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I Moved For A Promotion And All I Got Was Anxiety And Frequent Flyer Miles | Episode 408 · Voices for Voices®

• 0:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Hey everyone, it's Justin here at Voices for Voices.
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• 1:26
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• 1:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We hope for a happy, healthy, prosperous 2026.
• 1:46
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And let's get rolling with the show.
• 1:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Burnout is a topic that gets a lot of a lot of airplay for good reason.
• 2:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We find ourselves minds racing, to-do list, and seemingly not enough time to do everything, right?
• 2:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There's you know, day to day, there's 24 hours in a day, we need a portion of that of the rest, uh, to recharge our body.
• 2:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um and so when we when we look at our to-do list of okay, what do I have to do?
• 2:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know, everything from you know, setting our alarm, right?
• 2:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we we set our alarm however we do that, uh, some on our phones, some other ways.
• 2:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, but there's a reason we set our alarm when we set it, because in in reality, uh we we want to make sure that whatever we need to be awake for, uh, that we're gonna be awake.
• 3:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we need that alarm.
• 3:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And sometimes with these uh to-do lists and these uh competing expectations from literally everybody.
• 3:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Everybody just I think just expects uh things to get done.
• 3:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we'll get in we'll get into a a pretty pretty good example here.
• 3:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh so again, our our minds can only process a certain amount of information a day before it's rendered uh tired, um, you know, taking a time out for a period of time, maybe the rest of the night, rest of the day, just all depends, and that can lead to fatigue and tiredness.
• 4:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I know I've been at different jobs where I would be leaving work because I felt an expectation that I had to stay either longer than my boss or longer than anybody else on my team.
• 4:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so there's these unwritten rules that sometimes our mind plays these tricks on us, and so there's been times and that's occurred, and then kind of on that drive home, or one of my jobs, it was my walk home, that I live very close to where I was working.
• 4:59
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I was already dreading going into work the next day because of how I was feeling.
• 5:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm like, I don't have I don't have energy, like yeah, I the weather's great, I should be able to go for a swim, uh, work out.
• 5:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh and I I just didn't have the energy.
• 5:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And literally I would go grab a shower some days after work, and then I'd grab something to eat, and because I want I I wanted to stay longer than my local team, because when sometimes you work with companies you know in different time zones, and so my my main manager was in another country that was, I think, seven, seven, eight hours away, six, seven hours away, or six hours ahead, beg your pardon.
• 6:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, so by the time I was leaving work, it was late, you know, midnight, 1 a.m.
• 6:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: their time.
• 6:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And and so that was part of it too, that when I came in the next day, I knew I was going to get bombarded with all the things that my boss, who had pretty much a almost a full day, you know, sending assignments and projects my way.
• 6:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And it just it just wore on me.
• 6:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh I guess I wasn't ready for that that type of work.
• 7:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I mean, when it when it all comes down to it, I was chasing a title, um, not like a championship, but you know, you you start out, and I never was had an internship.
• 7:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I that's one of the areas I I would uh if I was able to go back that I would have liked to have had an internship prior to uh the the workforce, but I didn't.
• 7:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's okay.
• 7:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh and it just got real hectic.
• 7:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It was not at all really what I expected, and so I was again chasing the title, you know, the intern, analyst one, analyst two, analyst three, senior analyst, uh specialist, whatever, you know, these titles they just go up, and with the thought of like, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna be paid more money every every run I go up.
• 8:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So every title, every promotion.
• 8:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so that's what a lot of people and uh when I when I was in a in the corporate space, that was the that was the thing.
• 8:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It was I feel like I'm working at a you know level uh you know one or two above where I'm at, and I'm not getting notice, I'm not getting a notoriety, and and so I uh it just was difficult, very, very difficult for me, uh, for a lot of reasons.
• 8:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh because you know I I'd gone through life and I a lot of our loyal listeners and viewers, you know, I'm trying to, I I've gone trying to prove myself, you know, whether that's in school, whether that's at work, whatever that may be.
• 9:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so I found myself again chasing titles, and it took me a thousand miles away from where I grew up, and and I basically went from a job that it was pretty easy going, pretty casual.
• 9:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: The work wasn't like I didn't find myself having to work a bunch of extra hours or to wonder, you know, work with all these different individuals from different time zones because that was new to me.
• 9:59
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It was something that I wanted, uh, because I I took uh two uh international business courses, one in my undergrad and one in my graduate.
