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Speaker 1: a treat. Today, I have probably the largest email I
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Speaker 1: have received since I started this show. Anyways, but I've
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Speaker 1: had some doozies in the past who would like to
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about it's probably like six pages something like that,
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Speaker 1: and uh, and I appreciate it. So we're going to
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Speaker 1: have like a full episode really diving deep into this
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Speaker 1: email that was sent my way and I have not
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Speaker 1: read it. I'd love to be as surprised as everybody
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Speaker 1: is when I dive into these things, because it's spontaneous
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Speaker 1: and it's open and it just kind of feels right
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Speaker 1: to uh, you know, have honest reactions to the things,
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Speaker 1: and uh, who were for a challenge today? I can't wait.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait. But first I have to tell you guys,
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Speaker 1: it is you're experiencing out there. I get so many
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Speaker 1: people say, hey, Hi, do you give me a phone call?
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Speaker 1: I would love it though, but guess what this platform
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Speaker 1: going to dive on into this fabulous email. I am
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Speaker 1: a super duper excited, all right. It starts off Hi Heidi.
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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for being the beacon of
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Speaker 1: light for those of us who have experienced the supernatural,
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Speaker 1: otherworldly and unexplainable phenomena, and for paving the way. Oh,
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Speaker 1: it's really nice of you. Thank you for kicking down
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Speaker 1: the doors of the naysayers and nonbelievers, creating a platform
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Speaker 1: for us to come together and share our experiences and
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Speaker 1: to be taken seriously. I was thrilled to find your
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Speaker 1: podcast and enjoy listening to the many stories of your
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Speaker 1: guests and community followers experiences as well as your own
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Speaker 1: inspirational life story. Wow, thank you so much. That's really
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Speaker 1: kind of you. I'm humbled, honestly, I really feel humbled
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Speaker 1: to have the opportunity to do this, and um, you know,
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Speaker 1: I would absolutely do this all day long. I just
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Speaker 1: really do enjoy it, all right, and to continue it
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Speaker 1: says my life has been greatly influenced and filled with
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Speaker 1: many supernatural unexplainable phenomena and experiences as well, from prophetic dreams,
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Speaker 1: shadow people, guardian angels, demons, a bigfoot to UFOs. Oh
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Speaker 1: you sound like me. I would like to share three
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Speaker 1: of these stories and get your thoughts and feedback, as
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Speaker 1: these three experiences I feel are linked and perhaps tell
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Speaker 1: an even bigger story. Okay. My earliest recollection of supernatural
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Speaker 1: phenomena began when I was four years old, with many
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Speaker 1: unexplainable occurrences to follow. Throughout my life spanning forty five years,
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Speaker 1: I have always had a deep feeling of being connected
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Speaker 1: to another place and existences, a reality or world not tangible,
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Speaker 1: are able to be seen or experienced by others, a
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Speaker 1: place seemingly just on the opposite side of a wall
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Speaker 1: or in the same room, but through an invisible veil. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. I know what you're
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Speaker 1: talking about. A veil, if pulled back, would reveal this
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Speaker 1: world and its inhabitants. Yet unable to find where this
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Speaker 1: veil begins, A knowing deep down at my core that
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Speaker 1: what I felt was true, more true than my experiences
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Speaker 1: in reality, or just as true as though I have
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Speaker 1: existed my entire life with one foot in this world
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Speaker 1: and the other on the other side of the veil.
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Speaker 1: I think, to decipher this whole story, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: break in sometimes and just share up. I used to
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Speaker 1: personally go to bed uh during the daytime because I
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Speaker 1: would be interrupted by UH college roommates and whatnot. Because
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Speaker 1: I would go to sleep and wake up into this
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Speaker 1: other world that I had a hard time leaving. It
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Speaker 1: was like two parallel lives and it still is something
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Speaker 1: I deal with today. So I feel you. It's like
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Speaker 1: you know where am I. I don't know where I'm at.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's kind of wild, so I I totally feel you, okay,
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Speaker 1: and he continues. My earliest recollection of encountering or connecting
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Speaker 1: with this other world occurred when I was four years old,
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, while I was asleep
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Speaker 1: in bed. At that age, every night before my parents
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Speaker 1: would go to bed, either my mom or dad will
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Speaker 1: come into my room to check on me while I slept,
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Speaker 1: perhaps checking to see that I was still breathing, sometimes
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Speaker 1: kissing me on the forehead. I would always keep my
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Speaker 1: eyes closed and pretend I was asleep. For some reason,
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Speaker 1: there was a presence that radiated from them while entering
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Speaker 1: and being in my room at night, a noticeable difference
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Speaker 1: in sound and the quietness of the dark room as
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Speaker 1: energy shifted around the space they occupied. Their presence emitted
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Speaker 1: this energy or feeling of warmth and love that would
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Speaker 1: come over me like a tightly tucked blanket wrapped securely
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Speaker 1: around me. As a child, I became very familiar with
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Speaker 1: this energy. The presence of my parents checking on me
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. As this was routine,
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Speaker 1: and every time I pretended to be asleep, never opening
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Speaker 1: my eyes. This one particular night, I awoke suddenly, startled instantly,
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Speaker 1: sitting up in my bed, looking around my dark room.
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Speaker 1: Something was different and wrong. I remember feeling a quote presence,
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Speaker 1: an unfamiliar energy around me. It was not that recognizable
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Speaker 1: presence of my parents, warmth and love, I knew. It
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Speaker 1: felt as though the tightly tucked blanket had been pulled
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Speaker 1: off of me, along with the security it provided. My
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Speaker 1: waking eyes trying to adjust with only a little light
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Speaker 1: coming from under the window from some outside source, objects
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Speaker 1: in the room could faintly be recognized in the dark.
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Speaker 1: Sitting there in my bed, I scanned my dark room,
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Speaker 1: searching for this presence, with my eyes finally rusting, horrified,
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Speaker 1: fixated on some foreign object lying next to me in
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Speaker 1: the bed. Oh gosh, it was a snake. The snake
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Speaker 1: was only a few inches from my body, stretched out
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Speaker 1: about the length of my leg, and it laid there motionless.
