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Huddle Up | Jaguars' Free Agency Approach, Collecting Compensatory Picks · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle U. Jaguars. Senior writer John Osher, NFL
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  Speaker 1: Network analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P.
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  Speaker 1: Shadwick bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome into another edition of Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks
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  Speaker 3: Podcast version.
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  Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, March eighteenth. JP Shadwick with John Oser.
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  Speaker 2: We're at the Miller Electric Center at the Hyundai Studios.
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  Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks with us in Los Angeles, a day after
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  Speaker 2: Saint Patrick's Day. Happy belated Saint Patrick's Day, John and Bucky.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look happy, happy, happy green beer day. Sure,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure you guys consume plenty of green beer. Got
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  Speaker 4: pins had your little shamrocks and Lucky clovers and all
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  Speaker 4: that leprechauns running around.
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  Speaker 5: I hate I missed out. I hate I missed out.
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  Speaker 6: I did not have a green beer. I had a Guinness,
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  Speaker 6: and I actually I was out.
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  Speaker 7: I guess Saturday night and a buddy might have seen
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  Speaker 7: in a long time. He's in a band. He said,
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  Speaker 7: I'm playing. I'm playing Saint Patrick's Day over it. Think
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  Speaker 7: Cole haynes On Tuesday. I'm not gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Go, right, you go any any Irish establishment on St.
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  Speaker 2: Patrick's Day. It is bedlam.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, I'm fine with it. I'm glad it's there, but
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  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna be at a at a bar on
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  Speaker 7: a Tuesday at four thirty.
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  Speaker 6: Now I know you're sitting here, JP, Hey speak for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, so we call tuesday, come on and.
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  Speaker 6: It just starts.
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  Speaker 7: You know, there's uh I'm not saying I've never been
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  Speaker 7: at a bar on a Tuesday, but that that.
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  Speaker 6: Was not my bag.
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  Speaker 2: We've got, we've got.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's a weird timing year, so there's not
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  Speaker 3: a whole lot going on around the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into some of that coming up. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: the signings why they haven't been so busy, you know,
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  Speaker 2: tournaments here now it's turning time back, Bucky, What are
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  Speaker 2: what are the what are the tar Hills doing? That's
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  Speaker 2: the story.
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  Speaker 6: That's a bad time.
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  Speaker 5: Whoa whoa, whoa whoa what we're talking about bad time?
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  Speaker 4: Like like we only have to do that hot, we
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  Speaker 4: only have to be hot three weekends in a row.
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  Speaker 4: And the way that the Tarhars want to approach you
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  Speaker 4: just want to win the tournament.
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  Speaker 5: That's this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: So there's a four team invitational that the tar Hills
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  Speaker 4: are playing in. They hope to it win the tournament,
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  Speaker 4: they will see what it's like after that. There's always
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  Speaker 4: a shot. There's always a shot to get hot. We
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  Speaker 4: just got to be the best team in the country each.
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  Speaker 5: And every weekend. We do that, we'll be able to
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  Speaker 5: add another banner.
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  Speaker 2: But here's another banner.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not the Tar Hill fan that I once was.
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  Speaker 7: But isn't there isn't there stud out?
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  Speaker 2: Ok?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's I saw him playing. If that kid's really good,
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  Speaker 6: he was.
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  Speaker 5: There, John Like the show must go on.
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  Speaker 4: I love them, I love them, but they're still gonna
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  Speaker 4: tip the ballipool Thursday. We got to play with whoever
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  Speaker 4: rocks to Jersey. So it doesn't stop the expectations. Don't
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  Speaker 4: change my expectations. We're gonna be right there. I gotta
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  Speaker 4: fill out a bracket, gotta get that in Today. I'm
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  Speaker 4: competing with my high school team. Got everyone in there,
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  Speaker 4: and best believe the targets is gonna be somewhere in
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  Speaker 4: the final four.
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  Speaker 5: This the only way I know how to do it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know any other.
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  Speaker 3: Way At least you and see guys are not in
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  Speaker 3: jail like the Alabama guys right now.
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  Speaker 2: So that's bad.
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  Speaker 5: That's bad.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, there's some conversation about trying to pilfer
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  Speaker 4: o Naate Oates away from Alabama to maybe have him
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  Speaker 4: down one of those plaid jacketson and Chapel Hill, if
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  Speaker 4: there was a move that was made, But that can't happen.
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  Speaker 5: You can't have that going around.
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  Speaker 4: Can't have two controversial figures manning two of the most
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  Speaker 4: respected programs we have on campus, the football and the
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  Speaker 4: basketball team.
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  Speaker 5: So I think that ship is past.
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  Speaker 6: Today's go to Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: No, but there's a lot of conversation about if Carolina
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  Speaker 4: was to make a move, knows would be high on
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  Speaker 4: their list.
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  Speaker 5: I just can't imagine how that would.
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  Speaker 7: They haven't had a non Carolina guy as the coaching
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  Speaker 7: like since pre Dean.