• 10:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That that's what I I wanted because I I felt like I was going to be able to do you know some traveling around the world too by working in a in a position at a company uh that again, I could do some traveling on the corporate you know expense.
• 10:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And that's what this one job I'm referring to.
• 10:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh so I left kind of like the easy gone, and yeah, I was upset or frustrated with the pay and that there wasn't a true uh promotion plan or succession planning.
• 10:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so I got frustrated because I'm like, I just got my MBA, my master's of business, master's in business administration.
• 11:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um, and there are some quite a few of people that I went to school with for my masters who are getting promotions after finishing their masters, and so there was some of that, and I again I was comparing myself to others, and like, well, he's getting this, and he and she's getting this, and here I am, and it's just like okay.
• 11:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Now the great majority of the schooling was uh was paid for, so I shouldn't have been as complaining as I was as I look back at at things now.
• 11:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh so I went from kind of easy going to uh chasing titles, chasing money, and all I found myself was uh pretty much miserable, pretty much miserable.
• 12:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um my wife now we had just started dating.
• 12:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Might have been within a few months of me taking a job, so of course there was that.
• 12:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I was like, uh again, I thought I knew I thought I thought I knew all the answers.
• 12:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I thought I knew what was what was right, and and I was away from church and I was away from you know the spiritualness, and I would just focus on basically a title, more money, and traveling instead of looking at the the things that really do matter more as I'm now in my 40s, and and that is you know, family and helping people.
• 13:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I didn't know that at the time.
• 13:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If I would have um then that would have been that would have been awesome, but I didn't uh you know for various reasons.
• 13:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: A lot of them it was I I did them myself, and so I was you know, my own, like that lit song, my own worst enemy.
• 13:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I I literally was my own worst enemy.
• 13:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so I ended up finding myself so at this job that I'm so I'm away from home.
• 13:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Yeah, I was able to you know do FaceTime and and that, uh but it's not the same, you know.
• 14:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Being able, you know, I the way I had to travel was I had to if it was a direct flight, which the direct flights usually were better coming back, um, because otherwise, see when you only have a weekend and you have let's say half the day on Friday, and you gotta fly two and a half hours each way, you're trying to maximize you know the time where you're going.
• 14:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And that was whereas I was going to my natural home with my family, and and it was my girlfriend at the time, and my wife.
• 14:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so uh I usually ended up having to have a layover, a short layover, uh, but nonetheless, because there was basically two airports, one one was closer to the family, and the other one was, you know, about 45-55 minutes.
• 15:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so coming back, it made, at least in my mind, it made more sense to take a direct flight back.
• 15:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But then going on that Friday, I wanted to be, I wanted to cut that time of travel so that when I was picked up, it was like a 10-minute drive home, uh, my girlfriend's house, now my wife, now my wife's uh parents, and and so there's all this planning, all these extra things that are going on.
• 15:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: My my grandma was not doing well, so there's that added, excuse me, that added I the other times I just sat and cried and because I wasn't able to see her that much, and I ended up I knew she wasn't doing very well, and and the reason why I remember this so so crystal clear is because there was a a pretty big world event that it happened, so I was flying back to where I was living, and you know, to that the job chasing the title and the money and and all that.
• 16:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I was on my way back, so I flew back.
• 16:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I knew my grandma wasn't doing very well.
• 16:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I think it was I think it was one of my friends at the time, his bachelor party.
• 17:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I went to I flew to a different airport, so it was in a different state.
• 17:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So uh so what I ended up doing was I would I flew direct, well, as directly as I could.
• 17:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I had to stop some make a make a stop, um, or the plane had to make a stop, and then I'd switch planes to get to where the bachelor party was at, and which is in a different city and state from where my grandma was at and my family and my girlfriend.
• 17:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So my girlfriend at the time on the way back, like I was still in you know that that party and lifestyle to an extent, and so she came on that Sunday, so she drove an hour and a half, two hours just to basically spend a couple hours with me and then take me to the airport, uh which I look back and myself, I such not a good person at those times.
• 18:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um so I was on my way back on that Sunday, so I was flying back, and I had just landed uh after the the layovers, I just landed back to where the job was where I was living at the time, and I was just walking off the plane, and on the screen, uh TV screens walking through the airport, and we were one of the last planes in it was when uh Osama bin Laden, you know, the raid and and all that happened, and and so that was all on the TVs when we landed.