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Speaker 1: It was a very dark black snake with a symbol
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Speaker 1: on its back, a very bright red B. At the time,
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Speaker 1: I had not learned the alphabet, so I wasn't familiar
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Speaker 1: with what the symbol was called that was on the
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Speaker 1: snake's back, as I tried to describe to my parents later,
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Speaker 1: But this for me was some quote clue that would
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Speaker 1: have profound, significant meaning later in my life. I screamed
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Speaker 1: like I had never screamed before, only no sound came
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Speaker 1: from my mouth. Oh gosh. I was afraid to move
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Speaker 1: or jump out of the bed, fearing the snake might
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Speaker 1: attack and bite me. For what felt like hours, I
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Speaker 1: sat there in bed, eyes never leaving the snake, being
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Speaker 1: as still as possible, screaming at the top of my
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Speaker 1: lungs silently. Suddenly, the light came on in my room.
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Speaker 1: I took my gaze off of the snake to the
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Speaker 1: doorway where my dad stood. He had a look on
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Speaker 1: his face I had never seen before. Bewildered, confused, I
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Speaker 1: noticed in that instant that I could now hear myself screaming.
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Speaker 1: My dad trying to calm me down, asking what I
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Speaker 1: was screaming about. I frantically told him there was a
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Speaker 1: snake in my bed. As I looked back down at
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Speaker 1: my bed where the snake had been, it was gone.
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Speaker 1: My dad looked under my bed in my sheets, and
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Speaker 1: the closet all over the room and no snake. After
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Speaker 1: searching my room from top to bottom, he told me
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Speaker 1: to go back to sleep with a frustrated tone. He
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Speaker 1: told me there was nothing in the room. As he
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Speaker 1: slammed off the light and went back to his own
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Speaker 1: room to go back to sleep. Darkness once again filled
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Speaker 1: my room. I didn't feel the unfamiliar presence or energy
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Speaker 1: in the room anymore. However, I was confused on where
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Speaker 1: the snake had gone and why my dad couldn't see it.
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Speaker 1: More terrifying for me at that moment was the realization
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Speaker 1: that my dad did not believe me, and his usual warm,
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Speaker 1: loving energy had not filled the room. Later that year,
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Speaker 1: we moved from that apartment to a new house. Growing
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Speaker 1: up in the new house, the unfamiliar presence that I
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Speaker 1: had experienced years before with the snake of my bed
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Speaker 1: had seemingly followed us to our new home. Being an
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Speaker 1: only child until about the age of ten, it was
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Speaker 1: only my mom, dad, and I living in the house
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Speaker 1: for most of my adolescent years. I grew up in
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Speaker 1: the late seventies early eighties as what was called a
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Speaker 1: latch key kid, meaning I would come home alone after
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Speaker 1: school until my parents would get home from work, usually
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Speaker 1: late in the evening. The unfamiliar presences energy would fill
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Speaker 1: the house in those days, Specifically when I would come
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Speaker 1: home late, I could feel it all around me in
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Speaker 1: the house, as though it was watching me from some
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Speaker 1: scene space, hidden but always present, just behind me or
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Speaker 1: around the corner in another room. If my parents were home,
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Speaker 1: the presence could not be felt. It seemed to stay
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Speaker 1: hidden out of their consciousness, as behind the veil of
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Speaker 1: the other world. Strange things would happen in the house
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Speaker 1: when I was home alone, things I could hear in
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Speaker 1: other rooms, cabinet door slamming, kitchen sink, faucet turning on
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Speaker 1: and off, TV turning on, stereo playing on its own.
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Speaker 1: At first, thinking my parents were home, I would run
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Speaker 1: out of my room to greet them, only to find
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Speaker 1: an empty, quiet, dark house. Horrifically realizing I was still
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Speaker 1: home alone and that the unfamiliar presence must have been
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Speaker 1: what was making all the noises. Terrified of this presence,
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Speaker 1: I got to the point that I would lock myself
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Speaker 1: in my room after getting home from school until my
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Speaker 1: parents would get home, all the while out hearing and
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Speaker 1: feeling this presence outside of my closed bedroom door. I
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Speaker 1: think that's a good spot to end. Well, you know what,
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Speaker 1: you guys got to hear the rest of the story.
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Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi
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Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast
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Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back. You are listening to
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Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I
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Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a AM paranormal podcast network.
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Speaker 1: As mentioned before the break, we have one gigantic email
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Speaker 1: that I truly appreciate and it comes from a breakery.
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Speaker 1: Just so you guys know, I didn't get to mention
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Speaker 1: the name, and uh usually it to the new it then.
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Speaker 1: And I'm reading through this email here for the first
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Speaker 1: time with all of you, and uh, I'm excited to
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Speaker 1: see about all of the different elements that I'm commenting
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Speaker 1: as we go along, because it's a juicy one and uh,
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Speaker 1: let's continue. On many occasions, my parents would get home
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Speaker 1: from work and question me on things like why I
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Speaker 1: had left the TV on in the living room, or
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Speaker 1: why left the water running in the kitchen sink, or
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Speaker 1: why I was leaving doors wide open throughout the house.
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Speaker 1: It's so disturbing. I would explain to them that it
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Speaker 1: wasn't me, that I had not left my room, hinting
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Speaker 1: to them that it must have been someone else or
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Speaker 1: a ghost. Through time, I came to understand that the
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Speaker 1: idea of ghosts to them was ridiculous. It was the
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Speaker 1: only other person in the house besides them, and there
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Speaker 1: was never any evidence of anyone else ever coming into
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Speaker 1: the house. As far as my parents were concerned, I
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Speaker 1: was the one leaving the water running. I was the
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Speaker 1: one leaving the TV and stereo on. I was the
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Speaker 1: one causing the unexplainable things occurring in the house. My
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Speaker 1: parents never believe me, no matter how many times I
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Speaker 1: would tell them it wasn't me. Because of this, I
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Speaker 1: felt so very isolated and very alone. I know that feeling.