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  Speaker 4: And I would say that I don't know if we
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  Speaker 4: ever should, even though like the family is, the family
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  Speaker 4: can go outside the family.
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  Speaker 3: But if the family's not winning as much as the
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  Speaker 3: family needs to win.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta go outside the family.
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  Speaker 6: They may have in nearly two thousands, when.
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad, I'm glad you brought that up because I
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  Speaker 4: find it funny. It's just kind of the gift in
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  Speaker 4: the curse of being guitar heel.
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  Speaker 5: They've lost eight games, jp eight games.
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  Speaker 4: The sky is falling because the Tarios have lost eight games.
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  Speaker 4: I look around into all the brackets and there are
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  Speaker 4: a lot of teams that have eight losses. Now the
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  Speaker 4: top teams are one to two losses, but we're right there.
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  Speaker 4: So it's it's kind of funny to me that they're
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  Speaker 4: going at my guy Hubert, who was around when I
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  Speaker 4: was in school.
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  Speaker 5: But it is what it is to who much is
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  Speaker 5: given much required.
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  Speaker 7: Look, I've been a I used to be a major
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  Speaker 7: Carolina fan.
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  Speaker 6: I never went there obviously, but uh.
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  Speaker 5: Now you're off the wagon.
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  Speaker 7: I still follow them over anybody else, but I know
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  Speaker 7: enough Tar Hill fans to know they're they're a piece
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  Speaker 7: of work.
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  Speaker 2: Now. That reminds me about Alabama football a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: We do have high expectations. So now, Johnny, you probably weren't.
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  Speaker 4: You probably all gated out right, like, so that's that's
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  Speaker 4: your team now, Like you're off of us and you're
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  Speaker 4: on the Gators.
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  Speaker 2: Champs trying to go back to back.
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  Speaker 7: Honestly, you know, everybody who I know who you know,
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  Speaker 7: Frangie and the like who always give me grief about
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  Speaker 7: my Florida connection. I don't feel a real connection to
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  Speaker 7: Florida sports. I watched it last year when they want it,
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  Speaker 7: and I was I was relatively happy when they want it,
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  Speaker 7: you know, for them, because it seemed like they were
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  Speaker 7: a good program, good guy the coach. But I'm not
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  Speaker 7: a big I can't really attach to it.
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  Speaker 3: This is an audio podcast, by the way, we have
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  Speaker 3: videos so we can see each other.
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  Speaker 2: Buncky just did the gator chomping.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just saying I'm just saying, yeah, John, he's
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  Speaker 4: not running around shopping.
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  Speaker 5: I thought that was a big deal. I thought they
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  Speaker 5: teach you that the first day of orientation.
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  Speaker 6: People say I've never chomped.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I chomped eighty five eighty six when I
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  Speaker 7: was there. But you know, really, once I started covering
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  Speaker 7: Florida in the nineties for the newspaper, it's hard for
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  Speaker 7: me to cover a team and attached fandom to it
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  Speaker 7: because there's you know, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know what the sausages made too.
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  Speaker 4: What fun is that If we can't be a true fan.
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  Speaker 4: I know, and I know this is the part we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna talk about that. I just I just don't I
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  Speaker 4: just don't understand how we can't go. I mean, I've
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  Speaker 4: been listening to podcasts all the time. I got your
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  Speaker 4: football coach John Summer all over here talking about toughness
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  Speaker 4: and how they got to get to it and they
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  Speaker 4: got to remove all the logos only to put the
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  Speaker 4: logos back on after they earn it and all this
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  Speaker 4: other stuff. And so I'm all in, like, I got
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  Speaker 4: a little alligators running around the house, just because I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's such a deal between the basketball coach and
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  Speaker 4: they got the baseball coach.
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  Speaker 5: Who's is he?
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  Speaker 2: Is?
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  Speaker 5: He? Is he suspended? Or there's so much stuff going
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  Speaker 5: on around Florida.
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  Speaker 4: And I've kind of adopted it because I come back
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  Speaker 4: to Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 6: So off, you're a Gator, Bucky Gator.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I never thought i'd see the day.
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  Speaker 5: Never thought got it be a crocodile?
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  Speaker 2: How about that? All right? Hey?
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  Speaker 3: Coming up a little bit later, we went on XT
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  Speaker 3: today and asked for some questions for some uh some listeners.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to those coming up a little bit. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: the Jaguars re signed a handful of guys before free agency,
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  Speaker 3: and then once free agency broke, they brought in Chris
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  Speaker 3: Rodriguez junior running back from the Washington Commanders, but not
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  Speaker 3: much else going on. James Gladstone spoke with the media
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  Speaker 3: guys a little bit after free agency started, and Bucky
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  Speaker 3: had partly an explanation why And they have high value
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  Speaker 3: in what could be some higher compensatory picks coming back
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  Speaker 3: their way in twenty seven with the free agents they
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  Speaker 3: let go out the door that signed elsewhere if they
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  Speaker 3: perform at a high level and theory, compensatory picks become
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  Speaker 3: higher and Fucky he's done some work with comp picks before,
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  Speaker 3: and I guess that's the strategy moving ahead.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I thought.