• 19:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I was traveling, and and so that's how I remember the time.
• 19:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I was on way back, I saw that on TV, and then I got a call from I think it was my dad, and basically said that my my grandma passed away.
• 19:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So then I think it was like a day.
• 19:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I I don't I can't remember, so this was on a Sunday, so I don't remember if I flew back home again.
• 19:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um, you know, for like the services.
• 19:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't remember if I flew back on that Monday or that Tuesday, and any of the event, what what am I trying to say here?
• 19:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And what's this have to do with voices for voices?
• 19:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Well, I had a lot to do with my mental health, and I didn't know it at the time, or didn't want to believe it.
• 20:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I I was chasing things that again.
• 20:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Some things like I guess come with time.
• 20:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't I don't I don't know.
• 20:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: All I know is I wish I would have handled things much differently.
• 20:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh not chased the title and more money and and all that because it ended up being more headaches than anything, to be quite quite frank.
• 20:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh it has nothing, nothing against the people was working with, uh the you know, the different parts of the world where we had offices and and that.
• 20:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm grateful for that time.
• 20:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I did learn a great deal.
• 20:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Got a lot of experience.
• 20:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I was able to do a little bit of traveling.
• 20:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I think there was I think there was like one trip to uh to the offices where where my management was at, and and so that was I mean that was neat.
• 21:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh but at the end of the day, as I as I sit here on this episode and look back, and I haven't looked back that far in quite a long time.
• 21:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um, I've talked about burnout a lot, but I haven't looked back on that specific time.
• 21:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh I think part of the reason why I I even I was starting to have the burnout even whether it's burnout, or I don't even know the right words to say as far as the correct terminology, but it was my first experience with a uh reduction in force.
• 21:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So let's say the company you work at has a hundred people, you come in one day and you leave, and 20 less people are working at the company.
• 22:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So 20 people were said, Hey, thanks for your time.
• 22:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh today's your last day, and we're gonna walk you out to your car.
• 22:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so that had happened while I was at a more casual job.
• 22:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so here I was like, Oh my gosh, I started cutting my expenses, which I heart I didn't have very many, because I was very grateful to be living at my parents' home, and I was able to save.
• 22:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And uh man, I it's just it's hard looking back at all that time.
• 22:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I found out, you know, fast forward, you know, because of the bin Laden raid and and that found out that my grandma passed away, and and that I basically missed an opportunity to see her one last time because I was at this bachelor party, which was in a different city and state, and I now feel like I I should have stayed home, my home home, like where I was from, at least another day, so I could at least saw my grandma one more time, at least uh, but uh it it just it wasn't meant to be that that aspect.
• 23:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so that was just very, very hard.
• 23:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um it was it was, it was just you know, as I'm turning back the clock in my mind, bringing back some of those thoughts and memories, and what I try to reason with myself, and like, yeah, Justin, this is what you want, you know, this company isn't gonna, you know, have a promotion schedule for you in the next couple of years, uh, then if it means that you have to go to a different company, and even if it's over a thousand miles away, where I knew absolutely no one, I knew zero people.
• 24:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So now knowing what I do know, that I'm an introvert, uh if I would have known that at the time, it made a might have made a little bit of a difference in at least a little bit of my thought process because I was thinking like, oh, right, move to a big city, and I and it it ended up being anything but that I mean, I love the you know the sports and watching them, and not that I needed to get season tickets to the games, but I could have gone to a few more games, but I was so stressed day in and day out that there were many coworkers who were like, hey Johnson, you want to go to the go to the game?
• 25:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I just didn't go because I was just so it was it was almost just like I was on edge like 24-7.
• 25:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh and it was oh my gosh, it so when I look back at that time in my life, I guess it called those growing pains or whatever the terms are.
• 26:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If I would have known at that time what my what I feel like my calling is, like what I'm doing here on earth, why I'm still here, man.
• 26:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I would have loved to have known that helping others was at that time, but again, I knew better.
• 26:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I thought I knew better, right?
• 26:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's that whole I'm smarter than everybody else.
• 26:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I was still in that mindset, and man, that was ten, you know, that's sixteen, sixteen year, fifteen, sixteen years ago.
• 27:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's oh my gosh.
• 27:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And yeah, so I I'm just having moment here of like deep reflection oh not even the just the you know we what we feel our you know our life's calling is and what we like to do and what we're meant to do, and but even just I I treated people so badly, so badly, and I know there's I can't go back can't go back and change change the past.