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Speaker 1: On most days, the presence would carry on throughout the house,
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Speaker 1: making noises, slamming doors and such as if it lived there,
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Speaker 1: that's terrible. Are they paying rent? They shouldn't be there.
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Speaker 1: That's how I feel. Um. I had grown accustomed to
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Speaker 1: the presence over the years, and this energy looming in
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Speaker 1: the house. As long as I was in my room,
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Speaker 1: I felt safe. It never entered my room, as though
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Speaker 1: my room was my sanctuary, my holy ground, and this
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Speaker 1: pres sense, for some reason wouldn't or couldn't enter. I
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Speaker 1: totally understand that. I think that sometimes we put that
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Speaker 1: barrier out there, but you know, the cracks do show up,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes we gotta shove our foot a little bit
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Speaker 1: harder in their direction. Until one night, oh, here it
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Speaker 1: is already. After several years of it never coming into
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Speaker 1: my room, Oh no, I got chills. It finally did.
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Speaker 1: At the age of ten, I had an experience that
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Speaker 1: changed my perception of what this unknown presence was, and
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Speaker 1: I was able to finally identify and give it a name.
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Speaker 1: Due to a fear of the total darkness at night
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Speaker 1: when I slept, my mom had placed a night light
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Speaker 1: in my room, just beside my bed. I have a
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Speaker 1: creepy feeling on what this might be, anybody anybody else?
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Speaker 1: I do. It put out very dull orange light, but
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Speaker 1: it made me feel a little more secure at night.
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Speaker 1: I had also developed a habit of sleeping with my
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Speaker 1: head under the covers at night. This one night, I
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Speaker 1: again awoke abruptly feeling a presence, a noticeable difference of
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Speaker 1: sound and the quietness of the dark room. As energy
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Speaker 1: shifted around a mass occupying space directly behind me, I
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Speaker 1: briefly thought it was my mom standing behind me, checking
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Speaker 1: on me while I slept. Usually, my mom would turn
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Speaker 1: on the hall light when she would check on me
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Speaker 1: at night, and like always, I pretended to be asleep
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Speaker 1: under the covers. Except this night, I did not see
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Speaker 1: the usual gleam from the hall light coming through the
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Speaker 1: thin sheet covering my head. The room was still very dark.
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Speaker 1: Barely squinting my eyes and seeing only the dim orange
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Speaker 1: glow from the night light coming through the sheets, I
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Speaker 1: could feel this mass shifting closer to me slowly from behind.
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Speaker 1: Still somewhat asleep groggily from under the covers, I softly
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Speaker 1: and inquisitively said mom. There was no answer, utter silence
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Speaker 1: in the room, other than a faint sound of breathing
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Speaker 1: coming from the mass behind me. I did not feel
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Speaker 1: my mom's usual warmth. The energy filling the room was familiar,
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Speaker 1: yet void of love. It was empty, hollow, hopeful, but unsure,
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Speaker 1: thinking maybe it was my dad instead checking on me,
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Speaker 1: though he rarely did that anymore since the snake incident,
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Speaker 1: I again said Mom, this time a little louder and
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Speaker 1: more assertive, but again silence, except for a distinct heavy
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Speaker 1: breathing getting closer to the back of my covered head.
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Speaker 1: Fear immediately set in. Panic gripped my body, feeling as
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Speaker 1: though the blood pumping through my veins instantly drained from
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Speaker 1: my body. I can imagine I was now fully awake
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Speaker 1: and cognizant of the realization that what stood behind me
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Speaker 1: in the dark was not my mom or my dad.
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Speaker 1: Through my squinted eyes, I saw the dim orange glow
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Speaker 1: from the night light fade away cut off as this
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Speaker 1: mass a dark shadow move closer, Hovering now just inches
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Speaker 1: over my covered head. I could feel the pressure of
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Speaker 1: its deep, heavy breathing on the sheet covering my face.
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Speaker 1: I lay there, terrified, rigid, afraid move an incapacitating feeling
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Speaker 1: I hadn't experienced since I was four years old. When
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Speaker 1: my mom would check on me through the night, I
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Speaker 1: would always lay there, still pretending to be asleep. She
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Speaker 1: would always slowly pull the sheets from my covered head,
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Speaker 1: careful not to wake me. She would move her face
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Speaker 1: across to my forehead. Her presence and energy would feel
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Speaker 1: light and loving as she would kiss me, softly, comforting
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Speaker 1: me as she recovered my head and leave the room.
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Speaker 1: This shadow, looming inches over my covered head was motionless.
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Speaker 1: It's breathing slow, controlled. It was as if it wanted
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Speaker 1: me to believe it was my mom. Oh, that's that
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Speaker 1: is a game that they play. Anything dark and evil
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Speaker 1: likes to do that. So you let your guard down,
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Speaker 1: You let your guard down, and this continues. The energy
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Speaker 1: this shadow put off felt dark, heavy, as though it
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Speaker 1: sensed my fear and enjoyed my terror. I had stopped
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Speaker 1: being scared of this entity that resided elusively in my
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Speaker 1: house years ago, believing it could not enter my room
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Speaker 1: or harm me. Now realizing in that instance it had
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Speaker 1: all been a ruse, I gotta say something here too.
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Speaker 1: I have so many people are like, well, it doesn't
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Speaker 1: bother me. You know, it's been going on for years,
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Speaker 1: and you know, I feel this presence. Sure, I've seen
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Speaker 1: shadow people are hat man, but they don't come here.
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Speaker 1: They don't bother me, you know, And I'm like, it's
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Speaker 1: studying you, that's looking for a way in. Trust me.
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Speaker 1: They're very patient and uh yeah, I guess not until
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Speaker 1: people experience that, they don't know what it is that
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Speaker 1: they're in for. If they don't get rid of it
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Speaker 1: ahead of time, Okay, to continue, it says. Thoughts of
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Speaker 1: horrific things this dark shadow is going to do to
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Speaker 1: me flooded my mind in that moment, feeling more terrified
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Speaker 1: of this quote dark presence than I ever had cerebral y.