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  Speaker 4: James gave a great explanation about why the Jaguars have
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  Speaker 4: been slow to kind of jump in the free agent market,
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  Speaker 4: and he talked about having guys who are valued by
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  Speaker 4: other teams who signed Luca to their free agent deals,
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  Speaker 4: and the compensatory picks that come back to the Jaguars
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  Speaker 4: and how that treasure chest full of compensatory picks enabled
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  Speaker 4: the Jags to make moves throughout the course of the season.
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  Speaker 4: They're really pay it off if you think about what
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  Speaker 4: they would do Greg Newsom, Jacobe Myers, some of the
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  Speaker 4: other trades that they've made, They've been able to parlay
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  Speaker 4: those picks and the players proven players down the line,
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  Speaker 4: and so there's a there are options that having the
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  Speaker 4: extra picks give you. We just talked about the trade vehicle.
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  Speaker 4: You can also sit and pick and get the players
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  Speaker 4: that are there when you have those numbers come up
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  Speaker 4: in twenty twenty seven, or you can package those picks
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  Speaker 4: to move up to get in range.
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  Speaker 5: For some of the desired players.
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  Speaker 4: So, in essence, the way Glasstone explained, it is really
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  Speaker 4: a win win for the Jaguars to kind of sit back, wait,
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  Speaker 4: be patient, be very deliberate in terms of how they
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  Speaker 4: approach THEE agency while developing their own because they're able
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  Speaker 4: to parlay the successes of their own players and to
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  Speaker 4: maybe future successes with other players that can feel valuable roles.
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  Speaker 7: Yet, I feel slightly different about comp picks than I
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  Speaker 7: used to. I thought for a long time that a
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  Speaker 7: lot of football people sort of overrated them, and that
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  Speaker 7: sort of changed when because you used to not be
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  Speaker 7: able to trade them, once you were allowed to trade them,
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  Speaker 7: brought in a little more to their value because I
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  Speaker 7: always thought, hey, if you're losing a really good free agent,
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  Speaker 7: it really doesn't balance out to get a.
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  Speaker 6: Fourth round pick.
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  Speaker 2: There's a late third or late fixth.
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  Speaker 7: And you know, so I'm a little more all in
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  Speaker 7: on the compic as being important. I think it's important
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  Speaker 7: because I got a lot of fans who were asking me, well,
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  Speaker 7: you know, does he really think that losing this player
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  Speaker 7: balances out getting a comp pick? And I don't think
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  Speaker 7: James was saying We're always going to let our guys
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  Speaker 7: go to get comp picks two years from now that
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  Speaker 7: we don't know yet. If these had been different positions
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  Speaker 7: and different players, I think that I think they would
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  Speaker 7: have re signed them.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not so sure that.
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  Speaker 7: You know, everyone talks about the cap being the reason,
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  Speaker 7: like the cap now in twenty six me the reason
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  Speaker 7: that made these moves. I don't know then they they'd
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  Speaker 7: had cap space, they had done that much differently because
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  Speaker 7: of the positions these guys played, meaning Etn and Lloyd
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  Speaker 7: they were running back at outside linebacker, do he was
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  Speaker 7: a safety? Those are not positions that all teams resigned.
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  Speaker 7: So again, I'm more making the point that if people
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  Speaker 7: saw that what James says say, we're always going to
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  Speaker 7: let our guys go and build for the future and compick.
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  Speaker 6: It's not that.
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  Speaker 7: But in this situation with these players, yes, you can
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  Speaker 7: get comp picks for guys and now don't re sign
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  Speaker 7: guys in free agency and maybe get two or three
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  Speaker 7: picks next year. That would be a really big comp
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  Speaker 7: pick year, and it'd be the biggest comp pick. The
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  Speaker 7: Jaguars were the biggest comp pick year. If they get
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  Speaker 7: three that they've ever had so I think they got
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  Speaker 7: one a couple of years ago in the third round
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  Speaker 7: for Juwan Taylor. Beyond that, and they got one for
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  Speaker 7: Ard and Key that year. I don't think they've ever
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  Speaker 7: gotten three in one year, so there is a formula,
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  Speaker 7: but they could get three or four next year if
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  Speaker 7: Dewey and News play enough.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's really interesting to go down their thing, and
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  Speaker 4: I think people will feel like it's weird that a
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  Speaker 4: general manager will talk about his players kind of being
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  Speaker 4: developed in a system, developed in an organization and going elsewhere.
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  Speaker 4: But what you're doing is you're speaking to the realities
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  Speaker 4: of the situation of pro sports where you have a
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  Speaker 4: team you're not going to be able to keep everybody,
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  Speaker 4: and I can tell you, like said, having sending in
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  Speaker 4: those seats and listening to coaches. Coaches will talk about
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  Speaker 4: my goal is to get everybody on the field and
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  Speaker 4: having opportunities to better themselves. And some of those will
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  Speaker 4: be here, some of those will be at other places.
