: justify their smoking habit is like medicinal, I'm kind of like,
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  Speaker 2: you can't really really have it both ways, I'm afraid.
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  Speaker 1: No, Sadly, it doesn't do much medicinally to us at all.
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  Speaker 1: When we it it would distract from our health much
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  Speaker 1: more than it would actually badly.
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  Speaker 2: And just looking at a photo, we've got to be
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: a little bit careful what we say here. But this
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: is someone I know, you know, I'm just showing them
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  Speaker 2: before and after photos. Friends, you can look at that
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: picture and work out what's going on, can't you. This
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: is the before obviously, and this is the after. How
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: did that come about? Mate?
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  Speaker 1: That was like gashed head? Is that the one?
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: No, it's the woman with blonde hair.
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  Speaker 1: Woman, she's got her lip.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Basically what that is is the big one on us,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: your skin basically growing out of control, getting bigger and
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. We used a mix of four different herbs,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: placed it on there, and literally over the next two weeks,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: the whole tumor ejected from her face and then over
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: the next two weeks get filled in. So basically, you know,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: using four different herbs and extract waste from your straight
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: out of your body. You know, that stuff is just
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: absolutely mind blowing. It's basically surgery that does. It aptulates
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: anything that shouldn't be there. But the beauty of that
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: stuff as well is that if it should be there,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: it won't do anything. You know, it's quite amazing stuff.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: But literally, yeah, just encapsulated the area that shouldn't be there,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: pulled it out of a body, and then it regrewed
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: the rest of the stuff. So building the hole behind
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: absolutely fascinating stuff. And that stuff costs hardly anything twenty
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: quid or the last few probably years.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hm, yes, And have you had many incidences like this?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: A few here? I mean I've used that on myself
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: numerous different times on different different places of my boomers.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: That sort of thing. Moles that are trying to get
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: a little bit funny, it go and red you just
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: pops on of that stuff. It pulls all of the
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: nasties from behind the mole, and generally the mole even
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: stays there, which is fascinating. You know, that stuff is
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: absolutely mind blowing.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we should. We do need to say I'm
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: just thinking of the platform here, Rob, apologies, but do
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: need to say that this is your perception of what
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: is taking place. Yes, absolutely, so we're not we're not
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: suggesting folks. Obviously your first port a call would be
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: your gepit, your general practitioner. A. Yeah, sorry mate, If it's.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: We have to do it right, it's a sad thing. Well,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: it's a shame, but we do. Unfortunately, Yeah, what what
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: we do? What we'll do, though, you can come over
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: to our locals platform, friends, if you're not on our
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: locals it's our free speech platform. Rob's going to come
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: over there and give a talk all about all about it.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: Or in fact, we can actually do that now, Rob,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: if you've got time. Yeah, we've chatted for we're coming.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: Up for the two hour mark or thereabout. So there's
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: a lot for people to be listening to. Just one
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: more thing. Your favorite place that you've traveled.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, how could I answer that one? I think it
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: probably would be India actually, just for the you know,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: the change is the scenery. You know, right up the
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: top of India, you've got the mountainous areas, right down
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: you've got the beautiful beaches and you know, paradise type places.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: Have you been in Kashmir. It's supposed to be beautiful.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Haven't the first time I went there. I really wanted
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: to go there, but it kicked off really badly. I
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: was pleased to go up into into Nepal because shortly
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: after we left there was when the royal family all
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: got picked off. I'm there as well. Wow. I went
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: to up to Pokera and did a little bit of
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: traveling around that area. That is the most place. The
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: people in the poor fabulous. I think if it was
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: just for the people, it had been Nepal. But yeah,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: India is always going to have a special place in
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: my heart just because it's so fabulous, so cheap. You know,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: the people are amazing, although the poverty is you know,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: heart wrench in there. Yeah. Absolutely, Bombay and those types
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: of places. Yeah, the real eye opener. But it you were,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: you know, separate way of looking at life, you know, thinking, actually,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: my life's pretty good. You know, you come home you
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: see all of the people in England being miserable and
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: you know, moaning about their jobs and the fact that
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: yeah they haven't had a new car in three years
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: or what it is that they're moaning about. And then
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: you cast your the people that live in Bombay and
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Agro for instance.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: You know, and you've done some adventure sports.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, done a bit of skiing, a bit of snowboarding,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: white water often that sort of stuff.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: You've done some skydiving or did I miss spydive in
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: so I did.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: I did a couple of tandems when I was in
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: Australia and then I did the first part of the
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: AIRFF in the UK. That was a bit of a
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: shame because I had to go there for three days
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: before I actually got to jump. The weather is so
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: bad guydiving here. I wish that I'd have just paid
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: for the whole thing outright and gone to Spain where
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit nicer weather, because then you're guarantee
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: the jumps or old course in no time.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Matt, I'm having a just me waistband there because
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: it's I've got like this back support that I've been
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: wearing because my back's been really sore from all the
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: training for Everest that I've been doing.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: So I'll give you some of my cream and to
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: send me your address. I'll send youself.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I just wanted to explain why I'm fiddling
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: with myself below the desk here. It won't be the
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: first time, but probably won't be the last either.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Sort of deciding where's the best place that you've been.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: I love Australia as well. Australia is great.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: Have you ever been to Belize?
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: The leaves?
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: No, Yeah, the islands off believe Ky Corker. I think
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: it's cool. It's one of them. Just stunning, with the
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: most amazing nowational park off in the sea. I mean,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: you know, Maritime National Park. Just just if you dive in,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: like Northern Australia, you don't get to see a lot
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: because all the tourist boats all go to the same place,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: all this coral gets stamped to death, all the fish leave.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: But in oh sorry, in Belize they've got the big
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: Blue Hole which is just incredible, incredible to dive in there.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: You're going to see lots of sharks. Yeah, like bull
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: sharks as well.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I've got a lot of sharks you're blessed to Yeah, divers.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, quite an experience.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love it, love it.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: Probably it's calmer when you're under the water, I think
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: than when you watch videos of it. I think, yeah amazing.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: All right, Rob, Right, let's go friends. We're going to
• 1:28:55
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• 1:28:57
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• 1:29:01
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• 1:29:04
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• 1:29:07
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• 1:29:11
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• 1:29:14
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  Speaker 2: Can't do this without you. Thank you, Rob. This has
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: been a great chat. Like I said, thanks for letting
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: me kind of offload a bit here because it's I'm
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: a little bit I'm on a bit of Illuminati overload
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: at the minute, to be honest, because I've been going
• 1:29:55
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• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pleasure make it's been a pleasure chatting to you.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. Well, the first of many hopefully.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like that good. You know, the people like
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: us that can get together and just talk about the
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: things that we've learned and seen. The quicker we're all
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: going to learn is what I think, you know. So
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: the more information that we can chat about is that
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: the other people are going to take and then add
• 1:30:23
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• 1:30:24
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• 1:30:32
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• 1:30:35
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• 1:30:38
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