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Speaker 1: Knowing exactly who this shadowy, dark, deceiving mass was, I
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Speaker 1: felt vulnerable, exposed, alone, hopeless, with this dark shadow standing
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Speaker 1: over me, seemingly mere seconds from ripping the sheets from
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Speaker 1: my covered, defenseless body. I remember thinking I would throw
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Speaker 1: the blankets off and swing wildly at this dark mass
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Speaker 1: to get away long enough to run to my parents room.
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Speaker 1: The dark shadow hunched over me perfectly, still, perhaps basking
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Speaker 1: in the aroma of fear pheromones I was releasing as
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Speaker 1: a result of the dread it was causing me. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I have no doubt at it was doing that, To
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Speaker 1: be honest, they love that stuff and it's disgusting what
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Speaker 1: they do. It's breathing still heavy on my face. As
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Speaker 1: I prayed softly under my breath for God to help me.
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Speaker 1: I counted to three with every emotion going through my consciousness,
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Speaker 1: led mostly by a berserker fear. I threw the covers
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Speaker 1: from my head. There was nothing. The room was empty,
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Speaker 1: quiet and dark, with only a faint orange glow coming
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Speaker 1: from the night light. The energy in the room had
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Speaker 1: lifted and once again was normal. The breathing, along with
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Speaker 1: the dark shadow, was gone. Yeah, they like to play
23:47
Speaker 1: those games, get you to think and question yourself, like
23:50
Speaker 1: I just I know something was here, I know something
23:53
Speaker 1: was here, and then woo nothing like come on, now,
23:58
Speaker 1: I know myself and I trust my senses, and then
24:02
Speaker 1: to have something like that happened, it really just it's
24:05
Speaker 1: perturbing and disturbing. So I totally understand Gregory, and I
24:10
Speaker 1: always say trust your gut instincts, all right. To continue.
24:14
Speaker 1: The unexplainable disturbances in the house ceased over the years,
24:19
Speaker 1: though the presence seemed to loom periodically from behind the veil.
24:25
Speaker 1: Time went on, I got older, became an adult, experiencing
24:29
Speaker 1: many supernatural things through the years, but nothing that ever
24:34
Speaker 1: compared to the night the devil stood over me. As
24:38
Speaker 1: I came to call it, huh until about ten years
24:41
Speaker 1: ago when I again was visited in the middle of
24:45
Speaker 1: the night by a dark, shadowy figure. Mm hmm. This night,
24:52
Speaker 1: similar to my past experiences of waking to a presence
24:56
Speaker 1: in the room. I awoke suddenly to a feeling of
25:00
Speaker 1: someone or something in the room with me, my kindness.
25:06
Speaker 1: You know again, I'm just blown away that somebody like yourself, Gregory,
25:13
Speaker 1: are so aware and so trusting of their experiences. And
25:17
Speaker 1: uh also, you know what's peculiar as a kid being
25:20
Speaker 1: such a soft and light sleeper. That's not common. Kids
25:24
Speaker 1: could sleep through fire alarms because they just have a
25:26
Speaker 1: different sleep pattern. So I would say even with that,
25:29
Speaker 1: there's something to you that is quite different. All right,
25:33
Speaker 1: I'm going to leave it right there because we're gonna
25:34
Speaker 1: get to our next break and there's more to come. Guys.
25:37
Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi
25:40
Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast
25:44
Speaker 1: I AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Stick around, We'll be right back.
26:01
Speaker 1: A welcome back. You are listening to Dark It Comes
26:07
Speaker 1: Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio
26:11
Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast I Am Paranormal Podcast Network. As mentioned,
26:17
Speaker 1: I always love, especially to answer the emails or to
26:21
Speaker 1: read the emails and the stories that you guys are
26:23
Speaker 1: experiencing out there, because this is how we learn. This
26:27
Speaker 1: that's how we grow and know what everybody's perspective is
26:31
Speaker 1: and what it is that happens on the privacy of
26:34
Speaker 1: people's own home. How else will we gather the research,
26:38
Speaker 1: how else will we know what to look for? And
26:41
Speaker 1: I'm sure as I read this very well written I
26:45
Speaker 1: must give it to you Gregory um email telling about
26:49
Speaker 1: his life and experiencing stranger things, and so to continue,
26:55
Speaker 1: He starts with sitting up in my bed, scanning the
26:58
Speaker 1: room for this presence. From the faint light coming through
27:02
Speaker 1: the window in the dark room, I saw an even
27:06
Speaker 1: darker silhouette of a man. Oh I got I really
27:11
Speaker 1: got chills, wearing a hat and a trench coat on
27:16
Speaker 1: the wall next to the closet door, just a few
27:21
Speaker 1: feet from the edge of my bed. I'm I'm not kidding.
27:25
Speaker 1: Every time I hear this, this revelation of what's behind it,
27:29
Speaker 1: especially if it's hat man, I get angry, I get upset,
27:34
Speaker 1: I get the chills, I get all of that. It
27:36
Speaker 1: doesn't change, and it doesn't go away, and it continues.
27:41
Speaker 1: This shadow was distinctly darker than the darkness of the room,
27:46
Speaker 1: and the silhouette was defined. His head seemed to stretch
27:51
Speaker 1: from the ceiling as though there we go. He was
27:57
Speaker 1: seven to eight feet tall. Yeah, yeah, that's that's uh,
28:03
Speaker 1: that's pretty common, believe it or not. I tried clearing
28:07
Speaker 1: sleep from my eyes, confused, trying to understand what I
28:12
Speaker 1: was seeing. This being just stood there, motionless, soundless, seemingly
28:21
Speaker 1: gazing at me with the deepest intent, even though there
28:25
Speaker 1: was no distinct facial features were lucky for you because
28:30
Speaker 1: they're grotesque. It's really really nothing you ever want to experience.