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  Speaker 4: And so if you're really bought in and you're really
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  Speaker 4: trying to help the player be the best version of themselves,
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  Speaker 4: you want them to play well, and then whatever happens
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  Speaker 4: after they play well, whether they come back or go on,
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  Speaker 4: it is about your ability to pour into them so
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  Speaker 4: they can become the best players that they can become
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  Speaker 4: and really help themselves and help their families situations with
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  Speaker 4: whatever happens down the road.
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  Speaker 7: Well, sometimes I believe it or not, Bucky. Sometimes my
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  Speaker 7: brethren's in the media and observers and fans, they don't
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  Speaker 7: always look at things logically.
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  Speaker 6: Have you ever noticed that?
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  Speaker 2: Wow? Really?
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  Speaker 7: But if you draft and develop well, like if you're
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  Speaker 7: a draft and developed team, which I think this franchise
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  Speaker 7: is going to turn into or is turning into, well,
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  Speaker 7: there's draft, develop and resign as part of it, but
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  Speaker 7: part of it too. If you draft and develop well enough,
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  Speaker 7: the math doesn't work for resigning all your guys. You
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  Speaker 7: can't resign them all. So the Jaguars are drafting and developing.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 7: They've drafted Trevor Lawrence. He's developed into a frontline quarterback.
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  Speaker 7: Trayvon Walker I believe will be resigned, Brent and Strange
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  Speaker 7: I believe will be resigned, Josh Heinz Allen. They've resigned
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  Speaker 7: Parker Washington. So you can't re sign everybody, And you
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  Speaker 7: have to pick your spots and positions that you resign.
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  Speaker 7: And as much as I like to Travis Etn and
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  Speaker 7: as much as I like Devin Lloyd, they play positions
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  Speaker 7: that if you sign those positions to core value money,
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  Speaker 7: somewhere along the line you've got to not sign positions
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  Speaker 7: to core value money. And I think that was just
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  Speaker 7: a philosophical choice they had to make with those guys.
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  Speaker 7: And I mean, I don't think you really had any
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  Speaker 7: choice with it, and I don't I don't think the
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  Speaker 7: choice was all that difficult.
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  Speaker 4: Look, man, you have to like you got to be
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  Speaker 4: able to make hard decisions, and you can emotionally love
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  Speaker 4: a player, but you have to be able to separate
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  Speaker 4: your love and adoration for a player in the person
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  Speaker 4: that he is from. What makes good business sense, and
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  Speaker 4: in this moment, given the skyrocketing prices that both of
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  Speaker 4: those players were going to command, it's the end. And
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  Speaker 4: even I guess he changed the pronunciation's name hn and
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  Speaker 4: H and Devin Lloyd, it was going to be cost prohibitive.
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  Speaker 4: And it comes to building the rest of the team,
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  Speaker 4: and so you wish them well and then you focus
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  Speaker 4: on finding replacements that can play at a higher level
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  Speaker 4: while also attacking other areas of the team that need
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  Speaker 4: to be improved so we can be the team that
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  Speaker 4: is the last one standing and we can feel the
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  Speaker 4: confetti flat on our shoulder.
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  Speaker 5: So that's ultimately what it's about.
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  Speaker 6: I have a question for the scout.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this is a scouting season.
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  Speaker 7: Scout in the future GM, because I still think we're
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  Speaker 7: all gonna be working for Bucky someday.
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  Speaker 6: Rodriguez, I feel like he is going to.
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  Speaker 7: I feel like he is a player who has a
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  Speaker 7: chance to maybe not change the identity the offense, but
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  Speaker 7: fit into what they want the offensive identity to be.