• 28:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I can look back and maybe help help a few of you.
• 28:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Maybe you can pass the message not saying not to just a hundred percent oh you know when when you're growing up, like you're you're molding yourself and with different experiences, and I don't know.
• 28:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I I don't know how I would have known that helping others was as big of a deal to me, and that mental health and mental illness was that big to me, because at that time I wasn't seeking help for it.
• 28:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I wouldn't have I wouldn't have really started on the bandwagon, I guess, or because I wasn't seeking help, so that part wasn't even there to click for me.
• 29:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I mean it's like you know everything happens for a reason, okay.
• 29:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I usually that's what I used to believe.
• 29:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Now I I I know that I'm not in control of I mean, um I'm in control of my you know day to day, but in the bigger sense, I'm not gonna live to be three, four, five, six hundred years old.
• 29:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's just I'm not that power, I don't have that that power to do that.
• 30:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So while I might be able to go, oh well, if I'm still alive, I'll wake up at tomorrow at around this time, and here's what I'll probably eat for breakfast, and and you know, to those extents, we have a little more control, but in the bigger scheme of life, we don't.
• 30:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so I'm I'm happy that I at least got to a part or a point in my life where finding out helping people and voices for voices, and finally getting help myself, and just going through so much adversity, so much of it is my own doing, my own fault, so much of it.
• 31:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And yeah, there's a lot of pages in my in the book of my life that I wish I was able to go and rewrite.
• 31:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm just not able to do that.
• 31:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I I can only just try to do my best to get help get help myself, which I have done.
• 31:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And try my best to be a good parent and spouse.
• 32:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Again, there's there's a lot that I wish I have been able to change over time, and I haven't.
• 32:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I haven't been able to, you know, close my eyes and say, oh, I'm gonna go back to this year and this time frame.
• 32:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like I again, I don't I don't have that, I don't have that capability, so I can't do that.
• 32:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so just putting everything, every ounce of my being, professional-wise, into voices for voices, the show, the organization, the books, the media, current projects, future projects, God willing.
• 33:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That at least got to at least got a got to taste the what it taste, what it feels like to find my calling or why I'm still here on earth.
• 33:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It still to me doesn't explain why so many people so much so much more talented and than I'll ever be why people were taken before me.
• 33:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So that's one of the areas that I have to be grateful that I I had this opportunity to do this.
• 34:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So when I wake up tomorrow, I'm able to continue on with the mission and the vision, and then the day after that I continue on until God says, Okay, Justin, this this has been you know, your your time's up.
• 34:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Yeah, and and so in in my head as I think through this having an opportunity to help people so far away from where I live, where I was born, where I grew up, even so far away geo geography, uh geographical from where that job was to I made uh looking back, I made a very poor decision.
• 35:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But as I sit here today, maybe that's part of what molded me, maybe that's part of what my mental health issues or challenges get to be ramp them up even further.
• 35:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't know.
• 36:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But what I hope this show, this specific show, this specific episode, is that when you're given a chance, or when you feel like you're given a chance, you're doing something that really gets you in the heart, and I know you see me if you're watching, you see me do the you know to you know the uh you know uh show kind of solidarity uh from my heart to yours, you're watching or listening.
• 36:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's because I belong from a geography standpoint, from a family standpoint, even going through all the mental health and then all the mental health challenges that I'm still going through, and I'm still having good days, I'm still having not not not so good days, but it's when when the energy's there and I I try to use the time as wise as I can put together as many shows because when I said I wanna I want to help three billion people, at least over the course of my lifetime and beyond, I meant it.
• 37:46
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So that gets me to where I'm at is doing everything in my being to help.
• 38:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And a high percentage of the help is through my spoken word of events and times in my life where I I've made not great decisions.
• 38:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Some have turned out pretty good, others not so much.
• 38:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But I know that I can't, no matter what, I I can't as much as I want to, I can't go back and fix things in the past you know, said or done.
• 39:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There's so many so many things up to 2017 and even past, I I regret conversations, I regret a lot of things.
• 39:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Even recent things.
• 39:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So it's not like twenty-seventh hit and then voila, um this person that has seen the light.
• 39:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's not what I'm saying.
• 39:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There's things I Again, we all do things that we're we're happy that we did that we tried and and then there's others that not so much.