28:35
Speaker 1: Trust me, I was not afraid. Okay, I felt nothing
28:41
Speaker 1: other than curiosity. Now that that's a common common thing,
28:45
Speaker 1: people do say that I wasn't afraid for some reason,
28:48
Speaker 1: and some people would even say, well, I felt like
28:50
Speaker 1: he was protecting me. Perhaps I've heard it all honestly,
28:54
Speaker 1: Guardian Angel, I'm like, Wow, I don't want my Guardian
28:57
Speaker 1: Angel to wear a trench coat and stand in the
28:59
Speaker 1: darkness staring at me without my permission, with glowing red eyes,
29:02
Speaker 1: and God forbid if he smiles. He's got the nastiest
29:05
Speaker 1: teeth you've ever seen on the planet. Sharks have nothing
29:08
Speaker 1: on hat Man's teeth. He's really got issues. Okay, to continue,
29:14
Speaker 1: the presence, didn't feel dark or heavy or display any
29:19
Speaker 1: negative energy. It felt more like a still, soundless nothingness,
29:25
Speaker 1: void like. It was like a shadow, but richly darker
29:30
Speaker 1: in color. Unlike the several shadow figures I had seen
29:35
Speaker 1: in the past the corner of my eyes, this shadow
29:39
Speaker 1: did not dart away or make any attempt to flee
29:42
Speaker 1: from my awareness of its presence, but rather it just
29:47
Speaker 1: lingered there, content with looming over me. And I'll tell you,
29:54
Speaker 1: I'll stop right here. So shadow people, they do tend
29:58
Speaker 1: to dart out of the way. They don't like to
30:00
Speaker 1: be spotted because then I don't know, you can defend
30:02
Speaker 1: yourself right you see him coming, uh, or they may
30:05
Speaker 1: even like charge at you, like they one or the other.
30:08
Speaker 1: They do not like to be spotted there rather weak
30:12
Speaker 1: hat man m hm. He likes to make sure you
30:16
Speaker 1: get a good look like he wants that respect and
30:20
Speaker 1: knowing it's him, it's him again. He wants to be recognized.
30:24
Speaker 1: He wants it to be known he's out there or
30:27
Speaker 1: in there and sticking his fingers in places that he
30:31
Speaker 1: really shouldn't. And sometimes I'm pretty sure he's able to
30:35
Speaker 1: project what he wants on people, fool them, make them
30:39
Speaker 1: feel comfortable, get used to his presence even and uh, yeah,
30:44
Speaker 1: it's a it's he plays games. He does, he really does. Okay,
30:48
Speaker 1: So to continue, it was as though it wanted me
30:52
Speaker 1: to know it was watching me. Oh how funny you
30:55
Speaker 1: say the same thing. It seemed as though it had
30:58
Speaker 1: a secret something it knew that I didn't, and was
31:04
Speaker 1: entertained that I was not privy to this knowledge. Let's
31:08
Speaker 1: see that. What a unique projection, What a unique projection?
31:14
Speaker 1: Like I got something that you don't. I mean, you
31:15
Speaker 1: ever see those cartoons where they're sitting there with their
31:18
Speaker 1: hands covered over something. It's old time cartoons, Like I
31:21
Speaker 1: got something really cool in here, and everybody wants to
31:24
Speaker 1: see it. I think it's an old Tom and Cherry
31:26
Speaker 1: cartoon of seeing that, Like, no, no, it's for me,
31:29
Speaker 1: it's for me. Oh gosh, that thinks he plays okay, continuing.
31:34
Speaker 1: After a couple of minutes of sitting up in my
31:36
Speaker 1: bed just staring at the shadow, trying to come up
31:41
Speaker 1: with a rational explanation for what I was seeing, I
31:45
Speaker 1: turned to look out the bedroom window, thinking maybe I
31:49
Speaker 1: would see something interfering with the light coming from a
31:53
Speaker 1: street light, causing this dark shadow on my wall. When
31:57
Speaker 1: I turned back to face where the shadow had been.
32:01
Speaker 1: It was gone. At the time, I was not aware
32:05
Speaker 1: of the hat man phenomena. Yeah, I know a lot
32:08
Speaker 1: of people still write me and say, I didn't know.
32:11
Speaker 1: This is a thing. I had no idea, And a
32:13
Speaker 1: lot of people think, oh, it's a topa. It's getting
32:15
Speaker 1: put out there in the consciousness of people because they
32:17
Speaker 1: saw it somewhere or unconsciously saw it, and and now
32:20
Speaker 1: it's manifesting. And I'm like, no, I have people writing
32:24
Speaker 1: me saying they saw him once forty years ago. Um, so, yeah,
32:29
Speaker 1: that doesn't fit all right, Continuing, I was only aware
32:33
Speaker 1: of shadow figures, which I had seen frequently through my life.
32:38
Speaker 1: It wasn't until recently that I discovered others had the
32:42
Speaker 1: same experience, with almost the exact same details of witnessing
32:47
Speaker 1: this hat man. Yeah. You know, I don't know if
32:51
Speaker 1: it's always comforting to know others experiences, but I think
32:55
Speaker 1: for the most part it is comforting for me. I
32:59
Speaker 1: look at it as this big whole of oh no,
33:03
Speaker 1: oh no, this is this is spreading and dangerously so,
33:09
Speaker 1: and for me seeing this pattern of this spread. Um,
33:18
Speaker 1: I was told about a shadow people and hat man
33:21
Speaker 1: phenomena as being a warning of time of change. Times.
33:26
Speaker 1: Let's call it that. People say apocalypse, end of the times.
33:30
Speaker 1: You know, this planet isn't going anywhere. There's old planet okay,
33:34
Speaker 1: but it recycles itself and things are shifting, and there
33:37
Speaker 1: are things taking advantage of us unknowing humans. And yeah,
33:42
Speaker 1: there are parallel universes, their innerdimensionals and all of that
33:46
Speaker 1: that are able to peek in, that are able to
33:48
Speaker 1: do things, and some are quite horrific and quite greedy.