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  Speaker 7: They talked last year so much in training camp about
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  Speaker 7: being a tough, phys running team. I think they want
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  Speaker 7: to be that. I think it was hard to really
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  Speaker 7: play to that identity with etem with Hn and Tooting
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  Speaker 7: being your primary backs. I kind of feel like this
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  Speaker 7: guy may bring a toughness and a consistency to the
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  Speaker 7: running offense that maybe they didn't have last year.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, it sounds like a great matchup. It sounds like
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  Speaker 4: the relationship with Lim is solid. It sounds like the
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  Speaker 4: ability to push him to be more than maybe he's
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  Speaker 4: even shown at this level could help this offense go
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  Speaker 4: to a higher level. And when we think about what
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  Speaker 4: this offense wants to be, we want to be a
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  Speaker 4: physical offense that can run the ball.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: We want to be able to throw it.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: We want to be able to utilize all the weapons,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: and that includes using the running back out of the backfield.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: In the past game, Rodriguez gives them that, And I
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: just love the confidence that he comes in with, but
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: more importantly, I like the work ethic and the toughness
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: that he's going to bring. This was a move that
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: was move that was very intentional, and I continue to
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: believe that the Jaguars are going to continue to add
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: pieces to their running back room. Yeah, He's certainly a
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: big piece and certainly someone they hope can ignite this
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: offense in a different way.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Well, John, Bucky is time to lock in seats for
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six its deposit season as well. Next season
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: will be played at EverBank Stadium, but seating capacity limited
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: due to the in Bowl Renovations and spots are going fast,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: so don't miss out on your chance to see this
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: season's biggest matchups. Jaguars dot Com slash tickets were called
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: nine oh four six three three two thousand. Of course,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: the schedule usually comes out early in May, first week
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: or two of May. We'll get a better idea of date,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: certainly all the real idea of dates. Once the schedule
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: comes out, you can check out all the opponents home
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: and road at Jaguars dot Com. Johnny wrote a nice
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: article about that once the season was ended and all
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: the opponents were confirmed, So check it out right there.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Let's wrap today a little different. This is a media
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: question edition of the Huddle Up Podcast. I don't know, Bucky,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: if you're ready for this.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We've already done this.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: I've been seeing some of the questions. I'm like, oh, okay.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see which ones made the cut today.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: Bucky's kind of the king of NFL social media. He's
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: the king of many things.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: He's a social media maven.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: He is we say, all right, let's do this.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: What we say at Lever Torrance is Dennis Gardak expected
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: to feel the vacancy left by Devin Lloyd.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: If so, is he up to the task.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: And another note, he says, it's the off season after
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: a great regular season, so not much else to speculate about.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: It feels weird. I could get used to it, though, Yeah,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I agree, we.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Think I could. Yeah, I could absolutely get used to this.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: I think being a successful team, being a team that's
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: a perennial playoff team, one that is always buying for
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: the title, is something that we aspire to and I
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: would love to be in that position one day. So
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: hopefully we can build on last season and having even
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: better between twenty six tween twenty seven. As far as
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Gardak replacing Lloyd, I don't think that's a direct replacement.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: To me, that replacement is either.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Going to be found on one of the backups that
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: are already on the roster, or they want to look
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: to see if they can feel that position in the draft.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: When I look at Day two, second and third round.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: There are a lot of intriguing linebackers that could be
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: in play. Whether it's a Jacob Rodriguez from Texas Tech,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: whether it's the Jake Golday from Cincinnati. There guys that
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: are splash play specialist, guys that can make big plays,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: can do some of the things that we saw Devin
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Lloyd do with all the interceptions, but they also can
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: fit and do some things in the run game. To me,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: because the draft was so loaded with linebackers, I believe
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: there was more comfort in being able to let Devin
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Lloyd depart because you feel like you can find a
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: suitable replacement in the draft.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: But Bucky, do you need a little bit of a
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: thump right? I mean, for lack of a better term,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Lloyd was a stacked linebacker, Like, do you need that
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: kind of size to fill in the run game or
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: can you know? Because Gardak is not that now and I.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: Don't I don't envision guardact playing their role.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: To me, I think this is someone that they find
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: in the draft or one of the guys that are
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: already on the depth chart that has an opportunity, whether
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Benrea Miller whoever. To me, this is about finding a
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: player that can impact the game in a few different
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: ways in the draft, and there are a bunch of
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: guys who have off all linebacker talents but also can
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: get off the edges and can blitz effectively. I talked
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: about Rodriguez and Golde even early in the draft, and
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Anthony Hill from Texas will be in play. I expect
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: the other guys to kind of be off the table
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: when we were talking about C. J. Allen and styles
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: and all that. But there are enough players in this
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: draft where you can find a really good player that
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: can come in and make a big contribution.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I could.
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: I could definitely see because that's really the only spot
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: where but they can line up there with Vintrell or
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: somebody else on the roster. But it's really the only
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: spot where you look at and say, Okay, well they
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: they don't really have a guy that, you know, oh,
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: is a starting caliber player. And again I think Ventrell
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: probably is. But you know what I'm getting at, right,
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: they've contributed something but not but I could easily see
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: that being fifty six. And if it's fifty six, then
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: that guy's got, you know, outside linebacker. At that point
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: in the second round, should be a guy who's starting
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: and who is potentially a really good player. I could
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: also see them if they get in a bind there
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: and a player that they don't feel as that guy
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: is around, you could see them drafting it later. It's
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: it's a position where there's often veterans available later in
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: the offseason too. You can get trade for not very
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: much equity. It's just not supposed to be an impossible
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: position to fill. I mean, it's not like you're trying
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: to go get your starting left tackle here, you or
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: your number one shut down corner.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: It's weak side linebacker. I'm not diminishing the people who
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: play it, but it is a like third edge rusher.