• 40:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So if you get anything again out of this this show, it this specific episode I'm talking about that when you get to if you get if you get to that point where whatever that is that you're doing where you really feel it in your in your heart and in your mind keep doing it before big big decisions I actually sit down and and think I thought I did that but I there are a lot of times where I haven't where it was well my mind's made up and this this is what I want to do and so I'm gonna do it if I'm given the opportunity and and it's so many of those decisions are what I'm saying that if I would have taken a step back, I mean I probably wasn't even mature enough to do that, as well as not buying into the mental health, my mental health, and my mental illnesses to be diagnosed and see all those things had to had to have happened before I can come out at least have decent on the other side, like I have.
• 42:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we have to you know divide it up and figure out what when and and all that, but if we think about what we'll do if event A or B or C or D would happen, then when event C happens, you've already we've already thought through thought through that, and so we've been able to take some of the emotion out of it, which is where I got caught up.
• 44:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I got caught up in the emotion of oh yeah, I'm gonna move and I'm gonna live in this big city, and I'm only making this extra money, and I'm gonna have this title, and I'm gonna get the travel, and I I didn't think it through.
• 44:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I hadn't thought it through.
• 44:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I was thinking it through as it was happening, and while you can't think every single bit of every single opportunity or not opportunity.
• 44:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If we just think a little bit about what if what if something happens like this?
• 45:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: What what would I do?
• 45:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we would at least be a little bit of less we we would have a little we wouldn't be making those impulse decisions, like when we go to a store, right?
• 45:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: A convenience store, a drug store, a legal drug store.
• 45:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And you see at the cash register, there's all kinds of sugar and candy bars and twizzlers, and you know, and and none of them are sponsoring our show, so I'm not I'm not sharing their names because they're sponsors, they're not, I'm just thinking to myself of those are impulse decisions, right?
• 46:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You're waiting in line, and then you're looking, and then you're like, oh well, it's only a dollar or whatever your currency is.
• 46:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh and then sometimes we're not buying like five, six, seven dollars worth of something that we never we never planned to, it wasn't on the list, but we did it, we bought it.
• 46:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And and so that's that's how I equate, you know, these big life milestone decisions is to be a little bit less impulsive and a little bit more mature.
• 46:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm laughing because I I try to even be mature.
• 46:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't I even at my age and I I'm still a work in progress.
• 47:03
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'll always be a work in progress.
• 47:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So if we can be a little less impulsive when it comes to the big decisions, and I'm talking specifically for this episode about the job and getting caught up in the title being higher than what it was at my current job, making more money than my current job, those types of things.
• 47:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's what I'm I'm getting at.
• 47:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've made a a lot of decisions that I am very happy with.
• 48:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Doesn't mean that everybody is, just means that I'm happy I made you know decisions to get married, have a family, and you know, nothing can take any of that away.
• 48:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Yeah, there can be I don't know.
• 48:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm not in the least bit talking impulsive about that.
• 48:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But thank you for joining us on this show.
• 48:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: This has been this has been uh pretty turning back the clock and then turning it forward.
• 49:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's been a pretty tough episode because there's a lot that I I can do, and there's a lot that it's out of my hands, and then there's even more that's out of my hands that God or for me, God has the plan, and I'm gonna be here until until I'm not, but I'm gonna try to help as many people as humanly possible through as many different forms and formats as possible.
• 50:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So thank you for tuning in.
• 50:07
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• 50:34
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• 50:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're yeah, if you want to watch us on this episode, and then you decide you're listening, uh, we are everywhere, we are everywhere, and that's because we have a whole lot of helping to do a whole lot of it.
• 51:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And there's a quite a quite a bit that I need to do, that I need to help myself and not be so hard on myself at certain times, but can't really can't really change anything.
• 51:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Can only try and and even that a lot of it's too late.
• 51:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I'll just keep helping people until my time's up.
• 51:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But we are we're helping a lot of people again.
• 52:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We talked about a hundred countries, a thousand cities.
• 52:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Why stop there?
• 52:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We should be able to help 300 countries and three thousand cities across the world, and with your help, I know we can do it.
• 52:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I know we can do it.
• 52:31
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• 52:33
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• 52:44
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• 52:52
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• 53:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So it's been Justin Alan Hayes with Voices for Voices.
• 53:11
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• 53:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And until next time, please be a voice for you or somebody in need.
• 53:22
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• 53:24
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• 53:29
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• 53:39
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• 53:40
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