33:53
Speaker 1: I mean, think of some of the early colonists and
33:57
Speaker 1: what they did to those who had claimed the land
33:59
Speaker 1: before or them if they had a bigger weapon and
34:02
Speaker 1: had a way to cleanse the land of them, they
34:04
Speaker 1: sure did try, you know. So, um, I don't think
34:08
Speaker 1: we're so different from these dark things and negative things
34:12
Speaker 1: or lower level things try to take advantage and do
34:16
Speaker 1: what they wish, you know. So it's a shame. But
34:20
Speaker 1: my goals are trying to make people aware of these
34:23
Speaker 1: things being out there so they don't get to shoven
34:27
Speaker 1: us off or making us feel as if we have
34:31
Speaker 1: to end ourselves. Yeah. Yeah, these things like to whisper
34:35
Speaker 1: suicidal things unfortunately to people, um or homicidal things and
34:40
Speaker 1: other horrific things or things I don't seem as how
34:45
Speaker 1: can I say, as forceful or awful. It might be
34:48
Speaker 1: a little whisper you pay attention to, like open up
34:51
Speaker 1: the door, huh, and you listen, and then it tries
34:56
Speaker 1: to encourage other things, bigger things and uh. With every
35:00
Speaker 1: time you pay attention, with every listening that you give it,
35:05
Speaker 1: or every bit of attention or energy, it grows and
35:09
Speaker 1: it grows in its influence. And it's nothing that you
35:12
Speaker 1: really want to have. So show it the door, open
35:16
Speaker 1: it for them, and kick them out. How about that? Okay? Alright? Continuing,
35:21
Speaker 1: I've experienced many supernatural phenomena throughout my life, but for me,
35:26
Speaker 1: these three experiences were linked, like the snake, the devil,
35:32
Speaker 1: and the hatman. Sharing my experiences with friends and family
35:36
Speaker 1: through the years, I learned that what I was experiencing
35:40
Speaker 1: wasn't seen as normal, acceptible, or believable. I've always found
35:47
Speaker 1: it difficult to really connect with others freely because no
35:51
Speaker 1: one ever shared or could relate to my same experiences.
35:56
Speaker 1: Trust me, I get it. I get it um, and
35:59
Speaker 1: I love that you're able to see the connection between
36:03
Speaker 1: these three entities. I always tell people close your eyes
36:09
Speaker 1: and is it feeling negative or if it feels positive,
36:12
Speaker 1: then you know, put it in two baskets. Okay, good
36:15
Speaker 1: goes over here, bad goes over there. And it seems
36:19
Speaker 1: to me that these kind of hang in the same gang,
36:23
Speaker 1: if you will um that. Yeah, if they're over on
36:26
Speaker 1: that side of the fence, then I would say that
36:28
Speaker 1: they are not good guys. They do kind of work
36:33
Speaker 1: with each other, But has there ever been uh solidarity
36:37
Speaker 1: and a gang of thieves you know or criminals? Now,
36:40
Speaker 1: they have selfish needs and wants and things that they
36:43
Speaker 1: want to do themselves, so there's no harmony, but they
36:46
Speaker 1: do kind of try to work together in a way
36:49
Speaker 1: to break a person down, to question who they are,
36:52
Speaker 1: and to uh I think differently, to vibe at a
36:57
Speaker 1: different wavelength, anything and everything that could break a person
37:03
Speaker 1: in the direction that isolates them, that makes them not
37:06
Speaker 1: feel as close to their parents, Like hello, your dad
37:09
Speaker 1: wasn't coming in a check in on you anymore, because
37:11
Speaker 1: what was he thinking? You know, like, because it's my
37:13
Speaker 1: kid and he's imagining things. Don't want anything to do
37:16
Speaker 1: with it. I don't know, you know, but it created
37:18
Speaker 1: a division and it breaks down people When those divisions form,
37:23
Speaker 1: it makes them a little bit less stronger. And then
37:26
Speaker 1: you know, other things try to move in and to
37:28
Speaker 1: seem like the comforter, uh, the guardian, Uh, the thing
37:32
Speaker 1: that you turn to, the thing that you're more familiar with.
37:37
Speaker 1: I have literally had people tell me how, oh hat
37:40
Speaker 1: Man stood up for me against my abuse of dad,
37:42
Speaker 1: or hat Man let me go to sleep, he tucked
37:46
Speaker 1: me in. Can you imagine? Can you imagine? And people
37:51
Speaker 1: they were usually children when this would happen, so they
37:54
Speaker 1: would try to gain that confidence and uh and kind
37:58
Speaker 1: of take ownership of him, take the the place of
38:01
Speaker 1: a missing or absent parrot. Disturbing. All right, We're going
38:06
Speaker 1: to get to our next break. There's more to come
38:08
Speaker 1: you guys. You are listening to Dark that Comes Light
38:11
Speaker 1: with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and
38:14
Speaker 1: Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. To around, I'll
38:19
Speaker 1: be right back, Welcome back. You are listening to Dark
38:45
Speaker 1: Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart
38:48
Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast a am para Normal Podcast Network.
38:53
Speaker 1: Today we are digging into a massive story in regards
38:57
Speaker 1: to Gregory's life and dealing with shadow people and hat
39:01
Speaker 1: Man and the devil himself. You know, your typical paranormal life.
39:06
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, when you've been in this field
39:09
Speaker 1: for a bit, I made I'm like, of course, you know, welcome,
39:12
Speaker 1: welcome to the club that nobody wants to belong to.
39:14
Speaker 1: And that's you know, serious and and funny at the
39:17
Speaker 1: same time, because it is not easy. So um, so
39:22
Speaker 1: I'm gonna continue here with Gregory's email um to finish
39:25
Speaker 1: us off and then address any questions if he has
39:29
Speaker 1: some here, all right, so continuous, it says, again, an
39:32
Speaker 1: aspect of my life that's separated from everyone else, secluded alone.