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: You can go get that guy a little later because
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: veterans are available and they maintain their availability so they
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: can go to the right team.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: You said fifty six. You see Abdula where it's fifty.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: Six for the Jaguars, fifty six overall.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, yeah, another linebacker.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when you're talking about yeah, when you're talking about
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: pig fifty six. So we talked about the bottom of
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: the second round, and we talked about it. I talked
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: about all the guys gold d Anthony Hill, Jacob Arriguez,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Joe Siah Trotter from Missouri appears to be out type
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: of guy, a little old school throwback linebacker instincts. Aggressive
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: range this year is uncommon because there are a bunch
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: of linebackers they grade out right in those ranges where.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: We have picks in the second and third round.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: There will be guys that can come in and buy
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: for starting positions, or you talk about being able to
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: go to the veteran route and find someone on the street.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: The longer it goes free agency, the more.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Likely those guys are going to be admiable to those
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: deals that are on team terms as opposed to their terms.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm back on your page again, John, Yeah,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: you're right. Six pick.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but heyt being a little too inside football. I
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: didn't say number fifty six. I said fifty six.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: That was cool.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Cool, here's a linebacker. We were talking like I got you.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: I understood.
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: The two draft guys were yeah, I drafted over here.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just read the car. That's all I do
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: is read commercials.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: He's still he's still hanging on to the players.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: I guess he's still on the weekend, still thinking about
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: what he could do, how he can mimic some of
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: the things that he sol over the weekend.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: We're over here talking about ball.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Next question off X today at Hickstra one seven to one.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: How improved and in what ways will Travis Hunter.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Be on both sides of the ball after having a
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: full year to study the offensive and defensive systems.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Well, of course we know this.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I mean there was some lining up is shoes early
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: on offense last year, flashed on defensive times, and then
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: the injury happened. It felt like they were starting to
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: they were going to give him a little bit more
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: on offense until the injury went down after the byeway, Bucky,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: But what's your field right now on Travis Hunter?
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: Really optimistic coming in.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: I thought he had an opportunity to be a fantastic
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: defensive back.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: I thought he would be a.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Package player on offense, and it appears that that might
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: be where he's trending. And we'll see how it changes
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: based on his performance on the field as defensive back.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Though he has an opportunity to be a high end
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: player in his defense because it's a C ball, getball defense.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: The best part of his games or his instincts, his
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: awareness and his ball skills. When you watch him and
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: we've had the preview watching him in practice, they are
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: few that I can imagine having better hands than Travis
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Hunter and playing in his zone where he can track
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: the quarterbacks, eize he can play freely in terms of
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: reacting to things that happen in front of him. I
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: just think the ball is gonna find him a ton
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: of different ways on tips and overthrows where he makes
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: a legitimate impact on that side, and.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: Then on offense, just being able to fill.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: In as a wide receiver for just because Parker Washington
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: was so good, Brian Thomas Junior, Jakobe Myers, Brent Strange,
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: him being able to come on occasion and make some
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: things happen will be positive. But on defense he should
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: be a monster on the perimeter.
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to frame this question like it was
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: a good thing he got hurt because it wasn't is
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: there And I think there's still a lot of unknown
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: about Travis because it felt like we saw him early
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: when the entire team was still trying to figure out
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: what everything was. The offensive identity really developed in the
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: second half of the season where you felt like they
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: knew exactly what these.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: These receivers roles were. Everything got going. I guess what
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm asking Bucky. Is it a.
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: Is it a positive for Travis that the offense now
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: has an identity? You know what Parker is, you know
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: what Jacoby is. Trevor knows what those guys are.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Will it be.
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: Easier for him to fit in and find the things
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: that he can contribute or is it unfortunate for him
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: because all the places are full?
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's It's funny, right because we had talked
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: about the wide receiver struggles. He gets hurt, they make
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: the trade for Jacoby, and the things just kind of
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: fall into place offensively. Parker Washington emerges, becomes almost a
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: borderline superstar in this offense. Jacoby Myers is a dependable
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: chain mover. You see the continued growth of Bretton Strange.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: So this offense appears where everyone is really slotted in
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: a role that works for the talent.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: Raven Brian Thomas Jr.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Now with Travis, not that he's the outlier, but I
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: do believe there's a little more you have to manufacture.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: How you want to get his production, how you want
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: to get him on the field. Because you don't want
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: to upset the Alpacarte in terms of the chemistry and
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: the continuity that has already been established with the first three.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: This is why the offseason, the summer and stuff could
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: be important, depending on when he comes back from the injury,
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: to begin to figure out how to play with those
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: various lineups, what things you can do with certain people
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: on the field, all of that, and this is what
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: the coaches are spending their offseason doing. They're going through
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: the various scenarios, trying to figure out how to maximize
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: the telling them the roster, how to putting them in
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: a position to make the most impact while.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Making the game easy for the quarterback.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: We'll see how it plays out, but he certainly will
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: have a role, but I expect his role to be
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: more significant on defense, just given how he could be
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: a starter.
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's funny, I guess you know. It's how you
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: phrase a question. I didn't mean for that question to
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: sound like I didn't think Travis is going to have
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: a role. It's just interesting to figure out what it's
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: going to be because we haven't seen it, and we
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: really never really saw him in first seven games against
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: the Rams, he had a day, right, right.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: But I had a second half.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: When a bow up right, it's hard.
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: It's hard to close your eyes and visualize, like, I
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: know what Parker is going to look like next year.