39:38
Speaker 1: I learned that for me to assimilate in the world,
39:41
Speaker 1: I had to keep these experiences to myself and not
39:45
Speaker 1: discuss openly with people. That's another aspect um. Today, more
39:51
Speaker 1: and more people are coming forward telling their stories of
39:54
Speaker 1: supernatural experiences or unexplainable phenomena. It has been a blessed
40:00
Speaker 1: to find and connect with those through social media who
40:03
Speaker 1: share my same experiences. A lifetime of knowing this other
40:07
Speaker 1: world existed and that these other beings were real, but
40:12
Speaker 1: never having validation or confirmation through shared experiences to finally
40:18
Speaker 1: find others who have also lived between that veil of
40:21
Speaker 1: both worlds, who share many of my same experiences. To
40:26
Speaker 1: find that validation, to finally not feel alone in this
40:29
Speaker 1: quest for understanding has been the greatest gift. I hope
40:36
Speaker 1: that by sharing part of my story, I can return
40:40
Speaker 1: that same gift to others. I have always been spiritual,
40:44
Speaker 1: raised in church, and believed in Jesus and his message.
40:48
Speaker 1: I don't believe in coincidences. Amen to that, I believe
40:52
Speaker 1: everything happens for a reason, even being led to this forum,
40:58
Speaker 1: Heidi A again, thank you so much for your courage,
41:02
Speaker 1: for pioneering the way, for being the voice for those
41:06
Speaker 1: of us that were never heard. Your true blessing and
41:10
Speaker 1: much appreciated. Gregory. Wow, you know you know it is
41:18
Speaker 1: uh it's it's emails like that. Honestly, even to just
41:21
Speaker 1: get one, it totally makes us all worth it, because
41:24
Speaker 1: greg I've been right where you're at. Of course, um,
41:29
Speaker 1: when we go into these fields, it's because we were
41:32
Speaker 1: trying to find answers and we couldn't find it, and
41:35
Speaker 1: uh so we we struggled, and and it's like, well, gosh,
41:38
Speaker 1: if I'm curious about this, others must be curious too,
41:41
Speaker 1: and and so suddenly we find ourselves writing the book
41:45
Speaker 1: we never thought we'd have to write. UM. And you
41:49
Speaker 1: know it is, Uh, it's a very lonely and isolating
41:54
Speaker 1: thing to be involved in to any great extent, I mean,
41:57
Speaker 1: any any sleepless night or something like this. It's it's
42:00
Speaker 1: not easy, it really isn't. I was fortunate enough that
42:04
Speaker 1: I had siblings who had experienced things right alongside of me.
42:07
Speaker 1: UM and our haunted house I grew up in, UM,
42:11
Speaker 1: and you know, as horrifying as it was, it was
42:15
Speaker 1: comforting to know you saw that too. Okay, Okay, yeah,
42:18
Speaker 1: me too, all right, So I wasn't having to go
42:21
Speaker 1: to an empty house and sit there alone as you did. UM.
42:26
Speaker 1: It has happened to me though, and something that you
42:29
Speaker 1: shared here where UM I believe you might have heard
42:31
Speaker 1: me talk about here on the show. I thought my
42:33
Speaker 1: sister was home and she wasn't. Turns out I was
42:37
Speaker 1: alone and things had come to life and the house
42:40
Speaker 1: pretty much and just to realize, oh my gosh, I
42:44
Speaker 1: was alone, really alone. UM. I've been in the situations
42:48
Speaker 1: where things like to get you isolated and then it
42:52
Speaker 1: raised their crazy flag at you. You know, um, and
42:56
Speaker 1: you know, in college, this is not a top that
43:00
Speaker 1: you really start discussing with your friends either if you
43:04
Speaker 1: want to remain within a group, because as a lady,
43:09
Speaker 1: a lot of ladies do get more scared than guys,
43:12
Speaker 1: you know, on these topics. But I don't know, the
43:14
Speaker 1: field is kind of evening out there now, and I
43:17
Speaker 1: believe it or not. I learned that about seventy of
43:22
Speaker 1: those who listen to shows like this are women, So
43:28
Speaker 1: it's I don't know who my friends are. My goodness.
43:30
Speaker 1: It was not easy though, trying to relate, because I
43:34
Speaker 1: was like, oh, my goodness, I just fart from my
43:37
Speaker 1: life last night, and I gotta sit here and talk
43:40
Speaker 1: about makeup. No, I really don't want to. I really
43:43
Speaker 1: want to tell you what's going on. So but so
43:45
Speaker 1: it's reassuring to hear that more ladies have stepped into this.
43:49
Speaker 1: But in college and throughout most of my life, I
43:53
Speaker 1: did have those around me who, you know, i'd try
43:57
Speaker 1: not to share that big part of your life with
44:01
Speaker 1: us because we just can't handle it. And that's a shame.
44:04
Speaker 1: And uh, here I am. I'm writing books. I fly
44:08
Speaker 1: off to go and lecture someplace at times, and or
44:11
Speaker 1: do a TV show, but I can't talk about these
44:16
Speaker 1: things with a lot of people. So I am in
44:19
Speaker 1: that same boat Gregory. And and yeah, it's a relief
44:21
Speaker 1: to chat with people still for me online or on
44:25
Speaker 1: this show, um on the phone, you know, and people
44:28
Speaker 1: called me on social media all the time. And that's
44:30
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I announced please find me
44:33
Speaker 1: on Clubhouse in my group shadow People and hat Man Encounters.
44:38
Speaker 1: I'm just putting that out there again because it's important,
44:40
Speaker 1: because I get it if people want to talk, and
44:44
Speaker 1: it's needed, it is so needed. It's a shame people
44:48
Speaker 1: really can't turn to the person that's been at their
44:51
Speaker 1: side for most of their life, or or that they're
44:53
Speaker 1: married into. A lot of people can't handle these conversations.
44:57
Speaker 1: So you know, greg definitely, I should say Gregory definitely.