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: I know what Yakobe's going to do. I don't really
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: quite know what Travis fits. But I think what's going
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: to be interesting is if we if his team had
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: like an average offensive coach, you'd wonder about it. We're
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: talking about it as sort of a challenge for Liam.
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: This might be just a blast because he's really good,
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: maybe the best I've ever covered it. Okay, I'm going
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: to get guy X in a situation where Guy X
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: can excel.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Or he's up against this guy on the other So.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: Maybe once everything else is it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: Is settled, Liam's back there right now, going Okay, I've
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: got these packages, and I know this kid can excel
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: doing this. But I don't have to worry about him
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: always being in the offense. I can just have him
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: do an XYZ. That might be really unusual, buck you,
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: but it might be what works.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: It's one of those things when you go back and
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: you really look at how he was deployed at Colorado,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: A lot of it was some packaging right, Like he
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: had a small menu of plays that he operated from.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Now they stayed in that small menu a lot because
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: he was able to make a huge impact. But yeah,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: most guys, and they'll tell you this the NFL that
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: look ten to fifteen percent of your roster may have
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: some transcending guys like the first top five or so
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: or guys that can play in any scheme or whatever.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: The rest of the team. This system players and they
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: got to be put in the right thing to be
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: a major impact. And for me, offensively, Traps needs to
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: put in a situation where he can play to his
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: strengths as a playmaker, and that takes time for a
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: coach to figure that out. And as you're doing that,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: he has a unique challenge of learning a different position
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: on the other side of the ball. Packaging may make
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: it easier for him to process it mentally because you're
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: not over in data, you're not overwhelmed with all the
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: information that can come with trying to learn two positions
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: as a full time player on both sides of the ball.
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: It's a cool thing, JP because Week seven last year,
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: we're doing this podcast when we get back from London
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: and I have listened to it, but I'm sure our
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: theme was, Hey, he's going to be the go to
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: guy offensively. Now, all of a sudden, seven months later,
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: he doesn't have to be, and there's four or five
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: other guys who can be the go to guy. What
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: a huge difference that is? May I interrupted you, JP,
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: But that's a great point. Yeah, an unbelievable change.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Life comes at you fast in the league.
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: Right, and in a positive way for abody around here.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Let's get one more question in today at Travis D. Holmes.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Who's a surprised player that fans or media may not.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Be currently discussing who could be next season's unheralded star
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: called Carter Bradley, Right, not kidding.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: If I had told you then, it wouldn't be a surprise.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's a great point, Jobs, excellent point.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I mean you could think about the guys who didn't
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: play last year, right, I mean Ran Saw who missed
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: all the last season. They have high hopes for him.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: McLeod was a sixth round pick, he never played last year.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Linebacker edge kind of type.
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: You know, I always struggle with this because I'm never
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: quite sure how much certain fans follow the like if
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: you follow the whole roster and listen to us all
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: the time, then you sort of know about everybody. For
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: the average fan not looking at it. Those guys you know,
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: Rand saw absolutely. You know, would Tooton be a surprise.
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: Tutan could really step up, I know if he's a surprise.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: So maybe like the D line, like Strigo and BJ Green,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: they had they had some spots last year.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: BJ Green has a chance to jump in into rotation
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: because when you finally got his opportunity late in the year,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: he fled was able to have some pass rush pressure,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: some sacks. He has a disruptive nature to his game,
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: and he's different than the other guys that are playing
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: the position with him, so he's a bit of a
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: change up compared to the other guys.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: He certainly can have an impact. I like the quint Allen.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Continuing to do what he does as a special teams
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: contributor and RB three. He's been really good in his role.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: I continue to think that by being productive in the
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: role that he's in, he'll eventually get more opportunities. This
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: team has a lot of young players that are really intriguing,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: and I don't even think we've seen the best of
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: some of the guys that are just being elevated, like
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Monterry Brown the way that he played, But I think
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Jerry and Jones played terrific when he had his opportunity
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Antonio Johnson. Now that Dewey is no longer like him
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: getting an expanded role and fully settling in. So I
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: expect some of these players that might have been part
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: time starters or fill in starters, I expect some of
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: them to really popping major ways next year.
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: I like JP's pick of Ransaw. I mean it feels
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: like he could be a guy who really secondary is
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: in line to take a big jump if Ransaw and
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: Hunter are what they thought. Remember that was a third
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: round pick and a first round pick last year that
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: you really didn't get very much impact in the secondary
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: trafsmates and plays. I'm not saying, but you know at
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: the end of the season wasn't playing. So those are
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: supposed to be first third round pick by second year
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: are supposed to be, especially with its number two overall Bellweather
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: people in a improving young secondary, this wouldn't be a surprise.
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: But the more I look at it this offseason, more
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: I listened things around here, BTJ coming back I don't
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: know if he's going to be the alpha one that
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: people thought that he was destined to be as a rookie.