45:03
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's it's very helpful that you took the
45:07
Speaker 1: step forward to allow me to share your story here
45:11
Speaker 1: on this program. And you know, for a lot of
45:13
Speaker 1: people are like, well, you you think something was there?
45:16
Speaker 1: You had a thought you were four years old. I mean,
45:19
Speaker 1: why would this bother you? Gregory? Oh my goodness. So
45:22
Speaker 1: many times people have told me I saw something when
45:26
Speaker 1: I was a toddler once and hat man destroyed my life.
45:30
Speaker 1: I mean really seriously, once, just once, and to have
45:36
Speaker 1: more than that happened to a person, it can really
45:39
Speaker 1: be uh disabling. I mean, your whole idea of what
45:43
Speaker 1: this world is made up of, it just gets shaken up.
45:46
Speaker 1: And then you can't tell anybody, and then you got
45:49
Speaker 1: to go to work and pretend you're like everybody else,
45:51
Speaker 1: and then you got to go to the grocery store,
45:53
Speaker 1: and then you gotta go home and cut and you
45:55
Speaker 1: gotta make sure the kids are off to school. You know,
45:57
Speaker 1: it's and it's like, don't contemplate what happened to you
46:02
Speaker 1: where you fought for your life or you felt you
46:04
Speaker 1: were threatened or something from another veil was watching you.
46:10
Speaker 1: I am pretty darned certain that we balance between two
46:14
Speaker 1: different worlds here, if not more. I know that for
46:18
Speaker 1: myself it has been challenging. It really has been, I
46:24
Speaker 1: especially more recently starting up again for myself where I
46:27
Speaker 1: am just like I know, I go to another city
46:31
Speaker 1: and it's not a city that I can recognize here
46:33
Speaker 1: to be on this plane of existence. And I go
46:37
Speaker 1: to another city and it's not the Crystal city either,
46:40
Speaker 1: I've talked about that here on the show. Um, that's
46:43
Speaker 1: a more spiritual place. I'm talking about a real nuts
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Speaker 1: and bolts city where it's really industrialized and there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of people and kind of reminds me of Chicago.
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Speaker 1: I did live there for a long time. And but
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Speaker 1: then it's not it's really strange type of place. And
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Speaker 1: but it's very much like this place. So but people
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Speaker 1: are just a little bit more cold there, believe it
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Speaker 1: or not, if you could imagine. Um, So I get it,
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Speaker 1: I do. I I go to this this other place.
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Speaker 1: But then I also, UM have this very very unique
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Speaker 1: um um how can I say? I don't know if
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Speaker 1: it's a talent, um happenstance. It's just something that takes
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Speaker 1: place where I find myself inside of people or next
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Speaker 1: to them, trying to help them out with something. And
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Speaker 1: oddly enough, at times these people have found me and
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Speaker 1: they're like, oh my goodness, who are you. I dreamt
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Speaker 1: about you. You saved my life, or you help me
47:47
Speaker 1: with this or that, and and I mean this stuff
47:49
Speaker 1: started like a long time ago where I'd get these
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Speaker 1: emails about that and sometimes letters back then. Um, and
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Speaker 1: you know, I just had a UFO website up that
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Speaker 1: most people didn't have back then as a website, and
48:04
Speaker 1: you know, if people would just be like, holy smokes,
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Speaker 1: how to how the heck? And who the heck? So,
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Speaker 1: and then these people will send a photo sometime and yeah,
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Speaker 1: they did look familiar. So I don't know what that is,
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Speaker 1: not fully, not clearly, but I have now learned. UM.
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Speaker 1: In the church, the Catholic Church, they call it by location. Again,
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Speaker 1: that's something that you know, you kind of hear of
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Speaker 1: these things, but I just I really didn't know. I
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Speaker 1: really didn't know. So, so what is going on in
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Speaker 1: this world? Why are we having these types of experiences
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Speaker 1: where we're able to see things that others don't or
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Speaker 1: feel things that others don't. I have a good understanding
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Speaker 1: about why that is for myself now, and it's a
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Speaker 1: It's something that I've hinted at before here on this
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Speaker 1: show that I'm going to be exploring further sooner than later. UM.
48:56
Speaker 1: I am writing several new books right now, and it's
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Speaker 1: something I'm exploring that I just never thought i'd be
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Speaker 1: here talking about UM. But it's something that was brought
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Speaker 1: up on a few different shows by a journalist that
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Speaker 1: I know, uh so yeah, I mean, it's so much
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Speaker 1: to explore in this lifetime. I never ever would have
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Speaker 1: expected to be the situation that I am. But Gregory,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure the same as for you. And again, this
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Speaker 1: is really really helpful that you took this step forward,
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Speaker 1: uh to try to help people, and I mean I
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Speaker 1: applaud you when a lot of people really would not.
49:31
Speaker 1: And I think that again, how do we get the answers?
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Speaker 1: How do we find out? Is by joining together, by
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Speaker 1: having these conversations, talking it out and sharing. And again, um,
49:45
Speaker 1: you know, I welcome anybody to go to my main website,
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Speaker 1: which is Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow Folks dot
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Speaker 1: com and send me your experiences. What is it that's
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Speaker 1: going on out there? Doesn't always have to be the
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Speaker 1: dark and horrific things that people have going on. I
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Speaker 1: cover a lot of topics, um, Jesus encounters and angel encounters,
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Speaker 1: all of that. I've got books on these topics as well,
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Speaker 1: and I love when people can recognize we have combining
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Speaker 1: and conflicting experiences, good and bad, so share those as well,
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Speaker 1: and again find me on clubhouse, go to my club
50:23
Speaker 1: on their shadow People and hat Man encounters and that's
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Speaker 1: how these conversations. I want to hear what's going on
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Speaker 1: in your world, and as always, this has been very fascinating.
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Speaker 1: Thank you again, Gregory for sharing your story and for
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Speaker 1: everybody that's listening. You have been listening to Dark Becomes
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Speaker 1: Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio
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