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: But I do wonder if Okay an off season to
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: step back see what his role is going to be,
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  Speaker 7: the coaches to see what he's going to be. Maybe
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: I'm not big on talking about pressure affecting a player,
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: but maybe for him not having to be that guy
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  Speaker 7: and just being the threat, uh, takes him back to
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: I'm seeing somebody else's ideas.
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  Speaker 6: Somebody said it to me this week. Maybe he goes
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: back to.
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  Speaker 7: LSU where he was not the guy right and is
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: just an impact guy making plays every week.
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  Speaker 2: We saw the last two months of the season. Yeah,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Myers was in finally and then yeah listened up for him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe John is onto something because going.
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: To be not often.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's gonna be a bit of the correction
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: where everyone is going to spend all the offseason talking
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: about Jacobe Myers and Parker Washington and Brian Thomas.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Junior is going to be kind.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Of the guy that has left out of the discussion.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: After the year before we talked about him being the
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: next great, the next one that could join Jimmy and
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: Keenan as an all timer to play the position. He's
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: still somewhere in that mold, and when he started to
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: come on at the end of the year, we saw
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: this offense have a different look to it.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: What happens is when a new coach comes in, he
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: has a system that he wants to play. He has
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: a kind of an imagination and a thought of how
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: he wants to play. Now that if you've seen a
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: full season of Brian Thomas junior what he can do,
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: the good and the bad, you can build a better
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: game plan to really put him in position to make plays.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: I expect him to be big time next year, and
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: I think we'll have the discussion again about him being
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: one of the top wide receivers in the league, even
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: though it may be in more of a wide receiver
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: one slash wide receiver two role as opposed to that
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: dominant number one role that many of us.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Expected him to play.
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, sometimes, JP, when we know we're like anybody, we
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: talk things to death, and especially during the season, you're
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: looking at things up close. And it was easy to
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: focus last year on you know, you know, the early
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: drops and what he wasn't doing.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was pretty standout.
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: But then when you pull back and look over the
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: course of the season, the play against the Raiders where
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: he got hurt, but it was a big play in
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: that game. Do they beat the Texans out here without
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: him making the way you know, hit a couple of
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: drops early in that game, but made the big play,
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: made the big play against Kansas City, made a big
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: play against the colt. When you look at this team's highlights,
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: number seven is running with the ball and catching the
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: ball in some of the big plays, big moments that
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure you know, don't just look at what
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: didn't happen early.
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: There are some plays and.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: So the roster that can do those plays either, right, how.
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: Many other guys make the play against the Texans where
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: you're pulling away with just just talent?
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: So anyway, you have it, last thought here, bucket, Thanks
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  Speaker 2: for the questions.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: By the way, to everyone on ask we appreciate that.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: As always, uh Pro day season, Right, you're gonna think of.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: It now, right, Yeah, we're just beginning to get into
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: some of We've seen a couple of guys go. I
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: think everyone on a national level is waiting for Mendoza
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: to go and that's April first where he'll throw the ball.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Around the yard.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: It's your guys, Mendoza.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: I can't say he's my guys. He's the guy and
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: he's gonna be the first one to go. And it'd
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: be interesting because the comparison like people are really going
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: because unfortunately on our side, like you would love to
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: have like multiple quarterbacks in the conversation because the interest
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: is there. You can create these debates and conversations and
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: those things, but this year's class doesn't have that. Some
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Mendoza is the guy, and now I would say that
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: some of the conversation is probably gone too far to
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: him being great.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: Instellar and superstar.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: And this because when you look at him on the surface,
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: he doesn't have the talent that a Trevor has. He
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: doesn't have a talent that the traditional number one quarterbacks have.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: He does have moxie, he does have big game moments.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: It would be interesting to see what he looks like
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: in the league when all things are kind of the
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: playing fill is level and it comes down to literally
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: your quarterback has to be able to win a shootout
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: against another high end quarterback.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: How does he fare in that? When talent is really
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: a major issue for the top quarterbacks in the league.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: It's not the old oaken bucket game anymore.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: It's just not no no, no, no no. Was it
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: big noon kickoffs? No, we don't do that, like, it
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: won't be that.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: Kennesas States not on the schedule, Indiana States not on
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: the schedule.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: Every week. We're gonna have to strap it up and
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: see what it's like.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: And so we will see if he continued to rise
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: to the occasion like he's done in many of the
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: instances that he did last year.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: The biggest play, like his memory play. Obviously, it will
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: always be the run. Oh my gosh, I hardy do
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: that run.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: Against Yeah, what happened?
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: It might happen once, Right, He's not he's not gonna
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: he's not gonna make it a living taken the shots,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: all right, choking in that game or whatever like that's
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: not going to.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: Be his calling.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but great kid, hope you we doing.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Hope he does well, Bucky, great stuff. As always. We'll
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: do this again next week.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: How about that, man, Let's do it. Let's do it.
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: Should be fun.
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  Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks out of here, John Osier, I'm JP Shaddick.
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  Speaker 3: Are thanks to Joe Fortunado and Brent Reeber, and thanks
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: to you for listening to huddle up with Bucky Brooks